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The Bledsoe Show

The show formerly known as "Bledsopia" On this podcast, you’ll learn from thought leaders who are dedicating their lives to being a positive force for your physical, psycho-emotional and spiritual health. Your host, Mike Bledsoe, seeker of truth & perpetual student, spotlights premier thought leaders in the fields of emotional & intellectual expansion, behavior change, sexuality & alternative medicine that empower you with the tools and inspiration to transform your mind, body, & spirit. Every week, this is your opportunity to get downloads from exceptional people that will guide you to the connections between your own source, to live your best life & enjoy the process.
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Jul 30, 2022

This week's episode is for courageous people only. The topics we discuss in it will challenge you as they touch on deep Truths that many would rather distract themselves from

 

If you’re like most people, you’d rather distract and delude yourself from the actual Truth than you would face it and overcome it. As a result, you’re likely living a reality that’s a few degrees removed from True Reality…

 

…and in doing so, you’re making things harder for yourself than they need to be as you cannot accept what “is” in order to resolve it and move past it

 

Listen in to this week’s conversation as Josh Trent and I share personal experiences that have taken years to accept and work through, to Universal Laws and Truths that humanity is slowly waking up to

Jul 25, 2022

00:00.00

Max Shank

All right? Welcome back to Monday morning with max and Mike we're talking about launch pads. We're talking about ramps. We're talking about Trebuches. We're talking about flinging things a mighty distance this applies to both physics and also business That's what I'm excited about. I don't want to go out there and go fishing. You know one pole at a time I want to be able to deliver a tremendous payload at a great distance. You know what I mean and have it create a very massive effect. But in order to do that. You got to spend a lot more time with the building of it. It's like fishing pole pretty easy to build water wheel significantly harder to build but greater impact lot more work ahead of time and then you take it all the way to something like a rocket which can or a power plant. Can deliver a tremendous amount of power but it requires a huge amount of upfront work and because I've done a lot of biz coaching with people I feel like that that is the number None thing that. Separates people who create an exponential growth in their business is the ones who are willing to do the setup time to make something that is a more sophisticated leverage and force multiplier. You know what? I'm saying.

01:27.51

mikebledsoe

Yeah I Think the None thing you got to consider in that case is does what you want to build actually solve a problem and um I think a lot of people you know think I think a lot of people start businesses based on something they Like. Or something you know around what it is that they want to do which works sometimes because they figured out. They've solved some problem for themselves and they they can help other people through a product or service. Um, but I'm a big fan of of seeing if it's the right Poll. Before I go launch a hundred of them like I don't want to put the wrong bait on my hook I could be I could be catching the wrong fish or I could be catching no fish at All. So I would use one pole make.

02:16.13

Max Shank

I like I like the fishing analogy. The fishing analogy is good because people are about as smart as fish.

02:24.18

mikebledsoe

Ah, it's true. Ah so no, but like it's good to put figure out if if it you know test with one poll or maybe test with 20 polls all with different bait. What um, keeps popping off is now we're pulling the hooks out and we're replacing all them with that one Bait I think that. That's like the I've been thinking about the business as ah, especially like a coaching business as a triangle at the bottom you have you have your offer and then one of the sides is marketing and the other sides is the fulfillment. The coaching aspect. Find that most people and the way this would work is like what are you selling? How do you market it and then how do you fulfill on it whether it's a coaching business or not and.

03:12.98

Max Shank

Ah, right? How do you? How do you educate them about it and how do you get it to them. So like the bottom is what is it and then one side is how do you tell the right people about how do they know about it and then how do you get it to them I like it.

03:19.16

mikebledsoe

Right.

03:25.32

mikebledsoe

Exactly exactly so but I find them I know you do triangles are the best sturdy pointed can penetrate well and super hard to tip over.

03:31.46

Max Shank

Also I like triangles.

03:36.87

Max Shank

So I mean they're not hexagons. But they're really cool.

03:44.95

mikebledsoe

Ah, so well depends on what kind of time go with oh let's hear it.

03:46.11

Max Shank

You know my favorite ah Buckminster Fuller joke he's ah he goes ah is well. It's more of a statement I guess he goes. Ah why do architects build square houses. So engineers can put triangles in them.

04:08.49

mikebledsoe

I I like it I like it. Yeah yeah, tons of triangles. Yeah, None of triangles. Yeah yeah, without that your shit's going to get fucked up. So um.

04:10.73

Max Shank

And if you you've done a bunch of house framing and stuff like that too before right? So you have these rectangle boxes that are just full of triangles. You better have those fuckers in there.

04:28.22

mikebledsoe

Well, it just won't even look right.

04:31.44

Max Shank

No oh it's going to go over without some triangles in there. Yeah.

04:32.86

mikebledsoe

Just kind of push it over Ah yeah, so I like thinking about this because I more often than not when I bump into an entrepreneur either a new entrepreneur or an entrepreneur suffering None times out of None It's the the bottom. Part of the pyramid. It's the offer. It's the it's the what they're selling. Um, yeah, yeah sand at the beach. Yeah, and so so somebody you know it's like somebody has these air things people think that it's a marketing problem.

04:55.12

Max Shank

Sand at the beach like why would you want to do that to yourself. Ah yeah.

05:10.66

mikebledsoe

And I'm like it's not a marketing like does anyone want what you're selling in the None place when it's not a marketing problem like your offers should be the thing you're offering should be an obvious solution if it's not obvious solution then there's more work to be done there. Um, some people in business would say that the development of the offer is a function of the marketing department. Which I don't necessarily disagree disagree with but so is the fulfillment. They kind of all bleed into each other. Yeah, So so if you so if you nail down a solid offer and then you just.

05:33.74

Max Shank

I Think marketing marketing is part of the offer for sure. Yeah.

05:49.30

mikebledsoe

Funnel as many people towards that that one offer not now you got a winning formula.

05:53.48

Max Shank

Well, and even even better. Is you you set up your shop within a current flow of consciousness directed at that specific thing and I mean Youtube has been a game changer in this because. There's just such a bigger library of things that are searchable if you have questions that need solving and if you if you meet people where they're at and you match their pace. They don't notice that you're a fisherman. Basically you just kind of enter the conversation that they're already having.

06:16.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

06:31.96

Max Shank

And the the finesse of that offer is really.. It's the same as seduction for the most part. That's why so many of these great copywriters were like pickup artist stuff before then because it's all about getting someone from I don't know. To yes, right? And so however, you craft that that story that is entering that person's mind is going to guide their next decisions.

07:02.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, what are we talking about toy forgot about our topic since you made it you may you you made it up. Ah oh yeah, oh.

07:09.95

Max Shank

Triangles we were talking about lot. No no, we were talking talking about launch pads launch pads rocket ships trebute none fishing from fishing poles to ah nuclear power plants. Ah we're we're just trying to eat and fuck right. That's really what it comes down to we want to make sure that we're safe. We want to get enough calories. We want to continue our genes we we insist that the genes get carried forward every animal and plant is like None sure about that part of the equation like definitely more of us and we just that's life baby more of us. Ah so it's all about energy. It's all about conserving calories. It's always it's also about um, expanding the mass.

07:49.71

mikebledsoe

That's life. Yeah I.

08:05.26

Max Shank

Of the tribe which is also like a stored energy kind of calorie thing. It's like ah it's like the size of the tribe is your energy bank and actually in dune they talk about how the tribe shares the water ah like everybody shares all the water and then if 1 guy dies they suck the water out and like it's all about.

08:07.27

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um. Yeah, about if.

08:23.63

mikebledsoe

Well, it's ah yeah I mean unless you have a tribe where half of the tribe ah is useless Now that's a drain on the energy.

08:24.97

Max Shank

Just ah pooling those re pooling those resources.

08:36.65

Max Shank

True but that has happened for a long time I mean we we ah well and it's and it's ah it's uncertain of what the utility is in some of those cases like ah, there's that grandmother idea where there's the wisdom that.

08:40.64

mikebledsoe

I Know that's why I bring it up.

08:56.24

Max Shank

Passed on like why would I'm not saying this to be crude, but like why would a lady stay alive and go through Menopause like why would they stop being able to bear children and maybe it's ah like physical. Ah. Power but I think ah that is only exhibited and I think like Orcas and elephants. There aren't that many creatures that go through Menopa and maybe chimps. Also I can't quite remember exactly but it's this idea that there's a ah huge value to.

09:25.88

mikebledsoe

Um.

09:33.55

Max Shank

Them teaching the next generation how to do stuff and with orca they have different hunting techniques based on where they live they have different languages between these different pods. So there's a utility that's not strictly. Ah, hunting gathering or procreating. But I know what you're talking about too. It's like the bigger the percentage of freeloaders are the heavier. The wagon gets and it's still and a simple energy equation right? If you have one ah hundred kilograms in the wagon and you have None guy pulling. It's. Totally fine. But if you suddenly have ten Thousand Kilograms unless it's very ah, good piece of machinery that None guy won't be able to move it.

10:15.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it feels like that's where we're at now. So a bunch of people are just jumping in the wagon and not pulling it. But I'm not yeah and um, while'm not blaming them I get it I get it. Well here's the thing. Ah if you lack if you lack.

10:25.46

Max Shank

Um, hard to blame hard to blame. Yeah yeah, who would very few wouldn't do that.

10:35.90

mikebledsoe

If you lack the skills to demand a certain amount of money I mean this is what happens we're in inflation right now and but like.

10:42.82

Max Shank

Oh God here we go again. It's all it's all just about show me a better offer. That's what it's about because if so to be a freeloader to be a freeloader. It's got to be a better offer than the other thing that you are thinking about doing.

10:48.50

mikebledsoe

It. It's It's exactly right.

10:55.85

mikebledsoe

Exactly always goes back to incentives with you as well. But the thing is what we have is ah the cost of living is outpacing salaries. So it's not like people's salaries are inflating at the same rate that that's historically.

11:00.75

Max Shank

Totally.

11:14.28

mikebledsoe

Been untrue. So like what is true is that the salary state. You know you'll get a 1% raise and you get your dopamine hit and you stick with it but inflation is 10% and so your lifestyle keeps decreasing the people at the top get more money and then so I think a lot of people are just like.

11:15.00

Max Shank

Right? ah.

11:29.48

Max Shank

Right? Well if.

11:34.22

mikebledsoe

Why I can't pay my bills at Fifteen Twenty dollars an hour I can't pay my bills so why work you know it's so I get it.

11:38.50

Max Shank

Right? right? Don't totally I there's like ah a Bob Newhart joke from like a really long time ago where he talks about working at the ah unemployment office and. He it didn't take him too long before he realized that he was handing out these $60 checks and he was only getting fifty bucks a week and he had to he had to be there all week I mean this has been going on for a long time and the thing that has increased people's quality of life has been technology and maybe quality of life is actually a stretch because I think that you can perhaps live a much higher quality of life with some lower tech.

12:26.57

mikebledsoe

Well ah, technology technology allows us to leverage its leverage to increase power. So if you put the if you put power in somebody's hand who's going to make choices that don't take them towards a higher quality of life. They're actually going to go to a lower quality life.

12:29.52

Max Shank

Even though you know there are people you know what I mean exactly more leverage.

12:45.88

mikebledsoe

Much faster and because there's dopamine that's associated with the tool the technology the dopamine will create the illusion that their lifestyle is improving because now they got a fancier phone or whatever the fuck or more people like their their photo today.

13:01.21

Max Shank

Um, well they're using that tool but they're just using it at a very like low level way.

13:05.46

mikebledsoe

Ah, and so so like they think they think that having the tool They think that having the tool is the increase in quality of life when it's the thing that can increase the quality of life exactly.

13:20.52

Max Shank

It's not the tool. It's what you do with it. That's what like all like every every girl I've ever met has always said that to me, it's not about the tool itself. It's what you do with it. But.

13:26.56

mikebledsoe

Um, and making you feel better. How the yeah so that's it's not the size of your tool max.

13:33.14

Max Shank

Ah, yeah I don't know I don't know why I Assume it's ah like this with everybody. That's what I've been told I've been told that so much so much I Wonder if it is though if they're just saying that like. I Just meet all of the most considerate ladies ever. Is there a common denominator here that I haven't considered who so so we're talking we're we're we're talking.

13:54.66

mikebledsoe

Ah, oh he's going into reflection folks. Ah, we'll see him back in a week absolutely

14:05.93

Max Shank

We're talking money though. Also right and the size of your wallet is way more important than the size of your genitals fellows for the record fat guys with tiny cocks fat old guys with tiny cocks are out there right now with the most beautiful women in the world If that's your if that's your thing.

14:11.11

mikebledsoe

When it when it comes to getting getting and having ladies.

14:23.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

14:25.19

Max Shank

You know Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But the truth is how you do professionally and how you ah carry yourself is going to be way more important and that kind of leads us back to the launch pads. It's this. It's the same kind of thing. Can you defer the gratification.

14:33.11

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you know I um.

14:43.72

Max Shank

To build what is necessary so that it has its its own momentum without you pushing it all the time and I think that's what what everybody wants or at least everybody I think maybe should want is something that.

15:00.25

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's um, man see if I can find it real quick. Nope Um I was thinking about the ah the myth of it takes money to make money. There's like that that famous phrase.

15:00.60

Max Shank

Can sustain itself.

15:16.61

mikebledsoe

It's a meme that floats around in in our culture and it's It's not true. It's ah you need resources to make money and money is also a byproduct of using those resources well and ah you are your primary resources.

15:16.79

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

15:36.53

mikebledsoe

Um, are basically your ability to observe critically think and problem solve and most people I bring that up because I don't want people to get stuck in the way of thinking that oh I need to have money before I can make money because I think a lot of people. Or or in that mentality by that's exactly right? It's exactly right? So I think that there are certain common phrases out there that are almost intended to keep people from being successful and that's one of them.

15:56.89

Max Shank

I Need to lose some weight before I join the gym.

16:09.15

Max Shank

Oh almost or certainly I mean there's mind control everywhere um depends how deep you want to go down that rabbit hole. But even just ah like let's say regular Tv especially as a dude.

16:12.46

mikebledsoe

Most certainly? yeah yeah.

16:27.99

Max Shank

It's like how many Tv shows have you seen in your life where the father was a powerful figure with a good set of values and a good. It's ah it's never that it's like some whiny bitch. It's like some whiny bitch like.

16:39.83

mikebledsoe

Not since the early sixty s.

16:47.15

Max Shank

Who's always like oh can we have sex wife and the wife never wants to and the guy always does and in reality and in reality in reality. It's like as soon as you get to that age. It's the exact fucking opposite. Are you kidding me like None 50 year old ah in a couple.

16:50.10

mikebledsoe

That is interesting I never thought about that.

17:06.69

Max Shank

It's not going to be the guy who's like scrounging for it all the time he's done. It's just it's just a funny ah example where it's not just the commercials. It's just it's not like those rap videos and all that stuff That's ah mind controlling us. It's even um.

17:09.82

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

17:26.61

Max Shank

Like a Tv show where that's your model that you see and believe and now you think oh that's normal. Not this other thing and whatever you think is normal. That's what you're going to like reinforce.

17:32.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah I've thought I've thought about this is I remember the first movie I went and saw in a theater I was five years old I don't remember seeing it but my mom told me that the first movie I saw was bambi and.

17:49.51

Max Shank

Ah.

17:51.43

mikebledsoe

And like I remember growing up and hunting and then people were like oh but you're going to kill bambi you know and I and I was always like well yeah I mean and I think that ah Disney movies are probably primarily responsible for veganism. At this point.

17:58.67

Max Shank

If yeah.

18:09.57

Max Shank

What whoa somebody saved that clip Jesus What a claim is off the wall I Love it go on.

18:09.76

mikebledsoe

Is and.

18:13.35

mikebledsoe

Well but it's well I mean so if we're talking about mind control and programming how many Disney films have talking animals that have the consciousness of human beings right? And so now what you have is a bunch of adults that think that the animals. Are equal to humans and there's nothing different about the 2 of us and they're people too and these are the types of things that you would most people would never be able to come to that conclusion unless they were None None 3 4 5 none watching animals talk and. This and that I'm not saying that animals don't think and don't have feelings and all that stuff but they're not us.

18:57.89

Max Shank

I think the main difference is the talking thing I was thinking about this the other day like for example, it's okay, in some cultures to to eat ah a dog right? and and here it's totally okay to eat a pig. And right now that's fine. But if you were to have sex with a pig people would I think that's illegal I think it's ah or at least frowned upon if it's not illegal if it's not illegal. It's at least frowned upon in today's day and age it's because there are a lot of bigoted people out there who are discriminating against the yeah.

19:22.57

mikebledsoe

I Think it's too legal.

19:36.84

Max Shank

Beastie Alllet Tours I don't know whatever now picture this tomorrow tomorrow. You know what really grinds my gears is that Ah now imagine tomorrow Switch flipped pigs can speak english.

19:38.39

mikebledsoe

Got a bone to pick max. Um.

19:52.54

mikebledsoe

Ah.

19:56.22

Max Shank

My guess is that the rules would exactly flip I think if pigs could speak English It would be perfectly legit to have sex with them and not okay to eat them anymore I think it's all about whether they can communicate.

20:08.35

mikebledsoe

Well that that falls right in line with the Disney thing if you're witness lobsters having conversations with squirrels then you know like I can see what could happen for you anyways.

20:23.13

Max Shank

Which one was the lobsters and the squirrels.

20:27.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah I was mixing up my movies. So the back to the triangles and fishing poles the the max and I were talking about right before the show is we we would like to put together something. People are listening to this show. They like it I've gotten a few dms of people offering to send us money which we still haven't set up the donation page yet, but it'll get up eventually and um, watch should be None of those things where.

21:00.56

Max Shank

Please please I'm hungry Please I'm hungry I'll eat I'll eat food.

21:02.10

mikebledsoe

Thousands of dollars start rolling in and I'm like ah I should have set this up max is he's he's losing weight a pound a week right now he's gonna be nothing here by by Christmas and.

21:18.89

Max Shank

I'm going on a food strike until those donations start rolling in. There's no way I'm doing that. Ah, okay, so we got the triangle We got the offer.

21:22.57

mikebledsoe

No, ah so ah so I'm curious I'm curious about what it is that people people want I'm always curious about what is it that people want. Yeah oh well, a I look both.

21:36.60

Max Shank

Our listeners or or all people. Okay I'll tell you what they want it goes back to um my my 3 levels theory here lizard mammal wizard people.

21:41.99

mikebledsoe

Both So okay, let's go.

21:56.32

Max Shank

In Lizard mode. They just want to be safe. They just want food. That's it. They're stuck and if you don't get out of that lizard Brain Mode. You're fucking lizard and you might thrash Around. You might have some sharp fangs and claws. But you're not going to fuck around with love or self-actualization which are the. Higher orders of thinking right? you go to the None tier which is the Mammalian brain the mammal wants to be loved So the lizard wants to be safe. The mammal wants to be loved and of course people will try to substitute ah food for love if they can't find it. At that level. So Let's just go back a step and so if people can get love I'm just always shoveling ice cream trying to fill the void in my heart with frozen cream out of a cow. Ah I Love it. Okay, so.

22:36.72

mikebledsoe

This explains your ice cream habit.

22:54.55

Max Shank

You get love as a mammal.. That's what you want and if you can go even beyond that your Self-actualization. You're following your Bliss. You're finding the intersection between doing what you feel totally blissed out doing you're in a flow state and it's good for the tribe. And you're safe. All that stuff is happening. You feel like you are expressing your most authentic or unfiltered self that feels good and of course in order to get to that point you usually need to be safe so secure The lizard Love the mammal. Free The Wizard. That's what people want and the form it takes can be different. Um you know sex and food and whatnot.

23:39.39

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that's what they that's what people want they want they want safety love and after that it's yeah, um, be their best self.

23:48.30

Max Shank

Self self actualization legacy. Maybe yeah.

23:53.72

mikebledsoe

Find a lot of people hit self-actualization and want to help other people get the self- actualualization but don't There's not enough people. It's like we've had ah we've hit a tipping point or like ah we've slid back in society a bit good correct. Yeah enough people. There's not enough people that are.

24:03.22

Max Shank

What do you mean? there aren't enough people who are trying to self-actualize or.

24:13.44

mikebledsoe

At that point I think with the last couple years. Ah people slid back into survival and so a lot of a lot of the ah lot of people stopped spending money on things that were more in alignment with self-actualization and started.

24:15.61

Max Shank

Ah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

24:31.61

mikebledsoe

Buying more toilet paper now now we're in a depression.

24:32.70

Max Shank

Word totally and it's interesting. How the word so closely mirrors the way that people feel when they're um, less Expressive. I Really hone in on that juxtaposition or that comparison between um, shoot I Just lost my train of thought depression expression. Yeah, exactly so being able to fully express yourself like I have a little note Card. It's just a.

24:53.33

mikebledsoe

A.

24:58.85

mikebledsoe

Depression expression.

25:09.97

Max Shank

A small list. It's in ah, a copy of the doubtaging. It's like pocketsized and I realized a while ago for business for fitness the the list of of stuff should be pretty short overall like the general list that you follow through on and for me, it's like. Have sing I have dance I have climb I have swing like a sword or a rope or something like that. So I Just have these like little bullet points. Basically for what I want to do on a daily basis and the more I sing and dance the more expressive I feel and the less. Feel like filtered or damped down and the word expression itself is all about standing out. So It's like to stand and to be like expressed and it's um, it's important to harmonize that I think with.

25:50.59

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

26:07.40

Max Shank

A feeling of oneness So like the exact opposite of expressing this expressing this unique ah sensation of an individual self and sync back in to the all-encompassing soup.

26:20.92

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it can be done takes practice hold both. Um.

26:27.51

Max Shank

Oh yeah, you were talking about how we're in a depression now and I don't know if it's that far yet. It's not ah I'm like.

26:35.24

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, there's there's more jobs available than there are people willing to work the jobs and.

26:42.56

Max Shank

Now that that sounds like Greece a few years ago where it was like 50 I don't know if there's exact statistics but it was like just an overwhelming amount of people who were working in the government and an overwhelming amount of people who were just getting paid by the government and there was like nobody left who wanted to work.

26:57.69

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well there I think it's just this. Ah this is one of those and this is just one of those times where you're.

27:02.23

Max Shank

And I get it.

27:09.65

mikebledsoe

In in business you have to be really good at having that solid offer you actually need to be solving a problem because I think yeah luxury items luxury services be the first to go.

27:18.50

Max Shank

The less necessary. It is the sooner. It goes gone depending on the demographic. Yeah, and then it almost never changes for them.

27:28.50

mikebledsoe

Um, unless unless you're serving the 1% and never changes well people.

27:36.40

Max Shank

It's more individual changes. It's like ah individuals slide in and out of the 1% but as a group the 1% is always there. They're always super wealthy and it always has been since alpha males.

27:44.64

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, in fact, even during it during it during a downturn. They become even more wealthy and that's.

27:52.55

Max Shank

Yeah, because they have the dry powder to be able to build rocket ships while you're just fishing furiously in the stream with your one pole because you're like fuck I I need to catch None fish today to feed my family I ain't got time to be building a fucking water wheel or a rocket ship or any of that. So you're just furiously swinging your pole in the water and what about him.

28:12.36

mikebledsoe

This makes me think about ah Jeff Bezos talk about a guy talk about a guy who like set the plan in place. He may not have known he was gonna do what he's doing now but he was a online bookstore.

28:23.60

Max Shank

Did. Amazing! amazing.

28:29.75

mikebledsoe

That just slowly added more and more categories of shit to sell and now oh no, they they probably dwarf any other retail. There's no retailer that stands a chance against them. So.

28:36.26

Max Shank

Here.

28:45.27

Max Shank

Um, they're so there's they have such incredible economies of scale because they can provide such a crazy value now right? They have that bulk.

28:52.97

mikebledsoe

Well I think I point that out because I think people think about scale before they think about solving the 1 problem he solved the 1 problem which is you can't find a book at your local bookstore right? once he once he crushed that then he had the ability to to scale. Both.

29:00.25

Max Shank

I see. Right.

29:12.87

mikebledsoe

Vertically and horizontally.

29:14.64

Max Shank

Yeah I mean I remember him saying once people never want something to arrive slower. They never want it to be more expensive and he's like we just basically focus on that and it's not quite like Youtube. Um, but he's connected the buyers and the sellers in a marketplace he is the marketplace and he's got such a huge market share and the delivery. So actually one of the sides of the triangle you were talking about which is the delivery.

29:37.87

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um.

29:53.11

Max Shank

Of that offer or that good or service to the person is I mean what's better. What's better. You can get it same day. You can get it 2 day for free and usually it's a pretty seamless process to return that shit like you go into a coles you fuck. They.

29:56.77

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the feature.

30:11.78

Max Shank

You print out a label 1 ne-click ordering I mean there's a lot of utility there and it's all software based for the most part that's what's so great because we know that's outrageous leverage and of course Youtube has created um, created a marketplace. Right? A media marketplace where the creators like you and I and the advertisers also like you and I but usually different things can ah basically work together to use that flow of consciousness. So. It's really, a.

30:43.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah Youtube Google Facebook Instagram yeah.

30:48.56

Max Shank

Oh my god Youtube is such a home run. That's like the most insane I'm so hot on Youtube as a user and as a creator because like the videos I've put up five plus years ago are still getting lots of views and those views a small.

31:01.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

31:07.84

Max Shank

Percentage converts into people who buy something from me and they're just there they're they're there like I don't even have to pay to have those things there like speaking of you don't need ah money to make money. Of course it's better to have more. It's easier to make money when you have a lot.

