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The Bledsoe Show

The show formerly known as "Bledsopia" On this podcast, you’ll learn from thought leaders who are dedicating their lives to being a positive force for your physical, psycho-emotional and spiritual health. Your host, Mike Bledsoe, seeker of truth & perpetual student, spotlights premier thought leaders in the fields of emotional & intellectual expansion, behavior change, sexuality & alternative medicine that empower you with the tools and inspiration to transform your mind, body, & spirit. Every week, this is your opportunity to get downloads from exceptional people that will guide you to the connections between your own source, to live your best life & enjoy the process.
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Aug 25, 2022

In this episode, I talk with Jeremiah Dupin, international entrepreneur and founder of Poke Poke UAE.

Jeremiah shares with us how his experience with chronic illness led him down a path to nutrition obsession. From there we’re going into a deep dive into the nuance of nutrition.

What we eat really affects our day-to-day lives, and not enough people understand what they’re putting in their bodies, and how that affects more than just their bodies. It affects our mood, cognition, sex drive, and more.

That’s why today we’re talking about why it’s so important to understand these nuances and make the right nutritional choices that are right for each of us.

Check it out. You all are going to learn something today.

Aug 18, 2022

In this episode, I talk with the inexhaustible Mr. Noots as we discuss nootropics, and have some fun along the way.

Mr. Noots talks about his life from selling novelty test tube babies as a kid to buying his first laser to his time in the US airforce, and how the horrors of drug addiction set him down the road to become what he is today: the mind behind Nootopia.

Along the way, we talk about the importance of self-awareness in biohacking and programming states of mind to learn new skills.

But the most exciting thing we talk about in this episode is what Mr. Noots has learned in his mission to uncover the secrets of better nootropics. He tells us how people never experience an optimal state of mind because they’ve only experienced a suboptimal state and how effective nootropics make it possible to achieve these optimal states again and again consistently.

It’s an incredible, wild ride of an episode. You should all check it out. 

Aug 8, 2022

00:00.00

mikebledsoe

Well I think we should record now then you got 2 Eight week puppies a week old puppies. Yeah, you don't seem much like ah.

00:01.45

Max Shank

Yeah,, let's do it. Puppies are great. Yeah, ah. I don't seem like a dog owner at all. And in fact, so far I have not been.

00:13.52

mikebledsoe

No.

00:19.17

mikebledsoe

What did she do to you.

00:22.92

Max Shank

Made me an offer I couldn't refuse I guess I mean it's it's funny. Um, we talk about basically on this show. We talk about benevolent selfishness not in so many words, but basically do as good for yourself as you can. Well doing good for other folks and I've never wanted to have the responsibility required but I love dogs. Someone brings a dog into the gym and I'll just play with it the whole time I'll completely ignore the people right? but. I don't know there's a really nice, beautiful connection between beings between a person and a dog and Lindsay my special lady friend. She ah she just fell in love with this dog right. And I watch the two of them together I'm like man I don't want to because Lindsay and I cohabitate so I don't want to stand in the way of that so I was like ah I guess you can have a dog and it can live at the house but outside basically and then. Within 1 trip. Um, it was put on the table like we should take her her brother also so a pair of dogs and that seemed really nice and i. Kind of started to question all the resistance I've had toward that because resistance is a funny thing. It's either the exact right thing and in fact, you should experience a lot of resistance toward stupid risky behavior ah like jumping off cliffs. With no safety equipment. It's not really a reward there. The resistance to do that is is a good thing. It's a safety mechanism but basically ah I thought it would be good to to shake things up a little bit might as well go to instead of one also is. My thanking.

02:32.35

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think it's kind of like it's probably easier have 1 or 2 kids instead of 1

02:41.43

Max Shank

It's like ah, an energy balancing thing I feel like um, it's ah, a boy and a girl puppy and of of course I'm a boy and my lady is a girl I shouldn't say of course I mean who knows I could be whatever I want to be but it's like ah it feels like a good.

02:55.73

mikebledsoe

It's right can make it up anytime you want.

02:59.18

Max Shank

Yin Yin and Yang balancing so husky pomeranian mutts they're adorable. They're the cutest dogs ever seen. Yeah, one of them is and 1 of them is not.

03:00.66

mikebledsoe

Yeah I love that what kind dogs are these.

03:08.70

mikebledsoe

Wow They probably are furry.

03:17.77

Max Shank

It's they would don't even look like they're from the same litter.

03:18.69

mikebledsoe

Ah, interesting. Yeah, we're looking to getting a dog I think we're gonna end up getting a pit. We want to get like a big tough dog and like a little tiny. Yeah and then I have like a little tiny Yipper you know.

03:22.26

Max Shank

1 1

03:28.67

Max Shank

Ah, defense dog.

03:35.27

Max Shank

like like fuck what's his partner's name like Lenny in of mice and men and then the little shorter smart guy kind of you know I'm talking about ah man it's like ah there are these 2 guy.

03:37.24

mikebledsoe

So.

03:46.78

mikebledsoe

Now.

03:54.39

Max Shank

Someone and Lenny in of mice and men anyone who's read that book and remembers it is laughing right now because Lenny is this ah mentally challenged guy and then there's the who's huge and then there's the much smaller guy who basically. Calls all the shots and Lenny's like I like to pet rabbits and you know that kind of that kind of thing so you got the big. You got the big dog bringing the muscle and then you got the the smart dog.

04:13.33

mikebledsoe

Right? Yeah, yeah, so. Exactly exactly we'll make it work. Yeah um I had an interesting weekend. The ah my my fiance and I did a little couple's Journey. So.

04:25.00

Max Shank

Yeah.

04:38.14

Max Shank

Oh.

04:40.88

mikebledsoe

We took some special medicine. That's really good at opening the heart and creating more connection. So we had an all day experience together. Ah a variation variation which is.

04:46.47

Max Shank

Is that mdma.

04:55.35

Max Shank

Mdma is like hooking up your heart to an electrical socket. So.

05:01.45

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah I took ah a variation of that slightly different. Ah it's it's better for 1 on 1 connections or connection to self if you were to take it in a big group. You would kind of find yourself being a little more hermit versus mdma.

05:11.60

Max Shank

Oh.

05:19.90

mikebledsoe

Where you're going to want to you know, be friends and make love to everybody? Yeah, so um, it's yeah, but.

05:20.70

Max Shank

Love everyone? Yeah right? What a horrible drug. What a horrific side effect you, you're gonna want to love everybody ban. It.

05:35.30

mikebledsoe

Ah, it's really difficult not to love everybody? Um, but it's it's a really good experience for um, you know, even though Ashley and I have had an enormous amount of personal development work and and. Ah, communication work and all these things and and we're probably we're we're definitely in the the point zero one percent of couples on communication and yet even though we're there with sobriety. We use a substance a heart opening substance. And you know we just start digging into areas that we weren't willing to or you know I think I think that these these medicines are so um, things that are really working on the serotonin. You don't really There's there's a level of presence that you're able to stabilize for a period of time there where it allows you to get deep with somebody so beyond just the being really happy and loving There's also a heightened a much heightened level of of presence and so I got to learn a lot. Yeah, a lot of openness. So like.

06:33.91

Max Shank

Oh.

06:42.95

Max Shank

Sounds like openness to yeah.

06:49.50

mikebledsoe

Like I'm open to hearing a prefer experience and she's open to sharing I'm open as open to listening. It's ah it's it goes both ways if 1 of us was using it the other unpleasant we wouldn't get nearly as far. Yeah.

06:51.50

Max Shank

Right.

06:59.15

Max Shank

Huh unless one of you was super enlightened and able to be very open on command I think that's that's why people say that comedians are modern day philosophers. Because that's ironically like None of the only people we listen to because you use humor and it drops a person's guard so it like opens them up in the here and now so they actually take it in rather than lecturing to someone where I don't know if you tried it, people don't love that they they close up.

07:21.81

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so.

07:29.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah now.

07:34.57

Max Shank

Real quick and so that's kind of like a bit of a psychedelic experience for someone to ah catch you off guard with the surprise of humor so much that it rocks your balance off center and so you're like whoa and you just fully like take that. That bit of information in and you know this openness and boundaries thing makes me think about ah the openness to to welcome new lives into my home. It. Ah it feels already like a psychedelic.

07:53.64

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

08:06.10

mikebledsoe

And.

08:12.64

Max Shank

I mean puppies are drugs Man are you kidding me now I'm like gonna love this thing Yo I'm like fucking rocking and rolling right now. It's insane. The fact that I've even accepted this I mean last week I would have never even considered it every time she asked I was like now I'm like I'm a.

08:12.94

mikebledsoe

Oh yeah, you're gonna be high for at least six months you got it? yeah.

08:32.27

Max Shank

I'm a cat I'm a cool cat I'm a fat cat I'm a fucking cat I don't want any other things around I don't want to love anything else. That's why I told her I was like I don't want to love anything else, but it can happen really fast and that openness right? So what you're saying.

08:41.16

mikebledsoe

A Ah yeah.

08:51.30

Max Shank

With the medicine which is ah an exogenous substance. Basically that's taking you to that level of openness that is required for let's just call it complete communication where there's no like. Coversion right? oh.

09:10.10

mikebledsoe

About as complete as you're going to be able to get I mean if there's another more complete way I would love to be you know, be with that. But um, what we so fast. Well here's the thing is like I'm willing to share a lot of things.

09:20.62

Max Shank

So fast too.

09:28.97

mikebledsoe

Because I have some of the things I haven't shared up to this point because I'm afraid of how she'll receive. She'll receive it and when I'm having that experience and feeling this way I'm like well if she were to share if I were gonna were to share something that's triggering now's the time to do it because this't gonna be she.

09:33.90

Max Shank

Ah.

09:42.40

Max Shank

Wait till after you get married man. Forget it.

09:46.60

mikebledsoe

Is when she's gonna be the most open.

09:51.39

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, so we had a nice time. It created a lot of closeness. Um and gave us like a really clear vision of where we're currently standing and where we want to go together and.

09:52.88

Max Shank

Ah, just put it off till later. It'll be. It'll be fine.

10:00.45

Max Shank

Yeah.

10:08.66

Max Shank

Whom.

10:10.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it was really really beautiful and I mentioned all this because it brought up because I know you and I like to have create distinction and we like to look at the juxtaposition of 2 things and the contrast of things and her and I both really care about.

10:29.40

Max Shank

E f.

10:29.94

mikebledsoe

People right? and we really care about helping people and being of service to people I know you are too and None of the the differentiating factors between how it expresses between her and me which I think expresses similarly amongst a lot of men and women. Is. She tends to really focus in on the individual like how do I how do I help this individual heal or how do I help this individual. You know, live out their best life and all that and whereas I'm much more concerned about humanity as a whole.

10:56.12

Max Shank

Um.

11:02.77

Max Shank

Move.

11:08.39

Max Shank

Totally.

11:08.76

mikebledsoe

How does how are how a society can benefit from how this person is behaving and so what's that what? well yeah, it's.

11:15.53

Max Shank

I can relate I can relate. It's a bit grandiose isn't it I can absolutely relate the that desire ah for for like it's so exactly me too. It's a big difference of scope.

11:26.81

mikebledsoe

Well well, that's where I'm making decisions from it's it's you know like I want to help this person but I'm not going to sacrifice the people around them in order for them to get what they need like they I want them to show up in a way that's good for everybody. Not just for themselves.

11:35.94

Max Shank

Oh.

11:43.53

Max Shank

Oh interesting I I took it to mean like she enjoys helping people 1 on one and you have this vision of being broadly beneficial to you know None or None or something like that. Oh.

11:58.39

mikebledsoe

No, no yeah I think that's I think that's also true. Um, but yeah, my my desire to help there I used to have the desire to help millions of people and and I know I've touched maybe close to that I don't know.

12:03.20

Max Shank

Misunderstood.

12:16.21

mikebledsoe

Ah, with with some type of message.

12:18.77

Max Shank

Depends if you count ricochets which I do and then and then like you've probably affected like a billion people right? I count ricochets. Ah.

12:23.10

mikebledsoe

Totally totally Rick let's count Ricoche's here I'm going to keep that one. Yeah, ah.

12:31.23

Max Shank

Ah, me too that was good that was like a little easter egg for us today.

12:37.11

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so um, ah so I think that men and this isn't you know there are no absolutes here. But I think men in general probably think about humanity as a whole and and women think about the individual and that's probably why women are. Going to be much more compassionate to a single person having that's down on their luck versus a man who's more like you know we need to clean up the streets. You know we look at the we have ah a homeless population in Austin Texas which is um, improving. It's getting smaller because.

13:12.25

Max Shank

Wow.

13:15.21

mikebledsoe

The citizens of Austin got together and voted a little over a year ago to create a camping in the city ban. Um, because years ago the the city decided to make it where people could camp in the city which created.

13:29.17

Max Shank

Yeah.

13:32.37

mikebledsoe

Ah, tent you know several tent cities around town that were just insane and and there's still an issue but you know like we're in the car regularly and these people are on something that's causing them to scream at people that don't exist on the street while holding a sign to try to get.

13:33.78

Max Shank

Um.

13:51.88

mikebledsoe

You to hand them money and um, it's you know and she's like well you know can we help this one person and I'm looking around going. How do we clean this shit up because like you know how much how much do you give this person.

14:00.40

Max Shank

Who.

14:11.52

mikebledsoe

Over time. How much help do you give them before you say look We just gotta push you to the outskirts. We don't know what to do with you like you are your responsibility and you're causing problems for other people so where is that line where we're sacrificing the whole we're sacrificing you know.

14:18.54

Max Shank

Yeah.

14:28.59

mikebledsoe

Many individuals because 1 individual can't get their shit together and it's um so it's it's very interesting to me. Yeah, it's just an interesting place to be is because I I what I'm seeing is if I care about humanity then I have to. Ah.

14:31.95

Max Shank

Totally.

14:47.89

mikebledsoe

The the best place for human the thing that creates the best place for humanity as a whole is when if each each individual is taking on personal responsibility and so.

14:55.80

Max Shank

You see that as just the best option was that the word used. Yeah.

15:02.36

mikebledsoe

It's probably optimal like if if humanity as a whole is going to flourish that would only happen under the circumstance of every individual taking personal responsibility. But what we have is a lot of people caring about.

15:12.41

Max Shank

Yeah.

15:18.71

mikebledsoe

You know the feelings of 1 person and trying to get everybody around them to mold to what they desire sacrificing 20 people to make one person happy. It's very interesting.

15:26.49

Max Shank

Ah, right? Well, it's all about it's all about so our our ah species is the the compassionate caring species now. We're still savage animals like a lizard dinosaur. Ah, baboon right? But we have this super high level of compassion which is the only reason ah and desire for connection emotionally and intellectually which is why people painted on cave walls. And left their handprints. There. There's no reason to do that unless you want another person to see it this desire to like leave your Mark and be part of the tribe and sustain and so that's also very easily leveraged to make absolute bad choices. But ah comparative good choices and it relates back to what we were talking about I think ah, it made me think of ah self versus system and I'm also very much system oriented like I it's hard for me to pick something specific to care about. Because the first thing I do is I see how it's connected to a none other things like like world hunger I always come back to this I'm like how is that even possible world hunger is impossible unless you're fucking with the ecosystem. You know what? I mean.

16:56.77

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

16:58.60

Max Shank

Like there's the right amount of creatures for a certain area or they overeat and then they under reproduce and it like has this normal recycling effect. So if you look at the big system. Totally so the difference between looking at an individual.

17:07.50

mikebledsoe

Ah, the the planet is abundant with food.

17:17.80

Max Shank

Person versus the system I mean look it's not good when someone shoots up a school. Let me be clear I don't think it's good when someone shoots up a school I think it's bad just so there's no confusion here but all but also um, like.

17:28.54

mikebledsoe

Okay, okay.

17:36.28

Max Shank

Let's just shut the fuck up like it becomes such a hot button story but it's such a low amount of the whole system right? So now we're like a fraction of a fraction I mean you could do the math like what's I'm not trying to.

17:45.62

mikebledsoe

Right.

17:54.53

Max Shank

Make light of the situation right? But it's None out of 350000000 people when you know a none are dying of diarrhea or something like that. It's like or fucking mosquitoes are taken out way more people than depressed teenagers with firearms. And so it's like we really don't it's so rare to see people think in systems because ironically the system itself is just taking people on a wave where they care about None thing at a time but they care about it with their whole heart. And they use none of their brain to think about the system at play here and they're like I care about Ukraine this month I care about George Floyd this month I care about police brutality this month or ooh I'm suddenly interested in Afghanistan again because they told me to be like what. What the fuck man I get it.

18:50.75

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, it's very and it is very interesting because I I don't know if it's just because I'm paying attention in a different way or things are actually have actually sped up the. The news cycle is perfectly paced to keep people distracted and if you try to stick with I'm like Afghanistan right? The Afghanistan issue went on the Afghanistan issue went on way longer than it was reported to have gone on. Ah.

19:13.33

Max Shank

Yeah, a trillion miles an hour

19:26.83

mikebledsoe

News about ukraine is dying off actually a lot of the news is now turning into the Ukrainian troops are are you know hiding in civilians' homes and Civilians are getting killed and they're they're breaking international law. But then the. The journalists are kind of like softening it Up. It's like yeah but they kind of have to and it's like no, that's fucking Illegal. Um.

19:48.42

Max Shank

Um, there's a huge reason like it's so good to just look through an abbreviated version of the amendments like 1 of the None rules is no fucking troops can stay at your house and like these people were smart.

19:55.77

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, and that's a Us thing but that's also an international thing.

20:05.91

Max Shank

I Mean these people were smart putting these rules together. So there's there's a reason and and you said it here's how it ah shakes out right? yeah.

20:12.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, things degrade and when troops starts staying in homes and ah you know their job is to protect the population and now they're just putting the population in danger so that the gangsters in charge can win. And yeah.

20:29.70

Max Shank

Martial law mob mob rule.

20:31.51

mikebledsoe

And so yeah, and you know people are just jumping from None thing to another so I'm just pointing out in that news cycle. How like things have to shift in order to keep people distracted and you're right? It keeps them from thinking about the whole system. It keeps them from thinking about. Like why are we always in some type of pickle like the amount of like the fear cycle is just insane and um, you know I don't really? ah.

21:00.27

Max Shank

Because it pays because it because it pays I mean all of this is related to what you said about people making decisions on an individual basis. I mean it's very possible to run a tight ship as a dictator right? but. It doesn't rebalance as quickly or easily as when we're all just adjusting to the natural rhythms right? You vote with what you pay attention to you vote with your dollars you vote with who you spend time with and if you're always.

21:27.14

mikebledsoe

E.

21:36.45

mikebledsoe

It's ah it's a slower. It's a slower and smoother evolution for everybody the the centralized decision making can be very herky jerky it can it can create whiplash and often does.

21:42.81

Max Shank

Yeah, oh no.

21:52.15

mikebledsoe

Yeah, they get results quickly but how much harm is done in the process when when you're decentralizing the decision making like you're talking about it definitely creates slower reaction times but they're usually safer there. Any Danger is. Isolated to a single area and isn't replicated amongst the entire system and um people have a higher level autonomy which means that people are also experiencing the feedback of their behavior in a much tighter system that allows them to become you know, attain more knowledge and wisdom.

22:13.19

Max Shank

Oh.

22:28.26

Max Shank

O.

22:29.87

mikebledsoe

Ah, without being robbed of that by having their decision making diffused over the entire population.

22:35.22

Max Shank

Yeah I really think of it like a shock absorber. Basically ah, it just has more ah more little shock absorbers rather than just 1 linchpin where one guy is calling all the shots and of course it's always the guy who.

22:38.99

mikebledsoe

E.

22:52.93

Max Shank

Desperately wants the big chair and the big stick which coincidentally is the only person who should be disqualified from that position entirely It's just like it's good to remember with all this stuff. It. It is just mob rule based on a popularity contest. Like that's crazy. So I think it's um, maximizing attention but minimizing action. So if you have a news cycle. That's so quickly. Um with writers who know what fucking sets your ah heart and balls aflame ah they're going to. Use the software to even readjust and so there always have something that is commanding a tremendous amount of your attention but they'll never um, give you time to do any action about it. So you you have like None attention and zero percent action which is good if you're. Meditating about your unity with the universe but it's pretty shit if you're like watching people get murdered and bombed and.

23:58.29

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well I think this puts us in a very precarious situation. So um I think you and I both agree that that the United States as far as a group of people is probably the most advanced. Um, the plan is I say the largest group that's the most advanced politically government wise. It's a big you know 33350000000 people are all participating in a yeah for this.

24:20.30

Max Shank

That's such a huge group. Yeah I would say it has the best infrastructure for the most part.

24:33.36

mikebledsoe

You know, a lot of times people like to compare what's happening like the Netherlands to here or Denmark. It's like it's like those people have like ah like less than 10000000 people in the entire country. We have 330000000 this is a different. It's a different situation. Um.

24:36.20

Max Shank

Or Norway Norway. Yeah, right. Right.

24:50.70

mikebledsoe

But you know just just the fact that our country is based on on a philosophical these philosophical concepts of natural law. You know puts us ahead of the curve in a lot of ways. Um the expression of that. Yeah, so.

25:00.79

Max Shank

And it makes it more difficult. It makes it more difficult because it's a bit of a fractured culture Also like I think one of the things that I think that's why I interrupted you. It's so important I think I shouldn't do it anyway. But it's so important to recognize that.

25:11.63

mikebledsoe

In.

25:18.98

Max Shank

In America. The only thing that united us was a desire for freedom to manifest your own destiny now if that includes you know some native genocide then I think we were basically okay with that at the time not now. But at the time that was okay. But so that's the unifying idea but we don't have a culture like let's say Norway or let's say Japan some examples that I think of off the top my head where that there are so many things that are done that are not done because it's the law. Or even because it's profitable. It's done because that's what that culture does and that sort of unity makes things run way more smoothly.

26:00.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah. Yeah, well and everything comes down to narrative and so what we have in the United States is you know Ah the United States was like the beginning of the decentralization of of power of personal response. Of responsibility. It's a decentralizing of that and it's just continued to decentralize decentralized decentralize and what's happened now is there's been a decentralization of narrative and we have you know human beings for none of years grew up in a. With a lot fewer people a lot fewer interactions. We're exposed to way fewer narratives and variations of that narrative and if you go to somewhere like China or Russia I guarantee you that narrative is pretty fucking tight. There's not a lot of variation from. Whatever the top is telling the bottom and it creates a lot of unity like if everybody were buying into the same narrative. This is what hitler was able to achieve you know at the the early years he unified everybody with a common narrative.

27:02.67

Max Shank

Ah, right.

27:10.45

Max Shank

Totally f.

27:19.96

mikebledsoe

And everything went pretty well until you know he took control of all those people's minds and decided to take it sideways. But this I think a lot of people you know, either consciously or subconsciously are. Upset and I imagine a lot of people in these government agencies with ah a lot of these Intel agencies think that it's their job to create a common narrative to unify everybody even if it is reducing things like freedom of Speech. Um, and we know that by reducing things like freedom of speech that just leads to tyranny. Yeah.

27:58.62

Max Shank

The ends justify the means the ends justify the means I mean whenever you get someone with a grandiose idea like that Hitler Napoleon whatever it doesn't matter. They will. That's why I think orwell said it was the most dangerous type of guy because they think they're. Ah, justified in what they're doing. They think they're the hero so they'll commit atrocities thinking that they're the good guy and then there's no way to work them out of that idea and they think oh god that's why you know with everything happening I'm i. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if some really clever people. Ah for good reasons were like we need the world to stop working the way it does because if they believe a story that we are destroying ourselves and the world. Um, you know 7000000000 people plus this giant. Ah, ball or disc. You're on depending on what people are thinking now. Ah the turtle show. Yeah, it's half. It's a half dome. That's a great place to visit by the way half down in Yosemite. Beautiful 10 out of 10 recommend but I would.

29:00.32

mikebledsoe

The turtle show. Um, if.

29:15.37

Max Shank

I could totally get it especially as a systems thinker if I could push a button right now and murder 1000000 people and it guaranteed utopia for the remaining ah billions I would be an asshole not to do it almost right? So if you have that belief.

29:30.59

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

29:34.92

Max Shank

You're like I gotta fucking rape and kill these people for for for the greater good and whenever you hear greater good that that should be like if you hear the word greater Good rest assured you're gonna be bleeding from the Asshole soon. Either literally or metaphorically.

29:53.00

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, so it it becomes concerning because I think that even though America and the ideals that it was founded on is create a situation where we have decentralized narratives and. And infinite narratives and variations of those narratives I mean you've got on. Um one side you've got say something like mainstream media and on the other side you have q and on and q and on is putting out None narrative and in ah in a very convincing way the mainstream. Media is putting out ah narratives and neither one of them are correct and both of them are probably just as far from the truth as the other one is and but then you have all these other variations and ah.

30:42.90

Max Shank

It might be the truth from their perspective by the way like it might be false information but they might believe what they're saying which means they're telling the truth but they're telling a falsehood. Also.

30:50.85

mikebledsoe

Of course. Yeah well I mean I like to define truth is just what has happened and what is happening and people's ideas or perceptions about the truth are are not the truth.

31:06.59

Max Shank

I call that a fact good hard hard to have 1 You can't have a complete one either. That's the problem.

31:08.86

mikebledsoe

So yeah, there you go? Yeah very few people have any facts. Um, yeah. Ah, yeah, so we we we were're in this really strange predicament predicament as americans and what triggered this thought for me was ah the other day China basically cut off like none of. Communication and interaction with the United States and basically said we're not going to participate in our military is communicating and all this stuff. This was ah Friday and I was like oh oh I've been in conflicts before and when one side goes.

31:46.80

Max Shank

How exciting.

31:55.77

mikebledsoe

Silent That's bad juju that's like everybody contracts everybody starts preparing everyone starts wondering who's going to strike first. These are these are these are the thoughts that run across people who are in conflict so people in the military. What do you think.

32:07.40

Max Shank

Winding up.

32:11.66

Max Shank

Move.

32:14.71

mikebledsoe

China Goes silent. What do you think the American military does fucking getting ready just relaxing launch hairs. Yeah yeah, so yeah, just give some space I need some space. Ah but I get thinking about it and I go Wow I look at um, ah.

32:16.51

Max Shank

Probably just just relaxes. No big deal. Yeah, they're fine. Give give them time. Give them some space.

32:34.64

mikebledsoe

You know if you go to say Ukraine right now like there's not a lot of slobs hanging around Ukraine or Russia there there might be some drunks but there's not a bunch of so weak slobs and you come.

32:46.21

Max Shank

Well, they're not a lot of weak people because they just can't be I don't know what you mean by slob but I definitely agree that if you're in an environment that doesn't permit it. It's kind of like that idea about world hunger like if you're in a place you're eating if you're in a really harsh dangerous place. You're tough and you're eating or you're dead. It's like when ah when that Ufc guy. Ah Kabib you remember him and I remember I was just watching because he was like trained in the mountains by his dad who was like a fourth generation. Wrestler.

33:05.10

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so like.

33:24.61

Max Shank

You know and he's just like running up a mountain with boulders when he's like 4 meanwhile you know you could have someone who's raised in Orange County and who's like you know I think I'm going to get into some kickboxing or something like that and they might meet in the same place like in the cage. That's just funny to me.

33:36.98

mikebledsoe

Right. Yeah, no, no and and depending on the sport you know 3 minute rounds the orange county guy might do all right? but I bet if he took it to 20 minute rounds you know we're in a different.

33:44.26

Max Shank

They're like not the same creature. Basically.

33:57.22

Max Shank

Right? Yeah, yeah, it was kind of like ah rocky versus Ivan Draggo also right rocky is just training in the barn with big hunks of wood and the other drawgo in the science lab getting injected with stuff and there's like a.

34:00.73

mikebledsoe

In a different place. So ah, yeah, yeah.

34:13.37

mikebledsoe

Yeah, typical russian.

34:17.10

Max Shank

Super computer on the on the wall. Yeah is awesome.

34:20.54

mikebledsoe

Um, did you ever watch ah was it icarus the documentary on the russians doping program. It's really good. It's really good. You should check it out. It's on Netflix. So.

34:29.57

Max Shank

Now sounds amazing.

34:38.22

mikebledsoe

So I look at this and I and I look around in the United States and I'm I'm thinking I mean you and I both have been trying to help these people you know, get their shit together and there's a lot of people that need to get their shit together or it would would it be better for the rest of us if they got their shit together.

34:56.73

Max Shank

Who are we talking about now just people.

34:57.23

mikebledsoe

And um, you know if they did something you know people who think that they're doing their duty by getting a vaccine instead of just taking care of their health. Overall so a lot of fats. There's a lot of slobs getting ah vaccinations instead of just.

35:03.77

Max Shank

Oh shots fired folks to totally.

35:17.10

mikebledsoe

Creating some type of interest about their overall health or learning about how their body works. So.

35:20.26

Max Shank

Yo that that's a shocking funny thing I mean it's tragic also like I never hear I got to get this out though I never hear ads anywhere but I clicked on the radio because I didn't have my like. Ah, phone on Bluetooth It's it when it whatever I'm listening to the radio.

35:38.42

mikebledsoe

He's poor folks easy listening radio.

35:42.69

Max Shank

Ah, and I heard like a fucking a fucking jingle like a little jingle song about how you should get your kids this shot and it's like yo what the fuck I'm I'm just I'm listening to this I'm like are you fucking kidding me. Like how how is this it it sounded like I was listening to mother Goose Barney on sesame street talking about how you should you know fucking inject your None ar old with this experiment for for what the fuck and. Bet a lot of people do that and that thought made me really sad that thought made me really sad because I was like what no don't and and I realize that is what's happening.

36:24.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

36:31.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah, was I think they created laws where like um, serial companies can't make can't target kids with like cartoon advertising. They basically can't advertise sugar cereal to kids anymore.

36:45.97

Max Shank

Yep.

36:50.65

mikebledsoe

But they're doing it with pharmaceuticals which is fucking insane.

36:52.98

Max Shank

Why can we advertise pharmaceutical I mean I'm a hardcore capitalist when I get right down to it. But Jesus Christ like that. But then again, then again you I still have that strong belief that the customer is always right? So it's not too. Ah. Like fight against these companies. It's to illuminate and like help people understand how to apply some logic and I think a big part of it actually relates back to the openness that you and I were talking about you have to be open to not know what's going on to be. To be wrong and you have to be open to the idea that the people who are in charge of both countries and companies may not in fact, be having your best interest at heart. So you got to use your critical thinking a little bit.

37:48.93

mikebledsoe

It's the only thing you have that's gonna that's gonna help you out like you can't rely on other people. Um well going to like ah I'm with you on the whole like you know both by the us being capitalists and that we believe in. Voluntary interaction between individuals and that means if someone is going to create and make a drug then I have every right to purchase that from them and there's no one has the right to get between the None of us on creating that transaction and here's the thing is with the. Pharmaceutical companies in the us. Yes, ah the us and New Zealand I think are the only None countries that allow pharmaceutical companies to advertise at a citizens through media and the rest of the countries don't but here's the thing is not only have they allowed that to happen. Which I think that people should be able to run an ad for anything they want ah but they have also cornered the market. There's an entire agency from the government called the Dea who harass people who are and kill and and jail people.

38:47.82

Max Shank

Agreed agreed.

39:01.64

mikebledsoe

Who are selling drugs that they don't think should be sold and so you have an entire agency that their job is to squash out anything. That's not the pharmaceutical companies. So the pharmaceutical companies have leveraged the violence of government. While also creating deals to be able to market. So. It's a double whammy if you were to say okay, we're going to open up the entire market and everyone can advertise like if I want to advertise my cocaine if I want to advertise whatever it is you know or Lipitor or whatever it is. And that would actually cause people at least should cause people to to activate their critical thinking because now they have to go? Well, what's the difference between these two things and ah. Because right now they think the difference between those 2 things is None is safe and None is not safe and it's not safe or safe based on what somebody else thinks so they don't even think about they don't even think to do the research on it and so there's um so going to. Should people be able to advertise I say yes and we should do away with some people getting preferential treatment from the government that that is giving some people more rights than others.

40:27.39

Max Shank

Agreed and here's how I'm gonna tie it back to what we were discussing about openness and relationships and your experience. So there's this concept of nonviolent communication right? where you're not um.

40:42.55

mikebledsoe

In.

40:46.64

Max Shank

You're not an opponent.. You're a collaborator and in a country or a nation or a state of some kind. Ah they have a system of laws and the law is basically when the violence comes out. So imagine if you're in a relationship. And you have to use the threat of violence to control this party all the time that it's basically like the more you have to use the stick the more fucked you basically are you really shouldn't have to enforce. That many things with violence but ah, nothing is more effective. Certainly imagine if like every discussion you got into with a romantic partner. You were like blah blah blah.

41:34.21

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

41:43.48

Max Shank

Or I'll fucking beat you Yo I've never hit a woman unless she asked me to however, ah, there's like I would win easy in a in a in a fight. Of some kind if that was possible to just be like hey I say this goes or I will beat you like of course if you don't have any critical thinking. You'll just do that every time but it's pretty asshole move. But that's what law is it's like fucking do this or.

42:17.38

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

42:21.47

Max Shank

We will Imprison you or kill you or what the fuck ever and the irony is that it's all of the people who hide away from society the most who are voting the people in to control the people that they're. Afraid of because they're a little too free right? ooh that person might do a bad thing. We need more drugs off the streets. They got to stop with those violent video games. It's like fucking busybodies across the board. But ah you, um, you mentioned a good.

42:40.31

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

42:58.20

Max Shank

Ah, tonic for that realization which is to recognize that there's there's really no such thing as law. It's just consequences right? You do whatever you want? You know you're 100% free to do what you want all the time and there are just consequences right? I find that.

43:14.54

mikebledsoe

Yeah, like.

43:17.71

Max Shank

Find that a very ah, comfortable way to live and it's also very accepting too because then you go everyone else is always free to do as they like and talk about the burden. That's off your shoulders because look these people these busybodies These are not happy people.

43:35.29

mikebledsoe

Now.

43:37.17

Max Shank

These might be the most ah mentally ah tortured people ever because they have all this attention. They have no action within their own lives and they're just trying to gain control by leveraging the violence. Of a more powerful entity right? So They're not powerful themselves. They're just trying to diminish everyone else because they're always afraid that someone might do something that that's not a happy person. That's that's no way to go. You know we got Avoidance. We got exposure right.

44:08.57

mikebledsoe

Okay, now.

44:16.98

Max Shank

Avoidance is a path that only leads you to an underground bunker where you are in complete control of the environment. But also you're completely trapped complete exposure is you just have no discernment so you probably walk off of a cliff or get eaten by a tiger or what the fuck ever. But. Um I think part of what makes the slobs or the weak people is they engage in a little too much avoidance and not enough exposure.

44:44.97

mikebledsoe

Yeah, agree.

44:51.78

mikebledsoe

Out of thought that I lost but it'll come now we talked about um, rejection or acceptance tolerant. Yeah.

44:54.27

Max Shank

Is it about openness and acceptance we talked about that last week right the difference between tolerance. Yeah I mean it's this is a perfect example of that.

45:09.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah I.

45:18.82

Max Shank

Comes come.

45:19.49

mikebledsoe

This this cuts out the pauses. That's okay, if we pause.

45:25.12

Max Shank

In my normal life I do way more and longer pauses than on a podcast.

45:33.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

45:38.96

Max Shank

Also have a different agenda.

45:50.20

Max Shank

So what did you learn from your experience the one you were telling me about. Yeah.

45:53.33

mikebledsoe

Which one with my lady. Um I learned a lot I learned that you know we we we we. Did a question prompt which was tell me a story I wrote it up on a chalkboard tell me a story about a time you felt fulfilled and then just kept asking each other about stories of fulfillment and looking for patterns and so.

46:22.51

Max Shank

Oh.

46:28.61

Max Shank

Ah.

46:31.46

mikebledsoe

Um, was like oh okay I see a pattern of fulfillment for myself I see a pattern of fulfillment for her. It's like okay if we want to experience more fulfillment moving forward. We should probably do things that are similar to what made us fulfilled in the past and.

46:47.95

Max Shank

A.

46:50.54

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's definitely patterns of that that was that was really cool to dive into you don't have to take anything to answer these questions or journal about that. But um, it does help and so that was really really beautiful.

46:58.46

Max Shank

A.

47:07.76

mikebledsoe

None of the things I want to I want to cut back over to is my concern and ah, we're kind of jumping back and forth. But my concern is we have ah an entire country of people who. Can't agree on a single narrative or even 2 or 3 narratives and then you have countries like Russia and China who have that single narrative and even though we may be because society progresses and as the pendulum swings between organization and chaos.

47:42.21

Max Shank

Boom.

47:44.24

mikebledsoe

Definitely in a chaotic place and when we're experiencing chaos. It's a great time for someone else who's experiencing organization to take advantage of the people who are in chaos. So that's my one concern is even though we're we are advancing. We are weak during the advancement and um, you know when I heard the news that China Cut Off Communications I was like ah you know I've never seen the country more divided what a what a perfect time to.

48:14.98

Max Shank

Oh.

48:20.50

mikebledsoe

To pull out more tricks.

48:21.19

Max Shank

So when you say concern. Ah, that's like ah low grade fear perhaps of something specific ah happening because of that lack of open and ah.

48:40.71

mikebledsoe

Yeah, absolutely got it? Yeah yeah, yeah.

48:41.80

Max Shank

Congruent communication. So you're concerned maybe about like war. Yeah yeah, War is not that Cool. You know how earlier I was like really anti-school Shootings I'm also very anti-war. I Know it's a bold stance to take.

49:03.89

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, Wars Funny man. It's just um, people just not getting along people people wanting to rule over ah over other people is what it comes down to.

49:16.50

Max Shank

You know one of the one of the most consistent thoughts I've had is like you know when you're a kid at least in my experience when you're a kid and you see None people fighting and you know there's no need for them to be fighting. Like you have this perspective where them fighting is retarded. It's stupid. There's no need for it. You know you have this unique perspective where you can see what each of them want but neither of them can see what they want. Like they're just blinded in this like cloud of dust and one of the most prevailing thoughts I've had as an adult has been this. This is just ah, a failure to communicate everybody needs to just settle down like relax. We all want basically the same thing but it's it's so surprising. That's the most lasting idea it just seems so unnecessary for people to speak to each other with such venom and it seems like. All these disagreements are basically manufactured. Um, yeah, it's ah I used to get really sad about that honestly and now I I kind of like that. Ah, that quote that ends up. Where you try to change your nation realize you can't try to change your city realize you can't try to change your family realize you can't try to change yourself and you're like man if only I'd done this sooner. It would have had that ricochet effect on out and ah. Mentioned in the past how the the distance between your zone of awareness and zone of control is like your feeling of powerlessness. So if you're aware of like a thousand problems globally which is like I don't know whatever. Twenty Thousand Miles Pi are cubed or squared or some shit like that I don't fucking know I don't I don't remember surface area of a sphere right now but your control area is very small. It's like five feet versus you know. None of Square Miles

51:45.30

mikebledsoe

Totally I've um, I've been experiencing like the the most grounded groundedness I've had in my entire life the last year and a half I just get more and more grounded and one of the results of getting more and more grounded is. Getting much more in touch with that reality of the only thing I can change is me and ah mikeness. Yeah, yeah, well because before I was had some grandiose thoughts about how I could make a.

52:04.85

Max Shank

Of this.

52:13.78

Max Shank

It's an it's a type of accept acceptance I think.

52:23.55

mikebledsoe

You know, a really big impact by you know, being really influential and and you know having a lot of followers or whatever. Yeah, like I know what to do.

52:30.88

Max Shank

I'll fix it I'll fix it. That was what I thought I'll I'll fix it and then ah I'm like I'm like just like those ah fucking grandiose big chair guys. It's like the same thing I Just don't want a big chair I'll fix it I'll fix it.

52:40.86

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, just do what I tell you to do ah so fuck your ideas. So you know I um I just got become less and less concerned.

52:47.54

Max Shank

Yeah.

53:00.12

mikebledsoe

I keep up with what's going on I don't let it dominate my my thinking you know it's 1 thing to have awareness or to learn of what's going on around the world. It's another thing that dwell on it. Um, and I become much more focused on what I can impact immediately like you know how.

53:03.76

Max Shank

So.

53:20.20

mikebledsoe

Comfortable Can I make my home. That's a sanctuary instead of you know, trying to worry about like I don't care if I drive a fancy car I need where I spend the most time at my home people come to my home people come to my home and they go Wow this.

53:22.79

Max Shank

Ah.

53:29.29

Max Shank

Right? You got different values.

53:39.45

mikebledsoe

Place is really nice and comfortable. It's not It's not a big expensive home. It's ah it's a moderate home. It's a middle class home. Ah, but it's not but we've created a vibe inside that just. Very welcoming and peaceful and calm and so Ashley and I when we go out in the world. We we have this calmness and peacefulness about us and people they want to know how we do things and you know we get really strong reflections about us. And the thing is neither one of us are going out to try to teach people how to be much I mean this is about the extent of it right? Ah put a band man. Yeah there you go.

54:21.53

Max Shank

What is a good man but a bad man's Teacher. What is a bad man but a good man's job.

54:32.36

mikebledsoe

Ah, so you know the the thing that I keep circling ah since becoming more grounded is really the idea of leading. By example, if I'm not if I'm not happy with how other people are behaving then who I want.

54:45.84

Max Shank

5

54:51.40

mikebledsoe

Everyone else to be I have not fully embodied myself in a way that it's noticeable or I haven't done it long enough or repeated the behavior enough for people to take note or the benefits of taking those behaviors I haven't been doing it enough in order for people to take note but I'll tell you. That the majority of benefit that I that I think I have helped people achieve has been through modeling and because people learn through modeling they create their desires are created because of modeling and and.

55:25.57

Max Shank

Absolutely.

55:29.40

mikebledsoe

For me to think that I said something in particular to get somebody to a specific goal is that is incorrect. You know if I if I wasn't living my life a certain way. People wouldn't give a shit about the words that I was using and in fact, they're probably modeling.

55:38.91

Max Shank

On.

55:48.47

mikebledsoe

A lot of my behavior but are giving credit to the words that I use because people people want. That's the logical things like oh I heard this thing and then I put it in place and now that's logical. But I think.

55:55.16

Max Shank

Ah, well, you're.

56:03.60

Max Shank

I fixed it I fixed it and what it's what's funny is by being a model you unburden yourself of the responsibility of getting them to behave a certain way and you're not burdening them with a fucking command.

56:05.74

mikebledsoe

Most who are learning through modeling.

56:17.29

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

56:23.29

Max Shank

So You are completely unburdened. Ah because you're not trying to force them to be a certain way or manipulate them to be a certain way. People think the word manipulate has a lot of a negative connotation and it does but really, that's all we do. Is we manipulate the world and people for our benefit and sometimes for others.

56:41.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think well I had a conversation with a woman yesterday about this. She was talking about manipulation I was like well I like to create the distinction between influence and manipulation and ah in it with influence I am I am.

56:50.23

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

57:00.75

mikebledsoe

Making somebody else more informed about something so that they can make a better choice for themselves. Manipulation is I'm likely trying to make them less informed or confuse them in a way so that they'll do do the behavior I'll do not because they have ah a greater understanding.

57:04.25

Max Shank

The.

57:20.37

mikebledsoe

So that's yeah, so it's like instead of thinking about it as just like a spectrum of manipulation and say no manipulation is this thing and influences this thing they're very different in my mind So when I'm approaching people. The question I have to ask myself is you know.

57:20.83

Max Shank

It's like fraud. Yeah.

57:31.10

Max Shank

Yeah, yeah.

57:38.41

mikebledsoe

If you're if you're going out and you're going to talk to a girl are you are you practicing influence on the date or are you manipulating And yeah, that wasn't for you that wasn't for you. Um.

57:45.79

Max Shank

Manipulating for sure I mean wait wait that was oh that was a rhetorical question. Got it? Yeah oh got it I mean I.

57:53.95

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but I mean this happens a lot and like people talk about marketing and they're like they're like oh marketing is so manipulative I'm like well what kind of marketing are you doing? Are you.

58:04.31

Max Shank

That's why I bring up machiavelli do the ends justify the means if you believe in a product this is an easy argument to make if you believe in a product you should be willing to say anything to sell as many as possible. That's one way of looking at it so you could totally. Ah. Forgive psychologically ah any kind of what might be considered a dirty tactic but I want to ah touch on something None things actually before we move on 1 one of the things that is taken away one of the burdens that's relieved by just being the example. Is. You're not lusting after your own acceptance I'm gonna say that again. So you're not lusting after your own acceptance because what you're doing is you are looking to have someone say you fixed it or you did it. Or whatever. So instead of lusting after that now that desire's gone and if you look at it from a zen buddhist ah framework that desire being gone is going to bring you a lot more peace and a lot more clarity and a lot more flow. You're not going to feel that burden like. Oh I got to I got to like remind myself that I'm good by helping this guy and then another thing you said, um, that was related to being the example and you said it to me like ah.

59:23.62

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

59:36.73

Max Shank

It was at your house out here. It was a long time ago. It was like maybe five to seven years ago and yeah, he's been enlightened for a long time. Ah you you it was just about it just was one of those times where I was very receptive and I listened and i.

59:43.17

mikebledsoe

I've been enlightened for a while. All.

59:53.98

Max Shank

Started putting it into practice. A lot was I stopped listening as much to what people were saying and more focused on how they were being and now what I'll do sometimes is I'll I'll just try to listen to the noise that someone's making and look at their posture.

01:00:10.37

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:00:11.72

Max Shank

And I'll try to look beyond the words and see do they go up and down and up and down with their talk and ah du and is their music ah did and you see how the how that flow is kind of coming out. Ah it's It's really interesting to see how people are being. Ah. Because I think that's actually a lot more honest than what that because people are very tricky like have you ever Seen. Ah a really good actor fucking say any word combination and their expression on their face will trick the shit out of me my god.

01:00:46.28

mikebledsoe

That it's insane. Insane. Oh yeah, the the tonality thing is interesting. So your time about body language. Um, you know if somebody has really poor posture hunched over. Um I start I start.

01:00:49.99

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:00:56.98

Max Shank

And.

01:01:04.88

mikebledsoe

Noticing when they're more hunched or more open which may be rare that they're open. But oh wow they they don't feel safe or they have a history of not feeling safe and they just haven't had the physical restoration of their body. Um.

01:01:06.16

Max Shank

O m.

01:01:14.94

Max Shank

The.

01:01:23.46

mikebledsoe

It' not like like whatever is happening energetically takes a lot longer to manifest physically. And yeah me too.

01:01:29.28

Max Shank

I Used to cross my arms all the time all the time all the time and I would do that thing where you flex your knuckles into your arms from the from the back so that ah your biceps look a little bigger and your little forearm. Extensor muscles look bigger so you get these? Ah, It's like the standard personal trainer photo and I look back at I look back at all these photos I took and every single one I've got like fucking sunglasses ah under armor ah shirt that's skin tight. And my arms are crossed and I'm like that guy doesn't want anyone to know who he is that guy So now I'm super sensitive to it I notice when I see people cross their arms I think it's a really funky posture the the arm crop. Yeah.

01:02:10.62

mikebledsoe

Be yeah, exactly just.

01:02:23.65

mikebledsoe

We're putting the hands in pockets too.

01:02:27.00

Max Shank

What what do you do with your hands though. You can't just be like Ricky Bobby like I don't know what to do with them.

01:02:31.45

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's something about and there's a military thing. There's no hands in the pockets. Um, and what I noticed from years of not hanging out with hands in my pockets is. There's.

01:02:37.26

Max Shank

Yeah, yeah, 1

01:02:47.69

mikebledsoe

Hands in the pockets is a really safe place to put your hands when you're insecure about like having a more open posture. It's like it's like halfway open and yeah it is kind of strange sometimes I I have to find things to do with my hands every once in a while I'll let myself put my hands into my pocket.

01:02:56.22

Max Shank

Yeah, interesting.

01:03:06.46

mikebledsoe

Only when I know that um you know it's not coming from a place of insecurity. It's like I'm hanging out my friends I just feel like putting my hands in my pocket I'm gonna fucking do it but it it is something that I was I overdid until I couldn't do it anymore and then that's when I recognized oh this is something that.

01:03:10.34

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:03:20.31

Max Shank

What.

01:03:26.63

mikebledsoe

It's a safety you know it's my safety blanket to put my hands in my pockets and kind of hard to be ready for shit when your hands in the pockets when you want to you want to be running down the road.

01:03:30.20

Max Shank

That kind of curiosity Impossible I mean unless you got something good in there then it's even better.

01:03:41.66

mikebledsoe

Running down the road with your hands in your pockets. That's that's when people knock their teeth out. No.

01:03:42.17

Max Shank

Oh yeah, yeah, that's not good, but if you got something interesting in your pocket and could be a great spot. Hey now. Um, yeah I think.

01:03:50.27

mikebledsoe

I've always got some interesting in there. So.

01:03:58.80

Max Shank

The curiosity we're talking about about posture I mean look it's no, It's no mystery that you and I are are nerds about things like this about communication about the way the body moves about integrating the body mind heart The rest of them Chakras and so. I Think that's one of those things that can accelerate that openness if you so curiosity is such a ah powerful force of moving into the Unknown. It's the difference between the unknown being scary and the unknown being exciting. And interesting. It's like an a curious is an opportunity forward right? It's the exact opposite of fear right? which is like ah a threat an unknown threat oncoming versus an unknown opportunity oncoming. And we're talking about using different medicines to do that. The other option is to be extremely invested into what you and I are talking about. So I Think that's one of the things that is attractive about using different medicines like I'm. I'm ah experimenting with some puppy medicine right now I have a feeling it's going to ah increase openness probably patience Positivity Ah love Perhaps I I don't know yet. It'll be really interesting to see how that. Changes my paradigm but I think that's really the the pull of those different medicines psychedelics. Whatever cocktail you and your witch doctor can concoct um, is because it can. Increase your connection and alleviate burdens very quickly. It's like you can either get high by doing breathing exercises and going for a run or you can get high by smoking some cannabis or crack or something like that. You know there are a lot of there are a lot of ways to do it. Sometimes you just have something That's a little more push button so to speak and short term. Well but the effects are long term a lot of the time I mean the walls aren't melting forever.

01:06:12.79

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and short term. Totally totally if done well now that would be terrible.

01:06:26.20

Max Shank

Thankfully, but but you get the you get the alleviation of some of that that guard that dropping of the guard and openness is what allows you to. See some of the filters that you've put on kind of coming back to the stories like I feel sad when I talk to people and I see them hardcore into one narrative or the other because you know, um, there's basically nothing you can say that will resolve that and I I Think. Can pick up on queues and I know a lot of weird facts. But ah once someone's locked into a narrative like that. It's very tricky to get out unless they themselves are getting curious and then you have a chance to take away some of those layers but I think sometimes.

01:07:15.54

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:07:22.89

Max Shank

Using those substances can sort of accelerate that process.

01:07:25.50

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, it causes a can cause a pattern interrupt I think most people that they're in a pattern that whatever narrative they're in is a pattern of thinking feeling behaving and most people no matter how much. Information may be counter to you know this being a good idea or or whatever they can't seem to break it until there's a pattern interrupt you know, somebody somebody ends up with heart disease or cancer or something like that like wakes some of its pattern interrupt is like oh I can't keep eating the banas.

01:08:00.40

Max Shank

Car accident for my mom car accident changed her life. She wasn't injured the car was totaled but ah the whole trajectory of her life changed and she was in her fifty s I mean she was already like a fully baked human so to speak.

01:08:04.25

mikebledsoe

Car accident. Yeah.

01:08:12.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, so as it it.

01:08:19.90

Max Shank

So anything that changes. It's kind of like the only absolute is relativity so you and I our stories are just in relation to everything that we understand so we're like part of a ah net and um so I think we're like None musical note. And when you get together with ah lsd you strike a different chord than if you do heroin and if you hang out with puppies or if you drink coffee like I I drink coffee basically daily um some sometimes I'll skip for like a week or something like that. But I've been pretty. Hot on coffee for at least like six months now and I I enjoy it It's just a different ah chord. You know I'm a note coffee's a note boom play them at the same time. That's this different type of resonance and everybody needs and likes different things like these two puppies. Different personalities. None person should have coffee None person should probably do a microdose mushrooms or something like that. There's not a one size fits all for everybody which is also why those ah dictatorships inevitably piss off so many people. Because not everybody wants the same sized solution right.

01:09:36.58

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:09:40.82

Max Shank

Who So here's what I'm thinking I think we want to do a show about ah all the stuff that we like and I want to do a show called unfair advantages.

01:09:42.14

mikebledsoe

And we should wrap this up.

01:09:54.23

mikebledsoe

I Think we were talking about that last show and I forgot that unfair advantages and what else.

01:09:58.97

Max Shank

I'm all about it it like man. It's totally unfair. Ah just a show about stuff We like we. We just only talk about stuff we like I would love it.

01:10:07.89

mikebledsoe

Ah I think people would actually love that I think that would be. There's so many things that I love that I want to share with people that sometimes I'll share something I love and they're like oh man. Um, and I realized I wish I could have gotten this information to this person sooner or so many things.

01:10:16.40

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:10:24.38

Max Shank

Totally yeah, all right? Yeah so I think that'll be good ah man that was fun. What are what's what's our take home message today really curiosity openness.

01:10:27.24

mikebledsoe

Yeah, all right I'll make a list I Like that idea.

01:10:39.80

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah I think there's ah, there's a thread of communication and violence and the better we can communicate the the less we may experience violence there was a term that you were discussing which is. You know, releasing the burden and the phrase that came to my mind was unburdened leadership so leading by example is an unburdened way of being a leader and I think I'll name a show that and so so how do you be a leader without feeling all that burden.

01:11:04.10

Max Shank

Um, who I like it right.

01:11:18.85

mikebledsoe

Just lead by example and mind your own business seems pretty pretty easy. So those are my big takeaways from today's show

01:11:20.55

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:11:26.73

Max Shank

Yeah, and get curious about why you might be holding onto the rein so tight like like follow it down with the five Y's like why am I trying to control so hard on this ah closedness it was something I examined myself with dogs. Um.

01:11:40.29

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah.

01:11:46.69

Max Shank

Like I had I had always resisted it super heavy and I was like well why? what? What am I really afraid of here and is ah it's good curiosity and unburdened leadership I think are yeah, that's good if you can do that Honestly, you'd be.

01:11:53.82

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:12:03.77

Max Shank

Way better off and then Mike and I can feel good because we will have helped you and the ricochets will carry em off through our entire society and then we will finally be good. So thank you guys for listening. Love you guys! Love you Mike bye.

01:12:23.35

mikebledsoe

Legit. Love you Max Talk later.

Aug 4, 2022

John Beneduce is no stranger to adversity & challenges. In fact, he actively seeks them out as he knows how important they are in helping him grow

 

It’s safe to say society is “prepping us to fight”. And if so, this man is one of the best to learn from

Aug 1, 2022

00:00.33

mikebledsoe

Yes, I was just writing I was doing my books waiting on that max here and.

00:01.00

Max Shank

Oh.

00:07.77

Max Shank

We were just saying. It's nothing like a ah novel. It's nothing like a ah book. But that's how it all really began was we wanted to write down that you owe me 10 goats and I owe you. My daughter's hand in marriage when she comes of age or something like that right? it's it's Contracts. It's contracts. Basically I O use.

00:25.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah I remember. Ah yeah, it's a recording of of transactions so recording of contracts agreements the I remember um watching my.

00:42.30

Max Shank

It's like the word record you record a record.

00:44.30

mikebledsoe

yeah yeah I remember watching my dad do the books for his business back in like you know the 80 s and 90 s you know I wasn't I wasn't aware enough to know what he was doing until probably the early 90 s but ah.

00:49.82

Max Shank

Yeah. E.

01:03.41

mikebledsoe

Yeah I just remember him like having an actual book of things and and writing in the ledger where the money went and this not I Just remember like that was the most frustrated I ever saw him like.

01:11.51

Max Shank

Oh.

01:18.76

Max Shank

Is.

01:20.69

mikebledsoe

Like the guy. The guy's a craftsman right? He he was a craftsman and so like ah he was a builder like he did a lot of ah home improvements but also built these really amazing cabins from scratch and yeah.

01:24.29

Max Shank

What craft.

01:36.18

Max Shank

No shit building a cabin from scratch is like a really cool thing I think now that's what I think is cool now I think that is cool now I used to think lifting something really really big over your head was super cool.

01:39.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so he was.

01:43.13

mikebledsoe

Totally.

01:52.25

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah.

01:55.28

Max Shank

And it still kind of is but now making your own cabin from scratch that is fricking cool.

02:01.27

mikebledsoe

Well, it's interesting because you know he was so gifted at that and then because he wanted to do things the way he wanted to do them meant that he was going to own his own business which then came with all these other ah requirements. Ah, for.

02:18.27

Max Shank

Who.

02:20.53

mikebledsoe

To do that because and really the only reason is required is because you have to pay taxes. Other than that you you wouldn't actually have to maintain books. It'd probably be beneficial to maintain books to maintain a ah record of of your transactions and all that stuff.

02:31.97

Max Shank

Yeah.

02:37.60

mikebledsoe

But I think a guy like that would have done better just to have been winging it the whole time and put more of his attention into what he was actually skilled at.

02:45.24

Max Shank

Man that speaks so much to me because we could talk about this probably all day right? where these different personality types crazy thrive in one way and then really struggle in another way and it's like how do you. Compound and multiply your zone of Genius while minimizing the damage of one of these let's just call it a ah deficit or or just like a ah simple lack of desire to do you know back in the day if if you went out on the hunt.

03:15.51

mikebledsoe

Um, what.

03:22.60

Max Shank

Crafting is like a version of hunting or gathering kind of you can make that that leap it's about energy transformation and generation. Ah, there was no need to really keep a record because you either came home with food or you did not. There's no like little book. Oh I can.

03:35.72

mikebledsoe

Right.

03:41.83

Max Shank

Didn't get food again today. It's like no, we all know.

03:43.47

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think the only like thinking ahead that people had to do early on was if you lived up North you had to think about the seasons changing but aside from that you know if the the closer you move to the equator the less.

03:53.97

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

04:01.48

mikebledsoe

You really have to keep a record or think about much of the past or the future. It really is about. Did you bring home a kill today or did you find some food today or are we warm. Are we comfortable today? Yeah, so yeah, the um I you know what I I find to be interesting is.

04:10.29

Max Shank

Right.

04:21.38

mikebledsoe

I avoided doing the books in my business I avoided doing bookkeeping anything with finance at all and so ah, a little over a year ago I decided to I was talking to a friend I was talking to a friend like two and a half years ago and he was like well.

04:27.48

Max Shank

It. Ah.

04:40.29

mikebledsoe

You know you've never done your books I go no he goes you should probably do your books at some point just so you you know what's happening in the business like at a very granular level and I go I go. Okay, he goes I Still do my books and he's he runs multiple companies and.

04:47.89

Max Shank

I.

04:58.20

mikebledsoe

This and that definitely a different personality than I am right? but but he was right. There was a there was a there was something about the business I didn't quite understand yes I could get by without it I didn't need to do it. But if I rip.

05:00.86

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

05:09.86

Max Shank

Um, well, you're a star Mike you can make it you can make it work even if it's not a good plan and I can relate.

05:23.74

mikebledsoe

It's how you broke up for a None

05:24.72

Max Shank

Oh you can make a good plan Work. You can make a bad plan work. Ah, just because you have those skills and I can super relate to that and when you're ah less wise you trick yourself into thinking. That you had a good plan but really, you had a shit plan and you just happened to pull a miracle out of your ass.

05:48.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's a pattern of behavior if you were to look back that the ah and it it is. It's like my whole family The ah the whole family. There was a saying growing up was like a ble so could fall into a pile of shit and still smell like a rose.

05:57.65

Max Shank

But.

06:08.40

mikebledsoe

like like 1 of those like we would put ourselves in these predicaments. But somehow we'd fucking escape. Yeah yeah, and it was kind of like a running joke. But the the thing is is when that is true when that's happened enough times. It starts.

06:14.20

Max Shank

Find the shower. Yeah.

06:22.76

Max Shank

Oh.

06:27.66

mikebledsoe

It's It's hard to make planning important when not planning you still get pretty good Results. Maybe not the ultimate result you're looking for but pretty good results and I think most people have ah they have developed some type. Of something in their personality ah patterns of behavior in their life where they have continued to get a reward and so that's why they keep behaving that way even though there might be some people saying hey you might want to try it this other way. It's like why would I listen to somebody suggesting to do it another way unless my weight. Hasn't been working but what happens is as we get to a certain point that has happened with me. It's like I keep butting up against the same ceiling right? It's like oh every time I try to make more than this amount of money I hit the ceiling every time I do this I hit a ceiling and or every time I have a certain goal I hit a ceiling in the in.

07:17.28

Max Shank

Oh.

07:22.65

Max Shank

On.

07:27.70

mikebledsoe

Reason is because the thing that got me to where I am now is probably the thing that's going to hold me back moving forward and I'm ah I'm a huge fan of of ah knowing your weaknesses and studying it.

07:33.46

Max Shank

Interesting idea.

07:46.19

mikebledsoe

A little bit just so you know what you don't know like I I do I learn enough about finance so that I know how to I can at least spot the Bs I can tell if somebody else knows what they're talking about. But if I don't know anything about it and I just straight up delegate it Out. I I think that's dangerous because I've done that before and gotten burned. How about you have you had like business partnerships and stuff like that where like not necessarily because somebody burned you. But.

08:12.67

Max Shank

Um, like you repeat that you you receive you repeat the same pattern is that what you're asking or.

08:18.90

mikebledsoe

No, no, no like if you don't know enough about a task that you have not developed yourself and say you completely outsource that task That's that's a problem.

08:29.86

Max Shank

Oh yeah, yeah, you put something you put something outside of your observation and and it leaves you vulnerable in in several ways I know at Discount Tire They don't promote anyone from the outside. It's only from the um.

08:47.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um.

08:49.31

Max Shank

The bottom up the whole thing and it's all about knowing every part of the process. Ah dude, you've said so many things that I want to respond to I took a couple notes here and the first one was ah in relation to the the bookkeeping. It's like.

09:01.15

mikebledsoe

You.

09:07.88

Max Shank

Reminded me immediately of the word intuitive eating and intuitive movement. So now we have intu intuitive finances. Ah here here on our show. We do intuitive finance is a new course coming out featuring ah featuring ah the.

09:19.79

mikebledsoe

Let me go see if that domain's available.

09:26.96

Max Shank

The crypto prince Mike Bledso and the ah the dinosaur.

09:29.82

mikebledsoe

Um, there's like so many domains I have to buy right now just spitting them out. Yeah.

09:35.97

Max Shank

Totally all right? So check it, you have intuitive eating and intuitive movement people are probably familiar with those terms but None of the things I was talking with my buddy about ah we're like man how are you shouldn't do. Intuitive eating if you suck like if you don't have knowledge and skills like intuitive eating is for sure the best way I would I mean it's a bold claim intuitive eating can be wonderful but you but also you need to have.

10:05.30

mikebledsoe

Well, you have to be in touch with your intuition for it to work for 1

10:14.61

Max Shank

Some understanding of what is in the food like you can't if you go on just like pure ah like gut reaction. You're just going to eat ah like chips and soda pop all day long because it's delicious. So with finances you dig into the books a little bit.

10:17.74

mikebledsoe

By the way.

10:34.52

Max Shank

Now you might have a chance to approach something. That's a little bit more intuitive because now you have that vocabulary that ah understanding of the elements right? So that was the None thing I thought of um, it made me laugh.

10:50.14

mikebledsoe

Let's you got to have this structure. You have to have this structure in order to flow and like an intuition and flow go hand in hand. Yeah, exactly.

10:55.40

Max Shank

Right? We're talking about that last week right we were talking about that last week. The pipes are the structure and it harnesses the flow in the direction you want it to go ah and then the other thing that was interesting. We were talking about how? ah. A good outcome doesn't mean you had a good plan and if you're a super achiever guy. You can basically make a bad plan work and you don't want to conflate those 2 you don't want to confuse those things and think oh my plan was good. Really no, you're a stud but your plan sucks and so that's kind of. Looking at those weaknesses and then finally um, the the the identity perpetuating patterns is a funny one to me like if you ah I don't I don't know if this is true. It feels kind of true to me. But if you pride yourself and you label yourself as someone who's extremely tough who can take a lot of punishment and get back up every time they fall down. I have this idea that life is going to feed you more of that. What do you What do you think about that your identity perpetuating your reality.

12:15.37

mikebledsoe

Um, oh yeah, absolutely the? Ah ah well what we have to talk about the reticular activating system in this case and ah the RAS as a part of the brain.

12:27.38

Max Shank

Save the 10 dollars words for another podcast you son of a bitch.

12:34.80

mikebledsoe

Is responsible for so spotting things. So for instance, um, if I go buy a red pickup truck. What am I going to see a lot of on the road red pickup truck. We all know this we've all heard you know and we've all had the experience of.

12:35.99

Max Shank

Fucking nerd.

12:45.98

Max Shank

You.

12:52.32

mikebledsoe

We become interested in something and then all of a sudden we we start seeing it everywhere and we see it's a sign. Um and and so ah, the same thing happens with identity. If we believe something about ourselves and I like the way you talk about identity max which is you know the story we tell ourselves about ourselves if we that is our identity and we have this story about what is true I also like to think about what we believe to be true about ourselves and what we believe to be true about the world. Those are the None big things to have beliefs about right? It's either a belief about self or belief.

13:28.64

Max Shank

Yeah, maybe that's what encompasses your identity right? is your place in the world. Also it's not just the label you attach to yourself. It's um, there's that classic phrase is you know. Life is happening for you. Some people believe and some people believe life happens to you I used to start off asking people questions like ah do you feel Life is more like a game a show or a ride I used to start all my like coaching programs with these weird.

13:47.29

mikebledsoe

Right.

14:07.70

Max Shank

Questions and then I'd ask people what the word intelligent means and people would stumble all over it and have no clue what smart even means and it was just like this fun thing but depending on how you see life if you see life is more like a ride you might have a hell of a wild and awesome ride. But it's going to be different than someone who thinks they are playing a game that they must win right? It's going to be huge difference.

14:27.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, totally yeah, right is passive that it's happening and there's not much I'm going to do um, a game I'm an active participant. It might be great. Ah.

14:36.17

Max Shank

Um, and it might be great. It might be great. The the thing is like I want to I make sure that people understand I'm not trying to say that one is superior although I love games and winning is fun. Winning isn't everything. But it's the only thing right? There's that all like ah but I've I've met people who live life like it's a ride and they they do well and they're very happy and I've seen people who. Live life like a game and it's a real challenge the whole time and it doesn't look as far and vice versa. So There's quadrants you know.

15:19.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well I think the ride I think the ride is a good way to go if you have momentum in a certain direction. There's like because well well what? what? ah.

15:32.12

Max Shank

Everybody's got momentum in a certain direction dude like you the word momentum starts with the word mom. As soon as you get launched out of a vagina there is momentum to you.

15:42.85

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well if you're if you're in a poor trajectory and you're on a ride then it's not a good thing. But if you have if you're going in a great direction with Momentum then the ride is probably really good for you. So.

15:45.53

Max Shank

Your life has momentum as soon as you cross the gate. Yeah.

15:58.64

Max Shank

I Like that we're going to bring it back to physics here. Yeah, we're going to coast a little bit kick push kick push Coast right? I think with when it comes to work which is ah a big part of.

16:05.45

mikebledsoe

Exactly exactly.

16:17.36

Max Shank

Ah, even having any accounting or bookkeeping to do. It's um, it's nice to remember that the suffering that you feel the amount of effort you apply has ah very little to do.

16:35.71

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

16:35.97

Max Shank

With the result you know, ah Momentum and Aerodynamics are a really really nice example of that. So just just having ah a better, a better setup can be. Be a huge difference maker. It doesn't matter how much effort or suffering goes into it I think that's ah, another big identity thing I know for me that was ah that was a challenge I Thought that suffering was proportional to success or or good or goodness right? Um, and I think.

17:08.96

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

17:13.79

Max Shank

A lot of people still do believe that is my guess so like.

17:14.60

mikebledsoe

They do I talk to people who do all time I Want to go back to like the the collecting of evidence for what you believe about the world and what you believe about yourself. So this this identity you know who you believe you are and what you believe the world is and how you fit inside of it.

17:26.34

Max Shank

Oh.

17:33.77

mikebledsoe

You These are all just a series of narratives that are playing out most of these narratives were set up when you were a kid and you what you've been doing the whole time. He's been collecting evidence to support it you ah the that part of your.

17:42.86

Max Shank

I.

17:53.20

mikebledsoe

Brain doesn't go out there looking for things that don't support it. They're going out there look for things that do support it and so you can tell? Yeah, so when you yeah so when you have stacked a lot of time.

18:03.25

Max Shank

Confirmation Bias I think is what that's called think like racism like racism you you get up ah in the morning your parents are racist. They're saying bad things about the neighbors. Maybe you live in a bad area where.

18:14.32

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

18:20.45

Max Shank

All your neighbors are bad white and black and yellow and different colors alike but you only look out like what you were saying with your ah reticular activating system is you look out for those things and not only is it that you see them. Because what you notice is so different than what you see and you just confirm those beliefs over and over again because your vision is crazy small and Selective. You know, kind of going back to the vision Piece. It's a very complex mechanism that. Creates a total illusion inside your brain.

19:02.83

mikebledsoe

There was a I was listening to a podcast by Lex Friedman the other day I forget who shared it with me. Um, but he's he's ah interviewing this like evolutionary physicist I don't know like so some some dude that's they. Is way smarter than either None of us and he was talking about.

19:24.72

Max Shank

Well I resent that clearly you don't know what the word smart means.

19:29.65

mikebledsoe

Ah, this guy. Ah, basically through mathematics is able to demonstrate how our perception is. It's impossible for our perception to match reality. And in fact, it's so far from reality that. Which which isn't not news to you or me but to a lot of people. They they do think that they're noticing some things and then they're perceiving others when in fact, it's None perception that's happening and if we look out through lens of evolution then what we're what we have is. Ah. Ah, ah, the fittest right? It's it's the fittest is what evolves it's not It's not the truth. So the truth does not actually ah doesn't come into play when it comes to survival so whatever you whatever you need to perceive in order to survive. Is how your entire consciousness will develop.

20:33.22

Max Shank

When you say truth What do you mean because I I would agree that what a person sees is dependent on their memory because what they're what they're doing is they're differentiating ah the way a picture is interpreted.

