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The show formerly known as "Bledsopia" On this podcast, you’ll learn from thought leaders who are dedicating their lives to being a positive force for your physical, psycho-emotional and spiritual health. Your host, Mike Bledsoe, seeker of truth & perpetual student, spotlights premier thought leaders in the fields of emotional & intellectual expansion, behavior change, sexuality & alternative medicine that empower you with the tools and inspiration to transform your mind, body, & spirit. Every week, this is your opportunity to get downloads from exceptional people that will guide you to the connections between your own source, to live your best life & enjoy the process.
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Jul 4, 2022

00:00.00

mikebledsoe

Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're going to be talking about freedom because you know what it is the fourth of July and we are americans and so of course not only are we totally into the conversation today but we're into it. All the time max and I are both lovers of freedom and in our own ways which is kind of like how freedom works you get to do it your way. So thanks for joining me Dave Max so you are begin this topic with you since I think you and I are both. We've spent a lot of time focusing on this topic.

00:41.30

Max Shank

Well thanks for having me once again, it is certainly my favorite topic. It's also what I would like to impart or share with people. Basically when I think about what I would like to share with folks I would like to help them become more free because I don't.

00:54.71

mikebledsoe

Hang on. Yeah.

01:00.59

Max Shank

I don't I don't I don't want to be your Mama I don't want to be responsible for you and that's the beauty of freedom is there's you are responsible for yourself and this other person is responsible for themself and there's interdependence that comes through agreements.

01:03.23

mikebledsoe

I am.

01:19.29

Max Shank

Volitional choices and I think that's amazing. That's what allowed us to get everything going. That's what allowed us to do so well basically hands writing and cooperation. Otherwise we would still just be you know lion food pretty much.

01:30.17

mikebledsoe

I.

01:37.50

Max Shank

You know I'm saying Ah so I I think I would like everyone listening to this to become more free and I think a good way to understand it would be the different types of freedom and then also what's the opposite of freedom and who are the key players and how this all worked.

01:37.97

mikebledsoe

Definitely.

01:56.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um.

01:57.16

Max Shank

So if you don't mind I'd I'd love to kick things off.

02:00.43

mikebledsoe

Kick things off when you got more to say right now is that what you're saying oh well None I want to mention if you want access to the pre-show you have to go to go over to the bloodso show dot com we'll have a link over there to.

02:03.16

Max Shank

Yeah I mean ah yeah I Just I don't want to drone on and on too much. But I think about it like free freedom is a new go for it.

02:20.10

mikebledsoe

Sign up. Ah, we're taking it's a donation based thing I hate word donation. It's value for value pay what you want if you find what be what you want look pay what you want to be in there. Whatever you however, much value you find from this show just you know.

02:24.56

Max Shank

Um, pay what you want I like that phrase. That's that's a better 1 pay what you want.

02:37.52

Max Shank

Well, they can't pay that much. This show is invaluable so pay the intersection of what you value the show and what you can afford.

02:39.37

mikebledsoe

Make it make you know pay as much as you possibly can is.

02:50.61

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, so that keeps us ah, trucking along. And yeah, if you go up there if if you're listening on the day that we post this that link is not going to quite be up yet. But if you're listening in a few days from now I should have that up in the next week so

02:57.20

Max Shank

It will have.

03:08.77

mikebledsoe

We're Goingnna give some exclusive content there posting some short videos of our pre-show which sometimes I think what's happening in the preshow is more valuable than what's happening here. There's a little more put together. But you miss all the ramblings. That ah happened and in fact, if you go listen to today's pre-show you get to hear max's poem that he wrote this morning. Yeah yeah, so he shared a poem to kick that off. So I just want to mention that first. Ah so I appreciate everyone who's I've had.

03:30.89

Max Shank

Oh that's right.

03:44.95

mikebledsoe

I've had ah people already reach out in the Dms asking me how the hell do I donate someone asked for venmo accounts I was like hold on I was like hold off we're gonna set something up I want to do this proper from the very beginning. So um, they do like us.

03:47.58

Max Shank

Um, oh Wow cool.

03:57.65

Max Shank

They like us. They really like us. Thanks everybody. That's so nice I feel validation that I I used to only feel from the affection of a woman I'm sure no other guys out there ah tried to get all their validation from the affection of women right? That's a mistake.

04:02.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

04:14.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah I've never done that I've never done that. Yeah yeah.

04:17.39

Max Shank

I mean I think that's only a mistake I've made I don't think anybody else talk about a type of slavery right? you you are your sense of self is ah enslaved by the whims and affection of women that's brutal.

04:31.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, which I mean women are pretty much the whole reason we do anything at the end of the day. So yeah, and you know what if I'm a slave to that then fuck it I'm I'm down.

04:37.70

Max Shank

Yo Absolutely for sex and food.

04:46.22

Max Shank

Um, yeah, they're they, they they look and feel nice. Don't they totally worth. Ah, ah.

04:50.78

mikebledsoe

Totally worth it. Totally worth it. Well um, we we had a little conversation during the pre-show that really lights me up which is ah max brought up the word. No. Which I think is at the center of the freedom conversation and there is the internal experience of saying no and that is ah being willing to disappoint others or not meet the expectations of others when someone asks you to do something or be somewhere.

05:25.62

Max Shank

The.

05:27.57

mikebledsoe

You say? No I don't want to um and then there's um, and then there's the the lack of violence when you tell somebody? No,. There's the the external experience of freedom which is. The ability to say no and people actually honor that. Yeah.

05:48.43

Max Shank

Well, it's drawing a line in the sand right? I'm I'm pretty sure the origin of drawing a line in the sand was basically if you cross this I will fuck you up and that's that's really if we have ah differences. That's how we resolve them. We can do it like you and I are doing right now we can talk it out say no and if that knows not respected The only thing left is physical violence which force is the language of cells and the language of life and ah. Even inorganic stuff like rocks I mean force is really what what moves things along which sounds like a funny phrase. But if you draw solid boundaries. You also won't become resentful. That's a big part of it and the biggest part I think. And it's a really hard concept to understand and I bring it up all the time which is opportunity cost if you neglect to say no when it matters then you will prevent yourself from saying yes to things so the cost of not drawing boundaries. Is that you don't get to use that energy for the things that you really want to say yes to so freedom and focus are both related to the word. No and this is true with your health. It's true with your finances. It's true with friendships. It's. Really really important. Um, so that's a big part of it I would also like to today just thank everybody involved for the freedom experiment that you and I are now enjoying in America I think a lot of us. Ah, it's very easy to forget that this is a pretty new concept in terms of how nations are organized. This is a big big group of people united around the concept of freedom. Probably the biggest None ever actually and. Certainly deteriorated a little bit but before that the only type of freedom there was was probably like nomad nomadic tribes and stuff like that. But you're still going to have some sort of a hierarchy. So this idea that everyone is free to do what they like. The pursuit of happiness is a type of magic really and that code and all those people involved set in motion a series of events that allowed for the greatest possible comparative advantage and specialization.

08:37.41

Max Shank

If You are super ambitious about baking muffins and that is all that you want to do you can do that and no one can tell you to do anything otherwise and the cumulative effect of everybody being free to choose out of love what they most want to do. Led to the highest advancement Possible. You're always going to get a much higher passion and performance if the reason or the mission is derived from a place of of love right? so.

09:09.79

mikebledsoe

Yeah, wells gone.

09:13.44

Max Shank

It it wasn't just the people who thank you? It wasn't just the people who wrote the declaration of independence it was a lot of people before that also a lot of it was actually just because of the book common sense by Thomas Paine ah from what I've read and understand. A lot of the guys who signed the declaration of independence just earlier that year were basically thinking. Yeah, we should get back with England we should. We should get back with them and then common sense came out and it's it's worth a read. It's still good. It was the most widely read book ever at the time it it sold more copies than the literacy rate it was outrageous how popular this book was and so it just goes to show the power of an idea.

09:57.40

mikebledsoe

Oh.

