Monday Morning - Fluid Identity & Tribalism

00:00.00	mikebledsoe	Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're gonna be talking about how to make better decisions using using vision values and boundaries and I'll tell you what we've already gotten into some interesting conversation before we fired up the mics and that's why we decided we need to just get this show started right now because we were getting. Often to some interesting weeds because we'll probably talk about genetics as well. How you doing max.
00:25.52	Max Shank	I'm doing good man I'm excited to talk about this I think that the more wealth you get the more time you can spend and the less overall decisions. You must make. Ah, investing is a good example of that where you have a really high amount of Leverage. So Every decision is very significant and the precision. Ah and accuracy of those decisions is amplified because a small error one way or the other can really. Increase the cost and reduce the benefit. So all the way from deciding what to pull out of the fridge to eat and deciding which company to invest to and which partner to Choose. It's the most important thing ever and a lot of things influence your decision making.
01:15.34	mikebledsoe	Yeah, one of the things that brought this up for me is I I have this whole. Ah I have a lot of momentum in my life to travel and there's a lot of events and ah. I I started to notice that I desire to attend less and less things and spend more time at home and really honing in on what's really important and what's not important in getting into these conversations with my girlfriend and really noticing you know. You know if you have no vision and you're trying to make decisions then you're really doomed to the momentum of the past you're not gonna create anything new Consciously. So well, there's 2 factors here. You're you're gonna repeat the past and. And the patterns of the past. But also you're way more susceptible to other people's visions. So if somebody else is intentionally creating a vision and you're being impacted by that and you've created no vision whatsoever for yourself then you you probably won't even notice. That you they you may wonder how did I get to this place in my life. Well you it was a mixture of repeating your your historical patterns and the historical patterns of others and the intentional vision of others as well.
02:45.94	Max Shank	It doesn't sound good. That's for sure. ah ah I totally relate on the traveling thing as you know I traveled like an absolute maniac for many years
02:51.43	mikebledsoe	Ah, don't be a sucker.
03:04.96	Max Shank	I think I was like ah like a street cred Conquistador I would go to different cities around the world and I would teach the Holy Gospel of whatever I knew at the time and pretend like it was this. Massive Authority and people responded favorably to that which was so weird I can't I can't explain what that shift was like because I rose up so fast from being a personal trainer. Going to attend certifications to being only a couple years older and teaching those certifications and I was just trying to grab as much alphaness and street cred and want people to love Me. Maybe even Adoration I think.
03:58.82	mikebledsoe	I got there I think.
04:00.43	Max Shank	And right and that was what I saw as the best model the people who were the best in health and fitness industry were the ones who wrote the books and flew around the world teaching seminars and. I've always been one to ah hit the eject button really fast as soon as the appropriate catalyst is there so I went from 20 to 30 trips a year flying and teaching all over to 0 within one weekend. Just chose I was like wow I don't think I actually like this I just want people to like me more than other people. How greedy does that sound I want people to like me way more than other people. So I'm going to keep sacrificing whatever i. Actually want to do and might have fun with and might be ah sustainable or I can you know keep doing this thing where I I just hope people will love me if I do it good enough.
05:11.55	mikebledsoe	Yeah, oh what's your relationship to compliments.
05:16.64	Max Shank	Ah I would have to get one first but ah I would imagine if someone did give me a compliment I would deflect it I would deflect it humorously.
05:27.62	mikebledsoe	Max you're you're so you not. So would you say maybe you you started getting compliments and you you didn't like it.
05:38.27	Max Shank	Um I started feeling exposed ah like people would just it was so weird, almost everywhere I go people would recognize me like on the street or in a store and that was a.
05:42.20	mikebledsoe	Ah, by right? You're getting more attention and you felt exposed.
05:53.95	mikebledsoe	Yeah.
05:58.50	Max Shank	Was a total mind fuck and I'm I'm like in the big scheme of things compared to Bill Murray or something like that I'm nobody but just being recognized when you think you're a stranger in a crowd it. It was a total mind fuck I mean I didn't.
06:16.23	mikebledsoe	You're not yes.
06:17.10	Max Shank	It wasn't like harmful that part but I had to fortunately I had the luxury to reevaluate how I wanted to live my life and I realized I I didn't want to be hustling around on planes and in and out of hotels and so.
06:33.57	mikebledsoe	So yeah, what? what? ah was can you think of what what created that because usually there's sometime of real a birthday.
06:36.18	Max Shank	The boundary came up really fast and I've.
06:43.49	Max Shank	Is Birth Birth is birthday I do some good introspection around birthdays and I I went to the Bahamas with a good friend of mine and it was no I didn't work at all. And it was that was rare and I just hung out on the beach and I ran around and played games and went on water slides I was like wow this is this is really fun and it's not because ah you know later I'll get more if I do a good job.
07:19.33	mikebledsoe	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:22.32	Max Shank	It was just fun. Yeah, so.
07:28.69	Max Shank	You know what catalyst means something that causes or accelerates a reaction without changing and I thought that was really I just looked this up the other day.
07:32.83	mikebledsoe	No no.
07:42.88	mikebledsoe	Would that be like ah an enzyme that that would would cause the change but maintains its own attributes. Interesting.
07:46.54	Max Shank	Exactly. Yeah, and I had never known that before and it was such a cool thing because I realized that's what I would Ah, that's how I would like to do things ah from ah. I would say from a teaching perspective but that's not really the full story because actually one of the best things about teaching is that you do ah become changed quite a lot from the different variety of students that you interact with yeah.
08:20.16	mikebledsoe	But I've learned more teaching never did from sitting in a room. Yeah.
08:25.63	Max Shank	So it so it doesn't really make sense that way but I definitely think the concept of a catalyst is really cool. It's like you don't have to give some of yourself and diminish yourself so that you can create that reaction again.
08:27.99	mikebledsoe	I think I think being a.
08:35.23	mikebledsoe	Totally, there's ah, there's a conversation we have in my strong coach curriculum early on which is creating distinctions so you have you have definitions of words but you also have distinctions and that means that. And the reason we have those is because in in our society people tend to collapse the definitions of 2 words because they don't actually know the definitions and they don't create a distinction between the two and we talk about service and sacrifice and how that's a very common collapse distinction in the.
08:59.46	Max Shank	Right.
09:09.83	Max Shank	Um, yeah.
09:13.33	mikebledsoe	Entrepreneurial world. Um, it's it's ah if you look at the different cat The you know the the Us caste system. You know we got our different classes of people and so the the blue collar class which is what.
09:29.31	Max Shank	Um, yeah.
09:31.88	mikebledsoe	But I came from is the service and sacrifice are almost sine synonymous right? and they ah they get those words are interchanged. You know part of that's part of that's a.
09:37.77	Max Shank	And.
09:51.30	mikebledsoe	Probably due to christianity and you know Jesus Christ as as the servant that made the greatest sacrifice I imagine that's put together. Also, if also if.
09:53.61	Max Shank	Yeah.
10:02.52	Max Shank	It's a more compelling story. It's a more compelling So story if you sacrifice yourself. Um I don't think it's a healthy attitude. But I think a lot of people are under the impression that if you are wounded in some way in the service of others. Then you get a little bit more street cred and it it does make a more compelling story.
10:23.56	mikebledsoe	There's there's it's it's noble and you should be proud and that's yeah, so it this what I notice after working you know digging around at a bunch of people's minds.
10:27.93	Max Shank	A martyr.