20:50.10

mikebledsoe

And um.

20:52.71

Max Shank

And the picture is just simply about the ah um, the reception of light and we only have a small visible spectrum. So you're talking about the truth being everything versus what is visible to the naked eye. Oh then.

21:08.25

mikebledsoe

That's correct.

21:11.57

Max Shank

Absolutely I mean there's ah there are some great pictures. You can look up on the electromagnetic spectrum That's like a really cool ah thing to check out. Everything is just buzzing around and some of it. We can see and some of it. We can't and some animals.

21:26.57

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and but it's not. It's not necessary. Yeah.

21:30.52

Max Shank

And see ultraviolet and Infrared. It's not Useful. It's really about what is a um I feel like I say it all the time.. It's like what is a predictable Pattern. What is a predictable pattern if you have a really hard turtle shell on your back. It's predictable that. Nothing is going to bite through it as long as you're inside the shell if you're inside a cave and the cave is sealed the the jaguar or the leopard or the line will not get you in the night those kind of things are um.

21:52.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

22:09.88

Max Shank

Stuff that we've learned based on what we've seen but it's not the the whole picture right.

22:13.80

mikebledsoe

No, no. But yeah, so we look for the fact is almost nobody has an accurate understanding of the world or of themselves. Well that.

22:26.49

Max Shank

What do you mean? almost nobody who's this who's this guy that has it all figured out I want to meet this dude and.

22:32.64

mikebledsoe

There's this one guy there's this one guy I think that he may have it figured out but he'll remain nameless.

22:40.97

Max Shank

He's the one he's the 1 standing on the milk crate at the corner of a Columbus and None right? it it is probably someone like that I mean hey yeah, the concept.

22:44.00

mikebledsoe

For sure for sure. He's the fuck crazy fucker lives under the bridge. Well, there's a have you read? the have you read this series by Jed Mckenna okay Jeed Mckenna wrote a ah.

22:57.58

Max Shank

M.

23:00.16

mikebledsoe

Series. The first book is called spiritual enlightenment The damnedest thing and um I used to be really hesitant to even mention it in public. But I've gotten a little bit looser because you know what if you want to destroy your entire ego. You know who am I to stop you So the. This guy. Ah, this guy wrote this book on Enlightenment. He basically outlines how spirituality is actually ah will keep you from being enlightened and really creates a distinction between the 2 And you know that the the deal is you can't explain what enlightenment is because it's something that would only you can only experience once it's you can only experience it and then once you've experienced it. There's no going back to the illusion and.

23:53.90

Max Shank

Well, and once again, what are we trying to describe when we say the word enlightenment so just getting really right? It's ah it's a sign. It's a symbol that we're using to determine like this feeling that we we have this feeling in mind.

23:57.14

mikebledsoe

Was It's indescribable. Well well being well being well being. Well different people. Well a lot of people see it as a feeling but the the way the guy describes it This book is that you only see you you know the absolute truth at all times you're.

24:11.78

Max Shank

Right? and.

24:21.41

Max Shank

Yeah.

24:23.10

mikebledsoe

You stabilize that state of consciousness and um, basically life gets incredibly boring because there's no narratives I mean you can witness narratives but you're not actually participating um in them anymore at all.

24:37.11

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

24:42.64

mikebledsoe

There's nothing to believe about yourself. There's nothing to believe about the world outside of what you can directly validate for yourself through observation and even then the story that tying the the dots together to create a narrative just doesn't exist anymore.

24:59.11

Max Shank

It would be so hard to function with other people if you actually did that it'd be.

25:03.36

mikebledsoe

Well well in the book If you read the book series. You'd really, there's he he's basically documenting conversations and he fucking almost hates having to interact with people. You know it's It's not a you know he basically just sees everybody as little children.

25:15.30

Max Shank

Um, right.

25:21.59

Max Shank

Well that I agree with I mean people are like little children. Um.

25:23.32

mikebledsoe

Well, he gets into that in the book as well. I think you would enjoy the series. Yeah, it's a it's a trilogy. It's it's I chuckled my way through it and it was. It was pretty good. Ah although I.

25:30.36

Max Shank

The series. Okay.

25:40.35

Max Shank

I Feel like.

25:42.47

mikebledsoe

Read it in 2017 at it early Twenty seventeen it ah it did do a number on me totally totally.

25:46.65

Max Shank

Ah, might hit a little different now too. Ah I liked what you said about spirituality getting in the way of enlightenment because when I think of the word enlightenment I Like you know me I like to keep things as simple as possible because I'm not as smart as all these science guys and.

25:55.97

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

26:11.66

Max Shank

When I think of enlightenment I think about just a reduction in in mass. So you're you're reducing So you're trying to literally make yourself lighter. Yeah, it's like I wrote this phrase down that I've always loved. It's like you can only sharpen.

26:20.42

mikebledsoe

It's a destructive process.

26:31.20

Max Shank

By removing material like otherwise it's a different thing but you sharpen something by taking stuff away and ah there are a lot of different analogies in some ancient wisdoms About. You know, don't be sharp like a sword you know, let yourself become dull and plain like a stone in a River and that kind of stuff and I really resonate with that and the more you have to keep up with these stories the the more you are burdened. And so it's like how do you find a way to fully connect which is like flow in that moment without getting attached and you realize every attachment you have is derived from that identity that you have all all the attachments. Are in relation to your identity. It's like a big net where you're the center spoke or maybe a wheel where you're in the center and it's all these relationships with everything else.

27:30.19

mikebledsoe

Well, the way the way that Jed ah he describes it in the book. He's like you know, a lot of people like to think about what you're talking about these these these beliefs that are in our consciousness like I believe they're in this beautiful web. Or a net or something like that he goes the reality is it's a rat's nest. You have no idea what belongs where until you start pulling a thread and and even then you don't know what? Ah every what all it was connected to and um, yeah, so like that that really hit home for me when.

27:59.22

Max Shank

Um, oh yeah.

28:08.74

mikebledsoe

Because I up to that point I was thinking Oh there's this beautiful web and if I pull this part of the web then I'm not really sure what'll happen on this other side of the web but he's like now it's a Rat's nest. It's just as a is a disaster zone inside of people's minds. Oh.

28:17.48

Max Shank

E.

28:23.29

Max Shank

Um, often yeah.

28:27.88

mikebledsoe

Which I find to be accurate because anytime I've worked with people through like a belief and then we watch it dissolve. There's just no way to predict how that's going to impact their life. It's like oh I didn't know it wass going to impact that area of your life in that way. Okay, that was a surprise.

28:43.17

Max Shank

Some people are more attached. Some people are a little some people have a pretty easy time letting stuff go and some people have ah a really hard time or.

28:44.79

mikebledsoe

Some people are more attached.

28:52.64

mikebledsoe

I have um so I have a ah story to share I have a ah mentee I was talking to yesterday and he goes mike do you believe in curses I was like well um, you know. If you're talking about someone putting a curse on you if you believe someone put a curse on you then the only way the curse will work is if you believe that the curse is real if you believe that someone put a curse on you then it weren't like you you are cursed and and.

29:21.25

Max Shank

Um, then it definitely worked. You're fucked. That's yeah.

29:29.50

mikebledsoe

And you're the only one that can undo it right? and so and so that was That's how I started he goes. He's like well well I met this guy and he said that he said that Um, my family had a curse and I.

29:43.89

Max Shank

Sounds like 1 of them spiritual ah barriers to enlightenment perhaps or maybe he was right I don't I don't know.

29:48.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well well Ego I Go what? Well I say I I was like well we have to Define Curse of course that we we do that on the show at Lot. We Define things and I was like like look I don't I don't necessarily believe in curses in the way that ah. People who use that language probably believe in them because I don't need to believe in the curse I Um I I think that people use that language when they're actually confused about what that is. It's like this. It's mystical. And that's one of the things that ah jeed was getting in the book with spirituality is there's so so much mysticism and that is there's so much mystery, There's so much that we don't understand that you have to buy into and that happens a lot in spirituality people start throwing these words around and I don't know what they're talking about.

30:44.60

Max Shank

On.

30:44.85

mikebledsoe

And I'm pretty sure they have no idea what they're talking about because they just strung together a bunch of words that don't make any sense to to anybody in the room and if I were to ask them to break it down in plain language. It's not going to happen and so anytime anyone starts using a lot of flowery language. Both me my fiancee would just leave.

30:55.95

Max Shank

Um, right.

31:04.62

mikebledsoe

Like neither one of us like to put up with that that shit you know and so that there's a lot of people in the quote unquote conscious community that exists that like you know I think they're doing good stuff I like them and all that but we're probably not going to hang out I don't want to like those people are confused. And so ah, what.

31:25.45

Max Shank

How could people not be confused I mean we act like it's just been this sequential build. But the reality is that cultures and nations and peoples and laws have just been patched together ah time and time again with. Almost never having a chance to really clean the slate. That's why when you have something like America it's like whoa. It's not totally blank slate but it's it's pretty close. They were like okay, let's let's think about this real quick like.

31:54.53

mikebledsoe

It was. It was pretty. It was pretty blank.

32:04.41

Max Shank

What are we going to do here and because and then of course now what we have is just the patchwork quilt of that initial weaving and we're just sticking stuff in here and we're like oh yeah, the school's not doing so good so they need more tests or we'll teach them the tests ahead of time and.

32:09.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

32:23.67

Max Shank

It's just all these fucking patches and ah so it's no wonder that it's just this absolute cluster fuck like you were saying where most of the stuff you just have to take on faith Ah, which of course is kind of kind of back to. Well.

32:35.95

mikebledsoe

We you don't have to I I I try not my my goal is I tell people a lot of times they'll ask me what I believe I go and I said you know I don't believe in much of anything if I can't validate it for myself then I'm gonna tell you.

32:42.72

Max Shank

Yeah I mean.

32:55.92

mikebledsoe

I don't know. Ah there are things that are useful if I were to believe when I believe this way it's something I can't validate for myself. But I can validate the result of believing it which is ah something I want in my life or something I don't want in my life. So I I like to.

32:56.92

Max Shank

O.

33:04.61

Max Shank

And.

33:11.30

Max Shank

E.

33:14.52

mikebledsoe

Be able to admit that I have no idea what the truth is but I do know what's useful and ah there are some things that I can validate for myself and I just know that now going back to the curse and and a curse on the family the the way that I. I Talked about that with him is that every family has a curse and the yeah and they they have some blessings as well. But the but the curse.

33:40.63

Max Shank

Whoa How about a blessing do they have blessings Also because if you can curse another person then it would stand to reason that you could also bless them The logic's not sound completely. But.

33:48.22

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, you could.

33:55.70

Max Shank

If you believe that you can be cursed. You probably also believe someone could say a prayer for you or give you a blessing or cast a magical spell.

33:59.91

mikebledsoe

But I think we've all seen this like I think what? But what he was talking about is that there's a trend in his family. There's a trend of this pattern of behavior and and it seems mysterious to to them and maybe to people around them who who.

34:08.84

Max Shank

In.

34:19.57

mikebledsoe

Are Not very good at paying attention. Um, they're not in that practice and so but if you pay attention close Enough. You have well there is a pattern of behavior that's leading to these cursed results right? These results to seem to be a curse. Well the curse is going to be a mystery until you. Until you go to? why are people why? what is the behavior that's leading to this and where did that behavior come from and.

34:45.17

Max Shank

Back to curiosity if you can get to that state like then then that's like as close as you can get to a ah blank slate moving forward is to get curious about what is rather than confirming what you believe I think is the.

34:52.22

mikebledsoe

Key So curiosity keep curiosity.

35:04.14

Max Shank

The major key so you're curious about what is or perhaps what can be ah and that way you are not confirming the pre-existing beliefs right? Which definitely feels more stable I mean everything. All the all this talk about writing stuff down and recording things is to increase predictability and stability. So I feel comfortable lending you the None goats.

35:30.35

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well this is what as you I said Curiosity is the cure for curses. So if you if we're going to show title somehow. So so so um, look so I'm talking to him and I go.

35:38.60

Max Shank

Um, cool. That's that sounds nice.

35:50.26

mikebledsoe

This is the curse is what your parents learn from from their parents and then what they taught you is is there's an ancestral pattern of behavior that's playing out and if you don't understand how that pattern works then it's going to be mysterious. And then someone's going to come along and and use the label curse because it's the word curse is kind of a mysterious thing in itself like Witches curse things and that you know it's kind of like it's magic. Yeah, so like I and then so I have to go back in that. Yeah.

36:15.78

Max Shank

Um, yeah, like a Hex or something like that. Yeah, but you can use magic for good too. You know.

36:24.97

mikebledsoe

It to something that's magical or mystical is just something you don't understand how it works yet. Yeah.

36:29.62

Max Shank

Yes, exactly magic You don't get the trick and as soon as you know how it works. It's not magic anymore. It's just a trick hey do the trick. You know it's magic when you don't follow what's happening and most things really are magic I'm a very curious guy I don't like to not know stuff.

36:36.33

mikebledsoe

Now.

36:47.11

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

36:49.43

Max Shank

Honestly, maybe it's maybe it's a character defect or an an effect I don't I don't know exactly what it is but ah, it's really difficult actually to know how stuff works just if you look around wherever you are right now and just try to figure out how all the stuff is working. Unless you are a like Captain Science or something like that. You're going to find it really taxing to figure out how everything works in the world around you and I think one of the things about objectivism which is where i'm. Trying to come at things from it's weird I'm like objectivist in terms of like if it works I'm going to use it and that's good enough for me and also a more metaphysical connection to an everlasting eternal and infinite source that is. Totally the opposite of objective. It's completely subjective. It's like a feeling that it's funny because it's either ah true or not true and so if I am making myself. Believe that it is true and it gives me a good feeling then I just kind of gave myself a little blessing basically and I think that's a lot of what religion is about It's like hey you know what it feels good that there is a wise fatherly figure who's not too hands on.

38:06.49

mikebledsoe

Exactly.

38:21.42

Max Shank

By the way, not an overbearing parent or father figure all powerful looking out for me. He loves me says so in the book. That's that's going to feel pretty nice I can totally understand what I would feel nice. Are you kidding.

38:33.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well you know, ah this brings up. Yeah well well I see a huge like a really beneficial place for religion. Um, you know when I look at when I look at you know people that are you know mainstream people.

38:38.37

Max Shank

About the boost in morale.

38:47.62

Max Shank

Fanatics. Oh.

38:51.95

mikebledsoe

Religion is a really great way to get them to behave like if somebody doesn't hasn't been through the questions and the logic and really sat with themselves and have an understanding of like ah of karma basically cause and effect how you know if I do this and I get this result. Most people have no idea that person is going to do really good going to church on Sunday and having the None commandments repeated to them and because the 10 commandments. It's kind of hard hard to argue with that shit like.

39:26.10

Max Shank

It's a bit outlandish really I mean no killing or coveting the neighbor's wife give me a break.

39:30.48

mikebledsoe

I think there was there was I think the one that don't covet your neighbor's wife is the only one that does not include an action that every the 9 commandments was don't do these things and then the last one was like.

39:47.64

Max Shank

Don't even want this.

39:49.67

mikebledsoe

Stamp out that desire like it was the it was the only one that was around desire. Everything else was about behavior so which is really really interesting that it that it that it was wrapped like that which I think is also really good advice. Ah you want to be miserable.

39:58.36

Max Shank

Um, it's like yeah, ah.

40:07.81

Max Shank

Just covet everything You don't have.

40:08.31

mikebledsoe

Like it. Yeah I mean just means to have envy you know to be jealous like it's like oh you know that dude's wife is hotter than mine I I think about her all the time talk about suffering you want to make yourself suffer.

40:21.16

Max Shank

How about the illusion. How about the illusion like that I mean you bring up a great point could talk about it all day. But I won't I mean look at what we do to fabricate a better illusion shiny sports cars glittery tits. We're doing the whole nine yards just to. We're so hyper audio visual. We're so hypervisual. It's insane and you know that.

40:46.44

mikebledsoe

I think 75% of your perception at least seventy five eighty percent on the yeah well the eyes are just an extension of your nervous system. It's just like your nerves have come out and it makes more sense. It makes sense.

40:53.42

Max Shank

Um, it's like.

41:00.69

Max Shank

Yeah, yeah, no I follow I Follow what you're ah what you're going at um I think it's interesting. A lot of people consume media now with the sound off and it's just visual isn't that interesting.

41:03.82

mikebledsoe

Now.

41:10.63

mikebledsoe

I Do I I I have everything set up to where I have to like purposely turn the sound on and and I hope if you don't have a caption on your video I'm I'm skipping right over because I don't want to interrupt I don't want to interrupt my music.

41:19.50

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

41:24.52

Max Shank

Um, oh shit game over that.

41:29.22

mikebledsoe

And got my music playing to my phone now I'm going to have some fucking Instagram real barin now get out of here. So I caption everything. Ah.

41:33.86

Max Shank

Totally totally totally. But I think that just goes to show that we we are. We're very one-dimensional and very heavily focused on the vision and this whole this whole thing. It's like we're not quite.

41:42.53

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

41:52.86

Max Shank

Um, full slaves to our primal ah lust and hunger which that's pretty fun. That's one good option but we're also not fully bought in to this enlightened state either. You know? So we're not we're not really ah enjoying the primal ah savageness and we're also not really in the egoless enviousless wrathless smoothness of ah you know, connected communication and communion. With other things and ah creatures in your universe which is your unique perspective. So. It's a but it's a real bummer to be between those 2 is that's like the worst place you don't really get the benefit of either None you know you're.

42:35.65

mikebledsoe

Yeah, ah.

42:46.30

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah.

42:49.76

Max Shank

Lizard Brain afraid all the time you're not really getting the you know the the lust and the hunger they're full due and you're not on the the wizard mode either sounds awful just bought in the illusion.

42:58.50

mikebledsoe

Terrible terrible. So ah, so so there there was this moment I had where I um I really got to have um, an appreciation for religion I was it was ah. 2018 I was in ah Paris France and I went to see Notre ah Notre Dame um and before it burned ah and I got to go I walked in.

43:22.62

Max Shank

Any.

43:33.80

Max Shank

Um I did too. It was awesome I might have been there in the same year I might have been there at like the same time is fucking weird. We were there on a date.

43:36.17

mikebledsoe

So cool. So I walked in I'm looking at oh oh weird. So they add all this these ah these these monk These monks had like these hats. You know you saw like the hats with the Jewels and.

43:50.57

Max Shank

Just kidding like.

43:55.44

mikebledsoe

And everything and are and I'm in there and I'm looking at the the cathedral from inside and I go and then I went and looked at the outside I was like man there is a lot of symbolism here and I was like this is super psychedelic like yeah, what I'm looking at.

44:08.63

Max Shank

Um, lot of fancy hats in religions too.

44:13.71

mikebledsoe

What I'm looking at is it looks very mystical and reminds me I remember looking at this one piece and I was like that's a fucking dmt trip right? there I'm gonna tell you right now I've I've been there and I and then I started seeing it everywhere I was like this is. These cathedrals in Europe are so psychedelic and so I'm in Notre domina and I'm like I'm like okay I'm getting a download here. Let's go home. Went back to the apartment I booked a tour.

44:32.94

Max Shank

Um.

44:45.59

mikebledsoe

For the next day I was like I need I need like a proper tour this me wandering around and by myself not going to cut it and so what do I do I drop acid before the tour because I'm a genius and ah. We signed up for a group tour but we were me and my ex-wife were the only 2 that signed up so we had a private tour while on Assad and we we got to go the guy was like I normally don't tell people about this because if there's catholics ah in the group they get really triggered.

45:06.25

Max Shank

Amazing.

45:20.80

mikebledsoe

Because there was so much of the symbolism on the church was taken from ah ancient Egypt and and basically every religion up to that point is represented in in Notre Dame um which makes it even more interesting than some of the other cathedrals. Yeah, it's.

45:34.90

Max Shank

See I didn't I didn't even know that that's awesome I checked it out but I did not get a tour I Certainly didn't get that.

45:40.33

mikebledsoe

Ah, there there is references in the architecture to ah the chakras 7 chakras it's very it to me. It was like very blatant but ah to someone who's.

45:48.49

Max Shank

So now.

45:54.34

Max Shank

Ah, neat. That's awesome. That's neat. No no, no, that's neat. No, that's really cool. This is neat.

45:59.19

mikebledsoe

Ah, he said 8 I was like but ah that is neat. So so i' go inside and I and I get to spend a couple I you know how long I spend because I'm on asset two or three hours with this tour guide and we're just jamming I'm like just pulling all the information out of him and I'm like I'm like well what do you think about this, he goes.

46:13.30

Max Shank

A.

46:18.69

mikebledsoe

Oh you're one of those I was like yeah man I don't care like like let's really go there So I got to go there with this guy and basically what I got the conclusion I came to is these monks are sitting in the church in a dark room and they're in there just chanting chanting for days.

46:19.83

Max Shank

Are in.

46:37.72

mikebledsoe

Chanting and chant they're getting into these psychedelic states they're doing it through chanting. Maybe they're drinking some wine and chanting and they're getting into this weird state and maybe there's some mushrooms in the wine who the fuck knows and they get these. They get all this information they get they get to have contact.

46:43.57

Max Shank

Yep.

46:56.58

mikebledsoe

With the divine this they have this mystical experience that they then get their experience truth in a way that you can't explain to somebody else. But once you have this experience. You go. You know we probably you know.

47:06.12

Max Shank

Oh.

47:13.26

mikebledsoe

Property rights is a thing and the cat back then the Catholic Church controlled property if you want to buy or sell you know your deed it was held with the Catholic Church and and Notre Damme was ah was it started being built I want to say in 808 or 900 somewhere there and wasn't finished until like well technically still not finished. But. I think it was ah like a none project so it was not a short project.

47:36.19

Max Shank

Um, the 151516 sounds right to me fifteen sixteen hundred I can't recall maybe as late as 17

47:43.49

mikebledsoe

Well I think they then I think they may have had like a finishing point but then they started up again and depending on who was who was who believed what at the time they would like tear down a statue and put a different statue up and all the shit. Yeah.

47:51.63

Max Shank

Rebuilding and building.

47:59.10

Max Shank

Funky right? I remember there were some cool statues and like gargoyles and devils on the outside and shut like that there. It was actually the outside was super hardcore I remember looking at that for a long time. There was a lot of angels and demons.

48:01.37

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, it's like like super hardcore.

48:14.38

mikebledsoe

And Mary with Mary with a torch surrounded by gargoyles and yeah, it's fucking wild and so um, so I I got thinking about it and I got to appreciate I go all these peasants outside they're giving them gifts because they come out.

48:15.38

Max Shank

Devils and freaky shit. Yeah, you know that would.

48:33.28

mikebledsoe

After days of chanting go I got the message I had a meeting with god I had this divine mystical experience and you know what Don not don't try to fuck your buddys wife you know, ah and you shouldn't steal shit and you know what I mean like.

48:49.10

Max Shank

Um.

48:52.30

mikebledsoe

All these rules were created by the church. Um, but they're not they weren't new but like there was other rules like they had you know the church was running shit back then they were really running shit until around the fifteen hundreds and so um, ah.

48:55.35

Max Shank

Um, well those aren't new ideas though at that point either.

49:03.78

Max Shank

Yeah.

49:11.68

mikebledsoe

I Really just got a big appreciation for religion at that point because I go well for me to expect for everybody to have had I've had a lot of mystical experiences. You know that the meeting with God has happened several times where.

49:23.44

Max Shank

Um.

49:29.44

mikebledsoe

I Go into this really deep state and things become very obvious and the behaviors that follow like oh yeah I should change this I shouldn't shouldn't behave like this anymore like this because I'm at a blindment with this other thing and so as like I'm just making myself miserable.

49:35.35

Max Shank

What.

49:47.91

mikebledsoe

So when I first had that experience I go everybody should have this experience and then after years of promoting people to have this experience I Realized a ah most people are not willing to have the experience. They're not. They're not even curious about it. It's not interesting to them and then B some people.

49:52.47

Max Shank

Um I.

50:02.82

Max Shank

And.

50:06.73

mikebledsoe

Become curious about it and they probably shouldn't have touched it because they don't they couldn't they they can't handle. There's they don't have enough like some type of mental construct in order to handle the the weight of that experience because you're going from 0 to 60

50:24.37

Max Shank

Um.

50:26.10

mikebledsoe

And ah and a split second with some of these things. Um, and so.

50:29.42

Max Shank

Yeah, it's way faster than chanting. It's like you can achieve kind of a similar experience with a lot of different things like you can get the runners high or you can just ah smoke a blunt or something like that you can chant for three days or you can just drop some acid.

50:41.10

mikebledsoe

Totally yeah.

50:47.13

Max Shank

And so we have all these shortcuts to get into that state and I think it's a connected and receptive state. It allows you to see past your own illusion I think it it temporarily depending on the dosage right.

51:03.32

mikebledsoe

Yep.

51:04.40

Max Shank

Temporarily takes away that tight grip on the um ego that you've built essentially as a suit of armor to survive the environment that you live in and we live in an environment where stories matter quite a lot I Mean. Like the the reality of how I am on a day-to-day. Basis is so different than from what you would find if you just searched for me on the internet. You would think that all I do is play Sports lift weights.

51:33.37

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

51:40.74

Max Shank

And dance in my backyard with my shirt off but I call it mobility instead of dancing and that would be That's like the whole thing. That's that's the illusion that's out there. So whatever. Whatever avatar you project out you you use it. Maybe not as armor maybe almost as like a scuba suit to enter the environment of society that we're in so it's natural that you would want to do that. You'd want to have armor plating you'd want to have these ah pretty colors on this avatar. So people really like it and maybe someone will even love you. If Your feathers are are pretty enough and so everything is just reinforcing these ideas but it's still coming from like a lizard brain type of desire and so it's no wonder that people are a little tangled up. Like in like a ah web of self and parents and teachers and fame and shame and blame and all these different things like that's why when you were like oh people are just children I'm like yeah they're like often abused children and abuse is like. It happens in so many different ways. It's like ah probably like 1 of the least popular things to talk about is rape but the only problem with rape is the lack of consent because nearly everybody is on board with sex and a lot of people from both genders like raping. Also. But that's like maybe even another. Ah, that's a different can of worms that I'm not not looking to unpack right now off the cuff because well look. It's um.

53:23.68

mikebledsoe

Why'd you even mention it.

53:29.53

Max Shank

People have their boundaries crossed in a lot of different ways and the the thing is it's that feeling of having your boundary crossed and so people feel um, abused or diminished or beaten down or taken from in a lot of different ways and so it's like. That idea that ah wherever you get wounded the bone grows back twice as strong like the calcification is like your personality from all these miniature traumas you've had and if someone's. Forcing you to do None thing or another they're still forcing you to do None thing or another and how you can harmonize that into the future is going to determine how you find the world and you know there are different levels of trauma. But if you're not willing to let it go. You are just going to go ah equal and opposite to that force basically right.

54:25.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

54:31.37

Max Shank

Ah, yeah, So I'm not Surprised. People are all all twisted up with identity and perception and I know personally I've found a lot of peace through trying to see things as they are. And it's not something that is like on off switch but it can happen really fast all at once. In fact, just for anyone listening. It's kind of an interesting thing in my experience. It's not a linear progress on this sort of. Thinking it All. It's like giant leaps forward and then a little plateau and then a giant leap forward and then a little Plateau I don't know what it's been like for you. But.

55:17.51

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it? um well the giant leaps forward or never yeah, they can be difficult. But yeah, it seems like seems like there's this giant leap forward then I got to stabilize the jump right? There's not a. So like oh I jump forward and everything's Great. It's like oh now because in those giant leaps especially if you have a shift in your own identity then everybody in your life. You're about to ah destroy their expectations of you. The stability is gone.

55:37.27

Max Shank

But.

55:49.48

Max Shank

Well, the Stability's gone right? The stability.

55:54.85

mikebledsoe

There's chaos it creates chaos and it creates chaos for your friends and your family because they can count on you to behave like this whether it's a good behavior or not and they're even looking to count on. They're counting on you to behave poorly and then all of a sudden you do something in order to be successful.

56:05.51

Max Shank

Right.

56:13.73

mikebledsoe

And they may even get mad at you about it. They like like I've I've had people in the past that were like mad that I was successful enough to where I didn't have to run my gym anymore they were like oh you're like leaving.

56:17.74

Max Shank

They'll definitely get mad at you about it. A lot of the time.

56:26.48

Max Shank

A.

56:30.18

mikebledsoe

Things behind you, you're you're changing and you're a different person like and they're mad about it I go Well yeah, that was isn't that the point like what do you think I was doing all this work for to stay the same.

56:34.66

Max Shank

Um, yeah, yeah, dude I remember that I remember the one that made me laugh The hardest um I fired this guy who worked for me because he was lying to me.

56:54.19

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

56:54.45

Max Shank

And if I can't trust someone. It's basically like see you later you know and 1 of the members at my gym texted me and said I can't believe you did this. You're really ruining my happiness.

57:05.62

mikebledsoe

Ah, you're in charge of their happiness. All of a sudden.

57:11.00

Max Shank

I just thought it was so funny. It was like anything different. This guy's like totally lost it and you know there are two sides to every story right? So there's no point in trying to have like an argument about its rightness or wrongness it. It just is what it is. It's like that Mark Twain quote how his. Taylor was the only reasonable person because he took his measurement new every time instead of measuring him against how he was in the past and dude absolutely like if you quit drinking I think that's ah one that a lot of people relate to you know.

57:34.38

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

57:45.54

mikebledsoe

Oh yeah.

57:48.86

Max Shank

Ah, used to be a bit of a party animal or just ah, a different type of party animal and as soon as you stop as soon as you stop doing that They're like what do? what are you doing? You're you're like ditching us. Oh you're too good for us or something I guess like no man like just doing a different thing.

57:51.25

mikebledsoe

Yeah I had the same thing quit drinking. Yeah.

58:03.26

mikebledsoe

Well it kind of sucks when you stop drinking because I had this experience I remember it was yeah it's like well 20 I remember it was like 2013 and i.

58:12.44

Max Shank

That's where our culture has fun for adults. That's like the place.

58:21.61

mikebledsoe

I had to actually cut back on drinking a little bit up to that point not completely I started smoking a little bit of weed when I was my and 2011 so I started smoking weed because I didn't like how I was behaving when I was on alcohol I was. Blacking out I was doing and saying stupid shit. Um I was around like my gym members. You know I'd be out at a bar with gym members. The next thing you know like like what what did I say last night I don't even know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the next day is like.

58:52.55

Max Shank

Feeling of up.

58:57.14

mikebledsoe

I Just I don't know what I did but I got this feeling. It wasn't good. You know, ah and so I cut back the drink and I I discovered that weed if I smoked a little weed before I went out I would drink way less and then weed would make me way less aggressive.

58:59.53

Max Shank

Right.

59:14.18

mikebledsoe

So I could still be out I could still be sociable.

59:14.87

Max Shank

Um, oh you think Alcohol alcohol is like so crazy when you think about it that we're just like yeah whatever you can have it have as much as you want? whatever.

59:21.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but but I was using the weed to like offset the you know it calm me down and and then I would just drink less and because I was already kind of feeling it if I drink too much while being high that ah that. Wasn't fun I would I would hit it.

59:40.75

Max Shank

But it sounds like yeah I mean it sounds like you got to that point where you were ah using your intuition and getting curious about it instead of just writing the momentum of like oh it's Friday let's all get drunk because that's just what we do and I think a lot of folks.

59:52.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah now.

01:00:00.12

Max Shank

Maybe don't even like it that much. They just want to be liked so they'll do the thing that gets people to like them. You know, drinking can be a competition that you can win speaking of life as a game.

01:00:04.36

mikebledsoe

Well, it's.

01:00:12.87

Max Shank

As soon as I figured that out I was like hey I bet I could poison myself twice as fast as you motherfucker and that everyone's like yeah you did it.

01:00:19.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, if you ever win a drink game. It doesn't It's never as cool as you think it's gonna be and a lot of people need that liquid courage. You know like it's the only way they can. It's like ah well it's it's it's well they have to like D It's like.

01:00:34.52

Max Shank

Be sexual. It's the only way they can like let their guard down.

01:00:39.39

mikebledsoe

It detaches them from themselves enough to where they can just kind of let loose. But anyways I digress I um so in 2013 I started eating way more psychedelic mushrooms and then after my None big psychedelic mushroom experience.

01:00:44.50

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:00:56.66

mikebledsoe

I cut out alcohol a hundred percent I

01:01:00.40

Max Shank

Dude, we should do a series of shows on a different substance every week guys. We're gonna start it. Nice and simple coffee week. One is coffee nice and simple week two. We bring out a little booze week 3 weed week 4

01:01:03.90

mikebledsoe

Ah, it's not the None time I've heard this pitch.

01:01:12.40

mikebledsoe

I want to do it now I want to do it's a lead magnet. It's a lead magnet. We'll do 10 shows on 10 different substances and there's ah the lead magnet is that you can um you have to figure out which substance we were on. It's a mystery.

01:01:17.14

Max Shank

Okay, we're going to go in Spain.

01:01:31.10

mikebledsoe

During the show and if you can match it up successfully you get a prize. Yeah, you have to like you know label it. There's gonna be 10 shows 10 substances definitely social security number. Um yeah I think that's a great idea. So.

01:01:32.90

Max Shank

Um, and you only get None guess. You got to enter your social security number.

01:01:49.87

mikebledsoe

Started eating mushrooms and I cut out alcohol completely and I was the guy you know I owned the gym I was I had a a house with a big backyard at a pool and you know I I bought the house because it was a great place to entertain guests. So I'm throwing these parties I got a keg in the backyard like we're doing everything.

01:01:52.25

Max Shank

A.

01:02:08.74

mikebledsoe

I'm not drinking and it's not 1 those things where I'm like I'm trying not to drink is just like I really just don't give a fuck about having a drink at all like someone can hand me a beer and it's like 0 desire. Yeah.

01:02:09.43

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:02:20.10

Max Shank

But well you got something better something that that suits you better. That's what it's about right? It's like let's get intuitive about the different medicines that we're applying.

01:02:28.91

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and so I just remember this one afternoon I've got a bunch of people in my house were standing in a circle. Everyone's got a red solo cup in their hand I'm drinking water and I'm happy as a clam. And I probably smoked a little bit of weed. Um, but I kept on trying to have conversations that had way more depth than what I would have when I was on alcohol and I just remember people looking at me weird I Remember people getting uncomfortable and walking away and it was.

01:02:54.51

Max Shank

Or you can.

01:03:06.10

mikebledsoe

It was all of a sudden there was this barrier between me and the people who I had been getting drunk with for years and having a good time with and when I look back and I go oh I just wasn't meeting their expectation of who they believe Mike Bletzo to be. They didn't know what to do with me and in fact.

01:03:20.41

Max Shank

Inhale.

01:03:23.72

mikebledsoe

Probably didn't weren't that interested in talking to me because they were wanting to talk to a guy that was more like who I was behaving like and so.

01:03:31.56

Max Shank

And I mean your cells are all changing except for like neurons basically throughout your whole life. They're they're dividing and dying and dividing and dying. They're going through this process of death and rebirth and so.

01:03:38.33

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:03:50.75

Max Shank

If most of your cells are different seven years later wouldn't like you also be quite different seven years later and the fact of the matter is your brain and the pathways in your brain can change way way faster.

01:03:57.28

mikebledsoe

Absolutely.

01:04:10.50

mikebledsoe

Well yeah, the first was it in and exercise science I remember we were studying is like the majority of the results that people get in their performance in the first 12 weeks of training are due to new motor patterns new. It's your nervous system that's adapting. That's why you're that's why you got strong so fast.

01:04:10.32

Max Shank

Then like your bones and you.

01:04:29.88

mikebledsoe

After that now it has more to has less to do with the nervous system and more to do with the muscle mass or whatever other things that need to structurally change. But yeah, the nervous system can change really fast. Yeah.

01:04:40.79

Max Shank

Right? You're just using what you have better. You're just using what you have better when you get those neurological adapt changes adaptations. Yeah.

01:04:50.12

mikebledsoe

Thanks for putting in plain english.

01:04:55.94

Max Shank

Ah, fucking got me.

01:05:01.69

Max Shank

Um, and let's see we started with ah symbols and records and record keeping and now we're at the the record of your self which is in your Dna. Also we got your brain.

01:05:11.47

mikebledsoe

Yep.

01:05:19.45

Max Shank

Which is within your single life and then you got your Dna which is a long long very tightly bound record of all of the things that need direction for cell production.

01:05:34.99

mikebledsoe

That's ah, that's a great theory I think that that I think that's a a piece of it I've I've ah I've thought about this a bit the Dna thing yeah the Dna thing I think there's a lot we know about Dna I think that we can do a Dna test and we can find out our ancestry.

01:05:43.29

Max Shank

Um, tell me more tell me tell me more about it older we can match Dna we can match it. That's that's a good start.

01:05:52.85

mikebledsoe

Ah, figure out what part all that. But but here's a thing when they start looking at ah Dna of different ah species like humans have more their Dna has more in common with like some insect I forget which one it is.

01:06:05.58

Max Shank

E.

01:06:12.57

mikebledsoe

Then a fucking chimp and I look at that and I go we don't We don't know um wish I had it? Yeah please um there. Ah.

01:06:18.24

Max Shank

Um I don't know this one I'm going to fact, check this when the show's over.

01:06:31.44

mikebledsoe

Well I remember reading that story and I was like and people were like whoa. You know that's crazy I Go Yeah, that's crazy. It just tells me that we don't know nearly ah the amount that we think we know about what comprises who we are. Ah.

01:06:49.35

Max Shank

It's weird because we know almost nothing and we know a lot at the same time sometimes it's like the difference between knowledge and wisdom. It's like knowledge is knowing which Dna sequence is responsible for.

01:07:06.34

mikebledsoe

Right.

01:07:06.94

Max Shank

Sickle cell anemia. For example, like that's very, that's very consistent and repeatable so that would be something and be like oh yeah, that's that's pretty wild so there. That's how that basically happens right? and then there's also ah. Like way more that we don't understand about Dna I mean the way that it wraps itself up I think ah maybe Drew Barry Drew Barry is the Youtube channel you can watch like a little animation of. Dna moving around.

01:07:46.15

mikebledsoe

We're gonna be able to show that um I see animals that share human Dna sequences apes monkeys and humans um mice dogs chickens.

01:07:49.81

Max Shank

Oh man, Yeah, this is wild.

01:08:02.49

mikebledsoe

Ah, now it's just it's some article from some school. It wasn't very good information.

01:08:04.59

Max Shank

Does it show the different percentages because I'm guessing a chimp is more than a chicken.

01:08:13.61

Max Shank

But that's the record that's been kept basically that that's the record of how to direct resources I mean that's the record that's being played. That's the record that's being played.

01:08:18.96

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it is a record it is a record what my my my my thing is it's not in ah in the narrative. Well I would say.

01:08:31.24

Max Shank

No, that's the record that's being played in your body is your Dna is unzipping and rezipping itself up to make stuff.

01:08:37.50

mikebledsoe

Well I would just I would just say it's a record not the record I think there's way more. There's some shit we don't know.

01:08:43.40

Max Shank

Um, tell me more. There's like a little chip in my Pineil Gland or something like that like a calcium I don't know either.

01:08:51.19

mikebledsoe

Maybe I don't know I don't know what it is but I think it's I think it's a lot I think it's a lot safer like I think there's plenty of evidence and evidence to show that Dna There were so many things that they thought that would be solved by ah, sequencing the genome.

01:09:10.50

Max Shank

Oh.

01:09:10.85

mikebledsoe

And none of it came true and it's because it's it's I don't think it's telling as big of a story as they once thought it was going to be telling So I I think I think there's something Beyond Dna that is still yet to be discovered. That's going to. We're going to find plays a much bigger role.

01:09:18.79

Max Shank

Um, you know why.

01:09:28.81

Max Shank

Oh my gosh.

01:09:29.26

mikebledsoe

So I just like to hold that perspective because that's the perspective that keeps people looking and being curious versus saying that you know this is the this is the one and only true god.

01:09:35.68

Max Shank

E. Well here's how I would say it here's how I would say it is Dna is the ah program that's being run but there are a lot of factors that determine how your Dna is expressed how it's bound up. It's packaged whether we're going to copy this part of the code or that part of the code it changes based on how much sunlight you get it changes based on the different hormones that are working in your body I mean you have all of these different pieces playing together and so. To take back. Take it back to you know some semblance of objectivism. It's clear that the way you think the way you label things the way you um, retell tell and retail different experiences has an influence. On your physical body including the way your Dna is expressed so that's epigenetics right? So after you're already alive you have this relationship to your environment that's in a state of constant flux and your body. Just always like yeah we'll adapt to that we'll adapt it and it's happening so many times on such a small level that you can't really track it um, but just to keep it very practical. What you think is influencing ah the hormones it's influencing your digestion it's going to influence. How your Dna is expressed same thing with sunlight so there are all these external factors and what I'm getting to is from a practical standpoint you got to just start out with a few things that are really big boosters. You know things that very clearly. Lift you up to a higher state. Ah not necessarily drugs but it could be drugs that lifts you up to a higher state right? That's going to be what to that's going to be what determines your life. Basically.

01:11:41.72

mikebledsoe

Temporarily.

01:11:45.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and I like to think about it and um, we have we have states and then we have stages and like states are things that we we visit like we may have like a state of consciousness. It's like oh that's temporary. Your state is changing.

01:11:57.57

Max Shank

Right.

01:12:04.38

mikebledsoe

All the time it changes if you if you breathe really shallow and fast versus breathing really deep and slow that's going to change your state Now that's going to make an impact on how you perceive things. Um up.

01:12:11.85

Max Shank

A.

01:12:17.94

Max Shank

And how should you breathe. How should how should you breathe I mean it's like nutrition. Ah you should never breathe through your mouth or you should breathe through your mouth every day as fast as possible. Yeah.

01:12:22.50

mikebledsoe

Right.

01:12:36.38

Max Shank

You should always breathe as slow as possible or you should never hold your breath and never strain your breath I mean I can I can follow. Ah, the logic of most of those recommendations and they totally contradict each other. So once again, no wonder things are confusing the superstitions are all over the map in terms of how we should eat how we should manage our finances how we should move how we should even fucking breathe so that. Is probably what makes that simplicity so attractive.

01:13:12.35

mikebledsoe

You just made me want to look up the etymology of superstition. So I feel like that's like a very accurate way of talking about we tomorrow superstition. Um.

01:13:28.30

Max Shank

Alternate definition language you're fucked you just hit the center. The first use of superstition was just called language. It's like the snake eating its own tail I don't know what you're going to think you're going to find.

01:13:30.95

mikebledsoe

And I say what.

01:13:40.96

mikebledsoe

Yeah, ah was a ah.

01:13:45.12

Max Shank

I Means you you know Green Monkeys You know Green Monkeys have different calls for whether a hawk is coming or a tiger is coming and they will lie so that the other monkeys will look away so they can steal a banana.

01:13:59.56

mikebledsoe

A.

01:14:03.75

Max Shank

That's superstition hey look out. There's an eagle up there. Maybe that's not quite superstition.

01:14:06.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well. The definition here is an irrational belief that an object action or circumstance not logically related to a course of events influences. Its outcome number None a belief practice or right irrationally maintained by ignorance of laws of nature or by faith and magic or chance. And None a fearful abject state of mind resulting from such ignorance or irrationality man.

01:14:30.84

Max Shank

Kind of back to curses on that last's definition the first one ah is just like a skinner box. Um, they did a lot of and experiments with a skinner box. Bf Skinner was the guy's name and they put a button inside the box. And they put a little feed thing and the feed thing was not connected to the button. It was just on a timer but the pigeon I think builds an association with the button in the food. So. It's just fucking pecking this button nonstop because it has now. Ah. Has this superstition that if it hits the button the right way or enough times that the food will come out but it's just on a timer and then what's funny is this guy who did a show called mind field and he did a show called vsauce before on Youtube pretty huge channel actually he did the same thing with people. In a box and a dollar bill dispenser and it worked the same way. So so people are just like hitting this button that doesn't do anything and dollar bills are coming out on a timer and they're hitting it different ways and it's like man we think we're so different than these other animals and we are but we we are super different and we're.

01:15:42.89

mikebledsoe

Now.

01:15:49.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, ah the the use of the word superstitions I brought up I read this book a while back called most dangerous superstition or the most dangerous superstition by Larkin Rose

01:15:50.98

Max Shank

Like just the same. Yeah.

01:16:08.21

mikebledsoe

It's interesting because I won't tell people exactly what the superstition is but it's a easy read. It's like less than 100 pages and and it's it's good. It's good. It'll it'll change your thinking around some things. Ah, but.

01:16:14.78

Max Shank

You tease.

01:16:25.37

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that's my my book recommendation of the day speaking of superstition. It'll it it demonstrates. Ah it demonstrates how deep a superstition can get into a culture to where people just think that that's the way it is.

01:16:27.40

Max Shank

On.

01:16:42.99

mikebledsoe

And he he takes this one superstition and he just surrounds it and then something that you believe is actually necessary at the end you may think is not really that necessary.

01:16:54.74

Max Shank

Yo, let's get back to what's truly necessary that's a cluster fucking and of itself I mean how about how about the concept of a weekend that's just made up. We made that shit up. There's there's lunar cycles that shit.

01:17:03.41

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, got yeah.

01:17:13.94

Max Shank

There's lunar cycles. There's solar cycles. There's days. There's years. There's months that shit makes sense a weekend a weekend. What the fuck is a weekend say we could look this up. But yeah.

01:17:17.70

mikebledsoe

Although the week is made up or the an entire week like once you once you get once you get down to like the lunar cycle then is the daily cycle I think it's just ah, some dudes got together and said you know we need to have. We need to split this twenty eight days after Twenty nine days up a little more ah huh yeah for working well and you know the the jews did it none with the the sabbath. You know you got one day off you, you don't do shit for one day

01:17:37.67

Max Shank

5 on 2 off 5 on 2 offs like for working. Basically.

01:17:53.58

Max Shank

Um, I also thought it was weird that the the word weak is the same as the word weak like the opposite of strong and on the weekend you will be weakened. Oh really? yeah I'm sure there is but I don't know if it's.

01:17:54.26

mikebledsoe

And then.

01:18:02.14

mikebledsoe

There's a whole Youtube video on this. You'll be weakened. She also goes into and in the morning. What what are you mourning.

01:18:14.14

Max Shank

Totally I've been saying happy day to people I've been saying happy day to people for a while now because I noticed.

01:18:15.22

mikebledsoe

Did you lose something Did you have a loss. There's a there's a group people that say Grand rising.

01:18:27.42

Max Shank

Heavy I like it. Wow that sounds way cooler. No question. Ah.

01:18:27.43

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, met with Grand rising instead of good morning. Yeah.

01:18:37.38

mikebledsoe

Ah, get some weird looks walk up the hotel Hotel desk Clerk Grand rising to you. Ah I think we should ah about that time to wrap it up. Ah.

01:18:42.65

Max Shank

Grand rising sounds like a Friday night type of Maneuver Grand rising um, yeah, why don't you why don't you let everybody know what the point of our conversation was today.

01:18:58.62

mikebledsoe

The point man to reduce the burden of your stories to to find the cure for your curses and to get more in touch with.

01:19:02.76

Max Shank

Are.

01:19:14.32

mikebledsoe

Reality even though none of us really have the opportunity to do that.

01:19:17.76

Max Shank

Um, thought we had some good stuff about intuitive accounting intuitive eating and intuitive movement and it kind of it kind of relates back to the superstitions thing that we closed out on so we have this idea. Ah, which is a beautiful concept of intuitive blank intuitive movement intuitive eating intuitive Accounting. Ah, but if you don't have that foundation ahead of time your intuition will just be very um, like easy easily Trickable. You'll be easy to trick and you're probably just writing the momentum of whatever superstition you were exposed to so whatever your environmental stimuli were you'll you'll just you know intuit on that. As opposed to building up that vocabulary and that also is going to make you feel more confident in what you do when you have ah when you can speak the language. You know that's kind of related to that concept of Fear. Really only being about the Unknown. So Um I think that actually works out pretty nicely. We have all these records Some of them are pure superstition. Some of them are observable and repeatable and that's really Cool. Um. But unless you get curious. You will probably just fall into superstition very very easily and yeah I think that's it the other the other part though is good.

01:21:00.21

mikebledsoe

I Like that if you're if you're not if you're not curious. You're susceptible to superstition. Yep.

01:21:08.65

Max Shank

And confirmation bias right? like both both of those are antithetical to curiosity and I I Really do think Man. Ah Curiosity is the way to um. Harmonize with the unknown in the future. It takes the future from something that you are afraid of to something that you are curious or perhaps even excited about and that relationship with the unknown is a big contributor to how someone ah participates. In the world. Be it A ride a game or a show or whatever. So um, you know we're full of superstitions get curious about it. We'll probably still die with a lot of superstitions that we still believe at the end of it all.

01:22:04.35

mikebledsoe

Except for max and I we're gonna be enlightened by the end. All y'all go check max out at http://maxschank.com and you can check out some of stuff I got going on over at http://thestrongcoach.com we got a summit coming up in.

01:22:05.17

Max Shank

But we'll do our best to get curious anyway.

01:22:10.96

Max Shank

Um.

01:22:24.10

mikebledsoe

Middle of September I recommend you come? Yeah, oh yeah, and oh yeah I got talk to you about that? Yeah there. Ya'll.

01:22:25.30

Max Shank

O Still got a few spots. Hu Ah, yeah, yeah, we'll talk later bye.

Jul 30, 2022

This week's episode is for courageous people only. The topics we discuss in it will challenge you as they touch on deep Truths that many would rather distract themselves from

 

If you’re like most people, you’d rather distract and delude yourself from the actual Truth than you would face it and overcome it. As a result, you’re likely living a reality that’s a few degrees removed from True Reality…

 

…and in doing so, you’re making things harder for yourself than they need to be as you cannot accept what “is” in order to resolve it and move past it

 

Listen in to this week’s conversation as Josh Trent and I share personal experiences that have taken years to accept and work through, to Universal Laws and Truths that humanity is slowly waking up to

Jul 25, 2022

00:00.00

Max Shank

All right? Welcome back to Monday morning with max and Mike we're talking about launch pads. We're talking about ramps. We're talking about Trebuches. We're talking about flinging things a mighty distance this applies to both physics and also business That's what I'm excited about. I don't want to go out there and go fishing. You know one pole at a time I want to be able to deliver a tremendous payload at a great distance. You know what I mean and have it create a very massive effect. But in order to do that. You got to spend a lot more time with the building of it. It's like fishing pole pretty easy to build water wheel significantly harder to build but greater impact lot more work ahead of time and then you take it all the way to something like a rocket which can or a power plant. Can deliver a tremendous amount of power but it requires a huge amount of upfront work and because I've done a lot of biz coaching with people I feel like that that is the number None thing that. Separates people who create an exponential growth in their business is the ones who are willing to do the setup time to make something that is a more sophisticated leverage and force multiplier. You know what? I'm saying.

01:27.51

mikebledsoe

Yeah I Think the None thing you got to consider in that case is does what you want to build actually solve a problem and um I think a lot of people you know think I think a lot of people start businesses based on something they Like. Or something you know around what it is that they want to do which works sometimes because they figured out. They've solved some problem for themselves and they they can help other people through a product or service. Um, but I'm a big fan of of seeing if it's the right Poll. Before I go launch a hundred of them like I don't want to put the wrong bait on my hook I could be I could be catching the wrong fish or I could be catching no fish at All. So I would use one pole make.

02:16.13

Max Shank

I like I like the fishing analogy. The fishing analogy is good because people are about as smart as fish.

02:24.18

mikebledsoe

Ah, it's true. Ah so no, but like it's good to put figure out if if it you know test with one poll or maybe test with 20 polls all with different bait. What um, keeps popping off is now we're pulling the hooks out and we're replacing all them with that one Bait I think that. That's like the I've been thinking about the business as ah, especially like a coaching business as a triangle at the bottom you have you have your offer and then one of the sides is marketing and the other sides is the fulfillment. The coaching aspect. Find that most people and the way this would work is like what are you selling? How do you market it and then how do you fulfill on it whether it's a coaching business or not and.

03:12.98

Max Shank

Ah, right? How do you? How do you educate them about it and how do you get it to them. So like the bottom is what is it and then one side is how do you tell the right people about how do they know about it and then how do you get it to them I like it.

03:19.16

mikebledsoe

Right.

03:25.32

mikebledsoe

Exactly exactly so but I find them I know you do triangles are the best sturdy pointed can penetrate well and super hard to tip over.

03:31.46

Max Shank

Also I like triangles.

03:36.87

Max Shank

So I mean they're not hexagons. But they're really cool.

03:44.95

mikebledsoe

Ah, so well depends on what kind of time go with oh let's hear it.

03:46.11

Max Shank

You know my favorite ah Buckminster Fuller joke he's ah he goes ah is well. It's more of a statement I guess he goes. Ah why do architects build square houses. So engineers can put triangles in them.

04:08.49

mikebledsoe

I I like it I like it. Yeah yeah, tons of triangles. Yeah, None of triangles. Yeah yeah, without that your shit's going to get fucked up. So um.

04:10.73

Max Shank

And if you you've done a bunch of house framing and stuff like that too before right? So you have these rectangle boxes that are just full of triangles. You better have those fuckers in there.

04:28.22

mikebledsoe

Well, it just won't even look right.

04:31.44

Max Shank

No oh it's going to go over without some triangles in there. Yeah.

04:32.86

mikebledsoe

Just kind of push it over Ah yeah, so I like thinking about this because I more often than not when I bump into an entrepreneur either a new entrepreneur or an entrepreneur suffering None times out of None It's the the bottom. Part of the pyramid. It's the offer. It's the it's the what they're selling. Um, yeah, yeah sand at the beach. Yeah, and so so somebody you know it's like somebody has these air things people think that it's a marketing problem.

04:55.12

Max Shank

Sand at the beach like why would you want to do that to yourself. Ah yeah.

05:10.66

mikebledsoe

And I'm like it's not a marketing like does anyone want what you're selling in the None place when it's not a marketing problem like your offers should be the thing you're offering should be an obvious solution if it's not obvious solution then there's more work to be done there. Um, some people in business would say that the development of the offer is a function of the marketing department. Which I don't necessarily disagree disagree with but so is the fulfillment. They kind of all bleed into each other. Yeah, So so if you so if you nail down a solid offer and then you just.

05:33.74

Max Shank

I Think marketing marketing is part of the offer for sure. Yeah.

05:49.30

mikebledsoe

Funnel as many people towards that that one offer not now you got a winning formula.

05:53.48

Max Shank

Well, and even even better. Is you you set up your shop within a current flow of consciousness directed at that specific thing and I mean Youtube has been a game changer in this because. There's just such a bigger library of things that are searchable if you have questions that need solving and if you if you meet people where they're at and you match their pace. They don't notice that you're a fisherman. Basically you just kind of enter the conversation that they're already having.

06:16.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

06:31.96

Max Shank

And the the finesse of that offer is really.. It's the same as seduction for the most part. That's why so many of these great copywriters were like pickup artist stuff before then because it's all about getting someone from I don't know. To yes, right? And so however, you craft that that story that is entering that person's mind is going to guide their next decisions.

07:02.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, what are we talking about toy forgot about our topic since you made it you may you you made it up. Ah oh yeah, oh.

07:09.95

Max Shank

Triangles we were talking about lot. No no, we were talking talking about launch pads launch pads rocket ships trebute none fishing from fishing poles to ah nuclear power plants. Ah we're we're just trying to eat and fuck right. That's really what it comes down to we want to make sure that we're safe. We want to get enough calories. We want to continue our genes we we insist that the genes get carried forward every animal and plant is like None sure about that part of the equation like definitely more of us and we just that's life baby more of us. Ah so it's all about energy. It's all about conserving calories. It's always it's also about um, expanding the mass.

07:49.71

mikebledsoe

That's life. Yeah I.

08:05.26

Max Shank

Of the tribe which is also like a stored energy kind of calorie thing. It's like ah it's like the size of the tribe is your energy bank and actually in dune they talk about how the tribe shares the water ah like everybody shares all the water and then if 1 guy dies they suck the water out and like it's all about.

08:07.27

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um. Yeah, about if.

08:23.63

mikebledsoe

Well, it's ah yeah I mean unless you have a tribe where half of the tribe ah is useless Now that's a drain on the energy.

08:24.97

Max Shank

Just ah pooling those re pooling those resources.

08:36.65

Max Shank

True but that has happened for a long time I mean we we ah well and it's and it's ah it's uncertain of what the utility is in some of those cases like ah, there's that grandmother idea where there's the wisdom that.

08:40.64

mikebledsoe

I Know that's why I bring it up.

08:56.24

Max Shank

Passed on like why would I'm not saying this to be crude, but like why would a lady stay alive and go through Menopause like why would they stop being able to bear children and maybe it's ah like physical. Ah. Power but I think ah that is only exhibited and I think like Orcas and elephants. There aren't that many creatures that go through Menopa and maybe chimps. Also I can't quite remember exactly but it's this idea that there's a ah huge value to.

09:25.88

mikebledsoe

Um.

09:33.55

Max Shank

Them teaching the next generation how to do stuff and with orca they have different hunting techniques based on where they live they have different languages between these different pods. So there's a utility that's not strictly. Ah, hunting gathering or procreating. But I know what you're talking about too. It's like the bigger the percentage of freeloaders are the heavier. The wagon gets and it's still and a simple energy equation right? If you have one ah hundred kilograms in the wagon and you have None guy pulling. It's. Totally fine. But if you suddenly have ten Thousand Kilograms unless it's very ah, good piece of machinery that None guy won't be able to move it.

10:15.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it feels like that's where we're at now. So a bunch of people are just jumping in the wagon and not pulling it. But I'm not yeah and um, while'm not blaming them I get it I get it. Well here's the thing. Ah if you lack if you lack.

10:25.46

Max Shank

Um, hard to blame hard to blame. Yeah yeah, who would very few wouldn't do that.

10:35.90

mikebledsoe

If you lack the skills to demand a certain amount of money I mean this is what happens we're in inflation right now and but like.

10:42.82

Max Shank

Oh God here we go again. It's all it's all just about show me a better offer. That's what it's about because if so to be a freeloader to be a freeloader. It's got to be a better offer than the other thing that you are thinking about doing.

10:48.50

mikebledsoe

It. It's It's exactly right.

10:55.85

mikebledsoe

Exactly always goes back to incentives with you as well. But the thing is what we have is ah the cost of living is outpacing salaries. So it's not like people's salaries are inflating at the same rate that that's historically.

11:00.75

Max Shank

Totally.

11:14.28

mikebledsoe

Been untrue. So like what is true is that the salary state. You know you'll get a 1% raise and you get your dopamine hit and you stick with it but inflation is 10% and so your lifestyle keeps decreasing the people at the top get more money and then so I think a lot of people are just like.

11:15.00

Max Shank

Right? ah.

11:29.48

Max Shank

Right? Well if.

11:34.22

mikebledsoe

Why I can't pay my bills at Fifteen Twenty dollars an hour I can't pay my bills so why work you know it's so I get it.

11:38.50

Max Shank

Right? right? Don't totally I there's like ah a Bob Newhart joke from like a really long time ago where he talks about working at the ah unemployment office and. He it didn't take him too long before he realized that he was handing out these $60 checks and he was only getting fifty bucks a week and he had to he had to be there all week I mean this has been going on for a long time and the thing that has increased people's quality of life has been technology and maybe quality of life is actually a stretch because I think that you can perhaps live a much higher quality of life with some lower tech.

12:26.57

mikebledsoe

Well ah, technology technology allows us to leverage its leverage to increase power. So if you put the if you put power in somebody's hand who's going to make choices that don't take them towards a higher quality of life. They're actually going to go to a lower quality life.

12:29.52

Max Shank

Even though you know there are people you know what I mean exactly more leverage.

12:45.88

mikebledsoe

Much faster and because there's dopamine that's associated with the tool the technology the dopamine will create the illusion that their lifestyle is improving because now they got a fancier phone or whatever the fuck or more people like their their photo today.

13:01.21

Max Shank

Um, well they're using that tool but they're just using it at a very like low level way.

13:05.46

mikebledsoe

Ah, and so so like they think they think that having the tool They think that having the tool is the increase in quality of life when it's the thing that can increase the quality of life exactly.

13:20.52

Max Shank

It's not the tool. It's what you do with it. That's what like all like every every girl I've ever met has always said that to me, it's not about the tool itself. It's what you do with it. But.

13:26.56

mikebledsoe

Um, and making you feel better. How the yeah so that's it's not the size of your tool max.

13:33.14

Max Shank

Ah, yeah I don't know I don't know why I Assume it's ah like this with everybody. That's what I've been told I've been told that so much so much I Wonder if it is though if they're just saying that like. I Just meet all of the most considerate ladies ever. Is there a common denominator here that I haven't considered who so so we're talking we're we're we're talking.

13:54.66

mikebledsoe

Ah, oh he's going into reflection folks. Ah, we'll see him back in a week absolutely

14:05.93

Max Shank

We're talking money though. Also right and the size of your wallet is way more important than the size of your genitals fellows for the record fat guys with tiny cocks fat old guys with tiny cocks are out there right now with the most beautiful women in the world If that's your if that's your thing.

14:11.11

mikebledsoe

When it when it comes to getting getting and having ladies.

14:23.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

14:25.19

Max Shank

You know Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But the truth is how you do professionally and how you ah carry yourself is going to be way more important and that kind of leads us back to the launch pads. It's this. It's the same kind of thing. Can you defer the gratification.

14:33.11

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you know I um.

14:43.72

Max Shank

To build what is necessary so that it has its its own momentum without you pushing it all the time and I think that's what what everybody wants or at least everybody I think maybe should want is something that.

15:00.25

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's um, man see if I can find it real quick. Nope Um I was thinking about the ah the myth of it takes money to make money. There's like that that famous phrase.

15:00.60

Max Shank

Can sustain itself.

15:16.61

mikebledsoe

It's a meme that floats around in in our culture and it's It's not true. It's ah you need resources to make money and money is also a byproduct of using those resources well and ah you are your primary resources.

15:16.79

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

15:36.53

mikebledsoe

Um, are basically your ability to observe critically think and problem solve and most people I bring that up because I don't want people to get stuck in the way of thinking that oh I need to have money before I can make money because I think a lot of people. Or or in that mentality by that's exactly right? It's exactly right? So I think that there are certain common phrases out there that are almost intended to keep people from being successful and that's one of them.

15:56.89

Max Shank

I Need to lose some weight before I join the gym.

16:09.15

Max Shank

Oh almost or certainly I mean there's mind control everywhere um depends how deep you want to go down that rabbit hole. But even just ah like let's say regular Tv especially as a dude.

16:12.46

mikebledsoe

Most certainly? yeah yeah.

16:27.99

Max Shank

It's like how many Tv shows have you seen in your life where the father was a powerful figure with a good set of values and a good. It's ah it's never that it's like some whiny bitch. It's like some whiny bitch like.

16:39.83

mikebledsoe

Not since the early sixty s.

16:47.15

Max Shank

Who's always like oh can we have sex wife and the wife never wants to and the guy always does and in reality and in reality in reality. It's like as soon as you get to that age. It's the exact fucking opposite. Are you kidding me like None 50 year old ah in a couple.

16:50.10

mikebledsoe

That is interesting I never thought about that.

17:06.69

Max Shank

It's not going to be the guy who's like scrounging for it all the time he's done. It's just it's just a funny ah example where it's not just the commercials. It's just it's not like those rap videos and all that stuff That's ah mind controlling us. It's even um.

17:09.82

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

17:26.61

Max Shank

Like a Tv show where that's your model that you see and believe and now you think oh that's normal. Not this other thing and whatever you think is normal. That's what you're going to like reinforce.

17:32.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah I've thought I've thought about this is I remember the first movie I went and saw in a theater I was five years old I don't remember seeing it but my mom told me that the first movie I saw was bambi and.

17:49.51

Max Shank

Ah.

17:51.43

mikebledsoe

And like I remember growing up and hunting and then people were like oh but you're going to kill bambi you know and I and I was always like well yeah I mean and I think that ah Disney movies are probably primarily responsible for veganism. At this point.

17:58.67

Max Shank

If yeah.

18:09.57

Max Shank

What whoa somebody saved that clip Jesus What a claim is off the wall I Love it go on.

18:09.76

mikebledsoe

Is and.

18:13.35

mikebledsoe

Well but it's well I mean so if we're talking about mind control and programming how many Disney films have talking animals that have the consciousness of human beings right? And so now what you have is a bunch of adults that think that the animals. Are equal to humans and there's nothing different about the 2 of us and they're people too and these are the types of things that you would most people would never be able to come to that conclusion unless they were None None 3 4 5 none watching animals talk and. This and that I'm not saying that animals don't think and don't have feelings and all that stuff but they're not us.

18:57.89

Max Shank

I think the main difference is the talking thing I was thinking about this the other day like for example, it's okay, in some cultures to to eat ah a dog right? and and here it's totally okay to eat a pig. And right now that's fine. But if you were to have sex with a pig people would I think that's illegal I think it's ah or at least frowned upon if it's not illegal if it's not illegal. It's at least frowned upon in today's day and age it's because there are a lot of bigoted people out there who are discriminating against the yeah.

19:22.57

mikebledsoe

I Think it's too legal.

19:36.84

Max Shank

Beastie Alllet Tours I don't know whatever now picture this tomorrow tomorrow. You know what really grinds my gears is that Ah now imagine tomorrow Switch flipped pigs can speak english.

19:38.39

mikebledsoe

Got a bone to pick max. Um.

19:52.54

mikebledsoe

Ah.

19:56.22

Max Shank

My guess is that the rules would exactly flip I think if pigs could speak English It would be perfectly legit to have sex with them and not okay to eat them anymore I think it's all about whether they can communicate.

20:08.35

mikebledsoe

Well that that falls right in line with the Disney thing if you're witness lobsters having conversations with squirrels then you know like I can see what could happen for you anyways.

20:23.13

Max Shank

Which one was the lobsters and the squirrels.

20:27.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah I was mixing up my movies. So the back to the triangles and fishing poles the the max and I were talking about right before the show is we we would like to put together something. People are listening to this show. They like it I've gotten a few dms of people offering to send us money which we still haven't set up the donation page yet, but it'll get up eventually and um, watch should be None of those things where.

21:00.56

Max Shank

Please please I'm hungry Please I'm hungry I'll eat I'll eat food.

21:02.10

mikebledsoe

Thousands of dollars start rolling in and I'm like ah I should have set this up max is he's he's losing weight a pound a week right now he's gonna be nothing here by by Christmas and.

21:18.89

Max Shank

I'm going on a food strike until those donations start rolling in. There's no way I'm doing that. Ah, okay, so we got the triangle We got the offer.

21:22.57

mikebledsoe

No, ah so ah so I'm curious I'm curious about what it is that people people want I'm always curious about what is it that people want. Yeah oh well, a I look both.

21:36.60

Max Shank

Our listeners or or all people. Okay I'll tell you what they want it goes back to um my my 3 levels theory here lizard mammal wizard people.

21:41.99

mikebledsoe

Both So okay, let's go.

21:56.32

Max Shank

In Lizard mode. They just want to be safe. They just want food. That's it. They're stuck and if you don't get out of that lizard Brain Mode. You're fucking lizard and you might thrash Around. You might have some sharp fangs and claws. But you're not going to fuck around with love or self-actualization which are the. Higher orders of thinking right? you go to the None tier which is the Mammalian brain the mammal wants to be loved So the lizard wants to be safe. The mammal wants to be loved and of course people will try to substitute ah food for love if they can't find it. At that level. So Let's just go back a step and so if people can get love I'm just always shoveling ice cream trying to fill the void in my heart with frozen cream out of a cow. Ah I Love it. Okay, so.

22:36.72

mikebledsoe

This explains your ice cream habit.

22:54.55

Max Shank

You get love as a mammal.. That's what you want and if you can go even beyond that your Self-actualization. You're following your Bliss. You're finding the intersection between doing what you feel totally blissed out doing you're in a flow state and it's good for the tribe. And you're safe. All that stuff is happening. You feel like you are expressing your most authentic or unfiltered self that feels good and of course in order to get to that point you usually need to be safe so secure The lizard Love the mammal. Free The Wizard. That's what people want and the form it takes can be different. Um you know sex and food and whatnot.

23:39.39

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that's what they that's what people want they want they want safety love and after that it's yeah, um, be their best self.

23:48.30

Max Shank

Self self actualization legacy. Maybe yeah.

23:53.72

mikebledsoe

Find a lot of people hit self-actualization and want to help other people get the self- actualualization but don't There's not enough people. It's like we've had ah we've hit a tipping point or like ah we've slid back in society a bit good correct. Yeah enough people. There's not enough people that are.

24:03.22

Max Shank

What do you mean? there aren't enough people who are trying to self-actualize or.

24:13.44

mikebledsoe

At that point I think with the last couple years. Ah people slid back into survival and so a lot of a lot of the ah lot of people stopped spending money on things that were more in alignment with self-actualization and started.

24:15.61

Max Shank

Ah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

24:31.61

mikebledsoe

Buying more toilet paper now now we're in a depression.

24:32.70

Max Shank

Word totally and it's interesting. How the word so closely mirrors the way that people feel when they're um, less Expressive. I Really hone in on that juxtaposition or that comparison between um, shoot I Just lost my train of thought depression expression. Yeah, exactly so being able to fully express yourself like I have a little note Card. It's just a.

24:53.33

mikebledsoe

A.

24:58.85

mikebledsoe

Depression expression.

25:09.97

Max Shank

A small list. It's in ah, a copy of the doubtaging. It's like pocketsized and I realized a while ago for business for fitness the the list of of stuff should be pretty short overall like the general list that you follow through on and for me, it's like. Have sing I have dance I have climb I have swing like a sword or a rope or something like that. So I Just have these like little bullet points. Basically for what I want to do on a daily basis and the more I sing and dance the more expressive I feel and the less. Feel like filtered or damped down and the word expression itself is all about standing out. So It's like to stand and to be like expressed and it's um, it's important to harmonize that I think with.

25:50.59

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

26:07.40

Max Shank

A feeling of oneness So like the exact opposite of expressing this expressing this unique ah sensation of an individual self and sync back in to the all-encompassing soup.

26:20.92

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it can be done takes practice hold both. Um.

26:27.51

Max Shank

Oh yeah, you were talking about how we're in a depression now and I don't know if it's that far yet. It's not ah I'm like.

26:35.24

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, there's there's more jobs available than there are people willing to work the jobs and.

