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The Bledsoe Show

The show formerly known as "Bledsopia" On this podcast, you’ll learn from thought leaders who are dedicating their lives to being a positive force for your physical, psycho-emotional and spiritual health. Your host, Mike Bledsoe, seeker of truth & perpetual student, spotlights premier thought leaders in the fields of emotional & intellectual expansion, behavior change, sexuality & alternative medicine that empower you with the tools and inspiration to transform your mind, body, & spirit. Every week, this is your opportunity to get downloads from exceptional people that will guide you to the connections between your own source, to live your best life & enjoy the process.
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Jun 13, 2022

00:01.12

Max Shank

Here's the deal. So there's a perfect, no intro this we're just here now you're here we're here I'm here you're here. We're all here the official show but this is for just the like inner club. But anyway I was going to say a case study.

00:02.60

mikebledsoe

It's the first one.

00:16.94

mikebledsoe

We'll do the intro when we start the official show.

00:35.54

Max Shank

On viewer engagement. One of the best I've ever seen was this Youtube channel called Ants Canada okay I think it's like a filipino dude. It's some asian guy who has this Youtube channel called Ants Canada and every fucking film.

00:51.20

mikebledsoe

Ahead.

01:14.58

Max Shank

Is about ants and ant colonies and he sells ant gear but basically he has this membership that he calls the Ac senate right? and so he basically has people pay to have a say in all kinds of weird stuff like. What are we gonna do with this new colony. What are we gonna name this thing and he gives them like preferential voting rights for what happens in the community. It's so crazy. How ah how much this guy connects with the audience. And's so it's a weird stuff ah because ants and ant colonies are pretty weird but talk about a case study for how to engage with an audience. This guy is dialed ants Canada case study ants st ants canada is a case study for.

02:57.28

mikebledsoe

Aunts Canada alright.

03:07.76

Max Shank

How to engage with your audience on multiple levels. He sells physical products. He has basically ah a membership where you get called? yeah like ants like the bug the insect. Yeah exactly it's incredible.

03:28.28

mikebledsoe

It's a and TS like like the like the insect to podcast.

03:46.40

Max Shank

No, it's video series Youtube thing. It's not a podcast but he sells ant colony plastic molded parts to people. He also has this this. It's the weirdest thing I've ever heard of like you would wonder like why is it that people would pay to get to make decisions but he has positioned the joy of naming a new ant colony or deciding what to do. In this like new video series as good as Tom Sawyer ah portraying the benefits of whitewashing offense. He's like wouldn't you guys like to make this decision for him like they are driving his content and paying to drive the content. It's.

05:30.86

mikebledsoe

It's really I mean it's as Facebook Twitter you know create the platform. Yeah create the platform and just let them let the let the people be the product was that the people will create the product. They'll be the product.

05:32.38

Max Shank

It's unbelievable Youtube oh my god what an acquisition.

06:02.50

mikebledsoe

And then you just sell advertising.

06:08.32

Max Shank

It's like ah what they did with was it Hong Kong or Singapore can't I remember 1 of them. It's like the guy's name was Lee coshing you ever hear that guy. Ah.

06:30.90

mikebledsoe

E.

06:41.24

Max Shank

Rikash xing Hong Kong business magnate none richest guy in the world. His whole thing. He just like built up. Ah let's see hold on. I don't know his whole thing was about owning the port that that was the that was the ah whole story. Basically.

07:24.20

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, it's kind of like the the gold rush. The people who made the most money were the ones selling the shovels I think that's where maybe Levi's came from the blue jeans is yeah I'm not 100% sure on this but I I think that ah that.

07:38.16

Max Shank

Right. Um, leave eyes.

08:03.32

mikebledsoe

That denim company or maybe another denim company Levi's make sense though. Ah made their fortune and their start by selling denim clothing to miners. It's really durable.

08:25.20

Max Shank

Like little kids or like go look for gold in the mines Now they probably send sell more to little kids I don't know I don't wear a lot of jeans. Do you wear a lot of jeans.

08:36.64

mikebledsoe

Look go look for golden mines. Yeah, yeah, off to I'd like to not anymore not with the not with the clothes that come out today I just discovered. Um.

09:02.16

Max Shank

I Hardly wear jeans. It's not that comfortable.

09:15.54

mikebledsoe

Viori made a new pant that is looks really clean, but dude great for travel because I can wear them in a hundred degree weather I might as well be wearing shorts they breathe So well, they look nice and you know I.

09:24.24

Max Shank

Ah. Are yeah.

09:51.22

mikebledsoe

I Don't even like to wear shorts I don't like to wear casual shorts I Either want to wear pants or athletic shorts and it might be something it might be like spillover from the the military because that's pretty much how it works there. But I think like casual shorts look silly on men. Ah.

10:01.80

Max Shank

A.

10:17.60

Max Shank

Right? right. Um, like what? what do you mean?? casual shorts like cargo pants.

10:31.28

mikebledsoe

That's just like you know like yeah like like cargo shorts or just like the shorts that are pants that are cut off. You know it's It's like those are kind of silly. It's like when I just wear athletic shorts I'm like an athletic shorts and fanny pack or I'm going to be wearing.

10:49.96

Max Shank

Ah, you know what.

11:07.94

mikebledsoe

You know some slacks.

11:10.94

Max Shank

You know what? I'm really into is like the like the ah Rei type of hiking pant and I and I want to get some that turn into shorts but I was thinking about it and I don't know if I would rather have them unzip all the way.

11:22.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

11:47.58

Max Shank

Or if I would want to have them roll up and clip on I haven't seen many like that there are some out there because I have I have a couple pairs totally but the utility I mean.

11:51.50

mikebledsoe

I think roll up and clip on makes more sense there. There are some out there I've seen some yeah the zip out I try to avoid moving parts as I try to. Until the zipper breaks plus rolling up just looks way cooler. That's that's the real Rob there they look cooler than having a zipper hanging off your shorts.

12:26.52

Max Shank

Is fantastic. So maybe maybe the roll up till the zipper breaks. Yeah, that's a good point. Those are my my favorite pants I got a couple at Costco they're just.

12:57.00

Max Shank

Yeah, that's a great point I went on a bike ride yesterday actually mountain bike ride for the None time in like years. Ah, all because I was learning about air compressors and how our compressors work.

13:03.40

mikebledsoe

I mean.

13:34.56

Max Shank

And so I was getting out my air compressor and I was like how how does my air compressor work. How powerful is this thing Really what kind of stuff because I bought one when I got my house because I was like every house needs an air compressor because I was ah like I didn't really know? Yeah, like yeah.

13:59.32

mikebledsoe

Oh like a proper air compressor one with a big tank. Yeah, not the kind that you carry around in your car. Yeah something you could use with tools and whatnot. Yeah yeah, I'm into those those.

14:12.76

Max Shank

Like a little pancake. No no I wouldn't It's a little too big and heavy for that. Yeah, like a nail gun staple gun that kind of thing and so those things are savage.

14:36.38

mikebledsoe

I've got some air compressor tools. If if you're gonna work on a car I don't know how I don't know how I worked on a car before I have that which I don't really work on cars much anymore. But I remember that being a major upgrade.

15:04.26

Max Shank

Yeah I think knowing how to put stuff together like that is such an underrated ability because I notice as I am problem solving in the garage with my hands. It makes me it makes it easier for me to visualize how to put other things together. Like Ideas. You know this attaches to this and you have to divide this. You have to sharpen this. You have to round off these edges. There are all these problem solving things that go on with how to put stuff together and it makes me even think of like mathematics how that factors in to.

15:43.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, there's um.

16:20.62

Max Shank

Putting stuff together and how much how much you just learn through the process of doing it. You know it's good to know arithmetic. But I have it.

16:32.70

mikebledsoe

There's a book. There's a book called the metaphors we live by and have you read it did you did you buy it on my recommendation or did you just happen to get it simultaneously. Wow Yeah I I hardly run in anyone who's read it. Ah.

16:52.62

Max Shank

I think I had I think I bought it before? Yeah yeah, ah yes, and like most books I've read I maybe retained like 10%

17:08.18

mikebledsoe

But have you read it.

17:22.74

mikebledsoe

Got it? Yeah so metaphors we live by really highlights how the mind works and that everything in the mind is a metaphor to something an objective reality and so ah so kind of like the.

17:53.96

Max Shank

Right now.

18:00.98

mikebledsoe

Projectile and project metaphor We talked about before yeah eyeballs. Um.

18:06.94

Max Shank

Eyeballs eyeballs are super reliable but they're not showing you objective reality because there are a lot of layers.

18:19.88

mikebledsoe

Well, they are but you're not filtering it. But anyways.