31:14.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, um.

31:25.63

Max Shank

Like that's always been the case you know so.

31:26.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah I want to go back to that the Amazon you're talking about people don't want things never want anything slower um in ah Alex hormose's hundred million dollar offers book which is one of the best books on offers I've ever read. Um, if if you're a coach. It's probably the. Like it. It very fits our industry but he talks about getting the 2 things that make something more valuable is speed and effort so less effort faster. An example that he uses in the book is. Why will so why would somebody spend $20000 on liposuction but have a hard time spending a couple thousand dollars on a trainer even though like it's obvious to everyone listening why you wouldn't want to get liposuction. But why can they charge that amount of money and there's.

32:20.79

Max Shank

The speed and the ease.

32:22.67

mikebledsoe

No, yeah, there's no um, shortage of people getting their fat rearranged by a surgeon. So.

32:31.97

Max Shank

Well, it's like a different value system for that individual right? So they think their time is valuable. They don't think that um the cost of having their body sliced open is too high right.

32:47.11

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

32:50.25

Max Shank

And they think and they believe the cost of exercising for a long time is is too high So simple cost right? It's simple cost benefit and when we talk about cost um calories in time are almost synonymous right? because without calories you're dead.

32:54.63

mikebledsoe

It's too expensive.

33:07.83

Max Shank

But you could also think of time as the resource and actually it's a little more practical to think of it that way like how many hours per day you can invest you have a fixed amount Yada Yada and then you have dollars and as far as. Investing is concerned mean your your stuff and your time is basically all you got right.

33:31.11

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so two things I've been thinking about in regard to offers recently I've been asking myself None questions. The none question entered my mind. Um as I was talking to a buddy who's in the cosmetics industry and he found. He found a product that if he walked into a room 80% of the women wanted his product and that got me thinking I go wow what is a product that if I walked in a room more than half the room would want it. So.

34:07.38

Max Shank

Just start hanging out with me. But um.

34:10.20

mikebledsoe

That's right, that's right? Ah, but there's there are certain products. Um you know, 80% of the people are using toilet paper 80% of the people drink water you know at least um at least 80% but yeah so like ah.

34:18.16

Max Shank

Wait only 80% do the ah I mean I guess some people use the wet wipes but like in America at least a lot of people wipe their ass with their hands.

34:29.50

mikebledsoe

Learnings We got bad days and wet wet wipes. Yeah in hand. Yeah yeah.

34:35.80

Max Shank

Also that yeah and hand for talking global. It's better to just focus on North America or America for the sake of these conversations right? That's where our audience is.

34:47.50

mikebledsoe

Most of them I think we had someone listening from Chad someone from Chad was listening yesterday I'll show you the stats. Yeah so Chad um the ah so I was thinking about like what is what is it that.

34:51.27

Max Shank

I apologize to all of our audience in Sudan fucking from from Chad no way that's funny. Ah.

35:06.49

mikebledsoe

That almost everybody wants to have and then and then a couple months ago I started asking myself the question of like how would I add a zero to every time I sell something how would I how do I make it 10 times more valuable. So.

35:22.97

Max Shank

Oh.

35:24.76

mikebledsoe

Some people may hear that and go how do I make it 10 times more expensive. No 10 times more valuable at least so valuable that someone had to have it so those are like 2 thought experiments I've had around offers I think that you know.

35:38.73

Max Shank

You have.

35:42.60

mikebledsoe

1 is what's the total addressable market. So how many people out there want or need yours and also looking at how many people are offering the same exact thing that also impacts the total addressable market. So if you can offer something that's truly unique. Your marketing doesn't even have to be that good that truly solves a problem.

35:51.67

Max Shank

9

36:01.49

mikebledsoe

And ah, a lot of people want it. It doesn't have to be that great and then um I think it's also much easier to create good marketing when you have that really special unique offer. Um and then also the thought experiment. I really like to do is the the 10 x how do I make this None times more valuable. What would what would that product or service look like for those people or what are those people spending that much money on. So if I go okay, what do people spend none on the majority of the market that spends that kind of money.

36:31.00

Max Shank

Oh.

36:39.37

mikebledsoe

Usually a home wine. Yeah so ah anyways, and then and then the other experiment too is what would your? what would your offer look like if it was a None of the price.

36:40.35

Max Shank

Wine.

36:47.13

Max Shank

Individual bottles.

36:55.47

Max Shank

Yeah I like the decimal. The decimal imagination is pretty good across the board for any of those like can we get it 10 times faster to them. Can we get the results 10 times faster can we make the experience last 10 times as long, you know all that.

36:56.65

mikebledsoe

What could you deliver.

37:11.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um, yeah.

37:14.78

Max Shank

Is ah it's a clean visualization for some reason it it expands way more than thinking of doubling it I mean of course mathematically.

37:19.44

mikebledsoe

Well doubling doesn't work doubling doubling doesn't work because people I believe that people's minds will start gravitating towards working twice as hard. It's It's a lot easier to work twice as hard that if I say.

37:32.10

Max Shank

Oh here.

37:38.36

mikebledsoe

the the 10 x thinking is a governor on how much work you can do because you can't work 10 times more than you're already working I mean unless you're only working an hour a da hour then then you could shut up max. But then.

37:46.62

Max Shank

Yeah I mean I could.

37:54.70

Max Shank

Ah, hey this is work is my work for the day.

37:55.57

mikebledsoe

But then um, yeah, there you go? Ah so so the 10 x thinking really does force people into a high leverage way of thinking. It's a higher order of thinking.

38:05.42

Max Shank

I agree. You also said something that I was just talking about yesterday which is huge is you don't want to identify with suffering I mean you can if you want to but I feel like it is a major inhibitor in the results you get. Because instead of your ah result being proportional to the result itself your your metric is how much you suffered and the ratio of how much you suffered to what you produced and I think that um holds a lot of people in a.

38:38.16

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

38:44.92

Max Shank

Really diminished state because the the value that they were taught either implicitly or explicitly is that suffering is the value. Not the value is the value and hey that's fucked and I'm sorry if that's you ah. But you can change your mind if you want to.

39:06.58

mikebledsoe

Ah, you're you're spot on. Yeah there there was a period of time where I didn't yeah.

39:13.72

Max Shank

That's what I learned I mean full disclosure. That's what I learned like if you suffer more you're more good and the reality is ah like that's kind of true historically like when we tell stories if a guy suffers a lot. We're like man that Martyr was a real badass. He got. Drawn and quartered for what he believed in or this guy got crucified for what he believed in I mean crazy right? So you don't want to identify with suffering. It's way it's way more It's kind of a ah weird selfish thing.

39:34.23

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, wild.

39:49.29

Max Shank

And if you really focus on solving a problem for somebody else. You'll recognize that your suffering is totally irrelevant except for the fact that if you suffer more you'll probably be able to produce less. So so.

40:00.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the um ah in my in my trainings a lot of times I have students they do a journaling about how about the the collapse distinction of sacrifice and service and.

40:16.62

Max Shank

Oh shit. That's a good one I hope you have that written down. It's nice. 1

40:19.67

mikebledsoe

Yeah, So there's yeah, there's there's this it happens a lot with people with military Backgrounds Blue Colar Backgrounds I mean such as max and I come come from these types of backgrounds and the idea is that. Sacrifices and service are like intermingled constantly in the language. So as you're getting older because here's the thing we learn definitions of words through context we don't sit Down. We weren't taught each word and sat down and. Go Oh Let's look at the dictionary so we learn everything through context and so unconsciously a lot of us when when people hear about service their mind automatically translate that to be associated with sacrifice as Well. And so.

41:12.82

Max Shank

Get right.

41:14.92

mikebledsoe

What ends up happening I see this a lot with mothers is if they like they they can't enjoy themselves because the moment they start enjoying themselves. They're not being a good mom. Yeah, exactly exactly So this.

41:18.34

Max Shank

Oh yeah, the Sufferin mama.

41:27.80

Max Shank

They're a bad mom. You're a bad mom. What are you fucking enjoying yourself bad mom.

41:34.74

mikebledsoe

This idea So I have everyone journal out you know, ah the definition of each go look it up just go look it out and write it down now. Can you have service without sacrifice. Can you have sacrifice without service. Yes, on both. So.

41:40.86

Max Shank

M.

41:50.24

Max Shank

Depends on how you define sacrifice 1 of the definitions I think for sacrifice is just ah like what are you? What are you paying right? I'm sacrificing this in exchange for this. So it really depends on the.

41:53.71

mikebledsoe

Um.

41:57.89

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well my friend Jesse just yeah well Jesse Elder defined the sacrifice is that you the difference between sacrificing and investing is.

42:07.32

Max Shank

The definition. So what you said is right? You just have to have it there.

42:16.53

mikebledsoe

A lot of times people use the word sacrifice when they're talking about giving up something now for something greater later and that's yeah and that's technically an investment. Not a sacrifice sacrifice is when you give up something for a lesser value. So that's.

42:21.74

Max Shank

Like in a chess game when you do a sacrifice for a gambit.

42:35.33

mikebledsoe

That's a distinction that he's created that I that I find to be really useful that may not necessarily be true, but it's a really useful way to think possible. What.

42:39.58

Max Shank

Um, you know I don't even know if it's possible to sacrifice something for a lesser value because in that moment you are making a value estimation. On what you're going to get out of this behavior. So I think you are always ah basically gambling. Um, it kind of is similar to yeah I think I mean people always do what they think is going to get them.

43:04.90

mikebledsoe

Ah, sometimes people know that they're gonna I don't know it's hard to say I. Well, let's get out.

43:15.94

Max Shank

The the most for the least if we want it if we want to simplify it down people want the most for the least and sometimes what they give up is not worth as much as what they got is like my friend Rob says is the fucking you're getting worth the fucking. You're getting.

43:32.52

mikebledsoe

Um, or going like this. Yeah.

43:33.84

Max Shank

Ah, ah what you made me think of you. What me? what you made me think of though um was why I think ah tolerance is the worst thing in the world I think being able to I think.

43:48.85

mikebledsoe

Dude you live in California you're supposed to be tolerant of everything everybody all the time you you should have a flat flat set of values. Everything should be the same value all the time.

43:52.76

Max Shank

No okay so go go ahead and lump lump me in lump me in with tens of millions of people in a sweeping generalization because I'm such a normal such ah because I'm such a normal fucking dude in the None place right.

44:02.66

mikebledsoe

I Just did I.

44:11.11

mikebledsoe

Ah.

44:12.38

Max Shank

Jesus fucking Christ so being able to tolerate physical forces. That's good. That's athletic, right? But when people tolerate something. Ah let's say psychologically or relationship. Wise it's ah it's one of the worst things you can do because you're not what you should do is you should reject it or you should accept it and I think people make the mistake of they tolerate. Which is like they're being wounded constantly and they build this resentment from this little barbed wound so you should either accept it fully or reject it but you should never tolerate never tolerate behavior you don't want accept it. Let it go or reject that shit.

45:02.91

mikebledsoe

Ooh.

45:07.80

Max Shank

Don't fucking tolerate. It's the work tolerant. You heard it here first. Tolerance is the worst thing for a relationship. That's what's up.

45:13.70

mikebledsoe

I Love it I Love it. You're right I like the acceptance or reject it. Tolerance tolerance is like I don't want to make a choice I don't want to. It's a lack of responsibility in the context your.

45:25.60

Max Shank

Um, yeah, no, it's even worse. It is a choice. It is a choice I'm gonna I'm gonna watch I'm gonna watch this thing that a person does and I'm not gonna like it and I'm gonna Harbor resentment because of it.

45:32.42

mikebledsoe

Well, every non-choice is a choice.

45:45.00

Max Shank

And it's going to feel like and it's going to feel like a perpetual cost is's going to feel like ah, a perpetual suffering. It's going to feel like a sacrifice. That's what made me think of it is like you're you're you're now in a psychological energetic debt because you are tolerating instead of accepting.

45:51.37

mikebledsoe

Ah.

46:02.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

46:04.66

Max Shank

And it's like that French phrase to know all is to forgive all like you know full acceptance is going to allow that energy to flow full rejection is going to allow you to flow your energy elsewhere but Tolerance is just this like parasitic energy leakage where nobody's winning. Out of that Deal. Tolerance sucks.

46:24.55

mikebledsoe

I Really I Really like that perspective. That's that's brand new for me I'm gonna write some things down. But I think that's just gonna be the title of the show is tolerant sucks.

46:41.64

Max Shank

I knew I stumbled onto something good here. This is a new thing for me too. It's when within the last week some headline shit. Yeah.

46:42.95

mikebledsoe

Yeah, some headline shit. Oh yeah, yeah, what did you? What did you? What caused you to stumble across this one. What we got you thinking on this. Do you remember you might be like me, you just wake up and you're like ah.

46:55.54

Max Shank

So my my my special lit I mean I'm kind of like Richard Feynman in that sense where like I just get a kick out of thinking about things I like to dance around with sticks and ropes and clubs and swords and that kind of shit. But.

47:06.10

mikebledsoe

Ah.

47:14.72

Max Shank

I also get a real kick out of just sitting in a big comfy chair and thinking about shit you know, but this time ah I was talking with my special lady friend. None of her friends. Ah, just recently broke up with her boyfriend right? And so. She went to go console this friend. She told me a little bit about what's going on nothing like no grizzly details or anything like that just in um, you know generalities. How do you interact and relate to another person and. You realize that it's ah it's rarely something like all at once that sends it to hell there is a straw that breaks the Camel's back but there's always something in the background that is being tolerated. That's the problem is like something has been tolerated instead of accepted or rejected. Accepted boom floodgates are open rejected boom the gates are closed and so as far as like ascribing fault to None party or the other like the the alleged offender or the one who's just quietly suffering those offenses. It's like. You got to take away that resentful tolerance and accept everything whole heart as it is or you got to reject it a little bit more forcefully and the longer those boundaries get ah, blurred and fuzzy and. You move your boundaries in and you feel resentment because now you're not really comfortable because your boundaries aren't where you'd like them to be um, it. It just seems so clear to me now even looking back at all my past relationships and I've never felt better about that. Personally because you just learn something from everybody and you appreciate the time for what it was and it's it's very easy to become ah resentful and I think that's ah all because of tolerance instead of acceptance or rejection.

49:21.30

mikebledsoe

Love it. Love it. Thank you for that one all right? What's have do with ah fishing poles. Yep.

49:24.63

Max Shank

And yeah, man, Thank you, You want to know so people often ah resent their circumstances and they tolerate their circumstances but they don't fully accept them either. And that's like having a big chip on your shoulder. Ah and and you're stuck in this ideology rather than just accepting where where you are here and now and realizing that what you have is here and now and whatever you have. That's what the fuck you have. And if you're like but that other guy has more. It's like Okay, yeah, yeah, he does so like a thousand years ago. The guy who had.

50:08.62

mikebledsoe

What are you gonna do about it anytime anyone complains about something I ask them? What are you gonna do about it and a lot of time that throws people off.

50:19.83

Max Shank

Um, well look. You should either be ah like asking for help or offering help Really if you're not sure what to do like ask for help or offer help You're not going to get anywhere.

50:29.63

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

50:35.87

Max Shank

By complaining unless you go into politics then you can get a tremendous amount you can actually get more power and money than anyone else in the world If you just come That's professional level complaining.

50:43.67

mikebledsoe

Could you imagine if if ah could you imagine? ah like ah a Ceo going out in the world and complaining for his marketing just going out there and complaining about shit.

50:59.28

Max Shank

Ah, Amazing. You can only complain as part of your marketing If. You're complaining about the state of the market I Can't believe how horrible this market is. That's why I came in here to change the game with my new and improved version of what this market is lacking like there's a., There's ah, there's a place for it for sure. But yeah I I think ah, you don't want to tolerate your situation you fucking accept it or you reject it and you come up with a new one. But I think I Really think Tolerance is like ah a really bad value. Ah, in the sense that we're talking about and in the sense of physical forces. It's one of the best ever means you can tolerate a huge amount of force without ah deform ah plastic deformation right? without breaking or deforming. So That's that's a good thing physically and then energetically acceptance not tolerance but acceptance so I think that applies to where people are in their lives. Professionally I think Also I think a lot about. A lot of acceptance is about seeing things for what they truly are and when it comes to putting an offer together. It's like it's great if you like something but it doesn't mean that other people have to like it and the same thing is true for like a solution that worked for you. It. It may not be the solution that everybody else wants and I think that's ah, that's how a lot of people get sucked into some sort of weird fanaticism or zealotry I'm trying to think of a less fancy word but they get they get really hyper about something. Because it really worked well for them and then they start basically using a hammer to bash down every screw that they find because they don't know the difference in what is being presented in that other person versus what happened to them. They're like oh my God I did hamstring curls and it cured my life. Everyone's doing hamstring curls and I've I've attended maybe 50 weekend seminars in my life. No. Well I mean as a student I've taught like 200 but I I would ah I would notice it in myself. I'd go to a seminar I'd come back and I would just be like parroting that shit I couldn't help it you know and as I started teaching more seminars I made more and more of a point to remind people to not just like brain dump.

53:31.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

53:46.65

Max Shank

Everything I told them on their new clients and think that you know it's a 1 ne-size fits all approach to everything.

53:50.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah I had a ah talk with a guy the other day where I told him just that in his marketing is focus on the benefits. Not the features. He had all these features it was revolutionary for him.

54:05.10

Max Shank

Revolutionary Revolutionary Revolutionary The features just need to be a bullet point to justify the price I think unless it's part of the story.

54:08.55

mikebledsoe

But it's well this is this is the problem. Well None problem is people are focused on the people people know the features and they think that if I they tell other people the features they're going to get the value of it but they need to hear the benefit they're going to get from the features. But the other thing is is going back to being in touch with reality I'm not sure. There's you know I think there's some coaches out there that are telling other coaches that you know they can make a million dollars you know following their their bliss type of thing. But.

54:45.90

Max Shank

Some of them some of them. Yeah.

54:47.64

mikebledsoe

Some of them some of them can and I think part of it is like some of them did and then they turn around tell people do the same thing but that doesn't always work. So for instance, yeah.

54:56.64

Max Shank

It's like multi-level marketing. It's like multi-level marketing like 90% of the people. Ah, it didn't have what it takes in the none place and did nothing with it and then a small percentage are like fucking rock stars and they're like. What is this an electric dildo some fancy antioxidant berry juice I'll sell None of them this month I'm on it. You know what? I mean it doesn't it doesn't matter even what it is. There's just that crew that will always do well. But.

55:14.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But I get for instance I'll get a I'll get a coach as I'm like um I'm like okay, what are your goals. Oh I want to be able to make x amount of dollars. I was like okay your business needs to make this amount if you want to take this amount home and there and then it's kind of like a oh shit and I'm like okay who's your who's your client like what type people are you serving is like well mma fighters in their early twenty s trying to go pro.

55:32.25

Max Shank

Well.

55:50.50

mikebledsoe

And I go Well do those guys have money. Do they have and and do they valueate? Yeah I mean and well I think most guys trying to go pro and mate don't have money I I.

55:54.28

Max Shank

Do they want this I mean a lot of them may have money but do they want it.

56:05.48

Max Shank

My experience is the same I used to want to train those guys like my gym at the very beginning because I was into all that shit I was like a fucking retarded testosterone out 21 year old when I started my gym I was I was fighting in the cage.

56:08.46

mikebledsoe

Okay, yeah.

56:25.37

Max Shank

Was like I am a tough motherfucker and I'm gonna fill this gym full of guys just like me and you know what those guys didn't pay a God damn thing those guys suck Those guys are those guys are always about like.

56:30.30

mikebledsoe

Yep.

56:39.51

Max Shank

Ah, dude I'll tweet you bro and I'm like oh Jesus fucking. It didn't take long for me to head down to the country clubs and swoop up some of the 45 to 65 range there are easier businesses and hard businesses. Let's just say it that way.

56:41.49

mikebledsoe

I'm great people.

56:46.79

mikebledsoe

Exactly exactly? Yeah, so like what I.

56:59.15

Max Shank

There are easier businesses. There are things that people already want and there are things that are a tough sell.

57:01.69

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well here here's the thing I I do 2 things for free. So I get.? Yeah yeah I did 2 things I have 2 offers for free that I give people and both of them tap into my expertise that I normally get paid for or at least used to get paid for and I am he ruined it as.

57:11.61

Max Shank

I'm excited by whatever these 2 things are going to be by the way. Ah.

57:25.76

Max Shank

Is it prostate massage is that one of them. Sorry.

57:31.23

mikebledsoe

Um, so I give these things away and I and I love it because I don't charge a dime for it whereas a bunch of other people are trying to figure out how to charge what I'm doing when I'm offering for free and the only reason I can offer it for free is because I have. Paying customers somewhere else people that actually do have money.

57:50.81

Max Shank

Oh shit, he's flexing on y'all right now I give away better stuff for free may maybe better. You don't always get what you pay for, but it's because you are so confident.

57:57.60

mikebledsoe

Well not yeah, probably but like maybe better you don't always get me pay for it.

58:08.12

Max Shank

In your ecosystem right? that you have created that once they experience something you've given them for free. You got None of value down the road right? no.

58:15.17

mikebledsoe

Well well here's the thing is thinking about like um, well yeah, maybe but actually I don't have a plan for it at all with the 2 things I like I have no plan for either None of these things to ever make money and these are. But types of thing people want to help people who it's charity. That's not really it's not it's not really charity um oh no, what? what? I give away for free is I do a Tuesday night workout for a handful of my buddies at my house.

58:32.25

Max Shank

Um, so it's so it's marketing. No fuck you. It's not char you it's marketing a free book is great marketing.

58:48.71

Max Shank

Oh that's nice. Yeah, that sounds great.

58:51.82

mikebledsoe

Right? And then we grill some meat afterwards and we kick it and they get world-class training. You know most of them never been exposed to like a coach that's been exposed to things I've been exposed to so they're getting their minds blown. They're learning more about their bodies for an hour once a week and.

59:09.18

Max Shank

I dig it.

59:10.76

mikebledsoe

I and I never care to train pay you know accept money for for physical training. So I do that So I give that away for free and then I give away which I give that to people who don't know that they could get training right? like they don't even know to go get it but because.

59:25.58

Max Shank

Right.

59:29.20

mikebledsoe

My friends I'm like come over to my house I'll I'll I'll treat you and then on Thursday mornings I have I meet with these guys who are blue collar and these guys could can't afford me for for the types of of advice and. Coaching that I would give but if they can figure out a way to make time out of their day at None a m on Thursdays I meet with them at the park. We kick it for an hour and I just help them with whatever it is. That's going on in their life. Well I just kept on coming across all these guys so like ah it was like I was getting like all these blue collar guys like.

59:59.36

Max Shank

No kidding How do you set this one up.

01:00:08.40

mikebledsoe

I'd be at a cafe student just couldn't stop talking to me so I was like I Well I guess I'm not supposed to work' going to supposed to talk to this guy. So I talked to this guy I'm like oh you start sharing his problems with me is like I don't know why I all a sudden look like a a target for other people's problems. But then.

01:00:16.86

Max Shank

Ah.

01:00:26.97

mikebledsoe

I Got a guy that came to saw saw me solar and you know the the conversation turned and he needed some help so I was able to give him some help and then another guy I met ah you know at the at the gym same thing like you know he's he's. Somehow what opens up to me and starts talking and then so I got these guys and I'm like look if you have any of your other friends that you know and some of these guys are dealing. You know they're dealing with some heavy like legal stuff and all sorts of crazy shit and so I'm meeting with them and. For most of them the benefit they get is just understanding that whatever they're experiencing internally other guys are experiencing that same thing internally too. I mean that that by itself is just so healing because most of these guys they screwed up something we Well we all screwed up.

01:01:14.37

Max Shank

Ah. Lost Boys their lost boys.

01:01:23.26

mikebledsoe

We we all screw up in our life. Yeah, we all screw up in our life At some point right? and then we then we judge our s ourselves for having screwed up and most guys they just clam up and never share that with anybody because they think that their situation is truly unique.

01:01:33.28

Max Shank

Often. Talk about suppressing right? I mean who suppresses more than dudes with their feelings. Ah.

01:01:41.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, So um, so just just the act of getting out and hanging out and talking about it and then realizing that other dudes have the same problems and then and then I'll obviously also offering strategies for dealing with. These things. Yeah, so these are 2 things that I like to I just do for for free that I know other people are trying to charge for and if you're trying to sell coaching to somebody that doesn't have money like I don't have any interest in trying to sell something.

01:02:02.70

Max Shank

It's like a feeling of a community. It sounds like.

01:02:18.38

mikebledsoe

To the blue collar I'm not gonna go sell coaching to the blue collar community one. They're not really looking for it. Um, and ah because they don't know it exists. They just don't even know it exists. Yeah.

01:02:22.90

Max Shank

But now.

01:02:31.73

Max Shank

You're talking about using the right bait for the right fish basically and the fact that not everything has to be ah, a monetary exchange because my guess is you get a tremendous amount out of these experiences every week otherwise you would not do them.

01:02:38.25

mikebledsoe

Not everything.

01:02:44.47

mikebledsoe

I Absolutely so but the only reason I can do them is because I am using the right bait with the right fish somewhere else that feeds me it pays my bills it.

01:02:53.96

Max Shank

Exactly you got a crew of guys out on a fleet of boats. They're catching fish you're shooting the breeze with the guy at the diner and if you don't free up your time. Ah, you're always stuck with the pole.

01:03:02.32

mikebledsoe

Exactly.