26:42.56

Max Shank

Now that that sounds like Greece a few years ago where it was like 50 I don't know if there's exact statistics but it was like just an overwhelming amount of people who were working in the government and an overwhelming amount of people who were just getting paid by the government and there was like nobody left who wanted to work.

26:57.69

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well there I think it's just this. Ah this is one of those and this is just one of those times where you're.

27:02.23

Max Shank

And I get it.

27:09.65

mikebledsoe

In in business you have to be really good at having that solid offer you actually need to be solving a problem because I think yeah luxury items luxury services be the first to go.

27:18.50

Max Shank

The less necessary. It is the sooner. It goes gone depending on the demographic. Yeah, and then it almost never changes for them.

27:28.50

mikebledsoe

Um, unless unless you're serving the 1% and never changes well people.

27:36.40

Max Shank

It's more individual changes. It's like ah individuals slide in and out of the 1% but as a group the 1% is always there. They're always super wealthy and it always has been since alpha males.

27:44.64

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, in fact, even during it during it during a downturn. They become even more wealthy and that's.

27:52.55

Max Shank

Yeah, because they have the dry powder to be able to build rocket ships while you're just fishing furiously in the stream with your one pole because you're like fuck I I need to catch None fish today to feed my family I ain't got time to be building a fucking water wheel or a rocket ship or any of that. So you're just furiously swinging your pole in the water and what about him.

28:12.36

mikebledsoe

This makes me think about ah Jeff Bezos talk about a guy talk about a guy who like set the plan in place. He may not have known he was gonna do what he's doing now but he was a online bookstore.

28:23.60

Max Shank

Did. Amazing! amazing.

28:29.75

mikebledsoe

That just slowly added more and more categories of shit to sell and now oh no, they they probably dwarf any other retail. There's no retailer that stands a chance against them. So.

28:36.26

Max Shank

Here.

28:45.27

Max Shank

Um, they're so there's they have such incredible economies of scale because they can provide such a crazy value now right? They have that bulk.

28:52.97

mikebledsoe

Well I think I point that out because I think people think about scale before they think about solving the 1 problem he solved the 1 problem which is you can't find a book at your local bookstore right? once he once he crushed that then he had the ability to to scale. Both.

29:00.25

Max Shank

I see. Right.

29:12.87

mikebledsoe

Vertically and horizontally.

29:14.64

Max Shank

Yeah I mean I remember him saying once people never want something to arrive slower. They never want it to be more expensive and he's like we just basically focus on that and it's not quite like Youtube. Um, but he's connected the buyers and the sellers in a marketplace he is the marketplace and he's got such a huge market share and the delivery. So actually one of the sides of the triangle you were talking about which is the delivery.

29:37.87

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um.

29:53.11

Max Shank

Of that offer or that good or service to the person is I mean what's better. What's better. You can get it same day. You can get it 2 day for free and usually it's a pretty seamless process to return that shit like you go into a coles you fuck. They.

29:56.77

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the feature.

30:11.78

Max Shank

You print out a label 1 ne-click ordering I mean there's a lot of utility there and it's all software based for the most part that's what's so great because we know that's outrageous leverage and of course Youtube has created um, created a marketplace. Right? A media marketplace where the creators like you and I and the advertisers also like you and I but usually different things can ah basically work together to use that flow of consciousness. So. It's really, a.

30:43.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah Youtube Google Facebook Instagram yeah.

30:48.56

Max Shank

Oh my god Youtube is such a home run. That's like the most insane I'm so hot on Youtube as a user and as a creator because like the videos I've put up five plus years ago are still getting lots of views and those views a small.

31:01.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

31:07.84

Max Shank

Percentage converts into people who buy something from me and they're just there they're they're there like I don't even have to pay to have those things there like speaking of you don't need ah money to make money. Of course it's better to have more. It's easier to make money when you have a lot.

31:14.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, um.

31:25.63

Max Shank

Like that's always been the case you know so.

31:26.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah I want to go back to that the Amazon you're talking about people don't want things never want anything slower um in ah Alex hormose's hundred million dollar offers book which is one of the best books on offers I've ever read. Um, if if you're a coach. It's probably the. Like it. It very fits our industry but he talks about getting the 2 things that make something more valuable is speed and effort so less effort faster. An example that he uses in the book is. Why will so why would somebody spend $20000 on liposuction but have a hard time spending a couple thousand dollars on a trainer even though like it's obvious to everyone listening why you wouldn't want to get liposuction. But why can they charge that amount of money and there's.

32:20.79

Max Shank

The speed and the ease.

32:22.67

mikebledsoe

No, yeah, there's no um, shortage of people getting their fat rearranged by a surgeon. So.

32:31.97

Max Shank

Well, it's like a different value system for that individual right? So they think their time is valuable. They don't think that um the cost of having their body sliced open is too high right.

32:47.11

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

32:50.25

Max Shank

And they think and they believe the cost of exercising for a long time is is too high So simple cost right? It's simple cost benefit and when we talk about cost um calories in time are almost synonymous right? because without calories you're dead.

32:54.63

mikebledsoe

It's too expensive.

33:07.83

Max Shank

But you could also think of time as the resource and actually it's a little more practical to think of it that way like how many hours per day you can invest you have a fixed amount Yada Yada and then you have dollars and as far as. Investing is concerned mean your your stuff and your time is basically all you got right.

33:31.11

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so two things I've been thinking about in regard to offers recently I've been asking myself None questions. The none question entered my mind. Um as I was talking to a buddy who's in the cosmetics industry and he found. He found a product that if he walked into a room 80% of the women wanted his product and that got me thinking I go wow what is a product that if I walked in a room more than half the room would want it. So.

34:07.38

Max Shank

Just start hanging out with me. But um.

34:10.20

mikebledsoe

That's right, that's right? Ah, but there's there are certain products. Um you know, 80% of the people are using toilet paper 80% of the people drink water you know at least um at least 80% but yeah so like ah.

34:18.16

Max Shank

Wait only 80% do the ah I mean I guess some people use the wet wipes but like in America at least a lot of people wipe their ass with their hands.

34:29.50

mikebledsoe

Learnings We got bad days and wet wet wipes. Yeah in hand. Yeah yeah.

34:35.80

Max Shank

Also that yeah and hand for talking global. It's better to just focus on North America or America for the sake of these conversations right? That's where our audience is.

34:47.50

mikebledsoe

Most of them I think we had someone listening from Chad someone from Chad was listening yesterday I'll show you the stats. Yeah so Chad um the ah so I was thinking about like what is what is it that.

34:51.27

Max Shank

I apologize to all of our audience in Sudan fucking from from Chad no way that's funny. Ah.

35:06.49

mikebledsoe

That almost everybody wants to have and then and then a couple months ago I started asking myself the question of like how would I add a zero to every time I sell something how would I how do I make it 10 times more valuable. So.

35:22.97

Max Shank

Oh.

35:24.76

mikebledsoe

Some people may hear that and go how do I make it 10 times more expensive. No 10 times more valuable at least so valuable that someone had to have it so those are like 2 thought experiments I've had around offers I think that you know.

35:38.73

Max Shank

You have.

35:42.60

mikebledsoe

1 is what's the total addressable market. So how many people out there want or need yours and also looking at how many people are offering the same exact thing that also impacts the total addressable market. So if you can offer something that's truly unique. Your marketing doesn't even have to be that good that truly solves a problem.

35:51.67

Max Shank

9

36:01.49

mikebledsoe

And ah, a lot of people want it. It doesn't have to be that great and then um I think it's also much easier to create good marketing when you have that really special unique offer. Um and then also the thought experiment. I really like to do is the the 10 x how do I make this None times more valuable. What would what would that product or service look like for those people or what are those people spending that much money on. So if I go okay, what do people spend none on the majority of the market that spends that kind of money.

36:31.00

Max Shank

Oh.

36:39.37

mikebledsoe

Usually a home wine. Yeah so ah anyways, and then and then the other experiment too is what would your? what would your offer look like if it was a None of the price.

36:40.35

Max Shank

Wine.

36:47.13

Max Shank

Individual bottles.

36:55.47

Max Shank

Yeah I like the decimal. The decimal imagination is pretty good across the board for any of those like can we get it 10 times faster to them. Can we get the results 10 times faster can we make the experience last 10 times as long, you know all that.

36:56.65

mikebledsoe

What could you deliver.

37:11.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um, yeah.

37:14.78

Max Shank

Is ah it's a clean visualization for some reason it it expands way more than thinking of doubling it I mean of course mathematically.

37:19.44

mikebledsoe

Well doubling doesn't work doubling doubling doesn't work because people I believe that people's minds will start gravitating towards working twice as hard. It's It's a lot easier to work twice as hard that if I say.

37:32.10

Max Shank

Oh here.

37:38.36

mikebledsoe

the the 10 x thinking is a governor on how much work you can do because you can't work 10 times more than you're already working I mean unless you're only working an hour a da hour then then you could shut up max. But then.

37:46.62

Max Shank

Yeah I mean I could.

37:54.70

Max Shank

Ah, hey this is work is my work for the day.

37:55.57

mikebledsoe

But then um, yeah, there you go? Ah so so the 10 x thinking really does force people into a high leverage way of thinking. It's a higher order of thinking.

38:05.42

Max Shank

I agree. You also said something that I was just talking about yesterday which is huge is you don't want to identify with suffering I mean you can if you want to but I feel like it is a major inhibitor in the results you get. Because instead of your ah result being proportional to the result itself your your metric is how much you suffered and the ratio of how much you suffered to what you produced and I think that um holds a lot of people in a.

38:38.16

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

38:44.92

Max Shank

Really diminished state because the the value that they were taught either implicitly or explicitly is that suffering is the value. Not the value is the value and hey that's fucked and I'm sorry if that's you ah. But you can change your mind if you want to.

39:06.58

mikebledsoe

Ah, you're you're spot on. Yeah there there was a period of time where I didn't yeah.

39:13.72

Max Shank

That's what I learned I mean full disclosure. That's what I learned like if you suffer more you're more good and the reality is ah like that's kind of true historically like when we tell stories if a guy suffers a lot. We're like man that Martyr was a real badass. He got. Drawn and quartered for what he believed in or this guy got crucified for what he believed in I mean crazy right? So you don't want to identify with suffering. It's way it's way more It's kind of a ah weird selfish thing.

39:34.23

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, wild.

39:49.29

Max Shank

And if you really focus on solving a problem for somebody else. You'll recognize that your suffering is totally irrelevant except for the fact that if you suffer more you'll probably be able to produce less. So so.

40:00.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the um ah in my in my trainings a lot of times I have students they do a journaling about how about the the collapse distinction of sacrifice and service and.

40:16.62

Max Shank

Oh shit. That's a good one I hope you have that written down. It's nice. 1

40:19.67

mikebledsoe

Yeah, So there's yeah, there's there's this it happens a lot with people with military Backgrounds Blue Colar Backgrounds I mean such as max and I come come from these types of backgrounds and the idea is that. Sacrifices and service are like intermingled constantly in the language. So as you're getting older because here's the thing we learn definitions of words through context we don't sit Down. We weren't taught each word and sat down and. Go Oh Let's look at the dictionary so we learn everything through context and so unconsciously a lot of us when when people hear about service their mind automatically translate that to be associated with sacrifice as Well. And so.

41:12.82

Max Shank

Get right.

41:14.92

mikebledsoe

What ends up happening I see this a lot with mothers is if they like they they can't enjoy themselves because the moment they start enjoying themselves. They're not being a good mom. Yeah, exactly exactly So this.

41:18.34

Max Shank

Oh yeah, the Sufferin mama.

41:27.80

Max Shank

They're a bad mom. You're a bad mom. What are you fucking enjoying yourself bad mom.

41:34.74

mikebledsoe

This idea So I have everyone journal out you know, ah the definition of each go look it up just go look it out and write it down now. Can you have service without sacrifice. Can you have sacrifice without service. Yes, on both. So.

41:40.86

Max Shank

M.

41:50.24

Max Shank

Depends on how you define sacrifice 1 of the definitions I think for sacrifice is just ah like what are you? What are you paying right? I'm sacrificing this in exchange for this. So it really depends on the.

41:53.71

mikebledsoe

Um.

41:57.89

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well my friend Jesse just yeah well Jesse Elder defined the sacrifice is that you the difference between sacrificing and investing is.

42:07.32

Max Shank

The definition. So what you said is right? You just have to have it there.

42:16.53

mikebledsoe

A lot of times people use the word sacrifice when they're talking about giving up something now for something greater later and that's yeah and that's technically an investment. Not a sacrifice sacrifice is when you give up something for a lesser value. So that's.

42:21.74

Max Shank

Like in a chess game when you do a sacrifice for a gambit.

42:35.33

mikebledsoe

That's a distinction that he's created that I that I find to be really useful that may not necessarily be true, but it's a really useful way to think possible. What.

42:39.58

Max Shank

Um, you know I don't even know if it's possible to sacrifice something for a lesser value because in that moment you are making a value estimation. On what you're going to get out of this behavior. So I think you are always ah basically gambling. Um, it kind of is similar to yeah I think I mean people always do what they think is going to get them.

43:04.90

mikebledsoe

Ah, sometimes people know that they're gonna I don't know it's hard to say I. Well, let's get out.

43:15.94

Max Shank

The the most for the least if we want it if we want to simplify it down people want the most for the least and sometimes what they give up is not worth as much as what they got is like my friend Rob says is the fucking you're getting worth the fucking. You're getting.

43:32.52

mikebledsoe

Um, or going like this. Yeah.

43:33.84

Max Shank

Ah, ah what you made me think of you. What me? what you made me think of though um was why I think ah tolerance is the worst thing in the world I think being able to I think.

43:48.85

mikebledsoe

Dude you live in California you're supposed to be tolerant of everything everybody all the time you you should have a flat flat set of values. Everything should be the same value all the time.

43:52.76

Max Shank

No okay so go go ahead and lump lump me in lump me in with tens of millions of people in a sweeping generalization because I'm such a normal such ah because I'm such a normal fucking dude in the None place right.

44:02.66

mikebledsoe

I Just did I.

44:11.11

mikebledsoe

Ah.

44:12.38

Max Shank

Jesus fucking Christ so being able to tolerate physical forces. That's good. That's athletic, right? But when people tolerate something. Ah let's say psychologically or relationship. Wise it's ah it's one of the worst things you can do because you're not what you should do is you should reject it or you should accept it and I think people make the mistake of they tolerate. Which is like they're being wounded constantly and they build this resentment from this little barbed wound so you should either accept it fully or reject it but you should never tolerate never tolerate behavior you don't want accept it. Let it go or reject that shit.

45:02.91

mikebledsoe

Ooh.

45:07.80

Max Shank

Don't fucking tolerate. It's the work tolerant. You heard it here first. Tolerance is the worst thing for a relationship. That's what's up.

45:13.70

mikebledsoe

I Love it I Love it. You're right I like the acceptance or reject it. Tolerance tolerance is like I don't want to make a choice I don't want to. It's a lack of responsibility in the context your.

45:25.60

Max Shank

Um, yeah, no, it's even worse. It is a choice. It is a choice I'm gonna I'm gonna watch I'm gonna watch this thing that a person does and I'm not gonna like it and I'm gonna Harbor resentment because of it.

45:32.42

mikebledsoe

Well, every non-choice is a choice.

45:45.00

Max Shank

And it's going to feel like and it's going to feel like a perpetual cost is's going to feel like ah, a perpetual suffering. It's going to feel like a sacrifice. That's what made me think of it is like you're you're you're now in a psychological energetic debt because you are tolerating instead of accepting.

45:51.37

mikebledsoe

Ah.

46:02.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

46:04.66

Max Shank

And it's like that French phrase to know all is to forgive all like you know full acceptance is going to allow that energy to flow full rejection is going to allow you to flow your energy elsewhere but Tolerance is just this like parasitic energy leakage where nobody's winning. Out of that Deal. Tolerance sucks.

46:24.55

mikebledsoe

I Really I Really like that perspective. That's that's brand new for me I'm gonna write some things down. But I think that's just gonna be the title of the show is tolerant sucks.

46:41.64

Max Shank

I knew I stumbled onto something good here. This is a new thing for me too. It's when within the last week some headline shit. Yeah.

46:42.95

mikebledsoe

Yeah, some headline shit. Oh yeah, yeah, what did you? What did you? What caused you to stumble across this one. What we got you thinking on this. Do you remember you might be like me, you just wake up and you're like ah.

46:55.54

Max Shank

So my my my special lit I mean I'm kind of like Richard Feynman in that sense where like I just get a kick out of thinking about things I like to dance around with sticks and ropes and clubs and swords and that kind of shit. But.

47:06.10

mikebledsoe

Ah.

47:14.72

Max Shank

I also get a real kick out of just sitting in a big comfy chair and thinking about shit you know, but this time ah I was talking with my special lady friend. None of her friends. Ah, just recently broke up with her boyfriend right? And so. She went to go console this friend. She told me a little bit about what's going on nothing like no grizzly details or anything like that just in um, you know generalities. How do you interact and relate to another person and. You realize that it's ah it's rarely something like all at once that sends it to hell there is a straw that breaks the Camel's back but there's always something in the background that is being tolerated. That's the problem is like something has been tolerated instead of accepted or rejected. Accepted boom floodgates are open rejected boom the gates are closed and so as far as like ascribing fault to None party or the other like the the alleged offender or the one who's just quietly suffering those offenses. It's like. You got to take away that resentful tolerance and accept everything whole heart as it is or you got to reject it a little bit more forcefully and the longer those boundaries get ah, blurred and fuzzy and. You move your boundaries in and you feel resentment because now you're not really comfortable because your boundaries aren't where you'd like them to be um, it. It just seems so clear to me now even looking back at all my past relationships and I've never felt better about that. Personally because you just learn something from everybody and you appreciate the time for what it was and it's it's very easy to become ah resentful and I think that's ah all because of tolerance instead of acceptance or rejection.

49:21.30

mikebledsoe

Love it. Love it. Thank you for that one all right? What's have do with ah fishing poles. Yep.

49:24.63

Max Shank

And yeah, man, Thank you, You want to know so people often ah resent their circumstances and they tolerate their circumstances but they don't fully accept them either. And that's like having a big chip on your shoulder. Ah and and you're stuck in this ideology rather than just accepting where where you are here and now and realizing that what you have is here and now and whatever you have. That's what the fuck you have. And if you're like but that other guy has more. It's like Okay, yeah, yeah, he does so like a thousand years ago. The guy who had.

50:08.62

mikebledsoe

What are you gonna do about it anytime anyone complains about something I ask them? What are you gonna do about it and a lot of time that throws people off.

50:19.83

Max Shank

Um, well look. You should either be ah like asking for help or offering help Really if you're not sure what to do like ask for help or offer help You're not going to get anywhere.

50:29.63

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

50:35.87

Max Shank

By complaining unless you go into politics then you can get a tremendous amount you can actually get more power and money than anyone else in the world If you just come That's professional level complaining.

50:43.67

mikebledsoe

Could you imagine if if ah could you imagine? ah like ah a Ceo going out in the world and complaining for his marketing just going out there and complaining about shit.

50:59.28

Max Shank

Ah, Amazing. You can only complain as part of your marketing If. You're complaining about the state of the market I Can't believe how horrible this market is. That's why I came in here to change the game with my new and improved version of what this market is lacking like there's a., There's ah, there's a place for it for sure. But yeah I I think ah, you don't want to tolerate your situation you fucking accept it or you reject it and you come up with a new one. But I think I Really think Tolerance is like ah a really bad value. Ah, in the sense that we're talking about and in the sense of physical forces. It's one of the best ever means you can tolerate a huge amount of force without ah deform ah plastic deformation right? without breaking or deforming. So That's that's a good thing physically and then energetically acceptance not tolerance but acceptance so I think that applies to where people are in their lives. Professionally I think Also I think a lot about. A lot of acceptance is about seeing things for what they truly are and when it comes to putting an offer together. It's like it's great if you like something but it doesn't mean that other people have to like it and the same thing is true for like a solution that worked for you. It. It may not be the solution that everybody else wants and I think that's ah, that's how a lot of people get sucked into some sort of weird fanaticism or zealotry I'm trying to think of a less fancy word but they get they get really hyper about something. Because it really worked well for them and then they start basically using a hammer to bash down every screw that they find because they don't know the difference in what is being presented in that other person versus what happened to them. They're like oh my God I did hamstring curls and it cured my life. Everyone's doing hamstring curls and I've I've attended maybe 50 weekend seminars in my life. No. Well I mean as a student I've taught like 200 but I I would ah I would notice it in myself. I'd go to a seminar I'd come back and I would just be like parroting that shit I couldn't help it you know and as I started teaching more seminars I made more and more of a point to remind people to not just like brain dump.

53:31.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

53:46.65

Max Shank

Everything I told them on their new clients and think that you know it's a 1 ne-size fits all approach to everything.

53:50.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah I had a ah talk with a guy the other day where I told him just that in his marketing is focus on the benefits. Not the features. He had all these features it was revolutionary for him.

54:05.10

Max Shank

Revolutionary Revolutionary Revolutionary The features just need to be a bullet point to justify the price I think unless it's part of the story.

54:08.55

mikebledsoe

But it's well this is this is the problem. Well None problem is people are focused on the people people know the features and they think that if I they tell other people the features they're going to get the value of it but they need to hear the benefit they're going to get from the features. But the other thing is is going back to being in touch with reality I'm not sure. There's you know I think there's some coaches out there that are telling other coaches that you know they can make a million dollars you know following their their bliss type of thing. But.

54:45.90

Max Shank

Some of them some of them. Yeah.

54:47.64

mikebledsoe

Some of them some of them can and I think part of it is like some of them did and then they turn around tell people do the same thing but that doesn't always work. So for instance, yeah.

54:56.64

Max Shank

It's like multi-level marketing. It's like multi-level marketing like 90% of the people. Ah, it didn't have what it takes in the none place and did nothing with it and then a small percentage are like fucking rock stars and they're like. What is this an electric dildo some fancy antioxidant berry juice I'll sell None of them this month I'm on it. You know what? I mean it doesn't it doesn't matter even what it is. There's just that crew that will always do well. But.

55:14.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But I get for instance I'll get a I'll get a coach as I'm like um I'm like okay, what are your goals. Oh I want to be able to make x amount of dollars. I was like okay your business needs to make this amount if you want to take this amount home and there and then it's kind of like a oh shit and I'm like okay who's your who's your client like what type people are you serving is like well mma fighters in their early twenty s trying to go pro.

55:32.25

Max Shank

Well.

55:50.50

mikebledsoe

And I go Well do those guys have money. Do they have and and do they valueate? Yeah I mean and well I think most guys trying to go pro and mate don't have money I I.

55:54.28

Max Shank

Do they want this I mean a lot of them may have money but do they want it.

56:05.48

Max Shank

My experience is the same I used to want to train those guys like my gym at the very beginning because I was into all that shit I was like a fucking retarded testosterone out 21 year old when I started my gym I was I was fighting in the cage.

56:08.46

mikebledsoe

Okay, yeah.

56:25.37

Max Shank

Was like I am a tough motherfucker and I'm gonna fill this gym full of guys just like me and you know what those guys didn't pay a God damn thing those guys suck Those guys are those guys are always about like.

56:30.30

mikebledsoe

Yep.

56:39.51

Max Shank

Ah, dude I'll tweet you bro and I'm like oh Jesus fucking. It didn't take long for me to head down to the country clubs and swoop up some of the 45 to 65 range there are easier businesses and hard businesses. Let's just say it that way.

56:41.49

mikebledsoe

I'm great people.

56:46.79

mikebledsoe

Exactly exactly? Yeah, so like what I.

56:59.15

Max Shank

There are easier businesses. There are things that people already want and there are things that are a tough sell.

57:01.69

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well here here's the thing I I do 2 things for free. So I get.? Yeah yeah I did 2 things I have 2 offers for free that I give people and both of them tap into my expertise that I normally get paid for or at least used to get paid for and I am he ruined it as.

57:11.61

Max Shank

I'm excited by whatever these 2 things are going to be by the way. Ah.

57:25.76

Max Shank

Is it prostate massage is that one of them. Sorry.

57:31.23

mikebledsoe

Um, so I give these things away and I and I love it because I don't charge a dime for it whereas a bunch of other people are trying to figure out how to charge what I'm doing when I'm offering for free and the only reason I can offer it for free is because I have. Paying customers somewhere else people that actually do have money.

57:50.81

Max Shank

Oh shit, he's flexing on y'all right now I give away better stuff for free may maybe better. You don't always get what you pay for, but it's because you are so confident.

57:57.60

mikebledsoe

Well not yeah, probably but like maybe better you don't always get me pay for it.

58:08.12

Max Shank

In your ecosystem right? that you have created that once they experience something you've given them for free. You got None of value down the road right? no.

58:15.17

mikebledsoe

Well well here's the thing is thinking about like um, well yeah, maybe but actually I don't have a plan for it at all with the 2 things I like I have no plan for either None of these things to ever make money and these are. But types of thing people want to help people who it's charity. That's not really it's not it's not really charity um oh no, what? what? I give away for free is I do a Tuesday night workout for a handful of my buddies at my house.

58:32.25

Max Shank

Um, so it's so it's marketing. No fuck you. It's not char you it's marketing a free book is great marketing.

58:48.71

Max Shank

Oh that's nice. Yeah, that sounds great.

58:51.82

mikebledsoe

Right? And then we grill some meat afterwards and we kick it and they get world-class training. You know most of them never been exposed to like a coach that's been exposed to things I've been exposed to so they're getting their minds blown. They're learning more about their bodies for an hour once a week and.

59:09.18

Max Shank

I dig it.

59:10.76

mikebledsoe

I and I never care to train pay you know accept money for for physical training. So I do that So I give that away for free and then I give away which I give that to people who don't know that they could get training right? like they don't even know to go get it but because.

59:25.58

Max Shank

Right.

59:29.20

mikebledsoe

My friends I'm like come over to my house I'll I'll I'll treat you and then on Thursday mornings I have I meet with these guys who are blue collar and these guys could can't afford me for for the types of of advice and. Coaching that I would give but if they can figure out a way to make time out of their day at None a m on Thursdays I meet with them at the park. We kick it for an hour and I just help them with whatever it is. That's going on in their life. Well I just kept on coming across all these guys so like ah it was like I was getting like all these blue collar guys like.

59:59.36

Max Shank

No kidding How do you set this one up.

01:00:08.40

mikebledsoe

I'd be at a cafe student just couldn't stop talking to me so I was like I Well I guess I'm not supposed to work' going to supposed to talk to this guy. So I talked to this guy I'm like oh you start sharing his problems with me is like I don't know why I all a sudden look like a a target for other people's problems. But then.

01:00:16.86

Max Shank

Ah.

01:00:26.97

mikebledsoe

I Got a guy that came to saw saw me solar and you know the the conversation turned and he needed some help so I was able to give him some help and then another guy I met ah you know at the at the gym same thing like you know he's he's. Somehow what opens up to me and starts talking and then so I got these guys and I'm like look if you have any of your other friends that you know and some of these guys are dealing. You know they're dealing with some heavy like legal stuff and all sorts of crazy shit and so I'm meeting with them and. For most of them the benefit they get is just understanding that whatever they're experiencing internally other guys are experiencing that same thing internally too. I mean that that by itself is just so healing because most of these guys they screwed up something we Well we all screwed up.

01:01:14.37

Max Shank

Ah. Lost Boys their lost boys.

01:01:23.26

mikebledsoe

We we all screw up in our life. Yeah, we all screw up in our life At some point right? and then we then we judge our s ourselves for having screwed up and most guys they just clam up and never share that with anybody because they think that their situation is truly unique.

01:01:33.28

Max Shank

Often. Talk about suppressing right? I mean who suppresses more than dudes with their feelings. Ah.

01:01:41.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, So um, so just just the act of getting out and hanging out and talking about it and then realizing that other dudes have the same problems and then and then I'll obviously also offering strategies for dealing with. These things. Yeah, so these are 2 things that I like to I just do for for free that I know other people are trying to charge for and if you're trying to sell coaching to somebody that doesn't have money like I don't have any interest in trying to sell something.

01:02:02.70

Max Shank

It's like a feeling of a community. It sounds like.

01:02:18.38

mikebledsoe

To the blue collar I'm not gonna go sell coaching to the blue collar community one. They're not really looking for it. Um, and ah because they don't know it exists. They just don't even know it exists. Yeah.

01:02:22.90

Max Shank

But now.

01:02:31.73

Max Shank

You're talking about using the right bait for the right fish basically and the fact that not everything has to be ah, a monetary exchange because my guess is you get a tremendous amount out of these experiences every week otherwise you would not do them.

01:02:38.25

mikebledsoe

Not everything.

01:02:44.47

mikebledsoe

I Absolutely so but the only reason I can do them is because I am using the right bait with the right fish somewhere else that feeds me it pays my bills it.

01:02:53.96

Max Shank

Exactly you got a crew of guys out on a fleet of boats. They're catching fish you're shooting the breeze with the guy at the diner and if you don't free up your time. Ah, you're always stuck with the pole.

01:03:02.32

mikebledsoe

Exactly.

01:03:11.21

Max Shank

In the River You don't have a chance to tell other guys about fishing. You don't have a chance to just relax on the beach yourself. Um, yeah, that's a really interesting way to use our resources right? It's like you're using your resources to get something that.

01:03:29.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, ah, there's ah this this actually happens in like a lot of the the medicine world like I learned about this from Ashley she's psychotherapist and they have this thing called a sliding scale. So you know they may charge.

01:03:31.12

Max Shank

Ah, you can't purchase.

01:03:49.28

mikebledsoe

Two hundred bucks, two hundred and fifty three hundred bucks an hour as as a psychotherapist to their clients. But if someone comes in There's a certain number of spots they have allotted that they're allowed to go down in a sliding scalells like you know I'm only in charge you a hundred bucks because I know you can't afford it in this and that and I look at it I go man. Ah, sliding scale is too narrow I want a sliding scale where I'm charging this person $3000 per hour and then I'm giving this person the thing for twenty bucks an hour or five bucks an hour or free ends.

01:04:20.22

Max Shank

Well, that just means you're good at drawing a boundary of what you feel comfortable with my my thing is people pay full price. Ah for what I'm doing or they pay nothing and I I I like that I like that idea better.

01:04:31.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that's that's pretty much I don't I don't do discounts either. You know.

01:04:39.83

Max Shank

Because um, when I was when I was coming up when I was just a young book coming up I was ah you know started out coaching people for burritos. So not a very high rate of pay per hour and then over time it went up. Fifty bucks an hour sixty buck hour an hour hundred two hundred three hundred an hou hou hour sixty buck hour an hour hundred two hundred three hundred an hou hou hour sixty buck hour an hour hundred two hundred three hundred an hou hou hour sixty buck hour an hour hundred two hundred three hundred an hou hou hour undred two hundred three hundred an hou hour um but I had grandfathered a few people in and I didn't and I did it too long I tolerated that shit because I thought I was doing them a solid and so I was training people at three hundred an hour and then I was training.

01:05:08.19

mikebledsoe

So yeah, yeah.

01:05:18.26

Max Shank

Ah, a couple guys. One guy was training it 60 and the other guy was training at 150 and I just remember I just remember being like ah I just had to draw the boundary 1 time and that's that's the ah the aftershock.

01:05:25.98

mikebledsoe

It's 20% and yeah.

01:05:37.92

Max Shank

That the other person experiences because I didn't draw boundaries soon enough. It's the same as in a relationship they were like whoa. Oh my god from 60 to 300 I was like yeah, it's like my bad because I was stupid and thought like to not raise your rates the whole way. So now you're 10 times more upset.

01:05:54.96

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:05:55.82

Max Shank

Because I tolerated and avoided it for so long and then also I'm not feeling good about those sessions where I'm making sixty bucks where the other ones I'm making 300 now now I feel like a charity case. It's like I almost subliminally want to do a worse job.

01:06:05.88

mikebledsoe

It's hard to walk away feeling good.

01:06:11.93

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:06:14.40

Max Shank

So it's more appropriate value like I want to like fucking abuse him or something you know what I mean like like if he's only paying sixty bucks but if I like hit him with a stick or something like I'll I don't know whatever it's like I think ah you know people probably beat their wives.

01:06:17.91

mikebledsoe

Ah, maybe I should be paying my trainer more Maybe that's what's happening.

01:06:29.36

mikebledsoe

You get a little resentment you start resenting them a little bit. Yeah husbands. Yeah.

01:06:34.21

Max Shank

People probably beat their wives for the same reason or beat their spouses or say mean things to each other I don't know it. It does seem like it always comes back to that clear setting of boundaries fucking accept it fully or reject it but don't tolerate it. Don't tolerate it.

01:06:42.43

mikebledsoe

Boy how did you? Ah, how do you have? How do you have that conversation.

01:06:51.37

Max Shank

How do you have it. You just got to have it. There's no easy way. Um, there's no easy way to have it. Oh um, I'll tell you exactly what is because I want them to like me.

01:06:54.48

mikebledsoe

Ah, but how do you do it? Not I know there's no easy way. Yeah yeah I mean it you know why? it's not easy by the way people people. Yeah well, there's that but there's there's like well there's.

01:07:10.29

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:07:12.17

mikebledsoe

We we play out the worst case scenarios in our minds before the conversations I find that the conversations are rarely are as bad as what I think they might be so it's all the time leading up to the conversation is that suffering The conversation itself is actually not that bad.

01:07:14.25

Max Shank

Now they hate me.

01:07:24.40

Max Shank

Totally well and if you're more and it's like more geared toward looking out for the negatives most high performing guys usually are Anyway, they're looking out.

01:07:30.41

mikebledsoe

Totally.

01:07:36.97

Max Shank

What are my weaknesses. What's the worst case scenario I got to look out for and you just play this probability tree in your head like you've probably and folks listening like played out different ways. A conversation could go before you go have it right.

01:07:47.20

mikebledsoe

Totally it almost never goes the way I think it will like I'll I'll I'll like these are the 5 different scenarios and then the sixth one that I didn't think it pops up.

01:07:50.95

Max Shank

You're like okay maybe there's like a 20% chance this will happen 40% chance this.

01:08:01.80

Max Shank

It almost always goes the way I think it will I'm not just trying to like bullshit either like ah probably because I think about it too much too much. Ah, but yeah.

01:08:07.57

mikebledsoe

Maybe maybe I find that whether I thought through it or not really doesn't matter about the outcome you know? yeah.

01:08:20.57

Max Shank

I think that's typically the case also that I would agree with um, at any rate it's it's the same. It's like I made a mistake I ah I'm charging this much now you're the only one you and None other person are the only people paying this. I don't feel comfortable doing that anymore. So this is the new rate if you want to continue great if you don't also great. Ah, no, not those not those None other others did ah just like the.

01:08:39.64

mikebledsoe

Did they stay.

01:08:47.62

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, the the gap wasn't so big.

01:08:53.53

Max Shank

Late I mean between 60 and like a couple hundred is ah a gargantuan amount that person ended up that person ended up paying a None and working with another coach so he still stayed with the gym but he like yeah um.

01:08:57.70

mikebledsoe

That's a big jump. Totally Okay, that's even Better. You probably still took home the same amount without having do any of the work.

01:09:10.97

Max Shank

Yeah, is way better. Um, ah, but once again like I'm I'm in a lucky place because I coach people because I I like to not because I I have to and when you have to it feels like you're less able.

01:09:18.70

mikebledsoe

Bright new.

01:09:27.77

Max Shank

To say what's really on your mind and draw those boundaries you're like fuck I I want to draw I Want to set good boundaries but I need the fucking burrito like exactly um, same same thing with having ah resources available time money which is.

01:09:32.46

mikebledsoe

Right? right? hungry None

01:09:46.96

Max Shank

Ah, claim check on other people's time. Basically I don't know if you ever heard that term I Love that concept. Um, you know when things go a little bit haywire like they have in the world. Economically if you have resources available. That's the time to capitalize because ah.

01:09:47.94

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah.

01:10:06.71

Max Shank

Basically who whoever needs does not have the power and whoever does not need has the power in any kind of.

01:10:12.95

mikebledsoe

True Dad Well when he I also want point out like when you say resources. It's not just money I think that in what what we're time well time as part of it but like the the ability to to ah perspective and how you're perceiving the situation.

01:10:20.12

Max Shank

Time time money effort energy.

01:10:32.81

mikebledsoe

Is Also really huge because in times like these one of the things that's happening is there's a massive shift right? The way I see it is We did a really good job of fighting to keep things the same for like 20 years. It's like okay, it's the same. It's the same. It's same I can expect this I can expect this I go to work I Do this kind of job. Expect expect expect and then we ran out of like the we we weren't able to hold the floodgates back any longer of change which the universe is just always delivering change and so more change happens.

01:11:03.21

Max Shank

4

01:11:09.82

mikebledsoe

More quickly than what we're used to which which looks bleak but the reality is is that we have a huge opportunity in those moments and if you can stay out of that lizard brain take some deep breaths realize and look around and say. Okay,, there's still a roof over my head I still got my iphone in my pocket and I got enough money for groceries. Maybe not all the groceries that I want to get but some of them so like okay all right? Well you're safe take a breath. Nobody's taking that away from you and what can you create? Can you.? Can you? Um, what problems are emerging in which you can participate in a solution and so there are there are and everything is at a discount right now too. So if if you're if you're right.

01:12:04.72

Max Shank

I Feel like I'm at the blue collar meeting now.

01:12:09.12

mikebledsoe

Ah, everything's at a discount So like um for somebody who has a resource of a big bank account. They can come in and swoop up and bite real estate crypto stocks everything everything's at a discount right now Commodities every.

01:12:24.74

Max Shank

Penny pennies on the dollar pennies on the dollar. Ah.

01:12:28.41

mikebledsoe

Well not all commodities. But um, a lot of things are a discount right now and they're going to get swooped up now if you don't have the bank account to swoop up and get these things then you have you have to use your mind and you have to use your time and your energy and your.

01:12:42.35

Max Shank

Energy reserves.

01:12:47.41

mikebledsoe

Problem solve the number None thing I want to point out is problem solving skills. What problem can you solve for other people because the more you can do that because what we have is we have an increase in problems right now. But it's not the same problems that we had two years ago so you got to change the type of work that you do if you really want to capitalize. On what's happening right now.

01:13:09.48

Max Shank

It's like who moved my cheese. You know that little management book. Ah, it's great is who moved my cheese is basically like.

01:13:10.26

mikebledsoe

Now.

01:13:20.13

Max Shank

If you lament that the cheese got moved. You're going to fuck yourself up. But if you just keep looking for where the cheese went off to you're going to find it a lot better. Okay, so like you you find the reward somewhere.

01:13:25.43

mikebledsoe

Hang on. Oh yeah, okay, an exits.

01:13:33.80

Max Shank

And then you go back the next day and it's gone. You're like what the fuck who moved my cheese and then you go on this tirade Meanwhile the other mouse is just like continuing to look for the cheese. So it's really about um so there's resource allocation which is how you use what you got and then there is resource.

01:13:39.65

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:53.58

Max Shank

Acquisition which is what can you? How can you trade that what can you trade for that. Um, and I would say that as far as resource allocation is concerned man if you were even like 50% efficient with your resources. You'd be very rich.

01:13:55.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:14:11.24

mikebledsoe

Most people.

01:14:12.27

Max Shank

Like you be fucking crazy rich. You don't have to do that much. You just got to do something that people really want and the more swings you take the more likely you are to figure something out but don't get um, don't get stuck in like None idea and think like oh that. This should work forever. Then you're the last guy selling horse and buggies in a street full of cars and you're fucked. You're like who moved who took away all the horses. What's going on here. My carriage business is fucked and it's like no, you got to adapt adaptability. So chief attribute of survival.

01:14:49.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, ah and this brings me back to feedback loops people are blind to feedback loops and that's why they wait too long to change and so one of the things I like to do with people is we create a ninety day dashboard where we're tracking.

01:14:50.44

Max Shank

Adaptability Change I mean that's that's it.

01:15:07.24

mikebledsoe

The work that we're doing over the next ninety days to take us specifically towards our goals and I just had a I mean going back and forth with one of my clients this morning where he he's like he's like why I have all this stuff that I've been doing but it's this other thing that's actually creating the result and he's like complaining they're like. Ah, he's like he's like I'm not sure this program is working I'm like this is a demonstration of the program working but you have figured out what doesn't move the needle and you figured out what does move the needle so on your on your ninety day dashboard

01:15:33.45

Max Shank

Hey.

01:15:40.67

Max Shank

Right.

01:15:45.73

mikebledsoe

Just take off all the shit. That's not working that's taking up your time and energy and put this stuff in that is working and do that instead and so the idea of planning out ninety days at a time and then doing the work and then getting the feedback if you've never done that the none time you do it. You're going to realize that 80% of the work you do is useless and then you you revise it in the next ninety days it gets a little better in the next ninety days it gets a little better and that's why I like to work with people for at least a year is because we get through 4 revisions. Or you know one None initial and None revisions of their ninety day ninety days of work at a time and within a year you've made 3 revisions. It looks pretty good. You got a good handle on what moves the needle but a lot of times you know.

01:16:34.82

Max Shank

You got to do your own experiments. You got to do your own experiments and you can't get attached to doing it one way or another what you said before was really good too. It's like you have ah why do people take so long to change it's because ah. It's unknown people prefer the familiar pain to the unknown, a lot of the time and that's why if you're afraid ah which is uncertainty about the future. Um in ah in a negative sense then the solution is curiosity which is. Ah, a happy uncertainty so fear is like a scary uncertainty and curiosity is like a happy uncertainty so you basically um, you know as a coach as a marketer as a fisherman you're basically trying to instill people. With that level of enthusiasm which is like a fire which is like inspiration There's a sense of excitement about the future I mean you can also just full on like scaretactic people into buying ah bulk food barrels and shit like that. But but but but even so you can get them. Curious and excited about how safe you could feel if you had 15 years of food in your cellar or some shit like that I don't know but ah basically you have the fear and the curiosity which is all about the future and then the past you have like resentment and nostalgia.

01:17:53.89

mikebledsoe

FF.

01:18:08.88

Max Shank

And nostalgia is kind of like a weird trap. It's nice. Ah, but actually I think um appreciation is a little bit better Nostalgia is almost like the past is better appreciation.

01:18:21.17

mikebledsoe

So yeah, you're wishing when I think about nostalgia is like I think about a good old day I remember I played that football and.

01:18:27.85

Max Shank

The good old days the good old days I remember I score 3 touchdowns in the single half it at that a has schoolll football game and ah Mvp ah fuck that head cheerleader and now I got a baby bubba junior. Yeah.

01:18:38.92

mikebledsoe

Ah, the.

01:18:46.39

mikebledsoe

I Hope I want to I hope everyone appreciates our range so takes a really special person to have made it this far.

01:18:46.80

Max Shank

That that is like the classic move.

01:18:57.71

Max Shank

Ah, it sure does I feel like there should be a special prize to anyone who who listens to this long.

01:19:03.60

mikebledsoe

Ah, if you're listening just let me know I I think the special prize is just is just me knowing that you made it here. That's really yeah.

01:19:14.60

Max Shank

Yeah, let us know what you want for a prize I mean we're good at drawing boundaries. So we'll tell you no but I mean maybe we'll say yes, no ask no get. That's what I have noticed.

01:19:19.75

mikebledsoe

We might say yes, yeah, here's the thing max and I want to give you something. We just don't know what it is. We don't know what you want and we don't know if we're willing to give it to you but you know yeah shit load.

01:19:32.96

Max Shank

That's fact, we're willing to give quite a lot I mean there are a lot of win-win opportunities out there. So I think one of the things that you and I ah definitely have a talent for is more result with less effort and building. Ah, launch ramp or a water wheel or a rocket ship or something that will really ah deliver a lot of results per the amount of energy put in and um, physically business wise too. I certainly enjoy doing that it feels pretty simple and straightforward. But that's probably just something about having like 15 years of experience with it. Yeah.

01:20:18.60

mikebledsoe

That helps you're 15 years in

01:20:25.41

Max Shank

Ah, into like training itself I'm ah like almost 17 but I didn't start well I started doing like free ebooks like about fifteen years ago like I I I took. Ah.

01:20:27.85

mikebledsoe

What about business.

01:20:36.74

mikebledsoe

Okay, we start about the same time then.

01:20:43.68

Max Shank

Ah I did I tell you about the real stoneliing manual at some point. Yeah, just fucking Sunglasses Jujitsu Rash Guard shaved head looking tough horrible quality photos ridiculous claims about lifting rocks.

01:20:44.25

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah.

01:21:02.60

Max Shank

It was just such the perfect stamp in time for how tough I wanted to appear it was. It's like awesome. Yeah yeah, and.

01:21:06.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, go Youtube that folks max shank lifting rocks I don't know what you search for to get there but that might take you.

01:21:19.30

Max Shank

Yeah I mean if you look at my Youtube channel and you go ah, here's a little easter egg if you go from ah like date oldest to newest. It's such a fucking trip I mean I was doing shit at Crossfit Enciitas back in the day. So ah, you know.

01:21:28.25

mikebledsoe

Oh yeah, ah.

01:21:37.54

Max Shank

That's the other thing I got I got to say like I've just tried so many things and the internet doesn't know about the fucking Encyclopedia of Colossal failures that I have been a part of but I think like also let me.

01:21:47.49

mikebledsoe

Yeah, ah.

01:21:56.65

Max Shank

Let me clarify even further the colossal failures often took about 10 times the effort of the things that were raging successes so like I've spent so much energy on some things and then they just like lose money lose more money. Take None of my time.

01:22:02.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:22:15.80

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:22:15.46

Max Shank

Lose even more money and then I fucking quit because so I've just hit my limit and then something that was like just a casual publishing of some shit that I wrote is a None times better. We're talking like you know 20 k launch. It took me a week to put this shit together. You know.

01:22:35.13

mikebledsoe

That's that's how the strong coach was it was very low effort big reward and while I was simultaneously I was running the strong crutch for close to a year and then I'm simultaneously launching a different company and the launching the company was like five weeks of

01:22:35.23

Max Shank

Ah, that kind of thing.

01:22:43.53

Max Shank

Um, yeah. Yeah, what.

01:22:52.29

mikebledsoe

Just felt like torture and then at the end had like a a really shitty launch and in the same month where I was I barely gave my primary business much attention. It had a record breaking month and I go I had to sit down with myself and go okay.

01:23:07.00

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:23:11.91

mikebledsoe

You're being silly just focus on the thing that works or we or maybe don't focus on just let it keep on breaking records without you working I don't know.

01:23:15.91

Max Shank

Yeah, it's like it's like thinking I mean we could get super philosophical here and just say let the universe pull you in whatever direction you're supposed to go but I do at the very least agree that the amount of. Effort that you put into something has very little to do with how the people like it I mean sometimes it's related but sometimes they're completely independent and also kind of like we were saying for the sacrificing and the suffering Ah don't don't imagine that you get more points. For working harder or longer or suffering more or not liking the shit that you're doing like you don't get points. It's it's like fake points in a fake game. It makes no sense whatsoever.

01:24:01.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah I said we are. We're almost an hour and a half in let's shut this baby down. Yeah you got any final thoughts here. Holy shit fishing poles and triangles.

01:24:08.29

Max Shank

Wrap it up. So ah, what's what's the topic fishing poles and triangles. Ah okay I'll so I'll sum up what I think um. Anyone can put together an offer an offer is going to involve some marketing which is basically storytelling and helping the person understand the value of taking the action you want and then of course there's fulfillment on top of that I would like to reiterate. That ah tolerance is the worst thing ever because when you tolerate something you're not rejecting it. You're not accepting it what you are accepting is a burden that will help grow resentment in your heart. This is a problem both relationship wise and business wise which is. Another. It's it's just a commercial relationship. It's still a relationship um give give people what they want and if you give people what you want ah don't expect if it's a little more challenging and and that's okay, too. Look for the intersection between what you love doing and what people put a high price on there's an even better venn diagram if you look up the word eki guy into Google images and. Ah, if you're always flinging your pole in the stream because you're always hungry. You're never going to have time to build a fishing boat or a fishing net or a rocket ship or any of that you can't build that stuff unless you know how to build it so you need plans to do it. But you also need to defer a lot of gratification into the future. Which if you're in lizard mode good luck. No chance you pretty much need to be in a more ah wizard-like state which means you need to secure the lizard love the mammal so you can free the wizard and you know performing at a high level like this is related to a lot of. Very simple things I like to use movement and music and singing and dancing to express and get into a flow state and I know I perform better just by getting better blood flow. You know, singing open ins the throat chakra there are all kinds of things you can do. But. Ultimately, you got to think about your resource allocation and that's what's going to lead to that resource acquisition if. That's the goal and yeah, that's that's that's what I got.

01:26:48.92

mikebledsoe

So good I'm not gonna add anything because that was was extremely comprehensive. Yeah yeah, you take your brain drugs today.

01:26:52.96

Max Shank

Um, yeah I fucking nailed it there I nailed it that was good. Great talk I Love I Love these talks by the way I don't care that no one's donated anything yet because there's so much fun.

01:27:02.90

mikebledsoe

People have offered I just haven't sent them our benmos but I ah.

01:27:09.36

Max Shank

Dude I'm starving over here come on dude just take care of it. Jesus fucking Christ man starving over here I'm giving you gold Mike I'm giving you gold. Ah.

01:27:20.19

mikebledsoe

I hope the guy out go to http://macsank.com he's got some products over there.

01:27:26.37

Max Shank

I.

01:27:28.58

mikebledsoe

Ah, and I have ah a live summit happening here in Austin Texas September sixteen through None It's an all inclusive retreat I ran out a summer camp got paleo chefs coming in and we start off our morning swimming in a spring. So um. Should come hang out. We can chat about business talk about how to get out of that if you're stuck in that lizard mode or even the mammal mode we can. We can help get you into that that wizard mode where you can create some shit. So. It's going to be awesome.

01:28:02.99

Max Shank

It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be awesome and now I want you guys to I Want you guys to contemplate. Ah how your relationship with pigs would differ if they could suddenly speak English Love you.

01:28:05.30

mikebledsoe

Can be better than the last one.

01:28:11.75

mikebledsoe

Oh that's right, keep that one in mind. Love you later.

Jul 21, 2022

Ice baths have expanded into wider markets in recent years with the emergence of Wim Hof & others preaching their benefits for the masses

 

Today’s guest is an Army Combat Veteran with a background in game theory & analytics for optimization; making him potentially the last person you’d think to be a leader in the world of ice baths and cold immersion

 

Listen in as he shares how their company is revolutionizing the industry and making ice baths more accessible for all

Jul 18, 2022

00:00.00

Max Shank

Us folk who call up customer support not knowing what to do sometimes turning it off and on again solves the problem and that's pretty weird.

00:10.23

mikebledsoe

Yeah I worked in I t in my late teens early 20 s and 9 times out of 10 that was the solution. So.

00:22.98

Max Shank

I remember recently maybe like a year ago getting a new router installed and like a wireless thing a router and a modem I suppose and trying to understand how that shit works is. Really there's a lot of shit going on back and forth between a lot of different places with that little box. It's insane. Um, sadly, it's one of those things I really don't feel like I've made much progress on I feel like I made a little bit of progress learning about.

00:44.89

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

00:50.27

mikebledsoe

It.

01:02.30

Max Shank

Computer coding plumbing that sort of thing. But as soon as you start getting into the the cell signals and the wireless linkups and where everything's going. It gets a little hard to follow.

01:14.10

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think ah well the basis of troubleshooting to be a good troubleshoter. Is you just have to understand how the system works in the None place it is binary all the way through it's it. But anytime like when I help Ashley with something.

01:25.13

Max Shank

Binary all the way through. Yeah, that's what's so interesting.

01:33.72

mikebledsoe

Some type of troubleshooting thing. Ah, it's ah it's basically because she doesn't understand how the whole system works. You don't know if check this and then this and then this um but we had um, we had a loss of water in our house a couple months ago I call the I call the city all this stuff. Guy comes out tells me I just need to clean my you know the filters and my faucets. Whatever that didn't work and come to find out that my hot water heater has some type of sensor that gets triggered when I have heavy rain that turns off the hot water heater. So.

02:07.95

Max Shank

Aha.

02:10.64

mikebledsoe

And' have I had cold water I didn't have hot water but I didn't didn you figure it out but there was a part of the system in which I didn't even know existed that I ended up discovering because there was an alarm going off in my attic where the hot water heaters at and it was faint.

02:11.92

Max Shank

Ah, hi yeah.

02:27.52

Max Shank

Aha.

02:29.81

mikebledsoe

So yeah, troubleshooting is an interesting thing if you don't if you don't know the system knows detail. It's going to be difficult to figure out what's going on but sometimes when you need the troubleshoot. That's when we figure out how something actually works.

02:43.18

Max Shank

Well, it's like the Layman doesn't even know what to check? let alone how to fix it. He he doesn't even have a checklist. You know if you at least have a checklist then you can maybe start somewhere and I think that's how I approach fitness. It's a little bit mechanical. Still.

02:49.69

mikebledsoe

Um.

03:03.20

Max Shank

Um, I feel like I'm torn. A lot of the time between just telling people to like go hike and dance and if you occasionally carry something heavy while you're hiking and climb on stuff. It'll all work out and then there are other times where I think of ah, a checklist for ah daily. Um. Movements that you might want to focus on like roll bounce balance crawl climb carry rub squeeze shake these different like little things that you can just check off None at a time and I guess it's good. It works for different personality types. But it's funny how they're sometimes very analytical like none you have this topic you have these 3 movements per topic boom boom boom very regimented and then other times I'm like yeah if you bounce around and shake your arms out. You'll you'll move your lymph so you're not in this stagnant toxicity.

03:41.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

03:56.54

Max Shank

And then ah you know throw £20 in a backpack and go hike and climb on some stuff and you'll be relatively good enough. Just go enjoy that.

04:03.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think that um you know this brings out the topic for me is structure and flow and if you don't have enough structure in place then finding flow is gonna be like flow that actually works So There's people who you know. Ah I'll see people preaching online about intuitive eating and and I go that actually doesn't work until someone has done some pretty like I'm an intuitive eater but I've done a bunch of hardcore diets where I've restricted myself heavily and I.

04:36.72

Max Shank

Right.

04:41.57

mikebledsoe

Tuned into when my body needs something or doesn't need something but the only you know if you were living off ice cream bars and and snickerdooodles then he's triggered folks then.

04:49.68

Max Shank

I Feel attacked.

04:58.55

mikebledsoe

Like your your a ability to tap into what your body actually needs is is diminished and so I think the same thing happens with with fitness like you and I both have a really deep understanding of like we've gone through like really structured stuff for so long that we worked on stuff. We would not normally have worked on. But now that we have we can tell like when I go in the gym I go yeah I don't work this this skill or this part of my body feels weak like I need to I need to shore it up and and do some stuff but I'm preparing for a spartan race. And run the beast at the end of September by the way anyone I'm doing a spartan race doing the world championships in Tahoe September Twenty Fourth anyone who or yeah, love ta ha any excuse to go so I'm gonna run the race and.

05:36.85

Max Shank

Is this a real story. You're gonna be doing a Spartan race.

05:45.60

Max Shank

I was just there last week oh my god get out of here.

05:55.19

mikebledsoe

Ceo of Spartan Joe Decenna he gave me an unlimited amount of free registrations for my friends who all want to run it with me. He said I could have 200 people if I want and so ah, by the way if anyone wants to go run that race with me the.

06:02.30

Max Shank

Wow in Lake Tahill oh my god.

06:14.75

mikebledsoe

Will be the strong coach team will be just Dm me I'll send you the links to to get registered and yeah I want to have like 200 people running that race. All of us start together finish together.

06:24.29

Max Shank

Wow Same t-shirts on everybody like a excellent little ah tribe cult something or other I mean look it's a group. There are a lot of words for group Cult is a bit of a trigger word right.

06:33.17

mikebledsoe

You know what? I just ordered a bunch of t-shirts we can do. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, our cult is the best and ah so we're.

06:42.69

Max Shank

But that's what it is None rule in every cult. Our cult is the best thou shalt have no other cults or cult masters above me god the beakram yoga guy same same same rules.

06:50.53

mikebledsoe

Yes.

06:55.33

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, ah yeah, probably so I'm preparing for that race and I've run it a couple times with very little preparation I did okay but I noticed that every time I run the race. The thing that bothers me the most is my knees hurt the last.

07:04.11

Max Shank

Or.

07:13.16

Max Shank

Of.

07:14.60

mikebledsoe

Quarter of it lot of downhill on rocks but I can make my knees stronger. There's things I can do to improve that My grip strength is definitely a limiter near the end. There's so much climbing so much picking and carrying things and um, like.

07:27.46

Max Shank

Interesting I am.

07:34.39

mikebledsoe

Overall cardio doesn't seem to be that big of ah a limiter I mean it it is but compared to just ah yeah, because near the end of the race you're picking up a None tire too. So you've run a dozen miles up and down hills carrying sandbags and buckets of sands and shit.

07:50.20

Max Shank

The.

07:52.00

mikebledsoe

And then it's like okay now flip this tire. So yeah, the the things I notice I'm like oh what I need to train for is I need to improve my grip strength endurance I need to improve my knee health and strength and I need to be able to pick up just heavy shit. And need to pick up something heavy every once in a while in in I say about three hundred pounds three hundred

08:11.78

Max Shank

How heavy we talking I think it's I think it's a great topic that we just touched on here because it's nice to get practical because kind of like it. It all comes full circle. It's very similar to. Knowing how to make a great recipe so you go from a guy who just chops up the vegetables to the guy who's assembling everything together the line cook and then you got the head Chef who's doing you know flavor profiles and combinations and he's the artist and that kind of ties us back to that intuitive eating.

08:44.69

mikebledsoe

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

08:50.26

Max Shank

You were talking about if you have no intuition to intuit like what the fuck are you doing like I've I've been really mindfully eating these twinkies and I'm really intuitively you know I feel like I could walk about None steps and burn these up that seems like a reasonable. Exchange you will never you I'm still surprised how efficient we are at utilizing at saving calories. Anyway.

09:13.33

mikebledsoe

Yeah, what you can um ho that makes me think you can hone intuition and the only way to hone it is you got to be paying attention to the results. So so the twinkie 10 steps thing. It's a great idea. But say someone eats twinkies does ten steps day after day after day and they just get fatter and fatter. Then if you're paying you go? Oh well so the intuition is something that gets calibrated and it gets calibrated by results. So the people who lack intuition.

09:38.35

Max Shank

Totally.

09:50.96

mikebledsoe

I find just aren't paying attention to the results because if you're paying attention to the inputs and the outputs then you're going to be honing that intuition. But if you're not paying attention to those things then you'll never have it and you'll just suffer and struggle through life.

10:05.50

Max Shank

Is it I think of it like intuition is a certain openness and then the way to hone it like you said is to take that intuition and harmonize it with your wisdom which is.

10:23.31

mikebledsoe

You know.

10:23.90

Max Shank

All the stuff that you've learned with respect to who you authentically are which which is some combination of your genes and your experiences and the weird stories you believe. But I think it's about harmonizing that like openness gut. Instinct Raw like Curiosity spark of inspiration. Whatever and then passing it through okay is this is this congruent on some level with what I have experienced and then from there having the openness to try something new or having the resolve to. Go is something that you have good experience with so ah, intuitive training is where I was going with it so we went intuitive cooking to eating to training now.

11:00.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, agreed but going back going back to Spartan Race and intuition and I I know that yeah yeah so now it's I know that I need to work on a handful of things if I want to enjoy myself on the race more I'll experience less pain and suffering I know I'm Goingnna finish. But how much pain how much pain am I going to finish it. So yeah, so.

11:18.67

Max Shank

Oh.

11:29.90

Max Shank

We all want that for you.

11:37.15

mikebledsoe

Basically just start mapping it out and I have an idea for like what things I'm going to train on one day's but I'm not writing out the specific exercises and if I get to that day and I realize I still haven't recovered from this or that or whatever I'm making adjustments along the way. So I got ten weeks

11:37.78

Max Shank

Um.

11:47.50

Max Shank

Um, so so you'll so you'll have ten weeks until that I mean look I'll take any excuse almost any excuse to go back to Lake Tahoe ah although as a rule I typically only run when I'm chasing something or being chased could I be a chaser I feel like that's more my nature honestly.

12:05.13

mikebledsoe

We can. We could make that work I think we should just find a really fast hot girl to run in front of you and.

12:17.96

Max Shank

I'll catch her so fast. It will be game over I'll I'll run one fortieth of the race. Um, no, but so is your checklist then for.

12:26.31

mikebledsoe

Oh.

12:34.75

Max Shank

You're let's say you're like filling in the gaps right? And that's another thing I would love to talk about at some point is the difference in mentality between just fluffing up your ego and a few certain things versus really looking for like really looking for. Where you have the ability to improve right? Ah, it's It's a checkup.

12:54.71

mikebledsoe

Well, that's why I run the spartan race every year I go to tahoe every fall and I run it. It's and it's an annual checkup I only have to go once a year and I know yeah.

13:04.31

Max Shank

Um, Dr Spartan Doctor Spartan Dr Spartan says he fucking suck it hanging.

13:11.19

mikebledsoe

Yeah, So it's like well it's a good check because there's very few skills that you're not going to practice out there. Um, So there's some that are going to be left off for sure. But in ah in a single day you're going to know a lot about yourself. And so I really love it for that.

13:30.39

Max Shank

Well here's ah, here's a little phrase I like it's ah done today able tomorrow done today able tomorrow and it's kind of a shorter version of if you don't use it. You lose it.

13:39.60

mikebledsoe

M.

13:49.53

Max Shank

And ah, a positive version. So I'm guessing for your annual tahoe checkup that you do almost nothing related to the spartan race for about ten months and then you do two months of like. Very dedicated training for it is that would you say that's correct.

14:11.46

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you're spot on. Maybe even let maybe more like eleven months typically this is is it's 10 weeks I'm I'm um, this is the most prepared I've gone in so far I even ran this past weekend.

14:17.24

Max Shank

Ah, you did just say eight weeks so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. But. Are.

14:30.72

mikebledsoe

And um I don't do that ah very often at all.

14:33.79

Max Shank

I I feel like you have this knowing that you can do nothing activity wise and still finish that Spartan race. Yeah I see it.

14:46.24

mikebledsoe

That's the problem. Yeah.

14:50.67

Max Shank

I Wish you guys could see his face right now.

14:53.28

mikebledsoe

Ah, ah.

14:56.80

Max Shank

Ah I was just thinking strategically if I were going to recommend to someone how to prepare for such an experience. Ah it wouldn't be the way that you're talking about. It's far from optimal in terms of a progressive.

15:03.82

mikebledsoe

No, no, no, it's definitely far from optimal. Yeah I Just want to not hurt I Want to see because last time my knees.

15:15.50

Max Shank

Adaptation right? So but not that bad right? like like ten months off a year hey I think that's totally a fair trade quite honestly, it's.

15:23.31

mikebledsoe

Yeah, like it's only one day of pain one one day of pain. Yeah.

15:33.36

Max Shank

It would be a lot of hours throughout the year otherwise but let's say you train five days a week for the next ten weeks is that about right.

15:42.37

mikebledsoe

Ah, we'll call it 4 But yeah, None is aggressive for me I'm ah I need a lot of time to recover.

15:45.15

Max Shank

Um, okay, so none a lot I was just thinking though if instead of forty days out of sixty days if you did. Fifty two days out of none what the difference in bet because that would be once a week just thinking mathematically, that's probably what I would recommend somebody do. But then again the thing I really recommend is move around a little bit every day. Why wouldn't you. It's like.

16:04.20

mikebledsoe

A.

16:18.66

mikebledsoe

Do yeah well I already do that. So that's why the that's why I liked. That's what I do I I move nice and easy every day and then when it comes to something like this do some sports specific training ramp it up.

16:21.87

Max Shank

It's like you get to make it's like you get to make deposits and compound daily instead of weekly. E.

16:36.26

mikebledsoe

And then I go back to being lazy. It's great. Definitely not running too far.

16:38.76

Max Shank

And not running too far I can I can run after a tennis ball or like a soccer ball or frisbee or something like that. But when it's like hey just run over there. Part of me is like why.

16:51.93

mikebledsoe

Yeah I like to I like to eat a little bit of mushrooms at the starting line and hang. You know it's a time to hang out with my friends in nature. That's that's really the way to go don't tell Joe that I do that the start of his race.

17:01.50

Max Shank

Nice and it.

17:08.64

mikebledsoe

Take performance enhancing mushrooms.

17:09.54

Max Shank

Yeah I won't tell him on our public podcast.

17:14.44

mikebledsoe

This is the members only section. What do you want to talk about today up out showing the nipple.

17:17.25

Max Shank

Oh there's the members only section hang on that's the nipples Lefty writing. Okay, if you have a formula that works you stick with it.

17:31.47

mikebledsoe

That's right, still don't have the membership side up you but we'll get there. Um, it's probably good that have a number of these banked since they' probably 15 toy minutes piece ah topics for today 1 um.

17:33.80

Max Shank

Perfect. It's coming.

17:46.73

mikebledsoe

1 that is on top of my mind is ah I don't know that's what fit in maybe this will be just good for the members only to to hear but my brother is currently in Washington d c on trial for January six yeah Yeah

18:03.10

Max Shank

Bumbom bum.

18:05.51

mikebledsoe

He is according to some bumbling idiots a domestic terrorist that is a very scary phrase.

18:11.77

Max Shank

Oh good God That's a scary phrase I've hey ah you're you're breaking up I I can't be seen talking to you anymore I'm out of here.

18:20.31

mikebledsoe

Um, ah anyways, yeah, um, he he got caught up in the crowd that walked into the the ah was it called the capitol building and ah.

18:31.80

Max Shank

Point life.

18:39.49

mikebledsoe

Yeah I was.

18:40.18

Max Shank

I'm sure that happened exactly the way they say it happened right? Sure it happened. However, folks say it happened come on I Hope he's okay I hope it works out. Okay for him.

18:44.99

mikebledsoe

Whoever they are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it. So that's he's in good spirits. He's um, yeah, he's my mom's up there with him and it's It's hard of my mom. That's the worst part.

19:02.20

Max Shank

Oh yeah.

19:02.80

mikebledsoe

Because I my brother. He's even my brother hat here's the thing is everything that I know that if justice prevails he walks away scott free but I don't yeah, we're not witnessing justice and you know that the United States department of justice.

19:08.60

Max Shank

Ah, but.

19:22.89

mikebledsoe

Doesn't It's like the opposite of that. So.

19:23.60

Max Shank

That was a big weight off my shoulders when I stopped expecting Justice to happen and then getting frustrated when it didn't now it's more like if it does I'm pleasantly surprised but I kind of have this understanding that it's a doggy dog world and some people use.

19:28.18

mikebledsoe

Um, to bonus.

19:41.99

Max Shank

Dicks and some people use language and really people are just trying to help some help each other out fuck each other over dog eat dog. Whatever it's fine like but don't don't live your life expecting like oh that's not fair. Someone should make this fair. It's like yo don't don't expect that.

19:59.20

mikebledsoe

That's you're gonna be miserable if you think if you want things to be fair.

20:01.74

Max Shank

I lived that I lived that life a man in search of Justice got fucking idiot.

20:06.71

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, so that's going on this week so I'm going to be I'm lucky that I'll be spending the majority of my time this week hunting. So I won't be cut up and I'll be off off grid for a few days.

20:19.51

Max Shank

A.

20:24.50

mikebledsoe

I mean I wish I could do something support him I Really don't have any like he's kind of like where he's at. There's not really much I can do at this point. So.

20:33.49

Max Shank

There's a lot of situations like that where people say what's going on. You really have nothing to add. You're like I guess talk to an attorney and no one else and don't say anything and that's it like what else can you do.

20:43.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, um, yeah, have no idea. So yeah, that's an interesting thing So I'll be I'll be witnessing that and probably getting messages through the family text message thread. Yeah.

20:47.64

Max Shank

Yeah.

20:56.21

Max Shank

While while you're hunting What are you hunting for.

21:01.54

mikebledsoe

Wild boar. So um.

21:02.71

Max Shank

And your true self.

21:07.64

mikebledsoe

My truest self I ought for sure. So yeah I don't know that really I mean that's not really a topic I think I part I already said everything that there is but it's all my mind. So no.

21:10.13

Max Shank

Ah.

21:18.38

Max Shank

Um, definitely something on your mind though Yo that's a man, especially for your mom too. That's tough.

21:28.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, real tough. Well he he also has 2 daughters. So yeah, yeah, it's ah.

21:32.20

Max Shank

Oh my God they opened the door for him did he knock down a door. No come on you walk through a door. What's the big deal.

21:40.83

mikebledsoe

No, no, they walked through a door that police officers were holding open. There's it's ah it's pretty ridiculous. That's and it's ridiculous.

21:52.12

Max Shank

Yeah, that's what I mean it's like let some lawyer do that I realize it's like ah mathematics is so that you can explain more with less and law is so you can explain less with more. It's like the exact opposite.

22:08.38

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

22:12.40

Max Shank

Of the language of the universe. It's such a fucking cluster fuck. It's disgusting that that's where my shadow self comes out. It's like oh let's just skin those fuckers alive for abusing the language to rape the people.

22:17.11

mikebledsoe

It's it's disgusting.

22:24.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well if you if you're initiating violence then I think that it's in who are you know whoever is experiencing the violence from somebody else has a right to defend themselves and I think what we have is a bunch of people who've twisted up some words that.

22:37.36

Max Shank

Hundred percent

22:43.76

mikebledsoe

And then convinced these people who are supposed to be peace officers to go conduct violence and it's ah it's really frustrating. It's really frustrating situation. Yeah, it is outrageous. Yeah.

22:50.10

Max Shank

Um, it's outrageous. Yeah I mean it all depends what you compare it to like before the King could just say off with his head and you're like huh This is I get this is better than that for sure like it's way better for a lot of reasons. But.

23:04.58

mikebledsoe

It is better than that. Yeah, the the principles the same. The principle is the same. Yeah.

23:09.48

Max Shank

You know, still you got to hold the line on some level right? and I think that's what you and I that's kind of what you and I talk about right is it's not that like we want to help people free themselves like I often say I don't want to be your mama like I don't want to control anybody I don't want to be responsible for them either. Like I don't think that's a ah good trade. That's what makes these folks who think they know best for everybody their existence So sad is they believe that at some point they will finally feel safe or good enough or whatever when they tell enough other people what to do with their meddling ways. But. You know it's just never enough and they're always feeling totally um at odds or at War within the present Moment. It's pretty fucked up actually.

23:56.63

mikebledsoe

It makes and makes it for those of us folks that just mind our own business. Just yeah, it can be irritating. But if you get really good at mining your own business. They usually leave you alone.