18:32.44

Max Shank

Well your eyes don't show you objective reality your eyes show you? How light is reacting with matter but there's a lot going on that is beyond. The visible spectrum is what I'm saying.

18:44.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

18:55.10

mikebledsoe

Totally. But so one of the things it talks about is ah like ontological metaphors and so one is how we refer to the mind. So the mind is a machine so there's all these examples of.

19:26.90

Max Shank

A.

19:33.86

mikebledsoe

Ah, that in in the English language the mind is a machine and it's also brittle and so when you look at the English language as a whole the majority of the references to the mind is that it's a mechanical thing that's brittle.

19:48.36

Max Shank

A.

20:09.12

Max Shank

Right? It sounds dangerous. Sounds like a dangerous belief to me like that that makes me a little queasy even based on how I see the mind or how I would try to define the mind or even just the brain.

20:13.48

mikebledsoe

And so ah, people believe that it yes and.

20:44.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but but you know and and it's common language is as people are talking are unconsciously talking about it in this way. So they're further embedding this thing is true and so they they they don't know how to treat their own own mind or organize it because they actually have an incorrect.

20:48.30

Max Shank

Like the organ because I think that's different.

21:00.58

Max Shank

Um, right right.

21:23.92

mikebledsoe

Or an inaccurate view of what it actually is ah so one of the things the book talks about is how we use objects to ah create Concepts so anything that's conceptual. We're having we need to.

21:28.26

Max Shank

He no.

21:48.00

Max Shank

E.

21:58.28

mikebledsoe

Associate it with an object out in physical space and so ah, one of the things that I've noticed I'm in total agreement with you I've been I've been meditating on this because I read that book about a year ago and I noticed that as I've been doing more physical tasks and building things that my ability to problem solving in the conceptual realm has gone way up and anytime I'm having a conceptual problem I go work on something that's on an object I go build something or fix something. Ah.

22:45.12

Max Shank

A.

23:07.18

mikebledsoe

All of a sudden the world makes more sense and I think part of that is if we spend too much time in the conceptual Realm without being in the objective Realm Then we end up. Ah, we end up way out in this place that doesn't make any sense. And and we become ungrounded and I know you and ah I are alike in this way because we love the mental Masturbation. We'll go off into some conceptual Realm and start changing. You know, ah physicists do this. They'll change one lot of physics to solve a problem and then they try to. Bring it back and so and then reapply to law and and it's one way of doing experimentation but the problem is a lot of people start doing that and they never come back to Earth and so I think having that balance between doing things and objective reality and conceptual. And conceptualizing things is really really beneficial.

25:12.48

Max Shank

Oh Yeah I was laughing so many times there because it makes me think about how enslaved people are by thinking certain things matter and the word matter is funny right? Because. Stuff matters. Ah you know water is matter air is matter and these ideas that we have. It's like we think too many things matter that aren't matter at all.

25:51.44

mikebledsoe

Right.

26:02.36

mikebledsoe

This bottle is matter.

26:26.50

mikebledsoe

Ah, well does just to make the statement that something is matter that isn't matter pulls you out of reality. You've become ungrounded.

26:28.36

Max Shank

And you are just more and more divorced from reality because hold right? of course look um these words and ideas are. Very useful and it's never the complete truth because they're just symbols right? but they are concrete enough to give us the plans to make a plane or a computer I mean that's all language derived and that's how the matter is directed. So. The ideas are like the pattern like Pattern Pattern father and the stuff the substance the matter the mother ma her modern is ah guided by our ideas. But if you don't have what's that yeah.

28:09.34

mikebledsoe

Oh man I'm loving these metaphors that that makes so much sense because that the father is is the structure of like the pattern structure and the matter is the stuff.

28:23.80

Max Shank

Yeah, if you don't yeah if you don't have the father's the pattern the Pattern the pattern right? mother is the matter. Yeah, the stuff and the ah the energy.

28:47.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

28:55.84

Max Shank

It's like kinetic and potential I mean there are a lot of ways that you can ah yin and young and dichotomize these ideas right? But ah my point is that we are made of matter you eat an orange. You actually are that orange is becoming you. And your body is able to break it down into its basic components and then that stuff becomes you and the stuff that doesn't become you becomes shit or sweat or something like I mean it's crazy, but it literally becomes you so this idea. That when you um, get your hands involved. You get so much of your brain involved and then it's rooted in a reality that is very easy to understand. It's very It's all about, um. God I guess it's all about power really when you get down to it because we're talking about ah force times distance ah or work over time is power ah, power is work over time work is force times distance. And that's that's a reality that's easy to track momentum things like that all this dark matter. Ah like black hole shit is mental masturbation. It's fine. It's mental masturbation though. But once you start getting in there and you can do macrame you can. Ah, make something out of wood. You could carve something out of Clay. Ah but building that connection between your creativity and your curiosity and this physical reality is critical and if you apply that same thing to fitness. Fitness is essentially ah how well you're able to deliver force how well you're able to deliver force into your right leg so you can run and take a step with your right leg and how well you can absorb.

32:56.36

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

33:21.00

Max Shank

And return Force I Mean That's why my latest training program is called elasticity because it's all about absorbing and returning forests without ah permanent deformation and that's that's like as close as you can get to the best longevity practice. And we all have our pet loves for ah what makes fitness good or what makes you live a long time. But if you ah you know have good friendships and family kind of ties if you have fun and if you. Ah, fast. So You just don't eat too Much. You'll live a really long time even if you're just like medium elastic Fitness you just need ah a basic level of how to interact with your environment with these alternating forces.

34:48.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

35:06.26

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

35:11.64

Max Shank

Ah, so it just it's very centering even climbing a tree go climb a tree and then you are like intimately associated with the forces required to lift you up off the ground and once you're in those situations you have room to explore and then this. Idea of like what matters or like what you should be fucking prideful of like I God I was just thinking the other day you know almost every holiday is about victimization that we have. Like almost every holiday is like it fucking kills me because we have like okay we have like memorial day that's ah, it's for the people who were killed like we are appreciating those poor victims but that's what they were. They were victims and of course we don't talk about like why they were victimized.

36:44.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

37:07.34

Max Shank

Because people don't really like that when you go in? Oh dude I'll be fucking kicked right out of the cemetery if I say these guys died for nothing but the fucking ambitions of old politicians with nothing better to do than tell other people how to live their fucking lives.

37:07.66

mikebledsoe

Of you start getting into that but people will get offended.

37:46.40

Max Shank

And so people don't like people don't like that no way because you know to generalize Bobby Joe went into that Vietnam and he did his country proud and that is a way better belief to take with you than he died for nothing.

37:46.40

mikebledsoe

Um, people don't like that. No no.

38:08.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you know what? um.

38:25.90

Max Shank

But some fuck fuckwit politicians who just think they know best right.

38:32.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah I um, my girlfriend and I are out. We do things around town and Texas is a very patriotic place and I which means I get a lot of discounts because I'm a veteran and.

39:04.54

Max Shank

The.

39:09.66

mikebledsoe

I get a 5% discount on my guns at Cabels. Ah, it's i't I can't get a discount on guns anywhere. Ah yeah, but I get in free at play at parks and stuff and in Texas where other people are paying to get in anyways. So I get.

39:20.44

Max Shank

That's pretty cool and.

39:46.30

mikebledsoe

Hit with thank you for your service pretty frequently and and Ashley my fiancee she she knows how I feel about every you know about a lot of things she goes. What's it like what's it like to hear that because you know I always just say oh yeah, you're welcome. You know that's what my.

39:49.18

Max Shank

If.

40:05.30

Max Shank

Um, ah a threat.

40:24.30

mikebledsoe

My my pleasure you know, whatever it is that comes to mind at the time you know whatever I'm just trying to make them feel good about them giving me a compliment or whatever. But and when I did join I did think I was going in to be of service to humanity that was.

40:29.28

Max Shank

Ah, thank you.

40:42.14

Max Shank

Right.

41:01.94

mikebledsoe

Impression I was under but the yeah where I stand now is like yeah I don't feel proud I don't feel ashamed I kind of just I'm very neutral about it. It's I've dealt with the fact that I got duped and like.

41:19.78

Max Shank

He no.

41:36.18

Max Shank

I Guess you could call that neutral. Ah.

41:41.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah I mean I got well I got duped and I've accepted it I'm at peace with it right? like we've all been duped. We've all been duped and you know what I'm I'm lucky because you know I did get some really great experiences out of that that made me a very resilient guy and.

41:52.52

Max Shank

Ah, ah, okay, right.

42:08.80

Max Shank

Yeah, and.

42:17.24

mikebledsoe

You know there's There's a lot of benefits I got from it most mostly the discounts but the.

