| 00:01.66 | mikebledsoe | Ah, it's been. Ah, it's been a week connected so took last week off and we're doing this a little late this week. So I'm sure we've got plenty of catching up to do. |
| 00:09.20 | Dr_ Placebo | It feels weird to not talk to you for this long it. It's a part of my way of life now I mean now the only constant in my life is the puppy schedule which I am now strictly adhering to. |
| 00:15.30 | mikebledsoe | It's it's strange. Yeah. |
| 00:28.90 | Dr_ Placebo | And. |
| 00:30.30 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, how's that ah I've heard I remember Tim Ferriss was writing about getting a dog and how that was created like a new level of discipline and grounding in his life. Are you experiencing something similar. |
| 00:36.28 | Dr_ Placebo | But. |
| 00:43.14 | Dr_ Placebo | Totally I was even talking to um, an inventor friend of mine at the gym the other day and we were. We're talking about history and fighter pilots and things like that and how a lot of them say that basic training was the worst thing ever. Ah, during it but the best thing ever Afterward long term and I could describe my my whole life as trying to free myself from any obligation and any schedule whatsoever and what's funny is that I. |
| 01:03.38 | mikebledsoe | Wow. |
| 01:19.83 | Dr_ Placebo | I did I was able to do that I basically freed myself of ah, any obligation. Ah, and you know that's when you can get real weird right? But it's ah. |
| 01:31.82 | mikebledsoe | Been there? Yeah, ah. |
| 01:35.80 | Dr_ Placebo | But with puppies if if you try to freewheel like that They'll just destroy your life I mean the life I had already is gone. No question. Whatever I was doing before.. It's like a distant memory.. It's so interesting How this has become an all. Consuming thing So fast. |
| 01:56.85 | mikebledsoe | All right I Want to see these puppies so you got to send me some I'll throw it up in the blog by the way. Um I I'm gonna start having these ah these are gonna be. We're gonna have full blog write ups for the show. |
| 02:02.50 | Dr_ Placebo | I. |
| 02:14.16 | mikebledsoe | Ah, they're gonna be posted I'll have a substack up soon that they're going to be going on and people will get emails with a summary and a little little email about the show whenever it pops out every Monday and then the blog will have a written summary. |
| 02:14.55 | Dr_ Placebo | Rad. |
| 02:29.61 | Dr_ Placebo | Wow, That's pretty exciting. |
| 02:31.32 | mikebledsoe | We should be able to just click to from the emails. So if yeah, if y'all were wondering you know when we were gonna turn pro. it's it's happening you know what's really interesting is I remember with barbell shrugged episode 42 was a pivotal show for us. We'd learned something on that show like and we were trying to improve the craft of podcasting and I remember it was episodes 42 through 45 was us going through this transformation and immediately people. Started messaging us saying I don't know what you guys did but whatever you're doing keep it up the show the show that you know is like episode 42 was the best episode 43 44 or 45 you're like oh this is just the new normal. And yeah, so we're on episode 43 of the Monday morning podcast and ah yeah I feel like we're hitting a ah stride with that as well. |
| 03:38.84 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah I like the vibe that we've cultivated here. It's really serious topics I mean arguably some of the most serious topics imaginable. It's like ah death and kinks. And entrepreneurship and relationships. But the we're pretty chill about it. It's like serious topics with a ah relaxed vibe. |
| 04:02.13 | mikebledsoe | Well I think a lot of people avoid these topics because they don't they whenever it was brought up in the past for them. They didn't have a level of levity that was part of the conversation if we can lighten it up a little bit makes it way easier to consume. So yeah I think. |
| 04:12.27 | Dr_ Placebo | 1 |
| 04:22.20 | mikebledsoe | Enough about enough about us just tooting our horns. Even though we have a lot of horns that too. Ah I think that? Ah yeah I want to fill you on what I did last week you know I got so I got stuck in maui for 2 days and hi now. |
| 04:31.39 | Dr_ Placebo | Lay it on me, you poor you poor dear. |
| 04:41.37 | mikebledsoe | I I remember I remember having it was kind of like the it's like the first time I was ever used by a woman for my body. You know I had this moment of like oh my god you just wanted me for my body I feel so dirty. And about 2 seconds later I was like oh my god she wanted me for my body I was like yes so maui similar similar situation I go oh oh bummer I'm missing my flight I'm like well I'm in Maui I'll go to the beach. |
| 05:16.66 | Dr_ Placebo | So you missed your flight on purpose. Ah. |
| 05:19.40 | mikebledsoe | No, no, absolutely not no I um I spent a week in molakai which is ah ah, an island with a population of 7000 people and 22000 axis year. So I was hunting out there which was just. The most fun I've ever had hunting it. It was so cool. Definitely going back fact I'll probably go back and I'll invite people to come with me as I so I typically do and yeah, you do. |
| 05:47.37 | Dr_ Placebo | So you can get a free ride I know you're game blood. So like he's like I love this thing gosh if I just invite like 10 of my friends I can do it for free and if I invite 20 then I have a new career. |
| 06:00.82 | mikebledsoe | Not not not only not only not only do I get to go for free I might get paid and even if I don't tax write offs baby like I'm going to be applying for my Ffl license like all my guns should be tax write offs. |
| 06:12.45 | Dr_ Placebo | Boom. |
| 06:20.35 | mikebledsoe | Organize a couple of hunts. It's a business to business. |
| 06:23.51 | Dr_ Placebo | And you know what? it's actually ah we're joking about but it's super authentic and that's one of the things I like about you is you? You are that firestarter you get excited about something and then you get other people excited about it I've seen it happen. Many times throughout the years that I've known you so it's. |
| 06:43.10 | mikebledsoe | Um, sometimes I regret it I'm like oh man I Really kind of screwed that person up but and you know who you are. You're listening out there. |
| 06:46.65 | Dr_ Placebo | Well. |
| 06:56.10 | mikebledsoe | Ah, ah. |
| 06:56.40 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah, so so what do you use? Did you ah hunt them with a knife Ninja stars spear I would love to go spear hunting I feel like that would just be super gangster like a pointy stick. |
| 07:02.30 | mikebledsoe | You know, um, are you not not for deer but you can do that for hog I know there's a place in Arkansas basically where you can hunt hog with a spear and they use ah they use pit bulls they put like kevlar jackets on these pits and then basically you chase the hogs down the the dogs get a hold of it and while the dogs are holding it you you you stick the pig so that's. |
| 07:26.61 | Dr_ Placebo | Um, amazing. |
| 07:32.35 | Dr_ Placebo | That's ah, got to be a very visceral feeling if you'll excuse the pun. |
| 07:37.82 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, um, so that's a possibility. But yeah, what what we did was ah I was shooting a rifle. He's a rifle I have a I have ah a savage ah savage one Ten ultralight. |
| 07:43.53 | Dr_ Placebo | 22 I'm guessing |
| 07:53.87 | mikebledsoe | Ah shoots a six five creed more which is a much faster round than what most hunting rifles are firing like it's a newer round There's there's some others that are faster but this is one of those ah speed matters because the amount that that round will drop. Or how much it'll be impacted by wind actually gets reduced a bit so there's fewer adjustments that have to be made when you're shooting really far. But um, exactly exactly. |
| 08:21.93 | Dr_ Placebo | There's less time for it to fall along the same amount of distance if if it's going faster. It's like a laser pointer hardly falls at all. |
| 08:30.82 | mikebledsoe | ah hardly but ah yeah so we're out there hunting I got to got to kill early in the the week spent a lot of time just chilling. You know we were very living very primitive. Um I mean we weren't cooking over campfire. But we it was pretty close. You know a shitting outdoors sleeping on a one inch mat ah doors wide open but ah. |
| 08:54.77 | Dr_ Placebo | Well, it makes 2 of us shitting outdoors at a but mine was a plumbing emergency though. So me and the dogs were ah we were all using the yard. |
| 09:05.12 | mikebledsoe | Ah, ah I'm sure the neighbors love that the it's like whoa. What's that smell. |
| 09:12.83 | Dr_ Placebo | That's the least of their worries with what I do in my backyard. |
| 09:18.24 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so I I finished the hunt have a great time. Got to connect with some guys. Um Ben Greenfield was on the hunt with me in fact, him and his 2 boys and yeah, just a beautiful time and yeah I go to you know I leave. |
| 09:26.93 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah. |
| 09:35.60 | mikebledsoe | Molokai that island I hop on maui to to get on my plane to come home and the flight gets canceled so I find a hotel and then I go back to the airport the next morning and I get on the plane and then they cancel that flight or they delay that flight an hour and they. Delay that flight by an hour about 5 times so I'm just yeah I'm just hanging out the airport you know twiddling my thumbs and ah, finally like they're like oh we'll put you on a flight for tonight. |
| 09:55.21 | Dr_ Placebo | Oh. |
| 10:09.23 | mikebledsoe | So come back in 5 hours I'm like all right I went back to the beach and while I'm at the beach I check my phone and they're like oh your flight for tonight got delayed till tomorrow morning. So I I went from like booking a flight where I was gonna catch a red eye on this nice first class. |
| 10:19.90 | Dr_ Placebo | Wow man. |
| 10:28.28 | mikebledsoe | Seat and I was going to be able to sleep on the way home and I was gonna be home in like 12 hours to it being like a 24 hour you know added an extra stop in there just to get me home and basically showed up home two days late. Ah my fiance was not happy about that. |
| 10:39.59 | Dr_ Placebo | Oof. |
| 10:46.79 | mikebledsoe | And then ah yeah, just just now recovering so basically lost the night of sleep. You know. |
| 10:55.48 | Dr_ Placebo | Sweet. So did you bring back? some meat did you? ah you you brought your own rifle with you. So I'm guessing you checked that and that was no big deal ah is really interesting. |
| 11:05.45 | mikebledsoe | No big deal. Dude after after fly I've never flown with a gun before but after going through the process I realized you could pretty much ship any gun anywhere you want inside the us like they don't They're not really paying that much attention to it honestly. So. |
| 11:21.14 | Dr_ Placebo | I Think it has to do with the volume right? I mean there's just so many packages going every which way but that's got to be an odd feeling because you I'm sure you walk into the airport with a rifle right? like. |
| 11:28.79 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 11:36.11 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah I walk in I check in and then I go I got to go up to like the special baggage place and I go I've got ah I've got ah a gun in here and like oh okay, well here's a special form you know which is basically almost nothing sign it. |
| 11:39.40 | Dr_ Placebo | That's funny. Yeah, yeah. |
| 11:51.79 | mikebledsoe | Walk it over to a special Tsa section. They take it and then I see it when I land and you know when I landed they didn't even um, ah one of the trips that didn't look get my Id when I picked up my rifle I'm like so anyone could have just walked up and grabbed this. It's like there's a very interesting. Thing going on here. |
| 12:11.40 | Dr_ Placebo | I'm so you know I don't know how much that happens but I I only check a bag under duress like I don't check bags when I fly the bag stays with me because I see that I see the carousel with all the bags everywhere. |
| 12:20.25 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I try to do that. |
| 12:28.36 | Dr_ Placebo | And I'm like how do people not just pick up bags all the time like if I was ah a crooked thief. That's the only place I would go I would just go to Airports grab a random bag off the carousel slap ah a funny ah extra tag onto it. So It looks like it's immediately mine keep like a little pink scarf up my sleeve throw throw the pink scarf on the bag people would never think that's that there'd be oh that guy has the same bag as me, but with a pink scarf on it and you see these bags just making laps around there. You're like how. How did they not get stolen all the time. |
| 13:06.64 | mikebledsoe | Well with with my my flight being delayed like it was I Ah, my bags arrived a whole day before me. So I'm like all right I got a rifle that's arriving at airport a whole day before me. Hopefully it's there when I get there and it was It was fun. |
| 13:11.78 | Dr_ Placebo | This is something. |
| 13:19.44 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah, hopefully no one picks it up. |
| 13:23.91 | mikebledsoe | But um, yeah, the meat's being shipped to me they I almost I had to fly in with a cooler because the island is too primitive to carry enough coolers. You're not going to go into like the local hardware store and grab there's 8 of us hunting 8 coolers. It's not going to happen. So um, ah. |
| 13:38.17 | Dr_ Placebo | Right. |
| 13:42.20 | mikebledsoe | I Opted to instead of carrying it back which I could have I just said hey ship it I'll pay for it and thank God I did because that meat would have not done well over two days of just being in a cooler. Um, but on the spot we did eat Raw heart So we made like a heart seviche so it technically wasn't a heart raw because it was. |
| 13:43.36 | Dr_ Placebo | Meaning. |
| 13:52.10 | Dr_ Placebo | If. |
| 14:01.28 | Dr_ Placebo | Acid cooked. |
| 14:02.50 | mikebledsoe | Had some ah yeah, acid cooked a bit but had some raw liver. We killed that week and ah I got to drink amniotic fluid. So one of the deer had been pregnant and we were able to get the amniotic sack. |
| 14:21.46 | mikebledsoe | Puncture a hole in it fill a cup I drink that I tell you what the rest of my day I was I was on point hump and yeah, just running around hump and deer. Ah yeah, it was interesting I mean basically like drinking stem cells. |
| 14:28.75 | Dr_ Placebo | Humping deer. |
| 14:33.70 | Dr_ Placebo | Just as I let you're sprouting hooves. Maybe you'll get antlers wouldn't that be a trip I'm not going to read too much into why? That's the case but that's a cool. |
| 14:40.90 | mikebledsoe | Oh I think I think Ashley would be ended at the antlers. Yeah. |
| 14:52.80 | Dr_ Placebo | Cool thing I bet we can already do that I bet we already have the possibility to do weird shit like that like they grew a human ear on a mouse like twenty fucking years ago so I would not be surprised if they could grow you a set of antlers if you really wanted to. |
| 14:54.10 | mikebledsoe | Ah, so yeah, that was the. |
| 15:11.59 | Dr_ Placebo | Personally I'm waiting for the ah Elephant Trunk ah surgery where I can get an elephant trunk like maybe in the middle of the chest or something how useful would that be super sensitive I could drink out of it hold. |
| 15:22.34 | mikebledsoe | Extremely You just pick off or just shit up I've always wanted an action arm. Yeah. |
| 15:31.90 | Dr_ Placebo | Hold liquids I can sniff with it I mean so crazy strong Never go to the gym again I just have this like absolute unit of a tentacle. |
| 15:44.27 | mikebledsoe | What we want to talk about today. What do we? What do we want to dig into. |
| 15:51.83 | Dr_ Placebo | I mean hunting is a cool thing. Um, gosh I mean with the dogs ah speaking of hunting right? like there are hunting buddies. You were even saying before how they. Throw the kevlar on the dogs for hog hunting which is pretty wild. Um man I I have an appointment with a dog trainer I think next week or something like that and I thought I was doing really badly. As ah as a dog owner I thought I was so behind thought I was just a total disaster apparently I'm like way ahead of the curve talking to this lady though but having 2 dogs that are siblings. Brother sister is way tougher because. |
| 16:25.34 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 16:42.99 | Dr_ Placebo | When you're trying to train them up. They're just you know, biting each other so you get 1 to listen to you and the other one just tackles the one who's listening so it's kind of a funny experience but I could do a whole show on the puppy lessons I've learned so far I started a puppy journal. |
| 16:50.90 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 17:02.92 | Dr_ Placebo | And I also realized that you know dogs don't have a prefrontal cortex but they're basically like people and I think we give ourselves way too much credit for. |
| 17:12.32 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, um. |
| 17:20.73 | Dr_ Placebo | Like how clever we could be versus what creatures of ah routine and reward. We really are so you know me I like to ah synthesize things into a little ah easy to remember stuff. So. |
| 17:27.99 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 17:39.98 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah, demonstration is greater than explanation is a good one that applies to both dogs and people and that's also the um, the heart of the the type of teaching I like to do it's like teaching without attachment. To the result of the student because it's a very heavy burden to I used to feel super obligated um to all my customers, especially all my subscribers because the reality is they absolutely um, like made my life I mean the amount of people who bought books and bought videos. |
| 18:18.90 | Dr_ Placebo | Um, super enriching both ways. So I felt this obligation like I gotta get them to do this thing. You know so I would explain the ever lovingving shit out of it instead of just being the example and doing the demonstration. It's the same with dogs course dogs don't speak English So An explanation is even more stupid but for a human I think um, same kind of idea is way better to set the example than to than to preach. Ah my opinion of course. |
| 18:51.19 | mikebledsoe | Yeah man Ah, just finished a book last week or so wanting is the name of the book and basically just talks about how we model you know by? everyone's just modeling someone else. The desires are modeled. You don't know. |
| 19:05.69 | Dr_ Placebo | That help. |
| 19:09.20 | mikebledsoe | You walk into a bar. You're not you don't want to have a drink but you walk in your friends got a Moscow Mule you're like ah man I need and know I wanted to have one of those but now I do I think that people really can resonate with that that you know there's like I'll have a i. I was at a restaurant a couple weeks ago and for a friend dinner. Everyone ordered drinks I wasn't going to order a drink now I've got a scotch in my hand so you know there's ah no man I can't be the weirdo. Yeah. |
| 19:38.60 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah, baby, you don't want to get kicked out of the tribe dude pour me a drink too. That's that's the that's the toughest 1 right is to be exiled out of the group um in a lot of cultures that was. Way worse than death I mean it meant death but a slow suffering dishonorable death. You know your family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's it's a public shaming that leads to a slow death versus. |
| 19:58.35 | mikebledsoe | Well, you got like death and shame stack together like the you didn't die for a good reason. He he died because you meant you're an asshole. |
| 20:14.80 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah, like a tribal respect and a quick death which you know one's way better. |
| 20:17.97 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, not in battle. Um, yeah, say you you want to without your puppy Journal I also have my journal from the hunt. So I think we just go through our lessons. |
| 20:27.18 | Dr_ Placebo | You know if you give me a yeah Pauseit or you can ah keep everyone entertained and I'll go grab that. |
| 20:34.52 | mikebledsoe | I'll pause it real quick. Go get it so you want to go first. You want me to go first. We got we got puppies and hunting journals. |
| 20:44.19 | Dr_ Placebo | Puppies and hunting Journals I Love it. Let's ah, let's start with hunting. |
| 20:50.53 | mikebledsoe | Right? We'll go with hunting right? So um, we actually did a bit of like that the hunting trips I do with Manzel is is. Is a little different than most people first I'm not going to read it. It's very personal. maybe maybe I'll get the balls to ah, go out. Yeah well I I wrote ah I wrote a letter to the deer I was hunting. |
| 21:14.62 | Dr_ Placebo | Personal like sexual what kind of hunting were you doing out there. |
| 21:23.54 | Dr_ Placebo | Cool. |
| 21:26.55 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, wrote a letter a love letter to the deer I was hunting. Um, um I had I had an insight over the week that I asked myself. |
| 21:29.69 | Dr_ Placebo | What else. |
| 21:46.80 | mikebledsoe | Where am I because everything slowed down I turned my phone off completely off grid and noticed I asked myself where am I seeking stimulation over solitude and you know really noticed around. 2 3 days in how I was really was it. It took me 2 3 days to for the mind to slow down and be on island time because we're hanging out with some people who are from molochi so these are these are like they're not from the city these are. |
| 22:16.71 | Dr_ Placebo | M. |
| 22:23.35 | mikebledsoe | These are Hawaiians that are like true true Hawaiian like they haven't been you know, westernized as much and I mean they have but like you know they they hold that Island time thing. Everything's super chill slow motion. Um, and you know for. |
| 22:25.12 | Dr_ Placebo | They're hunters. |
| 22:36.52 | Dr_ Placebo | Moon. |
| 22:42.77 | mikebledsoe | Ah, guy like myself who's going high speed a lot That's just a. It's a bit jarring but I I really started asking myself. You know where am I where am I yeah seeking stimulation. Yeah, ah yeah, so ah. |
| 22:52.75 | Dr_ Placebo | It's like pulling the e break pulling the emergency break at a hundred. |
| 23:02.38 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I really reflected on that and then I I noticed that I need to remove some things from my schedule. There's there's just too many commitments in the future So started moving some things around and some things that I previously. |
| 23:05.65 | Dr_ Placebo | O. |
| 23:19.62 | mikebledsoe | Couldn't didn't even consider could be removed or moved and I was able to do that. Um, yeah, actually my summit um I'm gonna move the dates of the summit supposed to happen. |
| 23:24.57 | Dr_ Placebo | Really anything. You'd like to share that's pretty cool. |
| 23:36.68 | mikebledsoe | Was supposed to happen next month. But I'm gonna move it to November and you know that's a lot. You know there's people who are looking forward to those specific dates. But I I feel as though it's it's if I wait any longer to make the the announcement but you know it would be a little. Too late for a lot of people. But I think we can do it a month out and be okay. Ah really really got to reflect on how I'm the ah I am the ah result of my ancestors choices. You know whether. |
| 23:58.74 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah. |
| 24:14.87 | mikebledsoe | They be wise choices or or foolish choices every single choice since the beginning of of my lineage has really created this result that I'm right now and I'm I'm the 1 choosing moving forward, but really, um. |
| 24:17.14 | Dr_ Placebo | Oh. |
| 24:33.16 | mikebledsoe | Recognizing that a lot of things that got me to where I am was actually foolish choices I think a lot of times people think about their ancestry. You're like oh there's so much wisdom there I was like there's a bunch of idiots in there too and and what what? what am I What am I making sure. Ah. |
| 24:50.68 | Dr_ Placebo | Um, just ah, just a long line of Horny retards. Um. |
| 24:53.96 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, was like is like okay like I need to be intentional about what I'm carrying forward because not everything. Not everything is Good. You know and how am I am I carrying those those lessons and how do I Harvest The wisdom From. My lineage without carrying on all the the the Foolishness. Ah. |
| 25:20.54 | Dr_ Placebo | Man Ah, you're talking about ah many many multiple generations but even just the immediate ancestors the parents That's ah that's a really big deal is ah you know I worked with so many people coaching wise and you know I don't want to. |
| 25:30.19 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 25:38.43 | Dr_ Placebo | Be, the guy who's laying everybody down on the psychiatrist couch right? but the reality the reality is that a lot of people are working through some sort of ah resentment or ah. Kind of the opposite like a personal resentment because you can't live up to your parents' expectations. It's like 1 or the other right either resent your parents for doing a bad job or you feel bad about yourself for not doing a good enough job. Ah, a lot of the time and. |
| 25:58.19 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so. |
| 26:05.41 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 26:10.77 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah, working through those things but not ah, not judging because whether it's yourself or your ancestors whatever which you can think of them all as the same thing in a certain sense. Um, you know everybody's doing whatever they think is going to get them what they want. Based on how they think and feel all the time like everybody's always doing their best and I remember the first time someone told me that I was dating this lady who is ah pretty significantly older than me and she said everyone's doing their best and I said no, they're not I was like 20 years old |
| 26:48.11 | mikebledsoe | Ah, well here's the thing is like I think I think where it gets I think where people get confused about that is like ah everyone is doing their best. But I think there a lot of times people who say that assume that we're all going the same direction is like. |
| 27:05.19 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah, it's based on how you think and feel at the time is my little caveat based on how you think and feel at the time. Everybody's always doing their best and you know I've talked about it So many times if you're um, getting what they want either love power or attention love power or attention. |
| 27:05.45 | mikebledsoe | Like yeah. |
| 27:13.50 | mikebledsoe | But they're best at what getting what they want? Yeah so not not not for the greater. They're not doing the best they can do for the great Great greater humanity. |
| 27:22.42 | Dr_ Placebo | And if you can't get 1 you'll move on to the next one no no and and actually no one is the only reason people do that is because it feels good to them right? The same reason that a guy sacrifices all his worldly possessions to join a monastery is because he thinks that's a good deal. It's not because he's like a. |
| 27:34.30 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
| 27:42.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 27:45.45 | Dr_ Placebo | Like a noble person. He just thinks that'll get him a better result. |
| 27:50.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, ah all right? So so another another phase of the hunt. We actually had a ah guide take us to some old ruins that were incredibly old I have no idea I probably wasn't paying attention to that part. |
| 27:53.49 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah, on. |
| 28:08.72 | mikebledsoe | Um, one of those things you're like ah we suspect this is five hundred or a thousand years old I I don't know so ah, we went to a site where it was ah there's ah, a lot of evidence and a lot of stories to support the idea that there were human sacrifices happening. At this very specific site. So ah. |
| 28:29.60 | Dr_ Placebo | You got my attention human sacrifice that was the topic I didn't know I wanted to talk about but now that we're here I'm so glad can we do a whole episode on human sacrifice. That's that's such an incredible idea. That's such an incredible idea. |
| 28:43.82 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think we should do that next week. Yeah, next week well what's interesting is ah ah one of the things I started exploring ah while I was there after this is I've um. So I used to conflate or have the collapse distinction of service and sacrifice and I think a lot of people who come from a blue collar background do and so I've spent like 8 years you know I had that realization and started unwinding that. |
| 29:05.86 | Dr_ Placebo | Oh yeah. |
| 29:19.69 | mikebledsoe | And I spent 8 years only trying to be at service but but completely ignoring any possibilities of sacrifice and so I um, so I really did think about it really did cause me to think about sacrifice like ah the final hunt I ah hunted. Ah, multiple times while we were there and the final one was like really the intention was was around the sacrifice piece and I think it was really set up by that whole human sacrifice thing because they talked about how the the people who were being sacrificed. |