24:10.64

Max Shank

Yeah I would agree with that I think ah like most people that just leave alone I mean minus like the the fractional. Slavery that we all participated but there are positive aspects undeniably. So It's done horribly bad but there are positive aspects so you like got to keep that optimism though. Maybe no no opt fuck man.

24:24.00

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

24:34.10

mikebledsoe

Yeah, maybe we'll see yeah walk. Yeah.

24:41.37

Max Shank

If you have no optimism you just don't do anything. That's that's the line is if you don't feel like there's a hope or belief for something positive in the future. Even if it's like I'm going to paint a picture later make ah sausage macaroni and cheese. You know you you got to have some. Ah.

24:58.57

mikebledsoe

Yeah, what I I think I think the reality of it is is like we we look at the entire system and it's and it's really gross, but the what I look at like the the way we got here is because people didn't stand on principle.

25:00.71

Max Shank

Belief or hope for the future.

25:17.49

mikebledsoe

Ah, long time ago and so this thing is blood so far in and if you try to take it back on principle all the way back to where it should be to where the consent you know I give consent or not if you take it all the way back to the principle which is what happens is people snap out of it and go oh my God I never gave consent.

25:24.37

Max Shank

Um, right.

25:35.44

Max Shank

Right.

25:37.19

mikebledsoe

And ah, you know they realize they're being rape and they then they go Oh I'm going to draw the line back where it should be and that's jarring like Society Society has a really hard time going adjusting to where things should be.

25:47.86

Max Shank

Right. Oh Man So true.

25:54.97

mikebledsoe

And yeah, so we got to like when I look at I go. How do we like stare step this thing back gradually the same way it got in which is going to be way harder to do than how we got here. It's kind of like losing weight so much easier to get fat.

26:10.27

Max Shank

Yo you know what? it's like it's exactly like someone finally drawing boundaries with another person and the person who has been infringing on the boundaries unknowingly.

26:20.20

mikebledsoe

Right.

26:27.67

Max Shank

Because that None person has not been drawing those boundaries. They're totally shocked. They're like whoa this is a completely different person because it's such a big separation from that false ah boundary that you had that false front. Um.

26:40.91

mikebledsoe

Yeah I what do you want? Do the show today. You want to do boundaries I know if we did boundaries or not yet.

26:48.35

Max Shank

Ah, probably I mean I think the the power of no is like None of my favorite none principles concepts and um, ah. Feel like I almost drone on about that all the time but that's almost the only important thing is like can you say no and then can you can you hear No the no callous. Um I don't know if that's a full topic but we could talk about tahoe.

27:15.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah, all right I like that the power of no, we don't have to go. You know we have to go like an hour hou hour hou hour fifteen every time we can just say the power of no and we got the.

27:31.38

Max Shank

Have we done the power of no before.

27:31.97

mikebledsoe

This section which is almost a half hour already I don't think so I don't remember writing that one down. Yeah.

27:37.43

Max Shank

Ah, okay, well let's let's try a power of no slash like tahoe. Yeah, sure.

27:44.79

mikebledsoe

Yeah, all right? you want can get off.

27:52.65

Max Shank

Oh you mean like right now. Okay hey everybody welcome back to Monday mornings with max and Mike Today we're gonna talk to you about the power of no and the power of 1 of the most beautiful places ever. Lake.

27:53.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, like right now.

28:12.56

Max Shank

Tahoe on the border of Nevada and California thanks for tuning in everybody mikey. Thanks for joining me again.

28:19.00

mikebledsoe

of course. of course so um we're going to get that power of no, but yeah, just a quick quick note I will be arriving in tahoe the week of September Twenty four to run a spartan race.

28:26.98

Max Shank

Are.

28:36.90

mikebledsoe

And anybody who wants to join me. They get a free registration Joe Decena the Ceo of Spartan Race basically gifted us as many registrants as we want. So if you want to run the race with me shoot me up in the Dms and ah I'll be prepping for that I don't know if I'll be posting my training. Ah, hate posting training online but people fucking. Love it.

28:57.25

Max Shank

I want to see tupper wares fully your food all lined up in a row for this I want to see you get serious like 1 of those like actual you know, athlete folks. Ah.

29:11.60

mikebledsoe

I I kind of enjoy I enjoy that I don't have to do that and I'll still beat some of those people like I remember I remember.

29:20.57

Max Shank

Um, oh yeah, we know? ah.

29:26.24

mikebledsoe

Remember 4 was it four years ago I was running the race and I had ah None my buddies with me and 1 of the guys he bought and sold cannabis for a living so he may or may not have been classified as a drug dealer now we halfway through the race. My edible. Was wearing off and I was like oh no I'm feeling sober and he looks over and pulls out a little plastic wrapped joint and whips it out on the trail we blaze it halfway through gets me through the end of the race and um.

29:55.36

Max Shank

Wow. Um, how long is this race. Oh a spartan race is eighteen miles holy god

30:03.46

mikebledsoe

Eighteen miles well they have different links but this 1 is eighteen miles with four thousand feet of elevation climb. So.

30:15.96

Max Shank

Sounds horrible.

30:18.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's pretty largerous and you're gonna do a swim at the top. It's it's like ° at this pond at the top of the hill they say 21 k but it could be as long as some years. It's longer than others but the year they.

30:22.68

Max Shank

Jesus None obstacles for this spartan race. Um, good god.

30:35.26

mikebledsoe

The year that they told me it was gonna be thirteen miles and end up being 18 Ah so at least well it's 30 obstacles. So it's we'll say it's thirteen miles so hop marathon plus thirty obstacles.

30:42.96

Max Shank

Dude, that's that's like a None marathon at least is what we're talking. We're talking about a None marathon.

30:52.92

Max Shank

Oh.

30:54.39

mikebledsoe

Where you're carrying heavy things up and down the mountain. Ah, you know, maybe a hundred to two hundred yards at a time. So it's.

30:58.73

Max Shank

Wow I'm interested to look into the obstacles a little bit more it sounds exciting but it doesn't sound like what I would want to actually do it. It does seem more fun.

31:12.67

mikebledsoe

Yeah I mean that's why I.

31:17.99

Max Shank

Then a race I saw that went through Death Valley 120 or something miles finished started in Death Valley hottest place in the world and then finished at the base of Mount Whitney in California and I just happened to we just drove through it. On the way back from tahoe and we saw these ah skeletons covered in ah bright white underarmor clothing from head to toe stumbling. It was just I was just thinking I can't think of a worse. Ah, athletic event than. Ah, hundred plus mile run through Death Valley that's obscene to me amazing that we can do it amazing that people can push to that limit.

31:57.25

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. It is obscene. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, well anyways, yeah, a few years ago I ran the race. We peeled off smoke the joint and there were half the people running by were jealous and the other half were disgusted.

32:21.87

Max Shank

Yeah I think it'll be a different percentage now. Probably I think less discussed more more jealousy. It's one of those things.

32:23.28

mikebledsoe

That we would do such a thing during a race.. What do you think?? What do you think it's going to be probably probably people people are having to learn how to enjoy themselves and the people that are gonna come out in race right now. Probably. Ah, a little bit looser.

32:46.89

Max Shank

I'm surprised that ah Spartan had that many prudes Anyway I think it's more of a judgment call because I bet there are a bunch of booze bags judging that right.

32:53.20

mikebledsoe

I Don't you know I don't know I don't think so I think a lot of them are pretty clean.

32:58.29

Max Shank

I Mean not personally like you know I'm not into kink shaming like whatever you want to do coffee ah cocoa puffs like that's a cereal right? Coco puffs like chocolate Chocolate Mu Balls essentially.

33:15.61

mikebledsoe

It's a it's a dessert disguised as a breakfast.

33:17.67

Max Shank

But food is drugs. Coffee is drugs alcohol is drugs weed is drugs you might as well take something that's going to make your endurance better I mean that's that's definitely something right? That's what you're talking about that's what weed's for endurance. Wow.

33:30.70

mikebledsoe

That's what the weeds for yeah oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, um, t hc binds the same receptor as ah, the name of it is eskating me but it's up. It's it's what causes the runners high and so Tc binds are the same one so you basically fall into that groove a lot sooner and the more time you spend in that groove the better your endurance is going to be because your nervous system is in a rhythm and it's.

33:48.80

Max Shank

1

34:03.29

Max Shank

Um.

34:04.90

mikebledsoe

It's calm and you're breathing really well and so ah, yeah, cannabis is ah you know amongst the people who know about it. There's a lot of endurance athletes who use it and it's it's great for that. Not great for picking up something heavy None time or moving incredibly fast. But for for repetitive motion over a long period of time. It's ah it's a wonderful substance.

34:31.63

Max Shank

Um, definitely an endurance performance enhancer.

34:36.51

mikebledsoe

Yeah, one of my favorite things to do when I was living in California was eating edible wait an hour and then just go run on the beach until I got tired I like go run on the beach I'd get tired I'd go swimming I'd run a little more go swimming crawl around.

34:53.80

Max Shank

Um, sounds pretty complex and scientific ah program design there. Ah.

34:53.88

mikebledsoe

Ah, was fucking weird about there.

35:03.81

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, um, you do we want to get in the power of no.

35:09.15

Max Shank

Yeah, because you need to set some boundaries so that you can make your spartan race training a little bit more serious none of this like I'm going to sit on my ass for ten months and then just train for two months we need. We need to set boundaries. For spartan training year-round. It's time for you to take this seriously.

35:30.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah, Well I Think what you're getting at is you know when I when I think about boundaries and the power of no like boundaries is your ability to say no and there's internal boundaries and then external Boundaries. So Most people I find that I get ah angry when I. When I cross my internal boundaries I might project that out on somebody else, but the yeah the internal boundaries I got to tell myself no to staying up late when I know I'm gonna train the next day I gotta be able to tell myself no to eating that donut or whatever it is and.

36:00.44

Max Shank

On here.

36:07.55

mikebledsoe

That can be really really difficult. But I think that at the core of that is really good I'm surrounded by good stuff. It's um, it's unfair.

36:08.92

Max Shank

Especially if the stuff is really good like like saying no to broccoli is way easier than saying no to crack probably probably I think ah.

36:18.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah I. Oh Man I Once had a friend who had tried crackout and he was like dude you should definitely try it because it's so good and don't know like make sure you don't know where to get more because you'll go get more. Oh go. Okay.

36:43.00

Max Shank

Um, I mean he clearly doesn't think you're a very good detective but like you have this mind altertering experience. That's like nothing you've ever had and you're.

36:43.61

mikebledsoe

That sounds like I'm not going to try it. Yeah.

37:00.30

Max Shank

Willingness to do some detective work to find someone is like 0 I mean you could find crack.

37:02.96

mikebledsoe

That's what you got like have someone drop you off on a desert island for like a week and then you know hit it on the first day. So I think that's the way that's how you have to go.

37:11.92

Max Shank

Um, how to do crack by Mike Blood so how to ah.

37:17.74

mikebledsoe

Um, but yeah, going back to the boundaries. The no is like telling yourself no is basically parenting yourself most people don't have good internal boundaries and they do a bunch of shit that they know that if they let children do that same thing. They would be doing that child a disservice.

37:41.20

Max Shank

I've heard that when you can parent yourself is when you are considered an adult. That's one definition that I like of it I'm I'm not there yet myself. Um.

37:46.79

mikebledsoe

Yep. Um, that's a definition I like to run around with.

37:56.50

Max Shank

With everything ah or or or am I I mean something I think about is like you're really just making bets cost benefit analysis. So as long as you're getting what you want out of it. That's.

37:56.51

mikebledsoe

No, not with everything I think it's a lifelong thing adulting.

38:15.15

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and over time though.

38:15.58

Max Shank

It's all good like do I drink too much coffee. That's that's a question I've been thinking about lately because I drink a lot of coffee maybe like four four ah diluted cups a day.

38:22.32

mikebledsoe

Why have you been thinking about it.

38:30.70

mikebledsoe

So what? What? What? What? Why could that? be bad for you.

38:33.12

Max Shank

Pour in oh I have no idea I mean I've I've read into like some of the reasons why but I just wonder if it's if it's worth being such a regular part of the routine and and there's not really ah, a clear and definitive answer on it.

38:49.00

mikebledsoe

I think that coffee was popularized as a healthy thing by bulletproof Dave Asprey did a really good job of making it. Okay, um oh yeah.

39:00.88

Max Shank

Um, you think so I thought I thought it was like reasonably healthy before.

39:06.71

mikebledsoe

Um I don't think it was held on the same pedestal I mean it's considered like a health product. At this point if you buy the right coffee you're drink you're drinking the smart intelligent healthy coffee. But if you drink the other coffee. You're just a.

39:14.91

Max Shank

In.

39:20.99

Max Shank

Um, well, it's like how about smart water. How about that brand Are you kidding me as Genius The bottles are very liked by hikers because they're pretty sturdy and very lightweight but we were thinking about the branding of smart water.

39:25.66

mikebledsoe

Yeah, muggle.

39:31.57

mikebledsoe

Blew it away.

39:40.92

Max Shank

That that takes a lot of balls right? Smart I mean you would think someone must have thought of that before but look at that smartwater the smart coach.

39:48.50

mikebledsoe

Maybe maybe I should have called my business. The smart coach instead of the strong coach.

39:58.97

Max Shank

I Mean technically that's more what you would want.

39:59.00

mikebledsoe

Ah, the smart Coach fuck.

40:03.36

Max Shank

You just have you just have pictures of these like really buff idiots. Ah I ah man. Okay, so look boundaries being able to say no.

40:12.35

mikebledsoe

Ah, er.

40:23.30

Max Shank

To yourself is that's basically wisdom right? because you're not going purely off instinct and we talked a little bit about intuition and instinct in the pre-show today right? Well, there's a pre-show and you'll see my nipples.

40:34.10

mikebledsoe

Ah, we didn't mention the pre-show.

40:42.69

Max Shank

I at least show them on camera. So if you're listening, you'll know when they're there and we talk about some pretty cool stuff I liked the pre-show today.

40:50.17

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the pre-show was loaded with good content today and and personal sharing information. so yeah yeah yeah so um at some point.

40:59.95

Max Shank

That's true. There was some good personal sharing. It's like a little therapy session for all of us there.

41:07.75

mikebledsoe

The bloodsideher dot Com I'll have a link set up so that you can get access to the ah the membership site which will be donation based. That's all all back to boundaries.

41:13.65

Max Shank

Um, Boom back to boundaries boundaries with yourself say no to drugs such a funny phrase right? I mean that's why I always love coffee as the example, right? they're they're talking about like crack and that stuff. Um. Being able to say no to other people is not a skill that everyone has. They're really concerned that people won't like them anymore if they draw the boundary they actually want and what's funny is sometimes that's true because you're growing up. People are pretty immature. And then you're an adult and people are still pretty immature and if you do something that someone doesn't like they'll treat you different. So It's normal that you would try to be either accommodating or more dominating in order to get.. It's like whatever ah strategy you learned. And so if you're one of the accommodating Types. You're going to feel really nervous to say no to people and I can I can take a lot to get back into the rotation and like I said earlier the people who you draw those boundaries with suddenly are going to feel ah like whiplash.

42:14.92

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

42:29.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the um yeah, you're you're when you set a new boundary or you know, maybe it's a boundary that you've had internally that you've never communicated and then you say you know what I'm going to communicate this boundary right now and people.

42:29.30

Max Shank

There's gonna be a shock.

42:48.33

mikebledsoe

Are expecting you to behave a certain way and when you verbalize a boundary for the None time you break that expectation and when people expect something to happen and it doesn't happen. They get they get attached to whatever story that. They have you in and when you when you fuck that story up by setting a new boundary. They yeah is really interesting how they might respond I think that's one of those things where ah that I've learned through a lot of the personal development work I've done is. I I might come out of a workshop and go. Oh Yeah I I have not been I discovered this boundary I've had I haven't been communicating it and then now my homework is to go communicate it and the process of and it takes a lot of courage to do that because the process of of. The unknown like by doing that you're stepping into the unknown you have no idea how the other person is going to respond and it's going to cause that person some level of stress consciously or or subconsciously and that's to me the practice of surrender is really. Saying what's true for you and then just again, we go back to paying attention paying attention to what how people respond to that and then adjust from there but there's no way to predict how someone's gonna ah respond to a new boundary I say most of the time when I'm. When I have a worst case scenario in my head about how someone's gonna respond to me. It almost never comes True. It's like that. The anticipation of how this person might respond to this is way worse.

44:31.54

Max Shank

Right. Well I've been holding back a lot. Actually I don't want to hurt your feelings you seem sensitive to me. Ah, all joking aside, um I agree with you completely.

44:43.47

mikebledsoe

Ah I am very sensitive. Yeah.

44:55.10

Max Shank

I think that when you are used to being accommodating and I'm not saying it's bad to be accommodating, but basically you fall into what I call a predictable strategy. It's just a predictable strategy or predictable plan. I learned that if I do this thing then I get this response and like you were saying we prefer that known pain or discomfort of not being true to ourselves to the unknown of holy fuck will will this person say that they hate me will they tell me to go fuck myself if i. Draw the boundary that I actually want to draw and there's even that that Mark Twain quote because I know you're big fan of Twain. He said that his tailor was the only reasonable man he ever met because he took my measurement new each time while everybody else. Measured me against who I was and I always thought that was a really nice None expectations not being met is kind of the root of all disappointment necessarily right? So people get mad when their expectations are not met. They get sad and their expectations are not. Matt but really, it's just an attachment to this future outcome and if you can get curious about the future to me. That's the best forward thinking mentality because it has a little bit of. Joy a little bit of excitement and it also kind of I think harmonizes the relationship with the unknown a little bit. It makes it a little more of a positive thing like when you say oh the storms can be unpredictable. You're like whoa. It's like a scary unknown almost. But. You're like I'm curious to see um, what the what the weather is like tomorrow. It feels very different. Yeah, so basically you're.

46:53.82

mikebledsoe

Very different energy.

47:01.72

Max Shank

By not drawing your boundary. You're admitting that you're attached to the response of the other person and and you think that is actually more valuable in your cost benefit analysis than saying what you really feel which would be drawing a boundary.

47:06.14

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

47:17.71

mikebledsoe

Saying No yeah I think I think um, ah yeah, big big part of the the pinch we're in in the world right? now is a lack of people I think sought out.

47:21.19

Max Shank

Yeah, it's pretty big. It's big month.

47:37.55

mikebledsoe

To be to to harmonize and to not rock the boat and so there's kind of like a death by a thousand cuts is like oh you know what? because values and boundaries go hand in hand this um that this value has been. You know I'm doing something or going along with something. It's not really in alignment with my values but it seems like the rest of the group want Yeah yeah, yeah.

48:02.98

Max Shank

The greater good the greater good the greater good. It's same old story man the great the greater good. You can convince people of just about anything if it's for some sort of greater. Good.

48:18.58

mikebledsoe

Um, how vague is the greater good like when people say the greater good.

48:24.13

Max Shank

What's more vague. Nothing is more vague. The great or bad I mean like it's It's a ridiculous phrase. It's this. It's this totally. Um, unscientific assumption that if you concentrate the decision making.

48:30.22

mikebledsoe

It's a ridiculous phrase.

48:41.76

Max Shank

To this guy. It'll be overall better off and we still don't know demonetized here. We come de you monetized. We still don't know if our ah emergency break reaction to whatever the fuck has been going on the last couple of years actually is better than doing literally nothing other than saying hey if you ah if you want to stay home. You can we? We don't know which would have been better and I'm not saying that would have been better but historically speaking. Ah. Bureaucrats usually make things about None to None times worse with what they do than if they had just done nothing and let people figure it out through consensual exchange.

49:34.70

mikebledsoe

No yeah, the the but I think the greater good thing is also interesting is I don't think most people see it as ah, giving control to a centralized group of people or individual. It's.. It's like um, it's when they say like they you know they say they're not even talking about an individual.. There's this.. There's this ominous so that's how I know that someone believes in God is when they they say things like the greater good like there's some. Magical being and my definition of God is different. But when I I run I Run I run into atheists all the time that believe in a in a being a magical being that knows what's the best for everybody and so.

50:12.34

Max Shank

So so it's like a unifying idea for you. Ah.

50:27.56

Max Shank

Um, does this magical being have a name.

50:28.79

mikebledsoe

But they're not. They're not even um, well it's it's probably whoever their favorite anchor is on the news or the you know or the newspaper that's in the the blue package the blue.

50:38.59

Max Shank

Here.

50:47.93

mikebledsoe

Rapper the New York Times you know as long as the New York Times said it you know now. Yeah, so it's like late they actually they they actually don't have. There's no end of they're not. They're not in recognition that they're even giving power to an individual because there's this.

50:52.94

Max Shank

I see Yeah so I God is like.

51:06.74

mikebledsoe

There's this mass media machine that is is spitting out this narrative and so anything. That's not that isn't for the greater good like that's that's in service of the greater. Good. So The fact that I think it's it's ah it's an interesting little trap that people find themselves in is because they're. Saying it's for the greater. Good. They believe it's for the greater good but they don't actually they're not I don't think most of those people are in recognition that they're giving power to a centralized control of people who who may not actually be that informed or that Um, what's the word I'm looking for.

51:27.67

Max Shank

Right.

51:45.43

mikebledsoe

Altruistic You know they they they believe that the people are doing the best they can. They're like them. That's that's the most that that's the they're like me. It's a lack of it's ah it's an inability for things like empathy. So the people who feel as though they're the most empathetic.

51:45.60

Max Shank

Um, right like them this they're like me.

52:03.49

mikebledsoe

Are usually the least empathetic because their their empathy is the projection of themselves instead of recognizing that people are different.

52:08.20

Max Shank

Well, it's elevation through depression like you have these victims and that elevates you you put yourself as the hero you have to put them as the victim. That's why I don't want to be anybody's savior. It's It's not a cool role.

52:22.92

mikebledsoe

No.

52:25.11

Max Shank

You know you don't want to be victims I don't want to be a hero just be a guy I think the way you're thinking of God a phrase struck me. It's intrinsic belief or intrinsic believability and that's kind of what God is. Like who who's your God is who you trust without really understanding. There's no reason to a lot of people worship money kind of like God or Worship. Um the state as a God Yeah yeah.

52:54.10

mikebledsoe

It's probably the biggest God I know of yeah, well when I say the biggest I mean the majority of the population is it. Worships money anything.

53:02.46

Max Shank

Way more people believe in money than believe in a Christian Catholic or whatever like any one of those.

53:09.00

mikebledsoe

Yeah, anyone well any any Christian like 99% of christians believe more in money than they do they do in the Christian god.

53:17.72

Max Shank

Oh snap smackdown.

53:22.32

mikebledsoe

Do you spend more time thinking about money or do you spend more time thinking about God where whatever you wherever you spend wherever you spent your attention is what you worship and that is your god.

53:27.19

Max Shank

Oh My God roasted I think you're probably right. Let he who is without Sin cast The None stone.

53:41.81

mikebledsoe

He.

53:43.20

Max Shank

Let he who is without sin cast the None stone. Oh you're you're calling out these non-believing christians for their lack of true faith right? they're they're pretending

53:47.12

mikebledsoe

Was was that in reference to.

54:02.15

Max Shank

They're pretending to love their religion but really they love money way more and they're not open and honest about that.

54:04.93

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a it's a something that makes people feel better about themselves.

54:11.44

Max Shank

Oh yeah, I mean and I think ah in many cases I've seen religion be super constructive for some people. So yeah.

54:18.39

mikebledsoe

I Think it's I think it's constructed for most people I think most people lack order in their lives. They they do want someone else to tell them what to do how to live their life. Most people have zero moral compass. Ah.

54:31.50

Max Shank

Ah, but they don't do it at the barrel of a gun right? I Think that's what I like better about religion is it still giving you structure for the flow kind of what we were talking about before ah you need to have that structure for the flow.

54:37.10

mikebledsoe

They're not.

54:48.14

mikebledsoe

And what you're saying is it's voluntary.

54:50.62

Max Shank

Um, yeah, it's consensual. It's consensual is awesome baby. Nothing's hotter than consent I think it's pretty cool.

54:58.63

mikebledsoe

The the yeah yeah, what I what I think is funny. Is you got a bunch of ah I was in a conversation last night about ah blue states versus red states and getting in the conversation now.

55:12.25

Max Shank

In like a fight. It would be no contest be over so quick. Can you imagine if we just reverted to like an all out battle every 4 years. Amazing.

55:17.51

mikebledsoe

Um.

55:23.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, ah the yeah.

55:30.83

Max Shank

Who we'd be more civil. The rest of the year too if we could just get it out. Not quite purge. Love not not purge like you know you get in the ring. You take a few punches with boxing gloves on.

55:34.76

mikebledsoe

Like ah like ah one day a year like the purge. Yeah.

55:44.52

mikebledsoe

Yeah, ah ah the reason I bring this up is like that the left and the right are interesting because like on the left. They really believe in consent when it comes to anything that's sexual in nature like there's but but when it comes to anything else.

55:58.12

Max Shank

Ah, yeah.

56:04.56

mikebledsoe

There's complete blindness to it and on the right? yeah and on the right they they want consent for certain things but completely disregard other things like people.

56:06.64

Max Shank

Um, it's like a mental illness both ways like how could you believe it's so weird.

56:19.61

mikebledsoe

I say this regularly like when people I'm talking to someone and they go what's wrong. Why do those people do this but then they do this. It doesn't add up and I go yeah most of what people are doing doesn't add up because they lack principles. They they.

56:32.44

Max Shank

Well um, almost everybody's a hypocrite on some level by the way like let's not put even ourselves up on like that high of a pedestal right? like everybody's working with that.

56:36.20

mikebledsoe

On some level. But percentage wise the amount of our life that we make decisions around are more principle based than the average person. The average person is going with Pop. Whatever's popular right? people go people want to be accepted by the group so they do what's popular. They don't.

56:51.78

Max Shank

God I Hope So yeah, true, true True true.

57:00.59

mikebledsoe

They're not running it through a filter of what are my values. What are my boundaries. What are my principle. What are the principles and by the way you don't get to choose the principles. The principles are are around us. Yeah, as I that's.

57:10.32

Max Shank

My body my choice across the board. My body my choice across the board that is what you're talking about that's why that's that's the only example because the only question the only important question just to cut through all this bullshit is who decides that's it.

57:17.87

mikebledsoe

A perfect example.

57:29.33

Max Shank

Do I decide or does some other guy decide. That's the only question that matters politically ever is who decides anytime it starts to get confusing. Just ask the question who decides and the argument crumbles for people who want to I don't know Gatekeeper A lady's vagina. People want to add some experimental fucking injections into your skin ah with the shortest track record of any kind of thing like that ever I mean these are both signs of mental illness to believe 1 about 1 and another about the other. It's ah. It's really weird. It almost forces people who are hyper left or hyper right to be mentally Ill like you have to shut off your thinking brain to think those are like some but.

58:19.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah there's um, you know we look at like Socrates and talking about what what makes someone human it was ah practicing having the practice of being in touch with reality being in greater contact with reality. And this and this inability inability to see ah the principle at play like just completely unable ah is is being out of touch with reality.

58:38.84

Max Shank

Pretty pretty nebulous.

58:46.20

Max Shank

A.

58:53.84

Max Shank

I Like the dune experiment for figuring out if he's a human where they put his hand in the pain box and say if he takes it out. They'll cut his throat with a poisonous needle so he has to withstand tremendous pain.

58:56.13

mikebledsoe

In which.

59:01.65

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

59:11.60

Max Shank

Thinking He's like sacrificing his burning hand in order to keep his life and I think that is kind of the secret to wealth and planning and any of that is can you see can you see the big picture. Can you see the forest for the trees and the trick is you can't see the forest. And the trees at the same time so you have to alternate you have to cycle you have to hone in like a laser on something and then you got to open up your awareness like a lantern and take in everything around you to make sure that you're still focusing your energy. In the right direction kind of like we talked about with structure versus flow structure as the pipe flow is water if you don't have ah that that rushing water channeled somehow. Well you're just moving along with the River and that's fine, but you're going to go in the same direction as the rest of the water.

01:00:03.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, and I the some my practice over time is I've had a easier time in my life being zoomed out than zoomed in and um I don't know if that's.

01:00:15.98

Max Shank

Are.

01:00:21.86

mikebledsoe

I would say that I could spend more time zoomed in I still spend more time zoomed in but I noticed that the amount of time I spent on considering when I think about expanding my awareness around something that lantern there's there's 2 ah dimensions to consider one is space and the other one is time.

01:00:23.57

Max Shank

Indian.

01:00:41.80

mikebledsoe

And so there's there's what's happening right now and there's what I want to happen in None ears There's also what's happening right now in the space that I'm in but what's happening in you know, Dc right now or just right down the street like how much. How much space can you consider and how much time can you consider when you're making your decisions when you're setting the vision. What how much can you consider? most people don't practice that expansion of time and space when setting the vision.

01:01:04.70

Max Shank

How many variables go into your decision making equation right.

01:01:18.30

mikebledsoe

Or making decisions. Um and because of that for anyone who is unable to do that. They're more easily to be controlled by someone who does do that.

01:01:29.19

Max Shank

Absolutely Um I think the average person is constantly pushed and pulled by a variety of forces to do things that are as frictionless as possible and for them as Motionless as possible. And those are forces. Um from a software engineering standpoint from a psychological engineering standpoint and also from an evolutionary standpoint.. There's nothing better for a curious lazy Monkey mind who's trying to maximize efficiency to just sit around and Watch. An Endless stream of crazy shit. So if you don't draw that Boundary. You're never going to pick your head up and ah like I'm not trying to call anyone out or anything but you see some of these kids these days. Fucking kids I hate that phrase. What am I doing that for these kids these days I feel old saying that feel silly I don't feel old until I talk like that. But basically they're like looking straight down into the telephone and it's adults too. Don't get me wrong while they're walking. Maybe they walk.

01:02:26.28

mikebledsoe

You're so old.

01:02:42.30

Max Shank

Into traffic. Maybe they walk off a cliff something like that. But it's the perfect visual of someone who's so ah, locked in psychologically onto something that isn't even really good for them and when we talk about drawing boundaries for ourselves like I'm going to say no to crack today every day I'm like. I'm going to say no to crack and every day I have so far and it feels like a little like a little victory like I didn't do crack again and ah if I do crack though. It'll be bad.

01:03:02.63

mikebledsoe

Yes.

01:03:10.84

mikebledsoe

We also you also have like ah we have a record breaking ah amount of kids on things like Sslris on antidepressants and anti-angolytics things that things that dep.

01:03:21.60

Max Shank

Yeah, those are good drugs Mike those are good drugs. They're just good for you. Everyone should be on those right? They're on the Tv isn't it like 75% of commercials pharmaceutical ones.

01:03:30.80

mikebledsoe

You know what's interesting is think about this? Yeah, it's It's a lot. Ah every news.

01:03:39.84

Max Shank

There's got to be something wrong with you. Are you watching the Tv there's something wrong.

01:03:42.48

mikebledsoe

Um, well,, there's ah, there's a theory that ah one of the reasons that the government is so friendly to pharmaceutical companies is that when under the influence of these these drugs that. People become docile way more easy to control like like please pass the xanax out please pass What I don't know these drugs are called anymore.

01:04:01.33

Max Shank

Holy yeah, totally totally.

01:04:09.90

Max Shank

If I was going to get a bus full of people on a field trip and I had the choice between giving them heroin or crack at the beginning I would clearly choose heroin every time they would be mostly still.

01:04:20.86

mikebledsoe

Exactly.

01:04:25.87

Max Shank

Could be like hey we're going over to this bench over here way easier to control that that doesn't surprise me one bit.

01:04:31.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, so yeah I've heard discussions of you know? ah the food supply being fucked up in certain ways intentionally as well to reduce the amount of testosterone that men have because.

01:04:46.70

Max Shank

When people get afraid also like a ah scared stoned guy. He'll do anything. He'll do anything you want that guy is scared and stoned. You're like hey I need your left leg but I'll protect you until tomorrow. Thank God you're here.

01:04:59.19

mikebledsoe

Yeah, could you imagine I was I was the last couple years I've just been thinking about people popping and all these pills and then watching Tv so you're you're popping pills and watching Tv you have no autonomy you you are.

01:05:03.20

Max Shank

Ah. Oh My god.

01:05:15.70

mikebledsoe

You are a hundred percent slave at that point and pc what's that.

01:05:17.73

Max Shank

Npc Baby Npcs a non-player character I'm ah showing my nerd card here. But ah when you're when you're playing ah an rpg or a role playing game I don't play a lot of them these days but there were some good ones. A non-player character is character in the game um played by the computer software. It's not another person like you or me it's just like a software thing and they they respond very predictably. You know.

01:05:45.78

mikebledsoe

Um, well isn't this like some somewhat of the premise of the matrix and.

01:05:50.65

Max Shank

Very much so the premise of the matrix even more so the premise of that was it free guy I think I saw it free free free guy. It's like ah ah no, no, no, it's deadpool it isn.

01:06:01.39

mikebledsoe

What's that oh is that the Markie Mark film Ryan ran oh yeah yeah I saw that.

01:06:10.55

Max Shank

Ryan Reynolds and he's ah he's like a video game character that comes to life somehow with some general ai code and it's kind of a fun like a rite of passage I guess his rite of passage is going from like a. Ah, computer character like ah do this I go to the bank. Whatever to like a regular.

01:06:32.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and he wakes up and he's like like something something wakes him up. Yeah.

01:06:37.63

Max Shank

Something clicks different I can't remember exactly what it yeah matrix same way as like wake up Neo and then so you're right.

01:06:43.57

mikebledsoe

Well, that's a think the thing that I that I that I um get curious about because I I think these movies are good. Analogies is in the movie. The matrix he talks about how like anyone who. Has not woken up yet has to be considered an enemy but you're also trying to turn them all the time you're trying to wake them up the whole time. So. It's a very.. It's an interesting.. How do you approach people who are the was an npg Npc how.

01:07:06.40

Max Shank

A.A.

01:07:20.57

Max Shank

Npc.

01:07:22.50

mikebledsoe

How do you approach Npcs with compassion. You know they're while also recognizing and when I now now that I'm speaking out loud I'm thinking they're not necessarily the enemy. They're just dangerous.

01:07:26.31

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:07:35.18

Max Shank

Yes, that you know it's funny. You said that because as soon as I heard the word enemy it felt wrong, but dangerous feels absolutely right? You have to set those boundaries like we talked about before but then that's where compassion and curiosity come in.

01:07:41.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:07:54.72

Max Shank

Like do you blame a dog if it was beaten its whole life and for me I look at folks and I just don't tolerate their behavior but I also don't like judge them as evil for it like I don't tolerate Behavior I don't want.

01:08:08.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:08:12.64

Max Shank

But it's not about that individual I don't judge that individual just the same way I don't judge the dog that had bad owners and you you think about how many generations of Shitty Shitty parents on every level not just biological parents. But also. The prevailing myths of the land and time that we're in the people on the Tv all that shit just generation of generation of people doing anything they can to like feel safe and maybe even loved. Let alone self-actualized fuck that for most people loves love is a stretch for most people and I think the more you ah the more a person is kept in lizard mode in that fight or flight the faster and less. Um.

01:08:52.89

mikebledsoe

That's terrifying. Um.

01:09:09.80

Max Shank

The faster they'll respond and the less ah thoughtfulness rationality and logic and wisdom. They'll use to make that decision. They'll just react fearfully.

01:09:15.98

mikebledsoe

Well yeah, because it's a reaction. Well one it's quick and 2 It's predictable like if you if you know somebody pretty well if you know an individual pretty well I mean we've all did this. Ah you know I've done this when I was a lot more when I was younger and I was a little more cruel.

01:09:22.89

Max Shank

Right.

01:09:35.71

mikebledsoe

Like oh watch this I'm gonna say this something to this guy and he's gonna fucking flip his shit right now and I would say it and they would flip their shit I'm like and I would get kicks it make me make me laugh. You know.

01:09:41.64

Max Shank

Oh really.

01:09:49.33

Max Shank

Ah, so you fucked with idiots for sport How very cool.

01:09:52.49

mikebledsoe

Well yeah I mean this was this was something in the Navy to like in the military. It's you know there's a little bit of like brotherly cruelty going on. Yeah I don't do it anymore. But but it it.

01:09:56.49

Max Shank

Um, ah I'm not saying it's bad. Yeah I think mockery is really good I think mockery is like a lighthearted form of criticism.

01:10:12.39

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it. It comes it. It comes with a lot of predictability though and I always love um, extrapolating the individual out to culture and so you have these people who've been studying How does society React. Society doesn't thoughtfully pause and respond they society draw cold is it? Ah yeah, yeah.

01:10:35.56

Max Shank

Fish Tail Fish Tail I think is the term for it when you over when you overcorrect if you're a skidding in the car and you overcorrect you start fish tailing a little more back and forth mm.

01:10:49.17

mikebledsoe

Why they always talk about the pendulum swinging in culture. So it goes from you know one side to the other. Yeah we definitely I mean just look at what ah went from Trump to Biden like as about as opposite as you can get right? It was a hard swing. It's it's not like they went from 1 person to the center.

01:11:03.97

Max Shank

Um, yeah, right.

01:11:07.91

mikebledsoe

And went like complete left wing puppet mode and um whereas Trump was the uncontrollable bull in the China shop and so it was like people were like okay I don't we don't like this mess I don't like like this makes me.

01:11:17.76

Max Shank

Any.

01:11:27.18

mikebledsoe

Uncomfortable like what's who's going to be the least threatening person who's just going to go along with everything possible. Oh it's this guy So like the fish tale The the fish tale like it's right. It's like that. There's an overcorrection.

01:11:33.20

Max Shank

Um, well ah man.

01:11:44.43

mikebledsoe

So does it. There's just keep swinging harder and harder like are we going to get like ah I think I think it I think I think the next Ronald Reagan is next in that case.

01:11:49.41

Max Shank

Typically I think that's how it works.

01:11:55.71

Max Shank

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that. But ah.

01:11:56.89

mikebledsoe

What was he yet. Ah Jimmy Carter he was a 1 term democrat the end of the seventy s he was probably he was considered the worst president ever by a lot of people and then um and then Reagan came along in just it was a landslide and ah.

01:12:08.20

Max Shank

And.

01:12:16.13

mikebledsoe

I mean I think who who's coming in next like yeah I'm just I'm just throw it out. There's like I think we're gonna see like a a pretty right winger come into Desantis. Yeah.

01:12:19.81

Max Shank

It's a good question. Yeah. Probably that Florida guy will win at some point in the near future. That's my guess he seems like like some kind of war veteran seems like pretty squeaky but I don't I don't really follow it I just have this understanding that. Along with the idea of god being intrinsic believability. We have the same thing with the wings. Unfortunately so as soon as someone puts on the blue t-shirt and says I'm on the blue team. Even even if that guy is fucking a rapacious idiot. Everyone with a blue t-shirt ons like yeah, we like that guy. He only fucking rapes those red guys like okay and then and then the red guys will do like the same thing and they're like yeah fuck those gay guys putting on wedding rings or whatever I don't I don't know exactly what it is but but it's stupid. It's like why.

01:13:08.92

mikebledsoe

I.

01:13:19.26

mikebledsoe

Ah, a.

01:13:22.59

Max Shank

Why we?? Ah, but it's um, it's specialization just like you get the Electrician to do your electrical shit because he has better specialization. We have this idea that someone will choose better, but that's just not the case. That's why you vote with your feet you vote with your dollars. It's never going to be better. The only. Like the smartest thing The founding fathers did was the separation of power separation of church and State Boom Boom right? off the bat that was huge and then they tried to separate the the state itself even more. So So you're trying to divide up the power. But of course the ultimate division of power is called.

01:13:49.73

mikebledsoe

Or they were boop. Yeah.

01:14:01.41

Max Shank

The customer. So the customer just buys. Whatever the fuck they want to and no one can force them to but whatever the pendulum swings I don't want to talk about fucking constitution every week Mike okay I get it.

01:14:12.65

mikebledsoe

Ah I want you did that to you. You did that to yourself.

01:14:19.33

Max Shank

I did to myself and I'm mad now.

01:14:22.38

mikebledsoe

Ah, he's so red in the face right now folks so red in the face. He's he's worked up.

01:14:34.68

Max Shank

Ah, oh God It's awesome.

01:14:37.46

mikebledsoe

Oh I know we're to take the show now.

01:14:41.31

Max Shank

We went off the rail so long ago we didn't even talk much about lake to Lake Tahoe was beautiful I was just there. It was really nice. It was one of the most relaxing times I've ever had I was there. Ah there four days ago.

01:14:49.20

mikebledsoe

What are you doing late tahoe. Ah, then we whip last you back here you got me on the show and just like.

01:15:00.18

Max Shank

I'm experiencing my boundaries being crossed really hard right now. Ah it was amazing I sat in a river at the top of a waterfall overlooking ah Lake Tahoe and Cascade Lake is 1 of the most beautiful views ever.

01:15:17.23

mikebledsoe

I Know what you're talking about where where do you? where do you like to stay when you grew up there.

01:15:18.17

Max Shank

So um, you know lately. We've been going up to ah heavenly. So right on the state line. Um I've stayed in a vehicle a couple times also and there's ah on on the Nevada in Nevada.

01:15:28.50

mikebledsoe

Yep, that's where I stay most of time I I used to say where.

01:15:37.35

Max Shank

So you know how there's that imaginary line between the places called Nevada and California you're you're legally allowed to sleep in a vehicle in Nevada so rent divan rent an Rv Boom Boom Boom Nevada site there are also like really nice campsites everywhere. But if you're just looking to. Ah.

01:15:38.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:15:56.60

Max Shank

To be there. You just go pop over to the Nevada side hang out there and then do whatever you want in the California side but usually a heavenly state line area on the southeast side is beautiful and that cascade falls in Cascade Lake overlook in ah. Overlooking like tahoe. It's one of the most epic views ever. The fact that you can just like climb in also and get that cool river running around you the sound the view. The feeling of the cold water. It's something that is truly indescribable.

01:16:22.70

mikebledsoe

Yep.

01:16:33.78

mikebledsoe

know know I stay heavenly most of the time when I go I go to 3 times a year I used to go to incline village a lot but which on the Nevada side. But yeah made some friends it really just depends on where my friends are located has.

01:16:34.78

Max Shank

With words. Yeah, it's awesome.

01:16:44.73

Max Shank

Um, that was where I first went to. It's totally man. It's not as ah pop in incline is more quiet for sure much much smaller town.

01:16:53.20

mikebledsoe

Because I got a friend and I got a couple friends and incline I got a couple friends and heavenly. Yeah.

01:17:03.42

Max Shank

Like if you want to like it state line. There are those like 4 or 5 casinos right? right? on the line where it's totally illegal to gamble versus where it's completely deeply encouraged to gamble as much as possible I love lake tahoe.

01:17:06.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:17:20.92

mikebledsoe

It's like heaven.

01:17:22.94

Max Shank

It is. It is a beautiful place I found the greatest breakfast burrito ever of all time. Ah at place called Ver Day bear day mexico oh man Teresa Breakfast Burrito I had ah addd 3

01:17:28.14

mikebledsoe

Oh yeah, ver day.

01:17:40.93

Max Shank

Of them in about 24 hours and they were not small, but if you find something that's good. You stick with it. So I'm like taking burritos on hikes now I ended up in a caloric surplus after all those breakfast book burritos.

01:17:52.76

mikebledsoe

There's a there's a place that does sells solely beef jerky over there I'm not remembering the name of it right now. Highly recommend it. Some of the best jerky I've ever had which is great for hiking when I go hiking I Usually just take beef jerky and honey with me just.

01:17:55.75

Max Shank

Is. Wow.

01:18:06.72

Max Shank

I Think you might get a lot of people going to this ah this tahoe Spartan I Think that's your I think that's your crew, a free entry come on. It is one of the greatest places I've ever been in the world and I've I've traveled a lot of cool places.

01:18:15.27

mikebledsoe

Free entry, beautiful race look and you can now you can now buy weed in both California and Nevada so you can join me on my I suggest thought you know if you're a newbie. 4 or five Milligrams at the starting line if you're a season veteran of of the cannabis game I'll let you make your own decision on how much you take. But I'll be taking around ten milligrams at the starting line and just enjoying the day.

01:18:45.80

Max Shank

Mike is gonna Mike is gonna be selling cannabis kits for the spartan race at the starting line that will get you guaranteed to get you from the start to the finish high as a kite.

01:18:54.13

mikebledsoe

That's right.

01:18:59.52

mikebledsoe

Ah, we're gonna set up a little station along the way is like just in case just in case your joint got wet. We're gonna you know, light you up ass it bring your cash folks.

01:19:02.46

Max Shank

That sounds fair. Oh my god but the price just gets higher every mile further along the road. Oh my gosh. But seriously if you haven't been to Lake Tahoe and you get the chance you gotta to go to Lake Tahoe is

01:19:14.94

mikebledsoe

We only accept Bitcoin actually.

01:19:21.28

Max Shank

Ah, beautiful, Beautiful place.

01:19:22.10

mikebledsoe

Absolutely thanks for selling it? Yeah yeah.

01:19:25.55

Max Shank

Yeah I love lake Tahoe is I think I've been back there more times. Ah, maybe than any other play like I love yosemite also but I just keep going back to Lake Tahoe even though it's an 8 our drive it just it's like nothing else. You can get a nice airbnb up there too for like none to 53 and then of course there's really nice stuff like 1500 ten K a night but for for two hundred bucks you can have a really nice. Base camp with view of the lake showers I'm I'm sold. It's it's maybe maybe my favorite place to actually go so power of no yeah power of no if you don't set boundaries people are going to tell you what to do all the time.

01:20:09.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah I can cur I can cur well wrap it up.

01:20:21.62

Max Shank

And you probably won't even notice because it'll just be a really enticing offer saying no internally to your own actions that continually fuck you up can be really valuable I think that goes all the way from crack to The. Cellular telephone which is just another way that we pleasure ourselves to take our minds out of the moment so we can go be somewhere else and then externally it can be difficult to say no to people. Because their reaction may be unpredictable, but ah, you don't you don't really have your own life If You're always just saying yes to everything. So if you draw those boundaries. Also you will be shocked at how much extra time you have here's ah, here's living proof that I do draw some boundaries. Well. A piece of fabric that I knitted just learned how to knit over the weekend. Pretty nice. You can see the excellent knit stitch there is where I cast on and then bind it off learning the new Lingo So ah, juggling.

01:21:20.53

mikebledsoe

Ah, okay.

01:21:37.32

Max Shank

Knitting prepping for a Spartan race If you draw boundaries you can do it all if you don't draw boundaries you will do ah exactly the most predictable thing with the least amount of effort all the time the natural way.

01:21:51.95

mikebledsoe

Well said I have nothing to add. Um go to Lake Tahoe and um I want to mention that the weekend before lake tahoe spartan race I have the strong coach summit.

01:21:55.38

Max Shank

Um, also go to Lake Tahoe oh

01:22:09.70

mikebledsoe

It is a allinclusive retreat happening here in Austin Texas I rented out a summer camp round 2 I'm doing 2 a year I'm doing a spring and fall. So again, it's ah it's gonna be 3 nights two days of all inclusive retreat and.

01:22:10.91

Max Shank

Um, oh round 2 yeah baby hell yeah.

01:22:28.24

mikebledsoe

Um'm bringing in killer speakers people who have been in the coaching game are going to help people become better coaches learn how to grow their businesses all that stuff and we're gonna have a great time doing it. So I don't have the. Sales page up for that yet but be on the lookout folks market on your calendars September sixteen through None anything you want to mention there max where can people find you max shink dot com there you go.

01:22:58.78

Max Shank

http://maxshank.com @maxshank. Thanks Mikey! Thanks guys! Love you guys. Bye.

01:23:04.65

mikebledsoe

Love you I.

Jul 14, 2022

A self-confessed “recovering shitty father” who knows the world will begin healing when we begin healing fathers, this week’s guest is an expert at helping men successfully perform much needed “inner work”

 

From the healthy regulation + expression of anger and authentic relationship creation, to breaking the chain of generational trauma - this episode has it all

Jul 7, 2022

There is no “secret” to happiness… but there is a science to it

And no one knows that better than this week’s guest, Dr. Gillian Mandich has devoted and committed her life to finding it so people can live their happiest life

Tune in to this week’s episode. You’ll love it

Jul 4, 2022

00:00.00

mikebledsoe

Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're going to be talking about freedom because you know what it is the fourth of July and we are americans and so of course not only are we totally into the conversation today but we're into it. All the time max and I are both lovers of freedom and in our own ways which is kind of like how freedom works you get to do it your way. So thanks for joining me Dave Max so you are begin this topic with you since I think you and I are both. We've spent a lot of time focusing on this topic.

00:41.30

Max Shank

Well thanks for having me once again, it is certainly my favorite topic. It's also what I would like to impart or share with people. Basically when I think about what I would like to share with folks I would like to help them become more free because I don't.

00:54.71

mikebledsoe

Hang on. Yeah.

01:00.59

Max Shank

I don't I don't I don't want to be your Mama I don't want to be responsible for you and that's the beauty of freedom is there's you are responsible for yourself and this other person is responsible for themself and there's interdependence that comes through agreements.

01:03.23

mikebledsoe

I am.

01:19.29

Max Shank

Volitional choices and I think that's amazing. That's what allowed us to get everything going. That's what allowed us to do so well basically hands writing and cooperation. Otherwise we would still just be you know lion food pretty much.

01:30.17

mikebledsoe

I.

01:37.50

Max Shank

You know I'm saying Ah so I I think I would like everyone listening to this to become more free and I think a good way to understand it would be the different types of freedom and then also what's the opposite of freedom and who are the key players and how this all worked.

01:37.97

mikebledsoe

Definitely.

01:56.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um.

01:57.16

Max Shank

So if you don't mind I'd I'd love to kick things off.

02:00.43

mikebledsoe

Kick things off when you got more to say right now is that what you're saying oh well None I want to mention if you want access to the pre-show you have to go to go over to the bloodso show dot com we'll have a link over there to.

02:03.16

Max Shank

Yeah I mean ah yeah I Just I don't want to drone on and on too much. But I think about it like free freedom is a new go for it.

02:20.10

mikebledsoe

Sign up. Ah, we're taking it's a donation based thing I hate word donation. It's value for value pay what you want if you find what be what you want look pay what you want to be in there. Whatever you however, much value you find from this show just you know.

02:24.56

Max Shank

Um, pay what you want I like that phrase. That's that's a better 1 pay what you want.

02:37.52

Max Shank

Well, they can't pay that much. This show is invaluable so pay the intersection of what you value the show and what you can afford.

02:39.37

mikebledsoe

Make it make you know pay as much as you possibly can is.

02:50.61

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, so that keeps us ah, trucking along. And yeah, if you go up there if if you're listening on the day that we post this that link is not going to quite be up yet. But if you're listening in a few days from now I should have that up in the next week so

02:57.20

Max Shank

It will have.

03:08.77

mikebledsoe

We're Goingnna give some exclusive content there posting some short videos of our pre-show which sometimes I think what's happening in the preshow is more valuable than what's happening here. There's a little more put together. But you miss all the ramblings. That ah happened and in fact, if you go listen to today's pre-show you get to hear max's poem that he wrote this morning. Yeah yeah, so he shared a poem to kick that off. So I just want to mention that first. Ah so I appreciate everyone who's I've had.

03:30.89

Max Shank

Oh that's right.

03:44.95

mikebledsoe

I've had ah people already reach out in the Dms asking me how the hell do I donate someone asked for venmo accounts I was like hold on I was like hold off we're gonna set something up I want to do this proper from the very beginning. So um, they do like us.

03:47.58

Max Shank

Um, oh Wow cool.

03:57.65

Max Shank

They like us. They really like us. Thanks everybody. That's so nice I feel validation that I I used to only feel from the affection of a woman I'm sure no other guys out there ah tried to get all their validation from the affection of women right? That's a mistake.

04:02.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

04:14.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah I've never done that I've never done that. Yeah yeah.

04:17.39

Max Shank

I mean I think that's only a mistake I've made I don't think anybody else talk about a type of slavery right? you you are your sense of self is ah enslaved by the whims and affection of women that's brutal.

04:31.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, which I mean women are pretty much the whole reason we do anything at the end of the day. So yeah, and you know what if I'm a slave to that then fuck it I'm I'm down.

04:37.70

Max Shank

Yo Absolutely for sex and food.

04:46.22

Max Shank

Um, yeah, they're they, they they look and feel nice. Don't they totally worth. Ah, ah.

04:50.78

mikebledsoe

Totally worth it. Totally worth it. Well um, we we had a little conversation during the pre-show that really lights me up which is ah max brought up the word. No. Which I think is at the center of the freedom conversation and there is the internal experience of saying no and that is ah being willing to disappoint others or not meet the expectations of others when someone asks you to do something or be somewhere.

05:25.62

Max Shank

The.

05:27.57

mikebledsoe

You say? No I don't want to um and then there's um, and then there's the the lack of violence when you tell somebody? No,. There's the the external experience of freedom which is. The ability to say no and people actually honor that. Yeah.

05:48.43

Max Shank

Well, it's drawing a line in the sand right? I'm I'm pretty sure the origin of drawing a line in the sand was basically if you cross this I will fuck you up and that's that's really if we have ah differences. That's how we resolve them. We can do it like you and I are doing right now we can talk it out say no and if that knows not respected The only thing left is physical violence which force is the language of cells and the language of life and ah. Even inorganic stuff like rocks I mean force is really what what moves things along which sounds like a funny phrase. But if you draw solid boundaries. You also won't become resentful. That's a big part of it and the biggest part I think. And it's a really hard concept to understand and I bring it up all the time which is opportunity cost if you neglect to say no when it matters then you will prevent yourself from saying yes to things so the cost of not drawing boundaries. Is that you don't get to use that energy for the things that you really want to say yes to so freedom and focus are both related to the word. No and this is true with your health. It's true with your finances. It's true with friendships. It's. Really really important. Um, so that's a big part of it I would also like to today just thank everybody involved for the freedom experiment that you and I are now enjoying in America I think a lot of us. Ah, it's very easy to forget that this is a pretty new concept in terms of how nations are organized. This is a big big group of people united around the concept of freedom. Probably the biggest None ever actually and. Certainly deteriorated a little bit but before that the only type of freedom there was was probably like nomad nomadic tribes and stuff like that. But you're still going to have some sort of a hierarchy. So this idea that everyone is free to do what they like. The pursuit of happiness is a type of magic really and that code and all those people involved set in motion a series of events that allowed for the greatest possible comparative advantage and specialization.

08:37.41

Max Shank

If You are super ambitious about baking muffins and that is all that you want to do you can do that and no one can tell you to do anything otherwise and the cumulative effect of everybody being free to choose out of love what they most want to do. Led to the highest advancement Possible. You're always going to get a much higher passion and performance if the reason or the mission is derived from a place of of love right? so.

09:09.79

mikebledsoe

Yeah, wells gone.

09:13.44

Max Shank

It it wasn't just the people who thank you? It wasn't just the people who wrote the declaration of independence it was a lot of people before that also a lot of it was actually just because of the book common sense by Thomas Paine ah from what I've read and understand. A lot of the guys who signed the declaration of independence just earlier that year were basically thinking. Yeah, we should get back with England we should. We should get back with them and then common sense came out and it's it's worth a read. It's still good. It was the most widely read book ever at the time it it sold more copies than the literacy rate it was outrageous how popular this book was and so it just goes to show the power of an idea.

09:57.40

mikebledsoe

Oh.

10:05.58

Max Shank

Ah, so I I thank Thomas Paine I think the people who who risked a lot I mean there was a lot of bloodshed There was a lot of risks being taken and it's like freedom is basically never given right. It's only taken. And so I I guess I really because I don't have a frame I've ever been to war I've done none of fighting like in a ring with the rare scuffle outside in the world but man I have a really deep appreciation for. All of the people involved and it's still right now there are a lot of people involved with preserving this idea that we are free to do as we please and everyone else is free to do as they please because that's that's not how it went right? right? before this experiment. That's not how it went and I think.

10:56.43

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

11:02.51

Max Shank

A lot of what happened there was a catalyst for the industry and technology that give us different types of freedom I mean you are free from doing your laundry by hand if you have a.

11:21.48

mikebledsoe

But well tech What ah tech comes um I mean I've seen instances where the tech is what preceded the freedom. So for one we can agree on that.

11:21.48

Max Shank

A washing machine and a dryer. It's incredible. So all that tech was because of the freedom I believe.

11:34.39

Max Shank

Freedom Freedom is a technology. Also I think we can agree.

11:40.81

mikebledsoe

Yeah but ah so there's 2 things that really led to ah the the declaration of independence and following that the constitution and ah, what the 2 things that I see that led to that one was the enlightenment period. And that's where guys like John Locke and some other philosophers really laid the groundwork. Um for there was a lot of things happening in Europe and there was these ideas this idea of equal rights was emerging ah in Europe. And it was causing a lot of friction and that's None reason a lot of people came to America was like you know what? I don't want to deal with all this stuff in Europe let's get out of here. Yeah, it's three or four weeks on a boat we might die but fuck it. Let's go and so ah, very bold but the.

12:32.97

Max Shank

Bold very bold.

12:37.88

mikebledsoe

There were these ideas from the enlightenment period that that took hold and the idea of equal rights is that no one person is more has more rights than somebody else which in the end means that I have no right to tell you how to live your life as long as you're not impeding on my.

12:47.32

Max Shank

Oh.

12:57.50

Max Shank

Right.

12:57.22

mikebledsoe

Right? to do what I want so the idea of negative rights comes into play which never exists before. So if you go to Europe now the it the way the their minds work and a lot of americans it works like this too because the the european mindset is you know. I think you and I as long as we've been alive. It seems like a lot of americans think that europe has it more figured out than we do which is kind of weird. Um, yeah, and so.

13:23.16

Max Shank

The grass is greener on the other side. Um, but they don't consider the fact that you pay like a 20% value added tax on like basically everything you know so we have like fractional servitude with these taxations and it's just different place to place right.

13:31.92

mikebledsoe

Everything every step of the Way. Ah. Yeah, so the um, ah so the idea of negative rights comes into play and that is ah everybody had the the negative right is I don't have the right to do anything to cause you to do you know.

13:42.27

Max Shank

Yeah.

13:57.99

mikebledsoe

To stop doing anything you want to do as long as we're not harming each other is basically at the end of the day. That's how negative rights work and this was not a concept that existed prior to about None it was new up into that point everyone believed that the king.

13:59.72

Max Shank

And a.

14:17.80

mikebledsoe

Or the pope or somebody had been granted this authority from god and this is why Ah, this is why so many almost every country has this official religion that's affiliated with and America was the first one that came along. It was like you know what we're not going to do this whole religious thing. Because we're not going to try to tie up the idea of authority with the government and so um and so this whole thing of negative rights comes along and there was if you read the federalist papers and this is a thing that most americans I think really miss out on is they don't. Get the context of the constitution. They don't have the context for the declaration of independence both are are very important I took constitutional law 1 year and the the none month we spent studying the declaration of independence and I was like what is like they told us at the very beginning.

15:11.48

Max Shank

The.

15:16.62

mikebledsoe

We're stuck in declaration of independence first because this actually laid the groundwork for the constitution. So first a lot. Yeah, a lot of people are only looking at the constitution with 0 context. So then so you have the context of the declaration of independence so you need to have that context first.

15:22.91

Max Shank

It's like the sperm and the egg.

15:35.58

mikebledsoe

Most people don't have that and which you know today is the day that you know the the declaration of independence was was made a thing and then um, which was primarily written by Thomas Jefferson I believe and i.

15:42.17

Max Shank

Right. As I understand it. Yeah. We don't know for sure of of course. Well you said something big too which is content without context I Think that's one of the biggest traps that people can fall into like it's It's fine to.

15:53.88

mikebledsoe

No, there were no cameras. It's not an Instagram it's not on Facebook who knows.

16:10.67

Max Shank

Believe you whatever you want to believe but I'm pretty shocked Still you'd think I'd be desensitized to it by now by the by the strength of opinions held based on Absolutely no context whatsoever. It's it's just ah, it's basically just ah, a bird sound.

16:23.36

mikebledsoe

Right.

16:29.15

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

16:30.60

Max Shank

That is repeated like they hear this combination of sounds and then that comes back out again and it's impossible to take into account all of the variables. But ah, it really is if you want to understand something.. It's so important to have context for. What that is and when that might actually be correct.

16:49.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so so the context of something like the constitution is really um, a big topic right now because the supreme court whose primary job is to find out if a law is constitutional or not. That's that's about it.

17:05.89

Max Shank

Right.

17:09.18

mikebledsoe

They don't create laws. They just they make rulings on whether this law is something that could be upheld or not so.

17:15.39

Max Shank

And let's get clear real quick. What's the point of having a state and laws in the None place. It's just to protect property rights that's it. It's that part hasn't changed that is that's the core purpose.

17:29.84

mikebledsoe

That was but but the.

17:34.56

Max Shank

Same with pirates and gangs. It's like basically the guys are like hey we'll offer you protection in exchange for a little bit of your stuff. So It's really like no different than that and when you were talking About. Um. The interplay of negative rights. It. It made me think like okay, well yeah, that's that's the rule is that according to the law. You can't infringe on somebody else's property which is their self and their stuff.

18:09.51

mikebledsoe

Include your body. Yeah.

18:12.94

Max Shank

Yeah yourself and your stuff and but here's the thing like natural law is anyone can do anything. They want any time. So this whole idea of law is really just about consequences if they catch you and that sounds like a little funny but but that's really that's really all it is. If if they catch you. There are consequences if they don't There are basically no consequences So natural law is anyone or or everyone always does what they want and they can they can kill you they can punch you they can say mean things to you. They can steal your stuff. Doesn't matter the whole reason we would put faith in a higher power is if we believed that they would improve our property rights and decrease friction and decrease assault on our persons and so you have to look at the cost Benefit. Of What you're giving up versus what you're getting and I think it's really, um, certainly has split the crowd because a lot of people would agree that for what we ah give or for what we have taken. The ah return on that investment is very bad and not transparent either.

19:29.55

mikebledsoe

Yeah, very bad and and that was actually and that was that was definitely not transparent and that was one of the reasons that you know the the revolutionary war was fought was he's not doing shit for us. He just and just taxing us.

19:41.72

Max Shank

Why should we pay the King he's not doing shit for us over here. He's an ocean away fuck that guy. Yeah, right totally imagine. Yeah.

19:49.55

mikebledsoe

No protection, not providing enough for what he's taking and so that was one of the things that that motivated them. Um, but so I like to bring up the idea of negative rights because there's no such thing as rights outside of negative rights. There's. Anything. That's not a negative right? is what I would call a wrong and so self logic man I'm I'm sorry so I'm really twisting you up here. The thing is is when I talk to people about this sometimes they do.

20:12.65

Max Shank

This is tough logic to follow. Honestly, you got to write it down.

20:21.61

Max Shank

Um, the opposite of a negative right is a wrong.

20:30.83

mikebledsoe

That's right.

20:31.36

Max Shank

I'm pretty I'm pretty sure a negative right is a wrong. But anyway that mathematically.

20:35.16

mikebledsoe

No Ah negative. Well the the the reason well negative rights are rights and you have to the reason we have to use the language negative rights when we used to only have to use the word rights is because a lot of politicians have twisted up what rights mean. So people are confused that yeah that they've confused privileges with rights and you have the right to a really easy one to break down is medical Care. You have ah the right to medical care. It's like that's actually not.

20:53.73

Max Shank

Oh privileges.

21:12.40

mikebledsoe

True now because you have to take it from somebody else. So if if some authority figure comes along and says you have the right to medical care and then there's you walk into the doctor and the doctor says look I really.

21:12.73

Max Shank

I see now because you have to take it from somebody. Yeah.

21:31.76

mikebledsoe

I Can't afford to serve you right now for whatever reason the doctor doesn't want to do it and then an authority figure comes and says no doctor. This person has medical rights. You have to perform whatever it is on them that doctor that doctor has now become a slave. He's has to.

21:43.78

Max Shank

Right? Which is coercion word.

21:51.90

mikebledsoe

He has to conduct labor against his will and when I bring this up a lot of times people get really upset with me when I bring up that example because they're like but it would be wrong for the doctor to turn him down like look from an ethical standpoint when a doctor makes his his or her. Ah. Statement of what the hippocratic oath or whatever it is and they make the statement that they're going to. You know, help people who are in need and not turn anyone away. That's that's an ethical thing.

22:18.24

Max Shank

Right? That's worth going to look at by the way the hippocratic oath you can look it up is really cool. It's like a really awesome little bit of Linguistic magic. So.

22:29.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, So so what? I'm what I'm getting at is like this whole this whole that you have rights to somebody else's labor cause at the end of the and and the medical thing is really touchy because people people do feel like everyone should have access to this like emotionally, it's like. Oh yeah, everyone should have access to this but the thing is is not everyone has access to this.

22:52.19

Max Shank

It's just the image. It's just the image of it that sways people with rhetoric right? it like hospital rooms are scary death is scary. We don't want to face it so we have a scary enough image and then people are like you know what we should ah like steal from the neighbor.

23:02.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

23:09.48

mikebledsoe

Right.

23:10.90

Max Shank

For the greater good right? And here's how you cut straight to the core of any issue like this and you know I'm gonna let the I'm gonna let it fly today because fuck it here's the deal every day in the media. There's some new bullshit that is trying to ensnare you.

23:18.57

mikebledsoe

Ah, perfect.

23:28.64

Max Shank

And enslave your attention and that's already a fucking bad bad thing right? here's the deal though if you want to cut straight to the heart of any issue you ask None question who decides that's it doesn't every everything else take it off the table. Who decides and then you'll figure out what the deal is going on. You just ask who decides and then eventually you go oh so that other guy decides for me. Yeah, no thanks and me saying no, that's that's freedom. But if you want to cut to the heart of. The important issues. What's really important. Ah I don't know if ah if it's important like ah there are so many things that are made to believe to be important. It's make-believe we make believe that these things are important. But the None thing that is important is who decides that's all cut through the bullshit. That's what freedom is is who decides if I can say yes if I can say no, that's freedom if I cannot It's some form of slavery fractional or otherwise simple as that.

24:38.10

mikebledsoe

Yeah, totally agree I mean I think we're what ah probably around I'm like a 33% slave I think you're probably closer like a 48% slave because you're in California.

24:51.48

Max Shank

Fucking rubbing it in look at him do that to me Jesus Christ wow good god I'll tell you what though I'll tell you I'll tell you.

24:56.30

mikebledsoe

Um, just come to Texas already. Um, um, um, not only am my older but I'm less of a slave than you. Um.

25:07.95

Max Shank

Oh you're way more of a timela than I am folks for those listening and don't know I have way more ah agency and autonomy over my schedule than Mike here does. But you know you're going to talk about California. Let's talk about it. Imagine.

25:12.83

mikebledsoe

If.

25:26.80

Max Shank

Being one of those guys who owns a business in California they shut you down and then they don't protect your shop while it gets looted what the fuck are you doing the whole purpose that you're there is like whoa so they they steal none your shit. They don't come to your aid when you need it and they stop you from doing business. It's like the antithesis of freedom. So oh my god look we could talk about this all day but let's let's get back to something practical.

25:55.21

mikebledsoe

Um, a.

25:56.47

Max Shank

Otherwise I'm just gonna sound like an angry old man I'm only 34 fucking years old for Christ's sakes

26:02.35

mikebledsoe

Ah, all right? So ah, we'll get back to some ah something' a little more philosophical that'll help calm me down. So Ah anyways I bring up the the medical freedom because there's a lot of thing or medical rights Because. You got to watch out I want I want people to be aware so when they do come across these conversations when if they do get exposed to something a politician says and they say you have the right to this think about do they have to take something from somebody else to give it to you and if that is the case then it's not a right.

26:18.49

Max Shank

And.

26:37.69

mikebledsoe

Because you're you were in the end enslaving the other person. So yeah, another one that's popular in California is and I've had this experience because my my ah my fiancee Ashley she.

26:40.44

Max Shank

Yeah, you're just getting the loot from their fucking plunder.

26:56.10

mikebledsoe

Sold She had tenants in a building and she sold the building and she inherited the building from her grandmother and so she inherits like this commercial building. It's It's like mixed use commercial and residential and these she's like you know. Well if the tenants she's having to like she's learning about all this stuff in real time and going. Okay, the tenants don't make rent because sometimes they're late. She's like it's like can I kick them out because she's also trying to sell the building and if you have tenants not paying Rent. You're trying to sell a building then it's a fucking problem right? so.

27:26.81

Max Shank

Totally yeah.

27:31.92

mikebledsoe

She goes and talks to the lawyer to find out if she can kick the tenants out and they have to be so many months behind on rent then not only do you not get ah ah, get your money for what you own because that's her property she has to pay the tenants to leave.

27:49.62

Max Shank

Oh yeah, oh yeah, right right.

27:51.31

mikebledsoe

She has to pay them. It's like the opposite of ah property rights. it's it's crazy so um there's just another I wanted to bring up a None law. We'll we'll call it a statutory law that means it's ah it's an opinion of a group people not actual law that have been put in place.

28:06.72

Max Shank

Well, there are so many things like that right? and it's all for the illusion. It's all for the illusion of the greater good. This is the only way you can understand how these things happen you have to imagine 3 neighbors and they all get to vote.

28:10.64

mikebledsoe

That Ah, there's so many.

28:25.90

Max Shank

And if None neighbors vote to Rob the none then majority rules and that's basically the problem is if enough people you know None people vote to Rob the none that's majority rule. It's also called mob rule. In ah in a different term but it's the same thing so you can yeah but that's what I'm that's exactly what I'm saying a democracy is not a good thing and people don't understand that because if you have the majority vote to Rob the minority I don't think that's like a constructive solution and it builds resentment in the.

28:46.80

mikebledsoe

It's also called Democracy It's a pure democracy. Yeah.

29:03.84

Max Shank

The group it doesn't allow I mean they're look. We could go off on that tangent for too long, but.

29:06.46

mikebledsoe

Well well here's the thing is I think it's worth mentioning I'm glad you brought up democracy because the United States is not a democracy. It's a republic and the reason that it was not a democracy is because the founding fathers fathers were smart enough. The first republic I want to say was Greece.

29:13.54

Max Shank

Republic.

29:26.29

mikebledsoe

Um, and took a lot of the concepts from Greece in order to create what we have a lot of the same stuff but the idea is you got a lot of people who want to get rid of something ah like the electoral college They think the electoral college is robbing people of their votes and this and that.