10:05.58

Max Shank

Ah, so I I thank Thomas Paine I think the people who who risked a lot I mean there was a lot of bloodshed There was a lot of risks being taken and it's like freedom is basically never given right. It's only taken. And so I I guess I really because I don't have a frame I've ever been to war I've done none of fighting like in a ring with the rare scuffle outside in the world but man I have a really deep appreciation for. All of the people involved and it's still right now there are a lot of people involved with preserving this idea that we are free to do as we please and everyone else is free to do as they please because that's that's not how it went right? right? before this experiment. That's not how it went and I think.

10:56.43

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

11:02.51

Max Shank

A lot of what happened there was a catalyst for the industry and technology that give us different types of freedom I mean you are free from doing your laundry by hand if you have a.

11:21.48

mikebledsoe

But well tech What ah tech comes um I mean I've seen instances where the tech is what preceded the freedom. So for one we can agree on that.

11:21.48

Max Shank

A washing machine and a dryer. It's incredible. So all that tech was because of the freedom I believe.

11:34.39

Max Shank

Freedom Freedom is a technology. Also I think we can agree.

11:40.81

mikebledsoe

Yeah but ah so there's 2 things that really led to ah the the declaration of independence and following that the constitution and ah, what the 2 things that I see that led to that one was the enlightenment period. And that's where guys like John Locke and some other philosophers really laid the groundwork. Um for there was a lot of things happening in Europe and there was these ideas this idea of equal rights was emerging ah in Europe. And it was causing a lot of friction and that's None reason a lot of people came to America was like you know what? I don't want to deal with all this stuff in Europe let's get out of here. Yeah, it's three or four weeks on a boat we might die but fuck it. Let's go and so ah, very bold but the.

12:32.97

Max Shank

Bold very bold.

12:37.88

mikebledsoe

There were these ideas from the enlightenment period that that took hold and the idea of equal rights is that no one person is more has more rights than somebody else which in the end means that I have no right to tell you how to live your life as long as you're not impeding on my.

12:47.32

Max Shank

Oh.

12:57.50

Max Shank

Right.

12:57.22

mikebledsoe

Right? to do what I want so the idea of negative rights comes into play which never exists before. So if you go to Europe now the it the way the their minds work and a lot of americans it works like this too because the the european mindset is you know. I think you and I as long as we've been alive. It seems like a lot of americans think that europe has it more figured out than we do which is kind of weird. Um, yeah, and so.

13:23.16

Max Shank

The grass is greener on the other side. Um, but they don't consider the fact that you pay like a 20% value added tax on like basically everything you know so we have like fractional servitude with these taxations and it's just different place to place right.

13:31.92

mikebledsoe

Everything every step of the Way. Ah. Yeah, so the um, ah so the idea of negative rights comes into play and that is ah everybody had the the negative right is I don't have the right to do anything to cause you to do you know.

13:42.27

Max Shank

Yeah.

13:57.99

mikebledsoe

To stop doing anything you want to do as long as we're not harming each other is basically at the end of the day. That's how negative rights work and this was not a concept that existed prior to about None it was new up into that point everyone believed that the king.

13:59.72

Max Shank

And a.

14:17.80

mikebledsoe

Or the pope or somebody had been granted this authority from god and this is why Ah, this is why so many almost every country has this official religion that's affiliated with and America was the first one that came along. It was like you know what we're not going to do this whole religious thing. Because we're not going to try to tie up the idea of authority with the government and so um and so this whole thing of negative rights comes along and there was if you read the federalist papers and this is a thing that most americans I think really miss out on is they don't. Get the context of the constitution. They don't have the context for the declaration of independence both are are very important I took constitutional law 1 year and the the none month we spent studying the declaration of independence and I was like what is like they told us at the very beginning.

15:11.48

Max Shank

The.

15:16.62

mikebledsoe

We're stuck in declaration of independence first because this actually laid the groundwork for the constitution. So first a lot. Yeah, a lot of people are only looking at the constitution with 0 context. So then so you have the context of the declaration of independence so you need to have that context first.

15:22.91

Max Shank

It's like the sperm and the egg.

15:35.58

mikebledsoe

Most people don't have that and which you know today is the day that you know the the declaration of independence was was made a thing and then um, which was primarily written by Thomas Jefferson I believe and i.

15:42.17

Max Shank

Right. As I understand it. Yeah. We don't know for sure of of course. Well you said something big too which is content without context I Think that's one of the biggest traps that people can fall into like it's It's fine to.

15:53.88

mikebledsoe

No, there were no cameras. It's not an Instagram it's not on Facebook who knows.

16:10.67

Max Shank

Believe you whatever you want to believe but I'm pretty shocked Still you'd think I'd be desensitized to it by now by the by the strength of opinions held based on Absolutely no context whatsoever. It's it's just ah, it's basically just ah, a bird sound.

16:23.36

mikebledsoe

Right.

16:29.15

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

16:30.60

Max Shank

That is repeated like they hear this combination of sounds and then that comes back out again and it's impossible to take into account all of the variables. But ah, it really is if you want to understand something.. It's so important to have context for. What that is and when that might actually be correct.

16:49.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so so the context of something like the constitution is really um, a big topic right now because the supreme court whose primary job is to find out if a law is constitutional or not. That's that's about it.

17:05.89

Max Shank

Right.

17:09.18

mikebledsoe

They don't create laws. They just they make rulings on whether this law is something that could be upheld or not so.

17:15.39

Max Shank

And let's get clear real quick. What's the point of having a state and laws in the None place. It's just to protect property rights that's it. It's that part hasn't changed that is that's the core purpose.

17:29.84

mikebledsoe

That was but but the.

17:34.56

Max Shank

Same with pirates and gangs. It's like basically the guys are like hey we'll offer you protection in exchange for a little bit of your stuff. So It's really like no different than that and when you were talking About. Um. The interplay of negative rights. It. It made me think like okay, well yeah, that's that's the rule is that according to the law. You can't infringe on somebody else's property which is their self and their stuff.

18:09.51

mikebledsoe

Include your body. Yeah.

18:12.94

Max Shank

Yeah yourself and your stuff and but here's the thing like natural law is anyone can do anything. They want any time. So this whole idea of law is really just about consequences if they catch you and that sounds like a little funny but but that's really that's really all it is. If if they catch you. There are consequences if they don't There are basically no consequences So natural law is anyone or or everyone always does what they want and they can they can kill you they can punch you they can say mean things to you. They can steal your stuff. Doesn't matter the whole reason we would put faith in a higher power is if we believed that they would improve our property rights and decrease friction and decrease assault on our persons and so you have to look at the cost Benefit. Of What you're giving up versus what you're getting and I think it's really, um, certainly has split the crowd because a lot of people would agree that for what we ah give or for what we have taken. The ah return on that investment is very bad and not transparent either.

19:29.55

mikebledsoe

Yeah, very bad and and that was actually and that was that was definitely not transparent and that was one of the reasons that you know the the revolutionary war was fought was he's not doing shit for us. He just and just taxing us.

19:41.72

Max Shank

Why should we pay the King he's not doing shit for us over here. He's an ocean away fuck that guy. Yeah, right totally imagine. Yeah.

19:49.55

mikebledsoe

No protection, not providing enough for what he's taking and so that was one of the things that that motivated them. Um, but so I like to bring up the idea of negative rights because there's no such thing as rights outside of negative rights. There's. Anything. That's not a negative right? is what I would call a wrong and so self logic man I'm I'm sorry so I'm really twisting you up here. The thing is is when I talk to people about this sometimes they do.

20:12.65

Max Shank

This is tough logic to follow. Honestly, you got to write it down.

20:21.61

Max Shank

Um, the opposite of a negative right is a wrong.

20:30.83

mikebledsoe

That's right.

20:31.36

Max Shank

I'm pretty I'm pretty sure a negative right is a wrong. But anyway that mathematically.

20:35.16

mikebledsoe

No Ah negative. Well the the the reason well negative rights are rights and you have to the reason we have to use the language negative rights when we used to only have to use the word rights is because a lot of politicians have twisted up what rights mean. So people are confused that yeah that they've confused privileges with rights and you have the right to a really easy one to break down is medical Care. You have ah the right to medical care. It's like that's actually not.