| 29:49.94 | Dr_ Placebo | Oh. |
| 29:56.70 | mikebledsoe | Actually saw as an honor to be able to to be sacrificed who knows but um, so we we? yeah I mean that. |
| 30:04.17 | Dr_ Placebo | Right? And and everybody everybody's convinced that it's going to be better to do this that That's the whole idea right? We were just talking about that they're doing it why because they think it'll get them a better result than not doing it. |
| 30:12.37 | mikebledsoe | Totally totally. |
| 30:21.17 | mikebledsoe | 72 version versions. Ah but the so we sat at the site and journaled about ah death. So as as we're sitting at the site of human sacrifice talk about death. Um. |
| 30:23.32 | Dr_ Placebo | A man. |
| 30:38.49 | mikebledsoe | Fast forwarding to my own death and ah where I got was you know spending some time thinking about how much you know will I resist death when it arrives at my doorstep or will I will I welcome it and I think that. |
| 30:56.90 | Dr_ Placebo | That's a tough one I hope I I hope I would but I'll probably be like a 80 year old guy and the angel of death will come by and I'll be like oh please no take my grandson instead. |
| 30:58.00 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 31:11.94 | Dr_ Placebo | I'll just be really cowardly at the end of it all have this like super wise life and then finally face it like anyone but me. |
| 31:12.63 | mikebledsoe | A. |
| 31:19.97 | mikebledsoe | Ah, well like an asshole. Ah yeah I think there's an opportunity now I think I I know there's an opportunity to practice dying and practicing death and I think that's something that. I have experienced through through the use of psychedelics. Ah you know you take a big. |
| 31:37.19 | Dr_ Placebo | I Got a lot out of the digital death that I did that was really interesting. Yeah I I just evaporated one day like my friends were all getting messages from people like where's max is he's dead is he okay and it it was It was cool. |
| 31:44.20 | mikebledsoe | Digital oh that not going on Instagram. |
| 31:57.17 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah, because I was like really attached to um that feedback you know the the audience is like hey we we love you when you do that stuff and so in order to let go of that it it is like a little a little death. |
| 32:06.68 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 32:15.27 | Dr_ Placebo | Basically who yeah, that's it. That's you dude that was you. |
| 32:15.95 | mikebledsoe | Oh yeah, I mean that happened when I left shrug. You know people people were like you know? Yeah I was like they were um yeah they I did not meet their expectations. Created all these expectations over years that I was going to be there every week and I was going to make them laugh and maybe they learn learn something and then I just stopped and people didn't like that. Um, yeah, so practicing death. Um. |
| 32:50.50 | mikebledsoe | And and then what I what I got to is like will I have regrets and what what just came to me the quote came to me in a moment. Are you put on Twitter so it's it's famous. But I said excuses are the seeds of regret and I was thinking about regret. And that's that's what may I see regret as a thing that would cause someone to resist death like oh I'm not done yet I didn't do the thing that I really wanted to do and I think that really is the difference between somebody who's eighty years old and is able to go in peace. And someone who's eighty years old and and dies with suffering and it what hit me was like anything that is an excuse that's that's what I need to be looking for you. Don't want to think am I going to regret this what you want to be thinking is. |
| 33:43.20 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah. |
| 33:48.25 | mikebledsoe | Am I making an excuse about doing this or why am I am I telling myself reasons why this won't work even though it's something I really want to do and I mean knowing the differences between any excuse and a real reason. Ah. |
| 33:52.11 | Dr_ Placebo | His father. |
| 34:06.68 | mikebledsoe | Can be challenging at times. But I think that's something that each individual gets to learn in themselves and and these two things feel different an excuse feels different than you know, using your reason to to make your moves. |
| 34:22.89 | Dr_ Placebo | There's ah I think the difference between excuse and reason is really hard to pinpoint. Actually I think Excuse has a bit of a negative I mean everything. |
| 34:30.40 | mikebledsoe | Why I tell people to be unreasonable throw throw the reasons out the window like be rational, be rational rationalable be rational, but but don't be reasonable. |
| 34:39.89 | Dr_ Placebo | I like it. It's able to be rationed I like rationable that could be fun rational. Ah like okay so. |
| 34:44.17 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, alright Hashtag rationable. It's a thing. |
| 34:54.15 | Dr_ Placebo | Responsibility is ability to respond. It's also a synonym for obligation right? and I think I think that's often how it's used like you list out you list out the responsibilities. Well you list out resp responses like okay, you've had people work for you right. |
| 34:58.36 | mikebledsoe | But I don't think I don't think it is a cinnament for that and I why think I think most people will perceive it that way. |
| 35:13.42 | Dr_ Placebo | And you list out what their responsibilities are like. For example, every day obligations. No okay you fucking whore Obligations accountabilities. |
| 35:13.61 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I call them accountabilities not responsibilities accountabilities. Ah. |
| 35:30.50 | mikebledsoe | Ah. |
| 35:31.48 | Dr_ Placebo | Whatever you want to call it. It's a thing that you got to do and basically in that situation. What happens if it doesn't get done and that's that's when ah, a reason to me is is always an excuse right? because what you're trying to do is you are trying to excuse. Use yourself from the obligation. Ah so to me, it's very different and like you know you've had a lot of people work for you and it's you can always come up with a reason for why you didn't do the thing you said you were going to do right? But it's still. |
| 35:54.70 | mikebledsoe | Um, ah. |
| 36:09.52 | Dr_ Placebo | It's just trying to excuse that accountability right. |
| 36:10.99 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I would say their culture that we we've cultivated with people who work for me. It's been a very like yeah I fucked up and I don't I don't get a lot of excuses from my people which is really refreshing just to. |
| 36:19.19 | Dr_ Placebo | Um, yeah, right? yeah. |
| 36:30.80 | mikebledsoe | Have people own it. Okay I think the problem with making excuses is you're doomed to repeat the you don't you don't feel the gravity. You don't feel the pain of of the impact that you made by by screwing up. |
| 36:47.35 | Dr_ Placebo | Totally the error. |
| 36:49.43 | mikebledsoe | Like the if you make an excuse for your yeah if you make an excuse for your error. You're sidestepping a lesson. But if you say look I simply screwed up I dropped the ball I'm now making a commitment to ah you know. I'm I'm making these specific changes in order to ah do it differently moving forward. Awesome! That's what I want to hear. That's why I want to hear from others. That's what I want to hear from myself. That's that's an attitude of of learning that's humility. |
| 37:17.41 | Dr_ Placebo | Totally no, It's curiosity too right? It's like what can be done differently and it frames it in a in a positive sense so you know right. |
| 37:24.30 | mikebledsoe | And. |
| 37:29.39 | mikebledsoe | We're moving forward instead of dwelling on the past we like we acknowledge that this happened but now let's move forward. |
| 37:35.40 | Dr_ Placebo | Well and that's kind of like the it goes back to the sacrifice or the martyr thing right? you you almost feel like you need to punish yourself a little bit and say how bad you were but it doesn't really do anybody and especially if you're like managing people you you kind of just want to be like man that's like wholly irrelevant. Really doesn't Matter. It's really just about what you can do moving forward differently that will make it so this does not happen in the future right. |
| 37:56.50 | mikebledsoe | I Think ah. |
| 38:01.89 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think I think the pain that we inflict on ourselves through the guilt can can help make the lesson stick like oh I don't want to feel like that again. So. |
| 38:13.70 | Dr_ Placebo | Well, totally man, you know shame can drive a culture in a big way. Um, and I know I've said it on the podcast before but 1 of the cultures that I find really interesting and awesome in a lot of ways is Japan where there's a really strong culture. Of honoring tradition and shame. Also, you know there's a lot less homeless people there because it's kind of a shameful thing and there's also a lot less ah broad creativity of brand new stuff. But ah surplus. Of refining old stuff. You know so they might not invent a rocket ship but when someone else does they'll make that rocket ship better than anything else because they'll have you know 10 generations of rocket scientists running the family business and trying to just. Make those marginal improvements. So I think you know shame can be a great motivator ah certainly I gravitate toward love being a motivator right so joyful expression of this ah weird. Black box algorithm that I am you know take what I got and and let it out there like you know, let it go basically um, kind of like we were talking about um service minus attachment. Basically so you do your thing but you're not. |
| 39:42.47 | mikebledsoe | I. |
| 39:46.70 | Dr_ Placebo | Super attached to the result or or yourself as the procurer of that service. |
| 39:53.71 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, all right moving on moving on in this journal see so I was asked for. We went on a a silent hike for a couple hours and ah. |
| 39:57.90 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah. |
| 40:11.68 | mikebledsoe | We're We're asked the question, the prompt to consider while we walk and then you know Journal when we get back and before we get out the door I started making a list of ways in which I don't show up as my highest self um or you just sit look as how do you show up in a. |
| 40:25.60 | Dr_ Placebo | Oh. |
| 40:31.21 | mikebledsoe | And the ways that you don't prefer or you you end up regretting I guess so these are these are the ways in which I am not showing up as my highest self when I am looking for acceptance by others when I seek stimulation over solitude. That's where I got that. |
| 40:47.62 | Dr_ Placebo | Another more. |
| 40:48.29 | mikebledsoe | Ah, when I fail to communicate my boundaries Well when I lack a hierarchy of values. Ah, and when I'm concerned with not looking bad. |
| 41:01.96 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah, those are good. Um, what was the prompt again. It was just go on this quiet hike and then Journal at the end. |
| 41:08.92 | mikebledsoe | Not yeah that well we were to consider this question in which way am I not showing up as my highest self and then 2 hour yeah Yeah |
| 41:18.94 | Dr_ Placebo | Okay, so now they provided that yeah that was actually the the thing I thought ah before when you're talking about what decisions will I regret. That's like the same. That's the positive way to say that. What? what would your highest self do here like and how how big a gap is there. Can you repeat that question one more time I'm going to write it I'm going to have ah my friends around here do that with me sometime same seems like a cool idea. |
| 41:36.30 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 41:47.73 | mikebledsoe | Cool, um in which way am I not showing up as my highest self. |
| 41:51.94 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah. |
| 41:56.20 | mikebledsoe | Everyone out everyone at home gets to and get a couple chances write it down themselves all right? Everyone you got a homework expect you to fill this out I mean 2 3 hours I like that. |
| 42:05.74 | Dr_ Placebo | How how long was the silent hike. That's pretty nice. |
| 42:15.90 | mikebledsoe | You know what I found when I first got out there is like um actually felt overstimated coming in. Ah and I met several of the guys for the first time and everybody was wanting to talk and I was There was a part of me that was going man I really just wish this was a silent retreat I would like. |
| 42:42.23 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah, oh man, that's so funny to hear from you did. |
| 42:47.20 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, yeah, so I'm I'm actually going to suggest a monzol about ah putting together. A I would love to do like a group hunting trip where the first 2 of three days is in complete silence. Only. Like a noble silence. You know I could ask you to like help me with something or or could you get the fuck out of the way or whatever it is or you know you you can you can state what you need in the moment but I don't yeah yeah. |
| 43:10.25 | Dr_ Placebo | But right. |
| 43:15.72 | Dr_ Placebo | Could wear a little wear a little chalkboards. |
| 43:23.90 | mikebledsoe | But ah, yeah, minimize the just the bullshitting interactions and yeah I would love to do like a two day and I would love to do as strangers I would love to go hunting with people I've never met before spend the first two days silent and then the third day because then I I think it would be really fun to. Because what your mind's gonna do is create all these stories about who this person is you know why? they do the thing they do, you're gonna create all of it and then you're gonna talk to them on a third day and they're gonna break all of it and you're gonna go oh my imagination is nuts. |
| 43:46.16 | Dr_ Placebo | Right? one? ah. |
| 43:58.76 | Dr_ Placebo | Totally well and as it relates to the dog thing. You know they don't speak English Um, they they pick up on your emotions and your postures and I know I've said it before even on the show but I remember you. |
| 44:06.20 | mikebledsoe | You don't say. |
| 44:15.95 | Dr_ Placebo | Said to me like dude maybe ten years ago or something like don't don't listen to the words people are saying just watch how they're being and so I started doing this thing where I mean I was tuning out like I wasn't listening to the words I was a really bad listener but I was just watching people's postures their hand movements. |
| 44:21.48 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 44:35.80 | Dr_ Placebo | And it it was like the it was like the teacher and Charlie Brown it was like wah walk walk walk walk walk walk walk and I was just listening to the musicality of the voice and all these different things and I would imagine if you are meeting people for the first time and you can't. Introduce yourself like that is such a trip because now you're going to be reverting to these primal instincts of like sizing people up, you're going to pay really close attention to people's eyes and I bet most people have never even ah. Come close to a situation like that I don't think I've ever been part of a group where we didn't introduce ourselves for two days like that's almost psychotic actually when you think about it. Everybody's got like guns and no one saying anything and they've never met before. I mean I don't want you to like give up on this dream but it is a sweet recipe for fucking disaster. |
| 45:35.28 | mikebledsoe | You know I'll try it out with guys I know first? Well we'll baby step our way into this find a few guys that are willing to do a silent hunting retreat and we'll go from there all like let's dig in this puppy journal. |
| 45:49.53 | Dr_ Placebo | Um, awesome dude I like the silent hike I like the silent hike thing. That's a cool idea. Well. |
| 45:57.89 | mikebledsoe | I did a whole day I took 2 guys up to I was up in Idaho and was in the sawtooth mountains and we did like ah man it was like a 12 hour maybe maybe thirteen fourteen hours |
| 46:12.50 | Dr_ Placebo | Was that a cattle drive or something. Wow. |
| 46:13.86 | mikebledsoe | Ah, not not just hiking up. The mountain started started at the bottom wearing shorts and it was hot and got up to the snow and basically just popped a little microdose and went fasted So all I brought was water. |
| 46:24.60 | Dr_ Placebo | Um, how cool. |
| 46:30.75 | Dr_ Placebo | Sweet. |
| 46:33.13 | mikebledsoe | And and we did a silent up and I and I ah I was in charge of the hike there was 3 of us I was like we can talk on the way down and and I I started hoofing. Yeah and we started hoofing it down and these guys were just hilarious. |
| 46:44.45 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah I like I like that a lot too that. |
| 46:52.13 | mikebledsoe | Just talking about candy bars like because we were fasted. They weren't used to any of this stuff. So the idea of like hiking silent fast. It was incredibly novel to them. So yeah. |
| 47:05.80 | Dr_ Placebo | It's crazy how much extra calories you're packing on you Even if you're a lean person check out, check out the math sometime like for those who are every you got to fast, you got to try it Out. It's so it's Stupid. You just you just shut up. And you don't eat for a while and it will heal you more than like 99% of the bullshit out there. But. |
| 47:25.66 | mikebledsoe | It is. It is the dude you just give your system a break. All you got to do is give your system a break and it'll fix itself for for most things. |
| 47:37.20 | Dr_ Placebo | Matt Imagine if you just ah had headphones playing music all the time. That's like the equivalent of digesting food all the time and it's it's just a different sense right. |
| 47:53.18 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, 4 |
| 47:54.61 | Dr_ Placebo | You don't give yourself a chance. Um, but some people are afraid they're like oh what'll happen am I going to like break down too much muscle or something like that like that like it'll happen in a fucking week I mean some some sure whatever but like a lean person has like one hundred thousand calories |
| 48:05.22 | mikebledsoe | It's all guy. Yeah dudes are well, there's um, sal. |
| 48:14.41 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 48:14.74 | Dr_ Placebo | Storage on them like ah, a lean, a lean man of average size has like a hundred thousand extra calories conveniently distributed mostly in the center mass of their body. It's it's really good design like we would all be dead if it didn't work this way. |
| 48:33.34 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, it's there for sure. There sal sell from over at mine pump. Um, if you're familiar with the mine pump guys but they do like um, kind of like. |
| 48:36.24 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah. |
| 48:44.74 | Dr_ Placebo | Do they like take ah do they like take pre-workouts and play chess or something. |
| 48:49.55 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well, they're like ah I would I would they're the closest thing the barbell shrugged but more for like the the aesthetic world whereas we were more in like the performance and they're They're really great guys I've been on their show a couple times they've been on mine. They're fun. |
| 48:56.33 | Dr_ Placebo | All. |
| 49:05.75 | mikebledsoe | And 1 of the guys on there I know for a period of time was doing a 72 hour fast once a month for the purpose of building more muscle so there's just like you want to train really hard if you want to grow muscle if you actually starve yourself a protein. There's a super compensation that occurs. So. |
| 49:09.84 | Dr_ Placebo | Oh. |
| 49:24.78 | Dr_ Placebo | It's like occlusion training you cut off the flow and then you release it and the floodgates open same deal. |
| 49:25.55 | mikebledsoe | It's yeah. Yeah, so I I think that for anyone who is concerned about that because I was actually you know for a lot of the hunts that I do we we fast coming in and one of my friends young younger guy. He was like yeah but you know I was just like worry about losing muscle I'm like you know. Ah, 72 hour fast done right? and when you reintroduce food you could actually put more muscle on because of that just watched all the all the gears in his head had to change direction and and ah yeah, but it's true. |
| 50:02.81 | Dr_ Placebo | Plus like what if you did lose a little bit of muscle. You think no one's going to love you after that Jesus Fucking Christ like. |
| 50:13.29 | mikebledsoe | Oh obviously? yeah, well its problem is like I mean you've experienced this is you get praise. It's like oh man, you got a 6 pack. Oh man like get all this praise like well that's must be why people like me. |
| 50:14.84 | Dr_ Placebo | I Mean they won't love you as much. Obviously now you're fucking Scrawny bitch who's going to love you now. |
| 50:27.16 | Dr_ Placebo | I. Totally totally I mean I feel like I've said this so many times but I would lift a really big weight over my head. Let's say and people would be like hey Wow Max We Really like that. |
| 50:33.21 | mikebledsoe | And then you take that away like oh no, one's gonna love me now. |
| 50:47.85 | Dr_ Placebo | Can you lift a bigger one be like fuck. Yeah, are you going to love me more if I do and they're like yeah I'm like great I'll do that. |
| 50:53.75 | mikebledsoe | I mean it's super simple if I put that I think about a year ago I put ah ah a Instagram throwback video of me squatting like I don't know what it was like four 25 for reps or something like that the bars bouncing and shit. |
| 51:04.75 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah, yeah. |
| 51:10.32 | mikebledsoe | And I got like almost a record breaking amount of likes on that you know and I basically like I basically said in the the what's it called the caption I said in the caption of like yeah this was like peak me hating myself. Ah and like. |
| 51:12.43 | Dr_ Placebo | Oh yeah. |
| 51:25.57 | Dr_ Placebo | Totally. |
| 51:29.21 | mikebledsoe | This is all the things I've done a change and all that you know what ended up in some of the comments people actually read the caption but a lot of comments are like yeah man that's big weight I'm like you like let the fuck is going on. Love me. Um. |
| 51:38.64 | Dr_ Placebo | Good job and you're like they love me. They really love Me. You know it reminds me of why Envy is such a bummer ah number one. It's the only of the deadly Sins. You can't have any fun at ah which I've always thought was really cool and the no no lust is great. Gluttony. |
| 51:58.61 | mikebledsoe | Ah, interesting. Yeah, there's not really a payoff for it right? like people use it people use it for motivation. Yeah. |
| 52:08.13 | Dr_ Placebo | Lust gluttony sloth I mean that's that's like a great day as far as what I'm concerned but but like ah yeah, ah today is gluttony day. Ah but like envy day is is the worst and here's why it's extra bad though. |
| 52:13.20 | mikebledsoe | I Set aside days for that. Yeah yeah. |
| 52:26.60 | Dr_ Placebo | So it's funny because it's not that fun but also with envy we're only envying like 1 little bit a fraction of someone's life where we're not envious of the whole thing. Because if we were we would do that same shit ourselves like nobody can see in that video all of the sacrifices you were making and even at the time. Ah maybe you were self-aware enough to be like hey you know I I did this. |
| 52:47.35 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 53:03.40 | Dr_ Placebo | But you you guys probably don't want this in fact, ah you know like my I don't know if this is true. But for me it It was a lot of the time like my body hurts a lot. Um dude like that's probably the. |
| 53:12.00 | mikebledsoe | I was in so much pain. So I had to smoke during that period of time I was smoking weed every night to fall asleep I remember getting in bed and just like my body was hot. My my shoulders were throbbing like like things were throbbing. |
| 53:20.27 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah. |
| 53:26.58 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah. |
| 53:30.88 | mikebledsoe | And I'd be lay in bed and then my my ex wifefe would be next to me and she could just feel me she' like babe go smoke some weed you need to go to sleep so just turn into a nightly I smoked weed every night for for years. |
| 53:35.21 | Dr_ Placebo | E. |
| 53:46.13 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah, totally I mean that's a good option as far as options go but that's what I mean about the the cherry pick Envy is like we're we're envious cherry pickers. We're like oh man look at that guy's house I'm like yeah that guy. |
| 53:47.91 | mikebledsoe | Just for pain relief. |
| 53:56.49 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 54:04.81 | Dr_ Placebo | Went to medical school. He worked 60 hour weeks and then he worked 80 hour weeks and now he finally has this big house and and and you're only going to be envy it like it's it's insane right? It's the same thing with us lifting these heavy weights we're like wow I wish I could do that I'm like no, you don't. |
| 54:15.22 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
| 54:21.36 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 54:24.21 | Dr_ Placebo | A no, you don't because otherwise you'd be doing it and B you don't understand the sacrifices that are being made here. You know it's ah it's hardly fair. But what's funny about that too is ah that's also what inflames people's desires the most like. |
| 54:30.27 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 54:43.12 | Dr_ Placebo | I I was honest, um, like I I was saying like hey man I I train a lot I do ah olympic weightlifting then I do gymnastics then I do a crossfit workout at the end then I go to Jujitsu and then in the evenings I do moyai for 2 hours training six days a week I'm running a business I'm a 23 year old absolute maniac investing all of my time into it and I'm like here's this workout and people are like yeah I want that too but they don't really is my point they just want like. |
| 55:16.38 | mikebledsoe | Now. |
| 55:20.43 | Dr_ Placebo | Like that Mark Twain quote a classic is something that everybody wants to have read but nobody wants to read. He's got some good ones? Yeah, all right. |
| 55:31.21 | mikebledsoe | Accurate. Ah I think he was ah somebody somebody called him the cause I was describing Mark Twain as someone who had never really knew much about him or read about him and and as I as I was describing. |
| 55:39.76 | Dr_ Placebo | And pretty sardonic guy. |
| 55:47.70 | mikebledsoe | They go. Oh he's probably the Joe Rogan of of that time I go you know what? I think you're probably right like that because he was he was funny. He he was he was doing a lot of writing and I yeah was kind of like comedy of that of that era I mean and and. |
| 55:56.21 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah. |
| 56:01.53 | Dr_ Placebo | Um, he was a humorist that's actually the biggest humor award. We have is the Mark Twain ah prize right? There are some good ah acceptance. There are some good acceptance speeches. |
| 56:07.53 | mikebledsoe | Oh I didn't even know that I learned something new about Mark Twain today the more I learned about that guy the more of a fan I become just wild. |
| 56:20.39 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah, because it's it's you know some people who are just absolute um juggernauts comedy-wise but the Mark Twain prize is like a lifetime achievement award for comedy. So you know chappee has 1 Eddie Murphy David Letterman these guys like. |
| 56:30.67 | mikebledsoe | Now. |
| 56:38.20 | Dr_ Placebo | Really? ah, really skilled at the craft of humor and what I say is humor drops the guard like Lindsay has noticed that there's basically no conversation I have with someone where I don't a try really hard to make them laugh and b. Actually make them laugh because I don't I don't want things to be serious like that's the last type of situation I want I want to have things be be lighthearted and and humor is a good way to do that. |
| 57:07.74 | mikebledsoe | We go it. Loosens people up, you have you use humor it loosens up the mind people get up catch people off guard willing to entertain new ideas and this is why comedy is such an important thing in society and before you we had the modern comedians you have. |
| 57:17.42 | Dr_ Placebo | Right. |
| 57:27.46 | mikebledsoe | Want to go back far enough. You got the court Jester and I think a lot of times people think about the court jester as just some fool who knows some you know can juggle and shit. But in ah some traditions you know it's told that. The jester was there to keep the king in check the gesture was the only one that could make fun of the king right? and so it was like yeah and. |
| 57:47.30 | Dr_ Placebo | Right? Compartmentalized you can make fun of me and you're going to do it in a way that I feel okay about it. But but when you're when you're Queen or something is like you you drink too much. |
| 57:56.63 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 58:03.62 | Dr_ Placebo | Or whatever he's like fuck you queen I'm the king god damn it. But when the jester is like hey Mr. King guy can I fill up your wine flask again. Oh it's already empty. What does a pre you know Dadada whatever. |