42:28.64

Max Shank

I Just imagine if someone said take you for your service and he said yeah I was probably a mistake. Or or just like I wouldn't recommend I wouldn't recommend it.

42:46.66

mikebledsoe

Ah, you know I'm I'm trying that out. Well, it's bad enough that people are going to hear this on the show. Ah, but yeah, it's like ah that's all we know. But yeah, it's um.

43:08.84

Max Shank

Um, hey look it's not for everybody. It wasn't for you. That's all we know it wasn't for you. It wasn't for you.

43:24.40

mikebledsoe

But what you're saying is accurate because the the way Well the well we can go back to the holidays. But when I look at when I look at um, the government and military service and all these things is when I started looking at the government is just there's a book called the Sovereign individual and in that book they talk about how.

43:28.98

Max Shank

These holidays.

44:04.14

mikebledsoe

Formation of government and how they were there to protect farmers from people who would come and take their shit and if they didn't hire them. They were gonna take their shit and if they did hire them. They're gonna take a percentage of their shit and so ah. Basically when you.

44:42.80

Max Shank

Basically you got guys with the swords and you got guys with the hose right till in the field then you got a sword guy and you got a hoe guy I'm more of a hoe guy I think.

44:46.40

mikebledsoe

Exactly and some and yeah, some so like in the beginning it was just like who who is ah who's got the most brute force and then over time they accumulated armor horses like a ah Knight in armor. Can take out like 20 people on foot. You know like the this is yeah this is this is it and so true that yeah, but but here's the thing is before the and but.

45:30.20

Max Shank

This is grounded in reality too unless one of those guys on foot happens to have a really nice bow and arrow and then that guy's fucked speaking of projectiles.

46:00.98

mikebledsoe

Before the invention of the rifle to become skilled to be able to afford the time and the money to be a great soldier. It was it was rare and so only a select few had been in the position to do so and so.

46:36.56

Max Shank

Even ants do this. They divide up the labor into soldiers and the workers back to the ants again.

46:39.00

mikebledsoe

You it. Yeah, yeah, and so the so the whole formation of the idea government has been basically the same it's it's identical to the Mob. You know you're.

47:13.84

Max Shank

It's identical to any group. It's about specialization Ideally right.

47:17.42

mikebledsoe

I Know if any group but like but any group that uses the threat of Force violence and coercion. So not every organization does that and so.

47:40.12

Max Shank

Um, is there any group where everybody does the same thing I think it's always about specialization.

47:48.78

mikebledsoe

It is about specialization but what I'm saying is what makes these organizations special is that they ah they rule by violence and a threat of violence coercion. These things that that's how they get people to comply.

48:25.26

Max Shank

Um, without nonviolently with like words instead of Swords basically.

48:27.50

mikebledsoe

With their rules. Well they use words. But if you disobey those words you will then meet you know.

48:46.80

Max Shank

Well, that's leverage right? That's that's really, um, how control works because if you if you ah if you don't follow the words and they just have to sword everybody to death. It's.. It's like not very good for anybody like now all the farmers are now all the farmers are.. It's kind of like a strike.. Basically I mean all these all these parallels within the symbolism of language I I have this idea that words have evolved basically the same as anything else.

49:25.76

mikebledsoe

It's not good for anybody. Yeah, so they got to use the there's ah.

50:01.92

Max Shank

In Nature longer sharper Claws Stronger Armor Camouflage Decoy Venom you know people fucking hurt each other with words all the time and only sometimes do they hurt.

50:25.80

mikebledsoe

And.

50:36.14

Max Shank

Ah, people with actual like sticks or weapons or something like that and sometimes they turn them on themselves right? We we fucking think Shitty things about ourselves we put ourselves through these I mean ah I guess I'm a fitness guy so we put ourselves through these like ball bursting workouts.

50:37.36

mikebledsoe

Yeah, they've gotten so good at can most of the time.

51:13.82

Max Shank

That are only harming us because we're just like so desperate. Um for some pie in the sky vision that we have I mean it's crazy how much language causes harm and self-harm. But anyway my point is like it's too inefficient. To go fucking hit everybody with the sword. It's way more efficient to just threaten the sword.

51:54.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the the the evolution has been that we use these words and so it was the words were simple and the sword was strong and then over time while the Swords gotten stronger. But the the words have become. People have gotten very clever lawyers are some of the most clever people on the planet ah politicians are basically they're just Lawyers. So These people are creating these words. Yeah, they create these words and you know, um, there are certain people.

52:40.40

Max Shank

Oh yeah.

52:52.18

Max Shank

Um, the word Warriors the word warriors.

53:10.96

mikebledsoe

Who are there's a very small population of people who are pretty much I think you and I fall in this category kind of like yeah you know those are just words and you want me to do this but I'm not going to and then you have the majority of the population that are like you're going to defy those words and.

53:44.18

Max Shank

Right.

53:46.84

mikebledsoe

And they completely freak out and they don't know what to do? They think that you're a bad person because you're ignoring these words. Um that somebody else put together and in order to try to control you so.

54:07.22

Max Shank

Well because otherwise like you are ruining their paradigm. You're destroying their sense of reality because they're like well I can't do that and I'm like actually there there are just consequences to everything you do you know that.

54:18.14

mikebledsoe

Totally destroying it.

54:35.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you can do anything you want. You can do a lot of things.

54:42.84

Max Shank

That's it you could do whatever there are consequences like if you tie a noose around your neck whack off in the closet. There's a much higher chance that you will die from hanging. But there's also a decent chance. You'll have an orgasm that's like None or so of the usual 1

55:20.40

mikebledsoe

There's otherwise to do that You hit me up on my private blog on on how to do that without choking yourself. But anyways.

55:22.40

Max Shank

So.

55:32.68

Max Shank

Fellas you hear that Mike is offering orgasm boosters free orgasm boosters. What kind of percentage can you offer increase 50% increase a 3 hold on.

55:40.64

mikebledsoe

Free orgasm boosters at least 50% now now I would say out. No no like 300 I mean yeah and yeah, with with just common common things you can pick up at the store.

56:07.68

Max Shank

Ah, 300% increase

56:19.18

Max Shank

Like cocaine. Ah.

56:19.76

mikebledsoe

Nothing you don't have to go see a drug dealer. But if you no, no, no like like over the counter things. But then um, yeah, over the counter and then um, you know if you want to get into the other I can guarantee like a None x but you know that's going to require some hard to get ahold of.

56:30.20

Max Shank

Over the counter.

56:55.60

Max Shank

Honestly I think ah I think I think this would be something that you you could probably do a one pager on this for our premium Inner Circle club.

56:57.88

mikebledsoe

Substances.

57:20.56

mikebledsoe

I Feel like this whole episode's going to be an inner Circle Club show. Ah you know this is the commercial This is this is actually it. This is this one. We're giving away for free. This is the one you get for free from now on the pre ship. This.

57:23.38

Max Shank

Like I would be interested in like a little that's all it is This is just for the this is this is it. We're gonna air this and and to be fair, we might be Fucked. We might be fucked because this might get us. Ah. Extradited or what's the excommunicated because of all the stuff we've said.

58:01.30

mikebledsoe

Well this is why I want everyone to go and get a ah podcasting 2.0 app on your phone instead of Spotify because Spotify itunes. They could just take us off anytime they want because some sjw employee gets pissed off.

58:24.12

Max Shank

Oh my God can you imagine? Holy God I Think that's I think the pendulum is swinging back I think people are craving uncensored Oh I Love it.

58:36.96

mikebledsoe

So ah. I think so I think so but not but not the employees of Apple and Spotify. They're gonna be the last ones you know and Twitter but I it will shake out it but we need. But.

59:00.98

Max Shank

Yeah, we'll we'll see how it all shakes out I mean ah Seasons change Seasons change.

59:19.58

mikebledsoe

Decentralization is what will force it and so using a podcasting 2.0 app is part of the decentralization movement. So I like ah podverse myself. So if you just go and download podverses. Our shit will never be taken off of that. But.

59:54.40

Max Shank

Bu ya.

59:59.20

mikebledsoe

But Spotify has taken down None I think over 70000 podcast episodes in the last year yeah based on the content. No now they remove certain content. They even pull down some of Rogan's content

01:00:12.90

Max Shank

Whoa Really I thought they were cool. Not cool. Bummer I Do know that by the way if there was ever something that. Ah.

01:00:35.00

mikebledsoe

But not all of it.

01:00:45.96

Max Shank

Was valuable but let's be able to say words other this is a core value. This is a core value here. Okay folks this is this. It's rooted in reality look. It's fine talkytackytacky ever Blah Blah Blah blah. But as soon as someone comes in with the stick.