10:39.52	mikebledsoe	And I've worked with people who ah, most of the people I've worked with come from a blue collar background or their parents were in some way and a handful of people who grew up in homes where you know, ah the relationship to money was very different. The the way they lived. Their lives were very different things were.
10:57.89	Max Shank	A.
10:57.93	mikebledsoe	Little easier and they don't have that collapse distinction. They they go Oh this is service and the sacrifice these are different things I've I've taught people this before and in a room and some people are like yeah duh. It's like oh tell me about how you grew up. Okay, oh someone who's.
11:08.19	Max Shank	Man.
11:14.54	Max Shank	No.
11:17.36	mikebledsoe	Who goes Oh my God that was a huge exercise for me. It's like oh how did you grow up interesting here and so also if you're if you're somebody who's in power. So say you're you're running a country or something like that if you can convince the lower class people that. Must sacrifice in order to be of service and if you're not being of service then you're a leech on society and you don't feel good about yourself If You're not sacrificing So It's a really good story to tell in order to get people to enlist in the military.. It's a really good story to tell.
11:42.93	Max Shank	Um, yeah.
11:55.87	mikebledsoe	People to sign up for all sorts of jobs where you may lose your life or a limb or is incredibly demanding of your time and energy. And yeah, it's the more I've dug into this the more. Disgusting. It seems in some ways. Um, if it's being used intentionally now if it's if this is just like the unintentional use of language over time and so on and so Forth. Then you know there's you know there's there's intentional use of it.
12:15.73	Max Shank	It is.
12:24.80	Max Shank	Um.
12:32.90	mikebledsoe	Which would be considered Evil There's the the ignorance. Maybe they're just being ignorant is ignorant use of it. Which means that you know ignorance and laziness go hand in hand because Ignorance is ah the activity of ignoring. So The the. Information is present but you choose to ignore it because it's uncomfortable and lazy people tend to avoid discomfort and then and then you yeah I mean well well, there's.
12:52.93	Max Shank	Ah.
13:03.87	Max Shank	Doesn't everybody devoid Avoid discomfort though I mean I don't want people to have a complex if they feel lazy Lazy is the natural state lazy and ignorant are the instinctual states which I think we can talk about more later.
13:10.96	mikebledsoe	Well, there's well, there's well, there's I agree. Totally totally totally. So then you have so you have intentional. You have ignorant and then and then you have just nation.
13:20.95	Max Shank	Yeah.
13:28.65	mikebledsoe	Which means that you just have not been exposed to the information at all and so I like that create distinctions between nations and or nasance and and ignorance because ignorance is you've been presented with the information and you've ignored it. So.
13:31.73	Max Shank	Right.
13:44.37	Max Shank	Um, that's so interesting I bet a lot of people think of ignorant as they don't know which is different than ignore and like you're ignoring as an active choice I I think that's ah, really interesting. You bring that up.
13:46.62	mikebledsoe	Of. Yeah, yeah, or it. Yeah. Exactly.
14:04.37	Max Shank	I bet because I used to use ignorant that way too like oh I was ignorant like I didn't know but it's more that I knew and ignored it that is a huge shift in that word. Huge.
14:08.77	mikebledsoe	Well here's the other thing is ah huge huge difference and a lot of people are ignoring things that they'll claim their nation to like oh I just didn't know it's like no that that was sitting there. You know there was.
14:21.25	Max Shank	Got it I didn't know. Yeah.
14:28.20	mikebledsoe	So like it's like walking into a room and there's ah, there's an elephant in the corner and you're for some reason you just don't notice it. It's like no it. It's been sitting there. Yeah talking about the elephant in the room right? that some people are surprised. Yeah, people are surprised by it.
14:37.37	Max Shank	Right? And how do you choose? What information is significant because you have to yeah so you might be ignorant with the best of intentions right? thinking? Oh that's not important right? that's.
14:48.50	mikebledsoe	For instance, the last the last two years with the best of intentions.
14:56.37	Max Shank	Where you and I ah like we come across that word evil and so my guess is there are lots of people in the world. Ah, who are real busybodies and they think that if they can just kill 1000000000 they'll save the other 6000000000 or some some kind of fraction.
14:59.19	mikebledsoe	Yeah, yeah.
15:15.12	Max Shank	Like that I don't know look that seems and here's the thing here's that no, we'll just kill. Ah, one of them like an unceremonious random one because if you truly believe if you have the power and you truly believe.
15:15.48	mikebledsoe	Will we'll kill the 6 bad ones or the one bat about 1000000000 bad people.
15:34.82	Max Shank	That the world is totally fucked unless you do something you're going to feel a lot of pain all day every day until you resolve that problem and if you have in your mind only a couple choices you'll say do I Let all.
15:52.67	mikebledsoe	And I got I got multiple phone I got multiple phone calls. Let me let me pause this I got a potential emergency.
15:53.29	Max Shank	The whole planet die or do I kill 1000000000 people
16:00.50	Max Shank	Okay, all right? So basically we have this kind of a situation. We have people who are thinking that they must save the world because they really believe the world or all of humanity itself will be destroyed. They have the power to enact the changes that they think will make that difference and they are faced with a choice of let's say kill 1000000000 to save the other six I can understand why they would a do it and b. Not think themselves. Evil.
16:39.82	mikebledsoe	Yeah, this ah have you ever watched cloud atlas with Tom Hanks oh man 1 of my favorite movies of all time. Yeah, it's a long one. It's like three and half hours it it didn't get a lot of attention when it came out because.
16:45.75	Max Shank	No oh really, that's cool. Ah.
16:59.90	mikebledsoe	It's deeply philosophical and you have to pay attention to what's going on for a long period of time so you have to have an attention span which means that you know almost nobody saw it and ah yeah. Yeah there's just a part in the movie where it's it's all about like people controlling other groups of people and oppressing other people and it was highlighting and it's and it's many different timelines. It's like something that was happening five hundred years ago and something else that was happening.
17:24.78	Max Shank	That's human culture in a nutshell.
17:33.65	Max Shank	The.
17:36.50	mikebledsoe	You know something was happening in the 70 s something was happening currently. There's some and then it's the it's 300 years in the future and there's these different timelines that are all over like the the energy and the patterns were overlapping and basically there was a ah.
17:41.55	Max Shank	Ah.
17:55.28	mikebledsoe	Period of time where they were looking at when there were slaves there was you know white people were enslaving black people and all that and you know there's a a part in the movie where you know it's like hey we should probably stop this and then but leading up to that The guys that believed him is like oh it's our it's our divine purpose. You know.
18:13.30	Max Shank	Oh yeah.
18:14.81	mikebledsoe	God has told us to go and conquer these people and the same thing happened when you know people come to America and you know it's like we're gonna take this land. It's like yeah, there's there's some brown people here. But you know we we could probably just take this land. You know there's they're paid for the greater. Good.
18:21.57	Max Shank	Yeah.
18:30.10	Max Shank	For the greater good by the grace of God for the greater good by the grace of God here we are give us your stuff God God Thanks you for your donation. It's like would you pit.
18:34.57	mikebledsoe	For the greater. Good. Yeah yeah, now now it's the greater good by the grace of science. You know it's the same thing. Yeah, yeah, and so.
18:49.73	Max Shank	Ah, Mercenaries against Missionaries That's the one I think of the the missionaries will be biting the heads off biting the faces off of the mercenaries to sacrifice to the blood god.
18:53.91	mikebledsoe	Ah.
19:04.83	Max Shank	All the mercenaries are high-tailing it out of there because the pay is just not good enough.