| 58:17.26 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, yeah, you want to break out the puppy journal. |
| 58:22.30 | Dr_ Placebo | Oh yeah, um I think the the main thing is ah compartmentalizing on on every level like literally you put them into a compartment you have nap time. Compartmentalized you have playtime compartmentalized. You have mealtime compartmentalized like the more you compartmentalize the lives of those puppies the easier it is like they know when we're outside. It's outside time like we've had them two weeks now and we're batting like I would say 98% ah of potties outside in the same place and I feel like that's really good. We've had almost no issues. No accidents inside the house which I'm real pleased about and when it's nap time. They go into the pen and when it's food time they come out and they get their food and then we pick the stuff up and wash it out because otherwise it's going to be crawling with ants. So everything gets compartmentalized. Um shoes can't live on the floor anymore. So that has to be in a compartment has to be out of reach so it's it's forcing me to get way tighter with my organization. So I think that's a positive I mean look once again like you could look at my story from the outside in and think. |
| 59:57.91 | Dr_ Placebo | I'm a certain way but it's just been like a disorganized mess of an insane guy who just happened to be very ambitious and motivated right? So it doesn't just because it like worked doesn't mean I did it well like I didn't you know what? I mean. |
| 01:00:16.59 | mikebledsoe | Ah, that that resonates like so so like how did you do it I'm like don't do it the way I did it. |
| 01:00:16.88 | Dr_ Placebo | It's ah yeah, totally men. Yeah, right? But what's funny is ah like instinctually they they want to do it that way because it's a proven model and you're like no dude do do anything but the way that I did it. |
| 01:00:30.17 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
| 01:00:35.71 | Dr_ Placebo | Do absolutely anything but that but anyway ah compartmentalizing is huge I already mentioned ah demonstration is greater than explanation I think that equation pretty much rings true for just about everything. |
| 01:00:55.28 | Dr_ Placebo | Um, it really reminds you? What's important like the live like we had to take the puppies. Ah 1 of them into the vet once already to the emergency room and and it's a very binary type of thing. Yeah puppy was really. Lethargic ah pissed herself is very scary I was surprised how much I loved these little fuckers already. Ah and it was like Okay, we either relax, chill out and ah, don't worry about it or we take her to the emergency room right now. Because living in limbo of like ooh. It's kind of scary. It's kind of bad is it's almost like ah an almost emergency is the worst fucking thing ever. It's like buying fire insurance. But then worrying every day that your house will burn down and I feel like that's how a lot of people. |
| 01:01:47.69 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 01:01:52.71 | Dr_ Placebo | Live their lives. Um, you know insurance is another thing we could talk about another time but that's not really related to. We did get puppy insurance which is a fucking scam and a half. Ah oh yeah I mean you know it's. |
| 01:02:07.88 | mikebledsoe | I've never heard of that before. |
| 01:02:11.48 | Dr_ Placebo | Just like anything else. It's ah basically a probability and a fee schedule. Whatever and so if you're going to buy puppy Insurance. You probably would also be well- served to buy some extra puppy food so you have like insurance against like a shortage in puppy food supply Anyway, whatever. Not not more insurance. Ah yeah, yeah, that's actually what it is. Yeah, Ah, it's well because I looked at the fee schedule basically and I looked at like what the payment is versus what they will pay. |
| 01:02:31.27 | mikebledsoe | Is like Health insurance for puppies her Why you say it's a you say it's a scam. |
| 01:02:48.97 | mikebledsoe | Right? And like dental insurance. |
| 01:02:50.53 | Dr_ Placebo | For each ailment. It doesn't seem like a very good deal basically to me. Ah, you know they have these maximums for certain things and I didn't think those maximums were very high like I I like to have insurance. |
| 01:03:04.70 | mikebledsoe | Why did you get it. |
| 01:03:09.10 | Dr_ Placebo | Um, because it is pretty inexpensive and I have had a lot of people tell me who have had dogs that it was worth it and um, so like basically it's a gamble essentially like ah having health insurance or not um. |
| 01:03:16.74 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 01:03:27.38 | Dr_ Placebo | You know I I prefer to bet on myself. Basically so um, you know if there's a catastrophe great but everything else just out of pocket. Ah puppy lessons. Ah first one is what you pet you get. |
| 01:03:37.12 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 01:03:45.37 | Dr_ Placebo | Which is ah kind of like a derivative of what is rewarded is repeated So that's a big thing. |
| 01:03:49.95 | mikebledsoe | I was I my mind jumped to Monkey pox. |
| 01:03:53.92 | Dr_ Placebo | What you pet you get? Wow I Don't think they can get Monkey pox. |
| 01:04:03.55 | mikebledsoe | A greyhound got monkey pox in France recently from a couple of men who have sex with men. Um, but ah god it's a real story. Yep yep, well well you know that. |
| 01:04:07.99 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah. |
| 01:04:11.85 | Dr_ Placebo | Is that a real story that you're telling me how do you know this? Wow wild. |
| 01:04:21.70 | mikebledsoe | Monkey pox narrative right now is it's it's mainly just men who have sex with men. They're not saying gay men on on the news anymore. Ah, and then and then they report oh there's there's ah 13 cases of children getting it. |
| 01:04:28.55 | Dr_ Placebo | E. |
| 01:04:40.31 | mikebledsoe | Oh it must not be sexually transmitted. Ah and then and then there's ah, there's a dog in France who's owned by a couple of gay guys and the dog gets it and they say it's concentrated around its mouth and belly. |
| 01:04:41.84 | Dr_ Placebo | Oh boy Well boy. |
| 01:04:59.39 | mikebledsoe | So it must be from ah you know, just close contact skin to skin contact. It's not ah well we didn't ask the gender that the reporter didn't ask the gender of the dog they screwed up. |
| 01:05:04.29 | Dr_ Placebo | Maybe the dog is a homosexual I don't know it's a gay dog I don't know oh God Yeah, you should definitely not fuck your dog. |
| 01:05:20.92 | mikebledsoe | Ah. |
| 01:05:22.41 | Dr_ Placebo | I didn't even need to own dogs before I knew that. |
| 01:05:29.95 | mikebledsoe | All right? all right? all right? Ah what you pat you get not Monkey box. Ok the pumpy principles. |
| 01:05:33.58 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah, so I have I have the puppy principles right? which is ah patience positivity and playfulness and I think patience is really important. It's ah it's a little creature that doesn't know english. It doesn't know the difference between what you wanted to do what you don't want it to do and you you cannot get impatient with a dog or another person you can only get impatient with yourself right? You can get frustrated with yourself that things aren't already a certain way for you. It's like ah. I say there ain't no use wishing words you know oh I wish it were like this well wish in 1 hand pissing the other and see which fills up first. Yeah yeah, so. |
| 01:06:20.50 | mikebledsoe | Ah, another way of looking at it. Well Okay, yeah I like that's that's totally different than what I was thinking. But yeah I love wishing worse there. There's like little rules like that that are really useful like if you wish it were certain way that that's leading to suffering. |
| 01:06:28.14 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah. |
| 01:06:34.92 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah. |
| 01:06:37.82 | mikebledsoe | Another something that's similar to that is people who dwell on unanswerable questions like oh why did he kill himself. Well, you're never going to be able to ask him so like that that yeah yeah, maybe. |
| 01:06:42.60 | Dr_ Placebo | Right? Oh yeah, yeah, maybe after you die I don't know. |
| 01:06:57.40 | mikebledsoe | But but the the dwelling on that question doesn't serve you at all it only causes suffering I say that because that that happened to me but like you know and so it's it's ah the but I started noticing that people that. |
| 01:06:58.96 | Dr_ Placebo | No well man like. |
| 01:07:15.77 | mikebledsoe | I would be coaching someone and they'd get. They'd be getting tripped up on an unanswerable question I go Well you know what? Why did you? You know why did I get fired. They wouldn't tell me that I'm like all right? Well why is it matter you know. If they're not telling you did I Answerable question. |
| 01:07:35.99 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah, it's like why do you want to invest so much of your attention into something that you can't um, change with your actions so you have your locus of control which is monumentally small Despite. Ah, what the conventional wisdom may be like you have so little control. Ah, you don't even have control of your entire body like a lot of that shit is happening automatically so you have a super limited locus of control and yet I don't know some people. |
| 01:07:58.37 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:08:12.58 | Dr_ Placebo | Are like concerned about whether a gay dog in France has monkey pox. For example I mean that's really far outside their ability to control what's going on. So it's funny because like you're sacrificing. Yeah well, you're sacrificing your life for that and if you're doing it for. |
| 01:08:21.50 | mikebledsoe | Ah I watch I watched the news for comedy. |
| 01:08:31.17 | Dr_ Placebo | Entertainment or just idle curiosity like I Love ah listening to learning reading um shit that will maybe never benefit me in any kind of professional way likely something I can't influence but I. Go into it accepting that reality. You know what? I mean that's why I say I'm not into kink shaming like you do whatever you want if you want to hook up your nipples to a car battery. Ah you know, go with God Frankly, but don't expect that that's going to you know, improve your coaching business. Let's say you know. |
| 01:08:51.48 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, absolutely. |
| 01:09:08.10 | mikebledsoe | I I. |
| 01:09:10.40 | Dr_ Placebo | It might it might ah so we have patience number one just like ah I'm being very patient with the erratic flow of our conversation right now then we have positivity because dogs hardly understand not.. It's very related to like what you pet you get, but you can't um so for Positivity ah reinforcement is greater than enforcement and in fact, you can't actually teach a dog anything. You can only reward something they're already doing and positively reinforce that ah like you you can't teach a dog to like like you can demonstrate how to lay down but really all you can do is positively reward the stuff you want. So. Patience Positivity and then Playfulness is ah maybe more of ah a lesson for people than anything else, but dogs are so good at playing. But if they don't play enough if they don't get their energy out if they don't have that outlet. They're going to be a nightmare. Just like a person people are fucking assholes if they don't play and get some physical activity and how could you blame them right? Yeah, you have this creature who arguably has a lot more um needs sociologically than a dog. |
| 01:10:41.26 | Dr_ Placebo | And if they're not getting them. Of course they're not going to act right? They're going to act a fool so you got to? Ah I think it's good to apply these same principles to yourself because people are like puppies. You know, arguably a little more complicated but. Being patient with yourself and others remember you can't be patient with others. It's just patience within your own self right? You draw your boundary or you don't ah positivity so you don't like force yourself but you reinforce the things that you do that work out well and then that playfulness is ah. Really important for connecting with other people connecting with yourself connecting with your body you mentioned before being stuck in your head. Um, play is a really good way to do that gets people out of the ego gets people out of their head and into their body and that's. Super good medicine for the culture we live in so those are the top 3 puppy principles I have um and then I have like the the tools of the trade. Basically so the carrot and the stick in my case are ah and what's funny is. Everybody's got an idea of how you should train dogs Some some people are like you should never say no to a dog you got to feed them a vegan diet. Let them sleep in your bed. Ah and other ones are like you know these prong Callers. You can actually put a shot collar on top of that and then when you dominate them every morning. |
| 01:12:17.70 | Dr_ Placebo | They'll really listen to you and I'm like okay Jesus Christ that seems like pretty extreme on both ends but everybody has an idea of how you should train dogs just the way everybody has an idea about how exercise should work. It's quite hilarious, but I have a spray bottle of water. And then I have a bag of treats. those are the those are the core tools I have I say treats are cheats basically and because it's not ah like you don't want them to to do things just for treats. You know what? I mean you need something to positively reinforce them. But ultimately I want these dogs to be ah individual certainly but an extension of myself so I can take them off leash. They'll listen to what I say they won't run into the street that kind of shit. Um, but treats. Ah, treats in a spray bottle like the carrot and the stick it's like god Giveth in 1 hand and taketh in the other. It's quite hilarious how well it works so the spray bottle is associated with no, they don't like it and it it does get them to stop the behavior which is good and then the other thing. |
| 01:13:16.64 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:13:28.57 | Dr_ Placebo | That is ah related to something you and I talk about a lot is the semantic precision and I know that most people will make this mistake ah with dogs because they make it with themselves is they have far too extensive. |
| 01:13:47.38 | Dr_ Placebo | A vocabulary that they use with people with themselves and certainly with dogs too was just talking to a dog trainer on the phone today and I have ah I have a little command list that I wrote down in order of like the the main ones that I wanted to use. And I was thinking gosh you know if I can get them to to come and sit within like the first week I'll be rock solid and within the first week I could get them to do that and I was thinking man this is um, this is amazing I don't. I don't confuse them with too many different um bits of vocabulary has to be as clear as possible. It's just like computer programming. Basically you know you can say ah like when you reinforce something. Man. It's so funny I'm I'm talking to my brother on the phone last week and we're talking a little while and then just during the conversation I'm like good potty milo good potty and my brother just starts laughing at me. He's like you are so well lame because. |
| 01:14:56.99 | mikebledsoe | Ah, well totally. Oh yeah, you have to. |
| 01:14:58.00 | Dr_ Placebo | I Don't want to miss the opportunity to positively reinforce that Behavior. So Basically anytime they do something you like good blank. Whatever that thing is good. Come good, sit good potty, whatever and by doing that. There's no confusion. Because I know they don't know words but as long as the sound is the same. Ah, That's really, that's really the key. |
| 01:15:22.41 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think is why some people train their dogs in another language say German is that the only time that dog's gonna hear that word is when they're being spoken to So I. |
| 01:15:31.00 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah. |
| 01:15:39.29 | Dr_ Placebo | Um, yeah. |
| 01:15:40.39 | mikebledsoe | I've heard of people doing that and that that would I think that would make the semantic precision even easier. Ah so. |
| 01:15:50.20 | Dr_ Placebo | It's a it's a greater distinction. Probably yeah. |
| 01:15:52.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, because they're not gonna be hearing you say it outside of when you're talking to them. Well cool art. |
| 01:16:02.22 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah, it's been a really good experience. It Definitely ah rocked my world I don't have the same life Anymore. It's really super. Ah, super different I Love it. I Love Them. It's a fun time.. It's a nice. Ah. An aspect of myself I never thought I would entertain actually so it's ah the the newness is really fun. Yeah,, that's awesome. |
| 01:16:28.26 | mikebledsoe | Beautiful. |
| 01:16:36.86 | mikebledsoe | Think it's time to wrap this bad boy up we I think we packed it with a bunch of small lessons I was thinking about our writer putting this together and should be interesting. Ah. |
| 01:16:42.76 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah, well yeah, right? Um, well, you're probably the same way like ah. |
| 01:16:54.98 | Dr_ Placebo | There's that Mitch Hedberg joke where he goes I'm a comedian. So what I do is I sit in a hotel room and if I think of something funny and then I write it down or if the pen is too far away I have to convince myself that what I thought of ain't funny. So it's like. |
| 01:17:07.66 | mikebledsoe | I. |
| 01:17:11.78 | Dr_ Placebo | If you're listening to stuff like this just keep something close by where you can jot down a note because frankly, um if you if you pick up on a little thing like I wrote some stuff down that that you mentioned because I just happen to have a pen handy. |
| 01:17:30.21 | Dr_ Placebo | It can be like 1 line from something you said might be infinitely more valuable than the entire rest of the conversation for a particular individual. So. It's really not about like the amount that you take in It's about the amount. It's about the things that like take you almost like it takes by surprise and it creates this catalyst where you're like whoa I never thought of it that way. That's really, that's really interesting like I'm going to do a silent hike I love the idea of no talking on the way up and talking on the way down. |
| 01:17:51.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:18:08.60 | Dr_ Placebo | I Think there's like a lot of good symbolism I Kind of like that better than just ah, ah like a silent hike and then come back and Journal later I like I like silence on the way up maybe Journal at the top and then ah talking on the way down like I. |
| 01:18:22.92 | mikebledsoe | Now meow. |
| 01:18:25.80 | Dr_ Placebo | That's something I want to set up That's probably the main takeaway I got from today. What about for you. |
| 01:18:33.45 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 01:18:33.90 | Dr_ Placebo | And Monkey Pucks in Gay French dogs. Obviously I mean. |
| 01:18:43.29 | mikebledsoe | Oh what do? what did I get out of today. Um I I mean I think the big thing is I just want a dog now. Yeah I have a house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 01:18:49.95 | Dr_ Placebo | Oh shit. Well you could have one now you have a house you got a lady you're getting married soon I think right is that right? That's pretty cool. Yeah could just go down to the courthouse one day. Also. |
| 01:18:59.89 | mikebledsoe | Sometime next year sometime in 2023 we're trying to make it happen. We'll see there's things happening I've mentioned that to her but we'll see how that goes I think she's a little more attached to the wedding than I am and yeah. |
| 01:19:09.52 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:19:15.83 | Dr_ Placebo | It's what every girl dreams of baby you and me down at the courthouse random person as our witness. |
| 01:19:17.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and well she she will remind me she like she's like you already had 1 of these I haven't like I yeah you right? you're right? Ah I didn't like my first one anyway, that's why I was that's I tell her it's like the first wedding sucked for me too. Anyways, so. |
| 01:19:28.28 | Dr_ Placebo | Sorry yeah. |
| 01:19:35.79 | Dr_ Placebo | Um, probably feels like an obligation for most dudes. |
| 01:19:38.29 | mikebledsoe | Was hungover. Yeah I was also hung over so I was just I was just trying to keep my shit together I was I was a mess my my mid 20 s were a mess. |
| 01:19:45.77 | Dr_ Placebo | I'll do it I mean I'm sure you were just as wise I'm sure you were just as wise back then as you are today. That's why you have no regrets baby you're like I would do nothing different. I'm just as wise as I was when I was 25. |
| 01:20:00.20 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, yeah, oh man? Well my my brain's still catching up so I'm just gonna say I the puppies. Want wanting a puppy myself is my big takeaway. But yeah, all my travel I've had a lot of brain fog. So memory memory is still ah come back online that seems the thing be the thing with my cognition that lags the most with it's like the first thing. |
| 01:20:21.42 | Dr_ Placebo | Ah. |
| 01:20:30.60 | Dr_ Placebo | With with travel with travel specifically. |
| 01:20:31.40 | mikebledsoe | Starts going. Not my focus. Yeah, just just in general anytime my cognition takes a hit. It's usually memory is the the first thing that starts to dwindle. So yeah. |
| 01:20:39.00 | Dr_ Placebo | Interesting. Well do some sudokus or something I don't know fuck. |
| 01:20:47.99 | mikebledsoe | That's probably a good idea. Ah yeah, so make sure go to Max Shank Dot Com if you want some some what he what he selling these days sell all of it up. |
| 01:20:59.95 | Dr_ Placebo | I sell it all man ah dog training dog training. Ah puppy manual on the way I don't I don't It's funny I think it is easier to train a dog than a person because a dog a dog won't come in. |
| 01:21:05.60 | mikebledsoe | Like Shas dogtraining school dot com for sure. |
| 01:21:14.85 | Dr_ Placebo | And say I haven't eaten that much food. But I keep gaining weight like this. |
| 01:21:16.71 | mikebledsoe | Well, you know they don't have 20 years of trauma before they walk in your door. Yeah. |
| 01:21:22.88 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah, you know what's funny too is with that kind of thing. The solution might not be talking it out. It might just be letting it go and playing a little bit. It's very weird. Everybody's a little bit different bullshit. |
| 01:21:35.63 | mikebledsoe | Could be and not really big on talking things out. Ah. |
| 01:21:41.73 | Dr_ Placebo | Yeah, mean either as we fucking continue to talk shit for the forty third week in a row you li motherfucker I love it check out Mike Blood so Mike underscore blood cell. |
| 01:21:43.74 | mikebledsoe | Ah. |
| 01:21:48.80 | mikebledsoe | Ah, that's right, that's right, all right? all right? Ah check in with us next week on Instagram yep, hit me on the Dms. Why have a conversation. |
| 01:22:01.14 | Dr_ Placebo | On Instagram for all kinds of wisdom about hunting and silence and I had fun. It was. It was nice chatting with you homie. Thank you again. Love you take care guys. |
| 01:22:14.99 | mikebledsoe | Love to bite. |
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| 00:00.00 | mikebledsoe | Well I think we should record now then you got 2 Eight week puppies a week old puppies. Yeah, you don't seem much like ah. |
| 00:01.45 | Max Shank | Yeah,, let's do it. Puppies are great. Yeah, ah. I don't seem like a dog owner at all. And in fact, so far I have not been. |
| 00:13.52 | mikebledsoe | No. |
| 00:19.17 | mikebledsoe | What did she do to you. |
| 00:22.92 | Max Shank | Made me an offer I couldn't refuse I guess I mean it's it's funny. Um, we talk about basically on this show. We talk about benevolent selfishness not in so many words, but basically do as good for yourself as you can. Well doing good for other folks and I've never wanted to have the responsibility required but I love dogs. Someone brings a dog into the gym and I'll just play with it the whole time I'll completely ignore the people right? but. I don't know there's a really nice, beautiful connection between beings between a person and a dog and Lindsay my special lady friend. She ah she just fell in love with this dog right. And I watch the two of them together I'm like man I don't want to because Lindsay and I cohabitate so I don't want to stand in the way of that so I was like ah I guess you can have a dog and it can live at the house but outside basically and then. Within 1 trip. Um, it was put on the table like we should take her her brother also so a pair of dogs and that seemed really nice and i. Kind of started to question all the resistance I've had toward that because resistance is a funny thing. It's either the exact right thing and in fact, you should experience a lot of resistance toward stupid risky behavior ah like jumping off cliffs. With no safety equipment. It's not really a reward there. The resistance to do that is is a good thing. It's a safety mechanism but basically ah I thought it would be good to to shake things up a little bit might as well go to instead of one also is. My thanking. |
| 02:32.35 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think it's kind of like it's probably easier have 1 or 2 kids instead of 1 |
| 02:41.43 | Max Shank | It's like ah, an energy balancing thing I feel like um, it's ah, a boy and a girl puppy and of of course I'm a boy and my lady is a girl I shouldn't say of course I mean who knows I could be whatever I want to be but it's like ah it feels like a good. |
| 02:55.73 | mikebledsoe | It's right can make it up anytime you want. |
| 02:59.18 | Max Shank | Yin Yin and Yang balancing so husky pomeranian mutts they're adorable. They're the cutest dogs ever seen. Yeah, one of them is and 1 of them is not. |
| 03:00.66 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I love that what kind dogs are these. |
| 03:08.70 | mikebledsoe | Wow They probably are furry. |
| 03:17.77 | Max Shank | It's they would don't even look like they're from the same litter. |
| 03:18.69 | mikebledsoe | Ah, interesting. Yeah, we're looking to getting a dog I think we're gonna end up getting a pit. We want to get like a big tough dog and like a little tiny. Yeah and then I have like a little tiny Yipper you know. |
| 03:22.26 | Max Shank | 1 1 |
| 03:28.67 | Max Shank | Ah, defense dog. |
| 03:35.27 | Max Shank | like like fuck what's his partner's name like Lenny in of mice and men and then the little shorter smart guy kind of you know I'm talking about ah man it's like ah there are these 2 guy. |
| 03:37.24 | mikebledsoe | So. |
| 03:46.78 | mikebledsoe | Now. |
| 03:54.39 | Max Shank | Someone and Lenny in of mice and men anyone who's read that book and remembers it is laughing right now because Lenny is this ah mentally challenged guy and then there's the who's huge and then there's the much smaller guy who basically. Calls all the shots and Lenny's like I like to pet rabbits and you know that kind of that kind of thing so you got the big. You got the big dog bringing the muscle and then you got the the smart dog. |
| 04:13.33 | mikebledsoe | Right? Yeah, yeah, so. Exactly exactly we'll make it work. Yeah um I had an interesting weekend. The ah my my fiance and I did a little couple's Journey. So. |
| 04:25.00 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 04:38.14 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 04:40.88 | mikebledsoe | We took some special medicine. That's really good at opening the heart and creating more connection. So we had an all day experience together. Ah a variation variation which is. |
| 04:46.47 | Max Shank | Is that mdma. |
| 04:55.35 | Max Shank | Mdma is like hooking up your heart to an electrical socket. So. |
| 05:01.45 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah I took ah a variation of that slightly different. Ah it's it's better for 1 on 1 connections or connection to self if you were to take it in a big group. You would kind of find yourself being a little more hermit versus mdma. |
| 05:11.60 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 05:19.90 | mikebledsoe | Where you're going to want to you know, be friends and make love to everybody? Yeah, so um, it's yeah, but. |
| 05:20.70 | Max Shank | Love everyone? Yeah right? What a horrible drug. What a horrific side effect you, you're gonna want to love everybody ban. It. |
| 05:35.30 | mikebledsoe | Ah, it's really difficult not to love everybody? Um, but it's it's a really good experience for um, you know, even though Ashley and I have had an enormous amount of personal development work and and. Ah, communication work and all these things and and we're probably we're we're definitely in the the point zero one percent of couples on communication and yet even though we're there with sobriety. We use a substance a heart opening substance. And you know we just start digging into areas that we weren't willing to or you know I think I think that these these medicines are so um, things that are really working on the serotonin. You don't really There's there's a level of presence that you're able to stabilize for a period of time there where it allows you to get deep with somebody so beyond just the being really happy and loving There's also a heightened a much heightened level of of presence and so I got to learn a lot. Yeah, a lot of openness. So like. |