01:00:53.40

mikebledsoe

Come on. Well this goes back to what you were just saying.

01:01:24.88

Max Shank

You got to like fucking face that reality and so if we can't resolve our differences with words. There's only None choice left and that's physical violence I think everybody should be versed in physical and verbal violence. Not necessarily so they can be violent toward other people. But so they can recognize it number None and defend it number None

01:02:07.86

mikebledsoe

Well I like that I like to Define violence as the person who initiates force so I would I would say ah be well versed in debate because ah or or diplomacy right? So like to me.

01:02:36.76

Max Shank

Right.

01:02:43.20

mikebledsoe

War is just an extension of Diplomacy You know we were like oh diplomacy failed I'm like no this is just we're still being diplomatic. It's just a very violent diplomacy and so the same thing with the words is you know we start off with disagreement. We're trying to work it out things escalate We can't.

01:03:06.64

Max Shank

Interesting.

01:03:17.88

Max Shank

Great.

01:03:20.60

mikebledsoe

Find agreement in the words because people aren't You're right, People are not trained in the ability to listen to understand and then communicate the wall just goes up and you've talked about rhetorical fallacies before the wall goes up and then now it just becomes a mudsling contest.

01:03:56.66

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:03:58.60

mikebledsoe

That that will result if that doesn't get resolved in some way it will result in physical force. This is why the None amendment's important because if only yeah and and because if only 1 group of people has access to violence.

01:04:13.74

Max Shank

The None and the second those are almost all that's important. But.

01:04:35.10

Max Shank

Um, oof because then you go.

01:04:37.56

mikebledsoe

Then then we're in big trouble which takes me back to the point I was making hang on the point I was making which is like the when I look at when I look at ah government. It's hard to tell the difference between government and the mom because they're basically saying give us. A certain amount of your profits give us a certain amount of your of your hard work and we'll make sure that your shop doesn't get burnt down. You know we'll make sure your kid doesn't get beat up in the alley and they're basically saying the mob is basically saying. Overtly, they're saying we'll protect you from other people. Yeah, covertly, they're saying pretty much if you don't pay us None of our thugs are going to come get you which is which is the same thing that happens with the Us government is they say.

01:05:50.12

Max Shank

It's called a protection ring. It's called a protection ring. It's been around for a long time.

01:06:09.36

Max Shank

Ah, right? yeah.

01:06:23.82

mikebledsoe

We're going to protect you from all these outside guys and we got police officers stationed in there. We're gonna protect you as long as you. But if you if you don't give us a None of your life then we're actually gonna come fuck you up and so that's the price of the club. Yeah tough shit. There's like no way out.

01:06:26.48

Max Shank

Move.

01:06:41.98

Max Shank

Right? That's the price of the club and if you don't like it well tough shit This is the only club in town. It's the only club in town. It's like ah you know there is a thing about power companies. You know when you have a single.

01:07:03.56

mikebledsoe

And so well hang on. So so so so when I started when I recognized this this extremely similar ah view of government and the mom.

01:07:16.98

Max Shank

Go go ahead? yeah.

01:07:38.98

mikebledsoe

And I just started looking at all these governments around the world as just mobs that are controlling different geographical locations by by which um are mainly dissected based on Language. So if the language changes that's where the border begins. When there's a different language because you can't control people anymore because they can't understand you and so ah government control happens and within the borders of language and then you basically just have you just have.

01:08:35.50

Max Shank

K case that's http://dciendocappassosenorexplicka me and espanio poque non anddo.

01:08:50.98

mikebledsoe

Exactly. So. So so when you start looking at the world as or the government as just mobsters that are ruling really large pieces of geography and they're all. You know, jocking for position. Everything makes a lot more sense like the Russia Ukraine thing makes way more sense if you just think about it as a couple of mobsters that are that are jocking for position and the United States has done a good job of like. United States has done an incredible job of being very strategic in the way that it's done things. It hasn't it hasn't necessarily ah won with brute force for instance with the Ukraine thing is if you think about mobsters are running Ukraine right now right. Because anyone who has a government is being There's a mob and so those mobsters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well the good the good mobsters of Ukraine are um, just you know the the us government is lending them. What None

01:10:50.92

Max Shank

No, but those are the good mobs. We like them. They're the good mobs.

01:11:18.20

mikebledsoe

Billion dollars a month or something like that that they're never going to be able to pay back all right? So if only someone would come tell me what to think? So so then ah.

01:11:22.22

Max Shank

Oh my God I Wish someone would tell me who the good guys are and who the bad guys are if only someone would come and let me know what to believe about this.

01:11:56.32

mikebledsoe

So then you got so the way I see it is the us government has done an incredible job at buying the people of Ukraine as slaves and so because they're under the control of the Ukraine mob the ukraine mob how are they going to pay back that money they can't pay back that money. So basically they're going to be in debt to the us and the Ukraine is the breadbasket of europe so they produce the the lion's share of the wheat and other things necessary for making a lot of food products and in Europe and so now. The way I see it is the us government. Everyone is everyone is going. You know? Yes for Ukraine I'm like I'm like the us government just enslaved the people of Ukraine and you cheered them along the whole way and is like yeah we are like you know and that is um, that's 0 comment on what. Putin's doing you know whatever you call him more criminal. Whatever the guy's not a good guy. The guy's not a good guy but but people miss that.

01:13:56.16

Max Shank

It's it's about relationships. It's about relations. It's about relationships. It's about relationships and it's about trying to understand what the connection is between those relationships and in order to really get it. You got to reduce the number of parties down, you got to put the words like none and None out of your mind and just say what is the relationship between these different entities or individuals and what you're saying about the us specifically is. They recognize the power of both words and swords because words, okay, nothing scales better than words because it requires no material transfer. It requires only a transfer of pressure waves basically on some level and and. Transfer of ah it's just it scales way easier than actual bullets and actual swords and and if you have both then then you're like King of the castle. Basically so we have crazy weapons and we also have.

01:15:38.90

mikebledsoe

Ah, especially with the internet and everything just repeats easily.

01:16:13.92

Max Shank

Ah, lawyers and bankers and politicians that use words the same way that we're using Bullets and missiles and shit like that and we have we have ah stuff that's happening behind closed doors I mean Okay, let's talk about language again just for a second because.

01:16:25.28

mikebledsoe

Totally.

01:16:50.54

Max Shank

Want to talk about the word conspiracy conspiracy happening all the time people are meeting in secret to discuss plans all the time we would have to be totally naive if we don't think that's going on basically everywhere like every every group is meeting in secret.

01:17:24.88

mikebledsoe

The Cia is ah is a series of conspiracies.

01:17:29.90

Max Shank

We meet in secret we meet? yeah and of course they can't tell everybody everything I mean how fucking schizophrenic do you have to be your level 1 clearance your level 10 clearance I'm a level 10 cia wizard. So I know like 90% of the secrets but only 10% of this I mean it's.

01:17:42.24

mikebledsoe

So it's a conspiracy. Yeah.

01:18:09.70

Max Shank

It's Insane. So ah, kind of tying it back to how we use language and use ideas bringing it back to reality Once again, just doing something with material objects that exist somewhat. Independently of Language. You know how you interact with a tree or the ground of course you have the word tree and ground in your mind but your movement and your creative expression through physical materials. Even if you don't think you have a knack for it. It's very grounding experience.

01:19:37.32

mikebledsoe

Back to physical materials. Yeah, well they? um well what's interesting is my friend Jesse Elder he he's been studying the law extensively the last couple years and um.

01:19:42.80

Max Shank

Um, that that's what I tried to bring us on back because.

01:20:17.64

mikebledsoe

Basically looking at like the foundation of law you know, not you know what are all these little laws that are floating around that are getting passed all the time and changing. But you know yeah, but like what is the the sole basis and we go back in history. What is law.

01:20:33.00

Max Shank

To contract. It's It's just a contract that's it.

01:20:52.36

mikebledsoe

You know how does it operate so he did that and if you can figure out the fundamental principles of how these things work a lot of things get real simple so he did that and one one of the it's what.

01:21:11.92

Max Shank

It's conditional phrases right? I mean I'm not trying to diminish but isn't it like it's conditional. Phrases. It's consequences like the code of Hamurabi was a system of laws but they are very simple if you steal. A woman then you get your eye plucked out and you have to marry her some shit like that. Basically and if you're talking about arbitration which is a little different than law. Basically you are just dealing with an arbitrur like a judge who is deciding.

01:21:45.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:22:20.32

Max Shank

Who's right when they present like the clay tablets or something like can you imagine being. Ah, you know an arbiter back then but that's what they would do so that guy gets to decide but you have it's just enforcing contracts I think and every every relationship you have.