20:53.73

Max Shank

Oh privileges.

21:12.40

mikebledsoe

True now because you have to take it from somebody else. So if if some authority figure comes along and says you have the right to medical care and then there's you walk into the doctor and the doctor says look I really.

21:12.73

Max Shank

I see now because you have to take it from somebody. Yeah.

21:31.76

mikebledsoe

I Can't afford to serve you right now for whatever reason the doctor doesn't want to do it and then an authority figure comes and says no doctor. This person has medical rights. You have to perform whatever it is on them that doctor that doctor has now become a slave. He's has to.

21:43.78

Max Shank

Right? Which is coercion word.

21:51.90

mikebledsoe

He has to conduct labor against his will and when I bring this up a lot of times people get really upset with me when I bring up that example because they're like but it would be wrong for the doctor to turn him down like look from an ethical standpoint when a doctor makes his his or her. Ah. Statement of what the hippocratic oath or whatever it is and they make the statement that they're going to. You know, help people who are in need and not turn anyone away. That's that's an ethical thing.

22:18.24

Max Shank

Right? That's worth going to look at by the way the hippocratic oath you can look it up is really cool. It's like a really awesome little bit of Linguistic magic. So.

22:29.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, So so what? I'm what I'm getting at is like this whole this whole that you have rights to somebody else's labor cause at the end of the and and the medical thing is really touchy because people people do feel like everyone should have access to this like emotionally, it's like. Oh yeah, everyone should have access to this but the thing is is not everyone has access to this.

22:52.19

Max Shank

It's just the image. It's just the image of it that sways people with rhetoric right? it like hospital rooms are scary death is scary. We don't want to face it so we have a scary enough image and then people are like you know what we should ah like steal from the neighbor.

23:02.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

23:09.48

mikebledsoe

Right.

23:10.90

Max Shank

For the greater good right? And here's how you cut straight to the core of any issue like this and you know I'm gonna let the I'm gonna let it fly today because fuck it here's the deal every day in the media. There's some new bullshit that is trying to ensnare you.

23:18.57

mikebledsoe

Ah, perfect.

23:28.64

Max Shank

And enslave your attention and that's already a fucking bad bad thing right? here's the deal though if you want to cut straight to the heart of any issue you ask None question who decides that's it doesn't every everything else take it off the table. Who decides and then you'll figure out what the deal is going on. You just ask who decides and then eventually you go oh so that other guy decides for me. Yeah, no thanks and me saying no, that's that's freedom. But if you want to cut to the heart of. The important issues. What's really important. Ah I don't know if ah if it's important like ah there are so many things that are made to believe to be important. It's make-believe we make believe that these things are important. But the None thing that is important is who decides that's all cut through the bullshit. That's what freedom is is who decides if I can say yes if I can say no, that's freedom if I cannot It's some form of slavery fractional or otherwise simple as that.

24:38.10

mikebledsoe

Yeah, totally agree I mean I think we're what ah probably around I'm like a 33% slave I think you're probably closer like a 48% slave because you're in California.

24:51.48

Max Shank

Fucking rubbing it in look at him do that to me Jesus Christ wow good god I'll tell you what though I'll tell you I'll tell you.

24:56.30

mikebledsoe

Um, just come to Texas already. Um, um, um, not only am my older but I'm less of a slave than you. Um.

25:07.95

Max Shank

Oh you're way more of a timela than I am folks for those listening and don't know I have way more ah agency and autonomy over my schedule than Mike here does. But you know you're going to talk about California. Let's talk about it. Imagine.

25:12.83

mikebledsoe

If.

25:26.80

Max Shank

Being one of those guys who owns a business in California they shut you down and then they don't protect your shop while it gets looted what the fuck are you doing the whole purpose that you're there is like whoa so they they steal none your shit. They don't come to your aid when you need it and they stop you from doing business. It's like the antithesis of freedom. So oh my god look we could talk about this all day but let's let's get back to something practical.

25:55.21

mikebledsoe

Um, a.

25:56.47

Max Shank

Otherwise I'm just gonna sound like an angry old man I'm only 34 fucking years old for Christ's sakes

26:02.35

mikebledsoe

Ah, all right? So ah, we'll get back to some ah something' a little more philosophical that'll help calm me down. So Ah anyways I bring up the the medical freedom because there's a lot of thing or medical rights Because. You got to watch out I want I want people to be aware so when they do come across these conversations when if they do get exposed to something a politician says and they say you have the right to this think about do they have to take something from somebody else to give it to you and if that is the case then it's not a right.

26:18.49

Max Shank

And.

26:37.69

mikebledsoe

Because you're you were in the end enslaving the other person. So yeah, another one that's popular in California is and I've had this experience because my my ah my fiancee Ashley she.

26:40.44

Max Shank

Yeah, you're just getting the loot from their fucking plunder.

26:56.10

mikebledsoe

Sold She had tenants in a building and she sold the building and she inherited the building from her grandmother and so she inherits like this commercial building. It's It's like mixed use commercial and residential and these she's like you know. Well if the tenants she's having to like she's learning about all this stuff in real time and going. Okay, the tenants don't make rent because sometimes they're late. She's like it's like can I kick them out because she's also trying to sell the building and if you have tenants not paying Rent. You're trying to sell a building then it's a fucking problem right? so.

27:26.81

Max Shank

Totally yeah.

27:31.92

mikebledsoe

She goes and talks to the lawyer to find out if she can kick the tenants out and they have to be so many months behind on rent then not only do you not get ah ah, get your money for what you own because that's her property she has to pay the tenants to leave.

27:49.62

Max Shank

Oh yeah, oh yeah, right right.

27:51.31

mikebledsoe

She has to pay them. It's like the opposite of ah property rights. it's it's crazy so um there's just another I wanted to bring up a None law. We'll we'll call it a statutory law that means it's ah it's an opinion of a group people not actual law that have been put in place.

28:06.72

Max Shank

Well, there are so many things like that right? and it's all for the illusion. It's all for the illusion of the greater good. This is the only way you can understand how these things happen you have to imagine 3 neighbors and they all get to vote.

28:10.64

mikebledsoe

That Ah, there's so many.

28:25.90

Max Shank

And if None neighbors vote to Rob the none then majority rules and that's basically the problem is if enough people you know None people vote to Rob the none that's majority rule. It's also called mob rule. In ah in a different term but it's the same thing so you can yeah but that's what I'm that's exactly what I'm saying a democracy is not a good thing and people don't understand that because if you have the majority vote to Rob the minority I don't think that's like a constructive solution and it builds resentment in the.

28:46.80

mikebledsoe

It's also called Democracy It's a pure democracy. Yeah.

29:03.84

Max Shank

The group it doesn't allow I mean they're look. We could go off on that tangent for too long, but.

29:06.46

mikebledsoe

Well well here's the thing is I think it's worth mentioning I'm glad you brought up democracy because the United States is not a democracy. It's a republic and the reason that it was not a democracy is because the founding fathers fathers were smart enough. The first republic I want to say was Greece.

29:13.54

Max Shank

Republic.

29:26.29

mikebledsoe

Um, and took a lot of the concepts from Greece in order to create what we have a lot of the same stuff but the idea is you got a lot of people who want to get rid of something ah like the electoral college They think the electoral college is robbing people of their votes and this and that.

29:29.22

Max Shank

Um, lot of the same stuff lot of the same stuff big time.

29:43.31

Max Shank

And those people live on the coasts and want to make decisions for everybody else I get it like of of course like you know you don't hate the player don't hate the player don't hate the game either. That's just like the the thing we're in like we could have just as easily been born in a feudal system.

29:45.35

mikebledsoe

But yeah, yeah, if you're part of the majority.

30:00.43

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

30:01.33

Max Shank

Of some kind where we had to like pay to a lord and he could fuck our wife on wedding night and all kinds of shit like that. So like look you got to you got to compare Apple's apples everything's relative but ah things are overall like awesome, but it's largely due to technology.