| 06:33.91 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 06:42.95 | Max Shank | Sounds like openness to yeah. |
| 06:49.50 | mikebledsoe | Like I'm open to hearing a prefer experience and she's open to sharing I'm open as open to listening. It's ah it's it goes both ways if 1 of us was using it the other unpleasant we wouldn't get nearly as far. Yeah. |
| 06:51.50 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 06:59.15 | Max Shank | Huh unless one of you was super enlightened and able to be very open on command I think that's that's why people say that comedians are modern day philosophers. Because that's ironically like None of the only people we listen to because you use humor and it drops a person's guard so it like opens them up in the here and now so they actually take it in rather than lecturing to someone where I don't know if you tried it, people don't love that they they close up. |
| 07:21.81 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so. |
| 07:29.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah now. |
| 07:34.57 | Max Shank | Real quick and so that's kind of like a bit of a psychedelic experience for someone to ah catch you off guard with the surprise of humor so much that it rocks your balance off center and so you're like whoa and you just fully like take that. That bit of information in and you know this openness and boundaries thing makes me think about ah the openness to to welcome new lives into my home. It. Ah it feels already like a psychedelic. |
| 07:53.64 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 08:06.10 | mikebledsoe | And. |
| 08:12.64 | Max Shank | I mean puppies are drugs Man are you kidding me now I'm like gonna love this thing Yo I'm like fucking rocking and rolling right now. It's insane. The fact that I've even accepted this I mean last week I would have never even considered it every time she asked I was like now I'm like I'm a. |
| 08:12.94 | mikebledsoe | Oh yeah, you're gonna be high for at least six months you got it? yeah. |
| 08:32.27 | Max Shank | I'm a cat I'm a cool cat I'm a fat cat I'm a fucking cat I don't want any other things around I don't want to love anything else. That's why I told her I was like I don't want to love anything else, but it can happen really fast and that openness right? So what you're saying. |
| 08:41.16 | mikebledsoe | A Ah yeah. |
| 08:51.30 | Max Shank | With the medicine which is ah an exogenous substance. Basically that's taking you to that level of openness that is required for let's just call it complete communication where there's no like. Coversion right? oh. |
| 09:10.10 | mikebledsoe | About as complete as you're going to be able to get I mean if there's another more complete way I would love to be you know, be with that. But um, what we so fast. Well here's the thing is like I'm willing to share a lot of things. |
| 09:20.62 | Max Shank | So fast too. |
| 09:28.97 | mikebledsoe | Because I have some of the things I haven't shared up to this point because I'm afraid of how she'll receive. She'll receive it and when I'm having that experience and feeling this way I'm like well if she were to share if I were gonna were to share something that's triggering now's the time to do it because this't gonna be she. |
| 09:33.90 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 09:42.40 | Max Shank | Wait till after you get married man. Forget it. |
| 09:46.60 | mikebledsoe | Is when she's gonna be the most open. |
| 09:51.39 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, so we had a nice time. It created a lot of closeness. Um and gave us like a really clear vision of where we're currently standing and where we want to go together and. |
| 09:52.88 | Max Shank | Ah, just put it off till later. It'll be. It'll be fine. |
| 10:00.45 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 10:08.66 | Max Shank | Whom. |
| 10:10.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it was really really beautiful and I mentioned all this because it brought up because I know you and I like to have create distinction and we like to look at the juxtaposition of 2 things and the contrast of things and her and I both really care about. |
| 10:29.40 | Max Shank | E f. |
| 10:29.94 | mikebledsoe | People right? and we really care about helping people and being of service to people I know you are too and None of the the differentiating factors between how it expresses between her and me which I think expresses similarly amongst a lot of men and women. Is. She tends to really focus in on the individual like how do I how do I help this individual heal or how do I help this individual. You know, live out their best life and all that and whereas I'm much more concerned about humanity as a whole. |
| 10:56.12 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 11:02.77 | Max Shank | Move. |
| 11:08.39 | Max Shank | Totally. |
| 11:08.76 | mikebledsoe | How does how are how a society can benefit from how this person is behaving and so what's that what? well yeah, it's. |
| 11:15.53 | Max Shank | I can relate I can relate. It's a bit grandiose isn't it I can absolutely relate the that desire ah for for like it's so exactly me too. It's a big difference of scope. |
| 11:26.81 | mikebledsoe | Well well, that's where I'm making decisions from it's it's you know like I want to help this person but I'm not going to sacrifice the people around them in order for them to get what they need like they I want them to show up in a way that's good for everybody. Not just for themselves. |
| 11:35.94 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 11:43.53 | Max Shank | Oh interesting I I took it to mean like she enjoys helping people 1 on one and you have this vision of being broadly beneficial to you know None or None or something like that. Oh. |
| 11:58.39 | mikebledsoe | No, no yeah I think that's I think that's also true. Um, but yeah, my my desire to help there I used to have the desire to help millions of people and and I know I've touched maybe close to that I don't know. |
| 12:03.20 | Max Shank | Misunderstood. |
| 12:16.21 | mikebledsoe | Ah, with with some type of message. |
| 12:18.77 | Max Shank | Depends if you count ricochets which I do and then and then like you've probably affected like a billion people right? I count ricochets. Ah. |
| 12:23.10 | mikebledsoe | Totally totally Rick let's count Ricoche's here I'm going to keep that one. Yeah, ah. |
| 12:31.23 | Max Shank | Ah, me too that was good that was like a little easter egg for us today. |
| 12:37.11 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so um, ah so I think that men and this isn't you know there are no absolutes here. But I think men in general probably think about humanity as a whole and and women think about the individual and that's probably why women are. Going to be much more compassionate to a single person having that's down on their luck versus a man who's more like you know we need to clean up the streets. You know we look at the we have ah a homeless population in Austin Texas which is um, improving. It's getting smaller because. |
| 13:12.25 | Max Shank | Wow. |
| 13:15.21 | mikebledsoe | The citizens of Austin got together and voted a little over a year ago to create a camping in the city ban. Um, because years ago the the city decided to make it where people could camp in the city which created. |
| 13:29.17 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 13:32.37 | mikebledsoe | Ah, tent you know several tent cities around town that were just insane and and there's still an issue but you know like we're in the car regularly and these people are on something that's causing them to scream at people that don't exist on the street while holding a sign to try to get. |
| 13:33.78 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 13:51.88 | mikebledsoe | You to hand them money and um, it's you know and she's like well you know can we help this one person and I'm looking around going. How do we clean this shit up because like you know how much how much do you give this person. |
| 14:00.40 | Max Shank | Who. |
| 14:11.52 | mikebledsoe | Over time. How much help do you give them before you say look We just gotta push you to the outskirts. We don't know what to do with you like you are your responsibility and you're causing problems for other people so where is that line where we're sacrificing the whole we're sacrificing you know. |
| 14:18.54 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 14:28.59 | mikebledsoe | Many individuals because 1 individual can't get their shit together and it's um so it's it's very interesting to me. Yeah, it's just an interesting place to be is because I I what I'm seeing is if I care about humanity then I have to. Ah. |
| 14:31.95 | Max Shank | Totally. |
| 14:47.89 | mikebledsoe | The the best place for human the thing that creates the best place for humanity as a whole is when if each each individual is taking on personal responsibility and so. |
| 14:55.80 | Max Shank | You see that as just the best option was that the word used. Yeah. |
| 15:02.36 | mikebledsoe | It's probably optimal like if if humanity as a whole is going to flourish that would only happen under the circumstance of every individual taking personal responsibility. But what we have is a lot of people caring about. |
| 15:12.41 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 15:18.71 | mikebledsoe | You know the feelings of 1 person and trying to get everybody around them to mold to what they desire sacrificing 20 people to make one person happy. It's very interesting. |
| 15:26.49 | Max Shank | Ah, right? Well, it's all about it's all about so our our ah species is the the compassionate caring species now. We're still savage animals like a lizard dinosaur. Ah, baboon right? But we have this super high level of compassion which is the only reason ah and desire for connection emotionally and intellectually which is why people painted on cave walls. And left their handprints. There. There's no reason to do that unless you want another person to see it this desire to like leave your Mark and be part of the tribe and sustain and so that's also very easily leveraged to make absolute bad choices. But ah comparative good choices and it relates back to what we were talking about I think ah, it made me think of ah self versus system and I'm also very much system oriented like I it's hard for me to pick something specific to care about. Because the first thing I do is I see how it's connected to a none other things like like world hunger I always come back to this I'm like how is that even possible world hunger is impossible unless you're fucking with the ecosystem. You know what? I mean. |
| 16:56.77 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 16:58.60 | Max Shank | Like there's the right amount of creatures for a certain area or they overeat and then they under reproduce and it like has this normal recycling effect. So if you look at the big system. Totally so the difference between looking at an individual. |
| 17:07.50 | mikebledsoe | Ah, the the planet is abundant with food. |
| 17:17.80 | Max Shank | Person versus the system I mean look it's not good when someone shoots up a school. Let me be clear I don't think it's good when someone shoots up a school I think it's bad just so there's no confusion here but all but also um, like. |
| 17:28.54 | mikebledsoe | Okay, okay. |
| 17:36.28 | Max Shank | Let's just shut the fuck up like it becomes such a hot button story but it's such a low amount of the whole system right? So now we're like a fraction of a fraction I mean you could do the math like what's I'm not trying to. |
| 17:45.62 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
| 17:54.53 | Max Shank | Make light of the situation right? But it's None out of 350000000 people when you know a none are dying of diarrhea or something like that. It's like or fucking mosquitoes are taken out way more people than depressed teenagers with firearms. And so it's like we really don't it's so rare to see people think in systems because ironically the system itself is just taking people on a wave where they care about None thing at a time but they care about it with their whole heart. And they use none of their brain to think about the system at play here and they're like I care about Ukraine this month I care about George Floyd this month I care about police brutality this month or ooh I'm suddenly interested in Afghanistan again because they told me to be like what. What the fuck man I get it. |
| 18:50.75 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well, it's very and it is very interesting because I I don't know if it's just because I'm paying attention in a different way or things are actually have actually sped up the. The news cycle is perfectly paced to keep people distracted and if you try to stick with I'm like Afghanistan right? The Afghanistan issue went on the Afghanistan issue went on way longer than it was reported to have gone on. Ah. |
| 19:13.33 | Max Shank | Yeah, a trillion miles an hour |
| 19:26.83 | mikebledsoe | News about ukraine is dying off actually a lot of the news is now turning into the Ukrainian troops are are you know hiding in civilians' homes and Civilians are getting killed and they're they're breaking international law. But then the. The journalists are kind of like softening it Up. It's like yeah but they kind of have to and it's like no, that's fucking Illegal. Um. |
| 19:48.42 | Max Shank | Um, there's a huge reason like it's so good to just look through an abbreviated version of the amendments like 1 of the None rules is no fucking troops can stay at your house and like these people were smart. |
| 19:55.77 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and that's a Us thing but that's also an international thing. |
| 20:05.91 | Max Shank | I Mean these people were smart putting these rules together. So there's there's a reason and and you said it here's how it ah shakes out right? yeah. |
| 20:12.90 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, things degrade and when troops starts staying in homes and ah you know their job is to protect the population and now they're just putting the population in danger so that the gangsters in charge can win. And yeah. |
| 20:29.70 | Max Shank | Martial law mob mob rule. |
| 20:31.51 | mikebledsoe | And so yeah, and you know people are just jumping from None thing to another so I'm just pointing out in that news cycle. How like things have to shift in order to keep people distracted and you're right? It keeps them from thinking about the whole system. It keeps them from thinking about. Like why are we always in some type of pickle like the amount of like the fear cycle is just insane and um, you know I don't really? ah. |
| 21:00.27 | Max Shank | Because it pays because it because it pays I mean all of this is related to what you said about people making decisions on an individual basis. I mean it's very possible to run a tight ship as a dictator right? but. It doesn't rebalance as quickly or easily as when we're all just adjusting to the natural rhythms right? You vote with what you pay attention to you vote with your dollars you vote with who you spend time with and if you're always. |
| 21:27.14 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 21:36.45 | mikebledsoe | It's ah it's a slower. It's a slower and smoother evolution for everybody the the centralized decision making can be very herky jerky it can it can create whiplash and often does. |
| 21:42.81 | Max Shank | Yeah, oh no. |
| 21:52.15 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, they get results quickly but how much harm is done in the process when when you're decentralizing the decision making like you're talking about it definitely creates slower reaction times but they're usually safer there. Any Danger is. Isolated to a single area and isn't replicated amongst the entire system and um people have a higher level autonomy which means that people are also experiencing the feedback of their behavior in a much tighter system that allows them to become you know, attain more knowledge and wisdom. |
| 22:13.19 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 22:28.26 | Max Shank | O. |
| 22:29.87 | mikebledsoe | Ah, without being robbed of that by having their decision making diffused over the entire population. |
| 22:35.22 | Max Shank | Yeah I really think of it like a shock absorber. Basically ah, it just has more ah more little shock absorbers rather than just 1 linchpin where one guy is calling all the shots and of course it's always the guy who. |
| 22:38.99 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 22:52.93 | Max Shank | Desperately wants the big chair and the big stick which coincidentally is the only person who should be disqualified from that position entirely It's just like it's good to remember with all this stuff. It. It is just mob rule based on a popularity contest. Like that's crazy. So I think it's um, maximizing attention but minimizing action. So if you have a news cycle. That's so quickly. Um with writers who know what fucking sets your ah heart and balls aflame ah they're going to. Use the software to even readjust and so there always have something that is commanding a tremendous amount of your attention but they'll never um, give you time to do any action about it. So you you have like None attention and zero percent action which is good if you're. Meditating about your unity with the universe but it's pretty shit if you're like watching people get murdered and bombed and. |
| 23:58.29 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well I think this puts us in a very precarious situation. So um I think you and I both agree that that the United States as far as a group of people is probably the most advanced. Um, the plan is I say the largest group that's the most advanced politically government wise. It's a big you know 33350000000 people are all participating in a yeah for this. |
| 24:20.30 | Max Shank | That's such a huge group. Yeah I would say it has the best infrastructure for the most part. |
| 24:33.36 | mikebledsoe | You know, a lot of times people like to compare what's happening like the Netherlands to here or Denmark. It's like it's like those people have like ah like less than 10000000 people in the entire country. We have 330000000 this is a different. It's a different situation. Um. |
| 24:36.20 | Max Shank | Or Norway Norway. Yeah, right. Right. |
| 24:50.70 | mikebledsoe | But you know just just the fact that our country is based on on a philosophical these philosophical concepts of natural law. You know puts us ahead of the curve in a lot of ways. Um the expression of that. Yeah, so. |
| 25:00.79 | Max Shank | And it makes it more difficult. It makes it more difficult because it's a bit of a fractured culture Also like I think one of the things that I think that's why I interrupted you. It's so important I think I shouldn't do it anyway. But it's so important to recognize that. |
| 25:11.63 | mikebledsoe | In. |
| 25:18.98 | Max Shank | In America. The only thing that united us was a desire for freedom to manifest your own destiny now if that includes you know some native genocide then I think we were basically okay with that at the time not now. But at the time that was okay. But so that's the unifying idea but we don't have a culture like let's say Norway or let's say Japan some examples that I think of off the top my head where that there are so many things that are done that are not done because it's the law. Or even because it's profitable. It's done because that's what that culture does and that sort of unity makes things run way more smoothly. |
| 26:00.68 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. Yeah, well and everything comes down to narrative and so what we have in the United States is you know Ah the United States was like the beginning of the decentralization of of power of personal response. Of responsibility. It's a decentralizing of that and it's just continued to decentralize decentralized decentralize and what's happened now is there's been a decentralization of narrative and we have you know human beings for none of years grew up in a. With a lot fewer people a lot fewer interactions. We're exposed to way fewer narratives and variations of that narrative and if you go to somewhere like China or Russia I guarantee you that narrative is pretty fucking tight. There's not a lot of variation from. Whatever the top is telling the bottom and it creates a lot of unity like if everybody were buying into the same narrative. This is what hitler was able to achieve you know at the the early years he unified everybody with a common narrative. |
| 27:02.67 | Max Shank | Ah, right. |
| 27:10.45 | Max Shank | Totally f. |
| 27:19.96 | mikebledsoe | And everything went pretty well until you know he took control of all those people's minds and decided to take it sideways. But this I think a lot of people you know, either consciously or subconsciously are. Upset and I imagine a lot of people in these government agencies with ah a lot of these Intel agencies think that it's their job to create a common narrative to unify everybody even if it is reducing things like freedom of Speech. Um, and we know that by reducing things like freedom of speech that just leads to tyranny. Yeah. |
| 27:58.62 | Max Shank | The ends justify the means the ends justify the means I mean whenever you get someone with a grandiose idea like that Hitler Napoleon whatever it doesn't matter. They will. That's why I think orwell said it was the most dangerous type of guy because they think they're. Ah, justified in what they're doing. They think they're the hero so they'll commit atrocities thinking that they're the good guy and then there's no way to work them out of that idea and they think oh god that's why you know with everything happening I'm i. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if some really clever people. Ah for good reasons were like we need the world to stop working the way it does because if they believe a story that we are destroying ourselves and the world. Um, you know 7000000000 people plus this giant. Ah, ball or disc. You're on depending on what people are thinking now. Ah the turtle show. Yeah, it's half. It's a half dome. That's a great place to visit by the way half down in Yosemite. Beautiful 10 out of 10 recommend but I would. |
| 29:00.32 | mikebledsoe | The turtle show. Um, if. |
| 29:15.37 | Max Shank | I could totally get it especially as a systems thinker if I could push a button right now and murder 1000000 people and it guaranteed utopia for the remaining ah billions I would be an asshole not to do it almost right? So if you have that belief. |
| 29:30.59 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 29:34.92 | Max Shank | You're like I gotta fucking rape and kill these people for for for the greater good and whenever you hear greater good that that should be like if you hear the word greater Good rest assured you're gonna be bleeding from the Asshole soon. Either literally or metaphorically. |
| 29:53.00 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, so it it becomes concerning because I think that even though America and the ideals that it was founded on is create a situation where we have decentralized narratives and. And infinite narratives and variations of those narratives I mean you've got on. Um one side you've got say something like mainstream media and on the other side you have q and on and q and on is putting out None narrative and in ah in a very convincing way the mainstream. Media is putting out ah narratives and neither one of them are correct and both of them are probably just as far from the truth as the other one is and but then you have all these other variations and ah. |
| 30:42.90 | Max Shank | It might be the truth from their perspective by the way like it might be false information but they might believe what they're saying which means they're telling the truth but they're telling a falsehood. Also. |
| 30:50.85 | mikebledsoe | Of course. Yeah well I mean I like to define truth is just what has happened and what is happening and people's ideas or perceptions about the truth are are not the truth. |
| 31:06.59 | Max Shank | I call that a fact good hard hard to have 1 You can't have a complete one either. That's the problem. |
| 31:08.86 | mikebledsoe | So yeah, there you go? Yeah very few people have any facts. Um, yeah. Ah, yeah, so we we we were're in this really strange predicament predicament as americans and what triggered this thought for me was ah the other day China basically cut off like none of. Communication and interaction with the United States and basically said we're not going to participate in our military is communicating and all this stuff. This was ah Friday and I was like oh oh I've been in conflicts before and when one side goes. |
| 31:46.80 | Max Shank | How exciting. |
| 31:55.77 | mikebledsoe | Silent That's bad juju that's like everybody contracts everybody starts preparing everyone starts wondering who's going to strike first. These are these are these are the thoughts that run across people who are in conflict so people in the military. What do you think. |
| 32:07.40 | Max Shank | Winding up. |
| 32:11.66 | Max Shank | Move. |
| 32:14.71 | mikebledsoe | China Goes silent. What do you think the American military does fucking getting ready just relaxing launch hairs. Yeah yeah, so yeah, just give some space I need some space. Ah but I get thinking about it and I go Wow I look at um, ah. |
| 32:16.51 | Max Shank | Probably just just relaxes. No big deal. Yeah, they're fine. Give give them time. Give them some space. |
| 32:34.64 | mikebledsoe | You know if you go to say Ukraine right now like there's not a lot of slobs hanging around Ukraine or Russia there there might be some drunks but there's not a bunch of so weak slobs and you come. |
| 32:46.21 | Max Shank | Well, they're not a lot of weak people because they just can't be I don't know what you mean by slob but I definitely agree that if you're in an environment that doesn't permit it. It's kind of like that idea about world hunger like if you're in a place you're eating if you're in a really harsh dangerous place. You're tough and you're eating or you're dead. It's like when ah when that Ufc guy. Ah Kabib you remember him and I remember I was just watching because he was like trained in the mountains by his dad who was like a fourth generation. Wrestler. |
| 33:05.10 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so like. |
| 33:24.61 | Max Shank | You know and he's just like running up a mountain with boulders when he's like 4 meanwhile you know you could have someone who's raised in Orange County and who's like you know I think I'm going to get into some kickboxing or something like that and they might meet in the same place like in the cage. That's just funny to me. |
| 33:36.98 | mikebledsoe | Right. Yeah, no, no and and depending on the sport you know 3 minute rounds the orange county guy might do all right? but I bet if he took it to 20 minute rounds you know we're in a different. |
| 33:44.26 | Max Shank | They're like not the same creature. Basically. |
| 33:57.22 | Max Shank | Right? Yeah, yeah, it was kind of like ah rocky versus Ivan Draggo also right rocky is just training in the barn with big hunks of wood and the other drawgo in the science lab getting injected with stuff and there's like a. |
| 34:00.73 | mikebledsoe | In a different place. So ah, yeah, yeah. |
| 34:13.37 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, typical russian. |
| 34:17.10 | Max Shank | Super computer on the on the wall. Yeah is awesome. |
| 34:20.54 | mikebledsoe | Um, did you ever watch ah was it icarus the documentary on the russians doping program. It's really good. It's really good. You should check it out. It's on Netflix. So. |
| 34:29.57 | Max Shank | Now sounds amazing. |
| 34:38.22 | mikebledsoe | So I look at this and I and I look around in the United States and I'm I'm thinking I mean you and I both have been trying to help these people you know, get their shit together and there's a lot of people that need to get their shit together or it would would it be better for the rest of us if they got their shit together. |
| 34:56.73 | Max Shank | Who are we talking about now just people. |
| 34:57.23 | mikebledsoe | And um, you know if they did something you know people who think that they're doing their duty by getting a vaccine instead of just taking care of their health. Overall so a lot of fats. There's a lot of slobs getting ah vaccinations instead of just. |
| 35:03.77 | Max Shank | Oh shots fired folks to totally. |
| 35:17.10 | mikebledsoe | Creating some type of interest about their overall health or learning about how their body works. So. |
| 35:20.26 | Max Shank | Yo that that's a shocking funny thing I mean it's tragic also like I never hear I got to get this out though I never hear ads anywhere but I clicked on the radio because I didn't have my like. Ah, phone on Bluetooth It's it when it whatever I'm listening to the radio. |
| 35:38.42 | mikebledsoe | He's poor folks easy listening radio. |