29:29.22

Max Shank

Um, lot of the same stuff lot of the same stuff big time.

29:43.31

Max Shank

And those people live on the coasts and want to make decisions for everybody else I get it like of of course like you know you don't hate the player don't hate the player don't hate the game either. That's just like the the thing we're in like we could have just as easily been born in a feudal system.

29:45.35

mikebledsoe

But yeah, yeah, if you're part of the majority.

30:00.43

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

30:01.33

Max Shank

Of some kind where we had to like pay to a lord and he could fuck our wife on wedding night and all kinds of shit like that. So like look you got to you got to compare Apple's apples everything's relative but ah things are overall like awesome, but it's largely due to technology.

30:10.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah, thank you.

30:20.20

Max Shank

And our ability to trade easily and in fact, so you could say ah trade and technology are kind of the the work of the private sector and it's kind of like um, the public sector tries to fuck everything up. Maybe with good intentions by the way I don't know like that Handlin's razor idea of don't attribute to malice what you could attribute to ah incompetence sometimes yes sometimes no probably more people are stupid than evil and no one thinks they're the evil one. They always think the ends justify the means. Um, that's why that's why I'm not surprised when stuff like this happens because if you get a very powerful ambitious person. They can spin a story in their own mind and if they believe that they can improve. The life of 90% by murdering 10 probably they would do that and I and I could understand that it doesn't make it right? but I can totally understand and that's why it's never a good long-term choice to consolidate power into one area. Because you'll get more speed faster decision making so if you have ah an authoritarian or a dictatorship or some sort of ah collectivism where it's like None or None people in charge. You have a single point of failure which is a problem. So if you have an insane guy can like kill. Ah, 0 people with a famine just by accident right? Just by being a fucking retard. Ah like that's killed way more people than religion is just people who think they're smart getting in charge and thinking that they can make all the decisions that. We should all be individually making on our own that's the that's the value that's one of the major values of freedom is that it's like ah a shock absorber that can work in real time you know, supply and demand cost and benefit are made on an individual basis which is relative to. The individual values and it can adjust things much more quickly. You know if the if the Ceo of Target came out tomorrow and said I don't want any like jews blacks or anyone shopping at Target everyone be like holy god damn we don't like that and we would all go to Walmart. Out of our own free choice probably and and that's why it comes back to who decides. So if it's None guy at the top you can get things done a lot faster. You can boom declare war one None word kill that fucker and there's no.

32:48.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

33:05.52

Max Shank

There's no ah diversification of that decision making so you can get things done way faster hey ah clone those people over there and they're like yes, ah yes, dictator man I will I will clone those people over there hey kill those people and and you will so you can get things done way faster.

33:06.54

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um.

33:24.48

Max Shank

Which can be an advantage in the short term. But ah, you know now you're at the mercy of 1 guy and that's pretty scary stuff. So diversification is a big part of freedom.

33:30.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah I don't get back to yeah I agree and I mean that's one of the I say the byproducts of freedom that that actually is in service of the whole over time. Um, so I me go back to.

33:46.91

Max Shank

It's also profitable transactions. So if every transaction is done Volitiony then there's always ah, an energetic surplus like I trade you voluntary choice. Yeah volition means voluntary choice. But.

33:52.83

mikebledsoe

He say he's volition. He means voluntary so be using such big words. Yeah, ah so ah.

34:04.35

Max Shank

Dude, let me use my word a day calendar. Okay I bought the thing.

34:07.33

mikebledsoe

So They ah it it being a Republic I mentioned the electoral college but congress the senate the Supreme court. All these things are set up to have checks and balances and everything is based off of the.. Basically the declaration of Independence in the constitution are these these base ah basis of all the laws that are written and most of them are not constitutional that are floating around these days but the whole point was to ah they realized that the average person. Needed to feel like they were involved in some way but they they do not. They shouldn't have like ah I guess an equal voice in how things should ah like be controlled by others because not everyone can see. View and there's there's That's why there's representatives and not everything's just yeah, it's a specialization.

35:00.19

Max Shank

Um, it's specialization right? like an Electrician is good with electrical electrical work. A politician is supposed to be good with political work. Of course there are a lot of problems with that. But that's the idea.

35:10.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and so that's why in my opinion up until this point a republic is the greatest form of government that's going to give somebody the greatest amount of freedom now. Ah you know. Is there something better probably with the with the way technology is moving with the decentralization of governance so things like the decentralized autonomous organizations daws. There are going to be things that we're going to be able to do with decentralized governance. And with Ai that is going to actually be able to make decisions that and ai is going to be able to croc information that no one human being can consider and so with the advancement technology. What I believe is we're going to be stepping into. A greater amount of freedom. Um, and there's also dangers that come with that of course. Ah and so going back. So I just want to make that statement about it being a republic not a democracy so on the news when they go oh this is a danger to our democracy which happens all the fucking time. Ah. Like sometimes youre like some I've had people tell me that I'm like well it's good thing. We're not a democracy and they they're like ah we're this one guy this german guy he yeah that this german guy he was like ah he was arguing with me on Facebook about something some guy went to burning man with.

36:30.79

Max Shank

Um, yeah, well there's semantic precision for you right? People don't even know what the word means.

36:45.25

Max Shank

Ah, yeah.

36:47.40

mikebledsoe

I mean this is years ago and he's like he's like something about democracy this and democracy. Yeah I was like well None off, you need to know that you're living in a country that's not a democracy. We're a republic and he's like what's that have to do with anything um like like you know, ah.

37:00.21

Max Shank

Ah.

37:05.75

mikebledsoe

The entire basis of your point is is being built around the idea of democracy That's that that doesn't actually exist here. So um.

37:16.43

Max Shank

Basically the Republic that was set up with Independence was to try to put as much shit in the way as possible from the government doing anything and and that's and that's the correct choice by the way it's.

37:26.17

mikebledsoe

Yeah, if you and the and the constitution was the constitution when you read it was it doesn't grant any rights to anybody it limits the government from impeding upon the rights that every individual has.

37:31.86

Max Shank

It's way more stable.

37:40.40

Max Shank

Exactly and isn't it Yeah isn't it funny too. We even havent I think it's the ninth one that says ah there are also more rights that we didn't write down.

37:46.15

mikebledsoe

And so yeah.

37:58.54

Max Shank

Basically, there's there's one like that. It's like you know, free speech and firearms. And honestly, if you have those 2 eventually it'll rebalance. It'll be a little turbulent but the whole like you know troops in peace time and not ah incriminating yourself and all these things that ah go on up. Ah, to that one where it's like Also we this this list is not Complete. We have even more than we wrote down.

38:23.89

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, hopefully you get the idea and then people didn't but but the thing is yeah um.

38:31.69

Max Shank

It's because they traded freedom for security and there's a quote about that people who trade freedom None security will lose both and deserve neither I think that might have been Jefferson I think it might have been Jefferson but maybe ah.

38:41.00

mikebledsoe

So Benjamin Franklin I think I put money on franklin yeah, but I mean nonetheless. Um, yeah, that that is what's happened so the other thing I want to hit on which what we were talking about the technology leading to freedom or freedom leading to technology I think.

38:48.40

Max Shank

Maybe it was Franklin I don't okay, yeah yeah.

39:06.12

mikebledsoe

I think the desire to be free is what does drive a lot of technology but an example so what created so I'm going to go back to the 2 things that created the situation in 76 when the founding fathers go you know what fuck you? we're doing our own thing. Is they had 2 things they had the enlightenment period so they had the philosophy which was the the development of consciousness to the degree in which they they recognized equal rights amongst every human being That's why it was written was it executed that way. Absolutely not. But guess what? we fast forward to today. It's been corrected. Tremendously. Um I think that if anyone were to argue that it's not as good now as it was two hundred years ago they'd be an idiot um and then well I would say as far as.

39:55.52

Max Shank

A lot of things are better and some things are worse. But I think Net net is better.

40:01.58

mikebledsoe

Say as far as like equal rights like there's not we don't have discrimination. Ah you know discriminatory laws based yeah well you know? yeah you know people of color and women being able to vote and all these types of things.

40:06.17

Max Shank

Oh that's a funny one. It's like the bros before hose amendments. You know that one.

40:18.22

Max Shank

Well isn't it funny though that we gave recently ah freed slave black men the right to vote long before women like I think that's a funny thing and I I feel that too I mean right now there's a lot of tension. Ah between men and women.

40:19.82

mikebledsoe

Um.

40:27.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

40:37.49

Max Shank

Mostly manufactured. But I think there's a lot more commonality between men of different races than a man and a woman of the same race I don't I don't I don't really think ah I don't think that's it's really more about upbringing but Gosh ah being a man or a woman is like a really.

40:45.51

mikebledsoe

I agree.

40:56.77

Max Shank

Different thing but having a different but having a different skin color in and of itself is not really a different thing and the only reason I believe that is because I'm not a racist and I cannot be a racist and think that generally black people Run faster.

40:57.76

mikebledsoe

It's a very different experience.

41:02.47

mikebledsoe

Not in. Um, what.

41:16.84

Max Shank

Asians are better at musical instruments and math and they become doctors more regularly I mean can't we all agree that this shit happens and not be racist at the same time seems so easy to me.

41:26.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, easy to you but not to people who were had their amygdala hijacked by the media. But ah, so so the 2 things the enlightenment period that gave rise to the philosophy and the way of thinking of equal rights.

41:33.10

Max Shank

Oh.

41:45.59

mikebledsoe

And the None thing that made the revolution possible was the decentralization of violence through the invention of the rifle and so hour to the people and so before the rifle came along.

41:53.85

Max Shank

Power to the people.

42:02.64

mikebledsoe

The amount of training and the cost of Weaponry and armor was too high for the average person to have the rifle comes along you require less training to kill somebody right? You don't need that much training to use a rifle fairly effectively like you can become deadly.

42:09.31

Max Shank

Um, ha ha.

42:22.29

mikebledsoe

You know in an afternoon of practice and exactly and so and.

42:24.70

Max Shank

And totally fuck up some guy who's done martial arts for 40 years with a sword that that changed my whole outlook on martial arts training I remember when I had that realization I was like I got to stop this I got to go start learn how to use a gun I'm not going to let some fucking. Hundred and ten pound asshole shoot me dead after training martial arts for 20 years that's ridiculous so it's it's the great equalizer right.

42:43.83

mikebledsoe

No, no, it is a great equalizer I think Smith and Wesson there's a quote from Smith and Wesson from the gun company has said men and women were created equal and. Smith and Wesson keeps it that way or something like that. Yeah yeah, it's like empowering women to carry a gun. You know like oh you, you don't want to have to rely on men for your safety. Well here's here's ah the great equalizer as you say so yeah, the the rifle would pierce the armor that was.

43:03.47

Max Shank

Oh That's pretty fun. Right.

43:16.54

Max Shank

Down.

43:21.92

mikebledsoe

Previously made to deflect swords and and arrows but a bullet you know, traveling at a thousand feet per second you know it it makes it through and so it really changed how warfare was ah conducted and actually what was that Mel Gibson movie with ah.

43:25.13

Max Shank

Ah.

43:41.73

mikebledsoe

No no the patriot I just saw a clip of it on Instagram and in that movie one of the things that that happened is they ah in a revolutionary war is when guerrilla warfare really started up until that point it was like.

43:41.77

Max Shank

Braveheart no the patriot. Yeah.

44:00.50

mikebledsoe

I've got my army and we're going to just March up to your army because that's what worked when they had like swords and and arrows and all this shit but like warfare actually didn't ah didn't really ah evolve.

44:03.98

Max Shank

Honorable.

44:13.12

Max Shank

In many parts of the world in sophisticated warfare. It was like we're going to March in a line at each other and what's funny is in bravehe heartt another Mel Gibson movie it's also all about freedom like he gets disembowlled and he like yells freedom and.

44:18.95

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

44:26.31

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

44:29.89

Max Shank

They're like doing sneaky shit and coming around the flank and all that stuff. So it's kind of funny how ah those movies really parallel each other under the same banner of free of freedom.

44:37.58

mikebledsoe

Oh for sure for sure. So ah, yeah, just thinking about that and like the scene I saw on Instagram ah, you know I follow ah an Instagram account called zulu fucks. So ah, you know it's a military you know some veterans put that shit together. Some sick fucks and who I enjoy and the ah you know they they have the scene where you know he's killing them with you know, rifles and hatchets and you know that was that was the weapon of his of choice right? He had the the hatchet he could throw and and all that um.

44:58.62

Max Shank

Yeah.

45:10.68

Max Shank

Right? It's like John wick. It's like murder porn right? for dudes John Wick 3 Keanereves fucks people up for 2 hours

45:14.95

mikebledsoe

But yeah, yeah, it is dude I finally watched I watched I've been wanting to watch John Wick for like 10 years and the last time I flew it was on the screen I was like oh fuck I'll watch it now. Um good movie.

45:32.13

Max Shank

It's funny. Yeah, yeah.

45:33.74

mikebledsoe

Actually I really enjoyed it. Ah so ah, so yeah, the the this decentral ah decentralization of violence through the invention of the rifle really is what allowed. Ah the Americans to get together and be able to. Hold the British back and everyone can fight that did not happen back in the day you were either a trained soldier or you weren't and if you weren't a trained soldier. You weren't fighting. Yeah yeah, mostly farmers.

45:53.17

Max Shank

Everyone can fight now I think that's even happening in Ukraine pass out a gun to everybody like.

46:07.57

Max Shank

You're probably a farmer. You know you said something really cool there which was that philosophical change and I often have thought about the fact that slavery is largely due to the definition. In the Dao. Ah 1 of the none passages is that ah naming is the origin of all particular things. So when you say there's this philosophical enlightenment shift. What that means is without that adjustment. People will go on believing the same thing that they have been believing. It's just like momentum. There's ideological momentum just like there's physical momentum. So. It's interesting to look back and see how many people were controlled with. With the threat of violence mostly I think of like ah a plantation in the south right? or or you know even before that just using a whip. You know you got maybe None people ah fully commanding None people and all they have is like whips and these people don't even think ah a. They think I'm I'm a slave and this is normal and this is what slaves do this is like a superior man and this is a slave even the code of hamurabi allegedly the oldest text for law which is basically like if you steal something we'll chop off your hand if you poke a guy's eye out. We'll poke your eye out if you rape his daughter you got to marry her and pay the dad fifty Silver shekels that kind of thing but it would it would refer to people as a superior man or an inferior man or a slave and so there were different classes of people and the reason there were different.

47:45.91

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

47:59.12

Max Shank

Classes of people was because that they believed and accepted those Classifications. So if you accept the classification of that. Ah, and you're and you don't have an. Imbalanced force kind of bringing it back to physics and Momentum. There's no reason that you would stop doing that.

48:19.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah. Um, I just did a quick search for a quote that I saw circulating on on social media which was a quote from Harriet Tubman saying I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.

48:40.91

Max Shank

Oh yeah, that's what I was trying to say but in a worse way I was I was saying it worse.

48:44.65

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but then you know of course if I go to one of the things that popped up I Want to do a search on it to be you know to confirm I was correct and there's ah, a politifact. Um.

48:53.14

Max Shank

A. Oh yeah, very reliable source.

49:00.73

mikebledsoe

That this this is hilarious actually like I never I I rarely ever do this, but it's like I end up on um, http://politifact.com to fact checker right? which is bullshit. Yeah, um.

49:10.18

Max Shank

I Want that job that seems easy I Just get to say right.

49:17.63

mikebledsoe

So. What's what's funny is like um, there's this explanation of how it was ah it was discredited in the none the none time ah like the the way it starts arguing that it was discredited is because um Facebook said it was debunked. And and fake like and then um, yeah, like their their primary sources and opinion from Facebook um, but ah, you know I don't know there. There is some more references and people.

49:39.34

Max Shank

So that's their source is that Facebook said it wasn't real.

49:56.95

mikebledsoe

Think that the comment's ridiculous. But of course if you don't know that you're a slave then of course that's going to sound ridiculous.

50:02.52

Max Shank

Right? The most effective chains are the ones that you don't notice and you can be a slave to different thing I think addiction is kind of like slavery in a lot of cases. Um you become a slave to that behavior or substance or or person.

50:06.23

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

50:21.28

Max Shank

Right? Like a code-dependent relationship like you're just totally totally a slave but you can't get out because you don't know. Ah what that would even look like.

50:29.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well that that quote makes me think about I remember reading um I took ah by the way I took african american english literature in college. There were 2 white people in the class at the beginning at the beginning of the semester.

50:42.79

Max Shank

Seems like a woke flex.

50:49.11

mikebledsoe

And then I was the only white person left at the end of the semester. Ah so to the beginning one was left ah I was really curious I was really yeah I was really really curious. Ah I enjoyed the class I thought it was fun.

50:57.52

Max Shank

Talk about being a minority.

51:08.16

mikebledsoe

I like english lit no matter what like any type of literature. Um I just love it. Ah, but None of the things that I realized in that class because we were reading you know well african american english lit and is that a lot of slaves when they were freed really didn't know what the fuck to do. And the same thing would happen now as if the government took off. You know people are like well what would we do? if there wasn't if nobody was taking care of this this this and this what would we do like we need to have that and and basically what I got from what I had read back then the the general theme that I saw was that.

51:36.60

Max Shank

Totally.

51:46.97

mikebledsoe

A lot of slaves didn't really want to be freed because they didn't know what to do with the freedom like there was a certain level of comfort and safety and knowing that I do this thing I go to work and I work work I work. However, many hours in the field. And there's going to be a meal for me and there's gonna be a roof over my head and yeah, like some things really Suck. You know if you step out of Line. You might get whipped or whatever it is but what was more scary was the uncertainty of freedom.

52:11.75

Max Shank

Right.

52:19.65

Max Shank

Um, I think that that's the only thing people fear is unknown. Um, like if you knew for sure that you were going to die on a certain day you wouldn't even fear it you had just accept it as reality. So it's the uncertainty.

52:21.63

mikebledsoe

Ends. Mostly.

52:36.99

Max Shank

That's why people are more afraid of a shark in the water than a bear on the land because you can't see it right? um.

52:39.75

mikebledsoe

I agree I've had the experience of both. Well I had the experience with the shark is like when I surf and I'm on top of the water. There's a I'm a little more like oh my God if something popped up I'd freak out but I've been diving with sharks and I was incredibly calm because I could see them and I was present with them and.

52:46.43

Max Shank

Um, yeah for right. In the epic of Gilgamesh. That's the scariest part is he's in a tunnel where you can't see a foot ahead or a foot behind and I think that's the oldest epic novel written down was ah was the epic of Gilgamesh but that was you know he's fighting all these like gods and monsters and shit.

52:58.86

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, encounter with bear recently and that wasn't so bad.

53:09.97

mikebledsoe

Um.

53:18.72

Max Shank

Not afraid. It's just when he's in the pitch black tunnel. He can't see what's ahead or what's behind and that's what the fear is really about I Think if you take what you're talking about um as ah as a leader something of a leader myself and often in the past very a very bad leader.

53:24.70

mikebledsoe

In 1

53:38.71

Max Shank

Ah, a lot of people are are craving direction. They're craving direction they want so they want a director just tell me what to do.

53:44.61

mikebledsoe

Yeah, Ashley and I had this conversation yesterday we were talking about marketing. We were talking about marketing I was like like really we we were. We were driving down the road and analyzing billboards and I was and and um because it's a fun exercise for me, but ah.

53:55.72

Max Shank

Ah, ah, ah, sounds really fun.

54:04.53

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and ah I was like oh they could have said it way better and people would have taken the action they want them to if they would have said it like this and it was simply changing the language ah to tell people exactly what to do instead of telling people what I do like.

54:16.47

Max Shank

Right.

54:21.77

mikebledsoe

If I want you to work with me I don't tell you what I do I Tell you what you do with me and so.

54:22.94

Max Shank

Well and even more you're gonna say here's what you're gonna do here's what it's gonna look like here's how it's gonna feel this is exactly because what you're doing I think of it like.

54:32.24

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, um.

54:40.82

Max Shank

You're taking someone from one shore across a river to another one and that other shore across the river is basically like the the pot of gold at the rainbow. It's everything they want and everything you have and what you're doing is you are creating and manifesting. An image that helps them believe and see how they are going to cross that potentially very turbulent river so it's bringing certainty through imagination and having a direct action that is really clear to take. Like call this number now for your free blank is ah is a way better call to action than what I like to do is blah blah blah blah blah it's like whoa. No people do crave that direction I can absolutely understand. Why being ah freed after a life of servitude would be bad. It would be like ah Batman Batman telling Alfred to fuck off basically right and he's like whoa. No I've been I've been serving the batmans. The Bruce Waynes and all that stuff for years I think a similar example is ah.

55:40.95

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

55:50.40

mikebledsoe

Well I want to I want to leave I go around.

55:52.85

Max Shank

Ah, stay a stay at home mom a stay at home. This is my last example on this thing because like a stay at home mom you're 20 years as part of a functioning family unit and now suddenly you're like I think I'm going to reenter the workforce and that was a lifetime ago so that that uncertainty is.

56:05.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah, my mom did that sheet I think she didn't work for 1819 years and then went back in and I think it was a little overwhelming for her at the beginning. But yeah, the yeah yeah.

56:11.51

Max Shank

Very pf.

56:17.63

Max Shank

What do I What do I Do tell someone tell me what to do and we're trained that way. You know we're crate trained in school obedience school I mean to do what other people tell us to do So it's no surprise that most people fall in line.

56:35.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and I I bring all this up because um, you know some people are going to hate me for saying it. But like people we weren't joking at the beginning of the show. We were kind of joking we were weren't joking that we're fractional slaves in that if you don't.

56:36.34

Max Shank

With that ideology.

56:52.70

Max Shank

Yeah.

56:54.82

mikebledsoe

If We don't if we don't voluntarily participate with paying taxes and doing some other things and we're going to get beat down with a stick and stuck in a cage. Ah so like so like I think a lot of times. It's hard. For people to hear a statement from a white guy about ah such things. Yeah.

57:17.77

Max Shank

Only for racists only for racists if you discount the opinion of a person based on the lack or presence of melanin their skin. You're fucking racist just because someone's black doesn't mean we should think what they have to say matters and just because a guy is white. Doesn't mean that what he says doesn't matter the whole the whole idea of anti-racism is just racism by a different name that that is like a huge ah that's a type of ideological enslavement is thinking that that. Bullshit matters and those are burdens those are chains that you got to wear and like I was saying at the very beginning the news cycle is making you care about so many things that are outside your control and you're just going to get a greater and greater separation. Between your locus of control which is literally just you and then your radius of awareness of what is going on and they're like hey this important thing is happening a million miles away hey this important thing is happening to this ah gay something black. Whatever guy. And I'm not trying to like demean anybody it's just like those things don't matter. That's a person who should have rights just like another person. The idea that they should be different like adjusted up or adjusted down based on None of their features. That's fucking retarded basically like I don't know ben.

58:47.78

mikebledsoe

Ah I agree I agree because and because at the end of the day is you? You are one of the few that actually believe in equal rights and anyone who who you know that's that's how I've I've started making a lot of my conversations lately when someone makes. A statement about something that's political I go Oh well, do you believe in equal rights and then I go tell me about like you know do do you have like a definition for equal rights and they never do and then I provide them with a definition and then.

59:16.80

Max Shank

And.

59:24.50

mikebledsoe

And then usually we can't get very far after that because the definition of equal rights is is so difficult for them to even have a conversation about that because it because it challenges all the ideas it it challenges their ideology because before. They heard equal rights and they that they don't know what equal rights means and then they build a whole ideology that assumes that it's based on equal rights. But then when you go and visit that that um that that thing at the core that everyone thinks they agree on and then you say well let's define it. And now we're we're taking the foundation of what they believe to be the foundation of their ideology and we just fucking take it out from underneath them. It. It gets a little shaky.

01:00:11.20

Max Shank

Well, it's it's like is the game Fair I mean I used to do that and I thought it was pretty smart. It I thought it was like fun and kind of sporting to like ah slowly ah help people realize that everything they believe is fucking stupid and doesn't have any basis in reality. But it's not even fun anymore because it's so Common. It's not even difficult. But um, basically it does come I mean who who decides who decides? That's all who decides all of the other stuff So That's why I say it's It's not about so people conflate.

01:00:37.63

mikebledsoe

It's so easy to be. You know these days. All you got to believe in equal rights and be weirdo.

01:00:49.91

Max Shank

Or as you say there's a collapse distinction between equal opportunity and equal outcome and that's the big mistake because if you're looking to create an equal outcome then by definition the game can't be fair because you're going to be adjusting the rules based on the players.

01:01:05.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, you can't have equal. You can't you can't have equal opportunity and equal outcome. They can't exist at the same time.

01:01:08.77

Max Shank

And that it takes us right back to who decides who if I'm a fucking referee in a boxing match and anytime one of the guys gets punched I stop the fight to give him a little rest. That's not a fair game. But I can make the outcome equal right? So basically comes back to who decides Well now the referee gets to decide the fight who would fucking watch that game. It's It's ridiculous and I I think what helps a lot is just to imagine a smaller.

01:01:28.60

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:01:47.25

Max Shank

Group of people you know who is the None doing the stealing who is the None being stolen from who's the None profiting from that stealing you know you can easily sort these things out but trying to change someone's mind I think that's mostly an energetic loss unless you're really going to. Dedicate yourself to it. The best thing you can do is to free yourself from this idea that talking about that shit even matters I mean Mike and myself were hoping to illuminate this topic so you and us can all be unburdened. So that we can go do. What's really valuable and value as individual. Ah you know, bottled water at Coachella extremely valuable bottled water at Lake Tahoe Not very valuable. But if you focus on value. And values within yourself. That's good and you're going to get a much better return on your energy. But if you like spend time having these like arguments. It. It just takes away that that joy I mean if you find it fun like for sport. Ah you know, go nuts. But you're not going to.

01:02:55.21

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:03:03.18

Max Shank

Make a really significant ah change in people's minds unless you're like okay I'm going to like there are people out there like Russell Brand for example he is like basically making a career out of illuminating what's going on in a pretty humorous way. So like. That's why I'm not going to try to do something like that is like he's already handling that plus is not really a good way for me to generate the most value because after freedom and love the best thing is to be generous really like. If you if you already are kind of wealthy. You already know this if you're not very wealthy yet you might understand this but I guarantee for those of you who are like on your way up to being like really wealthy. You're going to buy yourself a bunch of fucking toys. This is what happened to me at least. You're going to go god damn that is not nearly as fun as taking my friends out to lunch and you'll realize that the the generosity is what fuels you to do more things. So love freedom and then sharing that generosity is where it's at. But. If you get tripped up by all this bullshit about like genitals and colors and sexual orientation like is fucking. Tiresome freedom is about who decides and if it's you it's freedom if it's not then it's some slavery and it can be fractional. And I'm not I don't it's not that I don't appreciate what I have I am super appreciative what I have I am grateful every day and like let's not kid ourselves. There are a lot of things that happen that are just fucking stupid and it's okay to to recognize that.

01:04:51.17

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah I think at the core that is just um or what for me is ah, not having any expectation around say changing somebody's mind. It's like I'll engage in the conversation. But I'm not.

01:05:05.95

Max Shank

Ooh Yeah, now you're talking.

01:05:08.97

mikebledsoe

If I have the expectation there there should They should be thinking like me by the end I'm going to suffer. It's gonna I'm gonna be miserable. It's not going to be fun and the only way I can have fun in these types of conversations is to realize that I'm not going to change their mind and that's okay.

01:05:13.83

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:05:27.70

mikebledsoe

In the best case scenario the way I see it is the best case scenario is I plant a seed that they may wake up in a week and they go something happens and they go shit that thing Mike said that actually kind of makes sense. But.

01:05:40.42

Max Shank

But your attitude your attitude in. That example is exactly freedom. You're not saying I need to change this person's mind you're saying I'm gonna say what I think is true. They are free.

01:05:48.61

mikebledsoe

Right.

01:05:55.80

Max Shank

But I mean that's what freedom of religion really is like you're free to think of whatever you want to think I mean there are a lot of different religions to choose from. So you're free to do that I think um, just respecting people's boundaries is so awesome If it feels good too like you won't feel. It's an extra burden.

01:06:04.19

mikebledsoe

I yeah.

01:06:13.34

Max Shank

To be the enslaver. Also that's what I was saying in the very beginning like I don't want to be your fucking Mama I want to have a conversation with my buddy Mike here hopefully bring into reality some of these nuggets that I work on throughout the week and there are times where a sentence. Or even a couple words are a catalyst for a big change and that's what I think is really cool like what you're talking about.

01:06:38.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, so yeah, never having the expectation making it fun remaining curious I think I think the ah the second part is the reason I get in the conversations is because I'm genuinely curious how they're how they've come to the conclusion.

01:06:53.78

Max Shank

Oh.

01:06:58.64

mikebledsoe

They've come to and 1 of the things I noticed is when I start getting really curious about how they got there. They usually ruffles some feathers so it's more like yeah I'm like um, like yeah because they don't know how because they actually don't know how they got there most of the time sometimes they do that conversation gets really enlightening.

01:07:06.10

Max Shank

Oh yeah, it's not comfortable.

01:07:17.75

mikebledsoe

But most people most people have no idea how they got to where they are Bait thought they actually haven't thought it through and so to have the expectation they're going to now think it through with you. That's that's a little much but also just like the curiosity I'm like how do I. For me I go How can I be the best communicator possible I have to know where they're coming from I can't have an effective conversation until I actually understand how they think about this or how they and how they feel about this and if I can really get in there and understand it.

01:07:39.42

Max Shank

The.

01:07:48.91

Max Shank

A.

01:07:55.97

mikebledsoe

Now I might have a chance. But if you are going with the expectation to change your mind your ability to be curious is diminished because you have an expectation of an outcome. So it's yeah yeah.

01:08:07.24

Max Shank

You're trying to ah you're trying to fix the game Basically like you're not really curiously looking for a solution you're trying to force your solution and if you think about where people derive these beliefs from it's easy someone else.

01:08:22.27

mikebledsoe

Totally totally lot easier that way.

01:08:22.84

Max Shank

Gave it to him. That's all someone else gave it to you. It's crazy you you hear the same phrases repeated and if you dissect it down. They have no clue why they're even saying what they're saying logical fallacies. False Equivalency is this false premise invalid thought process like It's no surprise. But I do think curiosity is the best way to approach it and detachment because then you can. That's how you really learn learning is mostly about ah curiosity and if you're really curious about something you'll figure it out. You have Youtube you have the internet. You can you can figure things out and having conversations is a good way to test these ideas out. It's like science is all about the scientists trying to prove each other wrong not about like slapping each other on the back and saying how right they are without any inquiry.

01:09:14.45

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think that's a good point because a lot of these come I think back to one I had when I was in California last month with somebody and we nobody was sober but we were having a conversation and ah. It caused this is ah ah it was a rare occasion of someone who had thought through to a degree to where um I then left the conversation I go how do I better explain this or like like how do I better. Ah. Like these conversations where there's disagreement allows me to I sometimes use the word fortify but I don't think that's as accurate as just create more accuracy in what I'm saying and so it can be received better but also sometimes question like oh is my thinking right. And having someone challenge that is is super beneficial because if you leave me alone in isolation and I just have my thoughts so I like I have a friend who a friend that I have a friend that doesn't go out much and they're extremely judgmental about everything. Not you.

01:10:18.80

Max Shank

Everything makes sense. Everything makes sense then.

01:10:28.40

mikebledsoe

They're extremely but rent like um doesn't Um, they don't go out hardly at all and like they have all these ideas about how people are out in town. Oh this person's like this and this person I'm like I'm like.

01:10:28.64

Max Shank

Don't talk to me about me this way. Dude What do you do this to me for we're on the air homie.

01:10:48.10

mikebledsoe

I'm out in town I'm out there mixing it up like I actually and he says says something like like yeah I don't think that's actually what's motivating them. So like this if you're if you're not in the mix then you're gonna have a hard time note and and if you want if you choose not to be in the mix.

01:10:48.47

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:11:07.18

mikebledsoe

Just choose just be sure not to be judgmental of everyone in there because you don't know what's going on for them.

01:11:10.81

Max Shank

Yo Well I mean that's an easy way to be happy is just don't judge people don't blame don't shame whatever but I think it's not that he is by himself. It's that his. Echo Chamber that he's created with technology because otherwise he's not he's got to get these ideas from somewhere right? So He's just got a really.

01:11:28.66

mikebledsoe

How yeah it is is's definitely so it's It's basically text message shreds and social media and.

01:11:35.35

Max Shank

Right? Which is which is basically like a ah like ah a poisonous feedback loop I would want to say because you are going to be optimized for things that outrage you. So I mean it's True. This is just like ah. The the reality of it. We're wired that way if you see a fucking naked chick on your left and a growling tiger on your right? Unfortunately, even you fucking pervert will look at the growling tiger and try to react to that danger None right.

01:12:09.76

mikebledsoe

Totally and I'm perverted. Yeah and I'm perverted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:12:12.79

Max Shank

So it's the same thing when you create your own What's that you you are perverted in the nicest way possible I don't mean that as an insult folks. Ah, but so you create your own echo chamber the algorithm feeds you more of what you react to? So sadly. You will see more and more of what you dislike and that's not ah if we're going to talk about statistics which is already ah fucking bullshit mostly what that Mark Twain quote there are lies damn lies and statistics exactly that's right.

01:12:43.49

mikebledsoe

Um, there are lives damn lies and then there are statistics.

01:12:52.10

Max Shank

Ah, if if your sample size is just whatever the software shows you to get the most significant reaction you're gonna be just fucking swimming in a pool of the stuff you Hate. It's. Probably like the worst thing one of the worst thing this bad.

01:13:11.85

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and and 2022 we have record breaking rates of depression anxiety all these things.

01:13:21.70

Max Shank

Dude when they first closed things down I made a bet that more people were gonna kill themselves than be killed and you should have seen the gnashing of teeth and the wailing that people through there and it's like look I don't know for sure. But.

01:13:34.30

mikebledsoe

Ah, a.

01:13:39.40

Max Shank

It's usually better to do nothing.. It's usually better to do nothing like the the idea of unintended consequences. That's what I'm saying like no one is smart enough to figure that shit out So when you go like oh who decides the fucking benevolent. Genius He's still going to fuck it up. Because there are too many data points to Consider. So.

01:13:58.97

mikebledsoe

Yeah I saw saw a meme the other day which was ah what we're experiencing right now you know time travel does exist and someone keeps going back to the year Twenty twenty and tweaking things and just making things worse. It's just like. Been a downward. It's been a fucking downward spiral since 2020 and in in society and I do think that it's leading to a ah, an awakening a revolution I don't I don't think it needs to be bloody I hope it's not ah.

01:14:29.41

Max Shank

Awakening. Yeah.

01:14:37.20

mikebledsoe

I Think it's going to be. It's so technologically driven that I think it's I think there's going to be some violent areas will erupt in the world like certain cities in the Us which is kind of. We're already starting to see that. Ah yeah.

01:14:51.44

Max Shank

That had already happened right? We should talk technology next week by the way, let's talk technology next week I I saw this thing ah they had ah um.

01:14:55.31

mikebledsoe

And technology. Yeah.

01:15:05.85

Max Shank

Think it was like 6000 drones flying together. It was the world record for the most. Ah for the largest drone swarm that was being flown around and that kind of stuff when within the last year I would say it.

01:15:13.45

mikebledsoe

Where was this? yeah okay because Bernie Man 2018 they we saw the largest drone show up until that point with a swarm of drones. It was.

01:15:26.48

Max Shank

Um, yeah, wild right? different colors different shapes in 3 d space and these things can move so fast they can move so fast too. Yeah.

01:15:30.82

mikebledsoe

1 or two a m with different lights. There was an orchestra there was an orchestra playing there's an orchestra playing as they're doing it. It's fucking crazy. So 6000 which is more than what I saw mine was probably like a None

01:15:43.32

Max Shank

None plus it might have even been 8 it was that it was this insane thing and it's like the average person has no idea how their refrigerator works and a refrigerator for how useful it is is a very like it's. Very elegant, simple machine a computer a drone electricity these things get so much more and more complex like silicon chips. These different things that we have available to us now is so far beyond what the average person can understand we have like we can. We can blast heat waves for crowd control but they're concerned that maybe it will like melt their retina and melt their eyeballs. It's It's really wild. So I think that's another ah good reason to diversify and divide the power up amongst a larger group of people rather than to just have None person with his finger on the button and that's um, you know. Chain of command is how organizations work and you need someone who's got the final say and it just gets a little bit tricky but.

01:17:02.30

mikebledsoe

It's just I like I mean there's always going to be a hierarchy but can there be smaller groups of people existing inside of hierarchy. That's.

01:17:09.42

Max Shank

I Like the hierarchy of the customer is always right because everything else is really messy. Everything else is really messy like you let people buy what they want to Buy. It's like that saying ah the love of money is the root of all evil or money is the root of all evil I Mean. No, like there are problems like printing money is a real problem I think but but money itself that allows me to trade a candlestick for a loaf of bread without finding a baker who wants a candlestick that is incredible. That's in. Credible How quickly we can deliver value to each other at a profit so there are all these amazing things and you know you don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. This is a mistake I made in the past is I would just be like fuck it burn it Down. It's bad. You know and that's not really the case either most of the um luxury and benefits in our life are directly related to technology because um, by and large. We don't need a lot of the bullshit that our tax dollars go to So. There's a problem there. But overall you got to be really grateful for the time that we're living in and certainly the place. But.

01:18:41.90

mikebledsoe

No better time or place. No better timer place. Yeah, anything else seems ridiculous. Well let's ah, let's wrap this show up next week. We'll get in technology which.

01:18:45.81

Max Shank

That's the right attitude. Yeah, yeah.

01:18:57.62

mikebledsoe

We'll see if we actually follow through with what we plan on doing the next week this time we'll see yep.

01:18:59.51

Max Shank

All right I got I gotta I think we did this time I got I got a wrap for you ready not an actual wrap. We'll save that for the the the member account I'll do a little freestyle and you can you beat box. Okay so Mike is gonna look.

01:19:12.10

mikebledsoe

No you, you've seen me I might might.

01:19:17.21

Max Shank

Mike is going to learn how to beat box before next week and I will do a wrap for our subscribers. So check it out here's what we have as far as freedoms. We have freedom of our our time we have freedom of location. A lot of people are doing remote work now. They're not tied to a specific location. We have financial freedom. Which basically just means you have enough to buy back your time and ah solve any money related problems. You have the freedom from and of beliefs I think a lot of people are enslaved by beliefs that are a not true and b destructive and then you also have. Physical freedom and this is something that I have a lot of experience with this is what all of my training programs are about is how to get you more physically free within your own body so you get to make the decisions not your sore knee. Not your sore back. Which is basically like a little tyrant who's like fuck you don't climb that tree. So unfortunately most exercise maybe ninety plus percent and maybe 95 plus they waste your energy and make you less athletic. That's that's real shit. Okay.

01:20:29.66

mikebledsoe

Accurate.

01:20:32.76

Max Shank

So freedom of time freedom of location freedom of money freedom to freedom of and from Beliefs and also physical freedom. That's that's what I got for you guys.

01:20:42.51

mikebledsoe

Well said well son and remember get that context before the content understand you know why the constitution says what it says look here's the thing I don't think it's the end. All be all.

01:20:52.10

Max Shank

Ooh Talk dirty.

01:21:00.72

mikebledsoe

But it's the best we got So with that we'll leave it there go to Masank Dot Com Yeah and what's the go to the Bloodso show dot Com Hopefully I'll get that members area up soon when I say I I mean my team will get the members area up soon.

01:21:05.81

Max Shank

Um, who the http://bloodsoho.com

01:21:16.95

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:21:20.10

mikebledsoe

And ah, we'll get it rocking and rolling. Love you guys. Happy Independence day.

01:21:24.66

Max Shank

Love you brother take care Bye everybody.

Jun 30, 2022

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Jun 20, 2022

00:00.00

mikebledsoe

I Think yeah I did one of those um inner Tube River Lazy River thing never done it before been Whitewater raft and canoeing always in Rivers never did the I'm not can hardly do shit as I let the water take me.

00:00.00

Max Shank

Sounds good to me.

00:08.26

Max Shank

The Lazy river.

00:37.76

Max Shank

Aha.

00:39.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so it took a friend organizing it with a bunch of people who I actually like to spend time with to get me to do nothing on a river and I got out there I got out there and it was. Ah, there was a crowd it was it was like bumper boats for 4 hours in this river it's in Austin yeah south of off and Marcos and when we got there, we're like holy shit's busy and the people working there go oh hasn't gotten busy yet. So.

01:28.44

Max Shank

This is in Austin. Well yeah.

01:58.72

mikebledsoe

Anyways, yeah, that was ah that was my weekend that and barbecue and laughing with friends.

02:05.46

Max Shank

Lazy River is exciting.

02:17.38

Max Shank

I'll tell you what makes me laugh is your story about you having some very close friends give you permission to just float in a River it sounds ah like this joke about um, meditation and yoga. It's like.

02:45.76

mikebledsoe

Ah.

02:51.56

Max Shank

People in None world countries need someone from a None world country to remind them that it's okay to do nothing for 20 minutes it's like you get permission to do nothing for 20 minutes with meditation class or yoga or something like that. It's like.

03:07.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

03:27.88

Max Shank

You just do nothing.

03:28.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, we had a friend of her for dinner on Friday night and we talked about that which was you know talking about you know oh I got a meditation practice and I got a visualization practice and I got qi gong and it's like all these practices and talked about just. The value of not you know, getting trapped in the in the practices and the value of just sitting on the side of a lake and staring at the water and doing absolutely nothing and not worried about your posture or anything like that in just that space.

04:36.56

Max Shank

Well, it's like not concerning yourself with the outcome right? Like you don't you don't care if you have produced more widgets or harvested more grains right.

04:44.40

mikebledsoe

You know.

05:04.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's kind of like play.

05:09.82

Max Shank

And that's what we're doing. That's that's like how we judge if if we're good in a lot of relationships because that's where we gain our judgments from is these relationships that we've had so we say it's good to do this. It's bad to do that and. What's interesting is how few people can balance out both and I'm speaking from my own experience as well. It's like None or the other typically and figuring out how to rive the natural cycles which is a wave.

06:11.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

06:26.68

Max Shank

Um, is super valuable. Skill no wind to float in the Lazy River and you know when it's time to climb up the mountain or dig out the gold mine or ah till the field you you go get that shit done with total focus and it. Kind of goes back to what we talked about with the the Jungle cats and the lions and predators of various kinds. It's like they they basically are in rest mode rest and recovery and form bonds with the family or focused. They're not.. They're not hurrying typically right? There's a difference between being hurried and being focused and that's what I try to do sometimes I even get it Sometimes I do it where I'm I'm just focused or relaxed and if I'm relaxed I'm.

07:42.62

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

08:20.22

Max Shank

I'm letting my focus diffuse into a soft glow like a lantern that you could look directly at it doesn't hurt your eyes or you can focus down like a laser pointer or a laser cutter and you can actually slice through metal with it so being able to. Lazy River or Whitewater Raft. You know that sort of thing or lantern versus laser.

09:10.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um I think back in my early days of all a not not understanding the value of the space of doing nothing and just playing with no outcome and and how much benefit that gives me on the day. Ah. When I do want to focus the ability to do so is there and I like we were saying about the the lantern and or the laser yesterday is a good example that is I did float on Saturday but yesterday my fiance.

10:02.80

Max Shank

Earth.

10:20.94

mikebledsoe

So I got says I I need a lot I got a lot of work to do and I said you know what I got a lot of work to do too because I've got a summit coming up and you know there's a I've got a long list and I've got a couple podcast episodes to record this week so there's some things I need to prep for but I'm not gonna. You know it's Sunday and I know that I've got I'm working till next Sunday I don't have a day off between now I'm next Sunday and I'm going to take it easy I probably was more productive and enjoyed my work more without worrying about how much I got done that day.

11:33.44

Max Shank

I mean.

11:36.74

mikebledsoe

And yeah, it's I find that especially when I was younger a lot of time spent a lot of times spent chugging coffee and overstimulating myself for the purpose of thinking that was going to help me do something better.

11:56.46

Max Shank

Totally power through baby well and you'll be more good as judged by all of your peers. It's all the program that's been installed and if everything is sacrificed for the outcome.

12:21.24

mikebledsoe

Right here.

12:33.34

Max Shank

The extreme example is someone who's going to blow themselves up because the programming was so effective That's crazy so being able to draw boundaries is really what it comes back to is can you draw a boundary for space for yourself.

12:44.32

mikebledsoe

No no.

13:12.84

Max Shank

And I actually remember a conversation I had with a member at my gym once and I watched this person transform over a period of time I learned about how their work and their life goes and things like that and they were you know real high performer Worker. And her her biggest challenge was to set clear boundaries for herself to do things that were for her I mean she was give give give essentially I'll I'll get all the work done and then just pile some more on and then I'll get that done too and.

14:03.52

mikebledsoe

A.

14:29.96

Max Shank

Always the last priority and I remember she was asking if she could drop the the personal training from her membership and just do the classes and I said look ah personal train do classes. Whatever you want to do but make an appointment for yourself every week. That you never miss Basically like you have to keep that as a priority and that's one of the reasons that personal training works is because the person is heavily invested to show up at the given time and once that billing and scheduling is all dialed in.

15:11.62

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

15:44.54

Max Shank

It makes it very easy to show up every time but if it's ah, a group membership and no one really is going to follow up if you aren't coming in there. It's a totally different Thing. So I think it comes back to drawing boundaries. Between those times where you are allowed or allowing yourself to do nothing.

16:27.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, my None task on Monday mornings is to schedule out my rejuvenating activities for the rest of the week when am I going to work out when am I going to go song a cold plunge when am I going to hang out with my friends.

16:46.86

Max Shank

He.

17:06.56

mikebledsoe

All that scheduled out None thing Monday morning before I even look at what I need to do for work that week and yeah it for me it. It requires that level of of commitment to self in order to follow through on that stuff.

17:13.81

Max Shank

Oh.

17:35.76

Max Shank

Oh draw boundaries. That's why relationships don't work right? Well, that's why relationships go South is ah, people didn't draw boundaries quick enough. Basically.

17:41.36

mikebledsoe

But most people never do it. Yeah, didn't yeah, they just don't even consider the boundaries in the None place. Yeah, you know? Yeah, they're not even aware usually like the the boundary most people.

18:12.96

Max Shank

Right.

18:20.32

mikebledsoe

Discovered that the boundary even exists when they get mad like ah, a boundary getting crossed it it triggers anger and then a lot of times the the right? the right person to be angry at yourself. But.

18:41.28

Max Shank

Um, it's internalized like right.

18:55.16

mikebledsoe

It's projected out and blamed on someone else when you know my big thing is anytime I get angry with somebody else I check in with myself to say you know what boundary was crossed and did I communicate that boundary and most of the time I didn't and then I got.

19:13.96

Max Shank

Yeah, yeah.

19:32.70

mikebledsoe

Check out in myself. But then I go have the conversation about where my boundary is with that person and you know it's always things usually clear up after that.

19:38.68

Max Shank

Um, yeah, yeah, um I would I would agree I think people um often don't check their boundaries. Quick enough and hold true to those lines and it makes it very difficult. Ah, and it's kind of an ah accumulating Burden I think even and you don't really know how much you.

20:16.74

mikebledsoe

Now just.

20:40.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

20:51.56

Max Shank

Like resentment and blame you can start hanging onto just just because 100% your responsibility you should have drawn boundaries. That's why anytime like what you're saying oh I'm mad at this person. It's like well that's silly because. Whatever happened happened and that was possible from from back when you started that relationship right? That's that's fine. Whatever just ah, try to learn from it and this back to the thing about being focused versus hurried or.

21:32.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

22:05.72

Max Shank

Whatever there's a big difference between just putting all your focus onto something and being emotionally charged up about it.

22:17.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so we want to talk about today. Yeah I think we've done boundaries before.

22:25.10

Max Shank

What do I want to talk about I want to talk about the well. Okay, last week we talked about stuff basically which was cool. We talked about stuff. Making stuff.

23:01.80

mikebledsoe

I Only remember what what stuff will we talk about.

23:10.30

Max Shank

Um, we were talking about how come on you we were yeah but you're supposed to treasure mine forever. Whatever I say I'm sure you have like a separate diary just for the conversations that you and I have.

23:24.26

mikebledsoe

I've had a lot of thoughts between last week and right now and it gets cluttered. Oh.

23:50.24

Max Shank

I mean I know like everyone can tell that you get really excited throwing a word the round throwing around the word fiance now. So I know you got a lot on your mind. You're you're going to be this new person. You're going to be like oh well, you know now that I'm married.

24:08.94

mikebledsoe

M.

24:24.28

Max Shank

And it's going to be just like last week when you said well now that I'm you know a little older a little wiser I think it's just going to play in to that that guru status that you've developed because now you'll be older wiser married get some kids going and then your avatar. Will be complete so you can you know really have some authority on these messages for the men who listen to us significantly long that we shouldn't even see the neck on that tank top. It should go down at least ten more inches gandalph style.

25:12.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah I need ah I need a longer beard too.

25:30.18

mikebledsoe

Now see what Ashley says about that.

25:39.66

Max Shank

No, we were talking about making stuff though last week like the the value of making stuff physically with your hands and there's and there's a lot of truth that is discovered when you do that because there and it kind of ties so I would tie back.

25:49.84

mikebledsoe

Oh oh yeah.

26:04.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

26:18.26

Max Shank

We talked about last week into the so that was the matter or the stuff and maybe we could go into the pattern of things so we could talk a little bit about vibration and rhythm and frequency if if you wanted to It's kind of a. Challenging topic to really follow, but it's um, the reason it reminded me is father's day. It was father's day and you know the word father comes from the word ah pattern and the word mother comes from the word matter. So there's.

27:10.80

mikebledsoe

Um.

27:28.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, why say we go with that. Let's go with that. Yeah I'm I'm down to tackle the pattern conversation that sounds good.

27:31.68

Max Shank

Matter and pattern so it seems like a nice logical transition.

27:53.38

Max Shank

Yeah, so let's say we try to break it down into ah patterns of human beings which is kind of like programs of human beings. So we have that which is I would say that's the most practical level. Is the patterns of humans. Ah we also have ah Dna is a pattern and another synonym for pattern is code.

28:57.40

mikebledsoe

I think.

28:59.20

Max Shank

So you have Dna you got computer programming you got programming human beings. You got the different ah frequencies and wavelengths of things as it relates to the materials we make.

29:28.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think it's gonna be a fun topic Actually the more the more you're talking I'm thinking and yeah, this will be a full.

29:43.46

Max Shank

Um, you could argue that matter and Pattern are the only topics that we could discuss.

29:56.40

mikebledsoe

I think so yeah, everything falls under those 2 categories. That's right.

30:06.70

Max Shank

Stuff and not stuff like okay here here's ah, an interesting example right? We have all these forces which is the way we describe. Okay, all right? No, we're Okay, we're we're kicked.

30:23.88

mikebledsoe

Hang on hang on. Let's kick the show off and then get into it. Yeah I think I think we're set are we clicked I wrote the date on the top of the page. Um.

30:41.42

Max Shank

Okay, you took some notes.

30:55.12

Max Shank

I have this I have this fantasy in my mind when I see you looking down and writing something that it's like oh these like excellent notes are like a mind map or something like that or maybe a checklist of things to cover. Really you've just written your name in the date in the corner.

31:23.40

mikebledsoe

Um, no half the time It's the date I'm practicing spelling my name. Yeah.

31:38.76

Max Shank

Okay, so we'll talk about Pattern for in honor of father's day.

31:47.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah I said I say ah why don't you go ahead and do the intro and then we'll talk about the the membership site and then you can go into your explanation for. Father and pattern How about that and then we'll just go from there.

32:31.50

Max Shank

And the membership site just so I'm clear is in the beginning of the show I put my camera to expose the nipples and then when the public show starts I tilt it back up. So the nipples are ah not visible is that.

33:03.86

mikebledsoe

You got it. You got it? yeah.

33:09.94

Max Shank

Is that right? I'm a simple man I like a simple plan. My nips are only free to me but not to you.

33:27.22

mikebledsoe

All right? You want to kick off the intro today. All right? yep.

33:32.94

Max Shank

Yeah let's do it already. Ah None 2 None welcome back to Monday mornings with max and Mike Today we're gonna. Follow up what we talked about last week last week was a heck of a fun conversation about stuff matter substance working with your hands a little bit about manufacturing. It was a crazy excellent conversation. Go check it out Today. We're gonna talk about the other side. The pattern. I think it's very cool that the words mother and father are actually derived from matter and pattern and so that's what we're gonna talk about today. We're gonna talk about how pattern is present in your Dna your cell phone behaviors of human beings. And much much more and welcome welcome again. Mike thanks for sitting down with me I'm very excited and a little intimidated to tackle this topic today.

35:20.58

mikebledsoe

Well said.

35:41.48

mikebledsoe

Ah sorry I can make a bunch of bullshit up. Ah so for for those of you who who love this show.

35:51.98

Max Shank

I Don't like it for the record folks I don't like when he does that.

36:04.22

mikebledsoe

Ah, but for um, all we we decide to open up the membership site and we're gonna be posting exclusive content. There's a conversation that always happens previous to this show today's show we had 16 minutes and 55 seconds of content. Of us figuring out what we were going to talk about. But of course we can't help ourselves from delivering gold at every moment. So if you yep, None nipples on the preshow. So do that one.

36:53.52

Max Shank

There were also 2 nipples on the pre-show in case that matters I don't know why why should people do that one like what are they going to get out of that. Are they going to get some more interaction with us.

37:17.16

mikebledsoe

1 maybe it's exclusive content for now we're going to see where it goes. Yeah well I had a guy.

37:25.32

Max Shank

Just exclusive content I Think yeah, we should see what people want though also because I could see ah I could see something really cool forming out of this So I just want to serve our our customers The best way I can.

37:54.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah I had a guy ah on Instagram Atx window tent and clean. He sent me message it and said he would donate for more podcasts with me and you so um, what I want to do is we're gonna set it up. It's not set up. As of today. But if you're listening to this what I'm Goingnna do is I'm going to create a link on the http://bloodsoio.com. So if you go to there. There's going to be a place where you can sign up for this and it's gonna be pay what you want so it's donation based anywhere between a dollar and $5000000 ah.

38:58.12

Max Shank

Love it.

39:09.36

mikebledsoe

And we'll set up a we'll make it a monthly subscription and as long as you're.

39:13.16

Max Shank

Are we sponsored by Austin Tint and window by the way atx tint and window.

39:23.34

mikebledsoe

You know we may mention him more depending on the size of his donation or her donation I'm not sure if it's a man or woman. So I the this.

39:49.66

Max Shank

So wait. So wait, you're telling me they can pay what they want and we don't even really know what they're going to get yet. We know they're going to get exclusive content. There's no question. You're going to hear words there that you won't hear anywhere else but there might be even more than that is what you're saying So it's like.

40:14.90

mikebledsoe

Yep.

40:24.34

mikebledsoe

Well well part of this yeah part part part of this. Well the thing is the people that are going to donate to the show. They're going to contribute funds to make sure that this show keeps happening because you know what it takes a couple hours out of max and I week

40:29.48

Max Shank

Ah, bonus price Mystery box That's incredible.

41:02.62

mikebledsoe

And you know we got to keep the lights on and all that. But ah yeah, so the people.

41:09.12

Max Shank

Well you vote with your dollars too I'm I'm a big fan of that. So if you like really want more of something then you know that's that's the only way you can really influence it I say that in your whole life too. You know, buy what you like.

41:36.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, spend money where you want things to improve So Ah so for one if you enjoy the show and you just want to Contribute. It's a great way to do it. You're also going to get exclusive content And. Ah, you are going to have the loudest voice out of everyone who has an opinion about what we should be doing So We're more likely to listen to those who are donating the most amount of money So That's all that's all on that So we'll get that set up I've got a summit coming up this weekend. So.

42:35.80

Max Shank

Very exciting.

42:48.40

mikebledsoe

My team is completely distracted with things that they think is important so that I can do the show. But.

42:59.82

Max Shank

It must have taken a lot of ah instruction to organize all those people together for a summit. He segwayed perfectly because someone has to orchestrate.

43:15.70

mikebledsoe

Instruction. Um, yeah, yeah, there's a ah lot of direction.

43:37.32

Max Shank

Someone has to orchestrate the code for getting that job done and if you think about the Pattern. So the bread. The the dough is the stuff. The recipe is the pattern. The sperm is the pattern. The egg is the stuff. Matter mother Pattern father. So It sounds like you are the father of this event because you have determined the structure of its organization.

44:36.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, we create this structure and then I brought in a lot of speakers who are going to contribute so they they bring a lot of stuff and I organize it and I time it I announce it I create a container.

44:55.22

Max Shank

Right.

45:10.16

Max Shank

Oh.

45:13.70

mikebledsoe

So it's a container of time so it starts at a certain time ends at a certain time we we do have a frequency of of time in between so this speaker starts here ends there. There's also a consideration for what type of content is gonna presented it. Be presented in what order to make the most sense so that we can stare step people through a series of understanding. So while I also have no idea what the speakers are going to say like I I know their topic but I and I know they're good because almost all of them been in the industry for twenty plus years

46:09.48

Max Shank

Right? right.

46:27.00

mikebledsoe

So I know it's going to be good I Just don't know what exactly that content's going to be and that's actually a lot of fun for me.

46:40.28

Max Shank

And that's the that's the practical side of patterns. That's the most practical side of patterns because most of our interactions are with people or or with stuff but usually with people I would say unless you're just specifically with materials and.

47:04.92

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah art.

47:18.36

Max Shank

That's what teaching is it's basically ah, it's like the least substantial thing there is is pure instruction because there's no stuff being transferred. There's only code. Being transferred.. There's only the pattern that is being sent to another person.

48:07.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

48:13.64

Max Shank

But that's what drives people and the bible is a program. The constitution is a program these are patterns. These are these have their own ah force and vibration to them right.

48:44.12

mikebledsoe

What I'm glad you bring that up.

48:49.16

Max Shank

When it comes to the way that humans interact and behave and you take that plus it's like that plus Dna those are the None intersecting patterns that sort of weave together and you could I don't know I think the nature versus nurture argument is the wrong. Perspective I think it's nature and nurture and it's all the same kind of.

49:33.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and and everything you were just saying right there and we look at the patterns that have had the longest staying power. So like we talk about the bible or christianity. It's a pattern that has had really long staying power a lot of other religions have fallen by the wayside.

50:07.36

Max Shank

Relative to other human religions. It's had incredible staying power.

50:11.88

mikebledsoe

And yeah, yeah, now the the patterns you talk about nature versus nurture. But what I one of the things that I've found to be ah, really powerful is studying the patterns of nature and then either mimicking that.

50:37.32

Max Shank

Then oh.

50:50.84

mikebledsoe

Or if we're going to be working with nature which we always are is how do we harness that if you try to create a structure that is not in alignment with nature. You're going to be. You're going to lose that battle and so there is and I think it creates some.

50:55.86

Max Shank

I will know.

51:30.56

mikebledsoe

Difficulty so one of the ways I like to think about patterns and frequencies and I think about frequencies specifically and I like to start at the macro and work our way down to the micro and then when we do that I think people really start getting an understanding of how the universe works. And this was pointed out to me by a guy named Daniel Schmackenberger he explained it to me and I go huh that act that that's in person in person. He explained it to me.

52:18.34

Max Shank

Um, did he explain it to you in person. What an interesting character that guy is I've listened to a few of his things and he's a very interesting cat. But.

52:39.16

mikebledsoe

He used to live down the street from us and I probably had a sit down with him every three months when I was living in Socal and we jammed and the guy. The guy is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. Um, but ah, we were talking about seasons and cycles and.

52:54.60

Max Shank

Um, about that. Yeah.

53:18.70

mikebledsoe

And lunar and solar and we look at the yeah we look at the pattern and we look at the patterns of nature. We look at patterns of the universe and the the None one the one that's easiest for us to all be aware of is probably the lunar cycle. So.

53:24.66

Max Shank

There's a pattern.

53:53.90

mikebledsoe

Or the 4 seasons. Um, these are both cycles the 4 seasons all happen in an annual basis. It gets hot it cools off. It gets really cold. It gets warm. It gets hot. It does that ah to.

54:16.72

Max Shank

So like the days and the moons. Ah, and the years are easy are like easy to notice. Outwardly.

54:35.80

mikebledsoe

They're easy to notice and so you have the lunar There's you know about thirteen lunar cycles in a year. Um some may ah some do argue that the fact that we have twelve months in the year and we have 13 lunar cycles is actually fighting nature a little bit. And we might be better off if we had a little bit different system. But this thing is pretty ingrained the gregorian calendar. Ah we have the lunar cycles which are which are monthly and then inside of that they're really the the weekly cycle Monday through Sunday is.

55:21.94

Max Shank

Oh man. Yeah, we.

55:46.18

mikebledsoe

I don't really see anything demonstrated in nature that seems like to me a very human construct to divide up those 28 ish days ah between lunar cycles and we want to like look all the way back through history. Yeah into weeks.

56:10.26

Max Shank

into into weeks um I don't know what the origin of the week is actually is kind of an interesting question.

56:21.98

mikebledsoe

And days are obvious the the daily cycle the sun comes up the sun goes down and I have no idea I mean somebody Dm me let me know and the.

56:52.54

Max Shank

We're just we're gonna trust your dude. Okay, this is why you are not in charge of the fucking research department I'll wait for the None direct message on Instagram to give me the answer and then I just get a fucking go with that you you lunatic speaking of moon.

57:09.48

mikebledsoe

Ah, no I need a starting point I need a.

57:23.70

Max Shank

That's where the luna lunatic comes from fucking lunatic. Yeah, so just Dm your effect that's like slightly less reliable than Wikipedia.

57:26.78

mikebledsoe

I. Well no I want to I want to I want the people in the audience to participate in the process of us finding information. They said it to me I'll I'll still verify it I'll look it up but I I'm gonna let someone initiate. So um.

57:59.74

Max Shank

Ah I'm just kidding I Love Wikipedia. Okay, so we have ah we have years we have moons so we have solar year we have moons. Let's forget about weeks. Let's go straight to heartbeats from there so we got year.

58:13.68

mikebledsoe

So about.

58:34.60

mikebledsoe

That's ah, that's where I was. That's where we're going is That's exactly what I've written down. Actually we're on the same page but it gets down to you get up and go to sleep. You have a Circadian rhythm you have a hormonal.

58:38.74

Max Shank

Moon day heartbeat.

58:58.98

mikebledsoe

Ah, rhythm throughout the day based on the sun coming up sun going down moon coming out all these things and then yeah it it comes down to heartbeat brain waves brainwave frequencies and so yeah.

59:22.96

Max Shank

Which is a lot faster because hertz is the way we measure frequency and hurts is calculated in cycles per second. So if something is it and I think we have the ability to hear things between oh gosh. Ah. 1 d-ish hurts to None something around there so we have a pretty big. There's ah, there's a great thing um to visualize the spectrum of frequencies but just remember that hurts is in cycles per second so your heart. Ah.

01:00:11.98

mikebledsoe

I should know that.

01:00:40.80

Max Shank

It beats once every second so cycles per second would be like 1 basically right.

01:00:42.30

mikebledsoe

Once a second. Yeah.

01:00:56.26

mikebledsoe

You know? Yeah, so we have all these different frequencies and None of the one of the ways reasons I like to think about frequencies in this way is because it allows. Me to see more clearly how I'm connected to the entire universe it. It reduces the amount of separation that I'm perceiving and whole with it. Yeah and I'm tuned into it once I learned this I I got a lot better about going down with the sun and coming up with the sun and.

01:01:33.92

Max Shank

You feel more whole with it. You feel more part of it.

01:01:55.64

Max Shank

Oh.

01:02:01.20

mikebledsoe

My health improved and all sorts of things. So I like that the idea of talking about the micro macro to the micro and the pattern is always present. There's nothing that we can observe that doesn't have it and it's not participating.

01:02:33.60

Max Shank

Yeah, there's a great little chart if you type in em spectrum into Google images you can find ah a really nice little visual aid I think it's really important.

01:03:02.92

mikebledsoe

Em spectrum.

01:03:06.66

Max Shank

Yeah, just type in em spectrum into Google and hit images and that'll show you ah you know on the 1 hand when you have ah something like the visible light spectrum and then.

01:03:43.36

mikebledsoe

E.

01:03:43.60

Max Shank

You go beyond above it. You have ultraviolet spectrum and then you have infrared so below what we can see and there's all this stuff happening and the way to tie it all together and simplify it in my mind is to say that vision.

01:04:00.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:04:21.86

Max Shank

Doesn't show you everything. That's there. It just shows you? What's important and there but there's so much stuff vibrating everywhere and everything's got its own um frequency to it and that goes all the way down like. Most watches are set with a quartz crystal actually because it vibrates at a certain frequency and I think ah the way an atomic clock works is with something like caesium.

01:05:19.48

mikebledsoe

Everyone's cell phone has a quartz crystal in it.

01:05:40.34

Max Shank

And so you think here's this this like bunch of stuff like a crystal but it's got this frequency that it's emitting from it all the time.

01:06:01.68

mikebledsoe

Man I spent hours talking about crystals on Saturday night with some friends. The I think we might open up a crystal shop here in Austin the next the next business venture. You think it'll be good I think we could we could pull.

01:06:27.60

Max Shank

I Think if you focus on it. It will be I think if you focus on it. It'll be awesome and if you ah, don't try that hard then it depends on who you partnered with.

01:06:46.98

mikebledsoe

All right? Yeah I'm I'm looking for solid partners for crystal shop here in Austin Texas.

01:06:55.54

Max Shank

I Like talking about crystals too but not with people who only know the esoteric side of Crystals I need someone to like bridge the gap between the physics and the more esoteric kind of philosophical Astro astrology because.

01:07:14.66

mikebledsoe

Boy Yeah I have a friend.

01:07:35.28

Max Shank

I'm I'm hip with it and I I like to know what's really going on in there.

01:07:44.98

mikebledsoe

Well, both sides are really nice I What are my buddies he used to be in the crystal business and and he can talk about how the crystal in your phone works and tie that into more of the esoteric as well and so he can He spans the whole thing I'm gonna have him on the show.

01:07:54.82

Max Shank

You gotta work them together.

01:08:12.20

Max Shank

Right.

01:08:21.88

mikebledsoe

Here in the next month or so and I don't know if we'll talk about Crystals because he's an expert in other things as well. But maybe we'll cover that for everybody.

01:08:28.34

Max Shank

Yeah I have a friend actually who I have a friend who his whole ah career. Basically right now is studying crystals so his his equipment that he has available in the lab is so tight that he can actually fire a neutron beam. To see really really tiny crystals of proteins to make for pharmaceuticals so his whole job is like trial and error. Let's let's throw some fucking heat and some of this over here and he's basically in a laboratory and then firing a little beam. Neutrons to look at the shapes to see if they're going to be able to bind or unite ah with other molecules in the body. It's it's really fascinating and you look at how all of those different interactions are things usually have a charge like positive or negative. And they often will also have a ah conforming shape and you can take that all the way down. It's it's easy to get lost with how many branches that you can take this down in terms of the energy transformation because that's really all we're doing is we're taking. Energy and we're transforming it into some other type of energy. That's really what family is about. You're taking energy from outside and then you're adding it to the family fungus is doing that we're doing that Orca are doing that. Basically you're trying to assimilate more energy and grow. Size of your empire ants fungus us and yeah and ah different creatures do it in different ways like ah in the life of a mycelium fungus that's slowly branching out a myceoleal network.

01:11:46.14

mikebledsoe

Simulate organize create a structure with that energy divert that energy.

01:12:18.34

Max Shank

They don't really budget time for ah like deviance and pleasure and vacations and things like that and we we do. We have all this crazy stuff Beyond grow the family but that's the that's the prevailing pattern because.

01:12:43.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:12:56.64

Max Shank

If you don't have that then that branch of the family tree cuts itself. So you you almost have it's why religions kind of follow the same thing Thou Shalt have no other gods before me because this has to be the foundation of your pattern of your programming.

01:13:02.14

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:13:33.34

Max Shank

Right? You can't like just pick and choose oh hey like you know you hindus. That's pretty cool but I like steak So I'm not going to go with this crew and you Christians are great but I want to eat pigs or you know whatever they don't like that doesn't it doesn't have the same um unity. It doesn't have the same.

01:13:55.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:14:11.50

Max Shank

Ah, resonance and harmony of the the the vibration there isn't it interesting that they also sing every Sunday that that's a big thing is singing together. We got to get back to that though.

01:14:18.66

mikebledsoe

Yeah I. Yeah, yeah I notice having interacted heavily with the new age spiritual Community and I I've never really considered myself new age. But the. The new age Spiritual Community is interesting because it does feel like a lot of the people in that community are adopting they're picking and choosing. They're cherry picking things from different religions and then creating their own little thing but it really does lack a foundation that I.

01:15:30.88

Max Shank

E.

01:15:46.62

mikebledsoe

I Think that the that community it feels very wishy-washy feels very too flowy to there's there's some people in in this community that are very popular and when they post things and when they talk about things. Sounds very flowery. But I don't know exactly what they mean and I don't think they know what they mean either.

01:16:36.34

Max Shank

Oh you mean like a flower like that thing that is designed to attract I'm not surprised.. The only thing we can possibly get is people being little flowers. There's no way. We you? you can't rise above the noise unless you make yourself into a pretty flower like you know you could tell people the truth is like look um there there are a lot of tools out there that we can use and you don't really know what the.

01:17:13.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:17:46.26

Max Shank

Potential benefit and potential cost of those tools is you? You don't really know how those tools can be used. You don't know the pattern or the code of how to put those tools to the best use and that's also what coaching and instruction is it's how to get the most out of those tools. So. The recipe for bread the recipe for making ah semiconductors and computers and automobiles. Ah what is that without the instructions. It's just stuff without the the instructions to put it all together. It's just stuff. Dna same thing. It actually determines where the protein is going to go where the collagen is going to get laid down. It's insane ah to try to like differentiate those 2 things because.

01:19:38.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:19:43.90

Max Shank

What is the stuff without the the movement of the stuff. What I mean there's there's nothing. That's perfectly still is kind of ah a weird ah trip to think about and I think a lot of that um can be described by like. Atomic structures as we understand it like the density of the packing of the atomic nuclei and the lattice work that they take ah see this. We're like way too far outside of my understanding but basically things are packed much tighter. When they are more denser so you have a ah gal you have ah an air compressor. You can compress the air and actually shove more into that same space and then as you get harder and harder Materials. There's less and less give that you can shove into that same space.