01:03:11.21

Max Shank

In the River You don't have a chance to tell other guys about fishing. You don't have a chance to just relax on the beach yourself. Um, yeah, that's a really interesting way to use our resources right? It's like you're using your resources to get something that.

01:03:29.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, ah, there's ah this this actually happens in like a lot of the the medicine world like I learned about this from Ashley she's psychotherapist and they have this thing called a sliding scale. So you know they may charge.

01:03:31.12

Max Shank

Ah, you can't purchase.

01:03:49.28

mikebledsoe

Two hundred bucks, two hundred and fifty three hundred bucks an hour as as a psychotherapist to their clients. But if someone comes in There's a certain number of spots they have allotted that they're allowed to go down in a sliding scalells like you know I'm only in charge you a hundred bucks because I know you can't afford it in this and that and I look at it I go man. Ah, sliding scale is too narrow I want a sliding scale where I'm charging this person $3000 per hour and then I'm giving this person the thing for twenty bucks an hour or five bucks an hour or free ends.

01:04:20.22

Max Shank

Well, that just means you're good at drawing a boundary of what you feel comfortable with my my thing is people pay full price. Ah for what I'm doing or they pay nothing and I I I like that I like that idea better.

01:04:31.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that's that's pretty much I don't I don't do discounts either. You know.

01:04:39.83

Max Shank

Because um, when I was when I was coming up when I was just a young book coming up I was ah you know started out coaching people for burritos. So not a very high rate of pay per hour and then over time it went up. Fifty bucks an hour sixty buck hour an hour hundred two hundred three hundred an hou hou hour sixty buck hour an hour hundred two hundred three hundred an hou hou hour sixty buck hour an hour hundred two hundred three hundred an hou hou hour sixty buck hour an hour hundred two hundred three hundred an hou hou hour undred two hundred three hundred an hou hour um but I had grandfathered a few people in and I didn't and I did it too long I tolerated that shit because I thought I was doing them a solid and so I was training people at three hundred an hour and then I was training.

01:05:08.19

mikebledsoe

So yeah, yeah.

01:05:18.26

Max Shank

Ah, a couple guys. One guy was training it 60 and the other guy was training at 150 and I just remember I just remember being like ah I just had to draw the boundary 1 time and that's that's the ah the aftershock.

01:05:25.98

mikebledsoe

It's 20% and yeah.

01:05:37.92

Max Shank

That the other person experiences because I didn't draw boundaries soon enough. It's the same as in a relationship they were like whoa. Oh my god from 60 to 300 I was like yeah, it's like my bad because I was stupid and thought like to not raise your rates the whole way. So now you're 10 times more upset.

01:05:54.96

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:05:55.82

Max Shank

Because I tolerated and avoided it for so long and then also I'm not feeling good about those sessions where I'm making sixty bucks where the other ones I'm making 300 now now I feel like a charity case. It's like I almost subliminally want to do a worse job.

01:06:05.88

mikebledsoe

It's hard to walk away feeling good.

01:06:11.93

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:06:14.40

Max Shank

So it's more appropriate value like I want to like fucking abuse him or something you know what I mean like like if he's only paying sixty bucks but if I like hit him with a stick or something like I'll I don't know whatever it's like I think ah you know people probably beat their wives.

01:06:17.91

mikebledsoe

Ah, maybe I should be paying my trainer more Maybe that's what's happening.

01:06:29.36

mikebledsoe

You get a little resentment you start resenting them a little bit. Yeah husbands. Yeah.

01:06:34.21

Max Shank

People probably beat their wives for the same reason or beat their spouses or say mean things to each other I don't know it. It does seem like it always comes back to that clear setting of boundaries fucking accept it fully or reject it but don't tolerate it. Don't tolerate it.

01:06:42.43

mikebledsoe

Boy how did you? Ah, how do you have? How do you have that conversation.

01:06:51.37

Max Shank

How do you have it. You just got to have it. There's no easy way. Um, there's no easy way to have it. Oh um, I'll tell you exactly what is because I want them to like me.

01:06:54.48

mikebledsoe

Ah, but how do you do it? Not I know there's no easy way. Yeah yeah I mean it you know why? it's not easy by the way people people. Yeah well, there's that but there's there's like well there's.

01:07:10.29

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:07:12.17

mikebledsoe

We we play out the worst case scenarios in our minds before the conversations I find that the conversations are rarely are as bad as what I think they might be so it's all the time leading up to the conversation is that suffering The conversation itself is actually not that bad.

01:07:14.25

Max Shank

Now they hate me.

01:07:24.40

Max Shank

Totally well and if you're more and it's like more geared toward looking out for the negatives most high performing guys usually are Anyway, they're looking out.

01:07:30.41

mikebledsoe

Totally.

01:07:36.97

Max Shank

What are my weaknesses. What's the worst case scenario I got to look out for and you just play this probability tree in your head like you've probably and folks listening like played out different ways. A conversation could go before you go have it right.

01:07:47.20

mikebledsoe

Totally it almost never goes the way I think it will like I'll I'll I'll like these are the 5 different scenarios and then the sixth one that I didn't think it pops up.

01:07:50.95

Max Shank

You're like okay maybe there's like a 20% chance this will happen 40% chance this.

01:08:01.80

Max Shank

It almost always goes the way I think it will I'm not just trying to like bullshit either like ah probably because I think about it too much too much. Ah, but yeah.

01:08:07.57

mikebledsoe

Maybe maybe I find that whether I thought through it or not really doesn't matter about the outcome you know? yeah.

01:08:20.57

Max Shank

I think that's typically the case also that I would agree with um, at any rate it's it's the same. It's like I made a mistake I ah I'm charging this much now you're the only one you and None other person are the only people paying this. I don't feel comfortable doing that anymore. So this is the new rate if you want to continue great if you don't also great. Ah, no, not those not those None other others did ah just like the.

01:08:39.64

mikebledsoe

Did they stay.

01:08:47.62

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, the the gap wasn't so big.

01:08:53.53

Max Shank

Late I mean between 60 and like a couple hundred is ah a gargantuan amount that person ended up that person ended up paying a None and working with another coach so he still stayed with the gym but he like yeah um.

01:08:57.70

mikebledsoe

That's a big jump. Totally Okay, that's even Better. You probably still took home the same amount without having do any of the work.

01:09:10.97

Max Shank

Yeah, is way better. Um, ah, but once again like I'm I'm in a lucky place because I coach people because I I like to not because I I have to and when you have to it feels like you're less able.

01:09:18.70

mikebledsoe

Bright new.

01:09:27.77

Max Shank

To say what's really on your mind and draw those boundaries you're like fuck I I want to draw I Want to set good boundaries but I need the fucking burrito like exactly um, same same thing with having ah resources available time money which is.

01:09:32.46

mikebledsoe

Right? right? hungry None

01:09:46.96

Max Shank

Ah, claim check on other people's time. Basically I don't know if you ever heard that term I Love that concept. Um, you know when things go a little bit haywire like they have in the world. Economically if you have resources available. That's the time to capitalize because ah.

01:09:47.94

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah.

01:10:06.71

Max Shank

Basically who whoever needs does not have the power and whoever does not need has the power in any kind of.

01:10:12.95

mikebledsoe

True Dad Well when he I also want point out like when you say resources. It's not just money I think that in what what we're time well time as part of it but like the the ability to to ah perspective and how you're perceiving the situation.

01:10:20.12

Max Shank

Time time money effort energy.

01:10:32.81

mikebledsoe

Is Also really huge because in times like these one of the things that's happening is there's a massive shift right? The way I see it is We did a really good job of fighting to keep things the same for like 20 years. It's like okay, it's the same. It's the same. It's same I can expect this I can expect this I go to work I Do this kind of job. Expect expect expect and then we ran out of like the we we weren't able to hold the floodgates back any longer of change which the universe is just always delivering change and so more change happens.

01:11:03.21

Max Shank

4

01:11:09.82

mikebledsoe

More quickly than what we're used to which which looks bleak but the reality is is that we have a huge opportunity in those moments and if you can stay out of that lizard brain take some deep breaths realize and look around and say. Okay,, there's still a roof over my head I still got my iphone in my pocket and I got enough money for groceries. Maybe not all the groceries that I want to get but some of them so like okay all right? Well you're safe take a breath. Nobody's taking that away from you and what can you create? Can you.? Can you? Um, what problems are emerging in which you can participate in a solution and so there are there are and everything is at a discount right now too. So if if you're if you're right.

01:12:04.72

Max Shank

I Feel like I'm at the blue collar meeting now.

01:12:09.12

mikebledsoe

Ah, everything's at a discount So like um for somebody who has a resource of a big bank account. They can come in and swoop up and bite real estate crypto stocks everything everything's at a discount right now Commodities every.

01:12:24.74

Max Shank

Penny pennies on the dollar pennies on the dollar. Ah.

01:12:28.41

mikebledsoe

Well not all commodities. But um, a lot of things are a discount right now and they're going to get swooped up now if you don't have the bank account to swoop up and get these things then you have you have to use your mind and you have to use your time and your energy and your.

01:12:42.35

Max Shank

Energy reserves.

01:12:47.41

mikebledsoe

Problem solve the number None thing I want to point out is problem solving skills. What problem can you solve for other people because the more you can do that because what we have is we have an increase in problems right now. But it's not the same problems that we had two years ago so you got to change the type of work that you do if you really want to capitalize. On what's happening right now.

01:13:09.48

Max Shank

It's like who moved my cheese. You know that little management book. Ah, it's great is who moved my cheese is basically like.

01:13:10.26

mikebledsoe

Now.

01:13:20.13

Max Shank

If you lament that the cheese got moved. You're going to fuck yourself up. But if you just keep looking for where the cheese went off to you're going to find it a lot better. Okay, so like you you find the reward somewhere.

01:13:25.43

mikebledsoe

Hang on. Oh yeah, okay, an exits.

01:13:33.80

Max Shank

And then you go back the next day and it's gone. You're like what the fuck who moved my cheese and then you go on this tirade Meanwhile the other mouse is just like continuing to look for the cheese. So it's really about um so there's resource allocation which is how you use what you got and then there is resource.

01:13:39.65

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:53.58

Max Shank

Acquisition which is what can you? How can you trade that what can you trade for that. Um, and I would say that as far as resource allocation is concerned man if you were even like 50% efficient with your resources. You'd be very rich.

01:13:55.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:14:11.24

mikebledsoe

Most people.

01:14:12.27

Max Shank

Like you be fucking crazy rich. You don't have to do that much. You just got to do something that people really want and the more swings you take the more likely you are to figure something out but don't get um, don't get stuck in like None idea and think like oh that. This should work forever. Then you're the last guy selling horse and buggies in a street full of cars and you're fucked. You're like who moved who took away all the horses. What's going on here. My carriage business is fucked and it's like no, you got to adapt adaptability. So chief attribute of survival.

01:14:49.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, ah and this brings me back to feedback loops people are blind to feedback loops and that's why they wait too long to change and so one of the things I like to do with people is we create a ninety day dashboard where we're tracking.

01:14:50.44

Max Shank

Adaptability Change I mean that's that's it.

01:15:07.24

mikebledsoe

The work that we're doing over the next ninety days to take us specifically towards our goals and I just had a I mean going back and forth with one of my clients this morning where he he's like he's like why I have all this stuff that I've been doing but it's this other thing that's actually creating the result and he's like complaining they're like. Ah, he's like he's like I'm not sure this program is working I'm like this is a demonstration of the program working but you have figured out what doesn't move the needle and you figured out what does move the needle so on your on your ninety day dashboard

01:15:33.45

Max Shank

Hey.

01:15:40.67

Max Shank

Right.

01:15:45.73

mikebledsoe

Just take off all the shit. That's not working that's taking up your time and energy and put this stuff in that is working and do that instead and so the idea of planning out ninety days at a time and then doing the work and then getting the feedback if you've never done that the none time you do it. You're going to realize that 80% of the work you do is useless and then you you revise it in the next ninety days it gets a little better in the next ninety days it gets a little better and that's why I like to work with people for at least a year is because we get through 4 revisions. Or you know one None initial and None revisions of their ninety day ninety days of work at a time and within a year you've made 3 revisions. It looks pretty good. You got a good handle on what moves the needle but a lot of times you know.

01:16:34.82

Max Shank

You got to do your own experiments. You got to do your own experiments and you can't get attached to doing it one way or another what you said before was really good too. It's like you have ah why do people take so long to change it's because ah. It's unknown people prefer the familiar pain to the unknown, a lot of the time and that's why if you're afraid ah which is uncertainty about the future. Um in ah in a negative sense then the solution is curiosity which is. Ah, a happy uncertainty so fear is like a scary uncertainty and curiosity is like a happy uncertainty so you basically um, you know as a coach as a marketer as a fisherman you're basically trying to instill people. With that level of enthusiasm which is like a fire which is like inspiration There's a sense of excitement about the future I mean you can also just full on like scaretactic people into buying ah bulk food barrels and shit like that. But but but but even so you can get them. Curious and excited about how safe you could feel if you had 15 years of food in your cellar or some shit like that I don't know but ah basically you have the fear and the curiosity which is all about the future and then the past you have like resentment and nostalgia.

01:17:53.89

mikebledsoe

FF.

01:18:08.88

Max Shank

And nostalgia is kind of like a weird trap. It's nice. Ah, but actually I think um appreciation is a little bit better Nostalgia is almost like the past is better appreciation.

01:18:21.17

mikebledsoe

So yeah, you're wishing when I think about nostalgia is like I think about a good old day I remember I played that football and.

01:18:27.85

Max Shank

The good old days the good old days I remember I score 3 touchdowns in the single half it at that a has schoolll football game and ah Mvp ah fuck that head cheerleader and now I got a baby bubba junior. Yeah.

01:18:38.92

mikebledsoe

Ah, the.

01:18:46.39

mikebledsoe

I Hope I want to I hope everyone appreciates our range so takes a really special person to have made it this far.

01:18:46.80

Max Shank

That that is like the classic move.

01:18:57.71

Max Shank

Ah, it sure does I feel like there should be a special prize to anyone who who listens to this long.

01:19:03.60

mikebledsoe

Ah, if you're listening just let me know I I think the special prize is just is just me knowing that you made it here. That's really yeah.

01:19:14.60

Max Shank

Yeah, let us know what you want for a prize I mean we're good at drawing boundaries. So we'll tell you no but I mean maybe we'll say yes, no ask no get. That's what I have noticed.

01:19:19.75

mikebledsoe

We might say yes, yeah, here's the thing max and I want to give you something. We just don't know what it is. We don't know what you want and we don't know if we're willing to give it to you but you know yeah shit load.

01:19:32.96

Max Shank

That's fact, we're willing to give quite a lot I mean there are a lot of win-win opportunities out there. So I think one of the things that you and I ah definitely have a talent for is more result with less effort and building. Ah, launch ramp or a water wheel or a rocket ship or something that will really ah deliver a lot of results per the amount of energy put in and um, physically business wise too. I certainly enjoy doing that it feels pretty simple and straightforward. But that's probably just something about having like 15 years of experience with it. Yeah.

01:20:18.60

mikebledsoe

That helps you're 15 years in

01:20:25.41

Max Shank

Ah, into like training itself I'm ah like almost 17 but I didn't start well I started doing like free ebooks like about fifteen years ago like I I I took. Ah.

01:20:27.85

mikebledsoe

What about business.

01:20:36.74

mikebledsoe

Okay, we start about the same time then.

01:20:43.68

Max Shank

Ah I did I tell you about the real stoneliing manual at some point. Yeah, just fucking Sunglasses Jujitsu Rash Guard shaved head looking tough horrible quality photos ridiculous claims about lifting rocks.

01:20:44.25

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah.

01:21:02.60

Max Shank

It was just such the perfect stamp in time for how tough I wanted to appear it was. It's like awesome. Yeah yeah, and.

01:21:06.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, go Youtube that folks max shank lifting rocks I don't know what you search for to get there but that might take you.

01:21:19.30

Max Shank

Yeah I mean if you look at my Youtube channel and you go ah, here's a little easter egg if you go from ah like date oldest to newest. It's such a fucking trip I mean I was doing shit at Crossfit Enciitas back in the day. So ah, you know.

01:21:28.25

mikebledsoe

Oh yeah, ah.

01:21:37.54

Max Shank

That's the other thing I got I got to say like I've just tried so many things and the internet doesn't know about the fucking Encyclopedia of Colossal failures that I have been a part of but I think like also let me.

01:21:47.49

mikebledsoe

Yeah, ah.

01:21:56.65

Max Shank

Let me clarify even further the colossal failures often took about 10 times the effort of the things that were raging successes so like I've spent so much energy on some things and then they just like lose money lose more money. Take None of my time.

01:22:02.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:22:15.80

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:22:15.46

Max Shank

Lose even more money and then I fucking quit because so I've just hit my limit and then something that was like just a casual publishing of some shit that I wrote is a None times better. We're talking like you know 20 k launch. It took me a week to put this shit together. You know.

01:22:35.13

mikebledsoe

That's that's how the strong coach was it was very low effort big reward and while I was simultaneously I was running the strong crutch for close to a year and then I'm simultaneously launching a different company and the launching the company was like five weeks of

01:22:35.23

Max Shank

Ah, that kind of thing.

01:22:43.53

Max Shank

Um, yeah. Yeah, what.

01:22:52.29

mikebledsoe

Just felt like torture and then at the end had like a a really shitty launch and in the same month where I was I barely gave my primary business much attention. It had a record breaking month and I go I had to sit down with myself and go okay.

01:23:07.00

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:23:11.91

mikebledsoe

You're being silly just focus on the thing that works or we or maybe don't focus on just let it keep on breaking records without you working I don't know.

01:23:15.91

Max Shank

Yeah, it's like it's like thinking I mean we could get super philosophical here and just say let the universe pull you in whatever direction you're supposed to go but I do at the very least agree that the amount of. Effort that you put into something has very little to do with how the people like it I mean sometimes it's related but sometimes they're completely independent and also kind of like we were saying for the sacrificing and the suffering Ah don't don't imagine that you get more points. For working harder or longer or suffering more or not liking the shit that you're doing like you don't get points. It's it's like fake points in a fake game. It makes no sense whatsoever.

01:24:01.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah I said we are. We're almost an hour and a half in let's shut this baby down. Yeah you got any final thoughts here. Holy shit fishing poles and triangles.

01:24:08.29

Max Shank

Wrap it up. So ah, what's what's the topic fishing poles and triangles. Ah okay I'll so I'll sum up what I think um. Anyone can put together an offer an offer is going to involve some marketing which is basically storytelling and helping the person understand the value of taking the action you want and then of course there's fulfillment on top of that I would like to reiterate. That ah tolerance is the worst thing ever because when you tolerate something you're not rejecting it. You're not accepting it what you are accepting is a burden that will help grow resentment in your heart. This is a problem both relationship wise and business wise which is. Another. It's it's just a commercial relationship. It's still a relationship um give give people what they want and if you give people what you want ah don't expect if it's a little more challenging and and that's okay, too. Look for the intersection between what you love doing and what people put a high price on there's an even better venn diagram if you look up the word eki guy into Google images and. Ah, if you're always flinging your pole in the stream because you're always hungry. You're never going to have time to build a fishing boat or a fishing net or a rocket ship or any of that you can't build that stuff unless you know how to build it so you need plans to do it. But you also need to defer a lot of gratification into the future. Which if you're in lizard mode good luck. No chance you pretty much need to be in a more ah wizard-like state which means you need to secure the lizard love the mammal so you can free the wizard and you know performing at a high level like this is related to a lot of. Very simple things I like to use movement and music and singing and dancing to express and get into a flow state and I know I perform better just by getting better blood flow. You know, singing open ins the throat chakra there are all kinds of things you can do. But. Ultimately, you got to think about your resource allocation and that's what's going to lead to that resource acquisition if. That's the goal and yeah, that's that's that's what I got.

01:26:48.92

mikebledsoe

So good I'm not gonna add anything because that was was extremely comprehensive. Yeah yeah, you take your brain drugs today.

01:26:52.96

Max Shank

Um, yeah I fucking nailed it there I nailed it that was good. Great talk I Love I Love these talks by the way I don't care that no one's donated anything yet because there's so much fun.

01:27:02.90

mikebledsoe

People have offered I just haven't sent them our benmos but I ah.

01:27:09.36

Max Shank

Dude I'm starving over here come on dude just take care of it. Jesus fucking Christ man starving over here I'm giving you gold Mike I'm giving you gold. Ah.

01:27:20.19

mikebledsoe

I hope the guy out go to http://macsank.com he's got some products over there.

01:27:26.37

Max Shank

I.

01:27:28.58

mikebledsoe

Ah, and I have ah a live summit happening here in Austin Texas September sixteen through None It's an all inclusive retreat I ran out a summer camp got paleo chefs coming in and we start off our morning swimming in a spring. So um. Should come hang out. We can chat about business talk about how to get out of that if you're stuck in that lizard mode or even the mammal mode we can. We can help get you into that that wizard mode where you can create some shit. So. It's going to be awesome.

01:28:02.99

Max Shank

It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be awesome and now I want you guys to I Want you guys to contemplate. Ah how your relationship with pigs would differ if they could suddenly speak English Love you.

01:28:05.30

mikebledsoe

Can be better than the last one.

01:28:11.75

mikebledsoe

Oh that's right, keep that one in mind. Love you later.

Jul 21, 2022

Ice baths have expanded into wider markets in recent years with the emergence of Wim Hof & others preaching their benefits for the masses

 

Today’s guest is an Army Combat Veteran with a background in game theory & analytics for optimization; making him potentially the last person you’d think to be a leader in the world of ice baths and cold immersion

 

Listen in as he shares how their company is revolutionizing the industry and making ice baths more accessible for all

Jul 18, 2022

00:00.00

Max Shank

Us folk who call up customer support not knowing what to do sometimes turning it off and on again solves the problem and that's pretty weird.

00:10.23

mikebledsoe

Yeah I worked in I t in my late teens early 20 s and 9 times out of 10 that was the solution. So.

00:22.98

Max Shank

I remember recently maybe like a year ago getting a new router installed and like a wireless thing a router and a modem I suppose and trying to understand how that shit works is. Really there's a lot of shit going on back and forth between a lot of different places with that little box. It's insane. Um, sadly, it's one of those things I really don't feel like I've made much progress on I feel like I made a little bit of progress learning about.

00:44.89

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

00:50.27

mikebledsoe

It.

01:02.30

Max Shank

Computer coding plumbing that sort of thing. But as soon as you start getting into the the cell signals and the wireless linkups and where everything's going. It gets a little hard to follow.

01:14.10

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think ah well the basis of troubleshooting to be a good troubleshoter. Is you just have to understand how the system works in the None place it is binary all the way through it's it. But anytime like when I help Ashley with something.

01:25.13

Max Shank

Binary all the way through. Yeah, that's what's so interesting.

01:33.72

mikebledsoe

Some type of troubleshooting thing. Ah, it's ah it's basically because she doesn't understand how the whole system works. You don't know if check this and then this and then this um but we had um, we had a loss of water in our house a couple months ago I call the I call the city all this stuff. Guy comes out tells me I just need to clean my you know the filters and my faucets. Whatever that didn't work and come to find out that my hot water heater has some type of sensor that gets triggered when I have heavy rain that turns off the hot water heater. So.

02:07.95

Max Shank

Aha.

02:10.64

mikebledsoe

And' have I had cold water I didn't have hot water but I didn't didn you figure it out but there was a part of the system in which I didn't even know existed that I ended up discovering because there was an alarm going off in my attic where the hot water heaters at and it was faint.

02:11.92

Max Shank

Ah, hi yeah.

02:27.52

Max Shank

Aha.

02:29.81

mikebledsoe

So yeah, troubleshooting is an interesting thing if you don't if you don't know the system knows detail. It's going to be difficult to figure out what's going on but sometimes when you need the troubleshoot. That's when we figure out how something actually works.

02:43.18

Max Shank

Well, it's like the Layman doesn't even know what to check? let alone how to fix it. He he doesn't even have a checklist. You know if you at least have a checklist then you can maybe start somewhere and I think that's how I approach fitness. It's a little bit mechanical. Still.

02:49.69

mikebledsoe

Um.

03:03.20

Max Shank

Um, I feel like I'm torn. A lot of the time between just telling people to like go hike and dance and if you occasionally carry something heavy while you're hiking and climb on stuff. It'll all work out and then there are other times where I think of ah, a checklist for ah daily. Um. Movements that you might want to focus on like roll bounce balance crawl climb carry rub squeeze shake these different like little things that you can just check off None at a time and I guess it's good. It works for different personality types. But it's funny how they're sometimes very analytical like none you have this topic you have these 3 movements per topic boom boom boom very regimented and then other times I'm like yeah if you bounce around and shake your arms out. You'll you'll move your lymph so you're not in this stagnant toxicity.

03:41.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

03:56.54

Max Shank

And then ah you know throw £20 in a backpack and go hike and climb on some stuff and you'll be relatively good enough. Just go enjoy that.

04:03.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think that um you know this brings out the topic for me is structure and flow and if you don't have enough structure in place then finding flow is gonna be like flow that actually works So There's people who you know. Ah I'll see people preaching online about intuitive eating and and I go that actually doesn't work until someone has done some pretty like I'm an intuitive eater but I've done a bunch of hardcore diets where I've restricted myself heavily and I.

04:36.72

Max Shank

Right.

04:41.57

mikebledsoe

Tuned into when my body needs something or doesn't need something but the only you know if you were living off ice cream bars and and snickerdooodles then he's triggered folks then.