30:10.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah, thank you.

30:20.20

Max Shank

And our ability to trade easily and in fact, so you could say ah trade and technology are kind of the the work of the private sector and it's kind of like um, the public sector tries to fuck everything up. Maybe with good intentions by the way I don't know like that Handlin's razor idea of don't attribute to malice what you could attribute to ah incompetence sometimes yes sometimes no probably more people are stupid than evil and no one thinks they're the evil one. They always think the ends justify the means. Um, that's why that's why I'm not surprised when stuff like this happens because if you get a very powerful ambitious person. They can spin a story in their own mind and if they believe that they can improve. The life of 90% by murdering 10 probably they would do that and I and I could understand that it doesn't make it right? but I can totally understand and that's why it's never a good long-term choice to consolidate power into one area. Because you'll get more speed faster decision making so if you have ah an authoritarian or a dictatorship or some sort of ah collectivism where it's like None or None people in charge. You have a single point of failure which is a problem. So if you have an insane guy can like kill. Ah, 0 people with a famine just by accident right? Just by being a fucking retard. Ah like that's killed way more people than religion is just people who think they're smart getting in charge and thinking that they can make all the decisions that. We should all be individually making on our own that's the that's the value that's one of the major values of freedom is that it's like ah a shock absorber that can work in real time you know, supply and demand cost and benefit are made on an individual basis which is relative to. The individual values and it can adjust things much more quickly. You know if the if the Ceo of Target came out tomorrow and said I don't want any like jews blacks or anyone shopping at Target everyone be like holy god damn we don't like that and we would all go to Walmart. Out of our own free choice probably and and that's why it comes back to who decides. So if it's None guy at the top you can get things done a lot faster. You can boom declare war one None word kill that fucker and there's no.

32:48.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

33:05.52

Max Shank

There's no ah diversification of that decision making so you can get things done way faster hey ah clone those people over there and they're like yes, ah yes, dictator man I will I will clone those people over there hey kill those people and and you will so you can get things done way faster.

33:06.54

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um.

33:24.48

Max Shank

Which can be an advantage in the short term. But ah, you know now you're at the mercy of 1 guy and that's pretty scary stuff. So diversification is a big part of freedom.

33:30.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah I don't get back to yeah I agree and I mean that's one of the I say the byproducts of freedom that that actually is in service of the whole over time. Um, so I me go back to.

33:46.91

Max Shank

It's also profitable transactions. So if every transaction is done Volitiony then there's always ah, an energetic surplus like I trade you voluntary choice. Yeah volition means voluntary choice. But.

33:52.83

mikebledsoe

He say he's volition. He means voluntary so be using such big words. Yeah, ah so ah.

34:04.35

Max Shank

Dude, let me use my word a day calendar. Okay I bought the thing.

34:07.33

mikebledsoe

So They ah it it being a Republic I mentioned the electoral college but congress the senate the Supreme court. All these things are set up to have checks and balances and everything is based off of the.. Basically the declaration of Independence in the constitution are these these base ah basis of all the laws that are written and most of them are not constitutional that are floating around these days but the whole point was to ah they realized that the average person. Needed to feel like they were involved in some way but they they do not. They shouldn't have like ah I guess an equal voice in how things should ah like be controlled by others because not everyone can see. View and there's there's That's why there's representatives and not everything's just yeah, it's a specialization.

35:00.19

Max Shank

Um, it's specialization right? like an Electrician is good with electrical electrical work. A politician is supposed to be good with political work. Of course there are a lot of problems with that. But that's the idea.

35:10.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and so that's why in my opinion up until this point a republic is the greatest form of government that's going to give somebody the greatest amount of freedom now. Ah you know. Is there something better probably with the with the way technology is moving with the decentralization of governance so things like the decentralized autonomous organizations daws. There are going to be things that we're going to be able to do with decentralized governance. And with Ai that is going to actually be able to make decisions that and ai is going to be able to croc information that no one human being can consider and so with the advancement technology. What I believe is we're going to be stepping into. A greater amount of freedom. Um, and there's also dangers that come with that of course. Ah and so going back. So I just want to make that statement about it being a republic not a democracy so on the news when they go oh this is a danger to our democracy which happens all the fucking time. Ah. Like sometimes youre like some I've had people tell me that I'm like well it's good thing. We're not a democracy and they they're like ah we're this one guy this german guy he yeah that this german guy he was like ah he was arguing with me on Facebook about something some guy went to burning man with.

36:30.79

Max Shank

Um, yeah, well there's semantic precision for you right? People don't even know what the word means.

36:45.25

Max Shank

Ah, yeah.

36:47.40

mikebledsoe

I mean this is years ago and he's like he's like something about democracy this and democracy. Yeah I was like well None off, you need to know that you're living in a country that's not a democracy. We're a republic and he's like what's that have to do with anything um like like you know, ah.

37:00.21

Max Shank

Ah.

37:05.75

mikebledsoe

The entire basis of your point is is being built around the idea of democracy That's that that doesn't actually exist here. So um.

37:16.43

Max Shank

Basically the Republic that was set up with Independence was to try to put as much shit in the way as possible from the government doing anything and and that's and that's the correct choice by the way it's.

37:26.17

mikebledsoe

Yeah, if you and the and the constitution was the constitution when you read it was it doesn't grant any rights to anybody it limits the government from impeding upon the rights that every individual has.

37:31.86

Max Shank

It's way more stable.

37:40.40

Max Shank

Exactly and isn't it Yeah isn't it funny too. We even havent I think it's the ninth one that says ah there are also more rights that we didn't write down.

37:46.15

mikebledsoe

And so yeah.

37:58.54

Max Shank

Basically, there's there's one like that. It's like you know, free speech and firearms. And honestly, if you have those 2 eventually it'll rebalance. It'll be a little turbulent but the whole like you know troops in peace time and not ah incriminating yourself and all these things that ah go on up. Ah, to that one where it's like Also we this this list is not Complete. We have even more than we wrote down.

38:23.89

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, hopefully you get the idea and then people didn't but but the thing is yeah um.

38:31.69

Max Shank

It's because they traded freedom for security and there's a quote about that people who trade freedom None security will lose both and deserve neither I think that might have been Jefferson I think it might have been Jefferson but maybe ah.

38:41.00

mikebledsoe

So Benjamin Franklin I think I put money on franklin yeah, but I mean nonetheless. Um, yeah, that that is what's happened so the other thing I want to hit on which what we were talking about the technology leading to freedom or freedom leading to technology I think.

38:48.40

Max Shank

Maybe it was Franklin I don't okay, yeah yeah.

39:06.12

mikebledsoe

I think the desire to be free is what does drive a lot of technology but an example so what created so I'm going to go back to the 2 things that created the situation in 76 when the founding fathers go you know what fuck you? we're doing our own thing. Is they had 2 things they had the enlightenment period so they had the philosophy which was the the development of consciousness to the degree in which they they recognized equal rights amongst every human being That's why it was written was it executed that way. Absolutely not. But guess what? we fast forward to today. It's been corrected. Tremendously. Um I think that if anyone were to argue that it's not as good now as it was two hundred years ago they'd be an idiot um and then well I would say as far as.

39:55.52

Max Shank

A lot of things are better and some things are worse. But I think Net net is better.

40:01.58

mikebledsoe

Say as far as like equal rights like there's not we don't have discrimination. Ah you know discriminatory laws based yeah well you know? yeah you know people of color and women being able to vote and all these types of things.

40:06.17

Max Shank

Oh that's a funny one. It's like the bros before hose amendments. You know that one.

40:18.22

Max Shank

Well isn't it funny though that we gave recently ah freed slave black men the right to vote long before women like I think that's a funny thing and I I feel that too I mean right now there's a lot of tension. Ah between men and women.

40:19.82

mikebledsoe

Um.

40:27.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

40:37.49

Max Shank

Mostly manufactured. But I think there's a lot more commonality between men of different races than a man and a woman of the same race I don't I don't I don't really think ah I don't think that's it's really more about upbringing but Gosh ah being a man or a woman is like a really.