01:21:03.28

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:21:35.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:21:40.20

Max Shank

And that's also why in order to have a faraday cage which doesn't let ah electromagnetic radiation in it has to be made out of metal. It can't be made out of wood because it can get through because wood is less dent like how crazy is that when you think about it because the wood is still solid.

01:22:17.42

mikebledsoe

Yep.

01:22:18.96

Max Shank

But the reason you need it to be metal is because of the closeness of the lattice of those atoms. So. There's actually less space than usual and then with air with wood with metal. Tungsten Plutonium All that other stuff it's because it's more and more tightly packed and that's that's also um, how nature patterns itself pretty much if you look at a tree and a set of lungs. It starts out with a big pipe. And then it splits and splits and splits into little branches and ah leaves and branches branches little capillaries alviolles and things like that. So you're trying to maximize the ah surface area right? It's like giving yourself more.

01:23:59.14

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:24:07.72

Max Shank

Ah, relationships with the environment.

01:24:10.60

mikebledsoe

But that Pattern works best with the planet Earth for the exchange of of air of Oxygen carbon dioxide. Whatever it is whatever the exchange of these molecules are and when you're talking about Oxygen Carbon dioxide. It's no. A mystery why the lungs in the tree look very similar. It's just a shit works. Um, yeah.

01:24:57.56

Max Shank

Gas exchange happening all the time and that's a pattern that's a relationship between those 2 inhale exhale without algae and trees. We'd all be dead.

01:25:22.40

mikebledsoe

Very true. The I want to break this down and into and a 4 different quadrants. So I'm I'm a big fan I've I've talked about before of Ken Wilbur's a call map a qal so if you Google a cap a q a l space. Map then you'll get an idea of what I'm you'll get a visual of what I'm talking about here and so it's ah the upper quadrant is the individual the lower half of the quadrant is the collective. The left side of the quadrant is the interior or the inside and the. Right side of the quadrant is the exterior. So if we go to the upper left hand quadrant what we're looking at is the interior self. So if we want to look at I really like talking about this map because it allows us to break down a topic as big as something like patterns into something that. We can look at and step by step and talk about it so to really simplify what's happening in the upper left hand quadrant which is the interior of self I really think about that as like thoughts and feelings your thoughts and your feelings. It's your internal world and there's patterns there. And so we have emotional patterns we have thought patterns and we have psychoemotional patterns where the thoughts and emotions have a pattern between the 2 of them. You have an emotion then there's a pattern of making meaning of what that emotion means and then. That can cycle cycle cycle so we have psycho emotional patterns that we need to be aware of and the certain certain things trigger those different patterns and it could be something like father's day something could get someone thinks about father's day and. The pattern may be celebration feeling really good make it mean call your dad that day. So I like to think about no.

01:29:30.90

Max Shank

I'm sure that's everybody's pattern.

01:29:45.30

Max Shank

Ah.

01:29:45.32

mikebledsoe

But but the ah but I like look what do what? you think about the Psycho emotional patterns. What have you noticed and learned about that.

01:30:06.18

Max Shank

So I think of it in a pretty simple way as people repeat what gives them a predictable result. Not even what gives them? ah an excellent result just a predictable one. So that's basically what a pattern is is.

01:30:31.70

mikebledsoe

M.

01:30:43.56

mikebledsoe

And people people do seek predictability. There's ah, there's a lot of people. They do ah a lot of.

01:30:43.86

Max Shank

There's predictability to it. So it's why people prefer people prefer the ah ah familiar pain to the unknown.

01:31:07.52

mikebledsoe

Yeah I've worked with a lot of people who they they came to me and there's something in their life. That's not working I mean that's that's really the the job of a coach is we work with people who they want something to be different in their life and. They want to change it and usually it's the the individual is trying to change something externally in order to create a different internal experience and a lot of times what we got to do.

01:32:12.00

Max Shank

Which can work.

01:32:18.00

mikebledsoe

Which can work but which does work which we can get into because we can talk about Environmental patterns. Ah.

01:32:25.22

Max Shank

Because a pattern is a relationship with your environment. There's a relationship within yourself which is kind of what you're talking about. But you're never in a vacuum. You know you take someone out of their existing environment and you put them into a different one and suddenly all their aches and pains go away.

01:32:43.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:33:03.12

Max Shank

Worked with this guy joint pain everywhere everything hurts ah instead of being in Boston at home. He goes down to Florida on vacation none of his shit hurts and it's like well why do you think that is like you have to explore what it is about that environment that you're that you have unresolved.

01:33:39.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:33:41.46

Max Shank

That your body is like essentially crying out because your ah pain is basically your brain saying ah not like this. That's all just not like this.. It's not ah, it's not. Ah, like bad.. It's not Shameful. It's not good. Sometimes it's incorrect where where you feel it isn't necessarily where the resolution is going to be Found. It's just a nonspecific signal that says not like this if you do it a different way. Maybe so.

01:34:36.18

mikebledsoe

Right? just.

01:34:52.28

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, so people at that spot on it pain is just ah, always talk about pain as a teacher. It's it's trying to teach you something and most people just sit in the pain because it is ah familiar.

01:34:54.20

Max Shank

But not like this.

01:35:24.30

Max Shank

Um, familiar I.

01:35:31.88

mikebledsoe

And people feel safe even in when it's painful. They'd rather feel if they feel safe in pain. They'll take that over you know the uncertainty and freedom and the a lot of times people want. You know who have been focused on changing something in their external environment even that they're not even really willing to make too many external environment changes because of what's happening internally of what that might mean for them and so yeah chicken of the egg. Yeah, and so if.

01:36:21.98

Max Shank

Um, that's a chicken or the egg type of situation too. Um.

01:36:37.40

mikebledsoe

If you've been beating your head on 1 way of making change and changing a pattern you may want to look at something else. So if you've been trying to change something environmentally or you've been trying to change your physical body and it's not working. Maybe you need to look at the internal body or you need to look at your relationships with people instead of just the environment.

01:37:11.94

Max Shank

And some people thrive on incremental change and some people thrive on radical change and is different for everybody you know, ah a lot of a lot of times where you make a leap forward in what you might call progress.

01:37:14.92

mikebledsoe

And so.

01:37:32.18

mikebledsoe

That's that's very true.

01:37:48.16

Max Shank

Because you took a giant leap toward a different environment or a different ah day-to-day Pattern It can be incremental or it can be radical.

01:38:02.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, so a lot of times these these internal patterns if we can shift those there might be ah emotions that we're making mean something with our thoughts and then that keeps us from maybe moving from Boston to Florida.

01:38:39.32

Max Shank

Right.

01:38:41.28

mikebledsoe

You know I I remember coaching one woman at this point and she she did not want to be working her job. She's like I do not like my job I want to get out of my industry I don't want to do this at all. But I'm not good at anything else. That was the story that she had. She had this internal story of yeah, that's the pattern. Yeah, and so it once we got to a point where she and she made really good money is is.

01:39:20.92

Max Shank

That's the pattern. That's some software. Yeah.

01:39:40.84

Max Shank

M.

01:39:47.70

mikebledsoe

We had to really sit down and and break down is it worth the you know is it worth possibly a lifestyle change downward which by the way is one of the people just don't do it once they hit a certain level of lifestyle coming back down that is incredibly difficult. Um, if you're used to living off $200000 a year and now I'm gonna ask you to live off $100000 a year people I I would I would have a very hard time with it people freak out wouldn't they just don't know how to do it. It's pretty much stuck there. But um.

01:40:54.24

Max Shank

Tell you? what though they would figure it out if they had to and I can I can guarantee that you know what I love speaking of patterns. So a prison that's that's a series of matter and patterns woven together to keep people inside.

01:41:03.80

mikebledsoe

They would fake Always do always do.

01:41:29.12

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:41:33.60

Max Shank

Designed by allegedly pretty smart people and guys still escape. So prison is full of the criminals who got caught so arguably the dumbest of the criminals because a smart criminal is still outside of the Jail That's what prisons do.

01:42:01.84

mikebledsoe

No.

01:42:08.62

Max Shank

They put all the dumb criminals in Jail to leave the really clever ones out of Jail so they can have the easier pick of what's left. But if you take the smart architects who are putting together this box those really smart guys. But the level of desire to be free of that Burden seems to supersede all of that technical Expertise All of the guards all of the stuff I mean it's what doesn't happen a lot but it still happens.

01:43:05.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, there's I mean if if you just study what's happening in the prisons right now not even escape but Gangs drugs. There's basically there's nothing but illegal activity happening in the prisons and the you know.

01:43:25.50

Max Shank

Gangs gangs.

01:43:40.20

Max Shank

Yeah, how could you stop it.

01:43:43.86

mikebledsoe

Ah, the stated the stated intent is for them to not be to not experience that. But yeah, you're basically just concentrating a bunch of people who got caught and ah will continue to do things.

01:44:08.26

Max Shank

Well I mean the prison system is a bad pattern. Um, because it it maximizes for ah, shame and isolation but not actually for compensation to the fucking victim of the crime.. The only thing we should care About. It does nothing for.. Ah.

01:44:50.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, I mean if if somebody violates.

01:44:56.80

Max Shank

It's like it's like it's like okay so a crime was Committed. What are we going to do are we going to help out the victim. No What we're going to do is we're going to take a little bit of everybody's money including the victims and then we're going to take the bad man to a bad place so he can. Get really isolated and angry at everybody and probably link up with a murderous gang. Ah, That's what we're going to do I'm waiting for the punchline but there it's there's nothing. There. Yeah.

01:45:55.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that's a very poor social pattern. So so I mean that's that's the that's the inside of you know of culture right? culture is the inside How we how we pattern our so our society. So.

01:46:24.60

Max Shank

Right? Well how you discipline how you discipline society right? because Rule rule is the threat and discipline is the act right? So if you if the culture.

01:46:28.86

mikebledsoe

The criminal Justice system.

01:47:02.78

Max Shank

Is in a bit of a dysfunctional abusive schizophrenic relationship with its policing of Behavior. Do you think that naturally a lot of people would do the same thing internally so that internal or pattern of how you ah Govern or police. Or discipline your own behavior whether you do it with blame and shame and isolation of that part of you versus acceptance and learning and reeducation of that party right? It's like you're putting the same experience through a very different.

01:48:03.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:48:17.88

Max Shank

Filter which I mean look the way we make Filters is really really tinier and tinier Meshes just like a net a water filter and a net that you catch fish with the the main difference is the size of the openings.

01:48:49.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, it's interesting when I think about these patterns I think about how they begun or began begun began and um these these patterns are fractal in nature so they usually started off as. They always start off as something small if we look at the pattern of humanity and um, there were not that many people on this planet five hundred years ago if you if you went to Paris France Five hundred years ago there weren't that many people there. I mean it was big for its time but compared to now it was just so tiny but all the rules all the ideas about how society should be governed stem from that time and.

01:50:07.24

Max Shank

M.

01:50:29.82

Max Shank

From France five hundred years ago or from the greeks like two thousand ish years ago like de ah when was democritus.

01:50:38.58

mikebledsoe

Well yeah, you keep going for their back but I'm just using people can I think people I think people can possibly like if we don't go too far back. But yeah you you keep going further and further back you go to the greeks you go to the hebrews you go to the Egyptians and you you follow the the thread.

01:51:04.88

Max Shank

Right? I for an eye you follow the thread which is interesting because it's like um how they did history for a while was through these tapestries and they would actually tell a story through the the chain.

01:51:16.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:51:30.24

mikebledsoe

A.

01:51:44.20

Max Shank

So it's it's really funny ah connection I made the other day and there are too many word puns to follow, but the funny connection I made is that a link is one connection and a chain is multiple connections in sequence Dna multiple connections in sequence. So that's a big difference. Um. In how those connections work together. Ah um, a chain is many connections. A matrix is also a different orientation of many connections and so different elements have different structures. That are more matrix-like or more chain-like like for example, long chain fatty acids that sort of thing so there are these um, different ways that we connect to things and a lot of it like you said tracing the thread. Back that's what we try to do. We're trying to go back and figure out where those connections started being made and the further back you go. It's none becomes None None becomes 2 None becomes 3 3 becomes all things that was in the dao two thousand years ago that's a pattern that a guy wrote down and we still can't ah absorb it. We can regurgitate it we can bounce it around. We can modify it but all those all those written things left a pattern and that is I think the story of. Human supremacy when you get right down to it. It's the fact that we were able to accumulate written knowledge and access it really quickly so you can take I mean right now on Youtube there's a thing learning about how materials are put together. Ah, Youtube channels called us auto industry and they take you through hydraulics and gears and aerodynamics and drag and they take you through all of these different things. The videos are super crystal clear simple and it's like you took that expert. His whole life and synthesized it into 10 minutes but those 10 minutes were based on generation after generation after generation of patterned ah accumulation of knowledge. So it's like ah, an external brain so we could. Ah, decode for later just very similar to Dna. It's basically a code for making a car or Dna is like a code for making proteins. But it's all it's all based on our ability to keep a record of it and a Dna of course is a living record.

01:57:14.86

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well I think about what you were saying with written. Ah we have records written and up until what one hundred years ago most people were were illiterate and a small percentage of the population could even read. So only a small percentage of population had access to understanding and not only that the books that they had access to they usually existed in a university and so there was ah a highly It was a high concentration of knowledge that. People studied that were dictating society and then about one hundred years ago literacy started to really take hold and you know because they talked about the printing press but the printing the printing press it preceded literacy without the printing press. There wouldn't be literacy but the technology. Ah. Of there being an abundance of books caused the human mind to go be curious about that enough to study how to read to learn it and now we fast forward.

01:59:36.12

Max Shank

Printing press I think that was a big thing for the gutenberg bible right.

01:59:39.38

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and I think the I think the benefit of back then was there was a limited amount of things that you could consider and you didn't have to look. You didn't have to sift through as much to go back to the beginning. Or as far back to the beginning as you could now we pull out our phone and there's videos and everything that have trapped us in what's happening right now. The the average American Yeah, the average. Yeah yeah, it's not right now right now it's it's they're sucked into.

02:00:37.10

Max Shank

Somewhere else though.

02:00:55.80

mikebledsoe

What's happening. Well no way that they're they're they're considering what's happening today. What is happening today that matters.

02:01:11.20

Max Shank

Ironically, it's a portal to anywhere else than here and now that's what's funny because you're saying it's like they're looking what's happening now elsewhere but ironic you're right? But it's also kind of ironic because you're looking for anything else.

02:01:37.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but the yeah my point is that time the time consideration is is so short like what happened last week doesn't matter anymore. It only all that matters is today and people are so people are so yeah.

02:01:40.80

Max Shank

But here and now.

02:01:53.80

Max Shank

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay so that's insanity. That's insanity full on insanity.

02:02:15.48

mikebledsoe

People people are so engrossed they have so much data coming in about what matters today in the whole world that they think they should yeah they don't have boundaries but that person is totally ingrossed andgross in what's happening now doesn't have the opportunity to look back in history.

02:02:29.48

Max Shank

Because they can't draw boundaries.

02:02:54.90

mikebledsoe

To go back and say how was consciousness formed. How did we come to these considerations. What actually is science. There is.

02:03:07.94

Max Shank

Well think of the usefulness of code and the usefulness of 24 hour news it is antithetical so a book is code a person is the computer Basically that runs that code. And so if you want something to be organized. It should be organized by outcome or by subject or by material. But if you have it organized by what the fucking pricks are talking about on the Tv today. That's the worst organization possible and it's very difficult to get any kind of good information out of that and you're going to be basically putting out your own schizophrenic psychological fires because you're like oh my god didn't realize what was happening in Serbia and then the next week you're like oh my god I didn't realize what was happening in. South Africa and then you're like oh my god I didn't realize what was happening to the veterans and then pretty soon you're whipped up into this frenzy where you're upset about everything but you can't do anything about it and it makes you feel so disconnected because. What you're aware of your radius of awareness and your radius of control are so far apart and that goes back to why working with stuff with your hands even just moving stuff around like moving weights around with your hands that'll make a big difference. It'll connect you to reality.

02:05:55.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

02:06:07.56

Max Shank

Go climb a tree. Go take a walk Boom you're immediately connected into reality into moving your body locomotion or projectiles moving other stuff and if you are if you're just whipped into this frenzy because you know people are trying to program other people. It's all we do. In fact.

02:06:24.40

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

02:06:46.70

Max Shank

Pretty much as we try to program other people. Ah usually with the best of intentions too like I'm sure there are None of people who think school is like a good idea and and I just don't but that's fine. Yeah yeah, they they probably want people to like.

02:07:08.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, their heart's in the right place You think it's best for the kids. Well people also think that it's um, ah just they they think I think a lot of people they go Well I did it so it must be good. So other people should do it I mean that's.

02:07:21.12

Max Shank

Behave themselves and like get married and like kept.

02:07:41.16

Max Shank

Um, well and that's even a different thing like it. It's like hazing.

02:07:47.92

mikebledsoe

That's big in the military of like I'm looking at the training and I go this doesn't really make sense. We're not really optimizing for getting better at our job. They're like well this we we went through it and no I'm like all whatever.

02:08:14.64

Max Shank

Sometimes things are done a certain way because it really is the best way and sometimes things are done a certain way literally just because that's how they've been doing it and no one can imagine a different no one even tries to imagine a different way.

02:08:25.96

mikebledsoe

Sometimes.

02:08:54.30

Max Shank

You know and that's why you don't want to fight things Anyway, speaking of patterns when you fight something you immediately create a counterforce even if you punch the shit out of that thing upon that connection of your fist and that fucker's face. There's a counter force going right back into your fist and then more. Metaphorically speaking you're going to create a counter response to your active opposing Force. So That's why it's always better to obsolete than to fight if you have the option.

02:09:52.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah I was reading a book yesterday that was talking about that is the the the people who are censoring are fighting. They're really fighting decentralization but censorship creates the necessity for decentralization and. You know Twitter Facebook Instagram they're trying to fight misinformation but the harder that they tried to fight misinformation with censorship the more prolific decentralization becomes because people start getting they start leaving the platform to go.

02:11:07.18

Max Shank

It's natural. It's like cat and mouse. It's like it's natural cat and mouse evolution. The cat evolves longer claws. The mouse gets smaller and more clever. Ah same kind of idea right? You have hackers and then you got people who work in.

02:11:09.80

mikebledsoe

To go to something That's not a platform. Yeah.

02:11:42.86

Max Shank

Ah, software security which of course are also hackers. But they're basically like 1 upping each other all the time just the way that creatures have seemed to ah grow and evolve and fork out into these different sort of test branches almost.

02:12:13.96

mikebledsoe

Now. Yeah.

02:12:20.66

Max Shank

So it's better to obsolete and speaking of the patterns like we were talking about. Ah, it's hard to recognize which of the programs coming in are important and not important a lot of the time I think that can be a real challenge.

02:12:53.38

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, well that's a pattern too. The things that you're filtering what's important and not important so fast that it's it's built up over the years of life that you go.

02:12:57.58

Max Shank

Most everything is ah like not important that.

02:13:31.62

mikebledsoe

This is this is important. Not important people decide really quick and they miss opportunities really great opportunities all the time just pass right by them. There's there's this thing called the reticular activating system are familiar to ah Ras. Okay.

02:13:41.52

Max Shank

Oh.

02:14:02.20

Max Shank

No, but I'd like to be.

02:14:09.30

mikebledsoe

You probably are you just probably don't know by name and it's it's if I start if I go out and buy a red truck. What am I going to see on the road all the time a red truck. Yeah, we prime we primed the system.

02:14:26.64

Max Shank

Okay I do know what you're talking about.

02:14:42.64

mikebledsoe

For now seeing red trucks because red truck has become very important to me I just spent $50000 on a red truck and I love this thing and I have this emotional connection to it and so now I start seeing them everywhere so the same thing happens with ah.

02:15:04.80

Max Shank

Whoa.

02:15:22.16

mikebledsoe

People and their patterns is they they notice patterns and make things important only because that's always how it's been, but you can you can intentionally change the pattern of your mind through things like mantras or by by having a conversation with someone else who can create. Help create a possibility for you. You have a conversation you and I have a deep conversation about a topic and the next thing I know I'm meeting people who can help me with this opportunity. Maybe you and I have this business idea and all of a sudden people start coming through that can contribute to this business idea. And that's the that's the ah Ras and that's most people's ah Ras is really just running the same program all the time they're noticing the same things that no purple cows. Yeah, but if you can.

02:17:00.86

Max Shank

No purple cows. You're just seeing normal stuff.

02:17:14.55

mikebledsoe

Intentionally go in there and tinker with the pattern of how you think which is fairly easy then you can start seeing new opportunities.

02:17:31.86

Max Shank

You know what's wild is the only reason you can see anything at all is because of Pattern recognition your your eyes just giving you a very um surface level reflection of photons that have bounced back and each.

02:17:44.45

mikebledsoe

Now.

02:18:11.62

Max Shank

Color has a different ah frequency to it and you have different Organs rods and cones in your eye that decipher those and eventually it does create this image but the only reason that image means anything is because of Pattern Recognition. So if you um. Try to like if you kind of simplify it down if you see a wall of triangles and then one square in there, you're going to be like whoa. That's ah, that's a little weird. You're going to be like what's that square doing in this wall of triangles and vice versa and that's why as you get to be ah like to have more simple type of vision like a lizard. Ah, many Lizards at least they can't really see stuff unless it moves and that's why they say that the eye is attracted to movement and when you start getting into the neuroscience of Vision. It's It's a deep deep Rabbit hole. In understanding the patterns around you but it just shows you once again, what it's useful to show you so you can find the banana and not get eaten by a tiger or a hawk or something like that.

02:20:29.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well is where something where psychedelics get really interesting. Take a couple hits of acid and you start noticing what it what acid one of the things it does lsd it. It starts creating new connections in the brain. Usually the neural connections are going between the None shortest points between the None and that's one of the things that creates the pattern of attention. Yeah, and mushrooms do this lsd does this but it starts the.

02:21:16.80

Max Shank

Um, just like fungus and most things most things yeah water.

02:21:36.36

mikebledsoe

It starts connecting parts of the brain that have never been connected before and even there's this thing called I think it's Synestasia where you can see colors or or taste sounds yeah see music and um, but yeah, yeah, bet.

02:21:51.84

Max Shank

He see music. Yeah sounds cool I've never experienced that myself I would love to see music I mean I've seen like us.

02:22:14.40

mikebledsoe

And you've never seen music.

02:22:27.14

Max Shank

Ah I've seen us use pretty cool tools to turn sound waves into vibrating Sand or lasers or sine waves or.

02:22:35.26

mikebledsoe

Um, there was a day I had I was on 2 hits ass and maybe 4 somewhere in there and um, sometimes I heard to tell what you took I was listening to music and I was looking at this picture.

02:23:06.10

Max Shank

It's another reason why you're not the research department hard to know if it was 2 or 4 Okay, so don't go to Mike for the recipe. Okay I'm not sure if it's one tablespoon of baking soda or one cup I don't know.

02:23:22.94

mikebledsoe

Ah. Whatever same thing. Ah so but I'm looking I'm looking at a painting and with each beat of the meat of the music. The colors are changing and the music and the painting are interacting and the painting's actually not that colorful. There was maybe.

02:23:41.60

Max Shank

It's not the same thing.

02:24:09.88

mikebledsoe

3 or 4 colors total but colors were changing and then there were images that were they were appearing that I didn't notice before but you could also go hiking out nature and then it disrupts the patterns of what you already see because people walk they can go walk a trail or they go walk around their neighborhood and they don't.

02:24:21.74

Max Shank

That's cool.

02:24:49.62

mikebledsoe

They kind of notice the same things they don't notice the same things I mean people miss stuff all time if if you you know you've probably been hiking with people and you're noticing. It's like oh or they notice something you don't but if you're on something like Lsd you're gonna notice. So many other things and that's why a lot of times people really don't move much. They don't they're not going to travel a long distance when on that that medicine and they're going to because they're so busy noticing the palm of their hand and looking at oh my gosh look at all these lines and.

02:25:30.82

Max Shank

Let he.

02:26:01.58

mikebledsoe

And your ability to see is just is is so enhanced but that's a really good example of something that disrupts a pattern to where you really can't go about your daily life like if I if I'm on asset and you ask me to go to a cashier and make a purchase. It's It's not going to happen I Just can't do the.

02:26:35.44

Max Shank

Hey.

02:26:39.98

mikebledsoe

Those patterns that are so ingrained that I whip my card out normally don't even think about it. But if I have to buy a sandwich at a festival. Um I'm having a problem.

02:26:46.32

Max Shank

My. Yeah I mean when you overdo it on any kind of substance Beyond like capabilities. Ah I think ah.

02:27:13.20

mikebledsoe

That's true. Well the difference between that like alcohol like you're just you're like you're so depressed that you can't make sense of the world and with Lsd Everything is so loud that you can't filter it all.

02:27:33.56

Max Shank

I Just remember when I was in college I was really ah hammered I Drank like a small bottle of tequila on my own and I got into an argument with a ticketing machine on the trolley and we couldn't resolve our differences So I ultimately had to jump. Over the turnsile. But I mean I I literally couldn't figured out how to pay $2 at ah at a screen but thats because I was inebriated Beyond belief but ah you mentioned something cool which is you notice more and what? what is a pattern.

02:28:15.00

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

02:28:47.52

Max Shank

Or what is a frequency without a sensor to pick it up so people have different levels of sensitivity to different things like when you're when you're learning how to emf is one when you're learning how to do massage right? I mean.

02:29:00.20

mikebledsoe

Um, emf is 1 Yeah.

02:29:27.32

Max Shank

I'm guessing a lot of people have experienced a good massage and a bad one and it's really obvious when the person can't feel the structures of your body with precision. You know it's very obvious and so.

02:29:57.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

02:30:06.46

Max Shank

There are different levels of sensitivity to like let's say your fingertips like think about Braille. For example, if you if you dragged your hand across a bunch of bumps on a page you would have no idea what they mean, but someone who had finally tuned their sensory skills. Would pick that up right away and I think that's what the the substances some substances can do is they can open up your sensor. They basically turn you into this big radar dish that is capable of picking up way more signal than usual and I think why it's so.

02:31:04.68

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

02:31:21.40

Max Shank

Ah, overwhelming to go walk around is because instead of taking in. Let's say five gigabytes of visual information. Every step now you're taking five thousand gigabytes or five terabytes of visual visual ah input every step and.

02:31:51.12

mikebledsoe

It's a lot. It's a big difference.

02:31:59.88

Max Shank

You know if you don't have the right equipment. You can't sense those things. That's why we see ah rgb Basically and that's why the little tiny lights on your screen that you may be watching right now are red green and blue because that's.

02:32:12.78

mikebledsoe

Me.

02:32:37.58

Max Shank

How we see things and other animals have different ah structure in their eyes like sadly for asian deer they can't really see orange so that makes a tiger that is orange with black stripes nearly impossible to see in that environment. But. If you put that tiger in a different environment like I don't know Alaska or some shit where it's or or somewhere where it's white. It's not going to camouflage very well at all. So it's all about that specific relationship between the deer that can't see orange the environment.

02:33:32.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

02:33:54.64

Max Shank

And the color of the cat and the pattern on the Cat. So. It's is very fascinating. Um, how it's always that relationship. It's really important to think of it in terms of what relationship we would love for some things to be totally universal, but apart from the fact that. You know everything is jiggling around all the time there aren't too many ah fundamental truths that are always the Case. It's usually ah contextual.

02:34:48.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah I want I want to bring this to I want to get some ah practical things here. So um, other than taking lsd talking about breaking out of old patterns and into new patterns. Ah, one of the exercises I actually got from Dan Sullivan and it's the None x thinking I think it's what he calls it ten x and it's all right? You're creating an offer. You're you're creating say a coaching package.

02:35:40.34

Max Shank

Hit.

02:35:58.26

Max Shank

The.

02:36:01.82

mikebledsoe

And you know so many coaches have a hard time imagining being able to charge more than 2 or $300 a month or $400 a month and so and so it's good to sit down. Go well what if you were to sell something for 2 or $3000 a month. Let's add a 0 here.

02:36:17.92

Max Shank

Yeah.

02:36:39.58

mikebledsoe

What would that offer look like what would make it that valuable and all of a sudden all these ideas come flooding in was a well shit man if I had that kind of if it was of that much value and I had some money to play around with I would actually be able to vote more of my time energy into this person or I would be able to partner with this other. Other thing and maybe I'm doing blood work now on top of what I'm already offering so the the None x thinking saying? Okay, what would you if we were to take 10 ah 10 times what you're currently charging what would that look like and on the flip side. There's also what would you offer. What could you offer for none of what you're charging. What would be $20 or $30 and now you start having all sorts of different ideas about and that's one way of breaking out of a pattern and it doesn't just apply to money it can apply to.

02:38:00.56

Max Shank

Totally yeah.

02:38:31.20

mikebledsoe

A lot of other things that the 10 x thinking or the None thinking if you had 10 times more time in the day you know what would you do or I really like having saying yeah you have yet 10 say there's 240 hours

02:38:43.28

Max Shank

Um, that's a good question 10 times more time in the day.

02:39:08.40

mikebledsoe

And the day that'd be That's more than a week. What if you what if you had a whole week to accomplish what and other people were just living a day. What would that look like.

02:39:12.58

Max Shank

I think I would. So if I if I knew I was going to live None times longer than them.

02:39:33.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that's ah, that's a good way of thinking about it. Let's just let's just imagine you're going to live to a thousand and everyone else is going to live to a None

02:39:40.20

Max Shank

Well so age isn't about the number of days you've been Alive. It's about the knowledge that you've accumulated in the experiences you've had right. Being alive lots of days doesn't mean shit if you spent your whole day just like living inside Watching. Ah.

02:40:15.94

mikebledsoe

Well let's just but we're measuring in days. That's the measure all right? Let's say in a month and um and in a month you lived um, you got as much done in six months and everyone else got.

02:40:26.24

Max Shank

What do you? So what's the question.

02:40:39.78

Max Shank

I mean.

02:40:55.42

mikebledsoe

Done in one month let's just look at it like that I think you do too which but most people don't like most people would what? what? what? What comes up leverage is 1 thing but also when we started thinking about time in this way I think.

02:40:56.90

Max Shank

I mean I already do that.

02:41:10.50

Max Shank

Right? It's about it's about leverage. It's all about leverage.

02:41:32.28

mikebledsoe

It's a really great way to get away from comparison because if I if I stop I can't compare myself to someone else if we're talking about a 10 X difference in time if I'm experiencing a 10 X difference in time than other people which I think you're one of those people that experience time different. Than other people. Most people are cramming their schedule with back to back to back to back and have no time to breathe and you're someone who is ah has a lot more leisure space. Yeah.

02:42:31.78

Max Shank

It's hard to get me on a calendar like this show actually is wild because I've never understood the fact that we've been so consistent I mean folks like it. It really just goes to show how much I enjoy the experience because I and everybody else. We do exactly what we want all the time. Ah, we do whatever we think is going to give us the best result this is a lot of fun. So I do it if it's not fun I don't really do it and the idea of cramming a day full of appointments sounds awful but having the ability. To connect with who I like sounds sounds amazing.

02:43:48.76

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so we have that that. Ah, if if you could say hey I'm going to live 1000 years how would you behave? How would you? How would you live each day. It would probably you would probably do things differently and if I were to say that you experience.

02:44:16.40

Max Shank

I would.

02:44:26.86

mikebledsoe

You only have let's say 3 hours where everyone else has 24 hours in a day. How do you say you only have three what we call it three waking hours if you only had three waking hours well everyone else had a full you know 16 hour waking day and you only had 3 what would.

02:44:33.30

Max Shank

Um, yeah, right. Um, yeah now.

02:45:06.56

mikebledsoe

What would you do with your time and that's a really great way to find priorities because if you only have most people they look at their day and go I've got a 16 hour waking period of time and I don't have enough time in the day that's a problem.

02:45:32.84

Max Shank

Well I mean totally what you're talking about is the crux of success or power Even um, basically it's pressure or force per area or per. Distance right? Like how much effort or how much what can you? invest energy wise to get the largest return at the end. Basically ah if you could spend yeah and what you're doing basically is.

02:46:29.10

mikebledsoe

No.

02:46:45.48

Max Shank

2 orders of magnitude mathematical thinking up and down so you have a None x swing in your ideas about that topic. So you're creating an upper and lower bound that are certainly further away than most people would naturally think which is why that ah framework or that.

02:46:48.10

mikebledsoe

Empty.

02:47:22.38

Max Shank

Ah, pattern to filter this idea through is so useful because it gets you to think how could I divide the membership by None how could I multiply it by 10 how could I get the cost. How could I increase the cost 10 x you know all that stuff. But it's. It comes back down to leverage ultimately because it's how much can you ah get out energy-wise for how much you put in and if we're using time as the limiting limiting factor because ah for us energy and time are. So closely linked. They might as well be the same thing for most for for the sake of most things but it ah it's still important to see like what gives you the biggest return on one hour of your time and just thinking about um.

02:48:37.24

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

02:49:12.58

Max Shank

What to do in terms of multiply by 10 divide by 10 very cool but it is ultimately about leverage. It is about how much you can get out for each one that you put in per unit of investment.

02:49:36.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah I said we wrap this up. My computer is giving me weird signals and let's bring it home.

02:49:46.88

Max Shank

Bring it bring it home bring it home I mean that's a see this is what I was worried about I feel like there's a lot left to discuss I feel like we didn't get into the different vibrations of very dense and. Porous materials and I we hardly got into computer programming at all but look I'm going to I'm going to keep it simple from my end all right when it comes to human beings today. Everything we have has been built off of the accumulation of these patterns. These patterns are our Dna. These patterns are the books that have sustained or the stories that have sustained the human programming. That has sustained and the programming or the code or the recipes for how to make really insanely awesome tools and I would say those are like the 3 practical things for human beings and then. I think it's fun to talk about crystals and metal and manufacturing and all that stuff but without the code without the instructions without the chain of events without knowing how to put all those links together in the proper sequence. You can't get a car. You can't get a cellphone. You can't even get a fucking good loaf of bread. The recipe's got to be done in order. The only way you'll know is with the pattern the code.

02:53:07.20

mikebledsoe

Excellent, yeah and look at your own Life. You're living out a pattern from day to day and if something's not going the way that you want it to go analyze that Pattern. That's what I call Dysfunction. Something's not going the way you want to go. There's a dysfunction in your pattern somewhere. And it's a fract.. It's fractal Nature. You may need to look really far back and mostly the patterns of behavior and the ways of thinking and your emotional patterns all stem from your childhood. So if you want to be able to to really look at that you might have to get into a really reflective space and maybe. Come to some hard truths and that may give you the opportunity to make new decisions moving forward and create New Patterns. Thanks for joining me max where where people finding you. What are we doing http://maxshaink.com.

02:54:52.64

Max Shank

http://maxshank.com at maxank. Ah, if you guys have any questions for the show or about the show I will I'll I'll answer him I think that would be fun like to connect with the audience a little bit more. So thanks for tuning in. Thank you Mike.

02:55:15.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, and I got a summit coming up this weekend for coaches out there. It starts on Thursday we're gonna go four to five hours a day and Thursday through Saturday and then if you're an academy member you you obviously get up extra access vi ipd on sunday. Ah, if you want to get it in on that it's a pay what you want go to shop dot http://thestrongcoach.com. Thanks y'all. That's a great deal.

02:56:02.74

Max Shank

That's a good deal.

Jun 16, 2022
A life fully lived & experienced… what does that even mean?

In this week's episode, Aaron Hinde & I paint a picture of what it looks like

From bankruptcy to the “top of the mountain”, to losing almost everything in fires, family dynamics, and creating even more beauty from the ashes

Listen in. You’ll love this one
Jun 13, 2022

00:01.12

Max Shank

Here's the deal. So there's a perfect, no intro this we're just here now you're here we're here I'm here you're here. We're all here the official show but this is for just the like inner club. But anyway I was going to say a case study.

00:02.60

mikebledsoe

It's the first one.

00:16.94

mikebledsoe

We'll do the intro when we start the official show.

00:35.54

Max Shank

On viewer engagement. One of the best I've ever seen was this Youtube channel called Ants Canada okay I think it's like a filipino dude. It's some asian guy who has this Youtube channel called Ants Canada and every fucking film.

00:51.20

mikebledsoe

Ahead.

01:14.58

Max Shank

Is about ants and ant colonies and he sells ant gear but basically he has this membership that he calls the Ac senate right? and so he basically has people pay to have a say in all kinds of weird stuff like. What are we gonna do with this new colony. What are we gonna name this thing and he gives them like preferential voting rights for what happens in the community. It's so crazy. How ah how much this guy connects with the audience. And's so it's a weird stuff ah because ants and ant colonies are pretty weird but talk about a case study for how to engage with an audience. This guy is dialed ants Canada case study ants st ants canada is a case study for.

02:57.28

mikebledsoe

Aunts Canada alright.

03:07.76

Max Shank

How to engage with your audience on multiple levels. He sells physical products. He has basically ah a membership where you get called? yeah like ants like the bug the insect. Yeah exactly it's incredible.

03:28.28

mikebledsoe

It's a and TS like like the like the insect to podcast.

03:46.40

Max Shank

No, it's video series Youtube thing. It's not a podcast but he sells ant colony plastic molded parts to people. He also has this this. It's the weirdest thing I've ever heard of like you would wonder like why is it that people would pay to get to make decisions but he has positioned the joy of naming a new ant colony or deciding what to do. In this like new video series as good as Tom Sawyer ah portraying the benefits of whitewashing offense. He's like wouldn't you guys like to make this decision for him like they are driving his content and paying to drive the content. It's.

05:30.86

mikebledsoe

It's really I mean it's as Facebook Twitter you know create the platform. Yeah create the platform and just let them let the let the people be the product was that the people will create the product. They'll be the product.

05:32.38

Max Shank

It's unbelievable Youtube oh my god what an acquisition.

06:02.50

mikebledsoe

And then you just sell advertising.

06:08.32

Max Shank

It's like ah what they did with was it Hong Kong or Singapore can't I remember 1 of them. It's like the guy's name was Lee coshing you ever hear that guy. Ah.

06:30.90

mikebledsoe

E.

06:41.24

Max Shank

Rikash xing Hong Kong business magnate none richest guy in the world. His whole thing. He just like built up. Ah let's see hold on. I don't know his whole thing was about owning the port that that was the that was the ah whole story. Basically.

07:24.20

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, it's kind of like the the gold rush. The people who made the most money were the ones selling the shovels I think that's where maybe Levi's came from the blue jeans is yeah I'm not 100% sure on this but I I think that ah that.

07:38.16

Max Shank

Right. Um, leave eyes.

08:03.32

mikebledsoe

That denim company or maybe another denim company Levi's make sense though. Ah made their fortune and their start by selling denim clothing to miners. It's really durable.

08:25.20

Max Shank

Like little kids or like go look for gold in the mines Now they probably send sell more to little kids I don't know I don't wear a lot of jeans. Do you wear a lot of jeans.

08:36.64

mikebledsoe

Look go look for golden mines. Yeah, yeah, off to I'd like to not anymore not with the not with the clothes that come out today I just discovered. Um.

09:02.16

Max Shank

I Hardly wear jeans. It's not that comfortable.

09:15.54

mikebledsoe

Viori made a new pant that is looks really clean, but dude great for travel because I can wear them in a hundred degree weather I might as well be wearing shorts they breathe So well, they look nice and you know I.

09:24.24

Max Shank

Ah. Are yeah.

09:51.22

mikebledsoe

I Don't even like to wear shorts I don't like to wear casual shorts I Either want to wear pants or athletic shorts and it might be something it might be like spillover from the the military because that's pretty much how it works there. But I think like casual shorts look silly on men. Ah.

10:01.80

Max Shank

A.

10:17.60

Max Shank

Right? right. Um, like what? what do you mean?? casual shorts like cargo pants.

10:31.28

mikebledsoe

That's just like you know like yeah like like cargo shorts or just like the shorts that are pants that are cut off. You know it's It's like those are kind of silly. It's like when I just wear athletic shorts I'm like an athletic shorts and fanny pack or I'm going to be wearing.

10:49.96

Max Shank

Ah, you know what.

11:07.94

mikebledsoe

You know some slacks.

11:10.94

Max Shank

You know what? I'm really into is like the like the ah Rei type of hiking pant and I and I want to get some that turn into shorts but I was thinking about it and I don't know if I would rather have them unzip all the way.

11:22.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

11:47.58

Max Shank

Or if I would want to have them roll up and clip on I haven't seen many like that there are some out there because I have I have a couple pairs totally but the utility I mean.

11:51.50

mikebledsoe

I think roll up and clip on makes more sense there. There are some out there I've seen some yeah the zip out I try to avoid moving parts as I try to. Until the zipper breaks plus rolling up just looks way cooler. That's that's the real Rob there they look cooler than having a zipper hanging off your shorts.

12:26.52

Max Shank

Is fantastic. So maybe maybe the roll up till the zipper breaks. Yeah, that's a good point. Those are my my favorite pants I got a couple at Costco they're just.

12:57.00

Max Shank

Yeah, that's a great point I went on a bike ride yesterday actually mountain bike ride for the None time in like years. Ah, all because I was learning about air compressors and how our compressors work.

13:03.40

mikebledsoe

I mean.

13:34.56

Max Shank

And so I was getting out my air compressor and I was like how how does my air compressor work. How powerful is this thing Really what kind of stuff because I bought one when I got my house because I was like every house needs an air compressor because I was ah like I didn't really know? Yeah, like yeah.

13:59.32

mikebledsoe

Oh like a proper air compressor one with a big tank. Yeah, not the kind that you carry around in your car. Yeah something you could use with tools and whatnot. Yeah yeah, I'm into those those.

14:12.76

Max Shank

Like a little pancake. No no I wouldn't It's a little too big and heavy for that. Yeah, like a nail gun staple gun that kind of thing and so those things are savage.

14:36.38

mikebledsoe

I've got some air compressor tools. If if you're gonna work on a car I don't know how I don't know how I worked on a car before I have that which I don't really work on cars much anymore. But I remember that being a major upgrade.

15:04.26

Max Shank

Yeah I think knowing how to put stuff together like that is such an underrated ability because I notice as I am problem solving in the garage with my hands. It makes me it makes it easier for me to visualize how to put other things together. Like Ideas. You know this attaches to this and you have to divide this. You have to sharpen this. You have to round off these edges. There are all these problem solving things that go on with how to put stuff together and it makes me even think of like mathematics how that factors in to.

15:43.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, there's um.

16:20.62

Max Shank

Putting stuff together and how much how much you just learn through the process of doing it. You know it's good to know arithmetic. But I have it.

16:32.70

mikebledsoe

There's a book. There's a book called the metaphors we live by and have you read it did you did you buy it on my recommendation or did you just happen to get it simultaneously. Wow Yeah I I hardly run in anyone who's read it. Ah.

16:52.62

Max Shank

I think I had I think I bought it before? Yeah yeah, ah yes, and like most books I've read I maybe retained like 10%

17:08.18

mikebledsoe

But have you read it.

17:22.74

mikebledsoe

Got it? Yeah so metaphors we live by really highlights how the mind works and that everything in the mind is a metaphor to something an objective reality and so ah so kind of like the.

17:53.96

Max Shank

Right now.

18:00.98

mikebledsoe

Projectile and project metaphor We talked about before yeah eyeballs. Um.

18:06.94

Max Shank

Eyeballs eyeballs are super reliable but they're not showing you objective reality because there are a lot of layers.

18:19.88

mikebledsoe

Well, they are but you're not filtering it. But anyways.

18:32.44

Max Shank

Well your eyes don't show you objective reality your eyes show you? How light is reacting with matter but there's a lot going on that is beyond. The visible spectrum is what I'm saying.

18:44.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

18:55.10

mikebledsoe

Totally. But so one of the things it talks about is ah like ontological metaphors and so one is how we refer to the mind. So the mind is a machine so there's all these examples of.

19:26.90

Max Shank

A.

19:33.86

mikebledsoe

Ah, that in in the English language the mind is a machine and it's also brittle and so when you look at the English language as a whole the majority of the references to the mind is that it's a mechanical thing that's brittle.

19:48.36

Max Shank

A.

20:09.12

Max Shank

Right? It sounds dangerous. Sounds like a dangerous belief to me like that that makes me a little queasy even based on how I see the mind or how I would try to define the mind or even just the brain.

20:13.48

mikebledsoe

And so ah, people believe that it yes and.

20:44.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but but you know and and it's common language is as people are talking are unconsciously talking about it in this way. So they're further embedding this thing is true and so they they they don't know how to treat their own own mind or organize it because they actually have an incorrect.

20:48.30

Max Shank

Like the organ because I think that's different.

21:00.58

Max Shank

Um, right right.

21:23.92

mikebledsoe

Or an inaccurate view of what it actually is ah so one of the things the book talks about is how we use objects to ah create Concepts so anything that's conceptual. We're having we need to.

21:28.26

Max Shank

He no.

21:48.00

Max Shank

E.

21:58.28

mikebledsoe

Associate it with an object out in physical space and so ah, one of the things that I've noticed I'm in total agreement with you I've been I've been meditating on this because I read that book about a year ago and I noticed that as I've been doing more physical tasks and building things that my ability to problem solving in the conceptual realm has gone way up and anytime I'm having a conceptual problem I go work on something that's on an object I go build something or fix something. Ah.

22:45.12

Max Shank

A.

23:07.18

mikebledsoe

All of a sudden the world makes more sense and I think part of that is if we spend too much time in the conceptual Realm without being in the objective Realm Then we end up. Ah, we end up way out in this place that doesn't make any sense. And and we become ungrounded and I know you and ah I are alike in this way because we love the mental Masturbation. We'll go off into some conceptual Realm and start changing. You know, ah physicists do this. They'll change one lot of physics to solve a problem and then they try to. Bring it back and so and then reapply to law and and it's one way of doing experimentation but the problem is a lot of people start doing that and they never come back to Earth and so I think having that balance between doing things and objective reality and conceptual. And conceptualizing things is really really beneficial.

25:12.48

Max Shank

Oh Yeah I was laughing so many times there because it makes me think about how enslaved people are by thinking certain things matter and the word matter is funny right? Because. Stuff matters. Ah you know water is matter air is matter and these ideas that we have. It's like we think too many things matter that aren't matter at all.

25:51.44

mikebledsoe

Right.

26:02.36

mikebledsoe

This bottle is matter.

26:26.50

mikebledsoe

Ah, well does just to make the statement that something is matter that isn't matter pulls you out of reality. You've become ungrounded.

26:28.36

Max Shank

And you are just more and more divorced from reality because hold right? of course look um these words and ideas are. Very useful and it's never the complete truth because they're just symbols right? but they are concrete enough to give us the plans to make a plane or a computer I mean that's all language derived and that's how the matter is directed. So. The ideas are like the pattern like Pattern Pattern father and the stuff the substance the matter the mother ma her modern is ah guided by our ideas. But if you don't have what's that yeah.

28:09.34

mikebledsoe

Oh man I'm loving these metaphors that that makes so much sense because that the father is is the structure of like the pattern structure and the matter is the stuff.

28:23.80

Max Shank

Yeah, if you don't yeah if you don't have the father's the pattern the Pattern the pattern right? mother is the matter. Yeah, the stuff and the ah the energy.

28:47.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

28:55.84

Max Shank

It's like kinetic and potential I mean there are a lot of ways that you can ah yin and young and dichotomize these ideas right? But ah my point is that we are made of matter you eat an orange. You actually are that orange is becoming you. And your body is able to break it down into its basic components and then that stuff becomes you and the stuff that doesn't become you becomes shit or sweat or something like I mean it's crazy, but it literally becomes you so this idea. That when you um, get your hands involved. You get so much of your brain involved and then it's rooted in a reality that is very easy to understand. It's very It's all about, um. God I guess it's all about power really when you get down to it because we're talking about ah force times distance ah or work over time is power ah, power is work over time work is force times distance. And that's that's a reality that's easy to track momentum things like that all this dark matter. Ah like black hole shit is mental masturbation. It's fine. It's mental masturbation though. But once you start getting in there and you can do macrame you can. Ah, make something out of wood. You could carve something out of Clay. Ah but building that connection between your creativity and your curiosity and this physical reality is critical and if you apply that same thing to fitness. Fitness is essentially ah how well you're able to deliver force how well you're able to deliver force into your right leg so you can run and take a step with your right leg and how well you can absorb.

32:56.36

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

33:21.00

Max Shank

And return Force I Mean That's why my latest training program is called elasticity because it's all about absorbing and returning forests without ah permanent deformation and that's that's like as close as you can get to the best longevity practice. And we all have our pet loves for ah what makes fitness good or what makes you live a long time. But if you ah you know have good friendships and family kind of ties if you have fun and if you. Ah, fast. So You just don't eat too Much. You'll live a really long time even if you're just like medium elastic Fitness you just need ah a basic level of how to interact with your environment with these alternating forces.

34:48.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

35:06.26

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

35:11.64

Max Shank

Ah, so it just it's very centering even climbing a tree go climb a tree and then you are like intimately associated with the forces required to lift you up off the ground and once you're in those situations you have room to explore and then this. Idea of like what matters or like what you should be fucking prideful of like I God I was just thinking the other day you know almost every holiday is about victimization that we have. Like almost every holiday is like it fucking kills me because we have like okay we have like memorial day that's ah, it's for the people who were killed like we are appreciating those poor victims but that's what they were. They were victims and of course we don't talk about like why they were victimized.

36:44.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

37:07.34

Max Shank

Because people don't really like that when you go in? Oh dude I'll be fucking kicked right out of the cemetery if I say these guys died for nothing but the fucking ambitions of old politicians with nothing better to do than tell other people how to live their fucking lives.

37:07.66

mikebledsoe

Of you start getting into that but people will get offended.

37:46.40

Max Shank

And so people don't like people don't like that no way because you know to generalize Bobby Joe went into that Vietnam and he did his country proud and that is a way better belief to take with you than he died for nothing.

37:46.40

mikebledsoe

Um, people don't like that. No no.

38:08.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you know what? um.

38:25.90

Max Shank

But some fuck fuckwit politicians who just think they know best right.

38:32.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah I um, my girlfriend and I are out. We do things around town and Texas is a very patriotic place and I which means I get a lot of discounts because I'm a veteran and.

39:04.54

Max Shank

The.

39:09.66

mikebledsoe

I get a 5% discount on my guns at Cabels. Ah, it's i't I can't get a discount on guns anywhere. Ah yeah, but I get in free at play at parks and stuff and in Texas where other people are paying to get in anyways. So I get.

39:20.44

Max Shank

That's pretty cool and.

39:46.30

mikebledsoe

Hit with thank you for your service pretty frequently and and Ashley my fiancee she she knows how I feel about every you know about a lot of things she goes. What's it like what's it like to hear that because you know I always just say oh yeah, you're welcome. You know that's what my.

39:49.18

Max Shank

If.

40:05.30

Max Shank

Um, ah a threat.

40:24.30

mikebledsoe

My my pleasure you know, whatever it is that comes to mind at the time you know whatever I'm just trying to make them feel good about them giving me a compliment or whatever. But and when I did join I did think I was going in to be of service to humanity that was.

40:29.28

Max Shank

Ah, thank you.

40:42.14

Max Shank

Right.

41:01.94

mikebledsoe

Impression I was under but the yeah where I stand now is like yeah I don't feel proud I don't feel ashamed I kind of just I'm very neutral about it. It's I've dealt with the fact that I got duped and like.

41:19.78

Max Shank

He no.

41:36.18

Max Shank

I Guess you could call that neutral. Ah.

41:41.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah I mean I got well I got duped and I've accepted it I'm at peace with it right? like we've all been duped. We've all been duped and you know what I'm I'm lucky because you know I did get some really great experiences out of that that made me a very resilient guy and.

41:52.52

Max Shank

Ah, ah, okay, right.

42:08.80

Max Shank

Yeah, and.

42:17.24

mikebledsoe

You know there's There's a lot of benefits I got from it most mostly the discounts but the.

42:28.64

Max Shank

I Just imagine if someone said take you for your service and he said yeah I was probably a mistake. Or or just like I wouldn't recommend I wouldn't recommend it.

42:46.66

mikebledsoe

Ah, you know I'm I'm trying that out. Well, it's bad enough that people are going to hear this on the show. Ah, but yeah, it's like ah that's all we know. But yeah, it's um.

43:08.84

Max Shank

Um, hey look it's not for everybody. It wasn't for you. That's all we know it wasn't for you. It wasn't for you.

43:24.40

mikebledsoe

But what you're saying is accurate because the the way Well the well we can go back to the holidays. But when I look at when I look at um, the government and military service and all these things is when I started looking at the government is just there's a book called the Sovereign individual and in that book they talk about how.

43:28.98

Max Shank

These holidays.

44:04.14

mikebledsoe

Formation of government and how they were there to protect farmers from people who would come and take their shit and if they didn't hire them. They were gonna take their shit and if they did hire them. They're gonna take a percentage of their shit and so ah. Basically when you.

44:42.80

Max Shank

Basically you got guys with the swords and you got guys with the hose right till in the field then you got a sword guy and you got a hoe guy I'm more of a hoe guy I think.

44:46.40

mikebledsoe

Exactly and some and yeah, some so like in the beginning it was just like who who is ah who's got the most brute force and then over time they accumulated armor horses like a ah Knight in armor. Can take out like 20 people on foot. You know like the this is yeah this is this is it and so true that yeah, but but here's the thing is before the and but.

45:30.20

Max Shank

This is grounded in reality too unless one of those guys on foot happens to have a really nice bow and arrow and then that guy's fucked speaking of projectiles.

46:00.98

mikebledsoe

Before the invention of the rifle to become skilled to be able to afford the time and the money to be a great soldier. It was it was rare and so only a select few had been in the position to do so and so.

46:36.56

Max Shank

Even ants do this. They divide up the labor into soldiers and the workers back to the ants again.

46:39.00

mikebledsoe

You it. Yeah, yeah, and so the so the whole formation of the idea government has been basically the same it's it's identical to the Mob. You know you're.

47:13.84

Max Shank

It's identical to any group. It's about specialization Ideally right.

47:17.42

mikebledsoe

I Know if any group but like but any group that uses the threat of Force violence and coercion. So not every organization does that and so.

47:40.12

Max Shank

Um, is there any group where everybody does the same thing I think it's always about specialization.

47:48.78

mikebledsoe

It is about specialization but what I'm saying is what makes these organizations special is that they ah they rule by violence and a threat of violence coercion. These things that that's how they get people to comply.

48:25.26

Max Shank

Um, without nonviolently with like words instead of Swords basically.

48:27.50

mikebledsoe

With their rules. Well they use words. But if you disobey those words you will then meet you know.

48:46.80

Max Shank

Well, that's leverage right? That's that's really, um, how control works because if you if you ah if you don't follow the words and they just have to sword everybody to death. It's.. It's like not very good for anybody like now all the farmers are now all the farmers are.. It's kind of like a strike.. Basically I mean all these all these parallels within the symbolism of language I I have this idea that words have evolved basically the same as anything else.

49:25.76

mikebledsoe

It's not good for anybody. Yeah, so they got to use the there's ah.

50:01.92

Max Shank

In Nature longer sharper Claws Stronger Armor Camouflage Decoy Venom you know people fucking hurt each other with words all the time and only sometimes do they hurt.

50:25.80

mikebledsoe

And.

50:36.14

Max Shank

Ah, people with actual like sticks or weapons or something like that and sometimes they turn them on themselves right? We we fucking think Shitty things about ourselves we put ourselves through these I mean ah I guess I'm a fitness guy so we put ourselves through these like ball bursting workouts.

50:37.36

mikebledsoe

Yeah, they've gotten so good at can most of the time.

51:13.82

Max Shank

That are only harming us because we're just like so desperate. Um for some pie in the sky vision that we have I mean it's crazy how much language causes harm and self-harm. But anyway my point is like it's too inefficient. To go fucking hit everybody with the sword. It's way more efficient to just threaten the sword.

51:54.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the the the evolution has been that we use these words and so it was the words were simple and the sword was strong and then over time while the Swords gotten stronger. But the the words have become. People have gotten very clever lawyers are some of the most clever people on the planet ah politicians are basically they're just Lawyers. So These people are creating these words. Yeah, they create these words and you know, um, there are certain people.

52:40.40

Max Shank

Oh yeah.

52:52.18

Max Shank

Um, the word Warriors the word warriors.

53:10.96

mikebledsoe

Who are there's a very small population of people who are pretty much I think you and I fall in this category kind of like yeah you know those are just words and you want me to do this but I'm not going to and then you have the majority of the population that are like you're going to defy those words and.

53:44.18

Max Shank

Right.

53:46.84

mikebledsoe

And they completely freak out and they don't know what to do? They think that you're a bad person because you're ignoring these words. Um that somebody else put together and in order to try to control you so.

54:07.22

Max Shank

Well because otherwise like you are ruining their paradigm. You're destroying their sense of reality because they're like well I can't do that and I'm like actually there there are just consequences to everything you do you know that.

54:18.14

mikebledsoe

Totally destroying it.

54:35.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you can do anything you want. You can do a lot of things.

54:42.84

Max Shank

That's it you could do whatever there are consequences like if you tie a noose around your neck whack off in the closet. There's a much higher chance that you will die from hanging. But there's also a decent chance. You'll have an orgasm that's like None or so of the usual 1

55:20.40

mikebledsoe

There's otherwise to do that You hit me up on my private blog on on how to do that without choking yourself. But anyways.

55:22.40

Max Shank

So.

55:32.68

Max Shank

Fellas you hear that Mike is offering orgasm boosters free orgasm boosters. What kind of percentage can you offer increase 50% increase a 3 hold on.

55:40.64

mikebledsoe

Free orgasm boosters at least 50% now now I would say out. No no like 300 I mean yeah and yeah, with with just common common things you can pick up at the store.

56:07.68

Max Shank

Ah, 300% increase

56:19.18

Max Shank

Like cocaine. Ah.

56:19.76

mikebledsoe

Nothing you don't have to go see a drug dealer. But if you no, no, no like like over the counter things. But then um, yeah, over the counter and then um, you know if you want to get into the other I can guarantee like a None x but you know that's going to require some hard to get ahold of.

56:30.20

Max Shank

Over the counter.

56:55.60

Max Shank

Honestly I think ah I think I think this would be something that you you could probably do a one pager on this for our premium Inner Circle club.

56:57.88

mikebledsoe

Substances.

57:20.56

mikebledsoe

I Feel like this whole episode's going to be an inner Circle Club show. Ah you know this is the commercial This is this is actually it. This is this one. We're giving away for free. This is the one you get for free from now on the pre ship. This.

57:23.38

Max Shank

Like I would be interested in like a little that's all it is This is just for the this is this is it. We're gonna air this and and to be fair, we might be Fucked. We might be fucked because this might get us. Ah. Extradited or what's the excommunicated because of all the stuff we've said.

58:01.30

mikebledsoe

Well this is why I want everyone to go and get a ah podcasting 2.0 app on your phone instead of Spotify because Spotify itunes. They could just take us off anytime they want because some sjw employee gets pissed off.

58:24.12

Max Shank

Oh my God can you imagine? Holy God I Think that's I think the pendulum is swinging back I think people are craving uncensored Oh I Love it.

58:36.96

mikebledsoe

So ah. I think so I think so but not but not the employees of Apple and Spotify. They're gonna be the last ones you know and Twitter but I it will shake out it but we need. But.

59:00.98

Max Shank

Yeah, we'll we'll see how it all shakes out I mean ah Seasons change Seasons change.

59:19.58

mikebledsoe

Decentralization is what will force it and so using a podcasting 2.0 app is part of the decentralization movement. So I like ah podverse myself. So if you just go and download podverses. Our shit will never be taken off of that. But.

59:54.40

Max Shank

Bu ya.

59:59.20

mikebledsoe

But Spotify has taken down None I think over 70000 podcast episodes in the last year yeah based on the content. No now they remove certain content. They even pull down some of Rogan's content

01:00:12.90

Max Shank

Whoa Really I thought they were cool. Not cool. Bummer I Do know that by the way if there was ever something that. Ah.

01:00:35.00

mikebledsoe

But not all of it.

01:00:45.96

Max Shank

Was valuable but let's be able to say words other this is a core value. This is a core value here. Okay folks this is this. It's rooted in reality look. It's fine talkytackytacky ever Blah Blah Blah blah. But as soon as someone comes in with the stick.

01:00:53.40

mikebledsoe

Come on. Well this goes back to what you were just saying.

01:01:24.88

Max Shank

You got to like fucking face that reality and so if we can't resolve our differences with words. There's only None choice left and that's physical violence I think everybody should be versed in physical and verbal violence. Not necessarily so they can be violent toward other people. But so they can recognize it number None and defend it number None

01:02:07.86

mikebledsoe

Well I like that I like to Define violence as the person who initiates force so I would I would say ah be well versed in debate because ah or or diplomacy right? So like to me.

01:02:36.76

Max Shank

Right.

01:02:43.20

mikebledsoe

War is just an extension of Diplomacy You know we were like oh diplomacy failed I'm like no this is just we're still being diplomatic. It's just a very violent diplomacy and so the same thing with the words is you know we start off with disagreement. We're trying to work it out things escalate We can't.

01:03:06.64

Max Shank

Interesting.

01:03:17.88

Max Shank

Great.

01:03:20.60

mikebledsoe

Find agreement in the words because people aren't You're right, People are not trained in the ability to listen to understand and then communicate the wall just goes up and you've talked about rhetorical fallacies before the wall goes up and then now it just becomes a mudsling contest.

01:03:56.66

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:03:58.60

mikebledsoe

That that will result if that doesn't get resolved in some way it will result in physical force. This is why the None amendment's important because if only yeah and and because if only 1 group of people has access to violence.

01:04:13.74

Max Shank

The None and the second those are almost all that's important. But.

01:04:35.10

Max Shank

Um, oof because then you go.

01:04:37.56

mikebledsoe

Then then we're in big trouble which takes me back to the point I was making hang on the point I was making which is like the when I look at when I look at ah government. It's hard to tell the difference between government and the mom because they're basically saying give us. A certain amount of your profits give us a certain amount of your of your hard work and we'll make sure that your shop doesn't get burnt down. You know we'll make sure your kid doesn't get beat up in the alley and they're basically saying the mob is basically saying. Overtly, they're saying we'll protect you from other people. Yeah, covertly, they're saying pretty much if you don't pay us None of our thugs are going to come get you which is which is the same thing that happens with the Us government is they say.

01:05:50.12

Max Shank

It's called a protection ring. It's called a protection ring. It's been around for a long time.

01:06:09.36

Max Shank

Ah, right? yeah.

01:06:23.82

mikebledsoe

We're going to protect you from all these outside guys and we got police officers stationed in there. We're gonna protect you as long as you. But if you if you don't give us a None of your life then we're actually gonna come fuck you up and so that's the price of the club. Yeah tough shit. There's like no way out.

01:06:26.48

Max Shank

Move.

01:06:41.98

Max Shank

Right? That's the price of the club and if you don't like it well tough shit This is the only club in town. It's the only club in town. It's like ah you know there is a thing about power companies. You know when you have a single.

01:07:03.56

mikebledsoe

And so well hang on. So so so so when I started when I recognized this this extremely similar ah view of government and the mom.

01:07:16.98

Max Shank

Go go ahead? yeah.

01:07:38.98

mikebledsoe

And I just started looking at all these governments around the world as just mobs that are controlling different geographical locations by by which um are mainly dissected based on Language. So if the language changes that's where the border begins. When there's a different language because you can't control people anymore because they can't understand you and so ah government control happens and within the borders of language and then you basically just have you just have.

01:08:35.50

Max Shank

K case that's http://dciendocappassosenorexplicka me and espanio poque non anddo.

01:08:50.98

mikebledsoe

Exactly. So. So so when you start looking at the world as or the government as just mobsters that are ruling really large pieces of geography and they're all. You know, jocking for position. Everything makes a lot more sense like the Russia Ukraine thing makes way more sense if you just think about it as a couple of mobsters that are that are jocking for position and the United States has done a good job of like. United States has done an incredible job of being very strategic in the way that it's done things. It hasn't it hasn't necessarily ah won with brute force for instance with the Ukraine thing is if you think about mobsters are running Ukraine right now right. Because anyone who has a government is being There's a mob and so those mobsters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well the good the good mobsters of Ukraine are um, just you know the the us government is lending them. What None

01:10:50.92

Max Shank

No, but those are the good mobs. We like them. They're the good mobs.

01:11:18.20

mikebledsoe

Billion dollars a month or something like that that they're never going to be able to pay back all right? So if only someone would come tell me what to think? So so then ah.

01:11:22.22

Max Shank

Oh my God I Wish someone would tell me who the good guys are and who the bad guys are if only someone would come and let me know what to believe about this.

01:11:56.32

mikebledsoe

So then you got so the way I see it is the us government has done an incredible job at buying the people of Ukraine as slaves and so because they're under the control of the Ukraine mob the ukraine mob how are they going to pay back that money they can't pay back that money. So basically they're going to be in debt to the us and the Ukraine is the breadbasket of europe so they produce the the lion's share of the wheat and other things necessary for making a lot of food products and in Europe and so now. The way I see it is the us government. Everyone is everyone is going. You know? Yes for Ukraine I'm like I'm like the us government just enslaved the people of Ukraine and you cheered them along the whole way and is like yeah we are like you know and that is um, that's 0 comment on what. Putin's doing you know whatever you call him more criminal. Whatever the guy's not a good guy. The guy's not a good guy but but people miss that.

01:13:56.16

Max Shank

It's it's about relationships. It's about relations. It's about relationships. It's about relationships and it's about trying to understand what the connection is between those relationships and in order to really get it. You got to reduce the number of parties down, you got to put the words like none and None out of your mind and just say what is the relationship between these different entities or individuals and what you're saying about the us specifically is. They recognize the power of both words and swords because words, okay, nothing scales better than words because it requires no material transfer. It requires only a transfer of pressure waves basically on some level and and. Transfer of ah it's just it scales way easier than actual bullets and actual swords and and if you have both then then you're like King of the castle. Basically so we have crazy weapons and we also have.

01:15:38.90

mikebledsoe

Ah, especially with the internet and everything just repeats easily.

01:16:13.92

Max Shank

Ah, lawyers and bankers and politicians that use words the same way that we're using Bullets and missiles and shit like that and we have we have ah stuff that's happening behind closed doors I mean Okay, let's talk about language again just for a second because.

01:16:25.28

mikebledsoe

Totally.

01:16:50.54

Max Shank

Want to talk about the word conspiracy conspiracy happening all the time people are meeting in secret to discuss plans all the time we would have to be totally naive if we don't think that's going on basically everywhere like every every group is meeting in secret.

01:17:24.88

mikebledsoe

The Cia is ah is a series of conspiracies.

01:17:29.90

Max Shank

We meet in secret we meet? yeah and of course they can't tell everybody everything I mean how fucking schizophrenic do you have to be your level 1 clearance your level 10 clearance I'm a level 10 cia wizard. So I know like 90% of the secrets but only 10% of this I mean it's.

01:17:42.24

mikebledsoe

So it's a conspiracy. Yeah.

01:18:09.70

Max Shank

It's Insane. So ah, kind of tying it back to how we use language and use ideas bringing it back to reality Once again, just doing something with material objects that exist somewhat. Independently of Language. You know how you interact with a tree or the ground of course you have the word tree and ground in your mind but your movement and your creative expression through physical materials. Even if you don't think you have a knack for it. It's very grounding experience.

01:19:37.32

mikebledsoe

Back to physical materials. Yeah, well they? um well what's interesting is my friend Jesse Elder he he's been studying the law extensively the last couple years and um.

01:19:42.80

Max Shank

Um, that that's what I tried to bring us on back because.

01:20:17.64

mikebledsoe

Basically looking at like the foundation of law you know, not you know what are all these little laws that are floating around that are getting passed all the time and changing. But you know yeah, but like what is the the sole basis and we go back in history. What is law.

01:20:33.00

Max Shank

To contract. It's It's just a contract that's it.

01:20:52.36

mikebledsoe

You know how does it operate so he did that and if you can figure out the fundamental principles of how these things work a lot of things get real simple so he did that and one one of the it's what.

01:21:11.92

Max Shank

It's conditional phrases right? I mean I'm not trying to diminish but isn't it like it's conditional. Phrases. It's consequences like the code of Hamurabi was a system of laws but they are very simple if you steal. A woman then you get your eye plucked out and you have to marry her some shit like that. Basically and if you're talking about arbitration which is a little different than law. Basically you are just dealing with an arbitrur like a judge who is deciding.

01:21:45.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:22:20.32

Max Shank

Who's right when they present like the clay tablets or something like can you imagine being. Ah, you know an arbiter back then but that's what they would do so that guy gets to decide but you have it's just enforcing contracts I think and every every relationship you have.

01:22:22.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:22:43.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, that's what it comes down to.

01:22:59.30

Max Shank

Because a contract is oh gosh. It's ah it's a projected relationship. How about that using the words that we've been thinking about so a contract is a a relationship projection or a relative projection between one or more.

01:23:17.86

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:23:31.28

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you're gonna do these things I'm gonna do these things if we don't follow through then it breaks down. There's the consequences.

01:23:39.44

Max Shank

Entities yeah, and it works with yourself too. It works with yourself too. You make a you make a to do list. Maybe you sign at the bottom so I'm going to do this by the end of today you made a contract with yourself. You break the contract but you're also the judge here and you go like what happened. You know should I should I go to jail should I be full of shame or something like that should I punish myself. Do I get 50 lashes? Yeah, um, but I think we do that.

01:24:15.46

mikebledsoe

Should I punish myself emotional jail ah, ah so so jet so Jesse started digging digging into like the principles of law. And None of the results that I've seen in his life is. He's become extremely analog. Ah he is like he he sees the matrix I mean when you look at I mean the law is the matrix and so ah, everything that.

01:24:55.98

Max Shank

Totally. Ah.

01:25:18.14

Max Shank

It's a matrix.

01:25:20.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's a matrix I would I would say it's probably like based one of the base layers of the matrix and then um like the media sits on top of that. But um, he he's gone extremely analog like he's living. He's got twenty acres he's living out on it. He doesn't deal with crypto he. Ah, you know tries that work primarily in gold and silver and like getting he's getting very analog. He's using technology like he's installing a solar farm. He's doing. He's doing some things to harness technology but he's become very analog and.

01:26:28.14

Max Shank

Right.

01:26:37.76

mikebledsoe

What is valuable and so and what he values is analog and so in a world where right now so much of the value is digital and which is which is somewhat of a physical manifestation of something conceptual and so.