19:10.47	mikebledsoe	Ah, yeah, so you you're talking about. Yeah these people are bought in and I think that a lot of people like if you look at the media. For instance I Think most of these quote unquote journalists are are completely bought in that.
19:11.52	Max Shank	So you get these true believers. Any price.
19:28.41	mikebledsoe	What they're doing is for the greater good I saw a clip was I saw a clip of ah you know everyone's art pissed off about not everyone just just people on the left are pissed off about Elon Musk offering to buy Twitter did you hear about this. Are you following it all.
19:28.74	Max Shank	Absolutely.
19:37.50	Max Shank	Ah.
19:43.67	Max Shank	Um, I'm actually still really upset about the George Floyd thing I haven't moved on since that 1 news point I haven't really made up my mind about it yet. So I can't move on to the any new any news points.
19:54.13	mikebledsoe	Oh you're stuck here have you watched any Tv since then. Okay, so so Elon Musk ah he purchases 9% of Twitter you know it's a public.
20:00.62	Max Shank	No no I'm just still trying to work out this mystery.
20:09.15	Max Shank	I did hear about it by the way I was just making a joke then he offers to buy the whole thing.
20:12.93	mikebledsoe	Okay, well fill people in he he purchases 9% of Twitter and well then and then ah you know if he owns 15 % 15% he can you know actually make some demands like he his voice must be hurt. So they offer him a board position like oh why don't you join the board and if you're on the board you can make suggestions but you can't make demands and but you can't own more than fifteen fourteen point nine five of the stocks and you go and he goes.
20:44.13	Max Shank	Right? As a board member.
20:49.13	mikebledsoe	I don't want to be a board member then and then he turns around offers $43000000000 for the entire company which is more than the value of the company that no one else is gonna purchase it for that amount and.
20:52.74	Max Shank	Incredible.
20:58.77	Max Shank	It it. It has to be Ah, it's really interesting situation because he um rightly understands that that is the the lead horse. On the winner take all of small instant public messages.
21:15.62	mikebledsoe	Yes, yeah, it's it's the it's you know I on I'm on. Yeah um.
21:20.42	Max Shank	They banned the president they they took they took free speech away from the president. That's supposed to be everybody gets free speech but because they became the platform. A new platform above the old platform of pen and paper and people talking to each other. They put a blanket of this new platform over everything and they're like this is where we talk now this is where the point gets across really quickly. Ah, it's not that different than.
21:47.13	mikebledsoe	Yeah.
21:55.80	Max Shank	These guys trying to buy newspapers. It's just a similar play to control the flow of information. It's basic. It's basic war out there and that's nature. Yeah conflict baby.
22:03.91	mikebledsoe	Yeah, oh it's definitely war. Yeah so ah, people a lot of people I was reading something this morning. It's pretty interesting is like it's like you know, yeah, a lot of people. There's primarily the left for. The political left people were saying they were they were defending Twitter as a private privately owned company that can do whatever it wants so censorship is okay, Elon Musk wants to buy it then they start freaking out that he's going to let everyone say whatever they want and.
22:29.73	Max Shank	Big.
22:39.41	mikebledsoe	That something that the government needs to step in and do something about Elon Musk buying Twitter it's like they want their cake and eat it too. They can't there's there's ah there's a foundational lack of fund of of a principle because it's it's whatever, whatever serves their.
22:41.18	Max Shank	The.
22:52.21	Max Shank	Um, it's pure Lizard man. Yeah.
22:59.28	mikebledsoe	Whatever they want in the moment they'll leverage. Whatever it takes to get there. The means justify the ends and.
23:03.21	Max Shank	Their identity is the tribe So whatever helps the tribe justifies the means basically it doesn't matter what it is as long as it's for the good of our tribe and we're good and those other guys way over there. They're bad. So if you censor the bad guys.
23:09.72	mikebledsoe	Yeah, yeah.
23:22.48	Max Shank	It's good. But if you censor nobody. It's bad by that very twisted logic.
23:24.17	mikebledsoe	Yeah, because yeah, very interesting. Yeah, so for the greater good. Um, you know I I do find it interesting that ah people really I mean I believe in Elon must having. Good intentions over somebody in government because he is actually contributing to society by his his behavior instead of just trying to take and redistribute. Um, so yeah, same.
23:44.10	Max Shank	Yeah.
23:53.00	Max Shank	On principle I like pie Makers more than pie slicers. Yeah, what do you? What do you bring into the table I think it's ah the difference between offers and orders. That's where the line is.
24:01.52	mikebledsoe	So How how did I. A a.
24:11.13	Max Shank	Line between an offer and an order where an order means do this or you are going to be punished with the stick or a fine or whatever and an offer is do this come on. You know you want to do this, do it. It'll be really good for you and.
24:25.53	mikebledsoe	Yeah, yeah.
24:28.80	Max Shank	You can get as persuasive as you want to get but there's no, there's no threat of direct violence or attack on your person with an offer. That's why I like that.
24:38.31	mikebledsoe	Yeah I saw this mean this morning I reposted on my Instagram it's got ah it's got 4 different things and it says what makes sex not rape consent choice consent.
24:49.12	Max Shank	Choice. Yeah yeah.
24:55.77	mikebledsoe	What makes a job not slavery consent. What makes a transaction not robbery consent. What makes taxation not theft magical fairy dust.
24:58.57	Max Shank	Um, yeah.
25:04.20	Max Shank	Um, yep.
25:11.94	Max Shank	Ah, and I knew we were going there.
25:15.31	mikebledsoe	Well today's tax day. So ah I always kept I have to post so taxing every every what's the eighteenth. But ah, ah, they made today the tax day since Friday was the fifteenth.
25:17.71	Max Shank	Yeah, well people just think that they're so clever.
25:28.57	Max Shank	It takes a special kind of person to think that they know best not only for themselves. But for everybody else and it takes an even more special kind of person to be unwilling to try to sell people on the idea that they have and instead force it upon them violently.
25:45.52	mikebledsoe	For your own good. You're greater. Well I think I think it it's It's a slippery. It's slippery because people I think that's a much easier argument to make is if I say Max I Know what's good for you.
25:46.50	Max Shank	But it's like it's like you don't believe in the product man.
26:04.55	mikebledsoe	That's very arguable. It's like I don't know if you know my entire situation. You don't you know you don't know about this.
26:07.40	Max Shank	Yeah, there are definitely situations where you might know better for me than me, no question. It's just we won't know when that is we just won't know when that is.
26:14.67	mikebledsoe	Yeah, some situations? Yeah, but but then what's good for the greater good is an extrapolation of that that I know what's good for you and then it becomes homogenized too. It's like. I know it's good for most of the people. So we're gonna do this and it's like yeah, it's 1 per 1 person has you know people give 1 person that power and it's it's really insane.
26:47.67	Max Shank	It's exactly about that control because the whole purpose of groups in the first place is chaos reduction or at least reducing the negative impact of chaos on the collective. So whether it's ah, a group of ah chimps or a nation state of some kind the the concept or the idea of it in the first place is to reduce the chaos. So homogenization is the logical. Ah. Endpoint of that where everybody's exactly the same. Ah totally fungible, interchangeable. We have. We have one billion we have 1000000000 persons they do this and this and this and they do this at this time and this at this time and this at this time.
27:32.36	mikebledsoe	You're just a number folks.
27:41.15	Max Shank	And we always know where exactly everybody is just like ah a dairy farm with a bunch of chipped animals. So.