04:49.68

Max Shank

I Feel attacked.

04:58.55

mikebledsoe

Like your your a ability to tap into what your body actually needs is is diminished and so I think the same thing happens with with fitness like you and I both have a really deep understanding of like we've gone through like really structured stuff for so long that we worked on stuff. We would not normally have worked on. But now that we have we can tell like when I go in the gym I go yeah I don't work this this skill or this part of my body feels weak like I need to I need to shore it up and and do some stuff but I'm preparing for a spartan race. And run the beast at the end of September by the way anyone I'm doing a spartan race doing the world championships in Tahoe September Twenty Fourth anyone who or yeah, love ta ha any excuse to go so I'm gonna run the race and.

05:36.85

Max Shank

Is this a real story. You're gonna be doing a Spartan race.

05:45.60

Max Shank

I was just there last week oh my god get out of here.

05:55.19

mikebledsoe

Ceo of Spartan Joe Decenna he gave me an unlimited amount of free registrations for my friends who all want to run it with me. He said I could have 200 people if I want and so ah, by the way if anyone wants to go run that race with me the.

06:02.30

Max Shank

Wow in Lake Tahill oh my god.

06:14.75

mikebledsoe

Will be the strong coach team will be just Dm me I'll send you the links to to get registered and yeah I want to have like 200 people running that race. All of us start together finish together.

06:24.29

Max Shank

Wow Same t-shirts on everybody like a excellent little ah tribe cult something or other I mean look it's a group. There are a lot of words for group Cult is a bit of a trigger word right.

06:33.17

mikebledsoe

You know what? I just ordered a bunch of t-shirts we can do. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, our cult is the best and ah so we're.

06:42.69

Max Shank

But that's what it is None rule in every cult. Our cult is the best thou shalt have no other cults or cult masters above me god the beakram yoga guy same same same rules.

06:50.53

mikebledsoe

Yes.

06:55.33

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, ah yeah, probably so I'm preparing for that race and I've run it a couple times with very little preparation I did okay but I noticed that every time I run the race. The thing that bothers me the most is my knees hurt the last.

07:04.11

Max Shank

Or.

07:13.16

Max Shank

Of.

07:14.60

mikebledsoe

Quarter of it lot of downhill on rocks but I can make my knees stronger. There's things I can do to improve that My grip strength is definitely a limiter near the end. There's so much climbing so much picking and carrying things and um, like.

07:27.46

Max Shank

Interesting I am.

07:34.39

mikebledsoe

Overall cardio doesn't seem to be that big of ah a limiter I mean it it is but compared to just ah yeah, because near the end of the race you're picking up a None tire too. So you've run a dozen miles up and down hills carrying sandbags and buckets of sands and shit.

07:50.20

Max Shank

The.

07:52.00

mikebledsoe

And then it's like okay now flip this tire. So yeah, the the things I notice I'm like oh what I need to train for is I need to improve my grip strength endurance I need to improve my knee health and strength and I need to be able to pick up just heavy shit. And need to pick up something heavy every once in a while in in I say about three hundred pounds three hundred

08:11.78

Max Shank

How heavy we talking I think it's I think it's a great topic that we just touched on here because it's nice to get practical because kind of like it. It all comes full circle. It's very similar to. Knowing how to make a great recipe so you go from a guy who just chops up the vegetables to the guy who's assembling everything together the line cook and then you got the head Chef who's doing you know flavor profiles and combinations and he's the artist and that kind of ties us back to that intuitive eating.

08:44.69

mikebledsoe

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

08:50.26

Max Shank

You were talking about if you have no intuition to intuit like what the fuck are you doing like I've I've been really mindfully eating these twinkies and I'm really intuitively you know I feel like I could walk about None steps and burn these up that seems like a reasonable. Exchange you will never you I'm still surprised how efficient we are at utilizing at saving calories. Anyway.

09:13.33

mikebledsoe

Yeah, what you can um ho that makes me think you can hone intuition and the only way to hone it is you got to be paying attention to the results. So so the twinkie 10 steps thing. It's a great idea. But say someone eats twinkies does ten steps day after day after day and they just get fatter and fatter. Then if you're paying you go? Oh well so the intuition is something that gets calibrated and it gets calibrated by results. So the people who lack intuition.

09:38.35

Max Shank

Totally.

09:50.96

mikebledsoe

I find just aren't paying attention to the results because if you're paying attention to the inputs and the outputs then you're going to be honing that intuition. But if you're not paying attention to those things then you'll never have it and you'll just suffer and struggle through life.

10:05.50

Max Shank

Is it I think of it like intuition is a certain openness and then the way to hone it like you said is to take that intuition and harmonize it with your wisdom which is.

10:23.31

mikebledsoe

You know.

10:23.90

Max Shank

All the stuff that you've learned with respect to who you authentically are which which is some combination of your genes and your experiences and the weird stories you believe. But I think it's about harmonizing that like openness gut. Instinct Raw like Curiosity spark of inspiration. Whatever and then passing it through okay is this is this congruent on some level with what I have experienced and then from there having the openness to try something new or having the resolve to. Go is something that you have good experience with so ah, intuitive training is where I was going with it so we went intuitive cooking to eating to training now.

11:00.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, agreed but going back going back to Spartan Race and intuition and I I know that yeah yeah so now it's I know that I need to work on a handful of things if I want to enjoy myself on the race more I'll experience less pain and suffering I know I'm Goingnna finish. But how much pain how much pain am I going to finish it. So yeah, so.

11:18.67

Max Shank

Oh.

11:29.90

Max Shank

We all want that for you.

11:37.15

mikebledsoe

Basically just start mapping it out and I have an idea for like what things I'm going to train on one day's but I'm not writing out the specific exercises and if I get to that day and I realize I still haven't recovered from this or that or whatever I'm making adjustments along the way. So I got ten weeks

11:37.78

Max Shank

Um.

11:47.50

Max Shank

Um, so so you'll so you'll have ten weeks until that I mean look I'll take any excuse almost any excuse to go back to Lake Tahoe ah although as a rule I typically only run when I'm chasing something or being chased could I be a chaser I feel like that's more my nature honestly.

12:05.13

mikebledsoe

We can. We could make that work I think we should just find a really fast hot girl to run in front of you and.

12:17.96

Max Shank

I'll catch her so fast. It will be game over I'll I'll run one fortieth of the race. Um, no, but so is your checklist then for.

12:26.31

mikebledsoe

Oh.

12:34.75

Max Shank

You're let's say you're like filling in the gaps right? And that's another thing I would love to talk about at some point is the difference in mentality between just fluffing up your ego and a few certain things versus really looking for like really looking for. Where you have the ability to improve right? Ah, it's It's a checkup.

12:54.71

mikebledsoe

Well, that's why I run the spartan race every year I go to tahoe every fall and I run it. It's and it's an annual checkup I only have to go once a year and I know yeah.

13:04.31

Max Shank

Um, Dr Spartan Doctor Spartan Dr Spartan says he fucking suck it hanging.

13:11.19

mikebledsoe

Yeah, So it's like well it's a good check because there's very few skills that you're not going to practice out there. Um, So there's some that are going to be left off for sure. But in ah in a single day you're going to know a lot about yourself. And so I really love it for that.

13:30.39

Max Shank

Well here's ah, here's a little phrase I like it's ah done today able tomorrow done today able tomorrow and it's kind of a shorter version of if you don't use it. You lose it.

13:39.60

mikebledsoe

M.

13:49.53

Max Shank

And ah, a positive version. So I'm guessing for your annual tahoe checkup that you do almost nothing related to the spartan race for about ten months and then you do two months of like. Very dedicated training for it is that would you say that's correct.

14:11.46

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you're spot on. Maybe even let maybe more like eleven months typically this is is it's 10 weeks I'm I'm um, this is the most prepared I've gone in so far I even ran this past weekend.

14:17.24

Max Shank

Ah, you did just say eight weeks so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. But. Are.

14:30.72

mikebledsoe

And um I don't do that ah very often at all.

14:33.79

Max Shank

I I feel like you have this knowing that you can do nothing activity wise and still finish that Spartan race. Yeah I see it.

14:46.24

mikebledsoe

That's the problem. Yeah.

14:50.67

Max Shank

I Wish you guys could see his face right now.

14:53.28

mikebledsoe

Ah, ah.

14:56.80

Max Shank

Ah I was just thinking strategically if I were going to recommend to someone how to prepare for such an experience. Ah it wouldn't be the way that you're talking about. It's far from optimal in terms of a progressive.

15:03.82

mikebledsoe

No, no, no, it's definitely far from optimal. Yeah I Just want to not hurt I Want to see because last time my knees.

15:15.50

Max Shank

Adaptation right? So but not that bad right? like like ten months off a year hey I think that's totally a fair trade quite honestly, it's.

15:23.31

mikebledsoe

Yeah, like it's only one day of pain one one day of pain. Yeah.

15:33.36

Max Shank

It would be a lot of hours throughout the year otherwise but let's say you train five days a week for the next ten weeks is that about right.

15:42.37

mikebledsoe

Ah, we'll call it 4 But yeah, None is aggressive for me I'm ah I need a lot of time to recover.

15:45.15

Max Shank

Um, okay, so none a lot I was just thinking though if instead of forty days out of sixty days if you did. Fifty two days out of none what the difference in bet because that would be once a week just thinking mathematically, that's probably what I would recommend somebody do. But then again the thing I really recommend is move around a little bit every day. Why wouldn't you. It's like.

16:04.20

mikebledsoe

A.

16:18.66

mikebledsoe

Do yeah well I already do that. So that's why the that's why I liked. That's what I do I I move nice and easy every day and then when it comes to something like this do some sports specific training ramp it up.

16:21.87

Max Shank

It's like you get to make it's like you get to make deposits and compound daily instead of weekly. E.

16:36.26

mikebledsoe

And then I go back to being lazy. It's great. Definitely not running too far.

16:38.76

Max Shank

And not running too far I can I can run after a tennis ball or like a soccer ball or frisbee or something like that. But when it's like hey just run over there. Part of me is like why.

16:51.93

mikebledsoe

Yeah I like to I like to eat a little bit of mushrooms at the starting line and hang. You know it's a time to hang out with my friends in nature. That's that's really the way to go don't tell Joe that I do that the start of his race.

17:01.50

Max Shank

Nice and it.

17:08.64

mikebledsoe

Take performance enhancing mushrooms.

17:09.54

Max Shank

Yeah I won't tell him on our public podcast.

17:14.44

mikebledsoe

This is the members only section. What do you want to talk about today up out showing the nipple.

17:17.25

Max Shank

Oh there's the members only section hang on that's the nipples Lefty writing. Okay, if you have a formula that works you stick with it.

17:31.47

mikebledsoe

That's right, still don't have the membership side up you but we'll get there. Um, it's probably good that have a number of these banked since they' probably 15 toy minutes piece ah topics for today 1 um.

17:33.80

Max Shank

Perfect. It's coming.

17:46.73

mikebledsoe

1 that is on top of my mind is ah I don't know that's what fit in maybe this will be just good for the members only to to hear but my brother is currently in Washington d c on trial for January six yeah Yeah

18:03.10

Max Shank

Bumbom bum.

18:05.51

mikebledsoe

He is according to some bumbling idiots a domestic terrorist that is a very scary phrase.

18:11.77

Max Shank

Oh good God That's a scary phrase I've hey ah you're you're breaking up I I can't be seen talking to you anymore I'm out of here.

18:20.31

mikebledsoe

Um, ah anyways, yeah, um, he he got caught up in the crowd that walked into the the ah was it called the capitol building and ah.

18:31.80

Max Shank

Point life.

18:39.49

mikebledsoe

Yeah I was.

18:40.18

Max Shank

I'm sure that happened exactly the way they say it happened right? Sure it happened. However, folks say it happened come on I Hope he's okay I hope it works out. Okay for him.

18:44.99

mikebledsoe

Whoever they are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it. So that's he's in good spirits. He's um, yeah, he's my mom's up there with him and it's It's hard of my mom. That's the worst part.

19:02.20

Max Shank

Oh yeah.

19:02.80

mikebledsoe

Because I my brother. He's even my brother hat here's the thing is everything that I know that if justice prevails he walks away scott free but I don't yeah, we're not witnessing justice and you know that the United States department of justice.

19:08.60

Max Shank

Ah, but.

19:22.89

mikebledsoe

Doesn't It's like the opposite of that. So.

19:23.60

Max Shank

That was a big weight off my shoulders when I stopped expecting Justice to happen and then getting frustrated when it didn't now it's more like if it does I'm pleasantly surprised but I kind of have this understanding that it's a doggy dog world and some people use.

19:28.18

mikebledsoe

Um, to bonus.

19:41.99

Max Shank

Dicks and some people use language and really people are just trying to help some help each other out fuck each other over dog eat dog. Whatever it's fine like but don't don't live your life expecting like oh that's not fair. Someone should make this fair. It's like yo don't don't expect that.

19:59.20

mikebledsoe

That's you're gonna be miserable if you think if you want things to be fair.

20:01.74

Max Shank

I lived that I lived that life a man in search of Justice got fucking idiot.

20:06.71

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, so that's going on this week so I'm going to be I'm lucky that I'll be spending the majority of my time this week hunting. So I won't be cut up and I'll be off off grid for a few days.

20:19.51

Max Shank

A.

20:24.50

mikebledsoe

I mean I wish I could do something support him I Really don't have any like he's kind of like where he's at. There's not really much I can do at this point. So.

20:33.49

Max Shank

There's a lot of situations like that where people say what's going on. You really have nothing to add. You're like I guess talk to an attorney and no one else and don't say anything and that's it like what else can you do.

20:43.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, um, yeah, have no idea. So yeah, that's an interesting thing So I'll be I'll be witnessing that and probably getting messages through the family text message thread. Yeah.

20:47.64

Max Shank

Yeah.

20:56.21

Max Shank

While while you're hunting What are you hunting for.

21:01.54

mikebledsoe

Wild boar. So um.

21:02.71

Max Shank

And your true self.

21:07.64

mikebledsoe

My truest self I ought for sure. So yeah I don't know that really I mean that's not really a topic I think I part I already said everything that there is but it's all my mind. So no.

21:10.13

Max Shank

Ah.

21:18.38

Max Shank

Um, definitely something on your mind though Yo that's a man, especially for your mom too. That's tough.

21:28.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, real tough. Well he he also has 2 daughters. So yeah, yeah, it's ah.

21:32.20

Max Shank

Oh my God they opened the door for him did he knock down a door. No come on you walk through a door. What's the big deal.

21:40.83

mikebledsoe

No, no, they walked through a door that police officers were holding open. There's it's ah it's pretty ridiculous. That's and it's ridiculous.

21:52.12

Max Shank

Yeah, that's what I mean it's like let some lawyer do that I realize it's like ah mathematics is so that you can explain more with less and law is so you can explain less with more. It's like the exact opposite.

22:08.38

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

22:12.40

Max Shank

Of the language of the universe. It's such a fucking cluster fuck. It's disgusting that that's where my shadow self comes out. It's like oh let's just skin those fuckers alive for abusing the language to rape the people.

22:17.11

mikebledsoe

It's it's disgusting.

22:24.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well if you if you're initiating violence then I think that it's in who are you know whoever is experiencing the violence from somebody else has a right to defend themselves and I think what we have is a bunch of people who've twisted up some words that.

22:37.36

Max Shank

Hundred percent

22:43.76

mikebledsoe

And then convinced these people who are supposed to be peace officers to go conduct violence and it's ah it's really frustrating. It's really frustrating situation. Yeah, it is outrageous. Yeah.

22:50.10

Max Shank

Um, it's outrageous. Yeah I mean it all depends what you compare it to like before the King could just say off with his head and you're like huh This is I get this is better than that for sure like it's way better for a lot of reasons. But.

23:04.58

mikebledsoe

It is better than that. Yeah, the the principles the same. The principle is the same. Yeah.

23:09.48

Max Shank

You know, still you got to hold the line on some level right? and I think that's what you and I that's kind of what you and I talk about right is it's not that like we want to help people free themselves like I often say I don't want to be your mama like I don't want to control anybody I don't want to be responsible for them either. Like I don't think that's a ah good trade. That's what makes these folks who think they know best for everybody their existence So sad is they believe that at some point they will finally feel safe or good enough or whatever when they tell enough other people what to do with their meddling ways. But. You know it's just never enough and they're always feeling totally um at odds or at War within the present Moment. It's pretty fucked up actually.

23:56.63

mikebledsoe

It makes and makes it for those of us folks that just mind our own business. Just yeah, it can be irritating. But if you get really good at mining your own business. They usually leave you alone.

24:10.64

Max Shank

Yeah I would agree with that I think ah like most people that just leave alone I mean minus like the the fractional. Slavery that we all participated but there are positive aspects undeniably. So It's done horribly bad but there are positive aspects so you like got to keep that optimism though. Maybe no no opt fuck man.

24:24.00

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

24:34.10

mikebledsoe

Yeah, maybe we'll see yeah walk. Yeah.

24:41.37

Max Shank

If you have no optimism you just don't do anything. That's that's the line is if you don't feel like there's a hope or belief for something positive in the future. Even if it's like I'm going to paint a picture later make ah sausage macaroni and cheese. You know you you got to have some. Ah.

24:58.57

mikebledsoe

Yeah, what I I think I think the reality of it is is like we we look at the entire system and it's and it's really gross, but the what I look at like the the way we got here is because people didn't stand on principle.

25:00.71

Max Shank

Belief or hope for the future.

25:17.49

mikebledsoe

Ah, long time ago and so this thing is blood so far in and if you try to take it back on principle all the way back to where it should be to where the consent you know I give consent or not if you take it all the way back to the principle which is what happens is people snap out of it and go oh my God I never gave consent.

25:24.37

Max Shank

Um, right.

25:35.44

Max Shank

Right.

25:37.19

mikebledsoe

And ah, you know they realize they're being rape and they then they go Oh I'm going to draw the line back where it should be and that's jarring like Society Society has a really hard time going adjusting to where things should be.

25:47.86

Max Shank

Right. Oh Man So true.

25:54.97

mikebledsoe

And yeah, so we got to like when I look at I go. How do we like stare step this thing back gradually the same way it got in which is going to be way harder to do than how we got here. It's kind of like losing weight so much easier to get fat.

26:10.27

Max Shank

Yo you know what? it's like it's exactly like someone finally drawing boundaries with another person and the person who has been infringing on the boundaries unknowingly.

26:20.20

mikebledsoe

Right.

26:27.67

Max Shank

Because that None person has not been drawing those boundaries. They're totally shocked. They're like whoa this is a completely different person because it's such a big separation from that false ah boundary that you had that false front. Um.

26:40.91

mikebledsoe

Yeah I what do you want? Do the show today. You want to do boundaries I know if we did boundaries or not yet.

26:48.35

Max Shank

Ah, probably I mean I think the the power of no is like None of my favorite none principles concepts and um, ah. Feel like I almost drone on about that all the time but that's almost the only important thing is like can you say no and then can you can you hear No the no callous. Um I don't know if that's a full topic but we could talk about tahoe.

27:15.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah, all right I like that the power of no, we don't have to go. You know we have to go like an hour hou hour hou hour fifteen every time we can just say the power of no and we got the.

27:31.38

Max Shank

Have we done the power of no before.

27:31.97

mikebledsoe

This section which is almost a half hour already I don't think so I don't remember writing that one down. Yeah.

27:37.43

Max Shank

Ah, okay, well let's let's try a power of no slash like tahoe. Yeah, sure.

27:44.79

mikebledsoe

Yeah, all right? you want can get off.

27:52.65

Max Shank

Oh you mean like right now. Okay hey everybody welcome back to Monday mornings with max and Mike Today we're gonna talk to you about the power of no and the power of 1 of the most beautiful places ever. Lake.

27:53.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, like right now.

28:12.56

Max Shank

Tahoe on the border of Nevada and California thanks for tuning in everybody mikey. Thanks for joining me again.

28:19.00

mikebledsoe

of course. of course so um we're going to get that power of no, but yeah, just a quick quick note I will be arriving in tahoe the week of September Twenty four to run a spartan race.

28:26.98

Max Shank

Are.

28:36.90

mikebledsoe

And anybody who wants to join me. They get a free registration Joe Decena the Ceo of Spartan Race basically gifted us as many registrants as we want. So if you want to run the race with me shoot me up in the Dms and ah I'll be prepping for that I don't know if I'll be posting my training. Ah, hate posting training online but people fucking. Love it.

28:57.25

Max Shank

I want to see tupper wares fully your food all lined up in a row for this I want to see you get serious like 1 of those like actual you know, athlete folks. Ah.

29:11.60

mikebledsoe

I I kind of enjoy I enjoy that I don't have to do that and I'll still beat some of those people like I remember I remember.

29:20.57

Max Shank

Um, oh yeah, we know? ah.

29:26.24

mikebledsoe

Remember 4 was it four years ago I was running the race and I had ah None my buddies with me and 1 of the guys he bought and sold cannabis for a living so he may or may not have been classified as a drug dealer now we halfway through the race. My edible. Was wearing off and I was like oh no I'm feeling sober and he looks over and pulls out a little plastic wrapped joint and whips it out on the trail we blaze it halfway through gets me through the end of the race and um.

29:55.36

Max Shank

Wow. Um, how long is this race. Oh a spartan race is eighteen miles holy god

30:03.46

mikebledsoe

Eighteen miles well they have different links but this 1 is eighteen miles with four thousand feet of elevation climb. So.

30:15.96

Max Shank

Sounds horrible.

30:18.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's pretty largerous and you're gonna do a swim at the top. It's it's like ° at this pond at the top of the hill they say 21 k but it could be as long as some years. It's longer than others but the year they.

30:22.68

Max Shank

Jesus None obstacles for this spartan race. Um, good god.

30:35.26

mikebledsoe

The year that they told me it was gonna be thirteen miles and end up being 18 Ah so at least well it's 30 obstacles. So it's we'll say it's thirteen miles so hop marathon plus thirty obstacles.

30:42.96

Max Shank

Dude, that's that's like a None marathon at least is what we're talking. We're talking about a None marathon.

30:52.92

Max Shank

Oh.

30:54.39

mikebledsoe

Where you're carrying heavy things up and down the mountain. Ah, you know, maybe a hundred to two hundred yards at a time. So it's.

30:58.73

Max Shank

Wow I'm interested to look into the obstacles a little bit more it sounds exciting but it doesn't sound like what I would want to actually do it. It does seem more fun.

31:12.67

mikebledsoe

Yeah I mean that's why I.

31:17.99

Max Shank

Then a race I saw that went through Death Valley 120 or something miles finished started in Death Valley hottest place in the world and then finished at the base of Mount Whitney in California and I just happened to we just drove through it. On the way back from tahoe and we saw these ah skeletons covered in ah bright white underarmor clothing from head to toe stumbling. It was just I was just thinking I can't think of a worse. Ah, athletic event than. Ah, hundred plus mile run through Death Valley that's obscene to me amazing that we can do it amazing that people can push to that limit.

31:57.25

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. It is obscene. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, well anyways, yeah, a few years ago I ran the race. We peeled off smoke the joint and there were half the people running by were jealous and the other half were disgusted.

32:21.87

Max Shank

Yeah I think it'll be a different percentage now. Probably I think less discussed more more jealousy. It's one of those things.

32:23.28

mikebledsoe

That we would do such a thing during a race.. What do you think?? What do you think it's going to be probably probably people people are having to learn how to enjoy themselves and the people that are gonna come out in race right now. Probably. Ah, a little bit looser.

32:46.89

Max Shank

I'm surprised that ah Spartan had that many prudes Anyway I think it's more of a judgment call because I bet there are a bunch of booze bags judging that right.

32:53.20

mikebledsoe

I Don't you know I don't know I don't think so I think a lot of them are pretty clean.

32:58.29

Max Shank

I Mean not personally like you know I'm not into kink shaming like whatever you want to do coffee ah cocoa puffs like that's a cereal right? Coco puffs like chocolate Chocolate Mu Balls essentially.

33:15.61

mikebledsoe

It's a it's a dessert disguised as a breakfast.

33:17.67

Max Shank

But food is drugs. Coffee is drugs alcohol is drugs weed is drugs you might as well take something that's going to make your endurance better I mean that's that's definitely something right? That's what you're talking about that's what weed's for endurance. Wow.

33:30.70

mikebledsoe

That's what the weeds for yeah oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, um, t hc binds the same receptor as ah, the name of it is eskating me but it's up. It's it's what causes the runners high and so Tc binds are the same one so you basically fall into that groove a lot sooner and the more time you spend in that groove the better your endurance is going to be because your nervous system is in a rhythm and it's.

33:48.80

Max Shank

1

34:03.29

Max Shank

Um.

34:04.90

mikebledsoe

It's calm and you're breathing really well and so ah, yeah, cannabis is ah you know amongst the people who know about it. There's a lot of endurance athletes who use it and it's it's great for that. Not great for picking up something heavy None time or moving incredibly fast. But for for repetitive motion over a long period of time. It's ah it's a wonderful substance.

34:31.63

Max Shank

Um, definitely an endurance performance enhancer.

34:36.51

mikebledsoe

Yeah, one of my favorite things to do when I was living in California was eating edible wait an hour and then just go run on the beach until I got tired I like go run on the beach I'd get tired I'd go swimming I'd run a little more go swimming crawl around.

34:53.80

Max Shank

Um, sounds pretty complex and scientific ah program design there. Ah.

34:53.88

mikebledsoe

Ah, was fucking weird about there.