40:45.51

mikebledsoe

I agree.

40:56.77

Max Shank

Different thing but having a different but having a different skin color in and of itself is not really a different thing and the only reason I believe that is because I'm not a racist and I cannot be a racist and think that generally black people Run faster.

40:57.76

mikebledsoe

It's a very different experience.

41:02.47

mikebledsoe

Not in. Um, what.

41:16.84

Max Shank

Asians are better at musical instruments and math and they become doctors more regularly I mean can't we all agree that this shit happens and not be racist at the same time seems so easy to me.

41:26.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, easy to you but not to people who were had their amygdala hijacked by the media. But ah, so so the 2 things the enlightenment period that gave rise to the philosophy and the way of thinking of equal rights.

41:33.10

Max Shank

Oh.

41:45.59

mikebledsoe

And the None thing that made the revolution possible was the decentralization of violence through the invention of the rifle and so hour to the people and so before the rifle came along.

41:53.85

Max Shank

Power to the people.

42:02.64

mikebledsoe

The amount of training and the cost of Weaponry and armor was too high for the average person to have the rifle comes along you require less training to kill somebody right? You don't need that much training to use a rifle fairly effectively like you can become deadly.

42:09.31

Max Shank

Um, ha ha.

42:22.29

mikebledsoe

You know in an afternoon of practice and exactly and so and.

42:24.70

Max Shank

And totally fuck up some guy who's done martial arts for 40 years with a sword that that changed my whole outlook on martial arts training I remember when I had that realization I was like I got to stop this I got to go start learn how to use a gun I'm not going to let some fucking. Hundred and ten pound asshole shoot me dead after training martial arts for 20 years that's ridiculous so it's it's the great equalizer right.

42:43.83

mikebledsoe

No, no, it is a great equalizer I think Smith and Wesson there's a quote from Smith and Wesson from the gun company has said men and women were created equal and. Smith and Wesson keeps it that way or something like that. Yeah yeah, it's like empowering women to carry a gun. You know like oh you, you don't want to have to rely on men for your safety. Well here's here's ah the great equalizer as you say so yeah, the the rifle would pierce the armor that was.

43:03.47

Max Shank

Oh That's pretty fun. Right.

43:16.54

Max Shank

Down.

43:21.92

mikebledsoe

Previously made to deflect swords and and arrows but a bullet you know, traveling at a thousand feet per second you know it it makes it through and so it really changed how warfare was ah conducted and actually what was that Mel Gibson movie with ah.

43:25.13

Max Shank

Ah.

43:41.73

mikebledsoe

No no the patriot I just saw a clip of it on Instagram and in that movie one of the things that that happened is they ah in a revolutionary war is when guerrilla warfare really started up until that point it was like.

43:41.77

Max Shank

Braveheart no the patriot. Yeah.

44:00.50

mikebledsoe

I've got my army and we're going to just March up to your army because that's what worked when they had like swords and and arrows and all this shit but like warfare actually didn't ah didn't really ah evolve.

44:03.98

Max Shank

Honorable.

44:13.12

Max Shank

In many parts of the world in sophisticated warfare. It was like we're going to March in a line at each other and what's funny is in bravehe heartt another Mel Gibson movie it's also all about freedom like he gets disembowlled and he like yells freedom and.

44:18.95

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

44:26.31

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

44:29.89

Max Shank

They're like doing sneaky shit and coming around the flank and all that stuff. So it's kind of funny how ah those movies really parallel each other under the same banner of free of freedom.

44:37.58

mikebledsoe

Oh for sure for sure. So ah, yeah, just thinking about that and like the scene I saw on Instagram ah, you know I follow ah an Instagram account called zulu fucks. So ah, you know it's a military you know some veterans put that shit together. Some sick fucks and who I enjoy and the ah you know they they have the scene where you know he's killing them with you know, rifles and hatchets and you know that was that was the weapon of his of choice right? He had the the hatchet he could throw and and all that um.

44:58.62

Max Shank

Yeah.

45:10.68

Max Shank

Right? It's like John wick. It's like murder porn right? for dudes John Wick 3 Keanereves fucks people up for 2 hours

45:14.95

mikebledsoe

But yeah, yeah, it is dude I finally watched I watched I've been wanting to watch John Wick for like 10 years and the last time I flew it was on the screen I was like oh fuck I'll watch it now. Um good movie.

45:32.13

Max Shank

It's funny. Yeah, yeah.

45:33.74

mikebledsoe

Actually I really enjoyed it. Ah so ah, so yeah, the the this decentral ah decentralization of violence through the invention of the rifle really is what allowed. Ah the Americans to get together and be able to. Hold the British back and everyone can fight that did not happen back in the day you were either a trained soldier or you weren't and if you weren't a trained soldier. You weren't fighting. Yeah yeah, mostly farmers.

45:53.17

Max Shank

Everyone can fight now I think that's even happening in Ukraine pass out a gun to everybody like.

46:07.57

Max Shank

You're probably a farmer. You know you said something really cool there which was that philosophical change and I often have thought about the fact that slavery is largely due to the definition. In the Dao. Ah 1 of the none passages is that ah naming is the origin of all particular things. So when you say there's this philosophical enlightenment shift. What that means is without that adjustment. People will go on believing the same thing that they have been believing. It's just like momentum. There's ideological momentum just like there's physical momentum. So. It's interesting to look back and see how many people were controlled with. With the threat of violence mostly I think of like ah a plantation in the south right? or or you know even before that just using a whip. You know you got maybe None people ah fully commanding None people and all they have is like whips and these people don't even think ah a. They think I'm I'm a slave and this is normal and this is what slaves do this is like a superior man and this is a slave even the code of hamurabi allegedly the oldest text for law which is basically like if you steal something we'll chop off your hand if you poke a guy's eye out. We'll poke your eye out if you rape his daughter you got to marry her and pay the dad fifty Silver shekels that kind of thing but it would it would refer to people as a superior man or an inferior man or a slave and so there were different classes of people and the reason there were different.

47:45.91

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

47:59.12

Max Shank

Classes of people was because that they believed and accepted those Classifications. So if you accept the classification of that. Ah, and you're and you don't have an. Imbalanced force kind of bringing it back to physics and Momentum. There's no reason that you would stop doing that.

48:19.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah. Um, I just did a quick search for a quote that I saw circulating on on social media which was a quote from Harriet Tubman saying I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.

48:40.91

Max Shank

Oh yeah, that's what I was trying to say but in a worse way I was I was saying it worse.

48:44.65

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but then you know of course if I go to one of the things that popped up I Want to do a search on it to be you know to confirm I was correct and there's ah, a politifact. Um.

48:53.14

Max Shank

A. Oh yeah, very reliable source.

49:00.73

mikebledsoe

That this this is hilarious actually like I never I I rarely ever do this, but it's like I end up on um, http://politifact.com to fact checker right? which is bullshit. Yeah, um.

49:10.18

Max Shank

I Want that job that seems easy I Just get to say right.

49:17.63

mikebledsoe

So. What's what's funny is like um, there's this explanation of how it was ah it was discredited in the none the none time ah like the the way it starts arguing that it was discredited is because um Facebook said it was debunked. And and fake like and then um, yeah, like their their primary sources and opinion from Facebook um, but ah, you know I don't know there. There is some more references and people.

49:39.34

Max Shank

So that's their source is that Facebook said it wasn't real.

49:56.95

mikebledsoe

Think that the comment's ridiculous. But of course if you don't know that you're a slave then of course that's going to sound ridiculous.

50:02.52

Max Shank

Right? The most effective chains are the ones that you don't notice and you can be a slave to different thing I think addiction is kind of like slavery in a lot of cases. Um you become a slave to that behavior or substance or or person.

50:06.23

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

50:21.28

Max Shank

Right? Like a code-dependent relationship like you're just totally totally a slave but you can't get out because you don't know. Ah what that would even look like.

50:29.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well that that quote makes me think about I remember reading um I took ah by the way I took african american english literature in college. There were 2 white people in the class at the beginning at the beginning of the semester.