01:22:22.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:22:43.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, that's what it comes down to.

01:22:59.30

Max Shank

Because a contract is oh gosh. It's ah it's a projected relationship. How about that using the words that we've been thinking about so a contract is a a relationship projection or a relative projection between one or more.

01:23:17.86

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:23:31.28

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you're gonna do these things I'm gonna do these things if we don't follow through then it breaks down. There's the consequences.

01:23:39.44

Max Shank

Entities yeah, and it works with yourself too. It works with yourself too. You make a you make a to do list. Maybe you sign at the bottom so I'm going to do this by the end of today you made a contract with yourself. You break the contract but you're also the judge here and you go like what happened. You know should I should I go to jail should I be full of shame or something like that should I punish myself. Do I get 50 lashes? Yeah, um, but I think we do that.

01:24:15.46

mikebledsoe

Should I punish myself emotional jail ah, ah so so jet so Jesse started digging digging into like the principles of law. And None of the results that I've seen in his life is. He's become extremely analog. Ah he is like he he sees the matrix I mean when you look at I mean the law is the matrix and so ah, everything that.

01:24:55.98

Max Shank

Totally. Ah.

01:25:18.14

Max Shank

It's a matrix.

01:25:20.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's a matrix I would I would say it's probably like based one of the base layers of the matrix and then um like the media sits on top of that. But um, he he's gone extremely analog like he's living. He's got twenty acres he's living out on it. He doesn't deal with crypto he. Ah, you know tries that work primarily in gold and silver and like getting he's getting very analog. He's using technology like he's installing a solar farm. He's doing. He's doing some things to harness technology but he's become very analog and.

01:26:28.14

Max Shank

Right.

01:26:37.76

mikebledsoe

What is valuable and so and what he values is analog and so in a world where right now so much of the value is digital and which is which is somewhat of a physical manifestation of something conceptual and so.

01:26:49.52

Max Shank

So true.

01:27:14.22

mikebledsoe

Because we're talking about Energy. Ah Bitcoin is just energy and because it requires energy from the sun whether it come in the form of solar oil. Whatever it is ah it it comes in the form of energy that's being exchanged so there is a physical component to it. But. Which is actually way more tangible than say the Us dollar which has ah which is primarily ruled by what whatever somebody thinks or a group of people think instead of being ruled by actual physical world laws and.

01:28:15.72

Max Shank

Um, that well money is its own like ah shared. It's actually a conspiracy so money is a human conspiracy just like language.

01:28:33.40

mikebledsoe

It's yeah well fiat currency would be yeah, say more.

01:28:53.50

Max Shank

That's that's it money is a conspiracy just like language I mean the fact that.

01:28:55.70

mikebledsoe

Some people some people understand I mean you're right? because there are very. There's a there is a handful of select people who make decisions in secret about the money supply.

01:29:23.52

Max Shank

Oh I mean just like it's not ah like a like okay so steak is not a human conspiracy like a dog still understands. What steak is it might know it by a different name like maybe steak for a dog is like.

01:29:49.14

mikebledsoe

Right.

01:29:58.00

Max Shank

Wolf Af or something like that I don't I don't know exactly what it's like for a dog but like money is and language are purely human conspiracies like we made all this stuff up because it's useful so they're useful lies. Essentially words are useful symbols so that we can.

01:30:09.82

mikebledsoe

I'll go ask my buddies dog.

01:30:35.78

Max Shank

Project these ideas ah into ah interchangeable parts Basically and that's what we're looking for with money is it's the ultimate interchangeable part because it's like ah an I O you that everybody agrees on it's a. Ah, accepted anywhere right? So it's money's like God It's if you believe in it it it is ah infinite Power. It's total potential and it's such a useful tool. There's no I can't.

01:31:31.92

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:31:49.52

Max Shank

It's so difficult for me to envision a society where we didn't have a way to exchange goods modularly. You know people talk about the fungibility or non-fungibility of token. Sometimes the fact that a dollar is a dollar is a dollar is a dollar is a dollar and I mean it did used to be backed by gold which was cool but let's not be too wistful over the glory days. But in any case. The fact that we have it and that we can change it and move it so quickly means that I can you know ah work under a bridge given hand jobs send it back to my scientist grandpa in Hungary and he can use that money. To build a nuclear fusion reactor or something like that right? That's that's incredible that you don't have to but based on my hungarian physicist ah grandfather I was thinking of him every time I gave a hand job under the bridge.

01:33:40.52

mikebledsoe

That's based on a true story folks.

01:34:04.94

Max Shank

I was just thinking this is going to be unlimited energy for everybody I'm not going to let you down pop pop anyway, ah, but but that's that's what I mean is like you you can turn hand jobs into cold fusion potentially and that is why money is cool. Ah, so we wouldn't have these computers and microphones the ubiquity of the cell phone like all this stuff was done because we were able to transfer this um potential of human action and it just it kind of reminds me of this funky idea I had. When I was none learning about like the coins and the cryptos and things like that and I thought it'd be cool to have something called like a handycoin that was ah just based off of the value that a person placed on like 1 hour of labor.

01:35:50.38

mikebledsoe

I Thought you were gonna say hand jobs but handicoin and a yeah.

01:35:59.34

Max Shank

No, not not not hand that would be even better. None coin equals one hj full stop. That's actually a better idea now that I think about anyway, but the whole idea was like you know you can put a posting on Craigslist or you can. Ah, go out to home depot and you can find like ah, a laborer who will do sometimes skilled sometimes unskilled. No no, no, no, but but but that's what that would be for is just for unskilled labor. Every hour is equal and so.

01:36:43.94

mikebledsoe

Um, are you are you saying that every hour is equal in value. No no okay.

01:37:05.52

mikebledsoe

Ah, so you create a caste system.

01:37:12.36

Max Shank

The value of that coin the value of that coin would be related to what someone is willing to do for an hour like 1 hour of unskilled labor. Ah, but at least it's tied to like.

01:37:37.54

mikebledsoe

Isn't that how just capitalism works.

01:37:50.30

Max Shank

The floor of ah one of of labor per hour right? It's like it's like it sets the floor which it is a value. Yeah, but it's so it's different. It's only correlated to ah.

01:37:51.24

mikebledsoe

So there's a minimum.

01:38:02.88

mikebledsoe

Sounds like a minimum wage.

01:38:23.40

Max Shank

Like someone actually doing real work I don't know like I said it's not a night. It's not an idea that I've taken over the finish line. Ah, but it's ah this idea that it needs to be tied to something and right now it's tied to our belief and that works.

01:38:32.00

mikebledsoe

I'm not sure I'm following.

01:39:02.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah I I think the problem that people have with money right now is that? Ah, there are a handful of people who are controlling how it flows so ah, not necessarily.

01:39:03.26

Max Shank

Weirdly enough it. It's not great, but it's okay like if.

01:39:29.48

Max Shank

Has that always been the case.

01:39:39.64

mikebledsoe

Not not to this degree I would say that. Um, so for instance when when the dollar is tied to gold money. Well I'm I'm talking about primarily money so like um so on 1 hand you have.

01:39:52.24

Max Shank

Are we talking about money or wealth or both and.

01:40:16.00

Max Shank

Um, like not.

01:40:17.52

mikebledsoe

And organization that decides. Ah how much the interest rates are going to be like what's what's the debt going to be worth and then you and then they also control the amount of money that's in the system. So those are like really big picture things. So so of when you're.

01:40:49.44

Max Shank

Oh yeah, big time.

01:40:56.00

mikebledsoe

When you're working with gold which you know all governments have inflated there even when it was gold. They did things like shave off the edges and you know there's ah until people figured it out and they lost faith in it. Yeah, they have so you can't fake it and so then um, so.

01:41:14.14

Max Shank

That's why those coins have ridges right? That's why they put the ridges on the coins. Ah.

01:41:31.34

mikebledsoe

The money supply and then the cost of debt is 2 major things that are that are employed big picture and then you have taxes so that I think the tax code is 176000 pages something like that. Ah, it might be a little bit maybe 76 maybe oh there. There's a.

01:41:56.40

Max Shank

I think maybe only 76 but but but but None like you that should be simple.

01:42:09.52

mikebledsoe

There's a ton of there's all, there's but there's basically all these rule the whole point in the tax code is to incentivize people under a certain type of behavior and it's it's.

01:42:32.34

Max Shank

And hide and hide what's actually happening and create as much of a smokescreen as possible for what's actually going on.

01:42:43.48

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's they they want to they want to confuse like the majority of people need to be confused about what's going on because if the majority of people knew exactly what was going on there'd be riots in the streets. But the.