| 35:42.69 | Max Shank | Ah, and I heard like a fucking a fucking jingle like a little jingle song about how you should get your kids this shot and it's like yo what the fuck I'm I'm just I'm listening to this I'm like are you fucking kidding me. Like how how is this it it sounded like I was listening to mother Goose Barney on sesame street talking about how you should you know fucking inject your None ar old with this experiment for for what the fuck and. Bet a lot of people do that and that thought made me really sad that thought made me really sad because I was like what no don't and and I realize that is what's happening. |
| 36:24.30 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 36:31.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, was I think they created laws where like um, serial companies can't make can't target kids with like cartoon advertising. They basically can't advertise sugar cereal to kids anymore. |
| 36:45.97 | Max Shank | Yep. |
| 36:50.65 | mikebledsoe | But they're doing it with pharmaceuticals which is fucking insane. |
| 36:52.98 | Max Shank | Why can we advertise pharmaceutical I mean I'm a hardcore capitalist when I get right down to it. But Jesus Christ like that. But then again, then again you I still have that strong belief that the customer is always right? So it's not too. Ah. Like fight against these companies. It's to illuminate and like help people understand how to apply some logic and I think a big part of it actually relates back to the openness that you and I were talking about you have to be open to not know what's going on to be. To be wrong and you have to be open to the idea that the people who are in charge of both countries and companies may not in fact, be having your best interest at heart. So you got to use your critical thinking a little bit. |
| 37:48.93 | mikebledsoe | It's the only thing you have that's gonna that's gonna help you out like you can't rely on other people. Um well going to like ah I'm with you on the whole like you know both by the us being capitalists and that we believe in. Voluntary interaction between individuals and that means if someone is going to create and make a drug then I have every right to purchase that from them and there's no one has the right to get between the None of us on creating that transaction and here's the thing is with the. Pharmaceutical companies in the us. Yes, ah the us and New Zealand I think are the only None countries that allow pharmaceutical companies to advertise at a citizens through media and the rest of the countries don't but here's the thing is not only have they allowed that to happen. Which I think that people should be able to run an ad for anything they want ah but they have also cornered the market. There's an entire agency from the government called the Dea who harass people who are and kill and and jail people. |
| 38:47.82 | Max Shank | Agreed agreed. |
| 39:01.64 | mikebledsoe | Who are selling drugs that they don't think should be sold and so you have an entire agency that their job is to squash out anything. That's not the pharmaceutical companies. So the pharmaceutical companies have leveraged the violence of government. While also creating deals to be able to market. So. It's a double whammy if you were to say okay, we're going to open up the entire market and everyone can advertise like if I want to advertise my cocaine if I want to advertise whatever it is you know or Lipitor or whatever it is. And that would actually cause people at least should cause people to to activate their critical thinking because now they have to go? Well, what's the difference between these two things and ah. Because right now they think the difference between those 2 things is None is safe and None is not safe and it's not safe or safe based on what somebody else thinks so they don't even think about they don't even think to do the research on it and so there's um so going to. Should people be able to advertise I say yes and we should do away with some people getting preferential treatment from the government that that is giving some people more rights than others. |
| 40:27.39 | Max Shank | Agreed and here's how I'm gonna tie it back to what we were discussing about openness and relationships and your experience. So there's this concept of nonviolent communication right? where you're not um. |
| 40:42.55 | mikebledsoe | In. |
| 40:46.64 | Max Shank | You're not an opponent.. You're a collaborator and in a country or a nation or a state of some kind. Ah they have a system of laws and the law is basically when the violence comes out. So imagine if you're in a relationship. And you have to use the threat of violence to control this party all the time that it's basically like the more you have to use the stick the more fucked you basically are you really shouldn't have to enforce. That many things with violence but ah, nothing is more effective. Certainly imagine if like every discussion you got into with a romantic partner. You were like blah blah blah. |
| 41:34.21 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 41:43.48 | Max Shank | Or I'll fucking beat you Yo I've never hit a woman unless she asked me to however, ah, there's like I would win easy in a in a in a fight. Of some kind if that was possible to just be like hey I say this goes or I will beat you like of course if you don't have any critical thinking. You'll just do that every time but it's pretty asshole move. But that's what law is it's like fucking do this or. |
| 42:17.38 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 42:21.47 | Max Shank | We will Imprison you or kill you or what the fuck ever and the irony is that it's all of the people who hide away from society the most who are voting the people in to control the people that they're. Afraid of because they're a little too free right? ooh that person might do a bad thing. We need more drugs off the streets. They got to stop with those violent video games. It's like fucking busybodies across the board. But ah you, um, you mentioned a good. |
| 42:40.31 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 42:58.20 | Max Shank | Ah, tonic for that realization which is to recognize that there's there's really no such thing as law. It's just consequences right? You do whatever you want? You know you're 100% free to do what you want all the time and there are just consequences right? I find that. |
| 43:14.54 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, like. |
| 43:17.71 | Max Shank | Find that a very ah, comfortable way to live and it's also very accepting too because then you go everyone else is always free to do as they like and talk about the burden. That's off your shoulders because look these people these busybodies These are not happy people. |
| 43:35.29 | mikebledsoe | Now. |
| 43:37.17 | Max Shank | These might be the most ah mentally ah tortured people ever because they have all this attention. They have no action within their own lives and they're just trying to gain control by leveraging the violence. Of a more powerful entity right? So They're not powerful themselves. They're just trying to diminish everyone else because they're always afraid that someone might do something that that's not a happy person. That's that's no way to go. You know we got Avoidance. We got exposure right. |
| 44:08.57 | mikebledsoe | Okay, now. |
| 44:16.98 | Max Shank | Avoidance is a path that only leads you to an underground bunker where you are in complete control of the environment. But also you're completely trapped complete exposure is you just have no discernment so you probably walk off of a cliff or get eaten by a tiger or what the fuck ever. But. Um I think part of what makes the slobs or the weak people is they engage in a little too much avoidance and not enough exposure. |
| 44:44.97 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, agree. |
| 44:51.78 | mikebledsoe | Out of thought that I lost but it'll come now we talked about um, rejection or acceptance tolerant. Yeah. |
| 44:54.27 | Max Shank | Is it about openness and acceptance we talked about that last week right the difference between tolerance. Yeah I mean it's this is a perfect example of that. |
| 45:09.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I. |
| 45:18.82 | Max Shank | Comes come. |
| 45:19.49 | mikebledsoe | This this cuts out the pauses. That's okay, if we pause. |
| 45:25.12 | Max Shank | In my normal life I do way more and longer pauses than on a podcast. |
| 45:33.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 45:38.96 | Max Shank | Also have a different agenda. |
| 45:50.20 | Max Shank | So what did you learn from your experience the one you were telling me about. Yeah. |
| 45:53.33 | mikebledsoe | Which one with my lady. Um I learned a lot I learned that you know we we we we. Did a question prompt which was tell me a story I wrote it up on a chalkboard tell me a story about a time you felt fulfilled and then just kept asking each other about stories of fulfillment and looking for patterns and so. |
| 46:22.51 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 46:28.61 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 46:31.46 | mikebledsoe | Um, was like oh okay I see a pattern of fulfillment for myself I see a pattern of fulfillment for her. It's like okay if we want to experience more fulfillment moving forward. We should probably do things that are similar to what made us fulfilled in the past and. |
| 46:47.95 | Max Shank | A. |
| 46:50.54 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's definitely patterns of that that was that was really cool to dive into you don't have to take anything to answer these questions or journal about that. But um, it does help and so that was really really beautiful. |
| 46:58.46 | Max Shank | A. |
| 47:07.76 | mikebledsoe | None of the things I want to I want to cut back over to is my concern and ah, we're kind of jumping back and forth. But my concern is we have ah an entire country of people who. Can't agree on a single narrative or even 2 or 3 narratives and then you have countries like Russia and China who have that single narrative and even though we may be because society progresses and as the pendulum swings between organization and chaos. |
| 47:42.21 | Max Shank | Boom. |
| 47:44.24 | mikebledsoe | Definitely in a chaotic place and when we're experiencing chaos. It's a great time for someone else who's experiencing organization to take advantage of the people who are in chaos. So that's my one concern is even though we're we are advancing. We are weak during the advancement and um, you know when I heard the news that China Cut Off Communications I was like ah you know I've never seen the country more divided what a what a perfect time to. |
| 48:14.98 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 48:20.50 | mikebledsoe | To pull out more tricks. |
| 48:21.19 | Max Shank | So when you say concern. Ah, that's like ah low grade fear perhaps of something specific ah happening because of that lack of open and ah. |
| 48:40.71 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, absolutely got it? Yeah yeah, yeah. |
| 48:41.80 | Max Shank | Congruent communication. So you're concerned maybe about like war. Yeah yeah, War is not that Cool. You know how earlier I was like really anti-school Shootings I'm also very anti-war. I Know it's a bold stance to take. |
| 49:03.89 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, Wars Funny man. It's just um, people just not getting along people people wanting to rule over ah over other people is what it comes down to. |
| 49:16.50 | Max Shank | You know one of the one of the most consistent thoughts I've had is like you know when you're a kid at least in my experience when you're a kid and you see None people fighting and you know there's no need for them to be fighting. Like you have this perspective where them fighting is retarded. It's stupid. There's no need for it. You know you have this unique perspective where you can see what each of them want but neither of them can see what they want. Like they're just blinded in this like cloud of dust and one of the most prevailing thoughts I've had as an adult has been this. This is just ah, a failure to communicate everybody needs to just settle down like relax. We all want basically the same thing but it's it's so surprising. That's the most lasting idea it just seems so unnecessary for people to speak to each other with such venom and it seems like. All these disagreements are basically manufactured. Um, yeah, it's ah I used to get really sad about that honestly and now I I kind of like that. Ah, that quote that ends up. Where you try to change your nation realize you can't try to change your city realize you can't try to change your family realize you can't try to change yourself and you're like man if only I'd done this sooner. It would have had that ricochet effect on out and ah. Mentioned in the past how the the distance between your zone of awareness and zone of control is like your feeling of powerlessness. So if you're aware of like a thousand problems globally which is like I don't know whatever. Twenty Thousand Miles Pi are cubed or squared or some shit like that I don't fucking know I don't I don't remember surface area of a sphere right now but your control area is very small. It's like five feet versus you know. None of Square Miles |
| 51:45.30 | mikebledsoe | Totally I've um, I've been experiencing like the the most grounded groundedness I've had in my entire life the last year and a half I just get more and more grounded and one of the results of getting more and more grounded is. Getting much more in touch with that reality of the only thing I can change is me and ah mikeness. Yeah, yeah, well because before I was had some grandiose thoughts about how I could make a. |
| 52:04.85 | Max Shank | Of this. |
| 52:13.78 | Max Shank | It's an it's a type of accept acceptance I think. |
| 52:23.55 | mikebledsoe | You know, a really big impact by you know, being really influential and and you know having a lot of followers or whatever. Yeah, like I know what to do. |
| 52:30.88 | Max Shank | I'll fix it I'll fix it. That was what I thought I'll I'll fix it and then ah I'm like I'm like just like those ah fucking grandiose big chair guys. It's like the same thing I Just don't want a big chair I'll fix it I'll fix it. |
| 52:40.86 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, just do what I tell you to do ah so fuck your ideas. So you know I um I just got become less and less concerned. |
| 52:47.54 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 53:00.12 | mikebledsoe | I keep up with what's going on I don't let it dominate my my thinking you know it's 1 thing to have awareness or to learn of what's going on around the world. It's another thing that dwell on it. Um, and I become much more focused on what I can impact immediately like you know how. |
| 53:03.76 | Max Shank | So. |
| 53:20.20 | mikebledsoe | Comfortable Can I make my home. That's a sanctuary instead of you know, trying to worry about like I don't care if I drive a fancy car I need where I spend the most time at my home people come to my home people come to my home and they go Wow this. |
| 53:22.79 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 53:29.29 | Max Shank | Right? You got different values. |
| 53:39.45 | mikebledsoe | Place is really nice and comfortable. It's not It's not a big expensive home. It's ah it's a moderate home. It's a middle class home. Ah, but it's not but we've created a vibe inside that just. Very welcoming and peaceful and calm and so Ashley and I when we go out in the world. We we have this calmness and peacefulness about us and people they want to know how we do things and you know we get really strong reflections about us. And the thing is neither one of us are going out to try to teach people how to be much I mean this is about the extent of it right? Ah put a band man. Yeah there you go. |
| 54:21.53 | Max Shank | What is a good man but a bad man's Teacher. What is a bad man but a good man's job. |
| 54:32.36 | mikebledsoe | Ah, so you know the the thing that I keep circling ah since becoming more grounded is really the idea of leading. By example, if I'm not if I'm not happy with how other people are behaving then who I want. |
| 54:45.84 | Max Shank | 5 |
| 54:51.40 | mikebledsoe | Everyone else to be I have not fully embodied myself in a way that it's noticeable or I haven't done it long enough or repeated the behavior enough for people to take note or the benefits of taking those behaviors I haven't been doing it enough in order for people to take note but I'll tell you. That the majority of benefit that I that I think I have helped people achieve has been through modeling and because people learn through modeling they create their desires are created because of modeling and and. |
| 55:25.57 | Max Shank | Absolutely. |
| 55:29.40 | mikebledsoe | For me to think that I said something in particular to get somebody to a specific goal is that is incorrect. You know if I if I wasn't living my life a certain way. People wouldn't give a shit about the words that I was using and in fact, they're probably modeling. |
| 55:38.91 | Max Shank | On. |
| 55:48.47 | mikebledsoe | A lot of my behavior but are giving credit to the words that I use because people people want. That's the logical things like oh I heard this thing and then I put it in place and now that's logical. But I think. |
| 55:55.16 | Max Shank | Ah, well, you're. |
| 56:03.60 | Max Shank | I fixed it I fixed it and what it's what's funny is by being a model you unburden yourself of the responsibility of getting them to behave a certain way and you're not burdening them with a fucking command. |
| 56:05.74 | mikebledsoe | Most who are learning through modeling. |
| 56:17.29 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 56:23.29 | Max Shank | So You are completely unburdened. Ah because you're not trying to force them to be a certain way or manipulate them to be a certain way. People think the word manipulate has a lot of a negative connotation and it does but really, that's all we do. Is we manipulate the world and people for our benefit and sometimes for others. |
| 56:41.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think well I had a conversation with a woman yesterday about this. She was talking about manipulation I was like well I like to create the distinction between influence and manipulation and ah in it with influence I am I am. |
| 56:50.23 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 57:00.75 | mikebledsoe | Making somebody else more informed about something so that they can make a better choice for themselves. Manipulation is I'm likely trying to make them less informed or confuse them in a way so that they'll do do the behavior I'll do not because they have ah a greater understanding. |
| 57:04.25 | Max Shank | The. |
| 57:20.37 | mikebledsoe | So that's yeah, so it's like instead of thinking about it as just like a spectrum of manipulation and say no manipulation is this thing and influences this thing they're very different in my mind So when I'm approaching people. The question I have to ask myself is you know. |
| 57:20.83 | Max Shank | It's like fraud. Yeah. |
| 57:31.10 | Max Shank | Yeah, yeah. |
| 57:38.41 | mikebledsoe | If you're if you're going out and you're going to talk to a girl are you are you practicing influence on the date or are you manipulating And yeah, that wasn't for you that wasn't for you. Um. |
| 57:45.79 | Max Shank | Manipulating for sure I mean wait wait that was oh that was a rhetorical question. Got it? Yeah oh got it I mean I. |
| 57:53.95 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, but I mean this happens a lot and like people talk about marketing and they're like they're like oh marketing is so manipulative I'm like well what kind of marketing are you doing? Are you. |
| 58:04.31 | Max Shank | That's why I bring up machiavelli do the ends justify the means if you believe in a product this is an easy argument to make if you believe in a product you should be willing to say anything to sell as many as possible. That's one way of looking at it so you could totally. Ah. Forgive psychologically ah any kind of what might be considered a dirty tactic but I want to ah touch on something None things actually before we move on 1 one of the things that is taken away one of the burdens that's relieved by just being the example. Is. You're not lusting after your own acceptance I'm gonna say that again. So you're not lusting after your own acceptance because what you're doing is you are looking to have someone say you fixed it or you did it. Or whatever. So instead of lusting after that now that desire's gone and if you look at it from a zen buddhist ah framework that desire being gone is going to bring you a lot more peace and a lot more clarity and a lot more flow. You're not going to feel that burden like. Oh I got to I got to like remind myself that I'm good by helping this guy and then another thing you said, um, that was related to being the example and you said it to me like ah. |
| 59:23.62 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 59:36.73 | Max Shank | It was at your house out here. It was a long time ago. It was like maybe five to seven years ago and yeah, he's been enlightened for a long time. Ah you you it was just about it just was one of those times where I was very receptive and I listened and i. |
| 59:43.17 | mikebledsoe | I've been enlightened for a while. All. |
| 59:53.98 | Max Shank | Started putting it into practice. A lot was I stopped listening as much to what people were saying and more focused on how they were being and now what I'll do sometimes is I'll I'll just try to listen to the noise that someone's making and look at their posture. |
| 01:00:10.37 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:00:11.72 | Max Shank | And I'll try to look beyond the words and see do they go up and down and up and down with their talk and ah du and is their music ah did and you see how the how that flow is kind of coming out. Ah it's It's really interesting to see how people are being. Ah. Because I think that's actually a lot more honest than what that because people are very tricky like have you ever Seen. Ah a really good actor fucking say any word combination and their expression on their face will trick the shit out of me my god. |
| 01:00:46.28 | mikebledsoe | That it's insane. Insane. Oh yeah, the the tonality thing is interesting. So your time about body language. Um, you know if somebody has really poor posture hunched over. Um I start I start. |
| 01:00:49.99 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 01:00:56.98 | Max Shank | And. |
| 01:01:04.88 | mikebledsoe | Noticing when they're more hunched or more open which may be rare that they're open. But oh wow they they don't feel safe or they have a history of not feeling safe and they just haven't had the physical restoration of their body. Um. |
| 01:01:06.16 | Max Shank | O m. |
| 01:01:14.94 | Max Shank | The. |
| 01:01:23.46 | mikebledsoe | It' not like like whatever is happening energetically takes a lot longer to manifest physically. And yeah me too. |
| 01:01:29.28 | Max Shank | I Used to cross my arms all the time all the time all the time and I would do that thing where you flex your knuckles into your arms from the from the back so that ah your biceps look a little bigger and your little forearm. Extensor muscles look bigger so you get these? Ah, It's like the standard personal trainer photo and I look back at I look back at all these photos I took and every single one I've got like fucking sunglasses ah under armor ah shirt that's skin tight. And my arms are crossed and I'm like that guy doesn't want anyone to know who he is that guy So now I'm super sensitive to it I notice when I see people cross their arms I think it's a really funky posture the the arm crop. Yeah. |
| 01:02:10.62 | mikebledsoe | Be yeah, exactly just. |
| 01:02:23.65 | mikebledsoe | We're putting the hands in pockets too. |
| 01:02:27.00 | Max Shank | What what do you do with your hands though. You can't just be like Ricky Bobby like I don't know what to do with them. |
| 01:02:31.45 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's something about and there's a military thing. There's no hands in the pockets. Um, and what I noticed from years of not hanging out with hands in my pockets is. There's. |
| 01:02:37.26 | Max Shank | Yeah, yeah, 1 |
| 01:02:47.69 | mikebledsoe | Hands in the pockets is a really safe place to put your hands when you're insecure about like having a more open posture. It's like it's like halfway open and yeah it is kind of strange sometimes I I have to find things to do with my hands every once in a while I'll let myself put my hands into my pocket. |
| 01:02:56.22 | Max Shank | Yeah, interesting. |
| 01:03:06.46 | mikebledsoe | Only when I know that um you know it's not coming from a place of insecurity. It's like I'm hanging out my friends I just feel like putting my hands in my pocket I'm gonna fucking do it but it it is something that I was I overdid until I couldn't do it anymore and then that's when I recognized oh this is something that. |
| 01:03:10.34 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 01:03:20.31 | Max Shank | What. |
| 01:03:26.63 | mikebledsoe | It's a safety you know it's my safety blanket to put my hands in my pockets and kind of hard to be ready for shit when your hands in the pockets when you want to you want to be running down the road. |
| 01:03:30.20 | Max Shank | That kind of curiosity Impossible I mean unless you got something good in there then it's even better. |
| 01:03:41.66 | mikebledsoe | Running down the road with your hands in your pockets. That's that's when people knock their teeth out. No. |
| 01:03:42.17 | Max Shank | Oh yeah, yeah, that's not good, but if you got something interesting in your pocket and could be a great spot. Hey now. Um, yeah I think. |
| 01:03:50.27 | mikebledsoe | I've always got some interesting in there. So. |
| 01:03:58.80 | Max Shank | The curiosity we're talking about about posture I mean look it's no, It's no mystery that you and I are are nerds about things like this about communication about the way the body moves about integrating the body mind heart The rest of them Chakras and so. I Think that's one of those things that can accelerate that openness if you so curiosity is such a ah powerful force of moving into the Unknown. It's the difference between the unknown being scary and the unknown being exciting. And interesting. It's like an a curious is an opportunity forward right? It's the exact opposite of fear right? which is like ah a threat an unknown threat oncoming versus an unknown opportunity oncoming. And we're talking about using different medicines to do that. The other option is to be extremely invested into what you and I are talking about. So I Think that's one of the things that is attractive about using different medicines like I'm. I'm ah experimenting with some puppy medicine right now I have a feeling it's going to ah increase openness probably patience Positivity Ah love Perhaps I I don't know yet. It'll be really interesting to see how that. Changes my paradigm but I think that's really the the pull of those different medicines psychedelics. Whatever cocktail you and your witch doctor can concoct um, is because it can. Increase your connection and alleviate burdens very quickly. It's like you can either get high by doing breathing exercises and going for a run or you can get high by smoking some cannabis or crack or something like that. You know there are a lot of there are a lot of ways to do it. Sometimes you just have something That's a little more push button so to speak and short term. Well but the effects are long term a lot of the time I mean the walls aren't melting forever. |
| 01:06:12.79 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and short term. Totally totally if done well now that would be terrible. |
| 01:06:26.20 | Max Shank | Thankfully, but but you get the you get the alleviation of some of that that guard that dropping of the guard and openness is what allows you to. See some of the filters that you've put on kind of coming back to the stories like I feel sad when I talk to people and I see them hardcore into one narrative or the other because you know, um, there's basically nothing you can say that will resolve that and I I Think. Can pick up on queues and I know a lot of weird facts. But ah once someone's locked into a narrative like that. It's very tricky to get out unless they themselves are getting curious and then you have a chance to take away some of those layers but I think sometimes. |
| 01:07:15.54 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:07:22.89 | Max Shank | Using those substances can sort of accelerate that process. |
| 01:07:25.50 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, it causes a can cause a pattern interrupt I think most people that they're in a pattern that whatever narrative they're in is a pattern of thinking feeling behaving and most people no matter how much. Information may be counter to you know this being a good idea or or whatever they can't seem to break it until there's a pattern interrupt you know, somebody somebody ends up with heart disease or cancer or something like that like wakes some of its pattern interrupt is like oh I can't keep eating the banas. |
| 01:08:00.40 | Max Shank | Car accident for my mom car accident changed her life. She wasn't injured the car was totaled but ah the whole trajectory of her life changed and she was in her fifty s I mean she was already like a fully baked human so to speak. |