01:26:49.52

Max Shank

So true.

01:27:14.22

mikebledsoe

Because we're talking about Energy. Ah Bitcoin is just energy and because it requires energy from the sun whether it come in the form of solar oil. Whatever it is ah it it comes in the form of energy that's being exchanged so there is a physical component to it. But. Which is actually way more tangible than say the Us dollar which has ah which is primarily ruled by what whatever somebody thinks or a group of people think instead of being ruled by actual physical world laws and.

01:28:15.72

Max Shank

Um, that well money is its own like ah shared. It's actually a conspiracy so money is a human conspiracy just like language.

01:28:33.40

mikebledsoe

It's yeah well fiat currency would be yeah, say more.

01:28:53.50

Max Shank

That's that's it money is a conspiracy just like language I mean the fact that.

01:28:55.70

mikebledsoe

Some people some people understand I mean you're right? because there are very. There's a there is a handful of select people who make decisions in secret about the money supply.

01:29:23.52

Max Shank

Oh I mean just like it's not ah like a like okay so steak is not a human conspiracy like a dog still understands. What steak is it might know it by a different name like maybe steak for a dog is like.

01:29:49.14

mikebledsoe

Right.

01:29:58.00

Max Shank

Wolf Af or something like that I don't I don't know exactly what it's like for a dog but like money is and language are purely human conspiracies like we made all this stuff up because it's useful so they're useful lies. Essentially words are useful symbols so that we can.

01:30:09.82

mikebledsoe

I'll go ask my buddies dog.

01:30:35.78

Max Shank

Project these ideas ah into ah interchangeable parts Basically and that's what we're looking for with money is it's the ultimate interchangeable part because it's like ah an I O you that everybody agrees on it's a. Ah, accepted anywhere right? So it's money's like God It's if you believe in it it it is ah infinite Power. It's total potential and it's such a useful tool. There's no I can't.

01:31:31.92

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:31:49.52

Max Shank

It's so difficult for me to envision a society where we didn't have a way to exchange goods modularly. You know people talk about the fungibility or non-fungibility of token. Sometimes the fact that a dollar is a dollar is a dollar is a dollar is a dollar and I mean it did used to be backed by gold which was cool but let's not be too wistful over the glory days. But in any case. The fact that we have it and that we can change it and move it so quickly means that I can you know ah work under a bridge given hand jobs send it back to my scientist grandpa in Hungary and he can use that money. To build a nuclear fusion reactor or something like that right? That's that's incredible that you don't have to but based on my hungarian physicist ah grandfather I was thinking of him every time I gave a hand job under the bridge.

01:33:40.52

mikebledsoe

That's based on a true story folks.

01:34:04.94

Max Shank

I was just thinking this is going to be unlimited energy for everybody I'm not going to let you down pop pop anyway, ah, but but that's that's what I mean is like you you can turn hand jobs into cold fusion potentially and that is why money is cool. Ah, so we wouldn't have these computers and microphones the ubiquity of the cell phone like all this stuff was done because we were able to transfer this um potential of human action and it just it kind of reminds me of this funky idea I had. When I was none learning about like the coins and the cryptos and things like that and I thought it'd be cool to have something called like a handycoin that was ah just based off of the value that a person placed on like 1 hour of labor.

01:35:50.38

mikebledsoe

I Thought you were gonna say hand jobs but handicoin and a yeah.

01:35:59.34

Max Shank

No, not not not hand that would be even better. None coin equals one hj full stop. That's actually a better idea now that I think about anyway, but the whole idea was like you know you can put a posting on Craigslist or you can. Ah, go out to home depot and you can find like ah, a laborer who will do sometimes skilled sometimes unskilled. No no, no, no, but but but that's what that would be for is just for unskilled labor. Every hour is equal and so.

01:36:43.94

mikebledsoe

Um, are you are you saying that every hour is equal in value. No no okay.

01:37:05.52

mikebledsoe

Ah, so you create a caste system.

01:37:12.36

Max Shank

The value of that coin the value of that coin would be related to what someone is willing to do for an hour like 1 hour of unskilled labor. Ah, but at least it's tied to like.

01:37:37.54

mikebledsoe

Isn't that how just capitalism works.

01:37:50.30

Max Shank

The floor of ah one of of labor per hour right? It's like it's like it sets the floor which it is a value. Yeah, but it's so it's different. It's only correlated to ah.

01:37:51.24

mikebledsoe

So there's a minimum.

01:38:02.88

mikebledsoe

Sounds like a minimum wage.

01:38:23.40

Max Shank

Like someone actually doing real work I don't know like I said it's not a night. It's not an idea that I've taken over the finish line. Ah, but it's ah this idea that it needs to be tied to something and right now it's tied to our belief and that works.

01:38:32.00

mikebledsoe

I'm not sure I'm following.

01:39:02.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah I I think the problem that people have with money right now is that? Ah, there are a handful of people who are controlling how it flows so ah, not necessarily.

01:39:03.26

Max Shank

Weirdly enough it. It's not great, but it's okay like if.

01:39:29.48

Max Shank

Has that always been the case.

01:39:39.64

mikebledsoe

Not not to this degree I would say that. Um, so for instance when when the dollar is tied to gold money. Well I'm I'm talking about primarily money so like um so on 1 hand you have.

01:39:52.24

Max Shank

Are we talking about money or wealth or both and.

01:40:16.00

Max Shank

Um, like not.

01:40:17.52

mikebledsoe

And organization that decides. Ah how much the interest rates are going to be like what's what's the debt going to be worth and then you and then they also control the amount of money that's in the system. So those are like really big picture things. So so of when you're.

01:40:49.44

Max Shank

Oh yeah, big time.

01:40:56.00

mikebledsoe

When you're working with gold which you know all governments have inflated there even when it was gold. They did things like shave off the edges and you know there's ah until people figured it out and they lost faith in it. Yeah, they have so you can't fake it and so then um, so.

01:41:14.14

Max Shank

That's why those coins have ridges right? That's why they put the ridges on the coins. Ah.

01:41:31.34

mikebledsoe

The money supply and then the cost of debt is 2 major things that are that are employed big picture and then you have taxes so that I think the tax code is 176000 pages something like that. Ah, it might be a little bit maybe 76 maybe oh there. There's a.

01:41:56.40

Max Shank

I think maybe only 76 but but but but None like you that should be simple.

01:42:09.52

mikebledsoe

There's a ton of there's all, there's but there's basically all these rule the whole point in the tax code is to incentivize people under a certain type of behavior and it's it's.

01:42:32.34

Max Shank

And hide and hide what's actually happening and create as much of a smokescreen as possible for what's actually going on.

01:42:43.48

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's they they want to they want to confuse like the majority of people need to be confused about what's going on because if the majority of people knew exactly what was going on there'd be riots in the streets. But the.

01:43:07.80

Max Shank

We would sell a lot more guillotines if that were the case Guillotine sales. That's that's what I'm actually getting into right now you know pendulums and government swing I think we're like perfect time to invest in guillot in Guillotines I think ah.

01:43:28.34

mikebledsoe

Well, how let's look at the tax code I got to do this search on the tax code.

01:43:44.46

Max Shank

You know you can sell your ultimate Orgasm formula and then I'm going to sell guillotines for the coming revolutions.

01:43:53.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, we got figure I got to figure out how this tax code thing. Um all right. There's the myth of the 70000 page federal tax code.

01:44:10.78

Max Shank

It's really long.

01:44:19.60

Max Shank

It has to do with um like references to it because there are amendments to the tax code and there are cases that have modified how it's interpreted.

01:44:38.52

mikebledsoe

So the tax code has nearly tripled is it ah the tax code has nearly tripled and linked over the last thirty years um 70000 is not true. The tax code was only 20 so so it's it's. It's like triple of the None pages. So I think it's anyways thirty years ago is 2600? Oh no, none the tax code was only about 20. It's so funny and this blog says it's only None pages long. Um, yeah, but the point so.

01:45:47.60

Max Shank

Ah, it shouldn't even be 2600 words long fuckers. Let alone pages.

01:45:50.40

mikebledsoe

So um, yeah, so the so the so you've got a small group of people controlling the supply of the money you got a small group of people controlling the ah cost of the debt and then you have a small I think between. Ah, the senate the congress and all the the the the top government I think is around None and something like None something people so None something people are controlling 350000000 people.

01:46:55.92

Max Shank

It's leverage.

01:47:07.30

mikebledsoe

With a 2600 page tax code that incentivizes certain types of purchases disincentivizes other types of purchases. Um it ah it does it does really incentivize investing in real estate which is interesting because you can.

01:47:21.92

Max Shank

Right.

01:47:35.14

Max Shank

Well let's also look at this because it's not ah like those politicians are only like fabricating these ideas in their own mind. They're having people come in and say like hey we're this ah business that does one ah 0 every month.

01:48:07.94

mikebledsoe

These politicians don't write these laws. These laws are being brought to them.

01:48:14.22

Max Shank

And and and right and like hey Joe blow politician um, you know I was thinking. Ah you know you could you could really help us out. Ah, but you know I don't want you to work too hard. So I I went I went ahead and prepared the law for you.

01:48:49.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, which the law the which the law is like 10000 pages long. There's no way who the fuck reads those things. No one reads that shit.

01:48:52.82

Max Shank

I went ahead and had my lawyers prepare this law for you and I I left this spot at the it's about 10000 pages I sent a copy to all your colleagues already I put a place here for you to sign your name at the bottom and I think it's a really really good idea for you to do this.

01:49:27.48

mikebledsoe

And and we'll we'll pay your son like $10000000 a year for advisory.

01:49:32.46

Max Shank

And because like power. Oh dude that guy is that guy is fucking set but you know Hidden hidden in that fucking quagmire of verbal violence in that fucking law that's been written is. How um competition and free market is prevented right? It's not like going to be awesome for everybody. Ah, it's gone too far but it's just because we have set up the rules of the game.

01:50:24.98

mikebledsoe

Yep.

01:50:46.98

Max Shank

To allow for too much of ah human error. Basically.

01:50:49.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and so this is where um so we have to believe in the money I'm talking about belief which means you got to trust it right? And so we're at a in my lifetime we're at a record breaking low of trust in.

01:51:10.16

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:51:28.32

mikebledsoe

Government or the record breaking low and trust in media I think that in since the emergence of crypto there has been a trickling of people in droves that don't trust the money that that trust ah 1 of the things that web 3

01:51:59.64

Max Shank

A.

01:52:07.38

mikebledsoe

Really ah has brought about is it requires less trust because you can't fuck with it like it doesn't matter how much somebody wants to change something. It's not humanly possible to change some of these rules and how these crypto.

01:52:46.54

Max Shank

Question for you is web 3 basically trying to use blockchain technology to store web data and provide server. Ah for websites.

01:52:47.00

mikebledsoe

Cryptos work. Yeah.

01:53:13.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's that's that's one that's so it's a ledger well blockchain is just a really advanced ledger system that's automatically updated in decentralized web 3 in blockchain everyone in the same.

01:53:23.66

Max Shank

It's like decentralized web servers.

01:53:35.48

Max Shank

No, but web 3 I'm asking. Okay, I'm okay.

01:53:51.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the the way I understand it. It's it's just web 3 is kind of you say blockchain and people get a little confused and go web 3 and they go oh like you know web one was we can send information from computer to computer web two was we have html and everything's visually we have visual graphics and. And we can. There's clickable things and and then social media and then Web 3 is blockchain mother of all demos.

01:54:39.84

Max Shank

You should see the mother look up the mother of all demos sometime it shows what it's fucking great I think it was in the 60 s we were able to do like ah word documents and video chat and all kinds of shit in like the 60 s.

01:55:14.74

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:55:19.48

Max Shank

Called the mother of all demos um wild what was capable way back then and then that wasn't ubiquitous for people that wasn't common for people until forty years later something like that not nuts.

01:55:41.10

mikebledsoe

Right? Yeah, there's that's it's fascinating. Um.

01:55:54.74

Max Shank

So that's the leverage though is how fast we can communicate a message a lot of ah censorship speaking of like the None amendment kind of.

01:56:06.90

mikebledsoe

Well, there's also you not just how fast can you communicate a message but can it actually get through the noise. How loud how loud is your message and how well received is it because there's there's a there's a level of skill that's involved in being heard.

01:56:21.14

Max Shank

Yeah, well and. Absolutely no question I mean I think that's why stand-up comedy is one of those places where the rubber meets the road on free speech a little bit because if you're allowed to say anything as long as it's a joke. Then you can still at least get that message into people's minds without having ah it be controlled and that's ultimately what drives a population if if suddenly it was the law like so that's that's what's kind of interesting. You know I don't think it's good to have. Like a lot of power in the hands of a few people. It's back to leverage same thing as a hammer right? It's physical leverage in different ways. Um, but if they suddenly made it like the law to kill None puppy every week like let's just say that became the law people would not do that.

01:58:27.84

mikebledsoe

Well, it's got to be Ah, it's got to be done in small bits I mean all right? So this may actually happen. Yeah this this may actually happen right? So they So there's the media's put out the yeah, the media has put out some notices that.

01:58:29.80

Max Shank

Because the collective consciousness of whether that's okay or not.

01:58:44.64

Max Shank

You're like talking Boiling Boiling Frog right? Yeah yeah, the puppy killing oh shit, you know what you're right? The puppy flew.

01:59:07.84

mikebledsoe

You know some people are getting getting. Ah yeah, they're getting Well they're getting coronavirus they're It's like oh statistically we find that people who are around dogs more get coronavirus. Whatever.

01:59:17.52

Max Shank

Copy flu.

01:59:27.40

Max Shank

Oh God Oh don't don't even put this out. It's so easily could happen. You could get people to kill puppies as long as you said puppies increased the no fucking way. Wow.

01:59:35.98

mikebledsoe

So so here's the thing there are cities in China where they've gone in and killed all the dogs. Yeah, and so it's already happened and so um, which.

02:00:04.80

Max Shank

Heavy heavy.

02:00:12.90

mikebledsoe

When we think about that happening in China we go. Yeah that's totally believable because they're under some weird you know they're they're under some like heavy mind control. But I think that people I think americans give themselves way too much credit on how ah how little. They they think they they're being exposed and are subject to way less propaganda I would say it's less propagandized in the United States like we're not as susceptible because there's so much competing information where there's not as much competition for information there. But the propaganda is real.

02:01:04.92

Max Shank

Overt. It's just yeah, ah.

02:01:26.32

mikebledsoe

And so all you gotta do? It's been proven in the last two years all you gotta do is make people think that they're gonna die if they don't do this thing and they'll fucking. Do it. They'll strap 3 masks on they'll put an experimental vaccine in their body and they'll they'll ah make statements like.

02:01:56.76

Max Shank

Oh god we just got flagged. That's us we're done. He's in Texas go get him I was never here. Ah.

02:02:01.54

mikebledsoe

We should throw people. We're done off Spotify. Ah I'm in Texas I'm in Texas good luck. So yeah, um.

02:02:34.34

Max Shank

Oh my gosh. So it's all it really is it all comes down to force right? It all comes down to how much of an impact you can make with words or with stuff it all comes and it's leverage.

02:02:52.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, because with the words you can still like if if ah, a small group of people can convince the large group of people that I'm a bad guy. They don't even have to get their hands dirty and so they use mind control to create violence.

02:03:21.18

Max Shank

Totally, you're separated from it.

02:03:32.34

mikebledsoe

And that's another thing we've witnessed big time in the last two years is they don't have to fucking create violence. They'll all they got to do is leverage some media to get people really hot and bothered then put.

02:03:50.38

Max Shank

Nobody wants to get their hands dirty.

02:04:08.20

mikebledsoe

Certain Spokes holes out there to to tell people how they should think what they should think and next thing you know things are burning. Yeah.

02:04:18.56

Max Shank

Hurt people hurt people right? hurt people hurt people. Ah and the more removed you are from the impact the easier it is like imagine if ah. Kind of like in game of thrones. The one who passes the sentence or the one who passes the sentence should carry it out like if you're gonna sentence a guide to death. Yeah, that was a stark thing. Yeah, well, it's cause it's like really warm weather and there's.

02:05:02.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah I mean that that was ah and ah that was a stark thing as the the northerners believed in that but you know you go to the South a bunch of soft pussies.

02:05:32.40

Max Shank

Ah titties and asses everywhere on the beach like I I don't blame them I get it like I I wouldn't be too like I wouldn't be too Stern with duty if the beach was like full of naked chicks and coconuts like what are we fighting for.

02:05:34.12

mikebledsoe

Teddy's everywhere I I.

02:06:07.20

Max Shank

There's food and titties everywhere. Ah but I think that idea of if you're going to be the one who passes the sentence you should carry it out the corollary or the inverse of that is if you can pass judgment.

02:06:06.20

mikebledsoe

Ah, ah.

02:06:44.66

Max Shank

And be totally removed from the action if you can tell a guy to tell another guy to tell another guy to tell another guy to take a drone to this other guy so that guy can drone this fucking stranger to him like he doesn't know who it is. He doesn't Care. You're not going to even feel that. But if imagine if you had to personally choke every person that you wanted to kill that would be a really different type of connection.

02:07:27.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, it's it's well it's this disconnection from responsibility on both ends, you've got the guy passing the sentence who's disconnected from the reality of what it takes to do that and then the person who's executing can just say.

02:07:45.32

Max Shank

Totally.

02:08:03.82

mikebledsoe

You know I'm just following orders but at the end of the day who but eat.

02:08:09.54

Max Shank

Ah, oh God there's a phrase I fuss just following all us now that's not fair. That's not fair that is not a cool thing to do what I just did because it's not like the germans.

02:08:29.74

mikebledsoe

A.

02:08:38.36

Max Shank

Are the only people who have done any horrible shit that is so unfair of me. The only reason that we use them as the poster boy. The only reason we use them as the poster boy is they just happen to target the group who is best at marketing and that's why that story is the most popular.

02:08:48.26

mikebledsoe

Oh I'll I'll say this.

02:09:12.80

mikebledsoe

Well now now you're now you're gonna now you're really stepping in it.

02:09:16.64

Max Shank

Of all the evil stories. Oh what Jews are bad at marketing mike.

02:09:33.10

mikebledsoe

Um, you're right? Um, yeah, there there's there's there's.

02:09:37.26

Max Shank

So some of my best friends in the world are Jews they're usually very smart. They're usually financially sound. They're usually pretty good at business I mean I hate to generalize.

02:09:52.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's there's plenty of groups of people. Yeah, there's plenty of groups of people that have been exterminated and and more more mass that we're not nearly as good at marketing you right? Um, and but yeah, that's that's well.

02:10:13.32

Max Shank

Totally.

02:10:25.92

mikebledsoe

We have We have police officers and just ah, you know make it fair. We have police officers that are doing no knock warrants but are serving no knock warrants ah busting people for drugs that are not hurting anybody and and it harmed a fucking soul and.

02:10:55.82

Max Shank

Oh god.

02:11:04.62

mikebledsoe

There are really egregious things happening I mean your domain your your where you live is a sacred place. It is yeah 1 time out your house. But.

02:11:09.68

Max Shank

Totally.

02:11:23.50

Max Shank

I Live in fantasy Land I live in Fanta No No I mean literally like my house and my sense of the world is basically fantasy land because all this horrible Shit. We're talking about I Actually don't have to see most of it but there are slaves. In the world there. There are horrible things. There are that that's wild. How much did it cost I'm just kidding I'm just kidding.

02:12:00.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah I've seen I've seen I've seen Slavery Firsthand I I was shocked. Yeah oh I I What the slaves. Um.

02:12:35.26

Max Shank

I assume you would have gotten 1 Okay.

02:12:39.18

mikebledsoe

Now we we ended up being a rescue.

02:12:51.20

Max Shank

You mean I just thought of like you know you adopt a dog you like rescue a dog versus you buy 1 at the breeder. That's what I thought you went for some.

02:13:04.00

mikebledsoe

No, no, no, no, we we were. We were coming up I was in the navy we were coming up on what looked like a ship in distress and it was full of slaves being traded from Somalia to Yemen and so ah so that shit's that shit's.

02:13:26.00

Max Shank

Good God See That's what I'm talking about that stuff's happening all the time. Yeah, we're divorced from that reality and in some ways that's good because how much shit can you really pay attention to should I Really? okay.

02:13:41.22

mikebledsoe

Shit's happening all time. It's real. We just we just happen to come across them. Yeah.

02:14:05.86

Max Shank

Like I'm I'm not nice or bad I'm just whatever I am basically but should I really concern myself with with what's going on in like the Ivory coast right now or something like that when I could have like I mean.

02:14:28.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

02:14:40.66

Max Shank

I got None of room to improve my own life. The last thing I need to do is put my attention somewhere where I can't have any impact at all. That's true for so many of us.

02:14:41.76

mikebledsoe

Well.

02:14:56.62

mikebledsoe

But I agree with the the problem is is we people care so much about something that's happened in Ukraine but don't care about what's happening in other countries that well I would say in other countries and so what people aren't realizing is like look if you want to have like.

02:15:17.60

Max Shank

Um, in their own life in their own life. Oh yeah.

02:15:36.94

mikebledsoe

I've taken this on I like look I I do believe I I want to be exposed I want to be exposed to the reality of death I want to be exposed to the reality of the most atrocious things that are happening I want to know that those things are happening and so because I I think it's good I think it's good to. To be aware that these things are happening where people get in trouble is they aren't able to look at everything equally they're not able to look out and go oh there's these atrocities over here and there's atrocities over here. They're looking at the atrocities in Ukraine. They're not looking at the atrocities in and.

02:16:15.54

Max Shank

A.

02:16:50.38

mikebledsoe

In some places in Africa or the Middle East where we're bombing the shit out of people and and so if you're only focused on 1 atrocity and you're not willing to look at another.

02:16:54.80

Max Shank

Um, yes, totally.

02:17:18.15

mikebledsoe

You're not actually having an expanded view of reality you're being controlled by the media.

02:17:22.83

Max Shank

And you can't prioritize and you can't prioritize. It comes back to matter because if you think like whatever they say matters today matters most to you then you're just going to be spinning your wheels forever. You're like. Oh my god I'm just feeling so banged up about this thing. Oh this new thing I'm sad about and trannie's this and can we play sports and are you black like all this kind of stuff. It's like who gives a fuck like this is this this is the mind of a schizophrenic person. But if you're not connected.

02:18:17.76

mikebledsoe

Yeah, we have global schizophrenia.

02:18:28.58

Max Shank

Yeah, but how could you evaluate with how could you evaluate what matters most to you in any given moment if you're being fed this idea and buying it hook line and sinker that this new thing you just heard of suddenly matters the most and when you realize how many things you could care about you. I think you'll eventually come back to what can I do right now within my own life and then as far as like policy is concerned. There's only 2 things that matter and that's Authority who's in charge and jurisdiction when are they in charge.

02:19:40.72

mikebledsoe

Neither one of those things seem to be matter to me neither one of those things seem to be matter to me.

02:19:42.25

Max Shank

And that's it. What's that. But for policy that that's the only thing that does matter that's correct that is correct. That's correct hey look.

02:19:56.72

mikebledsoe

But it's not matter. It's just words.

02:20:20.38

Max Shank

Words can matter and words matter to you and they do matter to me but you can choose.

02:20:30.86

mikebledsoe

But they don't matter as much as matter I just want to get that point across. Yeah, they're just 1 step from matter I mean words are just metaphor for matter. So.

02:20:39.24

Max Shank

Certainly not how could they so anyway back Okay, fuck it I I go the other way I say words matter a lot I say words will fucking transform words are the pattern.

02:21:03.14

mikebledsoe

I.

02:21:18.94

Max Shank

That is going to change your matter. Okay, so when you when you well look. Let's take black lives matter for a example and I got something to say about this there. It is I said everything I can say.

02:21:19.18

mikebledsoe

I Agree it's great at manipulating matter.

02:21:36.26

mikebledsoe

Oh that's good 1

02:21:57.20

Max Shank

Ah, no, no, but like all kidding aside this is this is like a ah weird racist idea like the only thing we should all want is for everybody to be treated Well man woman gay straight black white. Not purple people fuck those people but any anyone like normal colored we should treat the same so it it kind of like look I don't want to shit on anyone's cupcake either? Okay, but do we have like a national women's women's day or something like that. We we have these weird celebrations We have.

02:22:46.94

mikebledsoe

Um, I think you do.

02:23:04.90

Max Shank

Pride month and that's ah, that's a weird one like I I think being gay is really awesome.

02:23:12.98

mikebledsoe

Elon Elon Musk made a really good ah a controversial tweet. Basically he's pointing out how all these companies just all the sudden are are fucking leveraging and this this idea they don't give him a fuck.

02:23:31.40

Max Shank

Um, Oh yeah, well your I your identity is getting hijacked and ah worst off I mean look I think from my own direct Experience. Nothing has fucked me up as bad as my own pride. So. So so so it's like basically like volunteering to ruin someone's life for a whole month. It's like hey you know that deadly sin that we're all desperately trying to avoid. We think? ah. You would enjoy a whole month straight of it. No homosexuality is awesome. It looks really fun. In fact, I've never seen anyone who looked like they were having a better time than a couple of gay guys at a gay party right? Ah, that's that's.

02:24:51.30

mikebledsoe

He's talking about pride folks not homosexuality.

02:25:13.28

mikebledsoe

I agree I I'm I'm jealous I'm jealous.

02:25:24.40

Max Shank

Fully and that's fully uninhibited and I think ah you know the old school gays and trannies. They would not want to control language about what's going on like I I like the the like old school trannies. From like the 70 s and eighty s who were like really buff black dudes and who were like god damn I look fine and address and but but that's the old school type what I'm saying is these these bitches were wise you know and they were tough and if someone.

02:26:07.82

mikebledsoe

They're still around I've been I've been to the club. Yeah.

02:26:32.12

Max Shank

Was like you're not a real woman. They would be like suck my dick and then they would be like you know, brassy and tough and they would risk their lives to go dance in like ah a tranny Speakeay and I I respect that but this whole like you gotta. You got to call me this or you got to call me that or I'm going to call dad and they're going to hit you with a stick. It's like that sucks we need. We need these old school trannies to talk some sense into them about free speech because there's no reason that that should be but there's no reason that there.

02:27:31.94

mikebledsoe

Now now we're getting kicked off Spotify. Ah.

02:27:47.34

Max Shank

Okay, like those people also look fun like I think that's great, but this whole idea that we should treat any person different because of how they want to like mutilate their body or enhance it like I mean fake fake boobs Totally fine cut your dick off not fine I think they're both fine.

02:28:10.22

mikebledsoe

Well well.

02:28:22.56

mikebledsoe

I I think.

02:28:26.82

Max Shank

Personally, but I think any time you want to control the language of other people you have a mental disorder. Basically.

02:28:39.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and and you're it is someone trying to force other people to participate in their identity and that is that's insane like was it a.

02:28:59.20

Max Shank

Right? That's like forcing someone to come to your party hey hey I'm throwing a party Friday I don't want to go. You're coming.

02:29:18.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you're racist if you don't come and I'm gonna call your boss and they're gonna fire you.

02:29:32.68

Max Shank

Ah, ah oh God pride go before a fall pride Pride's pride is not something that you really want to like emphasize in your life I think being open being able to express yourself.

02:29:36.64

mikebledsoe

It's like no I was well from time for myself.

02:29:46.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

02:30:10.18

Max Shank

Very good. It's just you know these words do influence our matter quite a lot. So this idea. Ah this idea that we yeah okay ah I don't know like I'm I'm so skeptical about joining groups. Anyway.

02:30:18.34

mikebledsoe

Bring here, bring it back up mic up. It keeps falling.

02:30:46.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

02:30:48.82

Max Shank

As you know, but like you lose you lose so much of ah that groundedness and reality when you're like I'm on team ah Republican or I'm on Team Trans or I'm on team Black I mean I think if I could be on team black that would be pretty cool though. In in my life. Black people were much cooler better at dancing I feel like I would get a lot of street cred if I was on team black actually as as a white guy but I don't think people should be ah I don't know forced to whatever other people's ah.

02:31:39.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:31:59.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah I mean I think we you and I both just believe people should leave each other alone and some people are just nosy and and controlling. Yeah.

02:32:04.18

Max Shank

Lives.

02:32:16.30

Max Shank

Um, what a novel concept what a novel concept. So what are we trying to do here mike has this been our None secret episode is that what ah has gone on here.

02:32:35.00

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, so this is ah you just got a taste of what happens during most pre-shows. Ah, although we went a little.

02:32:59.70

Max Shank

Max and Mike Raw

02:33:03.86

mikebledsoe

Um, that's definitely a porno. Um well.

02:33:15.44

Max Shank

Ah, at least we already have 1 filmed hey oh.

02:33:25.62

mikebledsoe

Ah, so um, say yeah, we're playing around with the idea. Maybe we'll do ah we tend to talk about 20 minutes we tend to talk about for about 20 minutes before we do shows and yeah ill I'll gonna talk to my tech team and see what.

02:33:41.88

Max Shank

We'll do a little pre-show.

02:34:03.62

mikebledsoe

And marketing teams see what they think cause I can't do anything would like some feedback from their audience. What I'm thinking right? now is maybe a pay what you want ah membership to get yeah, come get in the club hear The pre-show get some of the raw conversations that ah.

02:34:09.62

Max Shank

Let's get some feedback from the audience though too Huh I Want to. I Like it to join the club.

02:34:38.52

Max Shank

Ah.

02:34:40.46

mikebledsoe

Come about and also witness the how we come up with the idea of what we're gonna do for the show that day So there's there's a lot. There's so many things that we discussed before the show starts that I wish was recorded that doesn't necessarily fall in line with the rest of the show but is still extremely valuable.

02:34:50.20

Max Shank

Um, I mean we could even do like a. Yeah, yeah, it'd be cool to give people a chance to participate too like maybe they could ah it depends like we could. Ah. Plug them into the call we could do like a live tweeting thing for them or like a little. Oh. No I mean we can just like um, get them involved. Ah.

02:35:36.12

mikebledsoe

I Don't think we can live stream out of our current system.

02:35:57.38

mikebledsoe

How would you like to be involved. That's it showing the name. Maybe we could do it. We could do it like a telegram group. We could do I don't fucking know and I say I'm gonna talk to my tech my tech and marketing team are good to talk to because I could tell them what we and then they.

02:36:06.68

Max Shank

Yeah, how would you like to be involved That's ah that's a good question like what would you like us to cover. Yeah I like these ah more human interactions.

02:36:36.32

mikebledsoe

Um, like hey there's what we're thinking about doing and they'll come back and say oh you should you could set it up like this this and this these guys look I'm 40 these guys are in their 30 s early 30 s they.

02:36:40.28

Max Shank

Yeah.

02:36:51.24

Max Shank

Age card look at that folks. He's trying to get clout by look how old I am look how fucking old I am what a thing to brag about you son of a bitch.

02:37:07.26

mikebledsoe

Oh humble brag Humble brack. No, but the the ah the all these guy I now I don't know that's that's not what I'm saying at all is I don't keep up with the shit that's popular right now I don't know what technology is out there.

02:37:24.30

Max Shank

I'm so old that I got smarter than you.

02:37:35.80

Max Shank

Um, that's.

02:37:45.48

mikebledsoe

Um, like I want to do this and then they tell me a dozen ways to do it some of which I are like Wow you can do that now. So that's why it's help talk to them now.

02:37:58.34

Max Shank

Yeah, let's talk about widgets next time, Let's talk about our favorite ah tech stuff.

02:38:11.60

mikebledsoe

We never. We never talk about the thing in the next show that we think we might talk about in the previous show I think so all right? we end it there give us your feedback if you want to reach me directly just hit me up on Instagram Mike Underscore Bloodso and now.

02:38:23.12

Max Shank

I Think we're going to talk about things on the next show it' going to happen.

02:38:50.70

mikebledsoe

And then you want them to do any hoops you want people to jump through max.

02:38:56.42

Max Shank

Ah, well thanks for tuning in my name is max shank. You can find me at http://maxshank.com and I hope you have a lovely rest of your day.

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May 30, 2022

00:00.00

Max Shank

Welcome back everybody to Monday and mornings with max and Mike Today we were chatting before we hit record and Mike wisely suggested we hit record before we talk for an hour. We're talking about tools. We were talking about skills. Had an interesting experience where I was building a box but it wasn't any kind of box. It was actually a strongman pinata for a friend of mine and so I hung up this box in a tree. And had a sledgehammer that he had to go find as part of this scavenger hunt and when a box a wood box is not wedged against the ground if it's just hanging.

00:42.54

mikebledsoe

Um.

01:52.60

Max Shank

You can hit that thing pretty much as hard as you want if it's wellmade with a sledgehammer and it's really hard because the forest dissipates throughout anyway, it was a fun ah thing for my friend's birthday shout out Anders. You're the man did a great scavenger hunt. But it made me realize how little I know about the principles of woodworking construction in general and it also made me start thinking about the tools required to do certain jobs and I was talking Mike I was talking with you just a second ago. About how I breezed right past using the simple tools. Well and I just in None fell swoop I bought a friend's full set of tools when I didn't know anything I had basically just purchased a home. And I had a drill from before but I didn't really have any any tools so I bought this whole ah batch of tools and half of them I didn't even know what they were a quarter of them I knew what they were but I didn't know when to use them and the other quarter. Actually have learned how to use and it makes me wish that I had gone back and just started with a drill and a hammer and a saw or a chisel or something like that and I think um, the same thing is true for all types of education.

04:01.32

mikebledsoe

Oh.

05:06.28

Max Shank

I Think we fly right through so quick to ah, some end result before really understanding the principles involved. Ah I found myself having to use a little math for these projects which was very exciting but what I realized is so. Ah, cool is when you build something the the math is important but all of the geometry and stuff is very incomplete because I remember in math Class. You usually don't account for the thickness of a material so there are all these. Minor adjustments that you have to make so I think ah yeah I would ah I am doing it now I'm going back in time and relearning the the simple principles of using a saw and a drill and fastening. Pieces of wood together and cutting different types of angles and slots and it's It's been.. It's been really fun.

06:36.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, that that journey really resonates with me you were you were talking about the tools and ah everything that was happening over the weekend and and how you all this shit. You don't need and I had a very similar experience. Yeah I grew up I grew up in Construction. My dad had his own construction company and um, you know I witnessed him use a lot of tools that I didn't use that I never use because they were advanced So like I'd seen them and then I got a toolbox when I was a kid. I was like in my mid teens and that's that was my Christmas gift the most disappointing Christmas gift I ever received was a tool empty Toolbox I could put tools in it I would greatly appreciate that now at some it. He's like it's like like man.

08:56.90

Max Shank

Sounds like the best gift ever now.

08:27.40

mikebledsoe

My dad was just a little ahead of himself. Um, you know I think he was He did a good job of instilling the things that are important even if it wasn't the thing that was gonna make me the happiest in the moment. Ah, and yeah, what a good guide that guy was.

09:30.76

Max Shank

Um, right I think that's called parenting.

09:06.60

mikebledsoe

Ah, so um, but yeah I I spent years accumulating and losing tools and I moved around a lot so I didn't stay in one spot so something that did recently and you talked he said something you know about.

10:07.00

Max Shank

Ah.

09:42.50

mikebledsoe

Being able to go back in time or go back and do it over again is I I basically did that because I got I got rid of all my personal belongings in 2018 and got down to 2 bags and traveled nomatically and ah there was like None little box of tools that were. That were like they're they're good for vehicles like they're everything you would need in a vehicle to is something were to go wrong. You know, just ah, a socket set and and a few wrenches. Nothing.

11:10.40

Max Shank

E.

11:21.20

Max Shank

Would you know what to do I I would not know what to do ah with the perfect speaking of skills if you gave me the perfect car tool set and a car that wasn't working forget it I would have no idea how to apply that tool set.

11:09.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well I was fortunate because my dad in his all of his foresight. He made sure I had classic cars growing up and so he made me pay for them but he really encouraged me to get classic cars because they are.

12:11.74

Max Shank

Oh.

11:47.54

mikebledsoe

Much easier to work on you know? Yeah, so if you anything before 1973 or 4 Yeah, everything is a hundred percent mechanical so right yeah the the electronics go as far as like the radio.

12:34.48

Max Shank

They're simpler machines.

12:49.78

Max Shank

No No electronics. The dash or something. Yeah.

12:26.62

mikebledsoe

The yeah the dash but like you don't you don't have fuel injection. There's nothing happening in the engine that's run electronically. There's no chips.

13:25.20

Max Shank

There's no power being adjusted to individual wheels during a turn via some computer making 60000 ah calculations per millisecond and you're like oh I'll just fix the computer.

12:47.80

mikebledsoe

Right? right.

13:09.92

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, so there's um, ah I think it was 1974 it was due to the oil crisis at the time which there's a lot of similarities between the 1970 s and the 2020 s in regard to if you look at.

14:20.20

Max Shank

Me.

13:44.62

mikebledsoe

What's happening geopolitically and economically, there's exactly yeah yeah, a little bit of pushback is what we're starting to witness with that as well. Um, yeah, there's a lot of similarities. Ah but 1 of the things that happened was in 1973 or 4

14:34.34

Max Shank

Psychedelic Resurgence currently too pretty cool.

14:24.36

mikebledsoe

They basically made they they wanted fuel. They wanted vehicles to become much more fuel efficient because the cost of oil was going up because of some opec shit that was going on so that's where fuel injectors came in now before that was mechanically driven fuel injection through Carburetors. So The the cool thing is is. My dad I don't know if he did this on purpose or not but with ah with a older vehicle. It is Simpler So It's easier to learn how to work on the other thing is is I'm confident now because I I rebuilt everything on cars I'm confident that if you gave me a carburet like a car that had a carburetor I could figure it out.

16:24.78

Max Shank

Qua.

15:43.32

mikebledsoe

And so um I'm not saying I would like figure it out like Macgyver in 10 seconds but I could I would eventually figure it out. It's been a long time but you start throwing all these electronics in and yeah, now you have to plug a computer into it just to know what's going on. So um.

16:34.68

Max Shank

Down.

16:22.70

mikebledsoe

So I know the basics.

17:04.66

Max Shank

It's a bit of an ego. It's a bit of an ego check too to go back and relearn the simple mechanics of things right? How how exact like how fluid passes through. Ah.

16:36.20

mikebledsoe

Things you think you should have learned or I should know by it as a man I should know this shit.

17:37.88

Max Shank

Pipe and what happens when it meets a junction and the pressure involved right? and the action of different things and just a really basic valve a very basic pump learning how these things work because I I realized I I mean I'm still not. Ah, educated in it. But you realize just what a tremendous amount of the world Around. You is only functioning because all of these parts are working exactly as they should and as soon as they would stop. You. At least I would at the time have no clue what's wrong or even how to ah track. Ah what might be wrong is wild.

18:28.24

mikebledsoe

Yeah I I find myself I want to get back to the tools but I like this track we're on because it makes me think about None thing I notice out in the world is um and again I think a lot of this has to do with. Ah. What a good job. My dad did raising me is I understand I didn't know that I understood how things worked better than most people and what I witness in the world now is people I watched them doing something I'm like don't do it like that you're going to fuck that thing up.

20:21.78

Max Shank

And it seems obvious to you it. It seems like I knew this when I was 8 But that's how I would be if I went to a farm the 10 year old kid would watch me doing something be like what are you? an idiot. That's not how you dig a trench like that's not how you drive a post.

19:40.66

mikebledsoe

And then it's gonna be broken or it's not gonna It's so obvious I'm like why would they do that.

19:56.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well.

20:13.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, but but when it comes down to and I look at something not not only was I taught how it's not just that I was taught how to do it. My dad did a good job in teaching me like end to end how it worked and why it worked like he was very big on the principles of like.

20:59.28

Max Shank

Dumb ass.

20:50.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, when you do this at least this this is the end result we're looking for and so I think a lot of times people are so focused on the end result that they don't They don't take the time to understand the process of how it gets there and they don't appreciate it either. So There's like ah, a really great appreciation that I have for. Ah technology because I understand enough about the ins and outs of how this thing works that um that it's I appreciate more and I can fix it quickly if I needed if needed. Um, so something I got into young as well as I got into computers I got into building computers.

22:30.32

Max Shank

Oh my God yeah.

22:04.60

mikebledsoe

And I got into running networks and yeah I can see.

22:49.22

Max Shank

You can follow the flow of energy. Basically you understand the flow of energy which is about relationships like the thing that blows my mind is there's no such thing as a thing which sounds Silly. So I'm gonna say it Again. There's no such thing as a thing because it's. Only describable in relation to other things. So if you have all of these end results and you have no idea how to track the energy flow of what's going On. It's like you're just in an ocean of darkness where you have no Clue. You're just kind of being ah, bounced around.

23:22.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's I've had us. Ah, my most recent experience of this is um, for 14 years of entrepreneurship I never did my books I always had a bookkeeper I I outsourced it heavily and one of the reasons.

24:06.12

Max Shank

By these forces.

24:35.52

Max Shank

Me too still. Do.

23:59.26

mikebledsoe

None of the reasons. Yeah what what? I stopped doing that recently one of the reasons I outsourced it heavily is because my none business partner ever what he had a ah master's in finance so he didn't even. He didn't even share I didn't even bother to look and he didn't share the profit loss the balance sheet like I really had no idea he would just tell me a thing. It was basically a thumbs up or thumbs down system and I was flying in the dark and um.

25:20.12

Max Shank

Right.

25:34.32

Max Shank

Right.

25:47.36

Max Shank

Um, which has its advantages I think has its advantages. Yeah.

25:08.74

mikebledsoe

At the end of the there were oh it. It allowed me to move really fast. So because of that business partner I was able to run barbell shrug with I didn't understand how I didn't understand the all the reporting but we were making millions of dollars a year. So.

26:23.36

Max Shank

The.

25:46.70

mikebledsoe

You know there there was a benefit now. The drawback was was when I no longer had that person and I found another I found another Cfo who also did an amazing job. But what I understood was when when that existing system ceased to be.

26:40.28

Max Shank

Right.

27:07.98

Max Shank

Her.

26:25.62

mikebledsoe

And I didn't have all the same people. It required me to understand learn things and I felt like and and this was accurate I had to go back and learn some really fundamental things about bookkeeping about accounting about ah cash flow cause really it comes down to cash flow and Cash Flow. Management and so I mean if you look at Accounting. It's I mean it's a big scam because the whole point of accounting is so you know how much to pay in taxes at the end of the day. But if you that's what that's what modern day accounting is yeah the majority of.

28:06.26

Max Shank

True True true. Yeah.

27:40.34

mikebledsoe

You know I wouldn't have to spend thousands of dollars a year on accounting if cut. Yeah, exactly yeah go. Um.

28:26.16

Max Shank

Is it counting kind of like cutting your switch for the Taxman You know you? you know if you're in trouble you have to like in your parents a real thug. They're like go cut a tree branch so I can beat you with it and that's what accounting is like.

28:11.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, go go pick out. Go pick out your switch. Yeah, ah so ah, so the way I look at it now is look I gotta count I handle the tax ship but my job is cash flow management and the way I see it.

29:14.22

Max Shank

That's the.

29:30.28

Max Shank

Which is energy management right? which comes back to relationships you got to be able to track the energy flow and the relationship from 1 point to the next just the same way you got to be able to track the gasoline from the fuel tank.

28:51.16

mikebledsoe

Is if energy management and if I.

29:11.92

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

30:09.76

Max Shank

All the way to the exhaust can you track that gasoline all the way through you're probably going to have a decent idea of how this system is working together and actually cash is really good symbol for fuel or vice versa actually like fuel and cash.

29:59.16

mikebledsoe

I Think it's a great. Ah.

30:49.80

Max Shank

And a motor is like ah you you could also think of it like a cell instead of something man-made. But actually you know an organization can be looked at as a motor or as a cell or a creature or as an ecosystem I Think the motor analogy is a little bit more. Ah, tool-based and cold and the cell analogy or like a tree or something like that. But you're still tracking the flow of energy just the same Way. You could track the flow of gasoline through a car you could track the flow of Photon Photosynthesis. Ah, through a tree and you can understand the water and how the carbon dioxide from the air is converted into sugar through this process like you can understand the energy flow and transformation and cash flow is kind of the same thing you're understanding. How energy is transformed through that organism or organization which is your business.

32:10.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and and um, you're spot on I mean I like the the classic car mechanical analogy because it is so much simpler and so that's a great place to start if you start with the complexity of a cell. You know, now there's ah it exactly? Yeah, not. That's that's advanced I mean I think that is a great analogy but in the beginning if you don't understand the cash flow which is.

33:38.98

Max Shank

Our sales team is the Mitochondria and it's like wait wait. What? no.

33:29.11

mikebledsoe

Can you look at your profit loss. Can you look at your bash your balance sheet and your cash flow reporting like if you can't look at those and those tell you a story that make that they go Oh I know now how to make it doesn't It won't inform you on how to make all the decisions in your business. It's not gonna.

34:44.80

Max Shank

Right.

34:06.34

mikebledsoe

Gonna tell you who to hire. But it's gonna tell you what position to hire for right? And so um and people at the highest levels are making most of the decisions based on the numbers the higher up you get in your in your thinking and your business is that now here's the thing about I've learned about money. Is that I am um I'm in charge of the cash flow of my own cash flow management and the better I can manage what I currently have the more I'll be able to manage in the future If You think that. Adding more Cash. Ah I think most people walk around and I used to I used to walk around thinking like this if I just had more money then I'd be able to save and invest and I'd be I'd be a better steward of the money I had if there were more pete. That's what people.

36:36.54

Max Shank

If only.

36:00.58

mikebledsoe

That's what people believe but the truth is is if you become what is.

36:49.96

Max Shank

It's a very protective phrase it if only I had something then I could do this other thing If only if only I Yeah, it's it's perfect. Yes, very protective. Yeah no I'm I'm good.

36:19.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's conditional and it's outside of yourself. You're not responsible for it. Yeah yeah.

37:23.48

Max Shank

I'm not I'm barely even related to this this dream here I have nothing to do with it. So it's related to something else. My my dream. My dream is related to the breeze.

36:51.40

mikebledsoe

Ah, yes, so this false belief is what keeps people in this this cycle of defeat in regard to to money is because. They don't understand how it flows because they're afraid to look at it. There's an emotional response to being present with the money. Step None is check your bank account every day now that doesn't tell you the whole story It's just a snapshot in time. But if you start doing that and then you learn about bookkeeping and you learn about. Ah. And you learn about cash flow management. You start getting to a more advanced conversation about cash flow. It is it can be in my experience. It's been incredibly painful in the short term. It's it's it can be frustrating. It takes way more time than I think it should take I sit down.

39:15.80

Max Shank

Like organizing the garage for me. But but once you get the the nuts and bolts in the same place and once you get the drill and the saw and the sandpaper and the grinders and the chisels all in their own like place.

38:39.92

mikebledsoe

Like organizing the garage.

39:52.28

Max Shank

Then you look at this organized grid and like I was telling you before we started this show. It's ah it's never been something ah that I have had as a work environment I have just thrived in chaos as soon as something urgent comes up I go into a. Hurricane of activity and I relentlessly pursue this thing ignoring everything else. But as you know I'm 34 now I'm appreciating more and more the clarity of having a clean. Space and a tightly organized Ah Toolbox ah tool shed garage workshop all that stuff and I think that understanding ah like we say you know as within so without same thing with the organization of. Your tools which are basically ah levers to amplify your energy or refocus your energy conversion same thing with the business. It's do you have everything tightly organized so you can really see what you need to see so you can know. When it's right to use which tool available to you? Um I Like to think of that energy flow also from a ah customer flow Standpoint. There's always this flow of customers who um.

41:45.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

42:59.46

Max Shank

You know you just capture their attention and that's the top layer of that funnel and the reason the funnel analogy works so well is because it has like gravity involved into it and there's this effortlessness where things just flow down into the funnel and it's this ah mathematical.

42:17.84

mikebledsoe

O.

43:37.64

Max Shank

Reduction to a focal point that um, it really describes um a nat a pretty natural probability curve too. But if you ah understand like how many people. You're capturing their attention. How many people you're keeping their attention because that's a form of energy your your attention is like I'm going to be bold here. Your attention is like Quantum energy because there is no math that can describe I mean maybe there is. There's no math that can really describe the potential power and force that can be driven ah through a person's Attention. So I think understanding how the flow of the attention of your customers and also eventually the cash of your customers is really important. For deciding which tools to use next. Do you hire a different marketing department. Do you need someone to work on ads. Do you need someone to ah improve the actual product itself because you get None of people who see it but then everyone hates it I mean it's so much easier to see. What to do next and I think uncertainty is really useful and of course the natural quality of life is uncertainty. We like to kid ourselves like we know what's going to happen next month.

45:53.14

mikebledsoe

The ah anything that's certain is ah is illusory. Yeah, the trick we plan ourselves to make ourselves feel safe so that we can actually get shit done If yeah.

46:44.66

Max Shank

Right? But but the more but but it does feel. Yeah and it does feel safer when we know more stuff like the illusion is useful. You know if we didn't have that illusion. We could not have this weekly appointment that I have found very.

46:34.58

mikebledsoe

Absolutely not? yeah.

47:22.82

Max Shank

That I have found very enriching We have to both believe the lie of next fucking monday.

46:50.86

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well the live that there's days of the week for one wait. Not yeah, but um, but it's it's a useful to useful belief to use it very confident.

47:43.96

Max Shank

Right? And that there will be a next one I feel pretty confident that we will talk again next week but what's that confidence based on. It's not based on certainty. What's that.

47:30.24

mikebledsoe

Um, I mean I be ah well look I the way another something I find very useful is attention is the most important thing because I love what Tony Robbins says which is where your attention goes energy flows and.

48:21.52

Max Shank

Voodoo.

48:46.94

Max Shank

Right.

48:09.52

mikebledsoe

Incredibly accurate. Here's the thing your energy is flowing all the time. No matter what it is moving and flowing and your attention is dictating where it goes and so a lot of times the the hardest thing for someone to do the the highest amount of effort. To get something going is to make the choice to do it to change the inertia of the moment. Oh I'm lying in bed right now. But I I want to go for a walk I Want to go work out the hardest part of starting to work out is actually putting on. Your gym clothes and walking into the gym and doing the None movement. That's the hardest part after that working out's enjoyable sometimes going to bed is hard to do. But once you get in bed. You're glad you're there. It's because we are.

50:31.96

Max Shank

And then.

49:57.28

mikebledsoe

Constantly choosing where our tension is at the energy is moving. So I think that I didn't get.

50:47.74

Max Shank

Or or we're just scratching an itch like the the itch becomes enough that we get up and scratch it and that's that's really all it is is you're waiting for a painful enough catalyst and and and then you could argue that nothing is difficult.

50:25.94

mikebledsoe

It's painful enough enough pain.

51:25.44

Max Shank

It's just that you have this sensation of things you do want to do this sensation of things You don't want to do and if you don't want to do it. The pain has to be very significant and if you already want to do it. The pain could be almost nothing.

51:13.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and you know we're surrounded by people who try to warn us about the the incoming pain they say you know if you keep doing things this way then the pain. The pain is gonna get really big but you don't you don't believe it. You don't believe it and then.

52:18.22

Max Shank

Oh my oh my god I hate that I hate that um it make okay Jesus oh god.

51:52.80

mikebledsoe

And then one day they're fucking right? They you're like oh the pain is really outrageous now Oh had I only listened and made a different choice a little bit sooner I'd experience less pain right now. It's a good teacher.

52:58.34

Max Shank

Regrets. But how do you? How do you? determine fact from fiction like like rightfully so rightfully so an orthopedic surgeon could say don't do jujitsu. The risk is not worth it.

52:28.76

mikebledsoe

What what you got it. We got it.

52:45.24

mikebledsoe

Totally totally.

53:31.58

Max Shank

You're going to hurt yourself and you could a ah like hurt yourself badly and be like oh I should've listened to that guy or or you might not, you might have you know 40 years of fun and family and camaraderie not hurt yourself. Or see a combination of both. You could have this community and family and quality that you love and totally fuck yourself up and go you know what? I think that was still worth it. I mean look people still do Crossfit Pretty aggressively beyond their capacity and frankly.

53:43.56

mikebledsoe

You still have.

54:43.74

Max Shank

Whatever Kinks you're into exercise-wise powerlifting Olympic lifting I'm a bit of a tennis nut at the moment. It doesn't matter your flavor. Um, but as long as you're willing to pay the price who am I to say that you shouldn't pay that price because if you're getting a lot more out of something.

54:38.64

mikebledsoe

Um, ah.

55:22.52

Max Shank

Community Family activity. Even if you're ah, harming yourself to some extent Maybe as long as you think it's worth the price. You know who am I to say.

54:56.58

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well deciding who you're going to listen to who gives you the advice right? like like like an like an orthopedic surgeon telling you not to do jijitsu First you have to consider they're coming at you from an orthopedic surgeon perspective.

55:51.84

Max Shank

So tough.

55:34.70

mikebledsoe

Who probably doesn't do jujitsu and they're looking at you and going look I can I can tell you that this can be a ah poor choice in the ah in the realm of ah your bone and joint health you know and you go Okay, but what about all the other benefits.

56:45.58

Max Shank

Oh. Right? And you can't calculate. It. It's unknowable. That's why decision making is so tough.

56:14.52

mikebledsoe

You know that might come along with it and so so so so there's 2 ways that you can learn None is you can just wait for things to be so painful that you figure it out and you learn that way and or you could listen to other people now. We have and ah some people are yeah well you can also but here's the thing is it's not just you don't want to just listen to anybody right? you guys? What would you have is.

57:37.38

Max Shank

So through Belief or experience.

57:54.40

Max Shank

Ah, no, no, no, no, but but you can learn those two ways you can believe someone or you can experience it firsthand.

57:24.56

mikebledsoe

Totally totally and so you got to be careful about who you believe and you you got to go with their track record right? And so this is one of the things that I notice is that this is one of the this where wisdom is missing So wisdom can be passed down.

58:16.56

Max Shank

Yeah, no shit.

58:03.80

mikebledsoe

Or it can be developed by yourself and the problem is is that people are listening to people who have very poor track records and it's very fucking true and so a lot of times. Ah.

58:49.52

Max Shank

The.

59:07.82

Max Shank

Ah, yeah.

58:38.96

mikebledsoe

For instance, someone might listen to you know I won't get into anything that's too controversial. But yeah, the last couple years there was a lot of people giving advice from a place of authority that was that were obvious that they were not in alignment.

59:26.48

Max Shank

It's got to be a fable for that or something.

59:45.36

Max Shank

Bold claims.

59:17.34

mikebledsoe

Personally with the advice they were giving ah it was obvious that these were policies that were being passed down from a political perspective not due to science or or true ah medicine right? so.

01:00:24.38

Max Shank

Um, you mean Hypocrisy hypocrisy.

59:54.90

mikebledsoe

So but then I I look at a guy like Paul check and I go and ah, most people look at what Paul check says if they listen what he says a go that guy's fucking crazy I don't know how you could listen to that guy and I go. Ah.

01:01:06.42

Max Shank

Um, is that what most people say Ah, ah.

01:00:32.62

mikebledsoe

Yeah, if you introduce him to a mainstream person I'm talking about the mainstream people they they listen to them. They're like they're like man they may not say he's they may not say he's wrong, but they feel like he's extreme right? and and he is to you know he he's hes all in on the lifestyle.

01:01:47.12

Max Shank

He's he's beyond its extreme. It's incredible to see Actually you know the library and the the rocks and the the water charging and electric she and he is like this is what I'm doing I'm going to do this all day every day.

01:01:31.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well he he's the.

01:02:22.60

Max Shank

And this is what I got and very unapologetic I think he's ah, a really, He's a really cool cat. You know he's He's all in on that thing.

01:01:50.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, and I'm not I'd say I'm on board with him for 98% of it and you know just every once when I'm like and not really for me. Not gonna fault him for. But yeah, like like who am I but um, but that's the guy listened to.

01:02:52.84

Max Shank

Um, yeah, he's a wizard. Right.

01:02:30.48

mikebledsoe

Like if I want health advice I listen to him I listen to Alex Rachinski he's one of ah Paul Chick's top guys.

01:03:17.90

Max Shank

So you got to be careful who you trust because you can make a ton of benefit trusting the right person like I got to trust you or someone like you to fix my car if you trust the wrong person to fix your car car's going to be fucked up. It's going to cost you a lot of money same thing with your body if someone's like hey.

01:02:53.78

mikebledsoe

Right.

01:03:56.30

Max Shank

You know, don't eat bananas because they have too much sugar. Maybe you believe that and you never have a banana and that's maybe not going to hurt you but you may be missing out so there it can be a negative. It can be just removing of a positive.

01:03:24.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we got look Yeah, we look at be one ways is track records but the other thing is also a lot of times people I think people are searching for that perfect mentor like this person has everything that I want and that's probably not going to happen and.

01:04:53.48

Max Shank

Oo yeah, the perfect teacher I'm just waiting I'm gonna I'm gonna really get it together once I find the perfect teacher see the problem Mike is I don't have a good role model I got all these guys that are like 90% role models. But it's just not enough for me to try anything yet. But.

01:04:28.74

mikebledsoe

A.

01:05:27.42

Max Shank

I Know the right guy is out there when I find him.

01:04:46.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so what I but I um I saw a a psychic once and she said stop looking for a mentor. There aren't any for you. You're gonna be your own and and I was like okay, whatever and um.

01:05:54.32

Max Shank

Oh yeah.

01:05:26.12

mikebledsoe

And and but it did get me thinking and I go you know there is no one person who really is living the lifestyle that I want to live like there's like if I really sit and dream about what's my ideal Lifestyle. No One's doing it now. There are people who have figured out the business stuff. Are people who figured out the health stuff they have figured out the things that I'm interested in but they I don't know anyone who's figured out the business side and the health side and the family side and all these things. Yeah except for max. Yeah, That's why you're here, but um, ah the.

01:06:47.80

Max Shank

It's very exciting.

01:07:05.60

Max Shank

Um, except for me except for me obviously. Is that is that a dig at both of us that we're that we're here Talking. He's like it's like you're such a loser. You're here talking to me. Ah.

01:06:44.72

mikebledsoe

Are.

01:07:01.74

mikebledsoe

So My my what I started doing I was like I was like look I'm gonna just learn about business from this guy I don't you know what? if he starts talking about anything that's not business grain assault it doesn't mean I'm gonna stop listening but I understand that he's the expert in this. And I'm gonna take from that he may be great. There's so many people who are really good at business and some of the health advice they give is really good for someone who's just obese and out of shape. But you know like they're not giving me health advice and someone who is some of the the top people in Health I mean you know you know this as well Like. Don't listen them for business advice at all and you want the relationships totally.

01:09:06.38

Max Shank

Or or relationship advice or you know language communication skills I mean you know you gotta separate the trait from the the persona like this mask that people like people just wear this mask and they're like I'm this guy I'm.

01:08:47.58

mikebledsoe

E.

01:09:45.84

Max Shank

This is my character.. What do you think?? Ah, the last thing you want to do because then you get trapped two ways. Ah you'll dislike some people so ah, aggressively. That you'll ignore what they say even if they say something really wise that would be super helpful for you. So I think I'm actually quite good at this because I dislike so many. No I'm just kidding but you have to be able to separate the bit of information that is being.

01:09:35.76

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, have the um.

01:10:49.84

Max Shank

Sent to you that you are receiving the message that you're receiving from the messenger. It's like don't kill the messenger but hey look don't glorify him either and that's maybe the the key to messaging in general is you don't want to glorify but you also don't want to kill the messenger and it should.

01:10:21.26

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, um.

01:11:26.14

Max Shank

You want to try to separate it from how you feel about the ah the persona or the the mask um it it makes me think of ancient Egypt. Of course where they would do trials in the dark so you couldn't be swayed by knowing who was who ah so.

01:11:14.80

mikebledsoe

Move.

01:12:04.20

Max Shank

I Think that's really important but certainly ah.

01:11:30.58

mikebledsoe

It's a skill. It's a skill to develop is to not throw the baby out with the bathwater and I I um I ah yeah I was talking to Ashley the other day I was like I'm she's like.

01:12:22.64

Max Shank

It's like a ego release I don't like that guy So I'm gonna reject him.

01:12:06.16

mikebledsoe

Man you you tend to get a lot of hard cases like I'm I'm very good at dealing with difficult men men who tend to be you know? Ah,, there's something that's that's wounded or there's some like heavy. Ah, ego or whatever it is. They're real heavy and something and they they tend they um they tend to they tend to turn a lot of people off. But for some reason I have the patience to sit through some of the bullshit or.

01:13:34.80

Max Shank

Feels like I'm being attacked right now.

01:13:19.54

mikebledsoe

You know, a lot of the the what's guarded in order to get to the gold and I was like yeah think that like like I I'm not quick to and a lot of it just comes down to Judgment. It's like yeah I'm I'm really just always looking for the good and everybody and. And not that they're a good person but that they have something that is of value I look for the value in every single person because I know that every single person they know something deeply that I I don't know yet and ah everything about who they are is what has created that.

01:15:01.72

Max Shank

Oh.

01:14:34.60

mikebledsoe

That possibility from that for them to have that Knowledge. So for me to judge all parts of them before I get to that nugget would it would keep me from finding it but also like coming from a place of appreciating like the reason a guy you know. But try to stay away from naming names. But the reason some of these people that they're they're kind of crazy in a lot of ways. They're not.. They're not mainstream, but the the gold is with the people who are so outside they're outliers that most people can't understand or get along with them.

01:16:05.20

Max Shank

Crazy compared to what I mean they're all relative terms. But I think that's.

01:16:24.80

Max Shank

The freaks the freaks the teslas you know the person the the ah marcones they're like hey what do you think if we like vibrate something through the air across the atlantic and they're like yeah that sounds that would be really nice if we could send messages.

01:15:48.12

mikebledsoe

But free. Yeah.

01:17:03.82

Max Shank

Across this gigantic Ocean. They're like yeah,, let's let's try it out like the freaks are where you get like the really juicy Gold. It's like we all get a shovel and if you dig one hole your entire Life. You're going to dig a lot deeper into that topic or you can dig a bunch of different holes. Like I'll dig a tennis hole over here I'll dig a fitness hole over here I'll dig a you know philosophy hole over here and like a nietzsche hole and a young and you know you're digging all these holes but the people who only dig one hole and they go all the way down they go as deep as they can. With this fucking topic I speak from personal experience because while I have a lot of diverse interests. It All does come back to energy transformation whether it's tennis where we're like I'm literally transforming the ah energy of my body. Transferring it into the ball when I'm playing music same thing I'm basically turning sausages into sound with my fingers. So I eat sausages I get the energy to move my fingers. It makes noise. It's incredible. But. I have spent such a tremendous amount of time in ah fitness and Health ah pain Mobility Strength athleticism that I feel a little crazy about it and you can't help Um, but. Feel compassion for people who are just barely into the Journey. You know you realize like are they bad? Are they good. It's like they're on a different path even if they're on the same path as you they're either ahead or behind or left or right it's um, it's It's all compassion related that allows you. To let people feel free and open to let that energy out because usually it's an energy blockage and that's what the ego is the ego is like an energy trap and it it captures some of the shit right? you and I have a conversation. And it's basically 1 plus 1 makes 3 because it's you and I and now there's this ah Harmony or resonance between us and it could be more dissonant or it could be more resonant and harmonious. But it's this third, it's this. Third thing that is the relationship between those entities and if you say something I like or you just say nice things about me. Maybe my ego filter will like capture those things I'll be like ah I'm gonna I'm gonna store this energy up now and it's usually not conscious.

01:21:35.28

mikebledsoe

A.

01:22:35.68

Max Shank

Which things we store and which things we don't but it can ah it can direct the flow and it can also plug the flow if you get too much ego in there. So the ego diverts the flow but it can also clog it up a little bit.

01:22:25.38

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, agreed I want to shift back because I never finished one point that I got what is extremely practical for people and that is started saying that.

01:23:11.92

Max Shank

That's kind of how I think of it.

01:23:02.20

mikebledsoe

When you were talking about being able to go back and rebuild your toolset and I did that because I went nomadic didn't have anything and I've since purchased a house three months ago and I rented a house for twelve months in Austin Texas and. It was I still didn't a it didn't feel like home didn't I didn't feel very permanent I really couldn't do anything to the House. So I I didn't accumulate any new tools there but in the last three months of owning a home I have a i.

01:24:37.30

Max Shank

A.

01:24:12.46

mikebledsoe

I've been very selective about which tools I buy because I walk into home Depot now and I want to buy everything I'm like oh I know what this could be used for I Know what this could be used for. But I yeah but that's that's the um.

01:25:09.52

Max Shank

That's what I did I was like supermarket sweep I was like hustling around there with a shopping cart just throwing stuff in the thing.

01:24:49.40

mikebledsoe

That's that's the warrior energy. Um Paul check had this conversation with me Doug and anders and he talked yeah, the the warrior tries to fucking kill everything and and part of that is he tries to accumulate the the warrior doesn't isn't worried about boundaries.

01:25:45.66

Max Shank

Hoarding.

01:25:25.80

mikebledsoe

He wants to see how big he can build the empire. How much can I accomplish how much can I accumulate The warrior is trying to accumulate and accomplish as much as possible. Yeah, it's the end and then and then when you move into the King Archetype What? you.

01:26:28.60

Max Shank

It's like the inhale.

01:26:01.42

mikebledsoe

What you move into is you and you realize how much energy is needed to maintain. Ah all of those new those boundaries. It's like oh I could go weigh the fuck over there but do I want to build a wall that far out and then have to protect.

01:27:15.96

Max Shank

Manage it.

01:26:38.94

mikebledsoe

And manage everything inside that wall and so a good king when when Matures well goes. You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna draw a boundary that's inside of my ability to manage it and this goes back to money management too. It's like living within your means is a really good practical application of this. Spend less than you make and so the the War The the warrior will walk into home Depot and fill the basket with a bunch of stuff that he thinks he may need ah for some future project because there's an idea but when you when someone gets in the King Archetype which.

01:28:04.60

Max Shank

Seems simple.

01:27:56.30

mikebledsoe

Like it's funny because I I heard this and as I've you know in the last couple years I've I've felt myself moving into it and I think that especially especially in the the spiritual community right now people are like talking about Kings and queens and all this in in the woooo community.

01:29:07.88

Max Shank

I Prefer to be a thought of as a God King is a little lower I wanted to be like the emperor of exercise for a while but it didn't really satisfy my craving for divine power. So I'm skipping I was warrior for a long time Emperor king.

01:28:34.94

mikebledsoe

A.

01:29:01.50

mikebledsoe

Well I think what's important when we think about archetypes is you're you are able to ah cultivate the energy of that archetype you are not that archetype don't don't let the ego get confused and that you're not a King you're not.

01:29:45.14

Max Shank

Not really my speed. So.

01:30:20.58

Max Shank

It's like putting on a persona.

01:29:40.96

mikebledsoe

You're not a warrior you are you are inhabiting the energy of a warrior you are inhabiting and so I think that's it's you're playing a character. It's It's a really healthy place to approach psychologically because it allows you to be much more agile in your thinking and your ability to to.

01:30:38.60

Max Shank

You're playing a character almost.

01:30:20.24

mikebledsoe

Show up the way is needed for the the moment people who get stuck in 1 identity you know thing it works for a while and then it becomes troublesome but going back to the.

01:31:19.44

Max Shank

Well to be a good Tactician you need to be able to put yourself in the perspective of the other entities involved in your campaign. So let's say No yeah I mean.

01:30:56.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, if you're ever gonna get to that point where you're actually working strategy like you're gonna get to the you're gonna be able to happen. Yeah, well this is why if you read a king warrior magician lover in order to get to the to a really well suited King Archetype and be able to.

01:31:54.34

Max Shank

Isn't all life that.

01:31:36.60

mikebledsoe

Energize that well is you have to have really explored the other archetypes because you have to understand how to have command over them. Um, and so um, so for for myself instead of walking in the home depot the last few months and

01:32:35.56

Max Shank

A he.

01:32:12.94

mikebledsoe

I've I wanted to there was the thought oh I could get this. This would be really good for this project I should get this for whatever I said no only and my girlfriend did the same that she was like she's like what don't you get the thing you know I can tell you want to get I'm like like yeah but I'm not gonna use it today and home depot is 5 minutes from my house.

01:33:03.80

Max Shank

Right.

01:33:23.18

Max Shank

Yeah, boom.

01:32:49.96

mikebledsoe

So it's not like you know and I know that there's there's a store near you too. It's not like you have to travel hours away to get your shit and now we got Amazon prime. Yeah, but yeah, and so now I just get I've been getting the tools that I really need.

01:33:47.88

Max Shank

You can order it online. Also you can order almost any tool.

01:33:28.88

mikebledsoe

For what I for that day that week. Whatever it is whatever project and only the ones I need and if I can borrow it and it's easy to get my hands on it I'll do that first because I may only need it once and so I've been slowly accumulating tools. So one of the things I've done is I've stuck with 1 brand for all my power tools.

01:34:33.00

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:34:46.16

Max Shank

I did the same ah, that's what I do I like the color it makes me feel cool. It makes me feel cool to have a drill that is like good enough for a contractor to use all day and I use it for 4 minutes every three weeks

01:34:07.56

mikebledsoe

Um, and I just I go with the wall and I oh sweet they and.

01:34:36.00

mikebledsoe

Exactly exactly. Ah.

01:35:23.24

Max Shank

You know I have this like heavy duty I have this heavy duty like Twisty gun with this five amp hour battery twenty is so aggressive for what I usually use it for but I love having like buy once cry once get like one good.

01:35:04.92

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:35:59.12

Max Shank

Tool especially for the core group. Ps yeah ah.

01:35:18.14

mikebledsoe

Well, that's what that's what I like about that's what I like about duwalt like my dad always taught him is like get craftsman hammers because if you break the if you break the the handle on it. They replace it for free. Lifetime warranties on those things and then de walt I looked at the guarantees I shopped around I had a couple who were like oh you should get Riob I'm like have but the guarantee is not nearly as good as de waltz.

01:36:44.64

Max Shank

And it depends on the person like if you go all riobi. You'll probably be fine. Um, if you want to go like see something really cool. There's actually a Youtube channel called project farm and he does these tests of tools and they're incredible.

01:36:39.14

mikebledsoe

Project Farm okay

01:37:22.36

Max Shank

He is really a project farm new video every Sunday guys the man he basically goes through a whole battery of tests. So. It's like a 10 to 20 minute long video. It looks like they take him ah like twenty forty hours to make per video. It's so. Brutal because he'll you know test different tools in like None different ways and really objective so he shows you what kind of wear and tear they can handle can they be left out in the rain for a week. What kind of rust if it really good so getting the right tool is a big point for this ah some some cheap ass tools are just as good if not better than the expensive ones so you don't always get what you pay for ah, the other thing I would say is even.