01:43:07.80

Max Shank

We would sell a lot more guillotines if that were the case Guillotine sales. That's that's what I'm actually getting into right now you know pendulums and government swing I think we're like perfect time to invest in guillot in Guillotines I think ah.

01:43:28.34

mikebledsoe

Well, how let's look at the tax code I got to do this search on the tax code.

01:43:44.46

Max Shank

You know you can sell your ultimate Orgasm formula and then I'm going to sell guillotines for the coming revolutions.

01:43:53.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, we got figure I got to figure out how this tax code thing. Um all right. There's the myth of the 70000 page federal tax code.

01:44:10.78

Max Shank

It's really long.

01:44:19.60

Max Shank

It has to do with um like references to it because there are amendments to the tax code and there are cases that have modified how it's interpreted.

01:44:38.52

mikebledsoe

So the tax code has nearly tripled is it ah the tax code has nearly tripled and linked over the last thirty years um 70000 is not true. The tax code was only 20 so so it's it's. It's like triple of the None pages. So I think it's anyways thirty years ago is 2600? Oh no, none the tax code was only about 20. It's so funny and this blog says it's only None pages long. Um, yeah, but the point so.

01:45:47.60

Max Shank

Ah, it shouldn't even be 2600 words long fuckers. Let alone pages.

01:45:50.40

mikebledsoe

So um, yeah, so the so the so you've got a small group of people controlling the supply of the money you got a small group of people controlling the ah cost of the debt and then you have a small I think between. Ah, the senate the congress and all the the the the top government I think is around None and something like None something people so None something people are controlling 350000000 people.

01:46:55.92

Max Shank

It's leverage.

01:47:07.30

mikebledsoe

With a 2600 page tax code that incentivizes certain types of purchases disincentivizes other types of purchases. Um it ah it does it does really incentivize investing in real estate which is interesting because you can.

01:47:21.92

Max Shank

Right.

01:47:35.14

Max Shank

Well let's also look at this because it's not ah like those politicians are only like fabricating these ideas in their own mind. They're having people come in and say like hey we're this ah business that does one ah 0 every month.

01:48:07.94

mikebledsoe

These politicians don't write these laws. These laws are being brought to them.

01:48:14.22

Max Shank

And and and right and like hey Joe blow politician um, you know I was thinking. Ah you know you could you could really help us out. Ah, but you know I don't want you to work too hard. So I I went I went ahead and prepared the law for you.

01:48:49.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, which the law the which the law is like 10000 pages long. There's no way who the fuck reads those things. No one reads that shit.

01:48:52.82

Max Shank

I went ahead and had my lawyers prepare this law for you and I I left this spot at the it's about 10000 pages I sent a copy to all your colleagues already I put a place here for you to sign your name at the bottom and I think it's a really really good idea for you to do this.

01:49:27.48

mikebledsoe

And and we'll we'll pay your son like $10000000 a year for advisory.

01:49:32.46

Max Shank

And because like power. Oh dude that guy is that guy is fucking set but you know Hidden hidden in that fucking quagmire of verbal violence in that fucking law that's been written is. How um competition and free market is prevented right? It's not like going to be awesome for everybody. Ah, it's gone too far but it's just because we have set up the rules of the game.

01:50:24.98

mikebledsoe

Yep.

01:50:46.98

Max Shank

To allow for too much of ah human error. Basically.

01:50:49.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and so this is where um so we have to believe in the money I'm talking about belief which means you got to trust it right? And so we're at a in my lifetime we're at a record breaking low of trust in.

01:51:10.16

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:51:28.32

mikebledsoe

Government or the record breaking low and trust in media I think that in since the emergence of crypto there has been a trickling of people in droves that don't trust the money that that trust ah 1 of the things that web 3

01:51:59.64

Max Shank

A.

01:52:07.38

mikebledsoe

Really ah has brought about is it requires less trust because you can't fuck with it like it doesn't matter how much somebody wants to change something. It's not humanly possible to change some of these rules and how these crypto.

01:52:46.54

Max Shank

Question for you is web 3 basically trying to use blockchain technology to store web data and provide server. Ah for websites.

01:52:47.00

mikebledsoe

Cryptos work. Yeah.

01:53:13.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's that's that's one that's so it's a ledger well blockchain is just a really advanced ledger system that's automatically updated in decentralized web 3 in blockchain everyone in the same.

01:53:23.66

Max Shank

It's like decentralized web servers.

01:53:35.48

Max Shank

No, but web 3 I'm asking. Okay, I'm okay.

01:53:51.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the the way I understand it. It's it's just web 3 is kind of you say blockchain and people get a little confused and go web 3 and they go oh like you know web one was we can send information from computer to computer web two was we have html and everything's visually we have visual graphics and. And we can. There's clickable things and and then social media and then Web 3 is blockchain mother of all demos.

01:54:39.84

Max Shank

You should see the mother look up the mother of all demos sometime it shows what it's fucking great I think it was in the 60 s we were able to do like ah word documents and video chat and all kinds of shit in like the 60 s.

01:55:14.74

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:55:19.48

Max Shank

Called the mother of all demos um wild what was capable way back then and then that wasn't ubiquitous for people that wasn't common for people until forty years later something like that not nuts.

01:55:41.10

mikebledsoe

Right? Yeah, there's that's it's fascinating. Um.

01:55:54.74

Max Shank

So that's the leverage though is how fast we can communicate a message a lot of ah censorship speaking of like the None amendment kind of.

01:56:06.90

mikebledsoe

Well, there's also you not just how fast can you communicate a message but can it actually get through the noise. How loud how loud is your message and how well received is it because there's there's a there's a level of skill that's involved in being heard.

01:56:21.14

Max Shank

Yeah, well and. Absolutely no question I mean I think that's why stand-up comedy is one of those places where the rubber meets the road on free speech a little bit because if you're allowed to say anything as long as it's a joke. Then you can still at least get that message into people's minds without having ah it be controlled and that's ultimately what drives a population if if suddenly it was the law like so that's that's what's kind of interesting. You know I don't think it's good to have. Like a lot of power in the hands of a few people. It's back to leverage same thing as a hammer right? It's physical leverage in different ways. Um, but if they suddenly made it like the law to kill None puppy every week like let's just say that became the law people would not do that.

01:58:27.84

mikebledsoe

Well, it's got to be Ah, it's got to be done in small bits I mean all right? So this may actually happen. Yeah this this may actually happen right? So they So there's the media's put out the yeah, the media has put out some notices that.

01:58:29.80

Max Shank

Because the collective consciousness of whether that's okay or not.

01:58:44.64

Max Shank

You're like talking Boiling Boiling Frog right? Yeah yeah, the puppy killing oh shit, you know what you're right? The puppy flew.

01:59:07.84

mikebledsoe

You know some people are getting getting. Ah yeah, they're getting Well they're getting coronavirus they're It's like oh statistically we find that people who are around dogs more get coronavirus. Whatever.

01:59:17.52

Max Shank

Copy flu.

01:59:27.40

Max Shank

Oh God Oh don't don't even put this out. It's so easily could happen. You could get people to kill puppies as long as you said puppies increased the no fucking way. Wow.

01:59:35.98

mikebledsoe

So so here's the thing there are cities in China where they've gone in and killed all the dogs. Yeah, and so it's already happened and so um, which.

02:00:04.80

Max Shank

Heavy heavy.

02:00:12.90

mikebledsoe

When we think about that happening in China we go. Yeah that's totally believable because they're under some weird you know they're they're under some like heavy mind control. But I think that people I think americans give themselves way too much credit on how ah how little. They they think they they're being exposed and are subject to way less propaganda I would say it's less propagandized in the United States like we're not as susceptible because there's so much competing information where there's not as much competition for information there. But the propaganda is real.

02:01:04.92

Max Shank

Overt. It's just yeah, ah.

02:01:26.32

mikebledsoe

And so all you gotta do? It's been proven in the last two years all you gotta do is make people think that they're gonna die if they don't do this thing and they'll fucking. Do it. They'll strap 3 masks on they'll put an experimental vaccine in their body and they'll they'll ah make statements like.

02:01:56.76

Max Shank

Oh god we just got flagged. That's us we're done. He's in Texas go get him I was never here. Ah.

02:02:01.54

mikebledsoe

We should throw people. We're done off Spotify. Ah I'm in Texas I'm in Texas good luck. So yeah, um.

02:02:34.34

Max Shank

Oh my gosh. So it's all it really is it all comes down to force right? It all comes down to how much of an impact you can make with words or with stuff it all comes and it's leverage.

02:02:52.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, because with the words you can still like if if ah, a small group of people can convince the large group of people that I'm a bad guy. They don't even have to get their hands dirty and so they use mind control to create violence.