50:42.79

Max Shank

Seems like a woke flex.

50:49.11

mikebledsoe

And then I was the only white person left at the end of the semester. Ah so to the beginning one was left ah I was really curious I was really yeah I was really really curious. Ah I enjoyed the class I thought it was fun.

50:57.52

Max Shank

Talk about being a minority.

51:08.16

mikebledsoe

I like english lit no matter what like any type of literature. Um I just love it. Ah, but None of the things that I realized in that class because we were reading you know well african american english lit and is that a lot of slaves when they were freed really didn't know what the fuck to do. And the same thing would happen now as if the government took off. You know people are like well what would we do? if there wasn't if nobody was taking care of this this this and this what would we do like we need to have that and and basically what I got from what I had read back then the the general theme that I saw was that.

51:36.60

Max Shank

Totally.

51:46.97

mikebledsoe

A lot of slaves didn't really want to be freed because they didn't know what to do with the freedom like there was a certain level of comfort and safety and knowing that I do this thing I go to work and I work work I work. However, many hours in the field. And there's going to be a meal for me and there's gonna be a roof over my head and yeah, like some things really Suck. You know if you step out of Line. You might get whipped or whatever it is but what was more scary was the uncertainty of freedom.

52:11.75

Max Shank

Right.

52:19.65

Max Shank

Um, I think that that's the only thing people fear is unknown. Um, like if you knew for sure that you were going to die on a certain day you wouldn't even fear it you had just accept it as reality. So it's the uncertainty.

52:21.63

mikebledsoe

Ends. Mostly.

52:36.99

Max Shank

That's why people are more afraid of a shark in the water than a bear on the land because you can't see it right? um.

52:39.75

mikebledsoe

I agree I've had the experience of both. Well I had the experience with the shark is like when I surf and I'm on top of the water. There's a I'm a little more like oh my God if something popped up I'd freak out but I've been diving with sharks and I was incredibly calm because I could see them and I was present with them and.

52:46.43

Max Shank

Um, yeah for right. In the epic of Gilgamesh. That's the scariest part is he's in a tunnel where you can't see a foot ahead or a foot behind and I think that's the oldest epic novel written down was ah was the epic of Gilgamesh but that was you know he's fighting all these like gods and monsters and shit.

52:58.86

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, encounter with bear recently and that wasn't so bad.

53:09.97

mikebledsoe

Um.

53:18.72

Max Shank

Not afraid. It's just when he's in the pitch black tunnel. He can't see what's ahead or what's behind and that's what the fear is really about I Think if you take what you're talking about um as ah as a leader something of a leader myself and often in the past very a very bad leader.

53:24.70

mikebledsoe

In 1

53:38.71

Max Shank

Ah, a lot of people are are craving direction. They're craving direction they want so they want a director just tell me what to do.

53:44.61

mikebledsoe

Yeah, Ashley and I had this conversation yesterday we were talking about marketing. We were talking about marketing I was like like really we we were. We were driving down the road and analyzing billboards and I was and and um because it's a fun exercise for me, but ah.

53:55.72

Max Shank

Ah, ah, ah, sounds really fun.

54:04.53

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and ah I was like oh they could have said it way better and people would have taken the action they want them to if they would have said it like this and it was simply changing the language ah to tell people exactly what to do instead of telling people what I do like.

54:16.47

Max Shank

Right.

54:21.77

mikebledsoe

If I want you to work with me I don't tell you what I do I Tell you what you do with me and so.

54:22.94

Max Shank

Well and even more you're gonna say here's what you're gonna do here's what it's gonna look like here's how it's gonna feel this is exactly because what you're doing I think of it like.

54:32.24

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, um.

54:40.82

Max Shank

You're taking someone from one shore across a river to another one and that other shore across the river is basically like the the pot of gold at the rainbow. It's everything they want and everything you have and what you're doing is you are creating and manifesting. An image that helps them believe and see how they are going to cross that potentially very turbulent river so it's bringing certainty through imagination and having a direct action that is really clear to take. Like call this number now for your free blank is ah is a way better call to action than what I like to do is blah blah blah blah blah it's like whoa. No people do crave that direction I can absolutely understand. Why being ah freed after a life of servitude would be bad. It would be like ah Batman Batman telling Alfred to fuck off basically right and he's like whoa. No I've been I've been serving the batmans. The Bruce Waynes and all that stuff for years I think a similar example is ah.

55:40.95

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

55:50.40

mikebledsoe

Well I want to I want to leave I go around.

55:52.85

Max Shank

Ah, stay a stay at home mom a stay at home. This is my last example on this thing because like a stay at home mom you're 20 years as part of a functioning family unit and now suddenly you're like I think I'm going to reenter the workforce and that was a lifetime ago so that that uncertainty is.

56:05.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah, my mom did that sheet I think she didn't work for 1819 years and then went back in and I think it was a little overwhelming for her at the beginning. But yeah, the yeah yeah.

56:11.51

Max Shank

Very pf.

56:17.63

Max Shank

What do I What do I Do tell someone tell me what to do and we're trained that way. You know we're crate trained in school obedience school I mean to do what other people tell us to do So it's no surprise that most people fall in line.

56:35.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and I I bring all this up because um, you know some people are going to hate me for saying it. But like people we weren't joking at the beginning of the show. We were kind of joking we were weren't joking that we're fractional slaves in that if you don't.

56:36.34

Max Shank

With that ideology.

56:52.70

Max Shank

Yeah.

56:54.82

mikebledsoe

If We don't if we don't voluntarily participate with paying taxes and doing some other things and we're going to get beat down with a stick and stuck in a cage. Ah so like so like I think a lot of times. It's hard. For people to hear a statement from a white guy about ah such things. Yeah.

57:17.77

Max Shank

Only for racists only for racists if you discount the opinion of a person based on the lack or presence of melanin their skin. You're fucking racist just because someone's black doesn't mean we should think what they have to say matters and just because a guy is white. Doesn't mean that what he says doesn't matter the whole the whole idea of anti-racism is just racism by a different name that that is like a huge ah that's a type of ideological enslavement is thinking that that. Bullshit matters and those are burdens those are chains that you got to wear and like I was saying at the very beginning the news cycle is making you care about so many things that are outside your control and you're just going to get a greater and greater separation. Between your locus of control which is literally just you and then your radius of awareness of what is going on and they're like hey this important thing is happening a million miles away hey this important thing is happening to this ah gay something black. Whatever guy. And I'm not trying to like demean anybody it's just like those things don't matter. That's a person who should have rights just like another person. The idea that they should be different like adjusted up or adjusted down based on None of their features. That's fucking retarded basically like I don't know ben.

58:47.78

mikebledsoe

Ah I agree I agree because and because at the end of the day is you? You are one of the few that actually believe in equal rights and anyone who who you know that's that's how I've I've started making a lot of my conversations lately when someone makes. A statement about something that's political I go Oh well, do you believe in equal rights and then I go tell me about like you know do do you have like a definition for equal rights and they never do and then I provide them with a definition and then.

59:16.80

Max Shank

And.

59:24.50

mikebledsoe

And then usually we can't get very far after that because the definition of equal rights is is so difficult for them to even have a conversation about that because it because it challenges all the ideas it it challenges their ideology because before. They heard equal rights and they that they don't know what equal rights means and then they build a whole ideology that assumes that it's based on equal rights. But then when you go and visit that that um that that thing at the core that everyone thinks they agree on and then you say well let's define it. And now we're we're taking the foundation of what they believe to be the foundation of their ideology and we just fucking take it out from underneath them. It. It gets a little shaky.

01:00:11.20

Max Shank

Well, it's it's like is the game Fair I mean I used to do that and I thought it was pretty smart. It I thought it was like fun and kind of sporting to like ah slowly ah help people realize that everything they believe is fucking stupid and doesn't have any basis in reality. But it's not even fun anymore because it's so Common. It's not even difficult. But um, basically it does come I mean who who decides who decides? That's all who decides all of the other stuff So That's why I say it's It's not about so people conflate.