| 01:08:04.25 | mikebledsoe | Car accident. Yeah. |
| 01:08:12.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, so as it it. |
| 01:08:19.90 | Max Shank | So anything that changes. It's kind of like the only absolute is relativity so you and I our stories are just in relation to everything that we understand so we're like part of a ah net and um so I think we're like None musical note. And when you get together with ah lsd you strike a different chord than if you do heroin and if you hang out with puppies or if you drink coffee like I I drink coffee basically daily um some sometimes I'll skip for like a week or something like that. But I've been pretty. Hot on coffee for at least like six months now and I I enjoy it It's just a different ah chord. You know I'm a note coffee's a note boom play them at the same time. That's this different type of resonance and everybody needs and likes different things like these two puppies. Different personalities. None person should have coffee None person should probably do a microdose mushrooms or something like that. There's not a one size fits all for everybody which is also why those ah dictatorships inevitably piss off so many people. Because not everybody wants the same sized solution right. |
| 01:09:36.58 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:09:40.82 | Max Shank | Who So here's what I'm thinking I think we want to do a show about ah all the stuff that we like and I want to do a show called unfair advantages. |
| 01:09:42.14 | mikebledsoe | And we should wrap this up. |
| 01:09:54.23 | mikebledsoe | I Think we were talking about that last show and I forgot that unfair advantages and what else. |
| 01:09:58.97 | Max Shank | I'm all about it it like man. It's totally unfair. Ah just a show about stuff We like we. We just only talk about stuff we like I would love it. |
| 01:10:07.89 | mikebledsoe | Ah I think people would actually love that I think that would be. There's so many things that I love that I want to share with people that sometimes I'll share something I love and they're like oh man. Um, and I realized I wish I could have gotten this information to this person sooner or so many things. |
| 01:10:16.40 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 01:10:24.38 | Max Shank | Totally yeah, all right? Yeah so I think that'll be good ah man that was fun. What are what's what's our take home message today really curiosity openness. |
| 01:10:27.24 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, all right I'll make a list I Like that idea. |
| 01:10:39.80 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah I think there's ah, there's a thread of communication and violence and the better we can communicate the the less we may experience violence there was a term that you were discussing which is. You know, releasing the burden and the phrase that came to my mind was unburdened leadership so leading by example is an unburdened way of being a leader and I think I'll name a show that and so so how do you be a leader without feeling all that burden. |
| 01:11:04.10 | Max Shank | Um, who I like it right. |
| 01:11:18.85 | mikebledsoe | Just lead by example and mind your own business seems pretty pretty easy. So those are my big takeaways from today's show |
| 01:11:20.55 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 01:11:26.73 | Max Shank | Yeah, and get curious about why you might be holding onto the rein so tight like like follow it down with the five Y's like why am I trying to control so hard on this ah closedness it was something I examined myself with dogs. Um. |
| 01:11:40.29 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, yeah. |
| 01:11:46.69 | Max Shank | Like I had I had always resisted it super heavy and I was like well why? what? What am I really afraid of here and is ah it's good curiosity and unburdened leadership I think are yeah, that's good if you can do that Honestly, you'd be. |
| 01:11:53.82 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:12:03.77 | Max Shank | Way better off and then Mike and I can feel good because we will have helped you and the ricochets will carry em off through our entire society and then we will finally be good. So thank you guys for listening. Love you guys! Love you Mike bye. |
| 01:12:23.35 | mikebledsoe | Legit. Love you Max Talk later. |
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| 00:00.33 | mikebledsoe | Yes, I was just writing I was doing my books waiting on that max here and. |
| 00:01.00 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 00:07.77 | Max Shank | We were just saying. It's nothing like a ah novel. It's nothing like a ah book. But that's how it all really began was we wanted to write down that you owe me 10 goats and I owe you. My daughter's hand in marriage when she comes of age or something like that right? it's it's Contracts. It's contracts. Basically I O use. |
| 00:25.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I remember. Ah yeah, it's a recording of of transactions so recording of contracts agreements the I remember um watching my. |
| 00:42.30 | Max Shank | It's like the word record you record a record. |
| 00:44.30 | mikebledsoe | yeah yeah I remember watching my dad do the books for his business back in like you know the 80 s and 90 s you know I wasn't I wasn't aware enough to know what he was doing until probably the early 90 s but ah. |
| 00:49.82 | Max Shank | Yeah. E. |
| 01:03.41 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I just remember him like having an actual book of things and and writing in the ledger where the money went and this not I Just remember like that was the most frustrated I ever saw him like. |
| 01:11.51 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 01:18.76 | Max Shank | Is. |
| 01:20.69 | mikebledsoe | Like the guy. The guy's a craftsman right? He he was a craftsman and so like ah he was a builder like he did a lot of ah home improvements but also built these really amazing cabins from scratch and yeah. |
| 01:24.29 | Max Shank | What craft. |
| 01:36.18 | Max Shank | No shit building a cabin from scratch is like a really cool thing I think now that's what I think is cool now I think that is cool now I used to think lifting something really really big over your head was super cool. |
| 01:39.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so he was. |
| 01:43.13 | mikebledsoe | Totally. |
| 01:52.25 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, yeah. |
| 01:55.28 | Max Shank | And it still kind of is but now making your own cabin from scratch that is fricking cool. |
| 02:01.27 | mikebledsoe | Well, it's interesting because you know he was so gifted at that and then because he wanted to do things the way he wanted to do them meant that he was going to own his own business which then came with all these other ah requirements. Ah, for. |
| 02:18.27 | Max Shank | Who. |
| 02:20.53 | mikebledsoe | To do that because and really the only reason is required is because you have to pay taxes. Other than that you you wouldn't actually have to maintain books. It'd probably be beneficial to maintain books to maintain a ah record of of your transactions and all that stuff. |
| 02:31.97 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 02:37.60 | mikebledsoe | But I think a guy like that would have done better just to have been winging it the whole time and put more of his attention into what he was actually skilled at. |
| 02:45.24 | Max Shank | Man that speaks so much to me because we could talk about this probably all day right? where these different personality types crazy thrive in one way and then really struggle in another way and it's like how do you. Compound and multiply your zone of Genius while minimizing the damage of one of these let's just call it a ah deficit or or just like a ah simple lack of desire to do you know back in the day if if you went out on the hunt. |
| 03:15.51 | mikebledsoe | Um, what. |
| 03:22.60 | Max Shank | Crafting is like a version of hunting or gathering kind of you can make that that leap it's about energy transformation and generation. Ah, there was no need to really keep a record because you either came home with food or you did not. There's no like little book. Oh I can. |
| 03:35.72 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
| 03:41.83 | Max Shank | Didn't get food again today. It's like no, we all know. |
| 03:43.47 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think the only like thinking ahead that people had to do early on was if you lived up North you had to think about the seasons changing but aside from that you know if the the closer you move to the equator the less. |
| 03:53.97 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 04:01.48 | mikebledsoe | You really have to keep a record or think about much of the past or the future. It really is about. Did you bring home a kill today or did you find some food today or are we warm. Are we comfortable today? Yeah, so yeah, the um I you know what I I find to be interesting is. |
| 04:10.29 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 04:21.38 | mikebledsoe | I avoided doing the books in my business I avoided doing bookkeeping anything with finance at all and so ah, a little over a year ago I decided to I was talking to a friend I was talking to a friend like two and a half years ago and he was like well. |
| 04:27.48 | Max Shank | It. Ah. |
| 04:40.29 | mikebledsoe | You know you've never done your books I go no he goes you should probably do your books at some point just so you you know what's happening in the business like at a very granular level and I go I go. Okay, he goes I Still do my books and he's he runs multiple companies and. |
| 04:47.89 | Max Shank | I. |
| 04:58.20 | mikebledsoe | This and that definitely a different personality than I am right? but but he was right. There was a there was a there was something about the business I didn't quite understand yes I could get by without it I didn't need to do it. But if I rip. |
| 05:00.86 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 05:09.86 | Max Shank | Um, well, you're a star Mike you can make it you can make it work even if it's not a good plan and I can relate. |
| 05:23.74 | mikebledsoe | It's how you broke up for a None |
| 05:24.72 | Max Shank | Oh you can make a good plan Work. You can make a bad plan work. Ah, just because you have those skills and I can super relate to that and when you're ah less wise you trick yourself into thinking. That you had a good plan but really, you had a shit plan and you just happened to pull a miracle out of your ass. |
| 05:48.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's a pattern of behavior if you were to look back that the ah and it it is. It's like my whole family The ah the whole family. There was a saying growing up was like a ble so could fall into a pile of shit and still smell like a rose. |
| 05:57.65 | Max Shank | But. |
| 06:08.40 | mikebledsoe | like like 1 of those like we would put ourselves in these predicaments. But somehow we'd fucking escape. Yeah yeah, and it was kind of like a running joke. But the the thing is is when that is true when that's happened enough times. It starts. |
| 06:14.20 | Max Shank | Find the shower. Yeah. |
| 06:22.76 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 06:27.66 | mikebledsoe | It's It's hard to make planning important when not planning you still get pretty good Results. Maybe not the ultimate result you're looking for but pretty good results and I think most people have ah they have developed some type. Of something in their personality ah patterns of behavior in their life where they have continued to get a reward and so that's why they keep behaving that way even though there might be some people saying hey you might want to try it this other way. It's like why would I listen to somebody suggesting to do it another way unless my weight. Hasn't been working but what happens is as we get to a certain point that has happened with me. It's like I keep butting up against the same ceiling right? It's like oh every time I try to make more than this amount of money I hit the ceiling every time I do this I hit a ceiling and or every time I have a certain goal I hit a ceiling in the in. |
| 07:17.28 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 07:22.65 | Max Shank | On. |
| 07:27.70 | mikebledsoe | Reason is because the thing that got me to where I am now is probably the thing that's going to hold me back moving forward and I'm ah I'm a huge fan of of ah knowing your weaknesses and studying it. |
| 07:33.46 | Max Shank | Interesting idea. |
| 07:46.19 | mikebledsoe | A little bit just so you know what you don't know like I I do I learn enough about finance so that I know how to I can at least spot the Bs I can tell if somebody else knows what they're talking about. But if I don't know anything about it and I just straight up delegate it Out. I I think that's dangerous because I've done that before and gotten burned. How about you have you had like business partnerships and stuff like that where like not necessarily because somebody burned you. But. |
| 08:12.67 | Max Shank | Um, like you repeat that you you receive you repeat the same pattern is that what you're asking or. |
| 08:18.90 | mikebledsoe | No, no, no like if you don't know enough about a task that you have not developed yourself and say you completely outsource that task That's that's a problem. |
| 08:29.86 | Max Shank | Oh yeah, yeah, you put something you put something outside of your observation and and it leaves you vulnerable in in several ways I know at Discount Tire They don't promote anyone from the outside. It's only from the um. |
| 08:47.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, um. |
| 08:49.31 | Max Shank | The bottom up the whole thing and it's all about knowing every part of the process. Ah dude, you've said so many things that I want to respond to I took a couple notes here and the first one was ah in relation to the the bookkeeping. It's like. |
| 09:01.15 | mikebledsoe | You. |
| 09:07.88 | Max Shank | Reminded me immediately of the word intuitive eating and intuitive movement. So now we have intu intuitive finances. Ah here here on our show. We do intuitive finance is a new course coming out featuring ah featuring ah the. |
| 09:19.79 | mikebledsoe | Let me go see if that domain's available. |
| 09:26.96 | Max Shank | The crypto prince Mike Bledso and the ah the dinosaur. |
| 09:29.82 | mikebledsoe | Um, there's like so many domains I have to buy right now just spitting them out. Yeah. |
| 09:35.97 | Max Shank | Totally all right? So check it, you have intuitive eating and intuitive movement people are probably familiar with those terms but None of the things I was talking with my buddy about ah we're like man how are you shouldn't do. Intuitive eating if you suck like if you don't have knowledge and skills like intuitive eating is for sure the best way I would I mean it's a bold claim intuitive eating can be wonderful but you but also you need to have. |
| 10:05.30 | mikebledsoe | Well, you have to be in touch with your intuition for it to work for 1 |
| 10:14.61 | Max Shank | Some understanding of what is in the food like you can't if you go on just like pure ah like gut reaction. You're just going to eat ah like chips and soda pop all day long because it's delicious. So with finances you dig into the books a little bit. |
| 10:17.74 | mikebledsoe | By the way. |
| 10:34.52 | Max Shank | Now you might have a chance to approach something. That's a little bit more intuitive because now you have that vocabulary that ah understanding of the elements right? So that was the None thing I thought of um, it made me laugh. |
| 10:50.14 | mikebledsoe | Let's you got to have this structure. You have to have this structure in order to flow and like an intuition and flow go hand in hand. Yeah, exactly. |
| 10:55.40 | Max Shank | Right? We're talking about that last week right we were talking about that last week. The pipes are the structure and it harnesses the flow in the direction you want it to go ah and then the other thing that was interesting. We were talking about how? ah. A good outcome doesn't mean you had a good plan and if you're a super achiever guy. You can basically make a bad plan work and you don't want to conflate those 2 you don't want to confuse those things and think oh my plan was good. Really no, you're a stud but your plan sucks and so that's kind of. Looking at those weaknesses and then finally um, the the the identity perpetuating patterns is a funny one to me like if you ah I don't I don't know if this is true. It feels kind of true to me. But if you pride yourself and you label yourself as someone who's extremely tough who can take a lot of punishment and get back up every time they fall down. I have this idea that life is going to feed you more of that. What do you What do you think about that your identity perpetuating your reality. |
| 12:15.37 | mikebledsoe | Um, oh yeah, absolutely the? Ah ah well what we have to talk about the reticular activating system in this case and ah the RAS as a part of the brain. |
| 12:27.38 | Max Shank | Save the 10 dollars words for another podcast you son of a bitch. |
| 12:34.80 | mikebledsoe | Is responsible for so spotting things. So for instance, um, if I go buy a red pickup truck. What am I going to see a lot of on the road red pickup truck. We all know this we've all heard you know and we've all had the experience of. |
| 12:35.99 | Max Shank | Fucking nerd. |
| 12:45.98 | Max Shank | You. |
| 12:52.32 | mikebledsoe | We become interested in something and then all of a sudden we we start seeing it everywhere and we see it's a sign. Um and and so ah, the same thing happens with identity. If we believe something about ourselves and I like the way you talk about identity max which is you know the story we tell ourselves about ourselves if we that is our identity and we have this story about what is true I also like to think about what we believe to be true about ourselves and what we believe to be true about the world. Those are the None big things to have beliefs about right? It's either a belief about self or belief. |
| 13:28.64 | Max Shank | Yeah, maybe that's what encompasses your identity right? is your place in the world. Also it's not just the label you attach to yourself. It's um, there's that classic phrase is you know. Life is happening for you. Some people believe and some people believe life happens to you I used to start off asking people questions like ah do you feel Life is more like a game a show or a ride I used to start all my like coaching programs with these weird. |
| 13:47.29 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
| 14:07.70 | Max Shank | Questions and then I'd ask people what the word intelligent means and people would stumble all over it and have no clue what smart even means and it was just like this fun thing but depending on how you see life if you see life is more like a ride you might have a hell of a wild and awesome ride. But it's going to be different than someone who thinks they are playing a game that they must win right? It's going to be huge difference. |
| 14:27.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, totally yeah, right is passive that it's happening and there's not much I'm going to do um, a game I'm an active participant. It might be great. Ah. |
| 14:36.17 | Max Shank | Um, and it might be great. It might be great. The the thing is like I want to I make sure that people understand I'm not trying to say that one is superior although I love games and winning is fun. Winning isn't everything. But it's the only thing right? There's that all like ah but I've I've met people who live life like it's a ride and they they do well and they're very happy and I've seen people who. Live life like a game and it's a real challenge the whole time and it doesn't look as far and vice versa. So There's quadrants you know. |
| 15:19.30 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well I think the ride I think the ride is a good way to go if you have momentum in a certain direction. There's like because well well what? what? ah. |
| 15:32.12 | Max Shank | Everybody's got momentum in a certain direction dude like you the word momentum starts with the word mom. As soon as you get launched out of a vagina there is momentum to you. |
| 15:42.85 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well if you're if you're in a poor trajectory and you're on a ride then it's not a good thing. But if you have if you're going in a great direction with Momentum then the ride is probably really good for you. So. |
| 15:45.53 | Max Shank | Your life has momentum as soon as you cross the gate. Yeah. |
| 15:58.64 | Max Shank | I Like that we're going to bring it back to physics here. Yeah, we're going to coast a little bit kick push kick push Coast right? I think with when it comes to work which is ah a big part of. |
| 16:05.45 | mikebledsoe | Exactly exactly. |
| 16:17.36 | Max Shank | Ah, even having any accounting or bookkeeping to do. It's um, it's nice to remember that the suffering that you feel the amount of effort you apply has ah very little to do. |
| 16:35.71 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 16:35.97 | Max Shank | With the result you know, ah Momentum and Aerodynamics are a really really nice example of that. So just just having ah a better, a better setup can be. Be a huge difference maker. It doesn't matter how much effort or suffering goes into it I think that's ah, another big identity thing I know for me that was ah that was a challenge I Thought that suffering was proportional to success or or good or goodness right? Um, and I think. |
| 17:08.96 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 17:13.79 | Max Shank | A lot of people still do believe that is my guess so like. |
| 17:14.60 | mikebledsoe | They do I talk to people who do all time I Want to go back to like the the collecting of evidence for what you believe about the world and what you believe about yourself. So this this identity you know who you believe you are and what you believe the world is and how you fit inside of it. |
| 17:26.34 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 17:33.77 | mikebledsoe | You These are all just a series of narratives that are playing out most of these narratives were set up when you were a kid and you what you've been doing the whole time. He's been collecting evidence to support it you ah the that part of your. |
| 17:42.86 | Max Shank | I. |
| 17:53.20 | mikebledsoe | Brain doesn't go out there looking for things that don't support it. They're going out there look for things that do support it and so you can tell? Yeah, so when you yeah so when you have stacked a lot of time. |
| 18:03.25 | Max Shank | Confirmation Bias I think is what that's called think like racism like racism you you get up ah in the morning your parents are racist. They're saying bad things about the neighbors. Maybe you live in a bad area where. |
| 18:14.32 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 18:20.45 | Max Shank | All your neighbors are bad white and black and yellow and different colors alike but you only look out like what you were saying with your ah reticular activating system is you look out for those things and not only is it that you see them. Because what you notice is so different than what you see and you just confirm those beliefs over and over again because your vision is crazy small and Selective. You know, kind of going back to the vision Piece. It's a very complex mechanism that. Creates a total illusion inside your brain. |
| 19:02.83 | mikebledsoe | There was a I was listening to a podcast by Lex Friedman the other day I forget who shared it with me. Um, but he's he's ah interviewing this like evolutionary physicist I don't know like so some some dude that's they. Is way smarter than either None of us and he was talking about. |
| 19:24.72 | Max Shank | Well I resent that clearly you don't know what the word smart means. |
| 19:29.65 | mikebledsoe | Ah, this guy. Ah, basically through mathematics is able to demonstrate how our perception is. It's impossible for our perception to match reality. And in fact, it's so far from reality that. Which which isn't not news to you or me but to a lot of people. They they do think that they're noticing some things and then they're perceiving others when in fact, it's None perception that's happening and if we look out through lens of evolution then what we're what we have is. Ah. Ah, ah, the fittest right? It's it's the fittest is what evolves it's not It's not the truth. So the truth does not actually ah doesn't come into play when it comes to survival so whatever you whatever you need to perceive in order to survive. Is how your entire consciousness will develop. |
| 20:33.22 | Max Shank | When you say truth What do you mean because I I would agree that what a person sees is dependent on their memory because what they're what they're doing is they're differentiating ah the way a picture is interpreted. |
| 20:50.10 | mikebledsoe | And um. |
| 20:52.71 | Max Shank | And the picture is just simply about the ah um, the reception of light and we only have a small visible spectrum. So you're talking about the truth being everything versus what is visible to the naked eye. Oh then. |
| 21:08.25 | mikebledsoe | That's correct. |
| 21:11.57 | Max Shank | Absolutely I mean there's ah there are some great pictures. You can look up on the electromagnetic spectrum That's like a really cool ah thing to check out. Everything is just buzzing around and some of it. We can see and some of it. We can't and some animals. |
| 21:26.57 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and but it's not. It's not necessary. Yeah. |
| 21:30.52 | Max Shank | And see ultraviolet and Infrared. It's not Useful. It's really about what is a um I feel like I say it all the time.. It's like what is a predictable Pattern. What is a predictable pattern if you have a really hard turtle shell on your back. It's predictable that. Nothing is going to bite through it as long as you're inside the shell if you're inside a cave and the cave is sealed the the jaguar or the leopard or the line will not get you in the night those kind of things are um. |
| 21:52.83 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 22:09.88 | Max Shank | Stuff that we've learned based on what we've seen but it's not the the whole picture right. |
| 22:13.80 | mikebledsoe | No, no. But yeah, so we look for the fact is almost nobody has an accurate understanding of the world or of themselves. Well that. |
| 22:26.49 | Max Shank | What do you mean? almost nobody who's this who's this guy that has it all figured out I want to meet this dude and. |
| 22:32.64 | mikebledsoe | There's this one guy there's this one guy I think that he may have it figured out but he'll remain nameless. |
| 22:40.97 | Max Shank | He's the one he's the 1 standing on the milk crate at the corner of a Columbus and None right? it it is probably someone like that I mean hey yeah, the concept. |
| 22:44.00 | mikebledsoe | For sure for sure. He's the fuck crazy fucker lives under the bridge. Well, there's a have you read? the have you read this series by Jed Mckenna okay Jeed Mckenna wrote a ah. |
| 22:57.58 | Max Shank | M. |
| 23:00.16 | mikebledsoe | Series. The first book is called spiritual enlightenment The damnedest thing and um I used to be really hesitant to even mention it in public. But I've gotten a little bit looser because you know what if you want to destroy your entire ego. You know who am I to stop you So the. This guy. Ah, this guy wrote this book on Enlightenment. He basically outlines how spirituality is actually ah will keep you from being enlightened and really creates a distinction between the 2 And you know that the the deal is you can't explain what enlightenment is because it's something that would only you can only experience once it's you can only experience it and then once you've experienced it. There's no going back to the illusion and. |
| 23:53.90 | Max Shank | Well, and once again, what are we trying to describe when we say the word enlightenment so just getting really right? It's ah it's a sign. It's a symbol that we're using to determine like this feeling that we we have this feeling in mind. |
| 23:57.14 | mikebledsoe | Was It's indescribable. Well well being well being well being. Well different people. Well a lot of people see it as a feeling but the the way the guy describes it This book is that you only see you you know the absolute truth at all times you're. |
| 24:11.78 | Max Shank | Right? and. |
| 24:21.41 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 24:23.10 | mikebledsoe | You stabilize that state of consciousness and um, basically life gets incredibly boring because there's no narratives I mean you can witness narratives but you're not actually participating um in them anymore at all. |
| 24:37.11 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 24:42.64 | mikebledsoe | There's nothing to believe about yourself. There's nothing to believe about the world outside of what you can directly validate for yourself through observation and even then the story that tying the the dots together to create a narrative just doesn't exist anymore. |
| 24:59.11 | Max Shank | It would be so hard to function with other people if you actually did that it'd be. |