35:03.81

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, um, you do we want to get in the power of no.

35:09.15

Max Shank

Yeah, because you need to set some boundaries so that you can make your spartan race training a little bit more serious none of this like I'm going to sit on my ass for ten months and then just train for two months we need. We need to set boundaries. For spartan training year-round. It's time for you to take this seriously.

35:30.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah, Well I Think what you're getting at is you know when I when I think about boundaries and the power of no like boundaries is your ability to say no and there's internal boundaries and then external Boundaries. So Most people I find that I get ah angry when I. When I cross my internal boundaries I might project that out on somebody else, but the yeah the internal boundaries I got to tell myself no to staying up late when I know I'm gonna train the next day I gotta be able to tell myself no to eating that donut or whatever it is and.

36:00.44

Max Shank

On here.

36:07.55

mikebledsoe

That can be really really difficult. But I think that at the core of that is really good I'm surrounded by good stuff. It's um, it's unfair.

36:08.92

Max Shank

Especially if the stuff is really good like like saying no to broccoli is way easier than saying no to crack probably probably I think ah.

36:18.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah I. Oh Man I Once had a friend who had tried crackout and he was like dude you should definitely try it because it's so good and don't know like make sure you don't know where to get more because you'll go get more. Oh go. Okay.

36:43.00

Max Shank

Um, I mean he clearly doesn't think you're a very good detective but like you have this mind altertering experience. That's like nothing you've ever had and you're.

36:43.61

mikebledsoe

That sounds like I'm not going to try it. Yeah.

37:00.30

Max Shank

Willingness to do some detective work to find someone is like 0 I mean you could find crack.

37:02.96

mikebledsoe

That's what you got like have someone drop you off on a desert island for like a week and then you know hit it on the first day. So I think that's the way that's how you have to go.

37:11.92

Max Shank

Um, how to do crack by Mike Blood so how to ah.

37:17.74

mikebledsoe

Um, but yeah, going back to the boundaries. The no is like telling yourself no is basically parenting yourself most people don't have good internal boundaries and they do a bunch of shit that they know that if they let children do that same thing. They would be doing that child a disservice.

37:41.20

Max Shank

I've heard that when you can parent yourself is when you are considered an adult. That's one definition that I like of it I'm I'm not there yet myself. Um.

37:46.79

mikebledsoe

Yep. Um, that's a definition I like to run around with.

37:56.50

Max Shank

With everything ah or or or am I I mean something I think about is like you're really just making bets cost benefit analysis. So as long as you're getting what you want out of it. That's.

37:56.51

mikebledsoe

No, not with everything I think it's a lifelong thing adulting.

38:15.15

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and over time though.

38:15.58

Max Shank

It's all good like do I drink too much coffee. That's that's a question I've been thinking about lately because I drink a lot of coffee maybe like four four ah diluted cups a day.

38:22.32

mikebledsoe

Why have you been thinking about it.

38:30.70

mikebledsoe

So what? What? What? What? Why could that? be bad for you.

38:33.12

Max Shank

Pour in oh I have no idea I mean I've I've read into like some of the reasons why but I just wonder if it's if it's worth being such a regular part of the routine and and there's not really ah, a clear and definitive answer on it.

38:49.00

mikebledsoe

I think that coffee was popularized as a healthy thing by bulletproof Dave Asprey did a really good job of making it. Okay, um oh yeah.

39:00.88

Max Shank

Um, you think so I thought I thought it was like reasonably healthy before.

39:06.71

mikebledsoe

Um I don't think it was held on the same pedestal I mean it's considered like a health product. At this point if you buy the right coffee you're drink you're drinking the smart intelligent healthy coffee. But if you drink the other coffee. You're just a.

39:14.91

Max Shank

In.

39:20.99

Max Shank

Um, well, it's like how about smart water. How about that brand Are you kidding me as Genius The bottles are very liked by hikers because they're pretty sturdy and very lightweight but we were thinking about the branding of smart water.

39:25.66

mikebledsoe

Yeah, muggle.

39:31.57

mikebledsoe

Blew it away.

39:40.92

Max Shank

That that takes a lot of balls right? Smart I mean you would think someone must have thought of that before but look at that smartwater the smart coach.

39:48.50

mikebledsoe

Maybe maybe I should have called my business. The smart coach instead of the strong coach.

39:58.97

Max Shank

I Mean technically that's more what you would want.

39:59.00

mikebledsoe

Ah, the smart Coach fuck.

40:03.36

Max Shank

You just have you just have pictures of these like really buff idiots. Ah I ah man. Okay, so look boundaries being able to say no.

40:12.35

mikebledsoe

Ah, er.

40:23.30

Max Shank

To yourself is that's basically wisdom right? because you're not going purely off instinct and we talked a little bit about intuition and instinct in the pre-show today right? Well, there's a pre-show and you'll see my nipples.

40:34.10

mikebledsoe

Ah, we didn't mention the pre-show.

40:42.69

Max Shank

I at least show them on camera. So if you're listening, you'll know when they're there and we talk about some pretty cool stuff I liked the pre-show today.

40:50.17

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the pre-show was loaded with good content today and and personal sharing information. so yeah yeah yeah so um at some point.

40:59.95

Max Shank

That's true. There was some good personal sharing. It's like a little therapy session for all of us there.

41:07.75

mikebledsoe

The bloodsideher dot Com I'll have a link set up so that you can get access to the ah the membership site which will be donation based. That's all all back to boundaries.

41:13.65

Max Shank

Um, Boom back to boundaries boundaries with yourself say no to drugs such a funny phrase right? I mean that's why I always love coffee as the example, right? they're they're talking about like crack and that stuff. Um. Being able to say no to other people is not a skill that everyone has. They're really concerned that people won't like them anymore if they draw the boundary they actually want and what's funny is sometimes that's true because you're growing up. People are pretty immature. And then you're an adult and people are still pretty immature and if you do something that someone doesn't like they'll treat you different. So It's normal that you would try to be either accommodating or more dominating in order to get.. It's like whatever ah strategy you learned. And so if you're one of the accommodating Types. You're going to feel really nervous to say no to people and I can I can take a lot to get back into the rotation and like I said earlier the people who you draw those boundaries with suddenly are going to feel ah like whiplash.

42:14.92

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

42:29.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the um yeah, you're you're when you set a new boundary or you know, maybe it's a boundary that you've had internally that you've never communicated and then you say you know what I'm going to communicate this boundary right now and people.

42:29.30

Max Shank

There's gonna be a shock.

42:48.33

mikebledsoe

Are expecting you to behave a certain way and when you verbalize a boundary for the None time you break that expectation and when people expect something to happen and it doesn't happen. They get they get attached to whatever story that. They have you in and when you when you fuck that story up by setting a new boundary. They yeah is really interesting how they might respond I think that's one of those things where ah that I've learned through a lot of the personal development work I've done is. I I might come out of a workshop and go. Oh Yeah I I have not been I discovered this boundary I've had I haven't been communicating it and then now my homework is to go communicate it and the process of and it takes a lot of courage to do that because the process of of. The unknown like by doing that you're stepping into the unknown you have no idea how the other person is going to respond and it's going to cause that person some level of stress consciously or or subconsciously and that's to me the practice of surrender is really. Saying what's true for you and then just again, we go back to paying attention paying attention to what how people respond to that and then adjust from there but there's no way to predict how someone's gonna ah respond to a new boundary I say most of the time when I'm. When I have a worst case scenario in my head about how someone's gonna respond to me. It almost never comes True. It's like that. The anticipation of how this person might respond to this is way worse.

44:31.54

Max Shank

Right. Well I've been holding back a lot. Actually I don't want to hurt your feelings you seem sensitive to me. Ah, all joking aside, um I agree with you completely.

44:43.47

mikebledsoe

Ah I am very sensitive. Yeah.

44:55.10

Max Shank

I think that when you are used to being accommodating and I'm not saying it's bad to be accommodating, but basically you fall into what I call a predictable strategy. It's just a predictable strategy or predictable plan. I learned that if I do this thing then I get this response and like you were saying we prefer that known pain or discomfort of not being true to ourselves to the unknown of holy fuck will will this person say that they hate me will they tell me to go fuck myself if i. Draw the boundary that I actually want to draw and there's even that that Mark Twain quote because I know you're big fan of Twain. He said that his tailor was the only reasonable man he ever met because he took my measurement new each time while everybody else. Measured me against who I was and I always thought that was a really nice None expectations not being met is kind of the root of all disappointment necessarily right? So people get mad when their expectations are not met. They get sad and their expectations are not. Matt but really, it's just an attachment to this future outcome and if you can get curious about the future to me. That's the best forward thinking mentality because it has a little bit of. Joy a little bit of excitement and it also kind of I think harmonizes the relationship with the unknown a little bit. It makes it a little more of a positive thing like when you say oh the storms can be unpredictable. You're like whoa. It's like a scary unknown almost. But. You're like I'm curious to see um, what the what the weather is like tomorrow. It feels very different. Yeah, so basically you're.

46:53.82

mikebledsoe

Very different energy.

47:01.72

Max Shank

By not drawing your boundary. You're admitting that you're attached to the response of the other person and and you think that is actually more valuable in your cost benefit analysis than saying what you really feel which would be drawing a boundary.

47:06.14

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

47:17.71

mikebledsoe

Saying No yeah I think I think um, ah yeah, big big part of the the pinch we're in in the world right? now is a lack of people I think sought out.

47:21.19

Max Shank

Yeah, it's pretty big. It's big month.

47:37.55

mikebledsoe

To be to to harmonize and to not rock the boat and so there's kind of like a death by a thousand cuts is like oh you know what? because values and boundaries go hand in hand this um that this value has been. You know I'm doing something or going along with something. It's not really in alignment with my values but it seems like the rest of the group want Yeah yeah, yeah.

48:02.98

Max Shank

The greater good the greater good the greater good. It's same old story man the great the greater good. You can convince people of just about anything if it's for some sort of greater. Good.

48:18.58

mikebledsoe

Um, how vague is the greater good like when people say the greater good.

48:24.13

Max Shank

What's more vague. Nothing is more vague. The great or bad I mean like it's It's a ridiculous phrase. It's this. It's this totally. Um, unscientific assumption that if you concentrate the decision making.

48:30.22

mikebledsoe

It's a ridiculous phrase.

48:41.76

Max Shank

To this guy. It'll be overall better off and we still don't know demonetized here. We come de you monetized. We still don't know if our ah emergency break reaction to whatever the fuck has been going on the last couple of years actually is better than doing literally nothing other than saying hey if you ah if you want to stay home. You can we? We don't know which would have been better and I'm not saying that would have been better but historically speaking. Ah. Bureaucrats usually make things about None to None times worse with what they do than if they had just done nothing and let people figure it out through consensual exchange.

49:34.70

mikebledsoe

No yeah, the the but I think the greater good thing is also interesting is I don't think most people see it as ah, giving control to a centralized group of people or individual. It's.. It's like um, it's when they say like they you know they say they're not even talking about an individual.. There's this.. There's this ominous so that's how I know that someone believes in God is when they they say things like the greater good like there's some. Magical being and my definition of God is different. But when I I run I Run I run into atheists all the time that believe in a in a being a magical being that knows what's the best for everybody and so.

50:12.34

Max Shank

So so it's like a unifying idea for you. Ah.

50:27.56

Max Shank

Um, does this magical being have a name.

50:28.79

mikebledsoe

But they're not. They're not even um, well it's it's probably whoever their favorite anchor is on the news or the you know or the newspaper that's in the the blue package the blue.

50:38.59

Max Shank

Here.

50:47.93

mikebledsoe

Rapper the New York Times you know as long as the New York Times said it you know now. Yeah, so it's like late they actually they they actually don't have. There's no end of they're not. They're not in recognition that they're even giving power to an individual because there's this.

50:52.94

Max Shank

I see Yeah so I God is like.

51:06.74

mikebledsoe

There's this mass media machine that is is spitting out this narrative and so anything. That's not that isn't for the greater good like that's that's in service of the greater. Good. So The fact that I think it's it's ah it's an interesting little trap that people find themselves in is because they're. Saying it's for the greater. Good. They believe it's for the greater good but they don't actually they're not I don't think most of those people are in recognition that they're giving power to a centralized control of people who who may not actually be that informed or that Um, what's the word I'm looking for.

51:27.67

Max Shank

Right.

51:45.43

mikebledsoe

Altruistic You know they they they believe that the people are doing the best they can. They're like them. That's that's the most that that's the they're like me. It's a lack of it's ah it's an inability for things like empathy. So the people who feel as though they're the most empathetic.

51:45.60

Max Shank

Um, right like them this they're like me.

52:03.49

mikebledsoe

Are usually the least empathetic because their their empathy is the projection of themselves instead of recognizing that people are different.

52:08.20

Max Shank

Well, it's elevation through depression like you have these victims and that elevates you you put yourself as the hero you have to put them as the victim. That's why I don't want to be anybody's savior. It's It's not a cool role.

52:22.92

mikebledsoe

No.

52:25.11

Max Shank

You know you don't want to be victims I don't want to be a hero just be a guy I think the way you're thinking of God a phrase struck me. It's intrinsic belief or intrinsic believability and that's kind of what God is. Like who who's your God is who you trust without really understanding. There's no reason to a lot of people worship money kind of like God or Worship. Um the state as a God Yeah yeah.

52:54.10

mikebledsoe

It's probably the biggest God I know of yeah, well when I say the biggest I mean the majority of the population is it. Worships money anything.

53:02.46

Max Shank

Way more people believe in money than believe in a Christian Catholic or whatever like any one of those.

53:09.00

mikebledsoe

Yeah, anyone well any any Christian like 99% of christians believe more in money than they do they do in the Christian god.

53:17.72

Max Shank

Oh snap smackdown.

53:22.32

mikebledsoe

Do you spend more time thinking about money or do you spend more time thinking about God where whatever you wherever you spend wherever you spent your attention is what you worship and that is your god.

53:27.19

Max Shank

Oh My God roasted I think you're probably right. Let he who is without Sin cast The None stone.

53:41.81

mikebledsoe

He.

53:43.20

Max Shank

Let he who is without sin cast the None stone. Oh you're you're calling out these non-believing christians for their lack of true faith right? they're they're pretending

53:47.12

mikebledsoe

Was was that in reference to.

54:02.15

Max Shank

They're pretending to love their religion but really they love money way more and they're not open and honest about that.

54:04.93

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a it's a something that makes people feel better about themselves.

54:11.44

Max Shank

Oh yeah, I mean and I think ah in many cases I've seen religion be super constructive for some people. So yeah.

54:18.39

mikebledsoe

I Think it's I think it's constructed for most people I think most people lack order in their lives. They they do want someone else to tell them what to do how to live their life. Most people have zero moral compass. Ah.

54:31.50

Max Shank

Ah, but they don't do it at the barrel of a gun right? I Think that's what I like better about religion is it still giving you structure for the flow kind of what we were talking about before ah you need to have that structure for the flow.

54:37.10

mikebledsoe

They're not.

54:48.14

mikebledsoe

And what you're saying is it's voluntary.

54:50.62

Max Shank

Um, yeah, it's consensual. It's consensual is awesome baby. Nothing's hotter than consent I think it's pretty cool.

54:58.63

mikebledsoe

The the yeah yeah, what I what I think is funny. Is you got a bunch of ah I was in a conversation last night about ah blue states versus red states and getting in the conversation now.

55:12.25

Max Shank

In like a fight. It would be no contest be over so quick. Can you imagine if we just reverted to like an all out battle every 4 years. Amazing.

55:17.51

mikebledsoe

Um.

55:23.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, ah the yeah.

55:30.83

Max Shank

Who we'd be more civil. The rest of the year too if we could just get it out. Not quite purge. Love not not purge like you know you get in the ring. You take a few punches with boxing gloves on.

55:34.76

mikebledsoe

Like ah like ah one day a year like the purge. Yeah.

55:44.52

mikebledsoe

Yeah, ah ah the reason I bring this up is like that the left and the right are interesting because like on the left. They really believe in consent when it comes to anything that's sexual in nature like there's but but when it comes to anything else.

55:58.12

Max Shank

Ah, yeah.

56:04.56

mikebledsoe

There's complete blindness to it and on the right? yeah and on the right they they want consent for certain things but completely disregard other things like people.

56:06.64

Max Shank

Um, it's like a mental illness both ways like how could you believe it's so weird.

56:19.61

mikebledsoe

I say this regularly like when people I'm talking to someone and they go what's wrong. Why do those people do this but then they do this. It doesn't add up and I go yeah most of what people are doing doesn't add up because they lack principles. They they.

56:32.44

Max Shank

Well um, almost everybody's a hypocrite on some level by the way like let's not put even ourselves up on like that high of a pedestal right? like everybody's working with that.

56:36.20

mikebledsoe

On some level. But percentage wise the amount of our life that we make decisions around are more principle based than the average person. The average person is going with Pop. Whatever's popular right? people go people want to be accepted by the group so they do what's popular. They don't.

56:51.78

Max Shank

God I Hope So yeah, true, true True true.

57:00.59

mikebledsoe

They're not running it through a filter of what are my values. What are my boundaries. What are my principle. What are the principles and by the way you don't get to choose the principles. The principles are are around us. Yeah, as I that's.

57:10.32

Max Shank

My body my choice across the board. My body my choice across the board that is what you're talking about that's why that's that's the only example because the only question the only important question just to cut through all this bullshit is who decides that's it.

57:17.87

mikebledsoe

A perfect example.

57:29.33

Max Shank

Do I decide or does some other guy decide. That's the only question that matters politically ever is who decides anytime it starts to get confusing. Just ask the question who decides and the argument crumbles for people who want to I don't know Gatekeeper A lady's vagina. People want to add some experimental fucking injections into your skin ah with the shortest track record of any kind of thing like that ever I mean these are both signs of mental illness to believe 1 about 1 and another about the other. It's ah. It's really weird. It almost forces people who are hyper left or hyper right to be mentally Ill like you have to shut off your thinking brain to think those are like some but.

58:19.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah there's um, you know we look at like Socrates and talking about what what makes someone human it was ah practicing having the practice of being in touch with reality being in greater contact with reality. And this and this inability inability to see ah the principle at play like just completely unable ah is is being out of touch with reality.

58:38.84

Max Shank

Pretty pretty nebulous.

58:46.20

Max Shank

A.

58:53.84

Max Shank

I Like the dune experiment for figuring out if he's a human where they put his hand in the pain box and say if he takes it out. They'll cut his throat with a poisonous needle so he has to withstand tremendous pain.

58:56.13

mikebledsoe

In which.

59:01.65

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

59:11.60

Max Shank

Thinking He's like sacrificing his burning hand in order to keep his life and I think that is kind of the secret to wealth and planning and any of that is can you see can you see the big picture. Can you see the forest for the trees and the trick is you can't see the forest. And the trees at the same time so you have to alternate you have to cycle you have to hone in like a laser on something and then you got to open up your awareness like a lantern and take in everything around you to make sure that you're still focusing your energy. In the right direction kind of like we talked about with structure versus flow structure as the pipe flow is water if you don't have ah that that rushing water channeled somehow. Well you're just moving along with the River and that's fine, but you're going to go in the same direction as the rest of the water.

01:00:03.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, and I the some my practice over time is I've had a easier time in my life being zoomed out than zoomed in and um I don't know if that's.

01:00:15.98

Max Shank

Are.

01:00:21.86

mikebledsoe

I would say that I could spend more time zoomed in I still spend more time zoomed in but I noticed that the amount of time I spent on considering when I think about expanding my awareness around something that lantern there's there's 2 ah dimensions to consider one is space and the other one is time.

01:00:23.57

Max Shank

Indian.

01:00:41.80

mikebledsoe

And so there's there's what's happening right now and there's what I want to happen in None ears There's also what's happening right now in the space that I'm in but what's happening in you know, Dc right now or just right down the street like how much. How much space can you consider and how much time can you consider when you're making your decisions when you're setting the vision. What how much can you consider? most people don't practice that expansion of time and space when setting the vision.

01:01:04.70

Max Shank

How many variables go into your decision making equation right.

01:01:18.30

mikebledsoe

Or making decisions. Um and because of that for anyone who is unable to do that. They're more easily to be controlled by someone who does do that.

01:01:29.19

Max Shank

Absolutely Um I think the average person is constantly pushed and pulled by a variety of forces to do things that are as frictionless as possible and for them as Motionless as possible. And those are forces. Um from a software engineering standpoint from a psychological engineering standpoint and also from an evolutionary standpoint.. There's nothing better for a curious lazy Monkey mind who's trying to maximize efficiency to just sit around and Watch. An Endless stream of crazy shit. So if you don't draw that Boundary. You're never going to pick your head up and ah like I'm not trying to call anyone out or anything but you see some of these kids these days. Fucking kids I hate that phrase. What am I doing that for these kids these days I feel old saying that feel silly I don't feel old until I talk like that. But basically they're like looking straight down into the telephone and it's adults too. Don't get me wrong while they're walking. Maybe they walk.

01:02:26.28

mikebledsoe

You're so old.

01:02:42.30

Max Shank

Into traffic. Maybe they walk off a cliff something like that. But it's the perfect visual of someone who's so ah, locked in psychologically onto something that isn't even really good for them and when we talk about drawing boundaries for ourselves like I'm going to say no to crack today every day I'm like. I'm going to say no to crack and every day I have so far and it feels like a little like a little victory like I didn't do crack again and ah if I do crack though. It'll be bad.

01:03:02.63

mikebledsoe

Yes.

01:03:10.84

mikebledsoe

We also you also have like ah we have a record breaking ah amount of kids on things like Sslris on antidepressants and anti-angolytics things that things that dep.

01:03:21.60

Max Shank

Yeah, those are good drugs Mike those are good drugs. They're just good for you. Everyone should be on those right? They're on the Tv isn't it like 75% of commercials pharmaceutical ones.

01:03:30.80

mikebledsoe

You know what's interesting is think about this? Yeah, it's It's a lot. Ah every news.

01:03:39.84

Max Shank

There's got to be something wrong with you. Are you watching the Tv there's something wrong.

01:03:42.48

mikebledsoe

Um, well,, there's ah, there's a theory that ah one of the reasons that the government is so friendly to pharmaceutical companies is that when under the influence of these these drugs that. People become docile way more easy to control like like please pass the xanax out please pass What I don't know these drugs are called anymore.

01:04:01.33

Max Shank

Holy yeah, totally totally.

01:04:09.90

Max Shank

If I was going to get a bus full of people on a field trip and I had the choice between giving them heroin or crack at the beginning I would clearly choose heroin every time they would be mostly still.

01:04:20.86

mikebledsoe

Exactly.

01:04:25.87

Max Shank

Could be like hey we're going over to this bench over here way easier to control that that doesn't surprise me one bit.

01:04:31.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, so yeah I've heard discussions of you know? ah the food supply being fucked up in certain ways intentionally as well to reduce the amount of testosterone that men have because.

01:04:46.70

Max Shank

When people get afraid also like a ah scared stoned guy. He'll do anything. He'll do anything you want that guy is scared and stoned. You're like hey I need your left leg but I'll protect you until tomorrow. Thank God you're here.

01:04:59.19

mikebledsoe

Yeah, could you imagine I was I was the last couple years I've just been thinking about people popping and all these pills and then watching Tv so you're you're popping pills and watching Tv you have no autonomy you you are.

01:05:03.20

Max Shank

Ah. Oh My god.

01:05:15.70

mikebledsoe

You are a hundred percent slave at that point and pc what's that.

01:05:17.73

Max Shank

Npc Baby Npcs a non-player character I'm ah showing my nerd card here. But ah when you're when you're playing ah an rpg or a role playing game I don't play a lot of them these days but there were some good ones. A non-player character is character in the game um played by the computer software. It's not another person like you or me it's just like a software thing and they they respond very predictably. You know.

01:05:45.78

mikebledsoe

Um, well isn't this like some somewhat of the premise of the matrix and.

01:05:50.65

Max Shank

Very much so the premise of the matrix even more so the premise of that was it free guy I think I saw it free free free guy. It's like ah ah no, no, no, it's deadpool it isn.

01:06:01.39

mikebledsoe

What's that oh is that the Markie Mark film Ryan ran oh yeah yeah I saw that.

01:06:10.55

Max Shank

Ryan Reynolds and he's ah he's like a video game character that comes to life somehow with some general ai code and it's kind of a fun like a rite of passage I guess his rite of passage is going from like a. Ah, computer character like ah do this I go to the bank. Whatever to like a regular.

01:06:32.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and he wakes up and he's like like something something wakes him up. Yeah.

01:06:37.63

Max Shank

Something clicks different I can't remember exactly what it yeah matrix same way as like wake up Neo and then so you're right.

01:06:43.57

mikebledsoe

Well, that's a think the thing that I that I that I um get curious about because I I think these movies are good. Analogies is in the movie. The matrix he talks about how like anyone who. Has not woken up yet has to be considered an enemy but you're also trying to turn them all the time you're trying to wake them up the whole time. So. It's a very.. It's an interesting.. How do you approach people who are the was an npg Npc how.

01:07:06.40

Max Shank

A.A.

01:07:20.57

Max Shank

Npc.

01:07:22.50

mikebledsoe

How do you approach Npcs with compassion. You know they're while also recognizing and when I now now that I'm speaking out loud I'm thinking they're not necessarily the enemy. They're just dangerous.

01:07:26.31

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:07:35.18

Max Shank

Yes, that you know it's funny. You said that because as soon as I heard the word enemy it felt wrong, but dangerous feels absolutely right? You have to set those boundaries like we talked about before but then that's where compassion and curiosity come in.