01:00:37.63

mikebledsoe

It's so easy to be. You know these days. All you got to believe in equal rights and be weirdo.

01:00:49.91

Max Shank

Or as you say there's a collapse distinction between equal opportunity and equal outcome and that's the big mistake because if you're looking to create an equal outcome then by definition the game can't be fair because you're going to be adjusting the rules based on the players.

01:01:05.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, you can't have equal. You can't you can't have equal opportunity and equal outcome. They can't exist at the same time.

01:01:08.77

Max Shank

And that it takes us right back to who decides who if I'm a fucking referee in a boxing match and anytime one of the guys gets punched I stop the fight to give him a little rest. That's not a fair game. But I can make the outcome equal right? So basically comes back to who decides Well now the referee gets to decide the fight who would fucking watch that game. It's It's ridiculous and I I think what helps a lot is just to imagine a smaller.

01:01:28.60

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:01:47.25

Max Shank

Group of people you know who is the None doing the stealing who is the None being stolen from who's the None profiting from that stealing you know you can easily sort these things out but trying to change someone's mind I think that's mostly an energetic loss unless you're really going to. Dedicate yourself to it. The best thing you can do is to free yourself from this idea that talking about that shit even matters I mean Mike and myself were hoping to illuminate this topic so you and us can all be unburdened. So that we can go do. What's really valuable and value as individual. Ah you know, bottled water at Coachella extremely valuable bottled water at Lake Tahoe Not very valuable. But if you focus on value. And values within yourself. That's good and you're going to get a much better return on your energy. But if you like spend time having these like arguments. It. It just takes away that that joy I mean if you find it fun like for sport. Ah you know, go nuts. But you're not going to.

01:02:55.21

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:03:03.18

Max Shank

Make a really significant ah change in people's minds unless you're like okay I'm going to like there are people out there like Russell Brand for example he is like basically making a career out of illuminating what's going on in a pretty humorous way. So like. That's why I'm not going to try to do something like that is like he's already handling that plus is not really a good way for me to generate the most value because after freedom and love the best thing is to be generous really like. If you if you already are kind of wealthy. You already know this if you're not very wealthy yet you might understand this but I guarantee for those of you who are like on your way up to being like really wealthy. You're going to buy yourself a bunch of fucking toys. This is what happened to me at least. You're going to go god damn that is not nearly as fun as taking my friends out to lunch and you'll realize that the the generosity is what fuels you to do more things. So love freedom and then sharing that generosity is where it's at. But. If you get tripped up by all this bullshit about like genitals and colors and sexual orientation like is fucking. Tiresome freedom is about who decides and if it's you it's freedom if it's not then it's some slavery and it can be fractional. And I'm not I don't it's not that I don't appreciate what I have I am super appreciative what I have I am grateful every day and like let's not kid ourselves. There are a lot of things that happen that are just fucking stupid and it's okay to to recognize that.

01:04:51.17

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah I think at the core that is just um or what for me is ah, not having any expectation around say changing somebody's mind. It's like I'll engage in the conversation. But I'm not.

01:05:05.95

Max Shank

Ooh Yeah, now you're talking.

01:05:08.97

mikebledsoe

If I have the expectation there there should They should be thinking like me by the end I'm going to suffer. It's gonna I'm gonna be miserable. It's not going to be fun and the only way I can have fun in these types of conversations is to realize that I'm not going to change their mind and that's okay.

01:05:13.83

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:05:27.70

mikebledsoe

In the best case scenario the way I see it is the best case scenario is I plant a seed that they may wake up in a week and they go something happens and they go shit that thing Mike said that actually kind of makes sense. But.

01:05:40.42

Max Shank

But your attitude your attitude in. That example is exactly freedom. You're not saying I need to change this person's mind you're saying I'm gonna say what I think is true. They are free.

01:05:48.61

mikebledsoe

Right.

01:05:55.80

Max Shank

But I mean that's what freedom of religion really is like you're free to think of whatever you want to think I mean there are a lot of different religions to choose from. So you're free to do that I think um, just respecting people's boundaries is so awesome If it feels good too like you won't feel. It's an extra burden.

01:06:04.19

mikebledsoe

I yeah.

01:06:13.34

Max Shank

To be the enslaver. Also that's what I was saying in the very beginning like I don't want to be your fucking Mama I want to have a conversation with my buddy Mike here hopefully bring into reality some of these nuggets that I work on throughout the week and there are times where a sentence. Or even a couple words are a catalyst for a big change and that's what I think is really cool like what you're talking about.

01:06:38.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, so yeah, never having the expectation making it fun remaining curious I think I think the ah the second part is the reason I get in the conversations is because I'm genuinely curious how they're how they've come to the conclusion.

01:06:53.78

Max Shank

Oh.

01:06:58.64

mikebledsoe

They've come to and 1 of the things I noticed is when I start getting really curious about how they got there. They usually ruffles some feathers so it's more like yeah I'm like um, like yeah because they don't know how because they actually don't know how they got there most of the time sometimes they do that conversation gets really enlightening.

01:07:06.10

Max Shank

Oh yeah, it's not comfortable.

01:07:17.75

mikebledsoe

But most people most people have no idea how they got to where they are Bait thought they actually haven't thought it through and so to have the expectation they're going to now think it through with you. That's that's a little much but also just like the curiosity I'm like how do I. For me I go How can I be the best communicator possible I have to know where they're coming from I can't have an effective conversation until I actually understand how they think about this or how they and how they feel about this and if I can really get in there and understand it.

01:07:39.42

Max Shank

The.

01:07:48.91

Max Shank

A.

01:07:55.97

mikebledsoe

Now I might have a chance. But if you are going with the expectation to change your mind your ability to be curious is diminished because you have an expectation of an outcome. So it's yeah yeah.

01:08:07.24

Max Shank

You're trying to ah you're trying to fix the game Basically like you're not really curiously looking for a solution you're trying to force your solution and if you think about where people derive these beliefs from it's easy someone else.

01:08:22.27

mikebledsoe

Totally totally lot easier that way.

01:08:22.84

Max Shank

Gave it to him. That's all someone else gave it to you. It's crazy you you hear the same phrases repeated and if you dissect it down. They have no clue why they're even saying what they're saying logical fallacies. False Equivalency is this false premise invalid thought process like It's no surprise. But I do think curiosity is the best way to approach it and detachment because then you can. That's how you really learn learning is mostly about ah curiosity and if you're really curious about something you'll figure it out. You have Youtube you have the internet. You can you can figure things out and having conversations is a good way to test these ideas out. It's like science is all about the scientists trying to prove each other wrong not about like slapping each other on the back and saying how right they are without any inquiry.

01:09:14.45

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think that's a good point because a lot of these come I think back to one I had when I was in California last month with somebody and we nobody was sober but we were having a conversation and ah. It caused this is ah ah it was a rare occasion of someone who had thought through to a degree to where um I then left the conversation I go how do I better explain this or like like how do I better. Ah. Like these conversations where there's disagreement allows me to I sometimes use the word fortify but I don't think that's as accurate as just create more accuracy in what I'm saying and so it can be received better but also sometimes question like oh is my thinking right. And having someone challenge that is is super beneficial because if you leave me alone in isolation and I just have my thoughts so I like I have a friend who a friend that I have a friend that doesn't go out much and they're extremely judgmental about everything. Not you.

01:10:18.80

Max Shank

Everything makes sense. Everything makes sense then.

01:10:28.40

mikebledsoe

They're extremely but rent like um doesn't Um, they don't go out hardly at all and like they have all these ideas about how people are out in town. Oh this person's like this and this person I'm like I'm like.

01:10:28.64

Max Shank

Don't talk to me about me this way. Dude What do you do this to me for we're on the air homie.

01:10:48.10

mikebledsoe

I'm out in town I'm out there mixing it up like I actually and he says says something like like yeah I don't think that's actually what's motivating them. So like this if you're if you're not in the mix then you're gonna have a hard time note and and if you want if you choose not to be in the mix.

01:10:48.47

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:11:07.18

mikebledsoe

Just choose just be sure not to be judgmental of everyone in there because you don't know what's going on for them.