01:37:52.48

mikebledsoe

Down.

01:38:03.82

mikebledsoe

Um. Yeah.

01:39:12.46

Max Shank

Gosh Even if you don't think you're very craft mine minded or craft. Ah crafty I was trying to not say crafty I was like ah you know? ah.

01:38:49.96

mikebledsoe

Crafty. I I knew you wanted to say it I had to give you permission.

01:39:49.48

Max Shank

A little bit of that ah feels really nice. Um, and maybe it's just maybe it's just because I don't do it very often. But every time I go into the workshop and start building things. You just get into this flow and you know the creative force is.

01:39:11.78

mikebledsoe

Really good.

01:40:27.38

Max Shank

Is such a ah powerful Energy. So the connection with ah the work that you do and the attention that you put into something and the result is is really neat. It doesn't have to be Woodworking. You could build stuff out of clay you could. Ah, make stuff out of legos I mean they're all different ways you do macrame That's pretty fun.

01:40:27.34

mikebledsoe

Well, there's there's something primal about I think building something that has utility and that anytime I build something that that like woodworking man it just turns my my girlfriend on so much and that like and it's.

01:41:40.20

Max Shank

Then you take her to the woodshed.

01:41:04.64

mikebledsoe

That's right, but it's um, it The fact that ignites something in her. It's like and then that that then feeds back into me I'm like I'm like oh I did something fucking. You know, impressive and because I mean everything that we do is men is really for women you know women are. And are definitely in charge of this whole thing. Yeah.

01:42:29.32

Max Shank

It's all for sex the more I think about it the more I like what? why are we? Why are we trying to get food so we can have sex later. Why are we trying to run away from the tiger. So we can have sex later. That's it why? Why are we building this.

01:42:09.58

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah, was it supposed to Pat.

01:43:02.64

Max Shank

This big nest to attract a female so we can have sex. It's it's ah it's all about sex across the board. All the fighting is for sex. It's is crazy. Ah, but that's the how else could it be That's light and dark connecting.

01:42:27.52

mikebledsoe

Um, sex and it's crazy. Yeah.

01:42:52.42

mikebledsoe

What's ah, that's how we got here as ah, that's all a human human race continues on.

01:43:35.24

Max Shank

That's the vibration of everything. Evolution evolution is God's savage boredom playing out. Basically it's it's this this divine creation. Not divine necessarily but the force of creation who knows the Tao Darkness some some sort of thing. There. It's ah it's just it's just dancing on and offs at different levels and it's somehow perfectly Fair. You know what? I mean like the the forces are perfectly fair when you think about how different creatures have organized themselves some are spiky.

01:43:54.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:45:02.26

Max Shank

Some are armored some are venomous. It's all just about ah energy management right? Some are really fast. Some are really so like a tortoise versus ah I don't know like a Hummingbird tortoise lives way longer.

01:44:31.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:44:56.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah now. Yeah.

01:45:40.64

Max Shank

Relatively speaking is a very interesting thing but so it all comes back to energy management and tools are a way to gain leverage and focus that energy we can actually focus it in like ah like a pickaxe. Something like that. So we can focus energy down to a finer point or we can focus it on to ah a much larger area like a mallet or something like that and using the right tool for the job is is pretty big.

01:46:01.60

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah I would find the same thing in the kitchen I witnessed people trying to cook something. They don't have the right type of pan. They don't have the right knives The knives aren't sharp the you know they don't have the right spatula like like people.

01:47:16.10

Max Shank

It's a hodgepodge.

01:46:37.52

mikebledsoe

People who don't like to cook usually don't have a great kitchen and if you put somebody if yeah if I put somebody who doesn't like to cook in my house for a month and we started cooking together I bet you they start liking to cook because they go.

01:47:31.60

Max Shank

Chicken or the egg right? ah.

01:47:14.00

mikebledsoe

Oh it's actually really easy. Yeah, you just do this and then you do this and then it's very low effort. Yeah, you can get exactly what you want and yeah have some music playing. Yeah.

01:48:00.48

Max Shank

Can always get exactly what you want easy to modify have a bunch of different sauces handy when when I cook. That's how I like to do it I like to give a few options make it really modular like I get the. Couple meats get a couple breads get a couple sauces mix and match Boom Boom Boom We're off track. Let's bring it. Let's bring it home. Okay, so the topic again was tools and skills. We talked about role models which is kind of a cool. Um.

01:48:00.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah I think we nail the topics fairly. Well yeah I was bring a home tools and skills.

01:49:15.26

Max Shank

Way to bring it all together. Um not necessarily lumping the the practitioner with the skill that you're trying to learn right? That's that's a big that's a big one.

01:48:57.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, like like ah, choosing who you learn from wisely. You know, understanding what they're an expert at what they're not an expert at. Um, sticking with just the things that an expert at and then also judging how much of an expert they are at that thing based on their track record and if you can find somebody has a track record that's decades old you're doing pretty fucking Good. So But yeah in regard that.

01:50:31.94

Max Shank

Yeah, it's good to be objective. Yeah, ah basically you're talking about who who to choosing who to trust which ah, that's a big one for any relationship right.

01:49:56.40

mikebledsoe

How to choose a ah wise elder.

01:50:07.60

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah. Yeah, so mentor Mentee so we're gonna pick up a lot. You know you could either fumble through and try to figure things out for yourself which you will do a lot of that. That's that's gonna be ever present in your life. You should always be you know. How much time did I in the last year did I spend in Quickbooks just fumbling around and doing things and then seeing the report and going and then realizing oh I should categorize this like this and because I want my report to look like this and it took a lot of fumbling around. While also having a mentor for the whole thing so it was a mix of the two is a mix of getting some instruction from someone who's got decades of experience that has proof in the pudding and then also fumbling around a lot myself and then realizing that this is one of the things that's like really great about being older.

01:52:32.98

Max Shank

The fumbling is fun.

01:52:45.86

Max Shank

Oh shit, he's older now appeal to authority old man I'm old listen to me I'm old. That's what you sound like Mike Trust trust me I'm old trust me I'm old.

01:52:05.44

mikebledsoe

Is I now I now have a history of I have enough History. Ah. Ah, it's true though you should listen listen up listen up. Well you know there there are some people who are 40 that haven't really paid attention maybe shouldn't listen to them I think I've paid attention to about half of my life. So I'm doing okay, but. I Think that with age comes the perspective and that I now understand how long it takes to learn something to be actually skilled at it for me exactly and so and so like it used to I used to believe that I should be able.

01:54:00.38

Max Shank

For you? Yeah, totally.

01:53:38.40

mikebledsoe

This happens with athletes all the time they get in the gym I want to squat £500 like you do squat £300 right now. It's gonna take you maybe years to get to 500 and they're like no I'll get there faster like £5 a week times so many weeks and and maybe but but um, but what i.

01:54:45.16

Max Shank

Maybe yeah.

01:54:16.34

mikebledsoe

What I look at is I mean I miscalculate my progress constantly and in the wait room.

01:55:06.22

Max Shank

I Always calculate my progress perfectly. What do you think of that this is all working exactly as I planned talking to you.

01:54:32.88

mikebledsoe

Ah, so. So the so but I realize how how long it takes me to learn something and so I give myself so much more grace and which is interesting is because when I give myself grace and I give myself. A lot of time to learn something and even when I went through this financial course they were like you should be able to get through this in this amount of time and I I So came back to them within a couple weeks after looking at the content I go. It's gonna take me about twice as long and part of it is I Really like to get into the content I don't want to just pass over it.

01:56:34.74

Max Shank

People are different too I know exactly what you're talking about I am the same way and the the reaction the ego reaction when I try to learn something new. A lot of the time especially in the workshop is holy fuck I'm retarded I am so so.

01:55:56.28

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:57:11.62

Max Shank

I am so stupid I can't build a box. How am I going to build this fucking box and I'm drawing stuff on a piece of paper and I'm like I can't make 3 dimensions on a None dimensional paper I don't know how to fucking draw this thing and then so I'm here I'm like in my garage sweating suffering thinking. Um, how fucking stupid am I that I can't make a square I can't do it I can draw a square but the idea of manufacture. So what I ended up doing is I took a bunch of tiny planks and I learned about the relationship of pieces of wood. By thickness width and length and I made these boards that have a one ah for thickness to None to width and None to length and I learned how they fit together not thinking of the dimensions as um. Metrics that we normally use like ah imperial or metric I thought of them as ratios and figured out how to put stuff and it wasn't until I held these boards in my hands and actually glued some of them together these tiny little ah ratio.

01:58:33.60

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah.

01:58:50.74

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:59:49.24

Max Shank

Ah, tester board like I I want to like give the other retarded kids who might feel like me some of these boards because it wasn't until I made these that I was like oh that's how you can factor in the thickness to join stuff together. But I so resonate with you because I also like to go deep into a topic. And if I just kind of ah glance through it I just feel stupid I feel so far behind it's it's it's Crazy. It's crazy how how like dumb I feel but then this is where it's cool because what you said is awesome. That is what allows you to have.

01:59:59.70

mikebledsoe

Ah, accurate. Well.

02:01:04.90

Max Shank

Compassion for others is when you're fumbling around and you're like God if I'm like this like maybe it's It's differently hard for other people to to do other stuff because you know words are tools also and most people um, not only talk shit but they talk like shit.

02:00:44.34

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

02:01:41.88

Max Shank

Can't express themselves very well at all and should you like blame them and shame them or should you recognize that they've just had this working pattern for a really long time and it really changes the perspective.

02:01:19.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

02:02:19.68

Max Shank

That was a good one.

02:01:38.88

mikebledsoe

That was a good one. Yeah, so so you're gonna fumble around listen to listen to people who have good track records and yeah, really I think one of the key points you brought home was pay attention.

02:02:30.16

Max Shank

Ladies and gentlemen.

02:02:14.22

mikebledsoe

Energy ins and outs and everything in between so people normally see how that you know they know how to put gas in the gas tank and they know to push the pedal and steer the car and that's usually where the knowledge ends and if you want to have a ah. Ah, deeper understanding of it I think that's a good way to approach it when it comes to money when it comes to cars when it comes to the plumbing in your house. Um, yeah, yeah I had somebody. You know, screw some up with the plumbing in my house I'm like how did you get? How did you do that? It's like you know you shoot and put that.

02:04:06.00

Max Shank

There.

02:03:30.34

mikebledsoe

There and they're like why I go oh because they'll get stuck down the pipe to today then they're like oh I didn't think about that I was like oh I realized they didn't think about the entire system of plumbing. They've existed on the planet for 30 years and never thought about it. But now they will um but ah yeah I think I think we. That's a good Let's get a little cap on this.

02:04:52.44

Max Shank

Yeah I I love it man um you want to step one understand the flow of energy and the path and the components involved and step 2 is you want to learn how to manage.

02:04:42.28

mikebledsoe

Um, a is it is.

02:05:28.98

Max Shank

That energy flow cash flow conversation flow um managing the flow of energy using tools in the physical world like on a piece of wood or managing the flow of energy using the tools called words to direct the flow of attention which is perhaps the most. Ah, powerful energy because it is full on quantum as it relates to our human conspiracy called language and um, you know use the right tool for the job you can significantly amplify the output energy versus the input energy using. Leverage and that that's that's it folks that was awesome I had so much fun talking about that today I had so much fun building shit I I built this box. It was indestructible for my buddy oners I called a strong man pinata I made him climb up a tree.

02:06:08.14

mikebledsoe

Beautifully said beautifully said. Yeah yeah.

02:06:30.54

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:07:26.76

Max Shank

To grab a sledgehammer and then I locked this box that I built and this box was like bombproof. It was like one inch thick plywood on all sides with 2 by 4 s reinforcing the inside. It was so fucking na he hit it like a none times and that. It would not break so I had to ah take it off the chains and put it on the ground then he could finally hit it against something but it was it was so much fun. Another box.

02:07:39.42

mikebledsoe

What was inside.

02:07:52.78

mikebledsoe

Um, very clever.

02:08:37.72

Max Shank

Ah, and then ah and then a little piece of paper with a clue. There was nothing for him except go to the next step in the but it was awesome. Ah, anyway it was. It was so good. Um.

02:08:09.48

mikebledsoe

Ah, oh so it's just a piece of the scavenger hunt. Okay, got it.

02:09:16.70

Max Shank

Anyway, Mike thanks for the the chat that was awesome I loved the way that we managed our energy today. Thanks everybody for listening catch y'all next week Mike where can they find you.

02:08:36.86

mikebledsoe

Absolutely absolutely yeah and find me on Instagram Mike Underscore Bloodso and just keep tuning in to the blood. So show now. Um None thing. Oh. And I also have a summit coming up if you go to http://thestrongcoach.com or shop dot thes strongcoach dot com you can check that out. Got a lot of cool speakers coming in to talk at that. It's a pay what you want. And lastly, if you're interested in how to. Manage your cash flow better just shoot me a dm I've got a little course I can share with you.

02:10:37.20

Max Shank

Cool man later folks.

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May 16, 2022

00:00.00

mikebledsoe

Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're gonna be talking about order and chaos. You know I think that there's a place for both and society as a whole likes to swing really really hard and me as an individual I do the same thing max. Thanks for joining for another Monday as we discuss topics that seem highly abstract and somehow try to get it to become practical for the listeners.

00:28.90

Max Shank

Yeah I think order and chaos could be the name of our show because it's really quite a chaotic ride I think it's an excellent train of thought that gets frequently derailed. But that's part of what makes it fun and interesting and not only do I think order and chaos are ah definitive of each other they define each other i. I think what you said is perfect. We we swing back and forth really hard from more order to more chaos and we try to get tighter control and then more freedom and ah you know more openness or more boundary setting and that back and forth ah can be. Can be really exciting and in societies actually None of the things that's really important about playing and especially wrestling roughhousing that sort of thing is understanding the line between fighting and play fighting and ah. Being able to introduce chaos in a safe environment because the whole purpose of society is to create order reduce chaos as much as possible so you need something to dose you. With chaos. So you don't become um a a sissy and sad.

04:01.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that and it yeah said I mean the like for me creativity happens after things get shaken up I think about um, no structure is the structure forever. Um, we the human spirit desires for change because we also live in an environment. Ah, ah, ever present change and um, you know we got to if we want to have some stability. We do need to set up structures in society. We need to set up structures in our own life. But we also need to recognize when it's time to assess and reassess these things and I think creating those safe spaces like you're saying where we can't introduce chaos in small amounts or over a short period of time in ah and a confined space. Ah. Really allows us to not have to go through really big societal bits of chaos which I think we're experiencing right now. There's when I think about rites of passage for young men that has been. Ah, regularly conducted over Millennia and it hasn't really happened in american society in the last few generations and so nature comes along and says hey um. Noticed that you guys haven't introduced any of this planned chaos. Ah you know a rite of passage for a man usually involves being out of control and and being needing to submit to the universe and. And usually facing death in some way or the acknowledgement of death and it can feel It's a big pattern interrupt and pattern interrupts tend to be a little chaotic in nature and when a society or an individual. Has been comfortable for too long in their order then nature is going to come along and shake it up because everything's always changing and we may be fighting to keep it the same but at some point the environment's going to break the the individual or the culture.

08:24.35

Max Shank

Yes, and you also sacrifice some of the excitement of life if you imagine someone who was born in a castle isolated from most of the world. There's going to be None of order. None exposure to chaos and they may live their whole life in that environment and then have a child of their own that lives in that environment but eventually ah just like the seasons change and ah different. Creatures Rise up and overcome in different parts of the ecosystem. Ah the people in power never stay up there for long and the more you try to create order the more fragile that individual becomes because they're not dosed. With that chaos and that stimulus because our bodies and minds are always adapting via the said principle. So We're always adjusting to what's going on. So if you have no exposure to Chaos. You will be much more fragile. Ah.

10:54.40

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

10:50.13

Max Shank

By by definition.

11:18.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah I'm listening to a book by Ray Dalio right now I think it's called the rise of the rise of nation rise and fall of nations or something like that and he he he's talking about the 5 cycles through a society and.

11:10.69

Max Shank

M.

11:24.51

Max Shank

Ah.

11:58.14

mikebledsoe

You know if you've read the fourth turning they they identify None cycles. He identifies 5 and these cycles last about 100 years or the the cycles last about 2025 years and there's 4 or 5 of them depending on which expert you ask? and basically what happens is it. Ah, you the society falls into ah each generation becomes more and more chaotic until it's unbearable and that everyone who's like and it usually ends in civil war and external war and then everybody says. Fuck it. We need. We need more order. You know the the economics are broken where everyone's fighting with each other It's it's highly disordered and then what you end up with is a whole yeah a whole generation comes comes along and is like starving for it. So they.

13:04.10

Max Shank

The big prick comes in.

13:19.11

Max Shank

Yeah, one and it's ah.

13:52.30

mikebledsoe

They're wanting I mean that that's basically how Hitler got the power right? Germany was experiencing an incredible amount of chaos and this guy says you know what? if you just do what I say then things will be better and and they were for a while. There's there's there's videos of like.

13:33.19

Max Shank

Exactly.

13:52.97

Max Shank

And it's frightening.

14:31.72

mikebledsoe

The the population gathering and arenas and exercising together. They were like very lockstep and everything was really good for a short period of time until the 1 person who was in charge decided to fucking go nuts and one of the thing.

14:34.17

Max Shank

Right? Where there's there's like a line where people are like you know we're really glad that this ah this dick really like got things under control. You know it was a little too chaotic I felt afraid there was pillaging and rioting and then that dictator. Crosses the line and everyone's like whoa, not like that and then and then it goes back to you know, just that did that to that to da today.

15:47.14

mikebledsoe

Um, well the the danger is is when you're when you're in ah and a highly ordered society like that the the amount of thinking by the individual is reduced because they don't have to make as many choices and so. They're less likely.. There's that slippery slope they're less likely to catch poor judgment from the top because it's been so good and just one value judgment at a time and next thing you know you're just killing a bunch of people.

16:15.69

Max Shank

Yo absolutely and you you can understand why that would attract people I remember watching this series. Excellent series. The dictator's playbook. The episode on Mussolini he's you know, given a speech from some balcony and he goes None italy None decision and everyone goes. Yeah, they are.

17:51.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

17:24.61

Max Shank

Onboard They want a so bad like None maybe hundreds. It's so many people and they were so excited that he's like look I will call the shots. You guys don't want to trouble yourselves with these minor details I will take care of everything and. If you've had a good lady or significant other in your life having someone make decisions for you effectively in ah is amazing like there are certain things like some. You have this comparative advantage where someone else now is responsible for stocking the kitchen stocking the bathrooms getting this taken care of like you know you have that division of management basically and it feels amazing. Like if you get the right person to make your decisions you are on Easy Street. It's just ah, absolute power right.

19:55.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well I think I think the the happy medium with that because I agree is is you know when you have for instance in the United States you have if you had None person if we had a dictatorship you have None person making the. Decision for 350000000 people. It's not possible for the human mind to be able to grasp the actual impact of the decision on on the individuals and this makes me think about Dunbar's number you know was a.

20:42.37

Max Shank

Oh.

21:10.94

mikebledsoe

Around None is about as many people as 1 person can keep up with in relationship after that you know people all kind of start looking the same. You don't make as much eye contact. You're not going to remember their names. You're you're not in community and this is why a lot of churches.

21:07.45

Max Shank

Oh.

21:49.94

mikebledsoe

What they do is they break up after they get to about 150 members and then another church will open up. Ah yeah, and so these like that most churches do that. But in some churches become megachurches and have 10000 members or something like that.

21:37.77

Max Shank

It's like setting up little franchises with limits.

21:56.53

Max Shank

Yeah.

22:28.92

mikebledsoe

And that requires a higher level of leadership and hierarchy hierarchy has to be built into the system in order for that to happen. So when there's and the same thing for Crossfit Gyms all these crossfit gyms sprung up a decade ago and we all watched it happen. It.

22:10.19

Max Shank

Right.

23:05.62

mikebledsoe

It was a very community driven thing and when it got about 150 members 1 member goes I could do this better. They go open another gym and then they pull some of the gym members away and it's it's just like church and.

22:53.27

Max Shank

Ah, crossfits are like church well said I agree there are a lot of similarities there I'm on board.

23:41.28

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, there's a lot of similarities. Yeah, but I think it's a really great demonstration of Dumbbar's number and that the person the person that I'm gonna trust to help.

23:29.31

Max Shank

O.

24:13.36

mikebledsoe

So make decisions for me right? There's somebody on my team and my company my girlfriend my close group of friends. You know, somebody's organizing a ah ah week long vacation I don't even ask me any questions. They just tell me how much money to throw in the pot and then I show up I'm okay with that. But when we start dealing with people I've never met before and have never met me and now they're making decisions on my behalf I think that becomes problematic.

24:31.63

Max Shank

Well, yeah I mean that's that's trust right there I mean who who you choose to trust is a really important choice choosing the right doctor instead of the wrong doctor. Choosing the right trainer instead of the wrong trainer right? Coach instead of the wrong coach and it's not that there it was an absolute good and an absolute bad.. It's just whether or not the resultant partnership or collaboration is gonna be constructive or not because. Some people respond really well to ah stick-based motivation and competitiveness and some people respond way better to carrot-based motivation and creativity and Non-competitiveness. So just finding the right? um. Partnership there like who do you trust with that area of your life is massive.

26:59.62

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and going into trust I think one of the reasons we're we're in a massive amount of chaos in our society right now is because there is a lack of trust you know nobody like like the trust of the media is an all time low.

26:43.99

Max Shank

Um, well yeah.

27:37.62

mikebledsoe

Politicians is an all time low you you ask the average american and they'll just be like yeah the the news and the the politicians are all full of shit. You know there's probably twenty thirty percent think it's still good. But.

27:25.71

Max Shank

Which I think is which I think is good I think ah like a skeptical society will actually come up with better solutions but trust saves Calories. Ah the whole Concept. Of a group is built on trust the the whole the whole thing is trust based ah fiat currency all these different things you're trusting that the person in charge is going to do. What's best for You. You're trusting that. Um. You know if you help out with the hunt that you're going to get some of the bounty from that hunt and that we're all going to be part of this unit. We're going to look out for each other.. It's like you scratch my back I'll scratch yours and having those relationships. Is the most powerful thing there is like I think of one of the best survival tools as a radical Rolodex So Just having the right array of people that you can call experts in different fields. But more importantly people that you trust to give you. Real solid Answer. So our whole response to bringing order into chaos bringing order out of chaos is based on faith or Trust. Ah, even if you take it from a religious standpoint. You are putting your faith or trust in a supreme being that we cannot see so it's all it's all trust you could say that? yeah.

31:12.48

mikebledsoe

Know or or you could say that that supreme being is everything and everywhere and you see it all the time. But yeah, that's what I say. Ah.

31:13.51

Max Shank

I'm pretty sure God is a butterfly. It's the butterfly God Yeah, the other all the other ones are not true I mean I'm pretty religious but it's definitely the butterfly god.

31:45.94

mikebledsoe

The Butterfly god.

32:04.78

mikebledsoe

There you go. So I I think I think back to like personal experiences with order and chaos and I watch I look at my own life and I watch my own self I'm one of those people that the pendulum swings pretty hard. I Think for some people the pendulum kind of hangs out in the middle for me. It's I go really deep into chaos and then really deep into order and ah, there's not a lot of time spent in the middle. But for me I think that helps with ah.

32:39.39

Max Shank

Go.

33:23.50

mikebledsoe

More progress is it's definitely not the less least painful way of going about it. But I find it's not for everybody but when I'm but everyone does experience that everyone goes to these cycles of order and chaos and the when I go into.

33:06.10

Max Shank

It's not for everybody.

33:59.68

mikebledsoe

Times of order what I see is a destruction of the structures. Ah that I had set up in my life previously. Whatever rituals or routines that I had previously were swept away So a really good example of this is I went I sold all my things.

33:32.25

Max Shank

Length.

34:39.80

mikebledsoe

Got down to two bags and went nomadic for a few years I really didn't have much of anything I left my books with some friends. Yeah yeah, dude I I did some crazy shit Um, during that time it was it.

34:20.60

Max Shank

Speaking of a rite of passage right? feels like a rite of passage.

35:15.32

mikebledsoe

I destroyed everything like I I left the business I had spent years building I ended up getting divorced I was traveling didn't have a home the level of novelty that was always present was so high that getting making progress on any None thing was. Was close to impossible including taking care of my own health and but it was a really necessary time for me to reestablish a new structure so I needed to I desired a.

35:29.75

Max Shank

A.

36:26.78

mikebledsoe

New structure so much that I had to I had to really flatten the building I had to rebuild some people are just renovating their house all the time I needed to it was a teardown say my life is a Teardown. Let's just go back down to the slab. Let's go down to the slab and then rethink the floor plan.

36:11.45

Max Shank

Ah.

37:05.66

mikebledsoe

And everything so the I think I think the reason yeah I think the reason people don't do that is because well when you've been living under 1 structure your whole life going back to the and rebuilding new floor plan. You have no idea what to do so there's there's the lack of.

36:39.21

Max Shank

Takes a lot more time to do that. Also.

37:43.52

mikebledsoe

Knowledge that can be scary for people to do that demolition plan and then the the knowing that man I I spent say None building this one house and now I'm just going to completely demolish it and start over I know that what I build next is going to be so much better. But.

37:35.91

Max Shank

Her.

38:23.36

mikebledsoe

That's a lot of work.

37:56.33

Max Shank

And absolutely and it's even ah, depending on. Ah how you're wired. It's more like choosing which limb to cut off because it's a part of you is like you're.

38:54.38

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

38:30.73

Max Shank

Your identity is wrapped up into whatever it is you have going on this marriage this business this habit this thing over here to like strip those away and start coming to the I I think. Crazy shocking realization that most of your like baggage and Bullshit was just thoughtlessly inherited just thoughtlessly and you you weren't like trying to inherit it. It was just Monkey See Monkey Do Bing Bam boom.

39:58.54

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

39:48.63

Max Shank

And you're like now I'm this and you get wrapped up into like I'm this and this is good cause I'm good and that's what I'm trying to say all the time. So why would you want to let that go in exchange for something that is unknown right? because that's what really scares people is like I'll take this from.

40:44.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and.

40:26.73

Max Shank

Familiar pain to the unknown that is like I don't know if it's a devil's bargain or a fool's bargain but it doesn't sound like a good deal and yet that's what most of us make is we'll take the familiar pain I'll take familiar pain again. Thank you compared to the unknown.

41:28.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, there's um I think in the landmark education they call it the winning strategy. So it's it's a strategy that you learn at a young age where you go Oh if I behave like this.

41:03.49

Max Shank

Ah, no yeah.

41:17.77

Max Shank

Oh.

41:29.70

Max Shank

Um, ah yeah.

42:04.72

mikebledsoe

Then this happens or I get to avoid this by being like this I get to you know my dad got mad at me 1 time for doing this. You know I'll never do anything that resembles that ever again and now you become now that that becomes part of who you are and forms the personality and it becomes a winning strategy and.

41:39.89

Max Shank

Totally.

42:15.71

Max Shank

Oh man.

42:44.80

mikebledsoe

And you end up and you get the reward at a young age and then you start collecting evidence for that being a winning strategy. Yeah, you're like oh and you're unable to see where it's not working because it's the only thing that's present. So this is what creates the blind spots.

42:27.79

Max Shank

Um, it's like heroin. Oh my god.

42:45.71

Max Shank

Man.

43:23.54

mikebledsoe

And the the winning strategy is something that is very difficult to let go because it is usually very responsible for a lot of success in your life like somebody may their winning strategy may be shit talking themselves and that's and they overcome it like the beside Navy Seal's name.

43:21.95

Max Shank

Yeah.

44:01.38

mikebledsoe

Who are ah David Goggins yeah I mean he's he's highly accomplished but he seems miserable as fuck and so he he seems like it is like like he's a perfect example. David Goggins is a perfect example of somebody who.

43:36.69

Max Shank

Goggins. Yeah.

44:41.32

mikebledsoe

Has a winning strategy. It's getting him some type of reward. But it's costing him so much in his life that he's completely unaware of and doesn't he doesn't value it because he hasn't touched it yet and yet I've met I mean I went through this myself I went from becoming successful.

44:37.30

Max Shank

When.

45:16.80

mikebledsoe

Shit talking myself and what I was trying to avoid versus you know, ah talking to myself like I was a how would I talk to a None ar old. Well, that's probably how I should talk to myself and so anyways going back to the the people are afraid to give up that. Winning strategy because they're afraid that if they let go of that piece that that piece of their identity. They're not going to be good at something anymore and being good at something is what's earned them. Love.

45:46.51

Max Shank

Oh my God It's like a tool. It's It's like you're setting down your sword before you waltz into the Dragons Den It's like when I was a kid I learned about lying now. Okay, lying is a strategy.

46:30.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

46:24.11

Max Shank

That has almost no limits to it in terms of what you can get for Yourself. You can get out of trouble instantly so I was lying all the time growing up as soon as I was able to get away with it I mean what's a better rush than that and there are all kinds of behaviors like that. That they work so you just keep doing them.

47:34.92

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah, they work and then until they don't right? and this is this is where you know, um when we did when in psychology when when we look at like stages of development and.

47:19.29

Max Shank

Until they don't.

48:13.72

mikebledsoe

What ends up happening is the the things that that move you into one stage of development will end up being the things that hold you back from the next and in fact, when if you look at say the the model of spiral dynamics for psychology and and human development is you're actually moving from. Um.

47:59.71

Max Shank

A.

48:52.36

mikebledsoe

More of an eye oriented to a we oriented but there's also a bit of chaos and order on either side of that as well. So it's more of a spiral so you got we and I so some stages are more we oriented some stages more eye oriented but then it's it's not ah, it's not a straight line back and forth. It's ah it's a spiral.

48:40.75

Max Shank

Ah.

49:29.10

mikebledsoe

And in between the eye and the we is is chaos and when you're making the transition and then you've got to bring the order back and so for people to want that chaos in their life. They usually have to be really unhappy with the way something's going on in their life. People when I think about this I think about ah people that have dysfunctional patterns of behavior and a lot of people I think think about oh I have anxiety or I have like some type of system a symptom that might show up in the Dsm um, Dsm whatever it is the. Psychology playbook of symptoms and diagnoses and they they think oh I've got this I'm suffering from this thing and that's the dysfunction. But it's not the best way to find dys function in your life is to just to see what's not working. What what do you desire to be different in your life but you can't seem to get there that to me that demonstrates that there's some type of dysfunction and usually people believe that there's nothing they can do about it. But once they get a hint. And they're just fucking sick and tired of this thing being true in their life. You're like you know I'm gonna do something about it fuck it and then they start digging deep and there's a lot of work to be done there but that that itself becomes chaotic because as you start making changes in your life. You basically have to start behaving differently for everyone else in your life. And they do not like that because they expect you to behave a certain way and that that creates relational chaos.

52:14.97

Max Shank

I Think of it in a very basic way which is you have momentum being a certain way and the easiest thing to do is just continue with that Momentum. That's the most effortless thing you can do. So your pain or discomfort needs to be proportional to the adjustment of your trajectory like you need to be dissatisfied or uncomfortable enough to overcome the momentum of living a certain way. And it's not until that happens that a person takes action. Otherwise why would they? it's pure law of least Action. We're going to do the minimum we can unless ah otherwise authorized from a higher order kind of function. And even that is going to be based on a ah big picture discomfort um with just letting things flow as they may. It's like ah I'm uncomfortable not doing this thing. It's it's too painful to not. Go to Mars anymore. It's too painful to not get a divorce anymore. It's too painful to not start a business anymore. Whatever it is. There's like it's different for everybody different pain threshold for different pain catalyst.

55:40.30

mikebledsoe

Everyone's got different rock bottom. Yeah, and that makes me think about our concept I I know I didn't create it. But um, the the feather I don't know where it came from the feather the break the Mac truck and if have I told you about this yet.

55:46.10

Max Shank

The feather the brick and the Mac truck. No no I told you this but why don't you go ahead and share it with everybody.

56:28.20

mikebledsoe

Are you.

56:34.76

mikebledsoe

Pretty out did I hear I didn't hear from you did you or did you are you the originator.

56:15.21

Max Shank

Go ahead. Just let let them know what it is. It's fine. Go ahead.

56:55.98

mikebledsoe

Um, so yeah, the the the feather the Breakke the mack truck. You always get the message very lightly in the beginning and most people ignore it then it comes a little harder and then it's a fucking mack truck and it runs you over.

56:51.95

Max Shank

Here. A e.

57:31.96

mikebledsoe

And think that the skill is learning to listen for feathers and so it's a it's a it's a it's about being more sensitive. Yeah.

57:23.75

Max Shank

Right? But you don't want to get startled every time you feel the wind either right? when there's nothing there. Yeah, you didn't get that for me for me. It's always been the wind the feather the brick and the Mac truck.

58:04.28

mikebledsoe

No, you gotta be you gotta be listening to the right thing.

58:23.54

mikebledsoe

The wind the feather oh shit oh shit, did you get it from somebody. Are you reading the same person or did you are you really an originator. Do you even know.

58:12.97

Max Shank

Now I just I just made the whole thing up I never heard of it until just now. But I thought it would be fun to ah, just throw that Monkey Wrench in there because because see for me. Ah I think.

59:01.42

mikebledsoe

Ah, the wind the fact. Okay, we'll throw in the wind now now we've got 4 levels.

58:52.97

Max Shank

It's it's like ah a hypochondriac. The hypochondriac is thinking. Everything is some health disaster and really they were just constipated or something like that and I think the line between Prudence and paranoia is a truly fascinating one.

59:33.18

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um.

59:31.55

Max Shank

Because everybody has a different idea of what is reasonable preparedness and responsibility like the ability to respond or not so it's It's really the same thing like what's the line between prudence and having like a very deep awareness.

01:00:11.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:00:09.93

Max Shank

Of what's going on around you and responding to the slightest stimulus so being a little I don't know hypersensitive versus like hyposensitive. It's ah it's an interesting thing.

01:01:04.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:00:41.87

Max Shank

So so like to kind of bring us back to that concept of the feather the brick and the Mac truck that what you're saying is change is or or like life. Let's say is giving you signals.

01:01:43.28

mikebledsoe

M.

01:01:19.51

Max Shank

And if you pay attention to the signal when it's really light. It's not going to cause you much harm. But if you if you wait the feather becomes a brick becomes a mac truck when it eventually just absolutely wrecks you.

01:01:57.20

mikebledsoe

Right.

01:02:13.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah, becomes more painful but also the amount of change that you're gonna have to make is probably more drastic so it's a double whammy you got extra pain and and additional work to do like I think about say somebody who is a.

01:01:56.33

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:02:52.68

mikebledsoe

A meth at it. You know if they're one weekend and they notice like oh I'm not getting good sleep I'm Jittery I you know I'm not paying attention at work or whatever and they and they go you know what? I've you know I'm gonna check myself into a clinic and I'm gonna kick this thing but then you got the person who's.

01:02:25.25

Max Shank

Ah.

01:02:38.41

Max Shank

For her.

01:03:31.22

mikebledsoe

10 years in you know they're missing their teeth like for them to be able to get their life back on track and get a job and all that is going to be monumentally more difficult.

01:03:25.91

Max Shank

Right? So going past the point of no return basically like how how hard it is. yeah yeah I mean David Goggins is a ah great example of ah.

01:04:07.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's a point you cross where you never getting back? Yeah yeah.

01:04:05.55

Max Shank

Someone who has just made such an impression on so many people I think you know he he just flipped total extremes right? Big fat guy boom now I'm a Navy seal running millions of miles. Oh my foot's broken.

01:04:55.40

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:04:45.43

Max Shank

Who Cares stay hard and I think that now that Persona has gotten him speaking of winning strategies. So now even if he did say you know what I think a more gentle form of exercise is really the right choice for most people because. You know, Actually you're going to harm yourself long term by just running through these injuries. Ah, he almost can't do that now because he has got this winning strategy as this character and I think he.

01:05:55.24

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah. Well, you know.

01:05:59.77

Max Shank

Wants to be that character for himself and for everybody else I think he's got to be thinking. Wow This is an amazing thing that I am doing here and I'm this guy for myself and for these other folks.

01:06:50.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think a lot of people are attracted to it because they yeah they're they're attracted to it and they want to do it. They want to be like it. But I think it's a it's.

01:06:37.95

Max Shank

Superhero shit. Of course it's attractive.

01:07:27.40

mikebledsoe

It's immature in a lot of ways you know there's there's somebody who I saw go through a transformation which was a gary banynerchuk and I don't know if he shifted I Never really heard him say hey I had a realization I'm changing the way that I'm speaking now.

01:07:14.71

Max Shank

He.

01:08:05.50

mikebledsoe

But I watched him shift over like a 5 year period of hustling rind. You know, get out of your mouth and maybe that his audience matured and he needed to shift his his message.

01:07:47.10

Max Shank

Ah.

01:08:00.99

Max Shank

He.

01:08:33.64

mikebledsoe

But it became more of like hey let's work smarter not harder like be kind to yourself all these things Gary Vaynerchuk I mean if you go back and watch videos from ten years ago and him trying to motivate a crowd. He's telling him to like you know, buck up, you know quit being a little bitch and now he's.

01:08:31.53

Max Shank

In.

01:09:09.56

mikebledsoe

He's found a little more kindness in in his approach. So I think there's a that's something that was working for him but he also was able to to mature beyond that hopefully David Goggins experiences the same thing I mean for his sake because I mean if you got to keep that persona on.

01:08:47.84

Max Shank

Right.

01:09:47.38

mikebledsoe

For the rest of your life. It's just hard to.

01:09:21.90

Max Shank

But maybe that feels like good for him. Maybe that's that's exactly what he's looking for he he won't be happy unless there's a ah, big physical challenge and you know who can imagine what it's like to live that guy's life.

01:10:22.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, who knows and there's a place for everybody right? like there's a reason that he's so prolific right now is because there are a lot of soft people that need to hear that message. They're probably sick and tired of being soft or like you know what I'm I'm fat too.

01:09:57.85

Max Shank

Is what I say. Ah.

01:10:21.19

Max Shank

Yes.

01:11:00.82

mikebledsoe

And I don't know what to do about this so you know what? like and I mean I am of the opinion that whatever, whatever the fuck gets you started go but my encouragement is it's never the whole thing get gets you started on being healthier.

01:10:33.47

Max Shank

Right.

01:10:55.17

Max Shank

Whatever gets you started on anything. Ah.

01:11:40.46

mikebledsoe

But you know it got fat shamed Now you're losing weight. Okay, but here's the thing is take it further yeah like take it get up take it further. You know I think people a lot of times. It's It's like.

01:11:22.69

Max Shank

You got fat shamed you got fat shamed.

01:12:15.30

mikebledsoe

The reason you're fat is not because it's not necessarily because you're not exercising enough or you didn't You're not I mean these are the the behaviors you're not exercising enough and you're and you're eating like shit but like there's an entire lifestyle that goes behind this that that needs to shift that doesn't need to be. Maniacal about food and exercise.

01:12:35.29

Max Shank

It's literally just using food as pleasure more than your activity will allow and the reason we do things like that is because we feel like there's something missing and we want to change our state salty sweet fatty cheesy bits. Will will pretty much resolve that immediately. It's not super long lasting but you know Obesity is just a drug addiction that has a really easy to see physical manifestation to it.

01:14:15.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:47.35

Max Shank

Right. Ah, it's It's like a lot of people are addicted to their phones but it doesn't make you £40 heavier. Oh you're you're addicted to your phone but this other person is addicted to ah like hostess cupcakes. That's we're not getting sponsored by them but just because.

01:14:55.26

mikebledsoe

Not yet max not yet.

01:14:30.53

Max Shank

Just because they're addicted to just God I Hope so sponsored by Twinkie. Ah, but yeah, if someone's addicted to hostess cupcakes instead of the telephone they get fat but it's you're still just. Pulling a pleasure lever to distract from being here and now basically right.

01:15:46.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah I Um, definitely use food as a little bit of entertainment and but you know what I've I've figured out how to use my entertainment food. Like I can get really entertained by my food without it being just outlandishly terrible and that I think that's ah, that's a good like like. For instance I eat like ah, a keto ice cream that doesn't have It's like the cleanest one I could find mammoth It's mostly just fat. With a tiny bit of sweetener supposed to just cream and by the way I mean just eating frozen cream by itself is so good. Yeah, and then and then I put put strawberries on it I put strawberries on it and then I put.

01:16:35.10

Max Shank

Don't don't eat that bad sugar. Don't eat that bad sugar fat Only sugar is bad for you. Don't eat sugar Listen there's a killer out there. It's sugar.

01:17:28.34

mikebledsoe

Raw honey on it. Yeah yeah, and then that'll usually beat whatever fucking dessert that's sitting on the shelf somewhere or even at a restaurant like it's actually tastier.

01:17:00.87

Max Shank

Um, very fancy.

01:17:20.81

Max Shank

Well, you know that's great that you have found a strategy that that works for you. Um, for for your mouth pleasure. Although.

01:18:03.82

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah I know it's not your your morning cheesecake that you like to start your day with.

01:17:54.75

Max Shank

I Do like to start with a cheesecake and mocha in the morning if the opportunity arises I'm definitely going to take it. Absolutely.

01:18:46.22

mikebledsoe

Ah, well ordering Chaos I.

01:18:20.35

Max Shank

So with the with the food is it about the mouth pleasure like the the flavor the chewing the swallowing the whole thing I mean that's what helped me like get a handle on the the food addiction I mean it's all good right. Is it that I like the flavor while I'm chewing. Is it like some deeper primal thing where I I just feel good that I'm putting stuff in my belly like there's this primal desire. That's like yeah food goes in this tube this way and then that's a good thing.

01:19:52.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well I think I think for me it um like I'm a low appetite person. So yeah, yeah.

01:19:39.73

Max Shank

How nice someone the other day said to me he goes. Ah I've been trying he was at he was at our gym he goes I've been trying to eat more and the idea of someone who had to try to eat more.

01:20:31.44

mikebledsoe

You know? okay.

01:20:17.41

Max Shank

Was so foreign to me ah eating more is my absolute default. Ah the concept of eating less food than I need or even just the right amount that I need is insane like every time I'm eating food I Want more. I Want hometown Buffet I want all you can eat sushi I Want a gigantic porter house with mashed potatoes.

01:21:34.54

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think I think what may be different between you and I is I've been obsessing over the nutrient density of my food since I was about 14 So it's um.

01:21:28.17

Max Shank

A.

01:22:06.66

mikebledsoe

Like yeah I'm in this constant search for the highest quality of what I'm what I'm eating now Super dens. It's a superfood and so the yeah.

01:21:46.59

Max Shank

That's why I just eat bullying cubes.

01:22:03.33

Max Shank

I Think we should try to make that a thing super concentrated beef essence.

01:22:45.88

mikebledsoe

Well, it's kind of like kale kale was like being sold as ah like a garnish for these buffets at Wendy's or whatever for for almost nothing and then it was listed as a super food. It was marketed properly and then ah.

01:22:34.83

Max Shank

Ah.

01:23:20.12

mikebledsoe

The fucking price of it skyrocket. We can do the same thing for Bullyon Cubes I think is somehow you know hate. It's.

01:23:01.79

Max Shank

That would be such an exciting thing to get like all these high level athletes just snacking on bullion cubes. Everyone starts carrying around a little beef pouch salty. Yeah.

01:23:43.38

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think it's a good hydration. It's more like a hydration tool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but ah yeah I think for me like I've always all I'm like this this quality freak about food and be and like I don't want it.

01:23:46.70

Max Shank

Here.

01:24:21.96

mikebledsoe

I could eat like a footlong Subway Club sandwich like I could do that like don't get me wrong I could do it but but it just it just doesn't like um, there's something about it I Just don't I don't feel satisfied in the same way and so.

01:23:59.59

Max Shank

That sounds good I like a good submarine sandwich.

01:25:01.60

mikebledsoe

When I'm eating higher quality foods like it does seem like it's harder to eat. It's like I get satisfied more quickly So I don't eat as many calories and then I'm also burning through a lot of calories in the day and then if I'm training which I am right now. Are you just the.

01:25:00.83

Max Shank

Then.

01:25:40.30

mikebledsoe

The appetite just skyrocket. But I don't I won't put down just anything So then I end up eating Keto ice cream with honey and strawberries at night.

01:25:17.83

Max Shank

A.

01:25:28.93

Max Shank

Yeah I'll I'll eat healthy food I'll just eat 3 times the volume of what I should eat. It's weird I'll be at a restaurant or something and they'll be like. Do you want any dessert and I'll look at the dessert menu.

01:26:12.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think I just have a small stomach some you know.

01:26:06.89

Max Shank

And I'll be like no but I will get another entree instead when it's like roughly this I Really like savory foods so we'll be out. It'll be like sushi or something they'll be like oh you want dessert and I'm looking the desserts I'm go think I'll just have more rice and fish and avocado and that kind of thing.

01:26:59.64

mikebledsoe

A ah.

01:26:42.61

Max Shank

Um, food Huh How about that.

01:27:13.82

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so going back to ordering chaos where we started. Ah I I think that what we're gonna be witnessing moving forward is a lot of people seeking order. There was I was listening ah to.

01:26:55.61

Max Shank

Order up.

01:27:16.30

Max Shank

A.

01:27:52.76

mikebledsoe

Gad sad god sad how do you say his name on Rogan the other day and it was talking about how some of the professors are starting to report that the that the new students in the college in the universities are. Really wanting a more conservative approach to things like they seem to be tired with you know all the the crazy shit around you know like they're being 72 different genders and and all that kind of stuff and so the ah.

01:28:26.15

Max Shank

All that shit is just all that shit doesn't matter. It's just about whether or not the discourse is violent or not I think.

01:29:13.46

mikebledsoe

Well I think that's part of the problem is it's it. You know it's obviously been violent people certain people aren't allowed to talk at universities because they get shouted out and basically forced out So that's chaos. That's that's people's emotional state.

01:28:57.53

Max Shank

Right? wild.

01:29:51.40

mikebledsoe

Overtaking their behavior becoming illogical and then are unable to you know have intepit discourse. So I yeah I think I mean if we look at if we look at what Ray Dalio says if we look at the fourth turning. We look at these things that these people who talk about. These cycles that are going on in the world and I think we're pretty getting pretty close to maxing out on chaos I mean I think the only thing that's more chaotic for for for the american public for for the.

01:30:19.51

Max Shank

Um, what whoa woa I don't know I'm still listening though but I don't know.

01:31:05.40

mikebledsoe

For the American Public's taste for things you think they can take more chaos. We'll see. Um, yeah I could see it going a little bit further I mean but the the only thing that's left is is now and.

01:30:58.23

Max Shank

Um I think of anarchy as chaos like anarchy is chaos that I mean that would be soak I Oh my God I think things like I don't think things are being run well. But.

01:31:40.16

mikebledsoe

No anarchy is different. So ah.

01:32:01.30

mikebledsoe

Boy here.

01:31:36.77

Max Shank

My gosh I think a lot of stuff is still running so smoothly so predictably in such an ordered fashion I mean I hope it doesn't get more chaotic and unpredictable.

01:32:22.40

mikebledsoe

Well well anarchy anarchy just means without a ruler and so it no without a ruler and so it has to do with.

01:32:06.67

Max Shank

Right? Well without without rule isn't it or just without a guy who enforces the rules then.

01:32:59.34

mikebledsoe

God.

01:32:36.89

Max Shank

No.

01:33:08.42

mikebledsoe

Ah, well if you define God by natural law like like gravity like like to me that is the the forces that have put been put in place to create physical order in the world which we don't need. Anyone to be in charge to do that right? like real laws are things that no person has to enforce and so you have natural law and then you have common law which is basically don't fuck with me and I'm not going to fuck with you right.

01:33:47.53

Max Shank

Right? But who's enforcing that is the question. That's what I'm saying So it's ah you know I think there would be a lot more people stealing each other shit if they didn't think there was some like repercussion.

01:34:22.64

mikebledsoe

Well people ultimately have to enforce it for themselves. Yeah.

01:34:43.68

mikebledsoe

Her maybe maybe well here here's wait. There is a reapercussion so here's an example San Francisco has riots how long do they last Minneapolis long fucking time. You know how long they lasted in Miami.

01:34:25.51

Max Shank

That the hired guns could lay in a long time. Yeah, not as long.

01:35:20.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah, about 36 hours and then it everyone went back to order and it's not because they put more police force out. It's because the the ah the police came out and said hey if you own a store on this street. You might want to come out with your gun. They basically encourage people to protect their own property because that's a state in which they honor property rights right? and then right and then but.

01:35:43.30

Max Shank

Which are the only reason we have all these rules in the None place.

01:36:24.58

mikebledsoe

But property rights aren't necessarily I don't think they necessarily have to be enforced by an outside entity whereas in California you have government officials that are impeding property rights so in 1 state you've got the encouragement of protecting your own property like we're not even going to do it. You do it.

01:36:19.49

Max Shank

Right.

01:36:32.53

Max Shank

Right.

01:37:03.90

mikebledsoe

And then in San Francisco they're saying whatever you do don't protect your own property or else we're gonna come after you, you know you can't have a gun if you shoot somebody on your property. We're gonna you're gonna be in trouble. So some people would say that San Francisco has got way more order or.

01:36:46.10

Max Shank

Right.

01:37:42.64

mikebledsoe

Whereas Florida seems a little more anarchist right? where they're encouraging when I think about anarchy it brings it down to there is a ruler and each person has to be their own ruler in which case. So we look at Miami and people would say oh we're just gonna let people kill each other but the the amount of damage that was done and the amount of deaths were really small because what happened was people came out with their guns. A couple writers got shot and killed and then everyone goes. Oh you can't do that or else you might get shot and killed and so they just don't do it anymore. So I think this is a good example of of the order being placed by. You know, an authoritative government is shown to be ineffective. So I think.

01:38:32.51

Max Shank

Um, well yeah.

01:39:31.30

mikebledsoe

Majority of order that's produced people generally want to be kind to each other people generally want to get along in all the research people avoid conflict. They don't They don't do these things they enter into conflict when they think they can be faceless and nameless and they're wearing a mask and and running through the streets.

01:39:24.49

Max Shank

Most people.

01:39:38.77

Max Shank

A.

01:40:09.94

mikebledsoe

With a thousand other people and they can blend in now they become that's chaos. That's that's that's the mob but that's not anarchy. That's ah anarchy would be everyone. There would be consequences. You're held liable for your personal stuff.

01:39:48.30

Max Shank

Um, a mob.

01:40:44.12

mikebledsoe

Just because everybody was doing It doesn't mean that you are um that it's okay to do it So There's a level of individual responsibility that I see that happens with anarchy and I think that this I think that anything that's not anarchy is actually a. It's an illusion because if we if we go up so we.

01:40:58.49

Max Shank

Well hold up every society is an illusion based on a unify unifying set of beliefs whether it's the tree spirit or an eye for an eye code of hamurabi or hey that guy with the big stick is in charge because he can beat up everyone else.

01:41:50.46

mikebledsoe

It's just it's a story.

01:42:02.26

mikebledsoe

Well well the big, the big stick guy is usually what people think about anything about anarchy is like it's like oh yeah, it's a power game right? It's like if everyone's just running around and.

01:41:38.50

Max Shank

Right? And we just do what he says. That's all.

01:41:56.53

Max Shank

Well it it is extra Well if there's no recourse if someone takes your stuff except for your own then everyone is going to have to arm themselves significantly more now I do think that would make a community.

01:43:01.74

mikebledsoe

I Think it would be a much more peaceful community as well.

01:42:33.81

Max Shank

Much much stronger been to Oklahoma I agree completely. Um, people would respect boundaries a little more I believe and if you think that you may get shot. You're less likely to go try to Rob someone unless it's really really desperate.

01:43:32.78

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:43:12.31

Max Shank

And even then you're more likely to go ask? What can you do you can beg borrow or steal if someone has something you want. You know you can work you can beg or you can take um so I think it has a lot to do with.

01:43:52.82

mikebledsoe

Now.

01:44:05.90

mikebledsoe

Or.

01:43:51.67

Max Shank

Fact that we can get our needs met relatively smoothly and I think if you had let's say a dis because I'm not a fan of how taxpayer dollars are managed at all because that's all government is it's all all of our pooled resources put to work by a few. Ah. Clever folks. But I think if you were to dissolve that whole system. Ah it would be a really shaky turbulent. Ah very chaotic adjustment period because the whole concept of. dollars and cents and retirements and everything would just completely collapse and all of these agreements based on that old system would also collapse so all of your existing contracts would basically be like I'm gonna just not.

01:46:08.66

mikebledsoe

Well, a lot of a lot of these structures are are corporate in nature and so these agreements and so any agreements you have with government I mean it's a corporate. It's an agreement between a corporation and an individual which is technically like unlawful.

01:45:43.21

Max Shank

Do that anymore.

01:46:13.47

Max Shank

Right? But those ah but those agreements are basically just for if you have to go to a court.

01:46:46.74

mikebledsoe

In a way. But.

01:46:56.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah there I got a I got a show coming out with Jesse Elder where he covers the whole going to court thing but the which I think will be interesting but I want I want to take this back to the the idea that that do we live. My argument is we already live in anarchy right? And so the I was thinking about this the other day is so there's a war between well I'm about to explain it. So everyone everyone thinks that there's a rule of law right? like the United States is like it's it's not ruled by men. It's ruled by law.

01:47:21.70

Max Shank

Why do we live in anarchy. Okay.

01:47:46.37

Max Shank

Sometimes.

01:48:14.78

mikebledsoe

And so that's that was that's kind of the concept of the United States it's not necessarily how it's resulted, but that's the concept was to to keep us out of trouble. But if we get outside of the United States and we go global. We have global anarchy right? the.

01:47:57.31

Max Shank

Right.

01:48:53.24

mikebledsoe

There is no. There is no authority that makes the countries behave So some of these.

01:48:32.10

Max Shank

Maybe oligarchy maybe more like an oligarchy than total anarchy like I think there's a lot of power centers and unions and allegiances that guide the flow of the world.

01:49:22.52

mikebledsoe

There are there are the um that that are a lot less oligarchies. Well depends on the oligarch like what system you're using can be less violent. You mean you could say that like Elon Musk is probably None of the most powerful people on the planet. Not probably He's more powerful than most countries. Ah and ah, but all the interaction with him and his stuff is is voluntary. So it's it's a less. He may be he may be in charge of people's minds in a way because he's deciding you know what? they.

01:49:54.17

Max Shank

Which is amazing. Ah, right.

01:50:38.78

mikebledsoe

They may be seeing because he controls that way, but it's not.. It's not overtly coercive or or violent. Um, but if we if we extrapolate out and we go what keeps these nations like what supersedes the nation you know and some people might say Nato UN. Ah, have all these different organizations where these countries send representatives and they jerk each other off for a few days and then go back. Ah these that the truth is is the only thing that keeps anyone from fucking with anybody else is the possibility of total destruction. There's an entire global strategy going on by each country On. You have a few powers that are trying to dominate. But there's all these allies that are created and rules and and and they're generating all this stuff but generally like if you I think people. People are under this false premise of there is law and order that's produced by human beings. But it's completely inaccurate because if we keep going to a larger Magnitude. We start seeing that there's nothing other than brute force and power that is. That is in charge and so in which case I say that that's truly just Anarchy. We already exist under it. But the problem is is we suffer under a ah like ah this illusion because people don't ah. Because they put their trust in the illusion. They never take personal responsibility. They never become their own ruler. They never make their own decisions. They never learn to protect themselves feed themselves provide for themselves and so they're putting the trust in something illusory that can change at a moment's notice. And put them out in the cold.

01:54:07.63

Max Shank

Um, yeah I I tend to think that all ah Authority matters are resolved that way with the threat of total destruction on a micro level and on a macro level. You know the.

01:55:06.22

mikebledsoe

M.

01:54:45.33

Max Shank

Way that individuals are ruled the way that countries are ruled the way that countries rule over each other.. It's always the threat of total destruction and you know self-preservation is a very powerful instinct and I think that's probably what drives ah countries more than anything. Is the self-preservation Instinct of the rulers.

01:55:59.64

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, gotta be I mean I think that's just everybody.

01:55:39.27

Max Shank

Keep the power get a little bit more keep the power get a little bit more because it never ends it very rarely ends well like the dictator doesn't like ride off into the sunset and be like hey guys I had fun oppressing the shit out of you. Thank you for letting me just go on.

01:56:36.86

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well when was the last time there was a dictator that like died of natural causes and everybody all the your country. The country was like oh yeah, ah.

01:56:14.47

Max Shank

Down the dusty road dude North Korea North Korea one of my favorite front. None of my favorite stories ever I another plug for dictators playbook. Very good series. The story of ah Kim il-sung. And then ah Kim Jong -il and now kim jong un none generation dictatorship pretty good for the modern era he is repressing the shit out of those people's ability to see information and see what other life is like he's smeared the hell out of the fat americans it's incredible.

01:57:29.64

mikebledsoe

Now. Yeah.

01:58:00.28

mikebledsoe

I need to I need to watch this. It sounds.

01:57:33.19

Max Shank

Ah, anyway, Kim il-sung dot died of natural causes. Kim Jong -il also died of natural causes. Kim Jong un maybe eating himself to death. But that's still a natural cause basically like it's incredible.

01:58:25.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well what I'm saying yeah but people aren't happy what I'm saying is like has anyone ah as a dictator ever like died and then everyone's like oh genuinely sad.

01:58:17.75

Max Shank

There is way less obesity in North Korea than the United States that's a fact that's a fact.

01:58:57.48

mikebledsoe

Did you did you listen to that? Ah interview Rogan did with um that North Korean woman who escaped at fucking crazy. Totally worth listening to.

01:58:44.51

Max Shank

Um, yeah I did it was wild. Loved it. Dude That's the history of the world is like awful awful stuff like that look at all the like torture shame the the um juxtaposition of. Art and war as ah, vessels for this oscillation between order and chaos is Incredible. We're making these beautiful pieces of art. We're you know, putting together quilts and nice things for people and medicines and then we have like these. Ah. Mechanical suppositories that expand up your anus as torture and you just have these like weird is such ah, an insane level of destruction and violent and then creation and cooperation and you know optimism. I Mean human beings are insane and then a few of them get really insane and are like I will lead these people and then and then I here's what I think happens I don't think this is going to be a very popular take but I think ah. Most of the most of the guys who went and did these insane things. It was really like the whispers of a lady that was driving him. You know what? I mean I think we we cannot. We cannot Blame. Ah.

02:02:04.24

mikebledsoe

Oh yeah.

02:01:53.57

Max Shank

White We We can't make white men the whipping boy of all the evil shit. That's ever been Done. You know ladies men of all colors of all creeds have oppressed people I'm sure that there were Queens who would tease their king about the size of his kingdom. And just nag nag nag him until he conquered the neighbors be like you call this a kingdom This is the tiniest Kingdom. That's what I think yeah.

02:03:07.16

mikebledsoe

I think that was like Alexander the great alexander the great. Yeah and what's her name or is it Ashley and I got this conversation the other day which was we we take we take like things that are really hot. Like unstable topics in society and then we debate them in the car and because she grew up in the bay where there's a very she grew up in a very left leaning view. So there's a lot of opportunity for me to ask her questions just had a curiosity is like okay how is.

02:03:38.67

Max Shank

Ah.

02:04:22.20

mikebledsoe

Okay, this is how I understand this situation. What's the okay, what's going on over there and she tells me I'm like okay have are those people have they considered this so no, okay, cool and so it's like it ends up in a interesting conversation. So one was um, we were listening to a show. They're talking about. Um you know, ah, ah, equity like equity amongst men and women for pay right? who you know men men generally get paid more money than women and so the feminist movement has been. Incredibly focused on money in in regard to things not being fair and so and so that was my that was my so we got in this conversation. so so yeah yeah so Ashley's like you know it's unfair and.

02:05:19.71

Max Shank

They already spend all the money. There are so many reasons for there are so many reasons for this I mean. Okay.

02:06:16.72

mikebledsoe

And I was like I was like well have we talked about all the contributing factors to why it might be that way and then the number one? Well the None thing that I came up with not came up with but like the None stat that we looked at was ah okay. So men make how much more money on average and women for the same type of work. Okay, well, who spends the money who who spends more money. It's like well the women spend 70% of all the money on.

02:06:44.45

Max Shank

But there there are like 10 different reasons that things usually are this way if it was so clear cut as like the Twitter sized argument would have you believe then every smart businessman would just hire women I would save.

02:07:45.74

mikebledsoe

Totally.

02:07:24.37

Max Shank

I would save 25% on my ah payroll and I would be because if it's the same job for ah 25% less money. You would be a fool not to do it. You would have just factories. You would only have women employees. It would only be women working ah like why wouldn't you why wouldn't you no no, it's it's stupid. It's just another distraction. We have so much more in common.

02:08:32.48

mikebledsoe

That's that's a really good point or because of discrimination people are are misogynist What it's It's ah it's a. Well the thing the thing is is people people will they look at the result and then they they that that's the explanation. Oh. There's not this so it must be.. It must be that that person that men are generally bad at you know that are generally misogynistic.

02:08:37.10

Max Shank

Ah, then we have different.

02:09:41.72

mikebledsoe

So There's this like the proof for a lot of people. The proof is in the the lack of equity versus getting into all the little things that might contribute to that and you make a really good point because you know what? if if I could get away with that I do the same thing and. And then you could like claim to be nobles like oh I I Only hire women and and in the background you know you, you're making more money That's not necessarily I don't see in the conversations I yeah.

02:09:53.91

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

02:10:09.43

Max Shank

It's just like a different type of sexism I mean I don't think I think more than people being like pro-man or pro lady or anti-man or anti-lady people are just selfish understandably. So. You're the only None living your experience. You're the only one responsible for it if you can get a few extra points of street cred for talking shit. Why wouldn't you I mean we talked about how effective lying is talking shit is so effective I mean do you think Tom Sawyer painted the fence. No. Sweet talked the other kid and said hey wouldn't you like to paint this fence I will trade you the opportunity of painting this fence for that shiny red Apple you got and so he's there eating the Apple while this guy is so happy that he now has the opportunity to build a fence so people are just. Selfish and they realize that they can talk to get attention and energy and that kind of thing instead of work and there are so many I mean my god we could talk all day about this like alleged discrimination between men and women. But um. This is a contest that nobody wins there's no way to win this discussion because it's like hey did you know that men kill themselves 4 times more than women they're like no I didn't know that is like well can you just like fucking eat the quarter and like. Not worry I mean we're dying 4 times as much at our own hand like is it really? So amazing. Yeah.

02:13:43.26

mikebledsoe

Well 98% of workplace deaths are men as well like I it's like is what.

02:13:27.69

Max Shank

But but that's that's the whole point is like people just do what they want to do that's all and quite frankly, you know if you're a lady you can just get really hot and nice. But if you're a fella I mean I guess you could do that too like you could be a cabana boy. Type of ah life strategy I've considered it I've done the entrepreneurship thing for a while but I've also considered what if I put the same amount of dedication to being like a really like goodlooking Kabana boy right? and just like teach yoga classes by the pool of some like rich lady. And my whole responsibility is just like oh a little more suntann for you I'll whip up a little ah sandwich for you there like that's totally a strategy and maybe I would earn more doing that than what I'm currently doing so. It's fine, but it's just that usually the way that a guy shows.

02:15:33.80

mikebledsoe

Maybe maybe.

02:15:21.39

Max Shank

Ah, dominance in the hierarchy is by making lots of money That's usually how it is and then if you like get the gender roles confused sometimes you have people chasing things that don't even feel good to them. They just do it because they think they're supposed to and that's.

02:15:54.00

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah.

02:16:21.18

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

02:15:59.83

Max Shank

I think that is ah actually really scary spent a lot of energy getting something that you didn't even want in the None place.

02:16:31.36

mikebledsoe

You know. Yeah Jordan Peterson was talking about a ah ah a concept that women are just generally more intelligent than men they they are generally have more opportunities at. Through childhood and adolescence and because guys tend to only be really good at None thing and then they throw themselves completely into it and engineering might be a really good example of this is men are were sport men men.

02:17:15.75

Max Shank

Or sport.

02:17:54.79

mikebledsoe

We'll use engineers for as an example, why do engineers get paid more than women. Well most engineers didn't do.

02:17:32.81

Max Shank

Well not, they don't necessarily. It's just engineering people get paid more than nursing people typically.

02:18:13.58

mikebledsoe

Well well why are there more male engineers than female engineers This was this was this was the question being talked about and now I'm gonna give it to you but but the the the thing that he was proposing is that.

02:18:00.59

Max Shank

Are you looking for an answer. Are you going to give it to me. Okay I have ideas.

02:18:51.76

mikebledsoe

Women have more opportunities through their youth because they're generally more intelligent and don't dedicate themselves wholly to None subject whereas men tend to be a little less intelligent and in a broad and a broad amount of subjects whereas. And it has less to do with like level of intelligence versus being able to be intelligent at a lot of things versus just None thing so men at for a lot of engineers. They they sucked at english history. All the stuff that wasn't mathematics. But then there's a lot of women who were pretty good at mathematics. But they were also really good at english and. History and all these other subjects so there wasn't this this force of focus in order to be become valuable. So I think that between between you know, if you look at just math mathematicians out in the world like the highest levels are men but.

02:19:57.17

Max Shank

Yeah.

02:20:47.10

mikebledsoe

Women are generally if you were to look at the averages. The average woman is better at it than the average man but men tend to to live more at the extremes when it comes to these things and so that person's more likely to get to become a high paid engineer than the average woman and so.

02:20:34.29

Max Shank

I see ah.

02:20:48.79

Max Shank

Um.

02:21:26.68

mikebledsoe

Um, because women have the argument he was making is because women have more opportunities than men they actually may not get completely focused into a ah vocation. That's gonna pay really really well and the other thing is to the point you were making earlier is. Men are generally generally ah judged on their their finances and their financial success and women are generally ah their status comes from being beautiful and so if you're a woman and and.

02:22:05.31

Max Shank

Or the or the niceness of the Shark cuttery board that they can lay out.

02:22:45.48

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah for that that would be the case for me my girlfriend won me over with sharuery boards.

02:22:24.29

Max Shank

Like for a like party planning like that's ah that's a skill that among the other ladies I don't think I'm being crazy here. That's a skill where everyone else would be like man look at that meat and cheese plate. There are dried apricots on there that looks that looks amazing right.

02:23:20.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but but if you're a woman and you have many different interests and you don't dedicate yourself into a single field and then in the background. There's also this the majority of your focuses on status that involves beauty as well. So you have this social.

02:23:26.97

Max Shank

Oh right.

02:23:58.20

mikebledsoe

Social pressure being beautiful and then you also have a lot of opportunities academically and then you got guys are like you know I just got to get good at 1 thing and they just throw themselves at it and so that that's 1 explanation of like why there might be some discrepancy.

02:23:51.85

Max Shank

I Think it's I think it's even simpler I think that men and women generally get pushed a certain direction and guys who might naturally be more creative. Get funneled into something that is more utilitarian and women who might be more math and science and technology oriented might get diverted off toward like barbies and art and that kind of thing. Because I think that's just the the natural momentum of our culture is that girls do girly things and guys do manly things and so it's just when there's an intersection of your preference. However, that was derived and your ability.

02:26:18.54

mikebledsoe

I Mean that's generally true.

02:25:55.17

Max Shank

Yeah, and that's also why ah you know nurses are typically women and they're a little bit more nurturing and interestingly enough I think it's a really interesting. It's an interesting example because I think that is. Ah, much more difficult skill to replicate with technology this idea that you'll be Able. You'll be able to diagnose with a supercomputer with I would imagine tremendous accuracy but the.

02:27:10.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, not possible.

02:27:05.50

Max Shank

The bedside care and the nursing and that sort of thing seems really hard to replicate with ah with tech I think Ais are gonna doctor it up and the nurses there's just gonna be a bunch of ladies doing a great job. Um, you know.

02:27:46.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the ai is going to do that anytime soon.

02:28:10.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well there, there's um, well that.

02:27:43.61

Max Shank

Talking and listening chatting doing skills. It's a high so that's that's and some things just don't get rewarded very well like nursing holy fuck. Okay, that's the perfect example I think it seems like None of the hardest jobs around you're in a pretty scary place all the time. Working pretty tough hours with difficult people quite frankly, right? and and you're like getting okay money. It's like okay but talk about difficult.

02:28:57.52

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

02:29:08.40

mikebledsoe

Now Now incredibly yeah I wouldn't want to do it. It sounds terrible.

02:28:59.53

Max Shank

I Don't even like being in hospitals. It's like my one of my least favorite places.

02:29:38.28

mikebledsoe

Yeah, let's wrap this bad boy up where we.

02:29:17.65

Max Shank

Okay, so today's show was called chaos we tried to bring order to it but we just couldn't figure out a way to put it in there. Ah ah well they define each other.

02:30:09.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, we didn't really talk about order much.

02:29:57.50

Max Shank

Right? We talked a lot about the hierarchies in society I think that order can bring a lot of peace to your life. Um, so maybe the the takeaway I would wrap up with is. Dose yourself with some chaos do some? Ah do some tough conversations with someone have like a heated debate and do some roughhousing and playing that is introducing chaos in ah in a safe environment and then you know bring. Bring order into your life by trying to automate as many things as you can to make your life easier. So maybe there's those None things what I would say keep it practical.

02:31:54.12

mikebledsoe

Know well sudden. Yeah, but both are necessary. Nothing to be Judged. You know having order and not good or bad chaos. Not good or bad. Both are necessary for the development of culture. It's necessary for the development of human beings we go through these phases. And I find that it's it brings a lot more peace when you're in when you can acknowledge what phase you're in and go oh it's a little chaotic if I want things to be different and you know what's the order I want to create and just being being aware of these things can help you move through things a lot more. Smoothly max where can they find you.

02:32:55.55

Max Shank

http://maxshank.com or at max shank.

02:33:27.90

mikebledsoe

Check me out Instagram at Mike Underscore Bletso and you can check out things at the http://bletsoshow.com I also got a summit for the coaches coming up in June if you want to check that out. Go to shop dot destrongcoach dot com. But y'all loving next.

02:33:42.73

Max Shank

Bye later.

May 12, 2022

Ben Greenfield is a leader in the health industry. He’s spent most of his life building his business… and lately, he’s been committed to being the best father, husband, and man he can be 

 

He’s learned a lot about both along the way, and in this episode, he shares his best insights into how you can do both for yourself

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