02:03:21.18

Max Shank

Totally, you're separated from it.

02:03:32.34

mikebledsoe

And that's another thing we've witnessed big time in the last two years is they don't have to fucking create violence. They'll all they got to do is leverage some media to get people really hot and bothered then put.

02:03:50.38

Max Shank

Nobody wants to get their hands dirty.

02:04:08.20

mikebledsoe

Certain Spokes holes out there to to tell people how they should think what they should think and next thing you know things are burning. Yeah.

02:04:18.56

Max Shank

Hurt people hurt people right? hurt people hurt people. Ah and the more removed you are from the impact the easier it is like imagine if ah. Kind of like in game of thrones. The one who passes the sentence or the one who passes the sentence should carry it out like if you're gonna sentence a guide to death. Yeah, that was a stark thing. Yeah, well, it's cause it's like really warm weather and there's.

02:05:02.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah I mean that that was ah and ah that was a stark thing as the the northerners believed in that but you know you go to the South a bunch of soft pussies.

02:05:32.40

Max Shank

Ah titties and asses everywhere on the beach like I I don't blame them I get it like I I wouldn't be too like I wouldn't be too Stern with duty if the beach was like full of naked chicks and coconuts like what are we fighting for.

02:05:34.12

mikebledsoe

Teddy's everywhere I I.

02:06:07.20

Max Shank

There's food and titties everywhere. Ah but I think that idea of if you're going to be the one who passes the sentence you should carry it out the corollary or the inverse of that is if you can pass judgment.

02:06:06.20

mikebledsoe

Ah, ah.

02:06:44.66

Max Shank

And be totally removed from the action if you can tell a guy to tell another guy to tell another guy to tell another guy to take a drone to this other guy so that guy can drone this fucking stranger to him like he doesn't know who it is. He doesn't Care. You're not going to even feel that. But if imagine if you had to personally choke every person that you wanted to kill that would be a really different type of connection.

02:07:27.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, it's it's well it's this disconnection from responsibility on both ends, you've got the guy passing the sentence who's disconnected from the reality of what it takes to do that and then the person who's executing can just say.

02:07:45.32

Max Shank

Totally.

02:08:03.82

mikebledsoe

You know I'm just following orders but at the end of the day who but eat.

02:08:09.54

Max Shank

Ah, oh God there's a phrase I fuss just following all us now that's not fair. That's not fair that is not a cool thing to do what I just did because it's not like the germans.

02:08:29.74

mikebledsoe

A.

02:08:38.36

Max Shank

Are the only people who have done any horrible shit that is so unfair of me. The only reason that we use them as the poster boy. The only reason we use them as the poster boy is they just happen to target the group who is best at marketing and that's why that story is the most popular.

02:08:48.26

mikebledsoe

Oh I'll I'll say this.

02:09:12.80

mikebledsoe

Well now now you're now you're gonna now you're really stepping in it.

02:09:16.64

Max Shank

Of all the evil stories. Oh what Jews are bad at marketing mike.

02:09:33.10

mikebledsoe

Um, you're right? Um, yeah, there there's there's there's.

02:09:37.26

Max Shank

So some of my best friends in the world are Jews they're usually very smart. They're usually financially sound. They're usually pretty good at business I mean I hate to generalize.

02:09:52.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's there's plenty of groups of people. Yeah, there's plenty of groups of people that have been exterminated and and more more mass that we're not nearly as good at marketing you right? Um, and but yeah, that's that's well.

02:10:13.32

Max Shank

Totally.

02:10:25.92

mikebledsoe

We have We have police officers and just ah, you know make it fair. We have police officers that are doing no knock warrants but are serving no knock warrants ah busting people for drugs that are not hurting anybody and and it harmed a fucking soul and.

02:10:55.82

Max Shank

Oh god.

02:11:04.62

mikebledsoe

There are really egregious things happening I mean your domain your your where you live is a sacred place. It is yeah 1 time out your house. But.

02:11:09.68

Max Shank

Totally.

02:11:23.50

Max Shank

I Live in fantasy Land I live in Fanta No No I mean literally like my house and my sense of the world is basically fantasy land because all this horrible Shit. We're talking about I Actually don't have to see most of it but there are slaves. In the world there. There are horrible things. There are that that's wild. How much did it cost I'm just kidding I'm just kidding.

02:12:00.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah I've seen I've seen I've seen Slavery Firsthand I I was shocked. Yeah oh I I What the slaves. Um.

02:12:35.26

Max Shank

I assume you would have gotten 1 Okay.

02:12:39.18

mikebledsoe

Now we we ended up being a rescue.

02:12:51.20

Max Shank

You mean I just thought of like you know you adopt a dog you like rescue a dog versus you buy 1 at the breeder. That's what I thought you went for some.

02:13:04.00

mikebledsoe

No, no, no, no, we we were. We were coming up I was in the navy we were coming up on what looked like a ship in distress and it was full of slaves being traded from Somalia to Yemen and so ah so that shit's that shit's.

02:13:26.00

Max Shank

Good God See That's what I'm talking about that stuff's happening all the time. Yeah, we're divorced from that reality and in some ways that's good because how much shit can you really pay attention to should I Really? okay.

02:13:41.22

mikebledsoe

Shit's happening all time. It's real. We just we just happen to come across them. Yeah.

02:14:05.86

Max Shank

Like I'm I'm not nice or bad I'm just whatever I am basically but should I really concern myself with with what's going on in like the Ivory coast right now or something like that when I could have like I mean.

02:14:28.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

02:14:40.66

Max Shank

I got None of room to improve my own life. The last thing I need to do is put my attention somewhere where I can't have any impact at all. That's true for so many of us.

02:14:41.76

mikebledsoe

Well.

02:14:56.62

mikebledsoe

But I agree with the the problem is is we people care so much about something that's happened in Ukraine but don't care about what's happening in other countries that well I would say in other countries and so what people aren't realizing is like look if you want to have like.

02:15:17.60

Max Shank

Um, in their own life in their own life. Oh yeah.

02:15:36.94

mikebledsoe

I've taken this on I like look I I do believe I I want to be exposed I want to be exposed to the reality of death I want to be exposed to the reality of the most atrocious things that are happening I want to know that those things are happening and so because I I think it's good I think it's good to. To be aware that these things are happening where people get in trouble is they aren't able to look at everything equally they're not able to look out and go oh there's these atrocities over here and there's atrocities over here. They're looking at the atrocities in Ukraine. They're not looking at the atrocities in and.

02:16:15.54

Max Shank

A.

02:16:50.38

mikebledsoe

In some places in Africa or the Middle East where we're bombing the shit out of people and and so if you're only focused on 1 atrocity and you're not willing to look at another.

02:16:54.80

Max Shank

Um, yes, totally.

02:17:18.15

mikebledsoe

You're not actually having an expanded view of reality you're being controlled by the media.

02:17:22.83

Max Shank

And you can't prioritize and you can't prioritize. It comes back to matter because if you think like whatever they say matters today matters most to you then you're just going to be spinning your wheels forever. You're like. Oh my god I'm just feeling so banged up about this thing. Oh this new thing I'm sad about and trannie's this and can we play sports and are you black like all this kind of stuff. It's like who gives a fuck like this is this this is the mind of a schizophrenic person. But if you're not connected.

02:18:17.76

mikebledsoe

Yeah, we have global schizophrenia.

02:18:28.58

Max Shank

Yeah, but how could you evaluate with how could you evaluate what matters most to you in any given moment if you're being fed this idea and buying it hook line and sinker that this new thing you just heard of suddenly matters the most and when you realize how many things you could care about you. I think you'll eventually come back to what can I do right now within my own life and then as far as like policy is concerned. There's only 2 things that matter and that's Authority who's in charge and jurisdiction when are they in charge.

02:19:40.72

mikebledsoe

Neither one of those things seem to be matter to me neither one of those things seem to be matter to me.

02:19:42.25

Max Shank

And that's it. What's that. But for policy that that's the only thing that does matter that's correct that is correct. That's correct hey look.

02:19:56.72

mikebledsoe

But it's not matter. It's just words.

02:20:20.38

Max Shank

Words can matter and words matter to you and they do matter to me but you can choose.

02:20:30.86

mikebledsoe

But they don't matter as much as matter I just want to get that point across. Yeah, they're just 1 step from matter I mean words are just metaphor for matter. So.

02:20:39.24

Max Shank

Certainly not how could they so anyway back Okay, fuck it I I go the other way I say words matter a lot I say words will fucking transform words are the pattern.

02:21:03.14

mikebledsoe

I.