01:11:10.81

Max Shank

Yo Well I mean that's an easy way to be happy is just don't judge people don't blame don't shame whatever but I think it's not that he is by himself. It's that his. Echo Chamber that he's created with technology because otherwise he's not he's got to get these ideas from somewhere right? So He's just got a really.

01:11:28.66

mikebledsoe

How yeah it is is's definitely so it's It's basically text message shreds and social media and.

01:11:35.35

Max Shank

Right? Which is which is basically like a ah like ah a poisonous feedback loop I would want to say because you are going to be optimized for things that outrage you. So I mean it's True. This is just like ah. The the reality of it. We're wired that way if you see a fucking naked chick on your left and a growling tiger on your right? Unfortunately, even you fucking pervert will look at the growling tiger and try to react to that danger None right.

01:12:09.76

mikebledsoe

Totally and I'm perverted. Yeah and I'm perverted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:12:12.79

Max Shank

So it's the same thing when you create your own What's that you you are perverted in the nicest way possible I don't mean that as an insult folks. Ah, but so you create your own echo chamber the algorithm feeds you more of what you react to? So sadly. You will see more and more of what you dislike and that's not ah if we're going to talk about statistics which is already ah fucking bullshit mostly what that Mark Twain quote there are lies damn lies and statistics exactly that's right.

01:12:43.49

mikebledsoe

Um, there are lives damn lies and then there are statistics.

01:12:52.10

Max Shank

Ah, if if your sample size is just whatever the software shows you to get the most significant reaction you're gonna be just fucking swimming in a pool of the stuff you Hate. It's. Probably like the worst thing one of the worst thing this bad.

01:13:11.85

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and and 2022 we have record breaking rates of depression anxiety all these things.

01:13:21.70

Max Shank

Dude when they first closed things down I made a bet that more people were gonna kill themselves than be killed and you should have seen the gnashing of teeth and the wailing that people through there and it's like look I don't know for sure. But.

01:13:34.30

mikebledsoe

Ah, a.

01:13:39.40

Max Shank

It's usually better to do nothing.. It's usually better to do nothing like the the idea of unintended consequences. That's what I'm saying like no one is smart enough to figure that shit out So when you go like oh who decides the fucking benevolent. Genius He's still going to fuck it up. Because there are too many data points to Consider. So.

01:13:58.97

mikebledsoe

Yeah I saw saw a meme the other day which was ah what we're experiencing right now you know time travel does exist and someone keeps going back to the year Twenty twenty and tweaking things and just making things worse. It's just like. Been a downward. It's been a fucking downward spiral since 2020 and in in society and I do think that it's leading to a ah, an awakening a revolution I don't I don't think it needs to be bloody I hope it's not ah.

01:14:29.41

Max Shank

Awakening. Yeah.

01:14:37.20

mikebledsoe

I Think it's going to be. It's so technologically driven that I think it's I think there's going to be some violent areas will erupt in the world like certain cities in the Us which is kind of. We're already starting to see that. Ah yeah.

01:14:51.44

Max Shank

That had already happened right? We should talk technology next week by the way, let's talk technology next week I I saw this thing ah they had ah um.

01:14:55.31

mikebledsoe

And technology. Yeah.

01:15:05.85

Max Shank

Think it was like 6000 drones flying together. It was the world record for the most. Ah for the largest drone swarm that was being flown around and that kind of stuff when within the last year I would say it.

01:15:13.45

mikebledsoe

Where was this? yeah okay because Bernie Man 2018 they we saw the largest drone show up until that point with a swarm of drones. It was.

01:15:26.48

Max Shank

Um, yeah, wild right? different colors different shapes in 3 d space and these things can move so fast they can move so fast too. Yeah.

01:15:30.82

mikebledsoe

1 or two a m with different lights. There was an orchestra there was an orchestra playing there's an orchestra playing as they're doing it. It's fucking crazy. So 6000 which is more than what I saw mine was probably like a None

01:15:43.32

Max Shank

None plus it might have even been 8 it was that it was this insane thing and it's like the average person has no idea how their refrigerator works and a refrigerator for how useful it is is a very like it's. Very elegant, simple machine a computer a drone electricity these things get so much more and more complex like silicon chips. These different things that we have available to us now is so far beyond what the average person can understand we have like we can. We can blast heat waves for crowd control but they're concerned that maybe it will like melt their retina and melt their eyeballs. It's It's really wild. So I think that's another ah good reason to diversify and divide the power up amongst a larger group of people rather than to just have None person with his finger on the button and that's um, you know. Chain of command is how organizations work and you need someone who's got the final say and it just gets a little bit tricky but.

01:17:02.30

mikebledsoe

It's just I like I mean there's always going to be a hierarchy but can there be smaller groups of people existing inside of hierarchy. That's.

01:17:09.42

Max Shank

I Like the hierarchy of the customer is always right because everything else is really messy. Everything else is really messy like you let people buy what they want to Buy. It's like that saying ah the love of money is the root of all evil or money is the root of all evil I Mean. No, like there are problems like printing money is a real problem I think but but money itself that allows me to trade a candlestick for a loaf of bread without finding a baker who wants a candlestick that is incredible. That's in. Credible How quickly we can deliver value to each other at a profit so there are all these amazing things and you know you don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. This is a mistake I made in the past is I would just be like fuck it burn it Down. It's bad. You know and that's not really the case either most of the um luxury and benefits in our life are directly related to technology because um, by and large. We don't need a lot of the bullshit that our tax dollars go to So. There's a problem there. But overall you got to be really grateful for the time that we're living in and certainly the place. But.

01:18:41.90

mikebledsoe

No better time or place. No better timer place. Yeah, anything else seems ridiculous. Well let's ah, let's wrap this show up next week. We'll get in technology which.

01:18:45.81

Max Shank

That's the right attitude. Yeah, yeah.

01:18:57.62

mikebledsoe

We'll see if we actually follow through with what we plan on doing the next week this time we'll see yep.

01:18:59.51

Max Shank

All right I got I gotta I think we did this time I got I got a wrap for you ready not an actual wrap. We'll save that for the the the member account I'll do a little freestyle and you can you beat box. Okay so Mike is gonna look.

01:19:12.10

mikebledsoe

No you, you've seen me I might might.

01:19:17.21

Max Shank

Mike is going to learn how to beat box before next week and I will do a wrap for our subscribers. So check it out here's what we have as far as freedoms. We have freedom of our our time we have freedom of location. A lot of people are doing remote work now. They're not tied to a specific location. We have financial freedom. Which basically just means you have enough to buy back your time and ah solve any money related problems. You have the freedom from and of beliefs I think a lot of people are enslaved by beliefs that are a not true and b destructive and then you also have. Physical freedom and this is something that I have a lot of experience with this is what all of my training programs are about is how to get you more physically free within your own body so you get to make the decisions not your sore knee. Not your sore back. Which is basically like a little tyrant who's like fuck you don't climb that tree. So unfortunately most exercise maybe ninety plus percent and maybe 95 plus they waste your energy and make you less athletic. That's that's real shit. Okay.

01:20:29.66

mikebledsoe

Accurate.

01:20:32.76

Max Shank

So freedom of time freedom of location freedom of money freedom to freedom of and from Beliefs and also physical freedom. That's that's what I got for you guys.

01:20:42.51

mikebledsoe

Well said well son and remember get that context before the content understand you know why the constitution says what it says look here's the thing I don't think it's the end. All be all.

01:20:52.10

Max Shank

Ooh Talk dirty.

01:21:00.72

mikebledsoe

But it's the best we got So with that we'll leave it there go to Masank Dot Com Yeah and what's the go to the Bloodso show dot Com Hopefully I'll get that members area up soon when I say I I mean my team will get the members area up soon.

01:21:05.81

Max Shank

Um, who the http://bloodsoho.com

01:21:16.95

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:21:20.10

mikebledsoe

And ah, we'll get it rocking and rolling. Love you guys. Happy Independence day.

01:21:24.66

Max Shank

Love you brother take care Bye everybody.

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