27:45.10	mikebledsoe	Yeah, yeah, and I think up until this point the Homogenation um Homogenation homogenization. Thank you? Ah, it has been the most efficient way of creating order out of chaos or disorder.
27:54.21	Max Shank	Homogenization.
28:01.56	Max Shank	By definition. It is by definition. Yeah.
28:04.78	mikebledsoe	Yeah, um, but then if if we look at the Homogen is it is a nation you have to tell me this work ah of chickens right? They've got ah I learned about this this past week and I was talking to some farmers and that's what I do.
28:11.25	Max Shank	Um, homogenization. Yeah. Course you are on ah on the weekend to just me and some farmers hanging out.
28:21.89	mikebledsoe	That's what I do at festivals I Hang out with farmers chicken out chicken it eating some of the meat Egg Grew Um, and you know they were talking about the the common chicken you find at the Gar Grot grocery store is the.
28:35.23	Max Shank	A.
28:38.64	mikebledsoe	The meat has gotten to the point where you're not actually digesting and getting the protein out of like a typical chicken breast and yeah, so there's they've they basically bread for this one particular chicken that can barely even walk right? because the chickens are bred for.
28:44.00	Max Shank	What.
28:54.31	Max Shank	But yeah, um.
28:57.91	mikebledsoe	Weight and I don't I'd learned this to they now are getting these chickens up to full weight for slaughter and 6 to eight weeks after they hatch so now. Basically these chickens you know.
29:08.50	Max Shank	Wow.
29:14.99	mikebledsoe	They stand up real well against feeding them soy and corn. They they get fat. Really they put on weight really fast but the meat is of really low quality and ah and.
29:18.89	Max Shank	Ah.
29:26.51	Max Shank	Like the Amino acid profile or something you mean.
29:30.76	mikebledsoe	Yeah I know if it's they it was something about how the meat grows it almost turns into fiber versus protein like it should be protein but it's like a protein.
29:37.30	Max Shank	Okay, that's that's weird. They're changing protein to a carb somehow.
29:42.48	mikebledsoe	No, it's not a car but they're saying like it's it's it's not digestible. It's too fibrous like that. Yeah, the meat is too fibrous. So and the other thing is there are 2 I'm sure someone can let me know they they may know more details about this.
29:49.28	Max Shank	Indigestible protein weird.
30:03.12	mikebledsoe	They're down to like 2 types of chicken that are being grown so you get 1 type of aviary flu comes in and just wipes them all out now we're out of chicken. So like you know them being single pain of.
30:15.78	Max Shank	It goes back to the single point of failure thing we were talking about last week
30:21.16	mikebledsoe	So if you homogenize too much. It only takes one disaster and then and then you and then it's ultimate chaos which is you know devastation? Yeah that that could but unless I mean and.
30:25.50	Max Shank	Yeah, unless there's redundancy built into that central system right? but but it's like diversification right? The more you diversify the more um cushion you have.
30:40.28	mikebledsoe	But it's not good.
30:44.77	Max Shank	But the less of ah the less you diversify the further you can go in a single direction back to the comparative advantage example.
30:48.71	mikebledsoe	Yeah, absolutely yeah, so just it seems like to Mobgenize is is a good thing but there's also potential downfalls and so I mean we we already talked about decentralization versus centralization and and how things are moving and how.
31:02.22	Max Shank	Yeah.
31:08.39	mikebledsoe	Things in the future may not need to be so homogenized in order for to create order. We're talking about order and yeah through more complex technology I think I think we need less of that.
31:22.90	Max Shank	Well, when it comes to decision making having ah rules of the game is really important if you want to make a decision in a sport or a game of some kind the rules need to be consistent and they need to be understood by everybody. For the game to work So That's part of what makes conversation so challenging for people who have been raised any time in the current Era. There's a lot of contention and there's not a lot of collaboration. There's not a lot of ability to have an expansive and collaborative argument rather than a combative argument. You know you and I argue the validity of different points looking for a truth. Or a better representative of the truth rather than having a combative argument where I'm trying to prove that a is right? and you're trying to prove prove that B is right and we already talked about how people will go to any means necessary to support their point. Even wishing the censorship or possibly murder of other people if they don't believe the the truth the same truth that they believe so being able to have the rules of the game. The rules of discourse the rules of. The locale clear and simple enough to be understood and effectively used by all is a prerequisite for us to be able to play the game. Ah consistently and joyfully.
33:06.50	mikebledsoe	Yeah, well I think there's there's 1 thing we agree on that allows for differing opinions to come in and we're able to work through it that is we we don't we're not confused about what's right? And what's wrong like we we have an agreement on that.
33:22.90	Max Shank	Well oh no I think they're I.
33:26.35	mikebledsoe	And so because you were saying your time Out. You know I think there's the right way to do or the wrong way. But I I think that we both agree that something that is right is something that doesn't impede on somebody else's life or Liberty and if any anything that isn't. Trampling on somebody else's ability to live their life and the way they wish is totally right? That's right and anything that is trampling on someone else's life and Liberty is wrong and so everything else? Well, That's that's trampling over someone's life and Liberty but that's wrong.
33:49.25	Max Shank	Right.
33:54.89	Max Shank	Um, unless they murder 10 people right? right? right.
34:04.11	mikebledsoe	So so I think that we you and I both have a pretty clear understanding about what is right and wrong and anything that's not wrong is right? and so the ah and not only is it right? but it is a right right? I Think that's where rights come from.
34:19.86	Max Shank	Right? right.
34:23.85	mikebledsoe	So if I'm not doing something wrong. That means I'm not stealing from you I'm not taking your property I'm not enslaving you and I'm not killing you then anything I do outside of that is a right and we both understand that that's where we have agreement and I think because of that.
34:30.73	Max Shank	Yeah. True.
34:42.44	mikebledsoe	We understand that everything outside of that is an opinion and I think a lot of people they confuse the morality of right and wrong with their opinions and I think you and I have both been able to be.
34:53.48	Max Shank	Oh.
35:00.66	mikebledsoe	Clearly have that in our mind that yeah this is what I'm holding right now isn't about right and wrong. It's just about it's an opinion or if it is right or wrong then it's ah, there's a very solid foundation in which that conversation is existing on so it's very easy to work through.
35:08.80	Max Shank	Ah.
35:16.90	Max Shank	The question is really do the ends justify the means is it is the juice worth the squeeze is the benefit greater than the cost and that's where it gets way harder to tell because you you could make a wrong choice. Ah, for yourself and not know that you're making it and I think that happens all the time so we need to find a way to harmonize the instinct and the intellect because I know I'd come back to this a lot. But. Usually when people are angry or sad or over emotional. It's It's some version of afraid and they're in that lizard Brain Mode. So they might react instinctively they might. Yell or fight or run or cry or something like that when they feel afraid but only because they're in Lizard Mode. So I think a lot of folks don't even give themselves a chance myself included at times in the past I I Remember. Aftermath of making choices that way but in the moment you're like somewhat unaware of the fact that you're making these choices that in normal Circumstances. You would intellectually know this is probably not going to give me a better result.
36:48.54	mikebledsoe	Yeah.
36:51.10	Max Shank	So finding a way to harmonize the intellect and the instinct and use the intellect to channel the instinctive drives rather than sporadic explosions of instinct.
37:05.84	mikebledsoe	Yeah, the I like the idea of channeling instinct because that when I think about Instinct I Think about um Instinct is something that you can't actually put words to. Because it's It's something that wells up inside of your body. It's preverbal these are and we look at animals they're operating we say they're operating on Instinct because there is no language for you know and that's not necessarily always True. We can listen to these wells and dolphins and.