| 25:03.36 | mikebledsoe | Well well in the book If you read the book series. You'd really, there's he he's basically documenting conversations and he fucking almost hates having to interact with people. You know it's It's not a you know he basically just sees everybody as little children. |
| 25:15.30 | Max Shank | Um, right. |
| 25:21.59 | Max Shank | Well that I agree with I mean people are like little children. Um. |
| 25:23.32 | mikebledsoe | Well, he gets into that in the book as well. I think you would enjoy the series. Yeah, it's a it's a trilogy. It's it's I chuckled my way through it and it was. It was pretty good. Ah although I. |
| 25:30.36 | Max Shank | The series. Okay. |
| 25:40.35 | Max Shank | I Feel like. |
| 25:42.47 | mikebledsoe | Read it in 2017 at it early Twenty seventeen it ah it did do a number on me totally totally. |
| 25:46.65 | Max Shank | Ah, might hit a little different now too. Ah I liked what you said about spirituality getting in the way of enlightenment because when I think of the word enlightenment I Like you know me I like to keep things as simple as possible because I'm not as smart as all these science guys and. |
| 25:55.97 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 26:11.66 | Max Shank | When I think of enlightenment I think about just a reduction in in mass. So you're you're reducing So you're trying to literally make yourself lighter. Yeah, it's like I wrote this phrase down that I've always loved. It's like you can only sharpen. |
| 26:20.42 | mikebledsoe | It's a destructive process. |
| 26:31.20 | Max Shank | By removing material like otherwise it's a different thing but you sharpen something by taking stuff away and ah there are a lot of different analogies in some ancient wisdoms About. You know, don't be sharp like a sword you know, let yourself become dull and plain like a stone in a River and that kind of stuff and I really resonate with that and the more you have to keep up with these stories the the more you are burdened. And so it's like how do you find a way to fully connect which is like flow in that moment without getting attached and you realize every attachment you have is derived from that identity that you have all all the attachments. Are in relation to your identity. It's like a big net where you're the center spoke or maybe a wheel where you're in the center and it's all these relationships with everything else. |
| 27:30.19 | mikebledsoe | Well, the way the way that Jed ah he describes it in the book. He's like you know, a lot of people like to think about what you're talking about these these these beliefs that are in our consciousness like I believe they're in this beautiful web. Or a net or something like that he goes the reality is it's a rat's nest. You have no idea what belongs where until you start pulling a thread and and even then you don't know what? Ah every what all it was connected to and um, yeah, so like that that really hit home for me when. |
| 27:59.22 | Max Shank | Um, oh yeah. |
| 28:08.74 | mikebledsoe | Because I up to that point I was thinking Oh there's this beautiful web and if I pull this part of the web then I'm not really sure what'll happen on this other side of the web but he's like now it's a Rat's nest. It's just as a is a disaster zone inside of people's minds. Oh. |
| 28:17.48 | Max Shank | E. |
| 28:23.29 | Max Shank | Um, often yeah. |
| 28:27.88 | mikebledsoe | Which I find to be accurate because anytime I've worked with people through like a belief and then we watch it dissolve. There's just no way to predict how that's going to impact their life. It's like oh I didn't know it wass going to impact that area of your life in that way. Okay, that was a surprise. |
| 28:43.17 | Max Shank | Some people are more attached. Some people are a little some people have a pretty easy time letting stuff go and some people have ah a really hard time or. |
| 28:44.79 | mikebledsoe | Some people are more attached. |
| 28:52.64 | mikebledsoe | I have um so I have a ah story to share I have a ah mentee I was talking to yesterday and he goes mike do you believe in curses I was like well um, you know. If you're talking about someone putting a curse on you if you believe someone put a curse on you then the only way the curse will work is if you believe that the curse is real if you believe that someone put a curse on you then it weren't like you you are cursed and and. |
| 29:21.25 | Max Shank | Um, then it definitely worked. You're fucked. That's yeah. |
| 29:29.50 | mikebledsoe | And you're the only one that can undo it right? and so and so that was That's how I started he goes. He's like well well I met this guy and he said that he said that Um, my family had a curse and I. |
| 29:43.89 | Max Shank | Sounds like 1 of them spiritual ah barriers to enlightenment perhaps or maybe he was right I don't I don't know. |
| 29:48.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well well Ego I Go what? Well I say I I was like well we have to Define Curse of course that we we do that on the show at Lot. We Define things and I was like like look I don't I don't necessarily believe in curses in the way that ah. People who use that language probably believe in them because I don't need to believe in the curse I Um I I think that people use that language when they're actually confused about what that is. It's like this. It's mystical. And that's one of the things that ah jeed was getting in the book with spirituality is there's so so much mysticism and that is there's so much mystery, There's so much that we don't understand that you have to buy into and that happens a lot in spirituality people start throwing these words around and I don't know what they're talking about. |
| 30:44.60 | Max Shank | On. |
| 30:44.85 | mikebledsoe | And I'm pretty sure they have no idea what they're talking about because they just strung together a bunch of words that don't make any sense to to anybody in the room and if I were to ask them to break it down in plain language. It's not going to happen and so anytime anyone starts using a lot of flowery language. Both me my fiancee would just leave. |
| 30:55.95 | Max Shank | Um, right. |
| 31:04.62 | mikebledsoe | Like neither one of us like to put up with that that shit you know and so that there's a lot of people in the quote unquote conscious community that exists that like you know I think they're doing good stuff I like them and all that but we're probably not going to hang out I don't want to like those people are confused. And so ah, what. |
| 31:25.45 | Max Shank | How could people not be confused I mean we act like it's just been this sequential build. But the reality is that cultures and nations and peoples and laws have just been patched together ah time and time again with. Almost never having a chance to really clean the slate. That's why when you have something like America it's like whoa. It's not totally blank slate but it's it's pretty close. They were like okay, let's let's think about this real quick like. |
| 31:54.53 | mikebledsoe | It was. It was pretty. It was pretty blank. |
| 32:04.41 | Max Shank | What are we going to do here and because and then of course now what we have is just the patchwork quilt of that initial weaving and we're just sticking stuff in here and we're like oh yeah, the school's not doing so good so they need more tests or we'll teach them the tests ahead of time and. |
| 32:09.64 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 32:23.67 | Max Shank | It's just all these fucking patches and ah so it's no wonder that it's just this absolute cluster fuck like you were saying where most of the stuff you just have to take on faith Ah, which of course is kind of kind of back to. Well. |
| 32:35.95 | mikebledsoe | We you don't have to I I I try not my my goal is I tell people a lot of times they'll ask me what I believe I go and I said you know I don't believe in much of anything if I can't validate it for myself then I'm gonna tell you. |
| 32:42.72 | Max Shank | Yeah I mean. |
| 32:55.92 | mikebledsoe | I don't know. Ah there are things that are useful if I were to believe when I believe this way it's something I can't validate for myself. But I can validate the result of believing it which is ah something I want in my life or something I don't want in my life. So I I like to. |
| 32:56.92 | Max Shank | O. |
| 33:04.61 | Max Shank | And. |
| 33:11.30 | Max Shank | E. |
| 33:14.52 | mikebledsoe | Be able to admit that I have no idea what the truth is but I do know what's useful and ah there are some things that I can validate for myself and I just know that now going back to the curse and and a curse on the family the the way that I. I Talked about that with him is that every family has a curse and the yeah and they they have some blessings as well. But the but the curse. |
| 33:40.63 | Max Shank | Whoa How about a blessing do they have blessings Also because if you can curse another person then it would stand to reason that you could also bless them The logic's not sound completely. But. |
| 33:48.22 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, you could. |
| 33:55.70 | Max Shank | If you believe that you can be cursed. You probably also believe someone could say a prayer for you or give you a blessing or cast a magical spell. |
| 33:59.91 | mikebledsoe | But I think we've all seen this like I think what? But what he was talking about is that there's a trend in his family. There's a trend of this pattern of behavior and and it seems mysterious to to them and maybe to people around them who who. |
| 34:08.84 | Max Shank | In. |
| 34:19.57 | mikebledsoe | Are Not very good at paying attention. Um, they're not in that practice and so but if you pay attention close Enough. You have well there is a pattern of behavior that's leading to these cursed results right? These results to seem to be a curse. Well the curse is going to be a mystery until you. Until you go to? why are people why? what is the behavior that's leading to this and where did that behavior come from and. |
| 34:45.17 | Max Shank | Back to curiosity if you can get to that state like then then that's like as close as you can get to a ah blank slate moving forward is to get curious about what is rather than confirming what you believe I think is the. |
| 34:52.22 | mikebledsoe | Key So curiosity keep curiosity. |
| 35:04.14 | Max Shank | The major key so you're curious about what is or perhaps what can be ah and that way you are not confirming the pre-existing beliefs right? Which definitely feels more stable I mean everything. All the all this talk about writing stuff down and recording things is to increase predictability and stability. So I feel comfortable lending you the None goats. |
| 35:30.35 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well this is what as you I said Curiosity is the cure for curses. So if you if we're going to show title somehow. So so so um, look so I'm talking to him and I go. |
| 35:38.60 | Max Shank | Um, cool. That's that sounds nice. |
| 35:50.26 | mikebledsoe | This is the curse is what your parents learn from from their parents and then what they taught you is is there's an ancestral pattern of behavior that's playing out and if you don't understand how that pattern works then it's going to be mysterious. And then someone's going to come along and and use the label curse because it's the word curse is kind of a mysterious thing in itself like Witches curse things and that you know it's kind of like it's magic. Yeah, so like I and then so I have to go back in that. Yeah. |
| 36:15.78 | Max Shank | Um, yeah, like a Hex or something like that. Yeah, but you can use magic for good too. You know. |
| 36:24.97 | mikebledsoe | It to something that's magical or mystical is just something you don't understand how it works yet. Yeah. |
| 36:29.62 | Max Shank | Yes, exactly magic You don't get the trick and as soon as you know how it works. It's not magic anymore. It's just a trick hey do the trick. You know it's magic when you don't follow what's happening and most things really are magic I'm a very curious guy I don't like to not know stuff. |
| 36:36.33 | mikebledsoe | Now. |
| 36:47.11 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 36:49.43 | Max Shank | Honestly, maybe it's maybe it's a character defect or an an effect I don't I don't know exactly what it is but ah, it's really difficult actually to know how stuff works just if you look around wherever you are right now and just try to figure out how all the stuff is working. Unless you are a like Captain Science or something like that. You're going to find it really taxing to figure out how everything works in the world around you and I think one of the things about objectivism which is where i'm. Trying to come at things from it's weird I'm like objectivist in terms of like if it works I'm going to use it and that's good enough for me and also a more metaphysical connection to an everlasting eternal and infinite source that is. Totally the opposite of objective. It's completely subjective. It's like a feeling that it's funny because it's either ah true or not true and so if I am making myself. Believe that it is true and it gives me a good feeling then I just kind of gave myself a little blessing basically and I think that's a lot of what religion is about It's like hey you know what it feels good that there is a wise fatherly figure who's not too hands on. |
| 38:06.49 | mikebledsoe | Exactly. |
| 38:21.42 | Max Shank | By the way, not an overbearing parent or father figure all powerful looking out for me. He loves me says so in the book. That's that's going to feel pretty nice I can totally understand what I would feel nice. Are you kidding. |
| 38:33.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well you know, ah this brings up. Yeah well well I see a huge like a really beneficial place for religion. Um, you know when I look at when I look at you know people that are you know mainstream people. |
| 38:38.37 | Max Shank | About the boost in morale. |
| 38:47.62 | Max Shank | Fanatics. Oh. |
| 38:51.95 | mikebledsoe | Religion is a really great way to get them to behave like if somebody doesn't hasn't been through the questions and the logic and really sat with themselves and have an understanding of like ah of karma basically cause and effect how you know if I do this and I get this result. Most people have no idea that person is going to do really good going to church on Sunday and having the None commandments repeated to them and because the 10 commandments. It's kind of hard hard to argue with that shit like. |
| 39:26.10 | Max Shank | It's a bit outlandish really I mean no killing or coveting the neighbor's wife give me a break. |
| 39:30.48 | mikebledsoe | I think there was there was I think the one that don't covet your neighbor's wife is the only one that does not include an action that every the 9 commandments was don't do these things and then the last one was like. |
| 39:47.64 | Max Shank | Don't even want this. |
| 39:49.67 | mikebledsoe | Stamp out that desire like it was the it was the only one that was around desire. Everything else was about behavior so which is really really interesting that it that it that it was wrapped like that which I think is also really good advice. Ah you want to be miserable. |
| 39:58.36 | Max Shank | Um, it's like yeah, ah. |
| 40:07.81 | Max Shank | Just covet everything You don't have. |
| 40:08.31 | mikebledsoe | Like it. Yeah I mean just means to have envy you know to be jealous like it's like oh you know that dude's wife is hotter than mine I I think about her all the time talk about suffering you want to make yourself suffer. |
| 40:21.16 | Max Shank | How about the illusion. How about the illusion like that I mean you bring up a great point could talk about it all day. But I won't I mean look at what we do to fabricate a better illusion shiny sports cars glittery tits. We're doing the whole nine yards just to. We're so hyper audio visual. We're so hypervisual. It's insane and you know that. |
| 40:46.44 | mikebledsoe | I think 75% of your perception at least seventy five eighty percent on the yeah well the eyes are just an extension of your nervous system. It's just like your nerves have come out and it makes more sense. It makes sense. |
| 40:53.42 | Max Shank | Um, it's like. |
| 41:00.69 | Max Shank | Yeah, yeah, no I follow I Follow what you're ah what you're going at um I think it's interesting. A lot of people consume media now with the sound off and it's just visual isn't that interesting. |
| 41:03.82 | mikebledsoe | Now. |
| 41:10.63 | mikebledsoe | I Do I I I have everything set up to where I have to like purposely turn the sound on and and I hope if you don't have a caption on your video I'm I'm skipping right over because I don't want to interrupt I don't want to interrupt my music. |
| 41:19.50 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 41:24.52 | Max Shank | Um, oh shit game over that. |
| 41:29.22 | mikebledsoe | And got my music playing to my phone now I'm going to have some fucking Instagram real barin now get out of here. So I caption everything. Ah. |
| 41:33.86 | Max Shank | Totally totally totally. But I think that just goes to show that we we are. We're very one-dimensional and very heavily focused on the vision and this whole this whole thing. It's like we're not quite. |
| 41:42.53 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 41:52.86 | Max Shank | Um, full slaves to our primal ah lust and hunger which that's pretty fun. That's one good option but we're also not fully bought in to this enlightened state either. You know? So we're not we're not really ah enjoying the primal ah savageness and we're also not really in the egoless enviousless wrathless smoothness of ah you know, connected communication and communion. With other things and ah creatures in your universe which is your unique perspective. So. It's a but it's a real bummer to be between those 2 is that's like the worst place you don't really get the benefit of either None you know you're. |
| 42:35.65 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, ah. |
| 42:46.30 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah. |
| 42:49.76 | Max Shank | Lizard Brain afraid all the time you're not really getting the you know the the lust and the hunger they're full due and you're not on the the wizard mode either sounds awful just bought in the illusion. |
| 42:58.50 | mikebledsoe | Terrible terrible. So ah, so so there there was this moment I had where I um I really got to have um, an appreciation for religion I was it was ah. 2018 I was in ah Paris France and I went to see Notre ah Notre Dame um and before it burned ah and I got to go I walked in. |
| 43:22.62 | Max Shank | Any. |
| 43:33.80 | Max Shank | Um I did too. It was awesome I might have been there in the same year I might have been there at like the same time is fucking weird. We were there on a date. |
| 43:36.17 | mikebledsoe | So cool. So I walked in I'm looking at oh oh weird. So they add all this these ah these these monk These monks had like these hats. You know you saw like the hats with the Jewels and. |
| 43:50.57 | Max Shank | Just kidding like. |
| 43:55.44 | mikebledsoe | And everything and are and I'm in there and I'm looking at the the cathedral from inside and I go and then I went and looked at the outside I was like man there is a lot of symbolism here and I was like this is super psychedelic like yeah, what I'm looking at. |
| 44:08.63 | Max Shank | Um, lot of fancy hats in religions too. |
| 44:13.71 | mikebledsoe | What I'm looking at is it looks very mystical and reminds me I remember looking at this one piece and I was like that's a fucking dmt trip right? there I'm gonna tell you right now I've I've been there and I and then I started seeing it everywhere I was like this is. These cathedrals in Europe are so psychedelic and so I'm in Notre domina and I'm like I'm like okay I'm getting a download here. Let's go home. Went back to the apartment I booked a tour. |
| 44:32.94 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 44:45.59 | mikebledsoe | For the next day I was like I need I need like a proper tour this me wandering around and by myself not going to cut it and so what do I do I drop acid before the tour because I'm a genius and ah. We signed up for a group tour but we were me and my ex-wife were the only 2 that signed up so we had a private tour while on Assad and we we got to go the guy was like I normally don't tell people about this because if there's catholics ah in the group they get really triggered. |
| 45:06.25 | Max Shank | Amazing. |
| 45:20.80 | mikebledsoe | Because there was so much of the symbolism on the church was taken from ah ancient Egypt and and basically every religion up to that point is represented in in Notre Dame um which makes it even more interesting than some of the other cathedrals. Yeah, it's. |
| 45:34.90 | Max Shank | See I didn't I didn't even know that that's awesome I checked it out but I did not get a tour I Certainly didn't get that. |
| 45:40.33 | mikebledsoe | Ah, there there is references in the architecture to ah the chakras 7 chakras it's very it to me. It was like very blatant but ah to someone who's. |
| 45:48.49 | Max Shank | So now. |
| 45:54.34 | Max Shank | Ah, neat. That's awesome. That's neat. No no, no, that's neat. No, that's really cool. This is neat. |
| 45:59.19 | mikebledsoe | Ah, he said 8 I was like but ah that is neat. So so i' go inside and I and I get to spend a couple I you know how long I spend because I'm on asset two or three hours with this tour guide and we're just jamming I'm like just pulling all the information out of him and I'm like I'm like well what do you think about this, he goes. |
| 46:13.30 | Max Shank | A. |
| 46:18.69 | mikebledsoe | Oh you're one of those I was like yeah man I don't care like like let's really go there So I got to go there with this guy and basically what I got the conclusion I came to is these monks are sitting in the church in a dark room and they're in there just chanting chanting for days. |
| 46:19.83 | Max Shank | Are in. |
| 46:37.72 | mikebledsoe | Chanting and chant they're getting into these psychedelic states they're doing it through chanting. Maybe they're drinking some wine and chanting and they're getting into this weird state and maybe there's some mushrooms in the wine who the fuck knows and they get these. They get all this information they get they get to have contact. |
| 46:43.57 | Max Shank | Yep. |
| 46:56.58 | mikebledsoe | With the divine this they have this mystical experience that they then get their experience truth in a way that you can't explain to somebody else. But once you have this experience. You go. You know we probably you know. |
| 47:06.12 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 47:13.26 | mikebledsoe | Property rights is a thing and the cat back then the Catholic Church controlled property if you want to buy or sell you know your deed it was held with the Catholic Church and and Notre Damme was ah was it started being built I want to say in 808 or 900 somewhere there and wasn't finished until like well technically still not finished. But. I think it was ah like a none project so it was not a short project. |
| 47:36.19 | Max Shank | Um, the 151516 sounds right to me fifteen sixteen hundred I can't recall maybe as late as 17 |
| 47:43.49 | mikebledsoe | Well I think they then I think they may have had like a finishing point but then they started up again and depending on who was who was who believed what at the time they would like tear down a statue and put a different statue up and all the shit. Yeah. |
| 47:51.63 | Max Shank | Rebuilding and building. |
| 47:59.10 | Max Shank | Funky right? I remember there were some cool statues and like gargoyles and devils on the outside and shut like that there. It was actually the outside was super hardcore I remember looking at that for a long time. There was a lot of angels and demons. |
| 48:01.37 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, it's like like super hardcore. |
| 48:14.38 | mikebledsoe | And Mary with Mary with a torch surrounded by gargoyles and yeah, it's fucking wild and so um, so I I got thinking about it and I got to appreciate I go all these peasants outside they're giving them gifts because they come out. |
| 48:15.38 | Max Shank | Devils and freaky shit. Yeah, you know that would. |
| 48:33.28 | mikebledsoe | After days of chanting go I got the message I had a meeting with god I had this divine mystical experience and you know what Don not don't try to fuck your buddys wife you know, ah and you shouldn't steal shit and you know what I mean like. |
| 48:49.10 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 48:52.30 | mikebledsoe | All these rules were created by the church. Um, but they're not they weren't new but like there was other rules like they had you know the church was running shit back then they were really running shit until around the fifteen hundreds and so um, ah. |
| 48:55.35 | Max Shank | Um, well those aren't new ideas though at that point either. |
| 49:03.78 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 49:11.68 | mikebledsoe | I Really just got a big appreciation for religion at that point because I go well for me to expect for everybody to have had I've had a lot of mystical experiences. You know that the meeting with God has happened several times where. |
| 49:23.44 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 49:29.44 | mikebledsoe | I Go into this really deep state and things become very obvious and the behaviors that follow like oh yeah I should change this I shouldn't shouldn't behave like this anymore like this because I'm at a blindment with this other thing and so as like I'm just making myself miserable. |
| 49:35.35 | Max Shank | What. |
| 49:47.91 | mikebledsoe | So when I first had that experience I go everybody should have this experience and then after years of promoting people to have this experience I Realized a ah most people are not willing to have the experience. They're not. They're not even curious about it. It's not interesting to them and then B some people. |
| 49:52.47 | Max Shank | Um I. |
| 50:02.82 | Max Shank | And. |
| 50:06.73 | mikebledsoe | Become curious about it and they probably shouldn't have touched it because they don't they couldn't they they can't handle. There's they don't have enough like some type of mental construct in order to handle the the weight of that experience because you're going from 0 to 60 |
| 50:24.37 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 50:26.10 | mikebledsoe | And ah and a split second with some of these things. Um, and so. |
| 50:29.42 | Max Shank | Yeah, it's way faster than chanting. It's like you can achieve kind of a similar experience with a lot of different things like you can get the runners high or you can just ah smoke a blunt or something like that you can chant for three days or you can just drop some acid. |
| 50:41.10 | mikebledsoe | Totally yeah. |
| 50:47.13 | Max Shank | And so we have all these shortcuts to get into that state and I think it's a connected and receptive state. It allows you to see past your own illusion I think it it temporarily depending on the dosage right. |
| 51:03.32 | mikebledsoe | Yep. |
| 51:04.40 | Max Shank | Temporarily takes away that tight grip on the um ego that you've built essentially as a suit of armor to survive the environment that you live in and we live in an environment where stories matter quite a lot I Mean. Like the the reality of how I am on a day-to-day. Basis is so different than from what you would find if you just searched for me on the internet. You would think that all I do is play Sports lift weights. |
| 51:33.37 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 51:40.74 | Max Shank | And dance in my backyard with my shirt off but I call it mobility instead of dancing and that would be That's like the whole thing. That's that's the illusion that's out there. So whatever. Whatever avatar you project out you you use it. Maybe not as armor maybe almost as like a scuba suit to enter the environment of society that we're in so it's natural that you would want to do that. You'd want to have armor plating you'd want to have these ah pretty colors on this avatar. So people really like it and maybe someone will even love you. If Your feathers are are pretty enough and so everything is just reinforcing these ideas but it's still coming from like a lizard brain type of desire and so it's no wonder that people are a little tangled up. Like in like a ah web of self and parents and teachers and fame and shame and blame and all these different things like that's why when you were like oh people are just children I'm like yeah they're like often abused children and abuse is like. It happens in so many different ways. It's like ah probably like 1 of the least popular things to talk about is rape but the only problem with rape is the lack of consent because nearly everybody is on board with sex and a lot of people from both genders like raping. Also. But that's like maybe even another. Ah, that's a different can of worms that I'm not not looking to unpack right now off the cuff because well look. It's um. |
| 53:23.68 | mikebledsoe | Why'd you even mention it. |