01:07:41.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:07:54.72

Max Shank

Like do you blame a dog if it was beaten its whole life and for me I look at folks and I just don't tolerate their behavior but I also don't like judge them as evil for it like I don't tolerate Behavior I don't want.

01:08:08.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:08:12.64

Max Shank

But it's not about that individual I don't judge that individual just the same way I don't judge the dog that had bad owners and you you think about how many generations of Shitty Shitty parents on every level not just biological parents. But also. The prevailing myths of the land and time that we're in the people on the Tv all that shit just generation of generation of people doing anything they can to like feel safe and maybe even loved. Let alone self-actualized fuck that for most people loves love is a stretch for most people and I think the more you ah the more a person is kept in lizard mode in that fight or flight the faster and less. Um.

01:08:52.89

mikebledsoe

That's terrifying. Um.

01:09:09.80

Max Shank

The faster they'll respond and the less ah thoughtfulness rationality and logic and wisdom. They'll use to make that decision. They'll just react fearfully.

01:09:15.98

mikebledsoe

Well yeah, because it's a reaction. Well one it's quick and 2 It's predictable like if you if you know somebody pretty well if you know an individual pretty well I mean we've all did this. Ah you know I've done this when I was a lot more when I was younger and I was a little more cruel.

01:09:22.89

Max Shank

Right.

01:09:35.71

mikebledsoe

Like oh watch this I'm gonna say this something to this guy and he's gonna fucking flip his shit right now and I would say it and they would flip their shit I'm like and I would get kicks it make me make me laugh. You know.

01:09:41.64

Max Shank

Oh really.

01:09:49.33

Max Shank

Ah, so you fucked with idiots for sport How very cool.

01:09:52.49

mikebledsoe

Well yeah I mean this was this was something in the Navy to like in the military. It's you know there's a little bit of like brotherly cruelty going on. Yeah I don't do it anymore. But but it it.

01:09:56.49

Max Shank

Um, ah I'm not saying it's bad. Yeah I think mockery is really good I think mockery is like a lighthearted form of criticism.

01:10:12.39

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it. It comes it. It comes with a lot of predictability though and I always love um, extrapolating the individual out to culture and so you have these people who've been studying How does society React. Society doesn't thoughtfully pause and respond they society draw cold is it? Ah yeah, yeah.

01:10:35.56

Max Shank

Fish Tail Fish Tail I think is the term for it when you over when you overcorrect if you're a skidding in the car and you overcorrect you start fish tailing a little more back and forth mm.

01:10:49.17

mikebledsoe

Why they always talk about the pendulum swinging in culture. So it goes from you know one side to the other. Yeah we definitely I mean just look at what ah went from Trump to Biden like as about as opposite as you can get right? It was a hard swing. It's it's not like they went from 1 person to the center.

01:11:03.97

Max Shank

Um, yeah, right.

01:11:07.91

mikebledsoe

And went like complete left wing puppet mode and um whereas Trump was the uncontrollable bull in the China shop and so it was like people were like okay I don't we don't like this mess I don't like like this makes me.

01:11:17.76

Max Shank

Any.

01:11:27.18

mikebledsoe

Uncomfortable like what's who's going to be the least threatening person who's just going to go along with everything possible. Oh it's this guy So like the fish tale The the fish tale like it's right. It's like that. There's an overcorrection.

01:11:33.20

Max Shank

Um, well ah man.

01:11:44.43

mikebledsoe

So does it. There's just keep swinging harder and harder like are we going to get like ah I think I think it I think I think the next Ronald Reagan is next in that case.

01:11:49.41

Max Shank

Typically I think that's how it works.

01:11:55.71

Max Shank

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that. But ah.

01:11:56.89

mikebledsoe

What was he yet. Ah Jimmy Carter he was a 1 term democrat the end of the seventy s he was probably he was considered the worst president ever by a lot of people and then um and then Reagan came along in just it was a landslide and ah.

01:12:08.20

Max Shank

And.

01:12:16.13

mikebledsoe

I mean I think who who's coming in next like yeah I'm just I'm just throw it out. There's like I think we're gonna see like a a pretty right winger come into Desantis. Yeah.

01:12:19.81

Max Shank

It's a good question. Yeah. Probably that Florida guy will win at some point in the near future. That's my guess he seems like like some kind of war veteran seems like pretty squeaky but I don't I don't really follow it I just have this understanding that. Along with the idea of god being intrinsic believability. We have the same thing with the wings. Unfortunately so as soon as someone puts on the blue t-shirt and says I'm on the blue team. Even even if that guy is fucking a rapacious idiot. Everyone with a blue t-shirt ons like yeah, we like that guy. He only fucking rapes those red guys like okay and then and then the red guys will do like the same thing and they're like yeah fuck those gay guys putting on wedding rings or whatever I don't I don't know exactly what it is but but it's stupid. It's like why.

01:13:08.92

mikebledsoe

I.

01:13:19.26

mikebledsoe

Ah, a.

01:13:22.59

Max Shank

Why we?? Ah, but it's um, it's specialization just like you get the Electrician to do your electrical shit because he has better specialization. We have this idea that someone will choose better, but that's just not the case. That's why you vote with your feet you vote with your dollars. It's never going to be better. The only. Like the smartest thing The founding fathers did was the separation of power separation of church and State Boom Boom right? off the bat that was huge and then they tried to separate the the state itself even more. So So you're trying to divide up the power. But of course the ultimate division of power is called.

01:13:49.73

mikebledsoe

Or they were boop. Yeah.

01:14:01.41

Max Shank

The customer. So the customer just buys. Whatever the fuck they want to and no one can force them to but whatever the pendulum swings I don't want to talk about fucking constitution every week Mike okay I get it.

01:14:12.65

mikebledsoe

Ah I want you did that to you. You did that to yourself.

01:14:19.33

Max Shank

I did to myself and I'm mad now.

01:14:22.38

mikebledsoe

Ah, he's so red in the face right now folks so red in the face. He's he's worked up.

01:14:34.68

Max Shank

Ah, oh God It's awesome.

01:14:37.46

mikebledsoe

Oh I know we're to take the show now.

01:14:41.31

Max Shank

We went off the rail so long ago we didn't even talk much about lake to Lake Tahoe was beautiful I was just there. It was really nice. It was one of the most relaxing times I've ever had I was there. Ah there four days ago.

01:14:49.20

mikebledsoe

What are you doing late tahoe. Ah, then we whip last you back here you got me on the show and just like.

01:15:00.18

Max Shank

I'm experiencing my boundaries being crossed really hard right now. Ah it was amazing I sat in a river at the top of a waterfall overlooking ah Lake Tahoe and Cascade Lake is 1 of the most beautiful views ever.

01:15:17.23

mikebledsoe

I Know what you're talking about where where do you? where do you like to stay when you grew up there.

01:15:18.17

Max Shank

So um, you know lately. We've been going up to ah heavenly. So right on the state line. Um I've stayed in a vehicle a couple times also and there's ah on on the Nevada in Nevada.

01:15:28.50

mikebledsoe

Yep, that's where I stay most of time I I used to say where.

01:15:37.35

Max Shank

So you know how there's that imaginary line between the places called Nevada and California you're you're legally allowed to sleep in a vehicle in Nevada so rent divan rent an Rv Boom Boom Boom Nevada site there are also like really nice campsites everywhere. But if you're just looking to. Ah.

01:15:38.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:15:56.60

Max Shank

To be there. You just go pop over to the Nevada side hang out there and then do whatever you want in the California side but usually a heavenly state line area on the southeast side is beautiful and that cascade falls in Cascade Lake overlook in ah. Overlooking like tahoe. It's one of the most epic views ever. The fact that you can just like climb in also and get that cool river running around you the sound the view. The feeling of the cold water. It's something that is truly indescribable.

01:16:22.70

mikebledsoe

Yep.

01:16:33.78

mikebledsoe

know know I stay heavenly most of the time when I go I go to 3 times a year I used to go to incline village a lot but which on the Nevada side. But yeah made some friends it really just depends on where my friends are located has.

01:16:34.78

Max Shank

With words. Yeah, it's awesome.

01:16:44.73

Max Shank

Um, that was where I first went to. It's totally man. It's not as ah pop in incline is more quiet for sure much much smaller town.

01:16:53.20

mikebledsoe

Because I got a friend and I got a couple friends and incline I got a couple friends and heavenly. Yeah.

01:17:03.42

Max Shank

Like if you want to like it state line. There are those like 4 or 5 casinos right? right? on the line where it's totally illegal to gamble versus where it's completely deeply encouraged to gamble as much as possible I love lake tahoe.

01:17:06.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:17:20.92

mikebledsoe

It's like heaven.

01:17:22.94

Max Shank

It is. It is a beautiful place I found the greatest breakfast burrito ever of all time. Ah at place called Ver Day bear day mexico oh man Teresa Breakfast Burrito I had ah addd 3

01:17:28.14

mikebledsoe

Oh yeah, ver day.

01:17:40.93

Max Shank

Of them in about 24 hours and they were not small, but if you find something that's good. You stick with it. So I'm like taking burritos on hikes now I ended up in a caloric surplus after all those breakfast book burritos.

01:17:52.76

mikebledsoe

There's a there's a place that does sells solely beef jerky over there I'm not remembering the name of it right now. Highly recommend it. Some of the best jerky I've ever had which is great for hiking when I go hiking I Usually just take beef jerky and honey with me just.

01:17:55.75

Max Shank

Is. Wow.

01:18:06.72

Max Shank

I Think you might get a lot of people going to this ah this tahoe Spartan I Think that's your I think that's your crew, a free entry come on. It is one of the greatest places I've ever been in the world and I've I've traveled a lot of cool places.

01:18:15.27

mikebledsoe

Free entry, beautiful race look and you can now you can now buy weed in both California and Nevada so you can join me on my I suggest thought you know if you're a newbie. 4 or five Milligrams at the starting line if you're a season veteran of of the cannabis game I'll let you make your own decision on how much you take. But I'll be taking around ten milligrams at the starting line and just enjoying the day.

01:18:45.80

Max Shank

Mike is gonna Mike is gonna be selling cannabis kits for the spartan race at the starting line that will get you guaranteed to get you from the start to the finish high as a kite.

01:18:54.13

mikebledsoe

That's right.

01:18:59.52

mikebledsoe

Ah, we're gonna set up a little station along the way is like just in case just in case your joint got wet. We're gonna you know, light you up ass it bring your cash folks.

01:19:02.46

Max Shank

That sounds fair. Oh my god but the price just gets higher every mile further along the road. Oh my gosh. But seriously if you haven't been to Lake Tahoe and you get the chance you gotta to go to Lake Tahoe is

01:19:14.94

mikebledsoe

We only accept Bitcoin actually.

01:19:21.28

Max Shank

Ah, beautiful, Beautiful place.

01:19:22.10

mikebledsoe

Absolutely thanks for selling it? Yeah yeah.

01:19:25.55

Max Shank

Yeah I love lake Tahoe is I think I've been back there more times. Ah, maybe than any other play like I love yosemite also but I just keep going back to Lake Tahoe even though it's an 8 our drive it just it's like nothing else. You can get a nice airbnb up there too for like none to 53 and then of course there's really nice stuff like 1500 ten K a night but for for two hundred bucks you can have a really nice. Base camp with view of the lake showers I'm I'm sold. It's it's maybe maybe my favorite place to actually go so power of no yeah power of no if you don't set boundaries people are going to tell you what to do all the time.

01:20:09.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah I can cur I can cur well wrap it up.

01:20:21.62

Max Shank

And you probably won't even notice because it'll just be a really enticing offer saying no internally to your own actions that continually fuck you up can be really valuable I think that goes all the way from crack to The. Cellular telephone which is just another way that we pleasure ourselves to take our minds out of the moment so we can go be somewhere else and then externally it can be difficult to say no to people. Because their reaction may be unpredictable, but ah, you don't you don't really have your own life If You're always just saying yes to everything. So if you draw those boundaries. Also you will be shocked at how much extra time you have here's ah, here's living proof that I do draw some boundaries. Well. A piece of fabric that I knitted just learned how to knit over the weekend. Pretty nice. You can see the excellent knit stitch there is where I cast on and then bind it off learning the new Lingo So ah, juggling.

01:21:20.53

mikebledsoe

Ah, okay.

01:21:37.32

Max Shank

Knitting prepping for a Spartan race If you draw boundaries you can do it all if you don't draw boundaries you will do ah exactly the most predictable thing with the least amount of effort all the time the natural way.

01:21:51.95

mikebledsoe

Well said I have nothing to add. Um go to Lake Tahoe and um I want to mention that the weekend before lake tahoe spartan race I have the strong coach summit.

01:21:55.38

Max Shank

Um, also go to Lake Tahoe oh

01:22:09.70

mikebledsoe

It is a allinclusive retreat happening here in Austin Texas I rented out a summer camp round 2 I'm doing 2 a year I'm doing a spring and fall. So again, it's ah it's gonna be 3 nights two days of all inclusive retreat and.

01:22:10.91

Max Shank

Um, oh round 2 yeah baby hell yeah.

01:22:28.24

mikebledsoe

Um'm bringing in killer speakers people who have been in the coaching game are going to help people become better coaches learn how to grow their businesses all that stuff and we're gonna have a great time doing it. So I don't have the. Sales page up for that yet but be on the lookout folks market on your calendars September sixteen through None anything you want to mention there max where can people find you max shink dot com there you go.

01:22:58.78

Max Shank

http://maxshank.com @maxshank. Thanks Mikey! Thanks guys! Love you guys. Bye.

01:23:04.65

mikebledsoe

Love you I.

Jul 14, 2022

A self-confessed “recovering shitty father” who knows the world will begin healing when we begin healing fathers, this week’s guest is an expert at helping men successfully perform much needed “inner work”

 

From the healthy regulation + expression of anger and authentic relationship creation, to breaking the chain of generational trauma - this episode has it all

Jul 7, 2022

There is no “secret” to happiness… but there is a science to it

And no one knows that better than this week’s guest, Dr. Gillian Mandich has devoted and committed her life to finding it so people can live their happiest life

Tune in to this week’s episode. You’ll love it

Jul 4, 2022

00:00.00

mikebledsoe

Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're going to be talking about freedom because you know what it is the fourth of July and we are americans and so of course not only are we totally into the conversation today but we're into it. All the time max and I are both lovers of freedom and in our own ways which is kind of like how freedom works you get to do it your way. So thanks for joining me Dave Max so you are begin this topic with you since I think you and I are both. We've spent a lot of time focusing on this topic.

00:41.30

Max Shank

Well thanks for having me once again, it is certainly my favorite topic. It's also what I would like to impart or share with people. Basically when I think about what I would like to share with folks I would like to help them become more free because I don't.

00:54.71

mikebledsoe

Hang on. Yeah.

01:00.59

Max Shank

I don't I don't I don't want to be your Mama I don't want to be responsible for you and that's the beauty of freedom is there's you are responsible for yourself and this other person is responsible for themself and there's interdependence that comes through agreements.

01:03.23

mikebledsoe

I am.

01:19.29

Max Shank

Volitional choices and I think that's amazing. That's what allowed us to get everything going. That's what allowed us to do so well basically hands writing and cooperation. Otherwise we would still just be you know lion food pretty much.

01:30.17

mikebledsoe

I.

01:37.50

Max Shank

You know I'm saying Ah so I I think I would like everyone listening to this to become more free and I think a good way to understand it would be the different types of freedom and then also what's the opposite of freedom and who are the key players and how this all worked.

01:37.97

mikebledsoe

Definitely.

01:56.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um.

01:57.16

Max Shank

So if you don't mind I'd I'd love to kick things off.

02:00.43

mikebledsoe

Kick things off when you got more to say right now is that what you're saying oh well None I want to mention if you want access to the pre-show you have to go to go over to the bloodso show dot com we'll have a link over there to.

02:03.16

Max Shank

Yeah I mean ah yeah I Just I don't want to drone on and on too much. But I think about it like free freedom is a new go for it.

02:20.10

mikebledsoe

Sign up. Ah, we're taking it's a donation based thing I hate word donation. It's value for value pay what you want if you find what be what you want look pay what you want to be in there. Whatever you however, much value you find from this show just you know.

02:24.56

Max Shank

Um, pay what you want I like that phrase. That's that's a better 1 pay what you want.

02:37.52

Max Shank

Well, they can't pay that much. This show is invaluable so pay the intersection of what you value the show and what you can afford.

02:39.37

mikebledsoe

Make it make you know pay as much as you possibly can is.

02:50.61

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, so that keeps us ah, trucking along. And yeah, if you go up there if if you're listening on the day that we post this that link is not going to quite be up yet. But if you're listening in a few days from now I should have that up in the next week so

02:57.20

Max Shank

It will have.

03:08.77

mikebledsoe

We're Goingnna give some exclusive content there posting some short videos of our pre-show which sometimes I think what's happening in the preshow is more valuable than what's happening here. There's a little more put together. But you miss all the ramblings. That ah happened and in fact, if you go listen to today's pre-show you get to hear max's poem that he wrote this morning. Yeah yeah, so he shared a poem to kick that off. So I just want to mention that first. Ah so I appreciate everyone who's I've had.

03:30.89

Max Shank

Oh that's right.

03:44.95

mikebledsoe

I've had ah people already reach out in the Dms asking me how the hell do I donate someone asked for venmo accounts I was like hold on I was like hold off we're gonna set something up I want to do this proper from the very beginning. So um, they do like us.

03:47.58

Max Shank

Um, oh Wow cool.

03:57.65

Max Shank

They like us. They really like us. Thanks everybody. That's so nice I feel validation that I I used to only feel from the affection of a woman I'm sure no other guys out there ah tried to get all their validation from the affection of women right? That's a mistake.

04:02.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

04:14.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah I've never done that I've never done that. Yeah yeah.

04:17.39

Max Shank

I mean I think that's only a mistake I've made I don't think anybody else talk about a type of slavery right? you you are your sense of self is ah enslaved by the whims and affection of women that's brutal.

04:31.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, which I mean women are pretty much the whole reason we do anything at the end of the day. So yeah, and you know what if I'm a slave to that then fuck it I'm I'm down.

04:37.70

Max Shank

Yo Absolutely for sex and food.

04:46.22

Max Shank

Um, yeah, they're they, they they look and feel nice. Don't they totally worth. Ah, ah.

04:50.78

mikebledsoe

Totally worth it. Totally worth it. Well um, we we had a little conversation during the pre-show that really lights me up which is ah max brought up the word. No. Which I think is at the center of the freedom conversation and there is the internal experience of saying no and that is ah being willing to disappoint others or not meet the expectations of others when someone asks you to do something or be somewhere.

05:25.62

Max Shank

The.

05:27.57

mikebledsoe

You say? No I don't want to um and then there's um, and then there's the the lack of violence when you tell somebody? No,. There's the the external experience of freedom which is. The ability to say no and people actually honor that. Yeah.

05:48.43

Max Shank

Well, it's drawing a line in the sand right? I'm I'm pretty sure the origin of drawing a line in the sand was basically if you cross this I will fuck you up and that's that's really if we have ah differences. That's how we resolve them. We can do it like you and I are doing right now we can talk it out say no and if that knows not respected The only thing left is physical violence which force is the language of cells and the language of life and ah. Even inorganic stuff like rocks I mean force is really what what moves things along which sounds like a funny phrase. But if you draw solid boundaries. You also won't become resentful. That's a big part of it and the biggest part I think. And it's a really hard concept to understand and I bring it up all the time which is opportunity cost if you neglect to say no when it matters then you will prevent yourself from saying yes to things so the cost of not drawing boundaries. Is that you don't get to use that energy for the things that you really want to say yes to so freedom and focus are both related to the word. No and this is true with your health. It's true with your finances. It's true with friendships. It's. Really really important. Um, so that's a big part of it I would also like to today just thank everybody involved for the freedom experiment that you and I are now enjoying in America I think a lot of us. Ah, it's very easy to forget that this is a pretty new concept in terms of how nations are organized. This is a big big group of people united around the concept of freedom. Probably the biggest None ever actually and. Certainly deteriorated a little bit but before that the only type of freedom there was was probably like nomad nomadic tribes and stuff like that. But you're still going to have some sort of a hierarchy. So this idea that everyone is free to do what they like. The pursuit of happiness is a type of magic really and that code and all those people involved set in motion a series of events that allowed for the greatest possible comparative advantage and specialization.

08:37.41

Max Shank

If You are super ambitious about baking muffins and that is all that you want to do you can do that and no one can tell you to do anything otherwise and the cumulative effect of everybody being free to choose out of love what they most want to do. Led to the highest advancement Possible. You're always going to get a much higher passion and performance if the reason or the mission is derived from a place of of love right? so.

09:09.79

mikebledsoe

Yeah, wells gone.

09:13.44

Max Shank

It it wasn't just the people who thank you? It wasn't just the people who wrote the declaration of independence it was a lot of people before that also a lot of it was actually just because of the book common sense by Thomas Paine ah from what I've read and understand. A lot of the guys who signed the declaration of independence just earlier that year were basically thinking. Yeah, we should get back with England we should. We should get back with them and then common sense came out and it's it's worth a read. It's still good. It was the most widely read book ever at the time it it sold more copies than the literacy rate it was outrageous how popular this book was and so it just goes to show the power of an idea.

09:57.40

mikebledsoe

Oh.

10:05.58

Max Shank

Ah, so I I thank Thomas Paine I think the people who who risked a lot I mean there was a lot of bloodshed There was a lot of risks being taken and it's like freedom is basically never given right. It's only taken. And so I I guess I really because I don't have a frame I've ever been to war I've done none of fighting like in a ring with the rare scuffle outside in the world but man I have a really deep appreciation for. All of the people involved and it's still right now there are a lot of people involved with preserving this idea that we are free to do as we please and everyone else is free to do as they please because that's that's not how it went right? right? before this experiment. That's not how it went and I think.

10:56.43

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

11:02.51

Max Shank

A lot of what happened there was a catalyst for the industry and technology that give us different types of freedom I mean you are free from doing your laundry by hand if you have a.

11:21.48

mikebledsoe

But well tech What ah tech comes um I mean I've seen instances where the tech is what preceded the freedom. So for one we can agree on that.

11:21.48

Max Shank

A washing machine and a dryer. It's incredible. So all that tech was because of the freedom I believe.

11:34.39

Max Shank

Freedom Freedom is a technology. Also I think we can agree.

11:40.81

mikebledsoe

Yeah but ah so there's 2 things that really led to ah the the declaration of independence and following that the constitution and ah, what the 2 things that I see that led to that one was the enlightenment period. And that's where guys like John Locke and some other philosophers really laid the groundwork. Um for there was a lot of things happening in Europe and there was these ideas this idea of equal rights was emerging ah in Europe. And it was causing a lot of friction and that's None reason a lot of people came to America was like you know what? I don't want to deal with all this stuff in Europe let's get out of here. Yeah, it's three or four weeks on a boat we might die but fuck it. Let's go and so ah, very bold but the.

12:32.97

Max Shank

Bold very bold.

12:37.88

mikebledsoe

There were these ideas from the enlightenment period that that took hold and the idea of equal rights is that no one person is more has more rights than somebody else which in the end means that I have no right to tell you how to live your life as long as you're not impeding on my.

12:47.32

Max Shank

Oh.

12:57.50

Max Shank

Right.

12:57.22

mikebledsoe

Right? to do what I want so the idea of negative rights comes into play which never exists before. So if you go to Europe now the it the way the their minds work and a lot of americans it works like this too because the the european mindset is you know. I think you and I as long as we've been alive. It seems like a lot of americans think that europe has it more figured out than we do which is kind of weird. Um, yeah, and so.

13:23.16

Max Shank

The grass is greener on the other side. Um, but they don't consider the fact that you pay like a 20% value added tax on like basically everything you know so we have like fractional servitude with these taxations and it's just different place to place right.

13:31.92

mikebledsoe

Everything every step of the Way. Ah. Yeah, so the um, ah so the idea of negative rights comes into play and that is ah everybody had the the negative right is I don't have the right to do anything to cause you to do you know.

13:42.27

Max Shank

Yeah.

13:57.99

mikebledsoe

To stop doing anything you want to do as long as we're not harming each other is basically at the end of the day. That's how negative rights work and this was not a concept that existed prior to about None it was new up into that point everyone believed that the king.

13:59.72

Max Shank

And a.

14:17.80

mikebledsoe

Or the pope or somebody had been granted this authority from god and this is why Ah, this is why so many almost every country has this official religion that's affiliated with and America was the first one that came along. It was like you know what we're not going to do this whole religious thing. Because we're not going to try to tie up the idea of authority with the government and so um and so this whole thing of negative rights comes along and there was if you read the federalist papers and this is a thing that most americans I think really miss out on is they don't. Get the context of the constitution. They don't have the context for the declaration of independence both are are very important I took constitutional law 1 year and the the none month we spent studying the declaration of independence and I was like what is like they told us at the very beginning.

15:11.48

Max Shank

The.

15:16.62

mikebledsoe

We're stuck in declaration of independence first because this actually laid the groundwork for the constitution. So first a lot. Yeah, a lot of people are only looking at the constitution with 0 context. So then so you have the context of the declaration of independence so you need to have that context first.

15:22.91

Max Shank

It's like the sperm and the egg.

15:35.58

mikebledsoe

Most people don't have that and which you know today is the day that you know the the declaration of independence was was made a thing and then um, which was primarily written by Thomas Jefferson I believe and i.