37:25.60	Max Shank	Oh.
37:39.50	Max Shank	It's like programmed desire basically because Hunger is a form of desire sex is a form of desire safety is a form of desire. So there's you know pain is a synonym for all those things but there's a genetic pre-programmed in all of us.
37:40.99	mikebledsoe	Yeah.
37:56.92	Max Shank	Common ground where there's no question about the origin of these things This is something that is shared by pretty much all living creatures and so how do you take that Raw instinct and.
38:05.70	mikebledsoe	Um.
38:14.65	Max Shank	Channel it with greater precision into a place that you want being able to project further into the future can be really a frightening experience for people I think.
38:24.88	mikebledsoe	Well yeah, so so the instinct instinct coming from the body from you know the the brain stem essentially not coming from the prefrontal cortex where the intellectual mind lives and where language is formed.
38:41.51	Max Shank	My instinct is in my root Chakra Mine's way lower.
38:43.19	mikebledsoe	Is the moment. It's way lower. Yeah and we'll say from your your throat shock or down is it will is that instinct. Yeah yeah.
38:54.24	Max Shank	His instinct Huh That's a good way to put it.
39:01.11	mikebledsoe	Once you you get the intellect in your third eye. So that's that's that's actually I haven't used those words to describe it when I think about all the energy that exists below My third eye is there you if you try to put language to it. You're gonna fail. So the.
39:01.92	Max Shank	Yeah.
39:20.55	mikebledsoe	The the mind the intellect must translate the instinct. So the instinct is to do this or that but the mind is what tells the body that there is time there was a yesterday and there's a tomorrow. And there's a separation between Mike and max. It's the mind that yeah, it's the mind that creates this so now what you have the instinct is is so primal and without words you know we're just animals and so when we when these.
39:39.92	Max Shank	The scorekeeper.
39:53.22	Max Shank	Yeah.
39:57.42	mikebledsoe	Words come online and we have these incredibly strong instincts. This energy is flowing and if we don't know how to use our words if our if our vocabulary is limited.
40:03.71	Max Shank	Oh.
40:12.50	mikebledsoe	If We have no practice in changing how we think by changing the language in which we think in and not mean English versus Spanish I'm saying using expanding the vocabulary using different words understanding. Actually what you're saying and do you understand. And all the words that you you use yourself most people I think are running around using words that they're confused about and because they're confused about it. They're confusing people around them. So There's a whole culture of people who don't really know what they're talking about. And I think that's the majority of Americans in the least. Um I Do it too. So.
40:51.44	Max Shank	I Do it all the time I would say unless I'm very specific and deliberate and I want to make a very distinct point I let the conversation flow. Normally and I use all kinds of words and metaphors where I don't have a crystal clear definition of what I'm saying like with the word ignorant I had never thought about ignorant as being an active ignore ignoring I always thought about it as just a ah passive not knowing. And that's monumentally different.
41:31.74	mikebledsoe	Yeah, yeah, and the the take this further is the the mind is having to translate to the body to the to the instinct and even train the instinct to a bit because. The Instinct wants Instant gratification. It wants what it wants right now and the mind has to step in and go whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa If We get what we want right now we won't have We won't be able to have it tomorrow and we won't be able to have it.
41:51.87	Max Shank	Ah, right.
42:05.84	Max Shank	Right? So it's like putting a leash. It's like putting a leash on the instinct and the shorter and shorter the leash the less it's running wild but sometimes it can be pretty fun to let your instincts run wild. Especially if you can.
42:10.44	mikebledsoe	You got it? True Yeah, totally to.
42:22.56	Max Shank	Really turn it off because I think that is equal and opposite damaging to have your entire life tightly controlled by your intellect and you'll feel like the weight of the future is unrelenting.
42:32.30	mikebledsoe	Absolutely.
42:39.50	mikebledsoe	Absolutely yeah and I think there are ah really healthy ways of letting that Instinct run wild. There's you can create containers for that. Um I've had the experience of just going full animal. Ah.
42:51.10	Max Shank	O.
42:58.17	mikebledsoe	Down in Columbia on this really big piece of property where I drink a little bit of yaha which is this incredibly powerful Psychedelic medicine and then I basically stripped down Buckna and run around the Sat sun roaring in the and the jungle like that's about. But.
43:15.88	Max Shank	Everybody else got a clear picture of that I Sure do.
43:16.61	mikebledsoe	I Also know that I'm supposed to say yeah.
43:21.59	mikebledsoe	Um, so that so the ah so there was a clear boundary I knew that I was not supposed to leave the property but within that you know I was.
43:34.28	Max Shank	M.
43:39.42	mikebledsoe	Able to completely let loose and you know turn into a Jaguar and do all that shit. So ah I've had to that's like my peak instinct tapping into instinct experience that I've had and then reintegrating that's interesting. But it's the integration back into the mind and the mind now has to translate what the instinct is asking for into language which is an incredibly difficult task and so my opinion is.
44:12.42	Max Shank	M.
44:15.90	mikebledsoe	You would. You'll never be able to perfectly articulate to yourself or to somebody else the experience of Instinct and by yeah, but you can get more accurate over time.
44:26.92	Max Shank	It's like trying to walk a mile in someone else's shoes you you can't do it.
44:34.45	mikebledsoe	You can expand your vocabulary. You can have a longer conversation with someone you can get somebody closer to it and you can get yourself closer to it but to get to the absolute truth of what it is. It's not possible. But I think it's a worthy task to to do as good as as possible at doing that. And so because you're in my instincts are probably very much the same I mean instincts amongst species of animals are very Similar. We know that dogs do these dog things and it's out of Instinct Dear do these deer things out of Instinct fish so on and so forth. But what makes us different. I Think why why humans are live such diverse lifestyles and there's such diverse. Um expressions of the instinct is because it's each person is interpreting their instinct through this this mind and. The mind is you know trying to control the the instinct and direct it and all this stuff. Um, so.
45:37.62	Max Shank	The prediction protection machine comes in a lot of different ah models right? Still your parents teachers peers media culture. Whatever are like okay here's your intellectual filter and then you go from being this.
45:42.38	mikebledsoe	Exactly yeah.
45:55.94	Max Shank	Little creature that doesn't have any language at all that just grabs stuff and puts things in its mouth and you know rolls around and now suddenly you're talking and you're saying this is good and this is bad and so now your third eye is the scorekeeper and the rule maker. Based on whatever you've been taught.
46:16.37	mikebledsoe	yeah yeah yeah I don't know if that's a I know I said third eye don't know if it's the exact or your third eye is ah to me is is when all the energy comes into a single point and then you can direct you can direct your attention. So I don't see a third eye as a thinker.
46:28.87	Max Shank	Um, um, ah that's that's a little different. Ok so you're so your intellect your intellect then.
46:36.32	mikebledsoe	Yeah, it's a little different. Yeah, but you got us around a shak room. So I was trying to make sense of it but I wanted to correct that for myself. Yeah, which is I think that's different so but I think that's that's 1 thing that that I think that separates.
46:46.80	Max Shank	Yeah, it's interesting to think about projection.
46:54.91	mikebledsoe	People from one another is. It's that intellectual mind because I can never explain you my experience then then I know that max will never understand me completely and I can tell you a story.
46:58.30	Max Shank	M.
47:06.81	Max Shank	Yeah, you can tell me a story though and the better the better you are at communicating that story and the better I am at clarifying. Ah my interpretation with questions. The.