| 53:29.53 | Max Shank | People have their boundaries crossed in a lot of different ways and the the thing is it's that feeling of having your boundary crossed and so people feel um, abused or diminished or beaten down or taken from in a lot of different ways and so it's like. That idea that ah wherever you get wounded the bone grows back twice as strong like the calcification is like your personality from all these miniature traumas you've had and if someone's. Forcing you to do None thing or another they're still forcing you to do None thing or another and how you can harmonize that into the future is going to determine how you find the world and you know there are different levels of trauma. But if you're not willing to let it go. You are just going to go ah equal and opposite to that force basically right. |
| 54:25.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 54:31.37 | Max Shank | Ah, yeah, So I'm not Surprised. People are all all twisted up with identity and perception and I know personally I've found a lot of peace through trying to see things as they are. And it's not something that is like on off switch but it can happen really fast all at once. In fact, just for anyone listening. It's kind of an interesting thing in my experience. It's not a linear progress on this sort of. Thinking it All. It's like giant leaps forward and then a little plateau and then a giant leap forward and then a little Plateau I don't know what it's been like for you. But. |
| 55:17.51 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it? um well the giant leaps forward or never yeah, they can be difficult. But yeah, it seems like seems like there's this giant leap forward then I got to stabilize the jump right? There's not a. So like oh I jump forward and everything's Great. It's like oh now because in those giant leaps especially if you have a shift in your own identity then everybody in your life. You're about to ah destroy their expectations of you. The stability is gone. |
| 55:37.27 | Max Shank | But. |
| 55:49.48 | Max Shank | Well, the Stability's gone right? The stability. |
| 55:54.85 | mikebledsoe | There's chaos it creates chaos and it creates chaos for your friends and your family because they can count on you to behave like this whether it's a good behavior or not and they're even looking to count on. They're counting on you to behave poorly and then all of a sudden you do something in order to be successful. |
| 56:05.51 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 56:13.73 | mikebledsoe | And they may even get mad at you about it. They like like I've I've had people in the past that were like mad that I was successful enough to where I didn't have to run my gym anymore they were like oh you're like leaving. |
| 56:17.74 | Max Shank | They'll definitely get mad at you about it. A lot of the time. |
| 56:26.48 | Max Shank | A. |
| 56:30.18 | mikebledsoe | Things behind you, you're you're changing and you're a different person like and they're mad about it I go Well yeah, that was isn't that the point like what do you think I was doing all this work for to stay the same. |
| 56:34.66 | Max Shank | Um, yeah, yeah, dude I remember that I remember the one that made me laugh The hardest um I fired this guy who worked for me because he was lying to me. |
| 56:54.19 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 56:54.45 | Max Shank | And if I can't trust someone. It's basically like see you later you know and 1 of the members at my gym texted me and said I can't believe you did this. You're really ruining my happiness. |
| 57:05.62 | mikebledsoe | Ah, you're in charge of their happiness. All of a sudden. |
| 57:11.00 | Max Shank | I just thought it was so funny. It was like anything different. This guy's like totally lost it and you know there are two sides to every story right? So there's no point in trying to have like an argument about its rightness or wrongness it. It just is what it is. It's like that Mark Twain quote how his. Taylor was the only reasonable person because he took his measurement new every time instead of measuring him against how he was in the past and dude absolutely like if you quit drinking I think that's ah one that a lot of people relate to you know. |
| 57:34.38 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 57:45.54 | mikebledsoe | Oh yeah. |
| 57:48.86 | Max Shank | Ah, used to be a bit of a party animal or just ah, a different type of party animal and as soon as you stop as soon as you stop doing that They're like what do? what are you doing? You're you're like ditching us. Oh you're too good for us or something I guess like no man like just doing a different thing. |
| 57:51.25 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I had the same thing quit drinking. Yeah. |
| 58:03.26 | mikebledsoe | Well it kind of sucks when you stop drinking because I had this experience I remember it was yeah it's like well 20 I remember it was like 2013 and i. |
| 58:12.44 | Max Shank | That's where our culture has fun for adults. That's like the place. |
| 58:21.61 | mikebledsoe | I had to actually cut back on drinking a little bit up to that point not completely I started smoking a little bit of weed when I was my and 2011 so I started smoking weed because I didn't like how I was behaving when I was on alcohol I was. Blacking out I was doing and saying stupid shit. Um I was around like my gym members. You know I'd be out at a bar with gym members. The next thing you know like like what what did I say last night I don't even know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the next day is like. |
| 58:52.55 | Max Shank | Feeling of up. |
| 58:57.14 | mikebledsoe | I Just I don't know what I did but I got this feeling. It wasn't good. You know, ah and so I cut back the drink and I I discovered that weed if I smoked a little weed before I went out I would drink way less and then weed would make me way less aggressive. |
| 58:59.53 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 59:14.18 | mikebledsoe | So I could still be out I could still be sociable. |
| 59:14.87 | Max Shank | Um, oh you think Alcohol alcohol is like so crazy when you think about it that we're just like yeah whatever you can have it have as much as you want? whatever. |
| 59:21.30 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, but but I was using the weed to like offset the you know it calm me down and and then I would just drink less and because I was already kind of feeling it if I drink too much while being high that ah that. Wasn't fun I would I would hit it. |
| 59:40.75 | Max Shank | But it sounds like yeah I mean it sounds like you got to that point where you were ah using your intuition and getting curious about it instead of just writing the momentum of like oh it's Friday let's all get drunk because that's just what we do and I think a lot of folks. |
| 59:52.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah now. |
| 01:00:00.12 | Max Shank | Maybe don't even like it that much. They just want to be liked so they'll do the thing that gets people to like them. You know, drinking can be a competition that you can win speaking of life as a game. |
| 01:00:04.36 | mikebledsoe | Well, it's. |
| 01:00:12.87 | Max Shank | As soon as I figured that out I was like hey I bet I could poison myself twice as fast as you motherfucker and that everyone's like yeah you did it. |
| 01:00:19.94 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, if you ever win a drink game. It doesn't It's never as cool as you think it's gonna be and a lot of people need that liquid courage. You know like it's the only way they can. It's like ah well it's it's it's well they have to like D It's like. |
| 01:00:34.52 | Max Shank | Be sexual. It's the only way they can like let their guard down. |
| 01:00:39.39 | mikebledsoe | It detaches them from themselves enough to where they can just kind of let loose. But anyways I digress I um so in 2013 I started eating way more psychedelic mushrooms and then after my None big psychedelic mushroom experience. |
| 01:00:44.50 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 01:00:56.66 | mikebledsoe | I cut out alcohol a hundred percent I |
| 01:01:00.40 | Max Shank | Dude, we should do a series of shows on a different substance every week guys. We're gonna start it. Nice and simple coffee week. One is coffee nice and simple week two. We bring out a little booze week 3 weed week 4 |
| 01:01:03.90 | mikebledsoe | Ah, it's not the None time I've heard this pitch. |
| 01:01:12.40 | mikebledsoe | I want to do it now I want to do it's a lead magnet. It's a lead magnet. We'll do 10 shows on 10 different substances and there's ah the lead magnet is that you can um you have to figure out which substance we were on. It's a mystery. |
| 01:01:17.14 | Max Shank | Okay, we're going to go in Spain. |
| 01:01:31.10 | mikebledsoe | During the show and if you can match it up successfully you get a prize. Yeah, you have to like you know label it. There's gonna be 10 shows 10 substances definitely social security number. Um yeah I think that's a great idea. So. |
| 01:01:32.90 | Max Shank | Um, and you only get None guess. You got to enter your social security number. |
| 01:01:49.87 | mikebledsoe | Started eating mushrooms and I cut out alcohol completely and I was the guy you know I owned the gym I was I had a a house with a big backyard at a pool and you know I I bought the house because it was a great place to entertain guests. So I'm throwing these parties I got a keg in the backyard like we're doing everything. |
| 01:01:52.25 | Max Shank | A. |
| 01:02:08.74 | mikebledsoe | I'm not drinking and it's not 1 those things where I'm like I'm trying not to drink is just like I really just don't give a fuck about having a drink at all like someone can hand me a beer and it's like 0 desire. Yeah. |
| 01:02:09.43 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 01:02:20.10 | Max Shank | But well you got something better something that that suits you better. That's what it's about right? It's like let's get intuitive about the different medicines that we're applying. |
| 01:02:28.91 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and so I just remember this one afternoon I've got a bunch of people in my house were standing in a circle. Everyone's got a red solo cup in their hand I'm drinking water and I'm happy as a clam. And I probably smoked a little bit of weed. Um, but I kept on trying to have conversations that had way more depth than what I would have when I was on alcohol and I just remember people looking at me weird I Remember people getting uncomfortable and walking away and it was. |
| 01:02:54.51 | Max Shank | Or you can. |
| 01:03:06.10 | mikebledsoe | It was all of a sudden there was this barrier between me and the people who I had been getting drunk with for years and having a good time with and when I look back and I go oh I just wasn't meeting their expectation of who they believe Mike Bletzo to be. They didn't know what to do with me and in fact. |
| 01:03:20.41 | Max Shank | Inhale. |
| 01:03:23.72 | mikebledsoe | Probably didn't weren't that interested in talking to me because they were wanting to talk to a guy that was more like who I was behaving like and so. |
| 01:03:31.56 | Max Shank | And I mean your cells are all changing except for like neurons basically throughout your whole life. They're they're dividing and dying and dividing and dying. They're going through this process of death and rebirth and so. |
| 01:03:38.33 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:03:50.75 | Max Shank | If most of your cells are different seven years later wouldn't like you also be quite different seven years later and the fact of the matter is your brain and the pathways in your brain can change way way faster. |
| 01:03:57.28 | mikebledsoe | Absolutely. |
| 01:04:10.50 | mikebledsoe | Well yeah, the first was it in and exercise science I remember we were studying is like the majority of the results that people get in their performance in the first 12 weeks of training are due to new motor patterns new. It's your nervous system that's adapting. That's why you're that's why you got strong so fast. |
| 01:04:10.32 | Max Shank | Then like your bones and you. |
| 01:04:29.88 | mikebledsoe | After that now it has more to has less to do with the nervous system and more to do with the muscle mass or whatever other things that need to structurally change. But yeah, the nervous system can change really fast. Yeah. |
| 01:04:40.79 | Max Shank | Right? You're just using what you have better. You're just using what you have better when you get those neurological adapt changes adaptations. Yeah. |
| 01:04:50.12 | mikebledsoe | Thanks for putting in plain english. |
| 01:04:55.94 | Max Shank | Ah, fucking got me. |
| 01:05:01.69 | Max Shank | Um, and let's see we started with ah symbols and records and record keeping and now we're at the the record of your self which is in your Dna. Also we got your brain. |
| 01:05:11.47 | mikebledsoe | Yep. |
| 01:05:19.45 | Max Shank | Which is within your single life and then you got your Dna which is a long long very tightly bound record of all of the things that need direction for cell production. |
| 01:05:34.99 | mikebledsoe | That's ah, that's a great theory I think that that I think that's a a piece of it I've I've ah I've thought about this a bit the Dna thing yeah the Dna thing I think there's a lot we know about Dna I think that we can do a Dna test and we can find out our ancestry. |
| 01:05:43.29 | Max Shank | Um, tell me more tell me tell me more about it older we can match Dna we can match it. That's that's a good start. |
| 01:05:52.85 | mikebledsoe | Ah, figure out what part all that. But but here's a thing when they start looking at ah Dna of different ah species like humans have more their Dna has more in common with like some insect I forget which one it is. |
| 01:06:05.58 | Max Shank | E. |
| 01:06:12.57 | mikebledsoe | Then a fucking chimp and I look at that and I go we don't We don't know um wish I had it? Yeah please um there. Ah. |
| 01:06:18.24 | Max Shank | Um I don't know this one I'm going to fact, check this when the show's over. |
| 01:06:31.44 | mikebledsoe | Well I remember reading that story and I was like and people were like whoa. You know that's crazy I Go Yeah, that's crazy. It just tells me that we don't know nearly ah the amount that we think we know about what comprises who we are. Ah. |
| 01:06:49.35 | Max Shank | It's weird because we know almost nothing and we know a lot at the same time sometimes it's like the difference between knowledge and wisdom. It's like knowledge is knowing which Dna sequence is responsible for. |
| 01:07:06.34 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
| 01:07:06.94 | Max Shank | Sickle cell anemia. For example, like that's very, that's very consistent and repeatable so that would be something and be like oh yeah, that's that's pretty wild so there. That's how that basically happens right? and then there's also ah. Like way more that we don't understand about Dna I mean the way that it wraps itself up I think ah maybe Drew Barry Drew Barry is the Youtube channel you can watch like a little animation of. Dna moving around. |
| 01:07:46.15 | mikebledsoe | We're gonna be able to show that um I see animals that share human Dna sequences apes monkeys and humans um mice dogs chickens. |
| 01:07:49.81 | Max Shank | Oh man, Yeah, this is wild. |
| 01:08:02.49 | mikebledsoe | Ah, now it's just it's some article from some school. It wasn't very good information. |
| 01:08:04.59 | Max Shank | Does it show the different percentages because I'm guessing a chimp is more than a chicken. |
| 01:08:13.61 | Max Shank | But that's the record that's been kept basically that that's the record of how to direct resources I mean that's the record that's being played. That's the record that's being played. |
| 01:08:18.96 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it is a record it is a record what my my my my thing is it's not in ah in the narrative. Well I would say. |
| 01:08:31.24 | Max Shank | No, that's the record that's being played in your body is your Dna is unzipping and rezipping itself up to make stuff. |
| 01:08:37.50 | mikebledsoe | Well I would just I would just say it's a record not the record I think there's way more. There's some shit we don't know. |
| 01:08:43.40 | Max Shank | Um, tell me more. There's like a little chip in my Pineil Gland or something like that like a calcium I don't know either. |
| 01:08:51.19 | mikebledsoe | Maybe I don't know I don't know what it is but I think it's I think it's a lot I think it's a lot safer like I think there's plenty of evidence and evidence to show that Dna There were so many things that they thought that would be solved by ah, sequencing the genome. |
| 01:09:10.50 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 01:09:10.85 | mikebledsoe | And none of it came true and it's because it's it's I don't think it's telling as big of a story as they once thought it was going to be telling So I I think I think there's something Beyond Dna that is still yet to be discovered. That's going to. We're going to find plays a much bigger role. |
| 01:09:18.79 | Max Shank | Um, you know why. |
| 01:09:28.81 | Max Shank | Oh my gosh. |
| 01:09:29.26 | mikebledsoe | So I just like to hold that perspective because that's the perspective that keeps people looking and being curious versus saying that you know this is the this is the one and only true god. |
| 01:09:35.68 | Max Shank | E. Well here's how I would say it here's how I would say it is Dna is the ah program that's being run but there are a lot of factors that determine how your Dna is expressed how it's bound up. It's packaged whether we're going to copy this part of the code or that part of the code it changes based on how much sunlight you get it changes based on the different hormones that are working in your body I mean you have all of these different pieces playing together and so. To take back. Take it back to you know some semblance of objectivism. It's clear that the way you think the way you label things the way you um, retell tell and retail different experiences has an influence. On your physical body including the way your Dna is expressed so that's epigenetics right? So after you're already alive you have this relationship to your environment that's in a state of constant flux and your body. Just always like yeah we'll adapt to that we'll adapt it and it's happening so many times on such a small level that you can't really track it um, but just to keep it very practical. What you think is influencing ah the hormones it's influencing your digestion it's going to influence. How your Dna is expressed same thing with sunlight so there are all these external factors and what I'm getting to is from a practical standpoint you got to just start out with a few things that are really big boosters. You know things that very clearly. Lift you up to a higher state. Ah not necessarily drugs but it could be drugs that lifts you up to a higher state right? That's going to be what to that's going to be what determines your life. Basically. |
| 01:11:41.72 | mikebledsoe | Temporarily. |
| 01:11:45.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and I like to think about it and um, we have we have states and then we have stages and like states are things that we we visit like we may have like a state of consciousness. It's like oh that's temporary. Your state is changing. |
| 01:11:57.57 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:12:04.38 | mikebledsoe | All the time it changes if you if you breathe really shallow and fast versus breathing really deep and slow that's going to change your state Now that's going to make an impact on how you perceive things. Um up. |
| 01:12:11.85 | Max Shank | A. |
| 01:12:17.94 | Max Shank | And how should you breathe. How should how should you breathe I mean it's like nutrition. Ah you should never breathe through your mouth or you should breathe through your mouth every day as fast as possible. Yeah. |
| 01:12:22.50 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
| 01:12:36.38 | Max Shank | You should always breathe as slow as possible or you should never hold your breath and never strain your breath I mean I can I can follow. Ah, the logic of most of those recommendations and they totally contradict each other. So once again, no wonder things are confusing the superstitions are all over the map in terms of how we should eat how we should manage our finances how we should move how we should even fucking breathe so that. Is probably what makes that simplicity so attractive. |
| 01:13:12.35 | mikebledsoe | You just made me want to look up the etymology of superstition. So I feel like that's like a very accurate way of talking about we tomorrow superstition. Um. |
| 01:13:28.30 | Max Shank | Alternate definition language you're fucked you just hit the center. The first use of superstition was just called language. It's like the snake eating its own tail I don't know what you're going to think you're going to find. |
| 01:13:30.95 | mikebledsoe | And I say what. |
| 01:13:40.96 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, ah was a ah. |
| 01:13:45.12 | Max Shank | I Means you you know Green Monkeys You know Green Monkeys have different calls for whether a hawk is coming or a tiger is coming and they will lie so that the other monkeys will look away so they can steal a banana. |
| 01:13:59.56 | mikebledsoe | A. |
| 01:14:03.75 | Max Shank | That's superstition hey look out. There's an eagle up there. Maybe that's not quite superstition. |
| 01:14:06.90 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well. The definition here is an irrational belief that an object action or circumstance not logically related to a course of events influences. Its outcome number None a belief practice or right irrationally maintained by ignorance of laws of nature or by faith and magic or chance. And None a fearful abject state of mind resulting from such ignorance or irrationality man. |
| 01:14:30.84 | Max Shank | Kind of back to curses on that last's definition the first one ah is just like a skinner box. Um, they did a lot of and experiments with a skinner box. Bf Skinner was the guy's name and they put a button inside the box. And they put a little feed thing and the feed thing was not connected to the button. It was just on a timer but the pigeon I think builds an association with the button in the food. So. It's just fucking pecking this button nonstop because it has now. Ah. Has this superstition that if it hits the button the right way or enough times that the food will come out but it's just on a timer and then what's funny is this guy who did a show called mind field and he did a show called vsauce before on Youtube pretty huge channel actually he did the same thing with people. In a box and a dollar bill dispenser and it worked the same way. So so people are just like hitting this button that doesn't do anything and dollar bills are coming out on a timer and they're hitting it different ways and it's like man we think we're so different than these other animals and we are but we we are super different and we're. |
| 01:15:42.89 | mikebledsoe | Now. |
| 01:15:49.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, ah the the use of the word superstitions I brought up I read this book a while back called most dangerous superstition or the most dangerous superstition by Larkin Rose |
| 01:15:50.98 | Max Shank | Like just the same. Yeah. |
| 01:16:08.21 | mikebledsoe | It's interesting because I won't tell people exactly what the superstition is but it's a easy read. It's like less than 100 pages and and it's it's good. It's good. It'll it'll change your thinking around some things. Ah, but. |
| 01:16:14.78 | Max Shank | You tease. |
| 01:16:25.37 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, that's my my book recommendation of the day speaking of superstition. It'll it it demonstrates. Ah it demonstrates how deep a superstition can get into a culture to where people just think that that's the way it is. |
| 01:16:27.40 | Max Shank | On. |
| 01:16:42.99 | mikebledsoe | And he he takes this one superstition and he just surrounds it and then something that you believe is actually necessary at the end you may think is not really that necessary. |
| 01:16:54.74 | Max Shank | Yo, let's get back to what's truly necessary that's a cluster fucking and of itself I mean how about how about the concept of a weekend that's just made up. We made that shit up. There's there's lunar cycles that shit. |
| 01:17:03.41 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, got yeah. |
| 01:17:13.94 | Max Shank | There's lunar cycles. There's solar cycles. There's days. There's years. There's months that shit makes sense a weekend a weekend. What the fuck is a weekend say we could look this up. But yeah. |
| 01:17:17.70 | mikebledsoe | Although the week is made up or the an entire week like once you once you get once you get down to like the lunar cycle then is the daily cycle I think it's just ah, some dudes got together and said you know we need to have. We need to split this twenty eight days after Twenty nine days up a little more ah huh yeah for working well and you know the the jews did it none with the the sabbath. You know you got one day off you, you don't do shit for one day |
| 01:17:37.67 | Max Shank | 5 on 2 off 5 on 2 offs like for working. Basically. |
| 01:17:53.58 | Max Shank | Um, I also thought it was weird that the the word weak is the same as the word weak like the opposite of strong and on the weekend you will be weakened. Oh really? yeah I'm sure there is but I don't know if it's. |
| 01:17:54.26 | mikebledsoe | And then. |
| 01:18:02.14 | mikebledsoe | There's a whole Youtube video on this. You'll be weakened. She also goes into and in the morning. What what are you mourning. |
| 01:18:14.14 | Max Shank | Totally I've been saying happy day to people I've been saying happy day to people for a while now because I noticed. |
| 01:18:15.22 | mikebledsoe | Did you lose something Did you have a loss. There's a there's a group people that say Grand rising. |
| 01:18:27.42 | Max Shank | Heavy I like it. Wow that sounds way cooler. No question. Ah. |
| 01:18:27.43 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, met with Grand rising instead of good morning. Yeah. |
| 01:18:37.38 | mikebledsoe | Ah, get some weird looks walk up the hotel Hotel desk Clerk Grand rising to you. Ah I think we should ah about that time to wrap it up. Ah. |
| 01:18:42.65 | Max Shank | Grand rising sounds like a Friday night type of Maneuver Grand rising um, yeah, why don't you why don't you let everybody know what the point of our conversation was today. |
| 01:18:58.62 | mikebledsoe | The point man to reduce the burden of your stories to to find the cure for your curses and to get more in touch with. |
| 01:19:02.76 | Max Shank | Are. |
| 01:19:14.32 | mikebledsoe | Reality even though none of us really have the opportunity to do that. |
| 01:19:17.76 | Max Shank | Um, thought we had some good stuff about intuitive accounting intuitive eating and intuitive movement and it kind of it kind of relates back to the superstitions thing that we closed out on so we have this idea. Ah, which is a beautiful concept of intuitive blank intuitive movement intuitive eating intuitive Accounting. Ah, but if you don't have that foundation ahead of time your intuition will just be very um, like easy easily Trickable. You'll be easy to trick and you're probably just writing the momentum of whatever superstition you were exposed to so whatever your environmental stimuli were you'll you'll just you know intuit on that. As opposed to building up that vocabulary and that also is going to make you feel more confident in what you do when you have ah when you can speak the language. You know that's kind of related to that concept of Fear. Really only being about the Unknown. So Um I think that actually works out pretty nicely. We have all these records Some of them are pure superstition. Some of them are observable and repeatable and that's really Cool. Um. But unless you get curious. You will probably just fall into superstition very very easily and yeah I think that's it the other the other part though is good. |
| 01:21:00.21 | mikebledsoe | I Like that if you're if you're not if you're not curious. You're susceptible to superstition. Yep. |
| 01:21:08.65 | Max Shank | And confirmation bias right? like both both of those are antithetical to curiosity and I I Really do think Man. Ah Curiosity is the way to um. Harmonize with the unknown in the future. It takes the future from something that you are afraid of to something that you are curious or perhaps even excited about and that relationship with the unknown is a big contributor to how someone ah participates. In the world. Be it A ride a game or a show or whatever. So um, you know we're full of superstitions get curious about it. We'll probably still die with a lot of superstitions that we still believe at the end of it all. |
| 01:22:04.35 | mikebledsoe | Except for max and I we're gonna be enlightened by the end. All y'all go check max out at http://maxschank.com and you can check out some of stuff I got going on over at http://thestrongcoach.com we got a summit coming up in. |
| 01:22:05.17 | Max Shank | But we'll do our best to get curious anyway. |
| 01:22:10.96 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 01:22:24.10 | mikebledsoe | Middle of September I recommend you come? Yeah, oh yeah, and oh yeah I got talk to you about that? Yeah there. Ya'll. |
| 01:22:25.30 | Max Shank | O Still got a few spots. Hu Ah, yeah, yeah, we'll talk later bye. |