02:21:18.94

Max Shank

That is going to change your matter. Okay, so when you when you well look. Let's take black lives matter for a example and I got something to say about this there. It is I said everything I can say.

02:21:19.18

mikebledsoe

I Agree it's great at manipulating matter.

02:21:36.26

mikebledsoe

Oh that's good 1

02:21:57.20

Max Shank

Ah, no, no, but like all kidding aside this is this is like a ah weird racist idea like the only thing we should all want is for everybody to be treated Well man woman gay straight black white. Not purple people fuck those people but any anyone like normal colored we should treat the same so it it kind of like look I don't want to shit on anyone's cupcake either? Okay, but do we have like a national women's women's day or something like that. We we have these weird celebrations We have.

02:22:46.94

mikebledsoe

Um, I think you do.

02:23:04.90

Max Shank

Pride month and that's ah, that's a weird one like I I think being gay is really awesome.

02:23:12.98

mikebledsoe

Elon Elon Musk made a really good ah a controversial tweet. Basically he's pointing out how all these companies just all the sudden are are fucking leveraging and this this idea they don't give him a fuck.

02:23:31.40

Max Shank

Um, Oh yeah, well your I your identity is getting hijacked and ah worst off I mean look I think from my own direct Experience. Nothing has fucked me up as bad as my own pride. So. So so so it's like basically like volunteering to ruin someone's life for a whole month. It's like hey you know that deadly sin that we're all desperately trying to avoid. We think? ah. You would enjoy a whole month straight of it. No homosexuality is awesome. It looks really fun. In fact, I've never seen anyone who looked like they were having a better time than a couple of gay guys at a gay party right? Ah, that's that's.

02:24:51.30

mikebledsoe

He's talking about pride folks not homosexuality.

02:25:13.28

mikebledsoe

I agree I I'm I'm jealous I'm jealous.

02:25:24.40

Max Shank

Fully and that's fully uninhibited and I think ah you know the old school gays and trannies. They would not want to control language about what's going on like I I like the the like old school trannies. From like the 70 s and eighty s who were like really buff black dudes and who were like god damn I look fine and address and but but that's the old school type what I'm saying is these these bitches were wise you know and they were tough and if someone.

02:26:07.82

mikebledsoe

They're still around I've been I've been to the club. Yeah.

02:26:32.12

Max Shank

Was like you're not a real woman. They would be like suck my dick and then they would be like you know, brassy and tough and they would risk their lives to go dance in like ah a tranny Speakeay and I I respect that but this whole like you gotta. You got to call me this or you got to call me that or I'm going to call dad and they're going to hit you with a stick. It's like that sucks we need. We need these old school trannies to talk some sense into them about free speech because there's no reason that that should be but there's no reason that there.

02:27:31.94

mikebledsoe

Now now we're getting kicked off Spotify. Ah.

02:27:47.34

Max Shank

Okay, like those people also look fun like I think that's great, but this whole idea that we should treat any person different because of how they want to like mutilate their body or enhance it like I mean fake fake boobs Totally fine cut your dick off not fine I think they're both fine.

02:28:10.22

mikebledsoe

Well well.

02:28:22.56

mikebledsoe

I I think.

02:28:26.82

Max Shank

Personally, but I think any time you want to control the language of other people you have a mental disorder. Basically.

02:28:39.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and and you're it is someone trying to force other people to participate in their identity and that is that's insane like was it a.

02:28:59.20

Max Shank

Right? That's like forcing someone to come to your party hey hey I'm throwing a party Friday I don't want to go. You're coming.

02:29:18.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you're racist if you don't come and I'm gonna call your boss and they're gonna fire you.

02:29:32.68

Max Shank

Ah, ah oh God pride go before a fall pride Pride's pride is not something that you really want to like emphasize in your life I think being open being able to express yourself.

02:29:36.64

mikebledsoe

It's like no I was well from time for myself.

02:29:46.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

02:30:10.18

Max Shank

Very good. It's just you know these words do influence our matter quite a lot. So this idea. Ah this idea that we yeah okay ah I don't know like I'm I'm so skeptical about joining groups. Anyway.

02:30:18.34

mikebledsoe

Bring here, bring it back up mic up. It keeps falling.

02:30:46.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

02:30:48.82

Max Shank

As you know, but like you lose you lose so much of ah that groundedness and reality when you're like I'm on team ah Republican or I'm on Team Trans or I'm on team Black I mean I think if I could be on team black that would be pretty cool though. In in my life. Black people were much cooler better at dancing I feel like I would get a lot of street cred if I was on team black actually as as a white guy but I don't think people should be ah I don't know forced to whatever other people's ah.

02:31:39.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:31:59.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah I mean I think we you and I both just believe people should leave each other alone and some people are just nosy and and controlling. Yeah.

02:32:04.18

Max Shank

Lives.

02:32:16.30

Max Shank

Um, what a novel concept what a novel concept. So what are we trying to do here mike has this been our None secret episode is that what ah has gone on here.

02:32:35.00

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, so this is ah you just got a taste of what happens during most pre-shows. Ah, although we went a little.

02:32:59.70

Max Shank

Max and Mike Raw

02:33:03.86

mikebledsoe

Um, that's definitely a porno. Um well.

02:33:15.44

Max Shank

Ah, at least we already have 1 filmed hey oh.

02:33:25.62

mikebledsoe

Ah, so um, say yeah, we're playing around with the idea. Maybe we'll do ah we tend to talk about 20 minutes we tend to talk about for about 20 minutes before we do shows and yeah ill I'll gonna talk to my tech team and see what.

02:33:41.88

Max Shank

We'll do a little pre-show.

02:34:03.62

mikebledsoe

And marketing teams see what they think cause I can't do anything would like some feedback from their audience. What I'm thinking right? now is maybe a pay what you want ah membership to get yeah, come get in the club hear The pre-show get some of the raw conversations that ah.

02:34:09.62

Max Shank

Let's get some feedback from the audience though too Huh I Want to. I Like it to join the club.

02:34:38.52

Max Shank

Ah.

02:34:40.46

mikebledsoe

Come about and also witness the how we come up with the idea of what we're gonna do for the show that day So there's there's a lot. There's so many things that we discussed before the show starts that I wish was recorded that doesn't necessarily fall in line with the rest of the show but is still extremely valuable.

02:34:50.20

Max Shank

Um, I mean we could even do like a. Yeah, yeah, it'd be cool to give people a chance to participate too like maybe they could ah it depends like we could. Ah. Plug them into the call we could do like a live tweeting thing for them or like a little. Oh. No I mean we can just like um, get them involved. Ah.

02:35:36.12

mikebledsoe

I Don't think we can live stream out of our current system.

02:35:57.38

mikebledsoe

How would you like to be involved. That's it showing the name. Maybe we could do it. We could do it like a telegram group. We could do I don't fucking know and I say I'm gonna talk to my tech my tech and marketing team are good to talk to because I could tell them what we and then they.

02:36:06.68

Max Shank

Yeah, how would you like to be involved That's ah that's a good question like what would you like us to cover. Yeah I like these ah more human interactions.

02:36:36.32

mikebledsoe

Um, like hey there's what we're thinking about doing and they'll come back and say oh you should you could set it up like this this and this these guys look I'm 40 these guys are in their 30 s early 30 s they.

02:36:40.28

Max Shank

Yeah.

02:36:51.24

Max Shank

Age card look at that folks. He's trying to get clout by look how old I am look how fucking old I am what a thing to brag about you son of a bitch.

02:37:07.26

mikebledsoe

Oh humble brag Humble brack. No, but the the ah the all these guy I now I don't know that's that's not what I'm saying at all is I don't keep up with the shit that's popular right now I don't know what technology is out there.

02:37:24.30

Max Shank

I'm so old that I got smarter than you.

02:37:35.80

Max Shank

Um, that's.

02:37:45.48

mikebledsoe

Um, like I want to do this and then they tell me a dozen ways to do it some of which I are like Wow you can do that now. So that's why it's help talk to them now.

02:37:58.34

Max Shank

Yeah, let's talk about widgets next time, Let's talk about our favorite ah tech stuff.

02:38:11.60

mikebledsoe

We never. We never talk about the thing in the next show that we think we might talk about in the previous show I think so all right? we end it there give us your feedback if you want to reach me directly just hit me up on Instagram Mike Underscore Bloodso and now.

02:38:23.12

Max Shank

I Think we're going to talk about things on the next show it' going to happen.

02:38:50.70

mikebledsoe

And then you want them to do any hoops you want people to jump through max.

02:38:56.42

Max Shank

Ah, well thanks for tuning in my name is max shank. You can find me at http://maxshank.com and I hope you have a lovely rest of your day.

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