47:24.21	mikebledsoe	Yeah, yeah.
47:24.22	Max Shank	Clearer The communication will be and it's the same thing for the stories that we tell ourselves not just other people right? Um, it's so easy to have different milestones.
47:32.40	mikebledsoe	Yeah.
47:42.12	Max Shank	In your story that are told in a way that makes you into a victor or a victim for example and I know it's not always binary. But I think everybody listening including you and I has. Recognized people who at every point in their life was a tragedy the way they retell the story at least and you've heard other people in life where everything was a victory. It was ah it was always coming up jackpot for this person and then you're with them and you're like this doesn't.
48:06.39	mikebledsoe	Hey.
48:19.75	Max Shank	Actually seem like the same story I was being told and so it's very interesting and I wonder how genetic predisposition is like that um like being gay is genetic right? no.
48:21.67	mikebledsoe	Yeah.
48:37.95	mikebledsoe	I I think it's I think genetic? What? ah.
48:39.42	Max Shank	Yeah, you oh god here we go Mike Mike Bled so thinks being gay as a choice send your hate mail to Mike Underscore Blesco Aty at Instagram.
48:54.37	mikebledsoe	Um, ah.
48:55.71	Max Shank	I Hope you're ready for your inbox to be destroyed you hateful Homophobic bastard.
49:03.25	mikebledsoe	Ah, oh man.
49:05.53	Max Shank	Ah, you are practically a nazi you're practically hitler I can't believe you said that I'm so sorry for Mike everybody ah dear god.
49:18.93	mikebledsoe	Oh man, you know I I don't know Well we talk about this before the show is like the semantics matter because because we've talked about this before the the.
49:21.11	Max Shank	Ah, so let's so.
49:29.56	Max Shank	Um, what is and what isn't what is and what isn't.
49:37.58	mikebledsoe	I was listening to a story from somebody the other day that said you know that our the Dna sequence of a human and the sea creature is more alike than you know a human in ah in a chimpanzee and that immediately clued me into everyone's mind went to like oh my god. We're more like sea creatures than we thought and my mind immediately goes to. We're studying the wrong shit like these scientists are they they've missed the boat on something because they're really focused on this Dna thing when obviously that's not what's causing the expression of of ah of our reality.
50:14.65	Max Shank	Like child soldier spelling Gee champion. Yeah.
50:15.40	mikebledsoe	And so you know that's why I pause with the genetics and there's there's way more variables contributing to how a person is being than genetics or training or you know the the nature versus nurture is like ah a very It's a very cool topic to. Talk about, but it's nature and nurture are the same thing and the end of the day.
50:38.19	Max Shank	Good God I've never heard anything so hateful before.
50:49.28	Max Shank	Um, it's interesting to think and let's just take because it's ah like gayness is a funny topic to me. Ah, and for the record. Ah most people I don't like. And whether they're gay or straight has nothing to do with it. But let's suppose that gayness has some element of genetics and some element of Nurture. So some nature and some nurture does that mean that there is a chance that like you and I were like. 3 uncomfortable locker room situations away from turning gay that's pretty interesting right? Or for the food thing like you have a predisposition to um, fearful mindset.
51:30.50	mikebledsoe	Yeah, yeah, I've um.
51:44.98	Max Shank	And you have a predisposition to rapid weight gain. But then you layer on some trauma on top of it and boom you have food is the medicine.
51:52.50	mikebledsoe	Yeah, yeah, um, yeah I'd be curious to see stats on you know, ah when it comes to homosexuality like people who identify really heavily based on sexual preference. I Think anyone who identifies heavily on sexual preference alone or identifies heavily based on a preference of any kind. Not even sexual is very.. It's a very dangerous place to put yourself because now you get into.
52:12.99	Max Shank	Right.
52:18.27	Max Shank	Right.
52:27.59	mikebledsoe	You become very easy to control through political means. So yeah.
52:30.87	Max Shank	It goes back to our talk about the tribe right? If it's for the greater good of the tribe we'll fuck over anybody.
52:37.72	mikebledsoe	Yeah, so you end up with really? ah you know you end up, you know if if you if you identify as being a part of this group or as being this thing. Then you got to vote this Way. You got to behave this Way. You can't hang out with this people. You got to hate this person or that you have to hate this other group and so I get I think that just anything that that starts creating identity becomes very dangerous which people who do identify heavily with a group get very angry.
53:07.97	Max Shank	I got.
53:14.60	mikebledsoe	When I say these types of things I gotta watch myself but I know that I'm safe here on on the Monday morning show and probably not. Ah.
53:20.20	Max Shank	I Don't know after all that bigotry earlier I don't think there's a chance I got a little jingle to help us remember this um and a Noun is easily taken down but you cannot disturb a verb.
53:27.80	mikebledsoe	Okay.
53:37.00	mikebledsoe	Ah, ah.
53:38.48	Max Shank	So That's that's what I think about um, you know you become the task your your ego is irrelevant the whole the whole magic is in knowing that the here and now is all there is and when you're. Planning You got to think of that like a hunt where you're like really focusing your attention and you're you're actively doing something but you're not also consumed with some identity that is fraught with all kinds of. Inconsistencies and crying egos desire to be loved in a very specific Way. So It's much better to become the action and you'll be better off doing actions that make you feel in Tune or in Harmony with the Universe. Which is your perspective and relationship with your surroundings. Um then trying to be trying to like be happy like you're not going to get Happiness. You can be in a flow State. You can be in peace and presence in the present moment. But if you're. If you're stuck in Noun based identities rather than becoming the task and doing it's going to be really hard.
54:59.97	mikebledsoe	Yeah I like the Noun versus the verb conversation overall because if you think about I've had this conversation when I was working with and lifted which is you are a verb if you consider yourself to be a Noun then you're. A Noun is static. It doesn't Move. It's It's not very fluid. It just is and it makes it very hard to progress when you identify as a Noun, but if you if your identity is a verb then a verb is doing. It is Moving. It is progressing. There is. It's always changing which is way more in line with reality because the universe is moving in a very fluid nature. There's very few solid things and.
55:45.46	Max Shank	O.
55:55.79	mikebledsoe	There's some solid principles in which everything is is revolving around for sure but going back to the the gay conversation is in my life I've experienced sexually a very.. There's been times where I was very narrow in my preferences and there's been times where my my preferences expanded tremendously and then I've made adjustments now the band of my preferences is probably not as big as a lot of other people's um. And but I don't necessarily like I I found what I like and but I don't like and I don't necessarily think that that yeah had I identified as just a straight man 100% I'll never Touched another guy in any way I wouldn't have gotten to where I am now and which is very um, um, I'm much more happier and I know that I've experienced all these things and I know what I like and what I don't like and and that's okay, but I think most people. Even people who well maybe even especially people who identify as straight and they'll never try anything and they identify with that Noun you know they may be they may be missing out on some some interactions even with. Say you're a guy you may be missing out on some interactions with women in some interesting situations If you're terrified to see another man naked in a sexual environment.
57:33.38	Max Shank	Wow! So you're saying that gayness is a choice and you would not be the man you are today without doing some slightly gay things.
57:42.46	mikebledsoe	Um, Ah what I'm saying is ah I have I have watched my own mind change enough and without intention and with intention ah to to realize that. I I could tiptoe right into just about anything if I I public up. Um my mind to it. So Someone's intentional. So It's not intentional, but you know I think it's I think people just do whatever the fuck they want at the end of the day. Yeah.