15:42.17

Max Shank

Right. As I understand it. Yeah. We don't know for sure of of course. Well you said something big too which is content without context I Think that's one of the biggest traps that people can fall into like it's It's fine to.

15:53.88

mikebledsoe

No, there were no cameras. It's not an Instagram it's not on Facebook who knows.

16:10.67

Max Shank

Believe you whatever you want to believe but I'm pretty shocked Still you'd think I'd be desensitized to it by now by the by the strength of opinions held based on Absolutely no context whatsoever. It's it's just ah, it's basically just ah, a bird sound.

16:23.36

mikebledsoe

Right.

16:29.15

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

16:30.60

Max Shank

That is repeated like they hear this combination of sounds and then that comes back out again and it's impossible to take into account all of the variables. But ah, it really is if you want to understand something.. It's so important to have context for. What that is and when that might actually be correct.

16:49.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so so the context of something like the constitution is really um, a big topic right now because the supreme court whose primary job is to find out if a law is constitutional or not. That's that's about it.

17:05.89

Max Shank

Right.

17:09.18

mikebledsoe

They don't create laws. They just they make rulings on whether this law is something that could be upheld or not so.

17:15.39

Max Shank

And let's get clear real quick. What's the point of having a state and laws in the None place. It's just to protect property rights that's it. It's that part hasn't changed that is that's the core purpose.

17:29.84

mikebledsoe

That was but but the.

17:34.56

Max Shank

Same with pirates and gangs. It's like basically the guys are like hey we'll offer you protection in exchange for a little bit of your stuff. So It's really like no different than that and when you were talking About. Um. The interplay of negative rights. It. It made me think like okay, well yeah, that's that's the rule is that according to the law. You can't infringe on somebody else's property which is their self and their stuff.

18:09.51

mikebledsoe

Include your body. Yeah.

18:12.94

Max Shank

Yeah yourself and your stuff and but here's the thing like natural law is anyone can do anything. They want any time. So this whole idea of law is really just about consequences if they catch you and that sounds like a little funny but but that's really that's really all it is. If if they catch you. There are consequences if they don't There are basically no consequences So natural law is anyone or or everyone always does what they want and they can they can kill you they can punch you they can say mean things to you. They can steal your stuff. Doesn't matter the whole reason we would put faith in a higher power is if we believed that they would improve our property rights and decrease friction and decrease assault on our persons and so you have to look at the cost Benefit. Of What you're giving up versus what you're getting and I think it's really, um, certainly has split the crowd because a lot of people would agree that for what we ah give or for what we have taken. The ah return on that investment is very bad and not transparent either.

19:29.55

mikebledsoe

Yeah, very bad and and that was actually and that was that was definitely not transparent and that was one of the reasons that you know the the revolutionary war was fought was he's not doing shit for us. He just and just taxing us.

19:41.72

Max Shank

Why should we pay the King he's not doing shit for us over here. He's an ocean away fuck that guy. Yeah, right totally imagine. Yeah.

19:49.55

mikebledsoe

No protection, not providing enough for what he's taking and so that was one of the things that that motivated them. Um, but so I like to bring up the idea of negative rights because there's no such thing as rights outside of negative rights. There's. Anything. That's not a negative right? is what I would call a wrong and so self logic man I'm I'm sorry so I'm really twisting you up here. The thing is is when I talk to people about this sometimes they do.

20:12.65

Max Shank

This is tough logic to follow. Honestly, you got to write it down.

20:21.61

Max Shank

Um, the opposite of a negative right is a wrong.

20:30.83

mikebledsoe

That's right.

20:31.36

Max Shank

I'm pretty I'm pretty sure a negative right is a wrong. But anyway that mathematically.

20:35.16

mikebledsoe

No Ah negative. Well the the the reason well negative rights are rights and you have to the reason we have to use the language negative rights when we used to only have to use the word rights is because a lot of politicians have twisted up what rights mean. So people are confused that yeah that they've confused privileges with rights and you have the right to a really easy one to break down is medical Care. You have ah the right to medical care. It's like that's actually not.

20:53.73

Max Shank

Oh privileges.

21:12.40

mikebledsoe

True now because you have to take it from somebody else. So if if some authority figure comes along and says you have the right to medical care and then there's you walk into the doctor and the doctor says look I really.

21:12.73

Max Shank

I see now because you have to take it from somebody. Yeah.

21:31.76

mikebledsoe

I Can't afford to serve you right now for whatever reason the doctor doesn't want to do it and then an authority figure comes and says no doctor. This person has medical rights. You have to perform whatever it is on them that doctor that doctor has now become a slave. He's has to.

21:43.78

Max Shank

Right? Which is coercion word.

21:51.90

mikebledsoe

He has to conduct labor against his will and when I bring this up a lot of times people get really upset with me when I bring up that example because they're like but it would be wrong for the doctor to turn him down like look from an ethical standpoint when a doctor makes his his or her. Ah. Statement of what the hippocratic oath or whatever it is and they make the statement that they're going to. You know, help people who are in need and not turn anyone away. That's that's an ethical thing.

22:18.24

Max Shank

Right? That's worth going to look at by the way the hippocratic oath you can look it up is really cool. It's like a really awesome little bit of Linguistic magic. So.

22:29.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, So so what? I'm what I'm getting at is like this whole this whole that you have rights to somebody else's labor cause at the end of the and and the medical thing is really touchy because people people do feel like everyone should have access to this like emotionally, it's like. Oh yeah, everyone should have access to this but the thing is is not everyone has access to this.

22:52.19

Max Shank

It's just the image. It's just the image of it that sways people with rhetoric right? it like hospital rooms are scary death is scary. We don't want to face it so we have a scary enough image and then people are like you know what we should ah like steal from the neighbor.

23:02.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

23:09.48

mikebledsoe

Right.

23:10.90

Max Shank

For the greater good right? And here's how you cut straight to the core of any issue like this and you know I'm gonna let the I'm gonna let it fly today because fuck it here's the deal every day in the media. There's some new bullshit that is trying to ensnare you.

23:18.57

mikebledsoe

Ah, perfect.

23:28.64

Max Shank

And enslave your attention and that's already a fucking bad bad thing right? here's the deal though if you want to cut straight to the heart of any issue you ask None question who decides that's it doesn't every everything else take it off the table. Who decides and then you'll figure out what the deal is going on. You just ask who decides and then eventually you go oh so that other guy decides for me. Yeah, no thanks and me saying no, that's that's freedom. But if you want to cut to the heart of. The important issues. What's really important. Ah I don't know if ah if it's important like ah there are so many things that are made to believe to be important. It's make-believe we make believe that these things are important. But the None thing that is important is who decides that's all cut through the bullshit. That's what freedom is is who decides if I can say yes if I can say no, that's freedom if I cannot It's some form of slavery fractional or otherwise simple as that.

24:38.10

mikebledsoe

Yeah, totally agree I mean I think we're what ah probably around I'm like a 33% slave I think you're probably closer like a 48% slave because you're in California.

24:51.48

Max Shank

Fucking rubbing it in look at him do that to me Jesus Christ wow good god I'll tell you what though I'll tell you I'll tell you.

24:56.30

mikebledsoe

Um, just come to Texas already. Um, um, um, not only am my older but I'm less of a slave than you. Um.

25:07.95

Max Shank

Oh you're way more of a timela than I am folks for those listening and don't know I have way more ah agency and autonomy over my schedule than Mike here does. But you know you're going to talk about California. Let's talk about it. Imagine.

25:12.83

mikebledsoe

If.

25:26.80

Max Shank

Being one of those guys who owns a business in California they shut you down and then they don't protect your shop while it gets looted what the fuck are you doing the whole purpose that you're there is like whoa so they they steal none your shit. They don't come to your aid when you need it and they stop you from doing business. It's like the antithesis of freedom. So oh my god look we could talk about this all day but let's let's get back to something practical.

25:55.21

mikebledsoe

Um, a.

25:56.47

Max Shank

Otherwise I'm just gonna sound like an angry old man I'm only 34 fucking years old for Christ's sakes

26:02.35

mikebledsoe

Ah, all right? So ah, we'll get back to some ah something' a little more philosophical that'll help calm me down. So Ah anyways I bring up the the medical freedom because there's a lot of thing or medical rights Because. You got to watch out I want I want people to be aware so when they do come across these conversations when if they do get exposed to something a politician says and they say you have the right to this think about do they have to take something from somebody else to give it to you and if that is the case then it's not a right.

26:18.49

Max Shank

And.

26:37.69

mikebledsoe

Because you're you were in the end enslaving the other person. So yeah, another one that's popular in California is and I've had this experience because my my ah my fiancee Ashley she.

26:40.44

Max Shank

Yeah, you're just getting the loot from their fucking plunder.

26:56.10

mikebledsoe

Sold She had tenants in a building and she sold the building and she inherited the building from her grandmother and so she inherits like this commercial building. It's It's like mixed use commercial and residential and these she's like you know. Well if the tenants she's having to like she's learning about all this stuff in real time and going. Okay, the tenants don't make rent because sometimes they're late. She's like it's like can I kick them out because she's also trying to sell the building and if you have tenants not paying Rent. You're trying to sell a building then it's a fucking problem right? so.

27:26.81

Max Shank

Totally yeah.

27:31.92

mikebledsoe

She goes and talks to the lawyer to find out if she can kick the tenants out and they have to be so many months behind on rent then not only do you not get ah ah, get your money for what you own because that's her property she has to pay the tenants to leave.

27:49.62

Max Shank

Oh yeah, oh yeah, right right.

27:51.31

mikebledsoe

She has to pay them. It's like the opposite of ah property rights. it's it's crazy so um there's just another I wanted to bring up a None law. We'll we'll call it a statutory law that means it's ah it's an opinion of a group people not actual law that have been put in place.

28:06.72

Max Shank

Well, there are so many things like that right? and it's all for the illusion. It's all for the illusion of the greater good. This is the only way you can understand how these things happen you have to imagine 3 neighbors and they all get to vote.

28:10.64

mikebledsoe

That Ah, there's so many.

28:25.90

Max Shank

And if None neighbors vote to Rob the none then majority rules and that's basically the problem is if enough people you know None people vote to Rob the none that's majority rule. It's also called mob rule. In ah in a different term but it's the same thing so you can yeah but that's what I'm that's exactly what I'm saying a democracy is not a good thing and people don't understand that because if you have the majority vote to Rob the minority I don't think that's like a constructive solution and it builds resentment in the.

28:46.80

mikebledsoe

It's also called Democracy It's a pure democracy. Yeah.

29:03.84

Max Shank

The group it doesn't allow I mean they're look. We could go off on that tangent for too long, but.

29:06.46

mikebledsoe

Well well here's the thing is I think it's worth mentioning I'm glad you brought up democracy because the United States is not a democracy. It's a republic and the reason that it was not a democracy is because the founding fathers fathers were smart enough. The first republic I want to say was Greece.

29:13.54

Max Shank

Republic.

29:26.29

mikebledsoe

Um, and took a lot of the concepts from Greece in order to create what we have a lot of the same stuff but the idea is you got a lot of people who want to get rid of something ah like the electoral college They think the electoral college is robbing people of their votes and this and that.

29:29.22

Max Shank

Um, lot of the same stuff lot of the same stuff big time.

29:43.31

Max Shank

And those people live on the coasts and want to make decisions for everybody else I get it like of of course like you know you don't hate the player don't hate the player don't hate the game either. That's just like the the thing we're in like we could have just as easily been born in a feudal system.

29:45.35

mikebledsoe

But yeah, yeah, if you're part of the majority.

30:00.43

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

30:01.33

Max Shank

Of some kind where we had to like pay to a lord and he could fuck our wife on wedding night and all kinds of shit like that. So like look you got to you got to compare Apple's apples everything's relative but ah things are overall like awesome, but it's largely due to technology.

30:10.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah, thank you.

30:20.20

Max Shank

And our ability to trade easily and in fact, so you could say ah trade and technology are kind of the the work of the private sector and it's kind of like um, the public sector tries to fuck everything up. Maybe with good intentions by the way I don't know like that Handlin's razor idea of don't attribute to malice what you could attribute to ah incompetence sometimes yes sometimes no probably more people are stupid than evil and no one thinks they're the evil one. They always think the ends justify the means. Um, that's why that's why I'm not surprised when stuff like this happens because if you get a very powerful ambitious person. They can spin a story in their own mind and if they believe that they can improve. The life of 90% by murdering 10 probably they would do that and I and I could understand that it doesn't make it right? but I can totally understand and that's why it's never a good long-term choice to consolidate power into one area. Because you'll get more speed faster decision making so if you have ah an authoritarian or a dictatorship or some sort of ah collectivism where it's like None or None people in charge. You have a single point of failure which is a problem. So if you have an insane guy can like kill. Ah, 0 people with a famine just by accident right? Just by being a fucking retard. Ah like that's killed way more people than religion is just people who think they're smart getting in charge and thinking that they can make all the decisions that. We should all be individually making on our own that's the that's the value that's one of the major values of freedom is that it's like ah a shock absorber that can work in real time you know, supply and demand cost and benefit are made on an individual basis which is relative to. The individual values and it can adjust things much more quickly. You know if the if the Ceo of Target came out tomorrow and said I don't want any like jews blacks or anyone shopping at Target everyone be like holy god damn we don't like that and we would all go to Walmart. Out of our own free choice probably and and that's why it comes back to who decides. So if it's None guy at the top you can get things done a lot faster. You can boom declare war one None word kill that fucker and there's no.

32:48.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

33:05.52

Max Shank

There's no ah diversification of that decision making so you can get things done way faster hey ah clone those people over there and they're like yes, ah yes, dictator man I will I will clone those people over there hey kill those people and and you will so you can get things done way faster.

33:06.54

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um.

33:24.48

Max Shank

Which can be an advantage in the short term. But ah, you know now you're at the mercy of 1 guy and that's pretty scary stuff. So diversification is a big part of freedom.

33:30.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah I don't get back to yeah I agree and I mean that's one of the I say the byproducts of freedom that that actually is in service of the whole over time. Um, so I me go back to.

33:46.91

Max Shank

It's also profitable transactions. So if every transaction is done Volitiony then there's always ah, an energetic surplus like I trade you voluntary choice. Yeah volition means voluntary choice. But.

33:52.83

mikebledsoe

He say he's volition. He means voluntary so be using such big words. Yeah, ah so ah.

34:04.35

Max Shank

Dude, let me use my word a day calendar. Okay I bought the thing.

34:07.33

mikebledsoe

So They ah it it being a Republic I mentioned the electoral college but congress the senate the Supreme court. All these things are set up to have checks and balances and everything is based off of the.. Basically the declaration of Independence in the constitution are these these base ah basis of all the laws that are written and most of them are not constitutional that are floating around these days but the whole point was to ah they realized that the average person. Needed to feel like they were involved in some way but they they do not. They shouldn't have like ah I guess an equal voice in how things should ah like be controlled by others because not everyone can see. View and there's there's That's why there's representatives and not everything's just yeah, it's a specialization.

35:00.19

Max Shank

Um, it's specialization right? like an Electrician is good with electrical electrical work. A politician is supposed to be good with political work. Of course there are a lot of problems with that. But that's the idea.

35:10.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and so that's why in my opinion up until this point a republic is the greatest form of government that's going to give somebody the greatest amount of freedom now. Ah you know. Is there something better probably with the with the way technology is moving with the decentralization of governance so things like the decentralized autonomous organizations daws. There are going to be things that we're going to be able to do with decentralized governance. And with Ai that is going to actually be able to make decisions that and ai is going to be able to croc information that no one human being can consider and so with the advancement technology. What I believe is we're going to be stepping into. A greater amount of freedom. Um, and there's also dangers that come with that of course. Ah and so going back. So I just want to make that statement about it being a republic not a democracy so on the news when they go oh this is a danger to our democracy which happens all the fucking time. Ah. Like sometimes youre like some I've had people tell me that I'm like well it's good thing. We're not a democracy and they they're like ah we're this one guy this german guy he yeah that this german guy he was like ah he was arguing with me on Facebook about something some guy went to burning man with.

36:30.79

Max Shank

Um, yeah, well there's semantic precision for you right? People don't even know what the word means.

36:45.25

Max Shank

Ah, yeah.

36:47.40

mikebledsoe

I mean this is years ago and he's like he's like something about democracy this and democracy. Yeah I was like well None off, you need to know that you're living in a country that's not a democracy. We're a republic and he's like what's that have to do with anything um like like you know, ah.

37:00.21

Max Shank

Ah.

37:05.75

mikebledsoe

The entire basis of your point is is being built around the idea of democracy That's that that doesn't actually exist here. So um.

37:16.43

Max Shank

Basically the Republic that was set up with Independence was to try to put as much shit in the way as possible from the government doing anything and and that's and that's the correct choice by the way it's.

37:26.17

mikebledsoe

Yeah, if you and the and the constitution was the constitution when you read it was it doesn't grant any rights to anybody it limits the government from impeding upon the rights that every individual has.

37:31.86

Max Shank

It's way more stable.

37:40.40

Max Shank

Exactly and isn't it Yeah isn't it funny too. We even havent I think it's the ninth one that says ah there are also more rights that we didn't write down.

37:46.15

mikebledsoe

And so yeah.

37:58.54

Max Shank

Basically, there's there's one like that. It's like you know, free speech and firearms. And honestly, if you have those 2 eventually it'll rebalance. It'll be a little turbulent but the whole like you know troops in peace time and not ah incriminating yourself and all these things that ah go on up. Ah, to that one where it's like Also we this this list is not Complete. We have even more than we wrote down.

38:23.89

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, hopefully you get the idea and then people didn't but but the thing is yeah um.

38:31.69

Max Shank

It's because they traded freedom for security and there's a quote about that people who trade freedom None security will lose both and deserve neither I think that might have been Jefferson I think it might have been Jefferson but maybe ah.

38:41.00

mikebledsoe

So Benjamin Franklin I think I put money on franklin yeah, but I mean nonetheless. Um, yeah, that that is what's happened so the other thing I want to hit on which what we were talking about the technology leading to freedom or freedom leading to technology I think.

38:48.40

Max Shank

Maybe it was Franklin I don't okay, yeah yeah.

39:06.12

mikebledsoe

I think the desire to be free is what does drive a lot of technology but an example so what created so I'm going to go back to the 2 things that created the situation in 76 when the founding fathers go you know what fuck you? we're doing our own thing. Is they had 2 things they had the enlightenment period so they had the philosophy which was the the development of consciousness to the degree in which they they recognized equal rights amongst every human being That's why it was written was it executed that way. Absolutely not. But guess what? we fast forward to today. It's been corrected. Tremendously. Um I think that if anyone were to argue that it's not as good now as it was two hundred years ago they'd be an idiot um and then well I would say as far as.

39:55.52

Max Shank

A lot of things are better and some things are worse. But I think Net net is better.

40:01.58

mikebledsoe

Say as far as like equal rights like there's not we don't have discrimination. Ah you know discriminatory laws based yeah well you know? yeah you know people of color and women being able to vote and all these types of things.

40:06.17

Max Shank

Oh that's a funny one. It's like the bros before hose amendments. You know that one.

40:18.22

Max Shank

Well isn't it funny though that we gave recently ah freed slave black men the right to vote long before women like I think that's a funny thing and I I feel that too I mean right now there's a lot of tension. Ah between men and women.

40:19.82

mikebledsoe

Um.

40:27.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

40:37.49

Max Shank

Mostly manufactured. But I think there's a lot more commonality between men of different races than a man and a woman of the same race I don't I don't I don't really think ah I don't think that's it's really more about upbringing but Gosh ah being a man or a woman is like a really.

40:45.51

mikebledsoe

I agree.

40:56.77

Max Shank

Different thing but having a different but having a different skin color in and of itself is not really a different thing and the only reason I believe that is because I'm not a racist and I cannot be a racist and think that generally black people Run faster.

40:57.76

mikebledsoe

It's a very different experience.

41:02.47

mikebledsoe

Not in. Um, what.

41:16.84

Max Shank

Asians are better at musical instruments and math and they become doctors more regularly I mean can't we all agree that this shit happens and not be racist at the same time seems so easy to me.

41:26.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, easy to you but not to people who were had their amygdala hijacked by the media. But ah, so so the 2 things the enlightenment period that gave rise to the philosophy and the way of thinking of equal rights.

41:33.10

Max Shank

Oh.

41:45.59

mikebledsoe

And the None thing that made the revolution possible was the decentralization of violence through the invention of the rifle and so hour to the people and so before the rifle came along.

41:53.85

Max Shank

Power to the people.

42:02.64

mikebledsoe

The amount of training and the cost of Weaponry and armor was too high for the average person to have the rifle comes along you require less training to kill somebody right? You don't need that much training to use a rifle fairly effectively like you can become deadly.

42:09.31

Max Shank

Um, ha ha.

42:22.29

mikebledsoe

You know in an afternoon of practice and exactly and so and.

42:24.70

Max Shank

And totally fuck up some guy who's done martial arts for 40 years with a sword that that changed my whole outlook on martial arts training I remember when I had that realization I was like I got to stop this I got to go start learn how to use a gun I'm not going to let some fucking. Hundred and ten pound asshole shoot me dead after training martial arts for 20 years that's ridiculous so it's it's the great equalizer right.

42:43.83

mikebledsoe

No, no, it is a great equalizer I think Smith and Wesson there's a quote from Smith and Wesson from the gun company has said men and women were created equal and. Smith and Wesson keeps it that way or something like that. Yeah yeah, it's like empowering women to carry a gun. You know like oh you, you don't want to have to rely on men for your safety. Well here's here's ah the great equalizer as you say so yeah, the the rifle would pierce the armor that was.

43:03.47

Max Shank

Oh That's pretty fun. Right.

43:16.54

Max Shank

Down.

43:21.92

mikebledsoe

Previously made to deflect swords and and arrows but a bullet you know, traveling at a thousand feet per second you know it it makes it through and so it really changed how warfare was ah conducted and actually what was that Mel Gibson movie with ah.

43:25.13

Max Shank

Ah.

43:41.73

mikebledsoe

No no the patriot I just saw a clip of it on Instagram and in that movie one of the things that that happened is they ah in a revolutionary war is when guerrilla warfare really started up until that point it was like.

43:41.77

Max Shank

Braveheart no the patriot. Yeah.

44:00.50

mikebledsoe

I've got my army and we're going to just March up to your army because that's what worked when they had like swords and and arrows and all this shit but like warfare actually didn't ah didn't really ah evolve.

44:03.98

Max Shank

Honorable.

44:13.12

Max Shank

In many parts of the world in sophisticated warfare. It was like we're going to March in a line at each other and what's funny is in bravehe heartt another Mel Gibson movie it's also all about freedom like he gets disembowlled and he like yells freedom and.

44:18.95

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

44:26.31

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

44:29.89

Max Shank

They're like doing sneaky shit and coming around the flank and all that stuff. So it's kind of funny how ah those movies really parallel each other under the same banner of free of freedom.

44:37.58

mikebledsoe

Oh for sure for sure. So ah, yeah, just thinking about that and like the scene I saw on Instagram ah, you know I follow ah an Instagram account called zulu fucks. So ah, you know it's a military you know some veterans put that shit together. Some sick fucks and who I enjoy and the ah you know they they have the scene where you know he's killing them with you know, rifles and hatchets and you know that was that was the weapon of his of choice right? He had the the hatchet he could throw and and all that um.

44:58.62

Max Shank

Yeah.

45:10.68

Max Shank

Right? It's like John wick. It's like murder porn right? for dudes John Wick 3 Keanereves fucks people up for 2 hours

45:14.95

mikebledsoe

But yeah, yeah, it is dude I finally watched I watched I've been wanting to watch John Wick for like 10 years and the last time I flew it was on the screen I was like oh fuck I'll watch it now. Um good movie.

45:32.13

Max Shank

It's funny. Yeah, yeah.

45:33.74

mikebledsoe

Actually I really enjoyed it. Ah so ah, so yeah, the the this decentral ah decentralization of violence through the invention of the rifle really is what allowed. Ah the Americans to get together and be able to. Hold the British back and everyone can fight that did not happen back in the day you were either a trained soldier or you weren't and if you weren't a trained soldier. You weren't fighting. Yeah yeah, mostly farmers.

45:53.17

Max Shank

Everyone can fight now I think that's even happening in Ukraine pass out a gun to everybody like.

46:07.57

Max Shank

You're probably a farmer. You know you said something really cool there which was that philosophical change and I often have thought about the fact that slavery is largely due to the definition. In the Dao. Ah 1 of the none passages is that ah naming is the origin of all particular things. So when you say there's this philosophical enlightenment shift. What that means is without that adjustment. People will go on believing the same thing that they have been believing. It's just like momentum. There's ideological momentum just like there's physical momentum. So. It's interesting to look back and see how many people were controlled with. With the threat of violence mostly I think of like ah a plantation in the south right? or or you know even before that just using a whip. You know you got maybe None people ah fully commanding None people and all they have is like whips and these people don't even think ah a. They think I'm I'm a slave and this is normal and this is what slaves do this is like a superior man and this is a slave even the code of hamurabi allegedly the oldest text for law which is basically like if you steal something we'll chop off your hand if you poke a guy's eye out. We'll poke your eye out if you rape his daughter you got to marry her and pay the dad fifty Silver shekels that kind of thing but it would it would refer to people as a superior man or an inferior man or a slave and so there were different classes of people and the reason there were different.

47:45.91

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

47:59.12

Max Shank

Classes of people was because that they believed and accepted those Classifications. So if you accept the classification of that. Ah, and you're and you don't have an. Imbalanced force kind of bringing it back to physics and Momentum. There's no reason that you would stop doing that.