58:16.54	Max Shank	That's great. So ah, that's really what it comes down to it comes down to consent I think the verb Noun thing is great way to ah clarify.
58:19.57	mikebledsoe	As long as you've got consent I don't give a fuck.
58:34.49	Max Shank	The the breaking the back of the ego that is required to make the best decisions possible and take the verb running or to run versus I'm a runner so I am running versus I am a runner.
58:39.59	mikebledsoe	And.
58:50.96	mikebledsoe	Here.
58:53.67	Max Shank	And granted, if you identify strongly with an activity. You will probably be better at it and if you strongly identify with that action and then that action goes Away. You will feel a great loss. Also.
59:12.50	mikebledsoe	Yeah, or if you're not the best at it. It may that that also creates a situation of comparative analysis. It's like oh I'm I'm a runner so is max. Oh he's better at it than me like he can run faster further.
59:20.94	Max Shank	Competitiveness Yeah, right, It's true faster further easier. It means you're worse means you're worse than me at at running.
59:29.34	mikebledsoe	You know what's that mean about me. Yeah, what's that mean about me I'm I'm not as I'm not ah I'm not worthy. Yeah, so the.
59:37.89	Max Shank	Ah, oh man sounds so sad. Even even joking about it. But that's the inner monologue that most of us have for such a variety of reasons.
59:43.39	mikebledsoe	Totally that does and this one I'm a big fan of this conversation because ah there are so many things people are dealing with say being unhealthily competitive. And they're just trying to be less competitive when when we could be looking at something that's a much deeper conversation which is are you are you stuck in a noun-based identity or are you or are you moving with a verb based identity and if your identity is more fluid because ah being. Ah, associating more with being a verb creates identity fluidity which is which is which means that I can show up the best version of myself in every situation. No matter what because I'm not not over identifying with any 1 thing. You know when I'm in my office and I'm talking to you I'm a podcaster or I'm podcasting but when I leave here and I go hang on my girlfriend. You know I'm ah a romantic partner and all these things I think that there was a period of time where I started saying. Oh I'm like these 20 different identities. All these things that I do make up who I am and then one day I go this is just ridiculous. Why don't I just be like like just be completely fluid with the identity and I'll do what's.
01:01:02.73	Max Shank	Then.
01:01:15.31	mikebledsoe	Necessary for me the way the situation is demanding and me thinking about what label I want to put on myself so that I can try to seek some type of external validation. So I can feel good enough. That's just ridiculous.
01:01:27.46	Max Shank	And yet and yet that's what we mostly do I think entrepreneur is a very fluid identity in general because people are by definition willing to try a lot of different pursuits so you will attract that sort of personality.
01:01:39.25	mikebledsoe	It's broad.
01:01:46.27	Max Shank	Into entrepreneurship that is much more fluid.
01:01:48.21	mikebledsoe	No yeah, yeah, being on being an entrepreneur means so many things and such a broad term and I do I do like that when it it makes it easy to explain what I do I Tell you you know like I'm an entrepreneur a podcast coach. Whatever That's just me.
01:01:55.84	Max Shank	Yeah. Right? But then but then nobody knows if you're good right away? Yeah, right.
01:02:08.20	mikebledsoe	Just me relaying you know to other people so they they know how to talk to me. That's the other thing is I tell people when they ask me what I do or who I am I Um I don't tell the same and I don't tell different people the same thing if um, if I'm hanging out with a bunch of coaches I tell them you know I'm a coach.
01:02:16.94	Max Shank	Yeah. Ah.
01:02:27.35	mikebledsoe	Coming out somewhere most of the time I pull out the more recently and I've decided to start pulling out the podcaster card more because no matter who they are. They may want to come listen if I tell them that I coach coaches if they're not a coach. They don't give a fuck.
01:02:35.32	Max Shank	Ah.
01:02:43.36	Max Shank	Um, maybe I'll start doing that I mean I don't know if that's I guess technically true I've done enough to be considered a podcaster. But if you're.
01:02:46.92	mikebledsoe	So yeah.
01:02:52.38	mikebledsoe	Well also if you tell people you're a coach then they start bringing their problems to you and the same thing happens with Ashley he's like oh you're a therapist you know I've been I've been dealing. It's like I get the fuck away from me. Ah.
01:03:02.37	Max Shank	Right? Very compassionate of you. Ah, no totally. It's about setting those boundaries but I think what's cool about saying I'm a podcaster is you are in a very subtle way saying my words are important my words are.
01:03:17.96	mikebledsoe	Oh really? Ah yeah, but anyone's got a podcast these days I feel to me being a podcaster's not a big deal deal at all because there's it's almost no barrier to entry.
01:03:21.37	Max Shank	My words are important. Yeah, of course it says that yeah I have a I have a radio show My my words are important. It's It's really interesting. It's not. It's not cool. No.
01:03:37.26	mikebledsoe	All you need is a phone and and a 10 Joe Regan yeah yeah well of course. Well it's there's going back to podcasting is decentralized media. You know.
01:03:40.32	Max Shank	But who has the biggest audience in the world people listening to podcaster. Yeah, that's wild.
01:03:54.81	Max Shank	Ah.
01:03:55.91	mikebledsoe	He's got the biggest audience in the world for sure. But then there's 4000000 shows that are you know, almost no one listens to to those but but you can do it and anyone can do it in the period entry is super low.
01:04:02.66	Max Shank	Nobody listens to yeah yeah. Which is pretty cool.
01:04:14.40	mikebledsoe	And that's going to keep happening in every industry every industry that the barrier to entry is going to just keep getting lower and lower and lower unless the government layers on regulation then the barrier to entry gets high which is what they're trying. That's why Facebook and Twitter ah tried to. They've been very.
01:04:24.70	Max Shank	Um.
01:04:33.50	mikebledsoe	Um, encouraging of government regulations and people go oh there like it's a noble thing that Facebook wants there to be regulation where they're the only motherfuckers that can afford the lawyers to wait through the bureaucracy they're there. They're squeezing out their competition every time there's a new regulation like Facebook wants it.
01:04:49.19	Max Shank	Well, that's how lobbying works. Yeah paide. No it shows it shows the power of communication though I mean.
01:04:52.74	mikebledsoe	Yeah, yeah I don't think we actually got to what we were originally talking to. But I think it's okay I'm I'm enjoying the content.
01:05:06.46	Max Shank	Refer to lawyers as word Warriors and they can they can manipulate they can manipulate look if you're a good lawyer. You can manipulate almost any situation to sound totally different than what physically happened.
01:05:07.86	mikebledsoe	I Love it. It's true.
01:05:22.63	mikebledsoe	Totally.
01:05:25.26	Max Shank	And it's storytelling. It comes it all comes full circle in the beginning. There was the word and whatever I say that's what's true and the more confident you are about that like what I say is good and what they say is bad. A lot of people just are wanting to believe that because also there are going to be more people who want to follow than people who want to lead So you're going to naturally have these groups right? It's like ah. Some people want to be whipped and some people want to do the whipping and I don't know what the percentage is on that and my guess that it varies significantly by Gender. Ah so it's very I Just mean in general.
01:06:03.84	mikebledsoe	And.
01:06:15.37	mikebledsoe	To I like bdsm situations.
01:06:21.73	Max Shank	Like yes also in that sort of a situation. Oh I was going to say ladies but are you going to have a different answer. They're more receiving and attractive.
01:06:22.75	mikebledsoe	Which gender. Do you think likes be whipmore.
01:06:31.89	mikebledsoe	I Find that the more dominant and day to day day to day.
01:06:40.68	Max Shank	That's what I mean so you oh I see what you're saying so they're ah they want to assume a different role to decompress from being an a tractor of force rather than a transmitter of force.
01:06:49.84	mikebledsoe	Yes, yeah, it can feel very powerful in a different way. So like a lot of times you create a container where there's ah where you can play a new role and.
01:06:57.64	Max Shank	Interesting.
01:07:05.30	Max Shank	Ah.
01:07:07.75	mikebledsoe	And maybe someone who's normally on the more of a receiver gets to be someone who's delivering and it's ah it's a really fun experience and the same with Richard Branson is one of these. He's got a couple dominrix with them most of the time.
01:07:12.98	Max Shank	Right.
01:07:22.66	Max Shank	Loves to get whipped. Seriously, he's got a few dominatrixes with him all the time you heard it here first.
01:07:24.56	mikebledsoe	And he's a very powerful guy. He's the one giving orders all day. Yeah, still about all the time that that that's ah, maybe an over generalization. But ah my my my friends who have spent time with him have said that they're present. Um, so.
01:07:39.70	Max Shank	Wow.
01:07:44.11	mikebledsoe	The and I don't know if that's public information but I'll give a fuck because Richard Richard Branson is you know he's old. So.
01:07:46.68	Max Shank	It is now. A Monday morning original you heard it here for breaking news folks.
01:07:57.51	mikebledsoe	I think I think the guy's really great in some respects but anyone who came out and wanted mandates or pushing are the people to get vaccinated Richard Branson comes out and gives me some fucking medical advice. He can shove up his ass. So totally.
01:08:11.38	Max Shank	He thought he was doing the right thing Mike he was doing it for your own good. He thought he was doing good and yeah, yeah.
01:08:17.13	mikebledsoe	totally totally there there's a handful of people I looked up to before this whole debacle Schwarzenegger is another one you ever hear that screw your freedom clip. Yeah, the guy that came here from Austria and became.
01:08:30.24	Max Shank	Yeah I get I get sent ah a few things like that. Yeah, it's it. Well, it's like ah don't don't worship false idols you know or or that phrase never meet your heroes because then they'll just disappoint The fuck out of you.
01:08:35.20	mikebledsoe	And experience wilder success.
01:08:40.51	mikebledsoe	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:08:49.67	Max Shank	I think ah Richard Branson is actually the perfect ah way to bring this back full circle because reading that guy's book ah almost gave me stomach ulcers.
01:08:56.77	mikebledsoe	Um.
01:09:05.31	mikebledsoe	E.
01:09:07.89	Max Shank	In terms of the way that he makes decisions because every chapter was a different variation of and then I bet it all on black and then I mortgaged the house and I bet it all on red and then I sold my music company to buy.
01:09:19.52	mikebledsoe	Right? right.
01:09:27.18	Max Shank	Ah, fucking jet engine and then I rolled the dice I mean this guy was just a fucking lucky animal just a lucky animal and all of the steps of the story were like. Bankrupt not bankrupt but up and down all around and look what is the result now. He's exactly where he is which some people would say is really good. We have no idea what that guy's life is like except for your hot tip on the. Ah, live in dominatrixes but that can work that that that could work that could work right? his his way of just being ah a bowl in a China Shop it seemed like.
01:10:03.12	mikebledsoe	I live in. Anyways, they're they're present. But yeah.
01:10:15.77	mikebledsoe	Why you know you only got to hit once or twice you only got it investing is not gambling because in gambling you're gonna you're gonna come in and start over the next day and investing.
01:10:16.45	Max Shank	On to the next thing on to the next thing onto the next thing on to the next thing It's true.
01:10:26.78	Max Shank	Um, kind of is m.
01:10:35.43	mikebledsoe	You hit once and you never have to work again. You may may win big at the casino. But you're you're gonna be back in the casino.
01:10:41.48	Max Shank	Um, interesting. Yeah I almost think of them as ah, just 2 versions of a similar thing because once you hit a jackpot on one business you're going to feel the itch to do another one probably.
01:10:49.80	mikebledsoe	Yeah.
01:10:55.37	mikebledsoe	Yeah, but you can if you're smart about it. You'll take a portion of it and diversify and things that are more stable. Yeah.
01:11:06.42	Max Shank	That's not the Branson way. That's what I like to do I like to take some of my money off the table because you know I don't want to give all the money back that I won I want to take some off. He just let it ride the whole time. How much money do I have.
01:11:14.27	mikebledsoe	Now now now. Are are how how would how would you like to wrap up this show. What's the how I don't know I just hear comment thread.
01:11:23.80	Max Shank	Bet it all bet it. It is impossible to wrap up this show I'm still thinking about all of the people who are going to send you angry messages that you said being gay. Is a choice that's incredible. Can we make that the title of the show being gay as a choice by Mike Blitz how um
01:11:42.89	mikebledsoe	Ah, you know what? I know how I I I Know how people's minds were go but I never said that go back and listen to the actual conversation. Ah, Max knows if he says it enough people will believe it repetition. Yeah, absolutely.
01:12:05.37	Max Shank	It's that's true with almost everything right now is it also true that you think it can be cured.
01:12:15.39	Max Shank	I Don't know if you provide a service or anything like that. Ah.
01:12:16.63	mikebledsoe	Ah, oh man I've ah I'm aware of some services like that I think it's a very interesting thing that exists in the world. So that's all of another show.
01:12:35.42	Max Shank	So how do we make good decisions Mike Vision values no that was how you start that was the very first sentence you said in the that was it the first sentence you said then.
01:12:35.49	mikebledsoe	That's all another show.
01:12:42.30	mikebledsoe	We we talk about vision values boundaries. That's how we started. Um, that's where I thought that's where I wanted to take it and then we got into a flow.
01:12:55.23	Max Shank	There was a little. There's a little sign marker at the very beginning sentence one and then we just took a hard u-turn in a completely different direction. We didn't I don't even remember what the third thing is now I knew was vision values in something else. Boundaries there you go maybe we'll do that next week.
01:13:08.61	mikebledsoe	Boundaries. Yeah, maybe next week we'll see we have to name the show though. So we have to come up with what the hell we talked about. Ah yeah, any any summaries since. I remember what we said.
01:13:22.35	Max Shank	I Think the concept of not getting hyper attached to an identity and a Noun ah like a fixed state versus a dynamic action and being a verb instead just trying to become the task. Really Good. We talked a little bit about communication I think that myself included we all talk too damn much and if you focus on doing things that are intrinsically enjoyable that you want to do just for the sake of doing. Then you are in the present moment and the ego is irrelevant. There. So then you aren't going to worry so much about you know how all these other ah stimuli affect you all these news stories and all this fear mongering because I think it's good to Remember. It's basically always been. Like this where a small group are trying to completely terrify a big group into falling in line.
01:14:29.60	mikebledsoe	Yeah, pretty much very accurate I like what you said I'm not going to I'm not going to add anything I think we had a good conversation. Ah, you can follow me on Instagram at Mike Underscore bloodso and keep paying attention to this channel I've got a lot more. Episodes posting of interviews that I am doing some other folks and max and I are going to continue to put Monday morning up every monday.
01:14:57.98	Max Shank	Sweet. You can find me at http://mashank.com or at mashank and I think there are a few spots available for the partner agility and strength system certification I believe that is June eleventh and there's a big discount if you sign up before the end of April so ah, that's it. Thanks Mike Love you man.
01:15:26.23	mikebledsoe	Excellent! Thanks Max! Love you.