48:19.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah. Um, I just did a quick search for a quote that I saw circulating on on social media which was a quote from Harriet Tubman saying I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.

48:40.91

Max Shank

Oh yeah, that's what I was trying to say but in a worse way I was I was saying it worse.

48:44.65

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but then you know of course if I go to one of the things that popped up I Want to do a search on it to be you know to confirm I was correct and there's ah, a politifact. Um.

48:53.14

Max Shank

A. Oh yeah, very reliable source.

49:00.73

mikebledsoe

That this this is hilarious actually like I never I I rarely ever do this, but it's like I end up on um, http://politifact.com to fact checker right? which is bullshit. Yeah, um.

49:10.18

Max Shank

I Want that job that seems easy I Just get to say right.

49:17.63

mikebledsoe

So. What's what's funny is like um, there's this explanation of how it was ah it was discredited in the none the none time ah like the the way it starts arguing that it was discredited is because um Facebook said it was debunked. And and fake like and then um, yeah, like their their primary sources and opinion from Facebook um, but ah, you know I don't know there. There is some more references and people.

49:39.34

Max Shank

So that's their source is that Facebook said it wasn't real.

49:56.95

mikebledsoe

Think that the comment's ridiculous. But of course if you don't know that you're a slave then of course that's going to sound ridiculous.

50:02.52

Max Shank

Right? The most effective chains are the ones that you don't notice and you can be a slave to different thing I think addiction is kind of like slavery in a lot of cases. Um you become a slave to that behavior or substance or or person.

50:06.23

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

50:21.28

Max Shank

Right? Like a code-dependent relationship like you're just totally totally a slave but you can't get out because you don't know. Ah what that would even look like.

50:29.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well that that quote makes me think about I remember reading um I took ah by the way I took african american english literature in college. There were 2 white people in the class at the beginning at the beginning of the semester.

50:42.79

Max Shank

Seems like a woke flex.

50:49.11

mikebledsoe

And then I was the only white person left at the end of the semester. Ah so to the beginning one was left ah I was really curious I was really yeah I was really really curious. Ah I enjoyed the class I thought it was fun.

50:57.52

Max Shank

Talk about being a minority.

51:08.16

mikebledsoe

I like english lit no matter what like any type of literature. Um I just love it. Ah, but None of the things that I realized in that class because we were reading you know well african american english lit and is that a lot of slaves when they were freed really didn't know what the fuck to do. And the same thing would happen now as if the government took off. You know people are like well what would we do? if there wasn't if nobody was taking care of this this this and this what would we do like we need to have that and and basically what I got from what I had read back then the the general theme that I saw was that.

51:36.60

Max Shank

Totally.

51:46.97

mikebledsoe

A lot of slaves didn't really want to be freed because they didn't know what to do with the freedom like there was a certain level of comfort and safety and knowing that I do this thing I go to work and I work work I work. However, many hours in the field. And there's going to be a meal for me and there's gonna be a roof over my head and yeah, like some things really Suck. You know if you step out of Line. You might get whipped or whatever it is but what was more scary was the uncertainty of freedom.

52:11.75

Max Shank

Right.

52:19.65

Max Shank

Um, I think that that's the only thing people fear is unknown. Um, like if you knew for sure that you were going to die on a certain day you wouldn't even fear it you had just accept it as reality. So it's the uncertainty.

52:21.63

mikebledsoe

Ends. Mostly.

52:36.99

Max Shank

That's why people are more afraid of a shark in the water than a bear on the land because you can't see it right? um.

52:39.75

mikebledsoe

I agree I've had the experience of both. Well I had the experience with the shark is like when I surf and I'm on top of the water. There's a I'm a little more like oh my God if something popped up I'd freak out but I've been diving with sharks and I was incredibly calm because I could see them and I was present with them and.

52:46.43

Max Shank

Um, yeah for right. In the epic of Gilgamesh. That's the scariest part is he's in a tunnel where you can't see a foot ahead or a foot behind and I think that's the oldest epic novel written down was ah was the epic of Gilgamesh but that was you know he's fighting all these like gods and monsters and shit.

52:58.86

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, encounter with bear recently and that wasn't so bad.

53:09.97

mikebledsoe

Um.

53:18.72

Max Shank

Not afraid. It's just when he's in the pitch black tunnel. He can't see what's ahead or what's behind and that's what the fear is really about I Think if you take what you're talking about um as ah as a leader something of a leader myself and often in the past very a very bad leader.

53:24.70

mikebledsoe

In 1

53:38.71

Max Shank

Ah, a lot of people are are craving direction. They're craving direction they want so they want a director just tell me what to do.

53:44.61

mikebledsoe

Yeah, Ashley and I had this conversation yesterday we were talking about marketing. We were talking about marketing I was like like really we we were. We were driving down the road and analyzing billboards and I was and and um because it's a fun exercise for me, but ah.

53:55.72

Max Shank

Ah, ah, ah, sounds really fun.

54:04.53

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and ah I was like oh they could have said it way better and people would have taken the action they want them to if they would have said it like this and it was simply changing the language ah to tell people exactly what to do instead of telling people what I do like.

54:16.47

Max Shank

Right.

54:21.77

mikebledsoe

If I want you to work with me I don't tell you what I do I Tell you what you do with me and so.

54:22.94

Max Shank

Well and even more you're gonna say here's what you're gonna do here's what it's gonna look like here's how it's gonna feel this is exactly because what you're doing I think of it like.

54:32.24

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, um.

54:40.82

Max Shank

You're taking someone from one shore across a river to another one and that other shore across the river is basically like the the pot of gold at the rainbow. It's everything they want and everything you have and what you're doing is you are creating and manifesting. An image that helps them believe and see how they are going to cross that potentially very turbulent river so it's bringing certainty through imagination and having a direct action that is really clear to take. Like call this number now for your free blank is ah is a way better call to action than what I like to do is blah blah blah blah blah it's like whoa. No people do crave that direction I can absolutely understand. Why being ah freed after a life of servitude would be bad. It would be like ah Batman Batman telling Alfred to fuck off basically right and he's like whoa. No I've been I've been serving the batmans. The Bruce Waynes and all that stuff for years I think a similar example is ah.

55:40.95

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

55:50.40

mikebledsoe

Well I want to I want to leave I go around.

55:52.85

Max Shank

Ah, stay a stay at home mom a stay at home. This is my last example on this thing because like a stay at home mom you're 20 years as part of a functioning family unit and now suddenly you're like I think I'm going to reenter the workforce and that was a lifetime ago so that that uncertainty is.

56:05.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah, my mom did that sheet I think she didn't work for 1819 years and then went back in and I think it was a little overwhelming for her at the beginning. But yeah, the yeah yeah.

56:11.51

Max Shank

Very pf.

56:17.63

Max Shank

What do I What do I Do tell someone tell me what to do and we're trained that way. You know we're crate trained in school obedience school I mean to do what other people tell us to do So it's no surprise that most people fall in line.

56:35.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and I I bring all this up because um, you know some people are going to hate me for saying it. But like people we weren't joking at the beginning of the show. We were kind of joking we were weren't joking that we're fractional slaves in that if you don't.

56:36.34

Max Shank

With that ideology.

56:52.70

Max Shank

Yeah.

56:54.82

mikebledsoe

If We don't if we don't voluntarily participate with paying taxes and doing some other things and we're going to get beat down with a stick and stuck in a cage. Ah so like so like I think a lot of times. It's hard. For people to hear a statement from a white guy about ah such things. Yeah.

57:17.77

Max Shank

Only for racists only for racists if you discount the opinion of a person based on the lack or presence of melanin their skin. You're fucking racist just because someone's black doesn't mean we should think what they have to say matters and just because a guy is white. Doesn't mean that what he says doesn't matter the whole the whole idea of anti-racism is just racism by a different name that that is like a huge ah that's a type of ideological enslavement is thinking that that. Bullshit matters and those are burdens those are chains that you got to wear and like I was saying at the very beginning the news cycle is making you care about so many things that are outside your control and you're just going to get a greater and greater separation. Between your locus of control which is literally just you and then your radius of awareness of what is going on and they're like hey this important thing is happening a million miles away hey this important thing is happening to this ah gay something black. Whatever guy. And I'm not trying to like demean anybody it's just like those things don't matter. That's a person who should have rights just like another person. The idea that they should be different like adjusted up or adjusted down based on None of their features. That's fucking retarded basically like I don't know ben.

58:47.78

mikebledsoe

Ah I agree I agree because and because at the end of the day is you? You are one of the few that actually believe in equal rights and anyone who who you know that's that's how I've I've started making a lot of my conversations lately when someone makes. A statement about something that's political I go Oh well, do you believe in equal rights and then I go tell me about like you know do do you have like a definition for equal rights and they never do and then I provide them with a definition and then.

59:16.80

Max Shank

And.

59:24.50

mikebledsoe

And then usually we can't get very far after that because the definition of equal rights is is so difficult for them to even have a conversation about that because it because it challenges all the ideas it it challenges their ideology because before. They heard equal rights and they that they don't know what equal rights means and then they build a whole ideology that assumes that it's based on equal rights. But then when you go and visit that that um that that thing at the core that everyone thinks they agree on and then you say well let's define it. And now we're we're taking the foundation of what they believe to be the foundation of their ideology and we just fucking take it out from underneath them. It. It gets a little shaky.

01:00:11.20

Max Shank

Well, it's it's like is the game Fair I mean I used to do that and I thought it was pretty smart. It I thought it was like fun and kind of sporting to like ah slowly ah help people realize that everything they believe is fucking stupid and doesn't have any basis in reality. But it's not even fun anymore because it's so Common. It's not even difficult. But um, basically it does come I mean who who decides who decides? That's all who decides all of the other stuff So That's why I say it's It's not about so people conflate.

01:00:37.63

mikebledsoe

It's so easy to be. You know these days. All you got to believe in equal rights and be weirdo.

01:00:49.91

Max Shank

Or as you say there's a collapse distinction between equal opportunity and equal outcome and that's the big mistake because if you're looking to create an equal outcome then by definition the game can't be fair because you're going to be adjusting the rules based on the players.

01:01:05.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, you can't have equal. You can't you can't have equal opportunity and equal outcome. They can't exist at the same time.

01:01:08.77

Max Shank

And that it takes us right back to who decides who if I'm a fucking referee in a boxing match and anytime one of the guys gets punched I stop the fight to give him a little rest. That's not a fair game. But I can make the outcome equal right? So basically comes back to who decides Well now the referee gets to decide the fight who would fucking watch that game. It's It's ridiculous and I I think what helps a lot is just to imagine a smaller.

01:01:28.60

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:01:47.25

Max Shank

Group of people you know who is the None doing the stealing who is the None being stolen from who's the None profiting from that stealing you know you can easily sort these things out but trying to change someone's mind I think that's mostly an energetic loss unless you're really going to. Dedicate yourself to it. The best thing you can do is to free yourself from this idea that talking about that shit even matters I mean Mike and myself were hoping to illuminate this topic so you and us can all be unburdened. So that we can go do. What's really valuable and value as individual. Ah you know, bottled water at Coachella extremely valuable bottled water at Lake Tahoe Not very valuable. But if you focus on value. And values within yourself. That's good and you're going to get a much better return on your energy. But if you like spend time having these like arguments. It. It just takes away that that joy I mean if you find it fun like for sport. Ah you know, go nuts. But you're not going to.

01:02:55.21

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:03:03.18

Max Shank

Make a really significant ah change in people's minds unless you're like okay I'm going to like there are people out there like Russell Brand for example he is like basically making a career out of illuminating what's going on in a pretty humorous way. So like. That's why I'm not going to try to do something like that is like he's already handling that plus is not really a good way for me to generate the most value because after freedom and love the best thing is to be generous really like. If you if you already are kind of wealthy. You already know this if you're not very wealthy yet you might understand this but I guarantee for those of you who are like on your way up to being like really wealthy. You're going to buy yourself a bunch of fucking toys. This is what happened to me at least. You're going to go god damn that is not nearly as fun as taking my friends out to lunch and you'll realize that the the generosity is what fuels you to do more things. So love freedom and then sharing that generosity is where it's at. But. If you get tripped up by all this bullshit about like genitals and colors and sexual orientation like is fucking. Tiresome freedom is about who decides and if it's you it's freedom if it's not then it's some slavery and it can be fractional. And I'm not I don't it's not that I don't appreciate what I have I am super appreciative what I have I am grateful every day and like let's not kid ourselves. There are a lot of things that happen that are just fucking stupid and it's okay to to recognize that.

01:04:51.17

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah I think at the core that is just um or what for me is ah, not having any expectation around say changing somebody's mind. It's like I'll engage in the conversation. But I'm not.

01:05:05.95

Max Shank

Ooh Yeah, now you're talking.

01:05:08.97

mikebledsoe

If I have the expectation there there should They should be thinking like me by the end I'm going to suffer. It's gonna I'm gonna be miserable. It's not going to be fun and the only way I can have fun in these types of conversations is to realize that I'm not going to change their mind and that's okay.

01:05:13.83

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:05:27.70

mikebledsoe

In the best case scenario the way I see it is the best case scenario is I plant a seed that they may wake up in a week and they go something happens and they go shit that thing Mike said that actually kind of makes sense. But.

01:05:40.42

Max Shank

But your attitude your attitude in. That example is exactly freedom. You're not saying I need to change this person's mind you're saying I'm gonna say what I think is true. They are free.

01:05:48.61

mikebledsoe

Right.

01:05:55.80

Max Shank

But I mean that's what freedom of religion really is like you're free to think of whatever you want to think I mean there are a lot of different religions to choose from. So you're free to do that I think um, just respecting people's boundaries is so awesome If it feels good too like you won't feel. It's an extra burden.

01:06:04.19

mikebledsoe

I yeah.

01:06:13.34

Max Shank

To be the enslaver. Also that's what I was saying in the very beginning like I don't want to be your fucking Mama I want to have a conversation with my buddy Mike here hopefully bring into reality some of these nuggets that I work on throughout the week and there are times where a sentence. Or even a couple words are a catalyst for a big change and that's what I think is really cool like what you're talking about.

01:06:38.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, so yeah, never having the expectation making it fun remaining curious I think I think the ah the second part is the reason I get in the conversations is because I'm genuinely curious how they're how they've come to the conclusion.

01:06:53.78

Max Shank

Oh.

01:06:58.64

mikebledsoe

They've come to and 1 of the things I noticed is when I start getting really curious about how they got there. They usually ruffles some feathers so it's more like yeah I'm like um, like yeah because they don't know how because they actually don't know how they got there most of the time sometimes they do that conversation gets really enlightening.

01:07:06.10

Max Shank

Oh yeah, it's not comfortable.

01:07:17.75

mikebledsoe

But most people most people have no idea how they got to where they are Bait thought they actually haven't thought it through and so to have the expectation they're going to now think it through with you. That's that's a little much but also just like the curiosity I'm like how do I. For me I go How can I be the best communicator possible I have to know where they're coming from I can't have an effective conversation until I actually understand how they think about this or how they and how they feel about this and if I can really get in there and understand it.

01:07:39.42

Max Shank

The.

01:07:48.91

Max Shank

A.

01:07:55.97

mikebledsoe

Now I might have a chance. But if you are going with the expectation to change your mind your ability to be curious is diminished because you have an expectation of an outcome. So it's yeah yeah.

01:08:07.24

Max Shank

You're trying to ah you're trying to fix the game Basically like you're not really curiously looking for a solution you're trying to force your solution and if you think about where people derive these beliefs from it's easy someone else.

01:08:22.27

mikebledsoe

Totally totally lot easier that way.

01:08:22.84

Max Shank

Gave it to him. That's all someone else gave it to you. It's crazy you you hear the same phrases repeated and if you dissect it down. They have no clue why they're even saying what they're saying logical fallacies. False Equivalency is this false premise invalid thought process like It's no surprise. But I do think curiosity is the best way to approach it and detachment because then you can. That's how you really learn learning is mostly about ah curiosity and if you're really curious about something you'll figure it out. You have Youtube you have the internet. You can you can figure things out and having conversations is a good way to test these ideas out. It's like science is all about the scientists trying to prove each other wrong not about like slapping each other on the back and saying how right they are without any inquiry.

01:09:14.45

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think that's a good point because a lot of these come I think back to one I had when I was in California last month with somebody and we nobody was sober but we were having a conversation and ah. It caused this is ah ah it was a rare occasion of someone who had thought through to a degree to where um I then left the conversation I go how do I better explain this or like like how do I better. Ah. Like these conversations where there's disagreement allows me to I sometimes use the word fortify but I don't think that's as accurate as just create more accuracy in what I'm saying and so it can be received better but also sometimes question like oh is my thinking right. And having someone challenge that is is super beneficial because if you leave me alone in isolation and I just have my thoughts so I like I have a friend who a friend that I have a friend that doesn't go out much and they're extremely judgmental about everything. Not you.

01:10:18.80

Max Shank

Everything makes sense. Everything makes sense then.

01:10:28.40

mikebledsoe

They're extremely but rent like um doesn't Um, they don't go out hardly at all and like they have all these ideas about how people are out in town. Oh this person's like this and this person I'm like I'm like.

01:10:28.64

Max Shank

Don't talk to me about me this way. Dude What do you do this to me for we're on the air homie.

01:10:48.10

mikebledsoe

I'm out in town I'm out there mixing it up like I actually and he says says something like like yeah I don't think that's actually what's motivating them. So like this if you're if you're not in the mix then you're gonna have a hard time note and and if you want if you choose not to be in the mix.

01:10:48.47

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:11:07.18

mikebledsoe

Just choose just be sure not to be judgmental of everyone in there because you don't know what's going on for them.

01:11:10.81

Max Shank

Yo Well I mean that's an easy way to be happy is just don't judge people don't blame don't shame whatever but I think it's not that he is by himself. It's that his. Echo Chamber that he's created with technology because otherwise he's not he's got to get these ideas from somewhere right? So He's just got a really.

01:11:28.66

mikebledsoe

How yeah it is is's definitely so it's It's basically text message shreds and social media and.

01:11:35.35

Max Shank

Right? Which is which is basically like a ah like ah a poisonous feedback loop I would want to say because you are going to be optimized for things that outrage you. So I mean it's True. This is just like ah. The the reality of it. We're wired that way if you see a fucking naked chick on your left and a growling tiger on your right? Unfortunately, even you fucking pervert will look at the growling tiger and try to react to that danger None right.

01:12:09.76

mikebledsoe

Totally and I'm perverted. Yeah and I'm perverted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:12:12.79

Max Shank

So it's the same thing when you create your own What's that you you are perverted in the nicest way possible I don't mean that as an insult folks. Ah, but so you create your own echo chamber the algorithm feeds you more of what you react to? So sadly. You will see more and more of what you dislike and that's not ah if we're going to talk about statistics which is already ah fucking bullshit mostly what that Mark Twain quote there are lies damn lies and statistics exactly that's right.

01:12:43.49

mikebledsoe

Um, there are lives damn lies and then there are statistics.

01:12:52.10

Max Shank

Ah, if if your sample size is just whatever the software shows you to get the most significant reaction you're gonna be just fucking swimming in a pool of the stuff you Hate. It's. Probably like the worst thing one of the worst thing this bad.

01:13:11.85

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and and 2022 we have record breaking rates of depression anxiety all these things.

01:13:21.70

Max Shank

Dude when they first closed things down I made a bet that more people were gonna kill themselves than be killed and you should have seen the gnashing of teeth and the wailing that people through there and it's like look I don't know for sure. But.

01:13:34.30

mikebledsoe

Ah, a.

01:13:39.40

Max Shank

It's usually better to do nothing.. It's usually better to do nothing like the the idea of unintended consequences. That's what I'm saying like no one is smart enough to figure that shit out So when you go like oh who decides the fucking benevolent. Genius He's still going to fuck it up. Because there are too many data points to Consider. So.

01:13:58.97

mikebledsoe

Yeah I saw saw a meme the other day which was ah what we're experiencing right now you know time travel does exist and someone keeps going back to the year Twenty twenty and tweaking things and just making things worse. It's just like. Been a downward. It's been a fucking downward spiral since 2020 and in in society and I do think that it's leading to a ah, an awakening a revolution I don't I don't think it needs to be bloody I hope it's not ah.

01:14:29.41

Max Shank

Awakening. Yeah.

01:14:37.20

mikebledsoe

I Think it's going to be. It's so technologically driven that I think it's I think there's going to be some violent areas will erupt in the world like certain cities in the Us which is kind of. We're already starting to see that. Ah yeah.

01:14:51.44

Max Shank

That had already happened right? We should talk technology next week by the way, let's talk technology next week I I saw this thing ah they had ah um.

01:14:55.31

mikebledsoe

And technology. Yeah.

01:15:05.85

Max Shank

Think it was like 6000 drones flying together. It was the world record for the most. Ah for the largest drone swarm that was being flown around and that kind of stuff when within the last year I would say it.

01:15:13.45

mikebledsoe

Where was this? yeah okay because Bernie Man 2018 they we saw the largest drone show up until that point with a swarm of drones. It was.

01:15:26.48

Max Shank

Um, yeah, wild right? different colors different shapes in 3 d space and these things can move so fast they can move so fast too. Yeah.

01:15:30.82

mikebledsoe

1 or two a m with different lights. There was an orchestra there was an orchestra playing there's an orchestra playing as they're doing it. It's fucking crazy. So 6000 which is more than what I saw mine was probably like a None

01:15:43.32

Max Shank

None plus it might have even been 8 it was that it was this insane thing and it's like the average person has no idea how their refrigerator works and a refrigerator for how useful it is is a very like it's. Very elegant, simple machine a computer a drone electricity these things get so much more and more complex like silicon chips. These different things that we have available to us now is so far beyond what the average person can understand we have like we can. We can blast heat waves for crowd control but they're concerned that maybe it will like melt their retina and melt their eyeballs. It's It's really wild. So I think that's another ah good reason to diversify and divide the power up amongst a larger group of people rather than to just have None person with his finger on the button and that's um, you know. Chain of command is how organizations work and you need someone who's got the final say and it just gets a little bit tricky but.

01:17:02.30

mikebledsoe

It's just I like I mean there's always going to be a hierarchy but can there be smaller groups of people existing inside of hierarchy. That's.

01:17:09.42

Max Shank

I Like the hierarchy of the customer is always right because everything else is really messy. Everything else is really messy like you let people buy what they want to Buy. It's like that saying ah the love of money is the root of all evil or money is the root of all evil I Mean. No, like there are problems like printing money is a real problem I think but but money itself that allows me to trade a candlestick for a loaf of bread without finding a baker who wants a candlestick that is incredible. That's in. Credible How quickly we can deliver value to each other at a profit so there are all these amazing things and you know you don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. This is a mistake I made in the past is I would just be like fuck it burn it Down. It's bad. You know and that's not really the case either most of the um luxury and benefits in our life are directly related to technology because um, by and large. We don't need a lot of the bullshit that our tax dollars go to So. There's a problem there. But overall you got to be really grateful for the time that we're living in and certainly the place. But.

01:18:41.90

mikebledsoe

No better time or place. No better timer place. Yeah, anything else seems ridiculous. Well let's ah, let's wrap this show up next week. We'll get in technology which.

01:18:45.81

Max Shank

That's the right attitude. Yeah, yeah.

01:18:57.62

mikebledsoe

We'll see if we actually follow through with what we plan on doing the next week this time we'll see yep.

01:18:59.51

Max Shank

All right I got I gotta I think we did this time I got I got a wrap for you ready not an actual wrap. We'll save that for the the the member account I'll do a little freestyle and you can you beat box. Okay so Mike is gonna look.

01:19:12.10

mikebledsoe

No you, you've seen me I might might.

01:19:17.21

Max Shank

Mike is going to learn how to beat box before next week and I will do a wrap for our subscribers. So check it out here's what we have as far as freedoms. We have freedom of our our time we have freedom of location. A lot of people are doing remote work now. They're not tied to a specific location. We have financial freedom. Which basically just means you have enough to buy back your time and ah solve any money related problems. You have the freedom from and of beliefs I think a lot of people are enslaved by beliefs that are a not true and b destructive and then you also have. Physical freedom and this is something that I have a lot of experience with this is what all of my training programs are about is how to get you more physically free within your own body so you get to make the decisions not your sore knee. Not your sore back. Which is basically like a little tyrant who's like fuck you don't climb that tree. So unfortunately most exercise maybe ninety plus percent and maybe 95 plus they waste your energy and make you less athletic. That's that's real shit. Okay.

01:20:29.66

mikebledsoe

Accurate.

01:20:32.76

Max Shank

So freedom of time freedom of location freedom of money freedom to freedom of and from Beliefs and also physical freedom. That's that's what I got for you guys.

01:20:42.51

mikebledsoe

Well said well son and remember get that context before the content understand you know why the constitution says what it says look here's the thing I don't think it's the end. All be all.

01:20:52.10

Max Shank

Ooh Talk dirty.

01:21:00.72

mikebledsoe

But it's the best we got So with that we'll leave it there go to Masank Dot Com Yeah and what's the go to the Bloodso show dot Com Hopefully I'll get that members area up soon when I say I I mean my team will get the members area up soon.

01:21:05.81

Max Shank

Um, who the http://bloodsoho.com

01:21:16.95

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:21:20.10

mikebledsoe

And ah, we'll get it rocking and rolling. Love you guys. Happy Independence day.

01:21:24.66

Max Shank

Love you brother take care Bye everybody.

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