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The show formerly known as "Bledsopia" On this podcast, you’ll learn from thought leaders who are dedicating their lives to being a positive force for your physical, psycho-emotional and spiritual health. Your host, Mike Bledsoe, seeker of truth & perpetual student, spotlights premier thought leaders in the fields of emotional & intellectual expansion, behavior change, sexuality & alternative medicine that empower you with the tools and inspiration to transform your mind, body, & spirit. Every week, this is your opportunity to get downloads from exceptional people that will guide you to the connections between your own source, to live your best life & enjoy the process.
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Oct 11, 2021

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00:01.87

mikebledsoe

So so what's a coach max.

00:04.97

Max Shank

Ah, Coach is someone who gets you to do what you know you should mike.

00:09.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, pretty simple, pretty simple shit. It's like I I tell coaches all the time that ah you know their clients know they're not supposed to eat that donut but they do it anyway.

00:15.80

Max Shank

Well.

00:27.47

mikebledsoe

You know if our job was to just get people Macros then you know robots to be doing this shit for us but people have real that the problems are are psychological. They're environmental. There's a lot of different factors there. They know what to do.

00:41.65

Max Shank

All of the all of the real difficult problems are psychological like physical problems are pretty straightforward unless they're stemming from a mental dysfunction of some kind like even guys with no legs end up on a good training program. So There's like the guy who's like oh well, my you know my ankle just hurts too much to exercise like look I know guys with no legs who exercise more than you do. It's not that you don't have the ability and it's hard to be honest with yourself about these things I mean the reality is. Our biggest barrier to getting the things we want is ourself by far and if you don't accept that then you're going to be in a state of like victim victimization and blaming your problems on other people.

01:33.22

mikebledsoe

You know.

01:35.00

Max Shank

Right? So everything is psychological. That's why when we were talking about coaching earlier I was thinking you know it makes sense that people want something That's just done for them like give me this nutrition plan. It's so straightforward just give me this marketing plan. Give me you know, tell me how many bullet points.

01:51.35

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, somebody knocking at my door positive real quick I think I have to sign for a package. Yeah, so the the post postal service just stopped by.

01:54.97

Max Shank

I Need to put in my offer. Ah yeah, okay at the.

02:09.47

mikebledsoe

And um, they had a package for me and my girlfriend and from a girlfriend. Ah they asked I said hey because of the virus. Ah you I I can't You're supposed to sign this but you can't sign it because of the virus. But with your permission I'll sign it for you said sure this is my name and goes. Okay, Thank you.

02:34.36

Max Shank

Ah huh.

02:37.18

mikebledsoe

What what? what? fucking good is a signature these days.

02:41.65

Max Shank

I Guess in that situation. It's completely worthless. Yeah.

02:46.22

mikebledsoe

Completely worthless. So anyways and I forgot what we're talking about but we we were talking about productivity. Well we're trying to go down productivity.

02:52.17

Max Shank

Oh I remember don't Worry. We're well I mean I'm sure this is gonna be a heck of a fun time to edit this into a seamless transition but with with coaching the reason. That when it comes to business or nutrition or exercise people are just like give me the program tell me how many almonds to eat and when to eat them tell me tell me how many bullet points I need in my sales pitch tell me that I need 3 say here are the things that you're missing and I need 3 that say here are the secrets that you need or something like that right people want it done for them and the reason they want it done for them is because real deep change. Is crazy uncomfortable because it's psychological. It's essentially some sort of psychological trauma and very ingrained behavior that causes someone to slowly kill themselves with Donuts. For example.

04:04.78

mikebledsoe

You know? Yeah yeah, well it makes me think about the hermetic principles and the first of the hermetic principles is everything is mental.

04:08.47

Max Shank

And just.

04:15.97

Max Shank

Right.

04:17.97

mikebledsoe

And that I mean I think those principles are about 3000 years old to the best of our knowledge and that has been repeatedly supported over and over again.

04:32.85

Max Shank

Well, and even if it's not absolutely true. It's the most constructive belief to have right? because every all words are trying to be symbols for something else and.

04:41.21

mikebledsoe

It's empowering. Yeah.

04:51.15

Max Shank

None of them are going to be absolutely true, but some of them are going to be very constructive or empowering like you said that's a good way to put it So what? What are the most empowering ah lies available to you instead of the most destructive lies available to you.

05:06.31

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, yeah, you know I wish I had that frame when I was younger I would have I was so caught up and figuring out what was true or not that I I totally didn't see that I I was if somebody was duping me I was getting duped.

05:15.20

Max Shank

Yeah.

05:25.56

mikebledsoe

By this pursuit that there's ah a right and a wrong way and there's the truth and there's a lie. It's like oh no, it's just all lies. It's just all different flavors. So useful or not. We talked about that last show.

05:33.50

Max Shank

Um, yeah, yeah, buyer beware exactly.

05:41.39

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you're talking about like people want things done for them. They want the result. Um, they're not really focused on how to get the result unless it.

05:51.21

Max Shank

Or why they are where they are It's deeply uncomfortable I mean I've had so many I mean I've coached a lot of people in fifteen plus years of personal training and there are people who I say the word food. And they're like I don't want to talk about it I don't want to talk about food and I'm like okay this is interesting. You know you're a hundred pounds overweight and I like doing these squats with you but I don't think we're going to solve the problem in here.

06:09.74

mikebledsoe

Ah.

06:25.35

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, there's ah.

06:27.90

Max Shank

I mean I'm getting I'm getting paid big money big money to help this person exercise and feel better. But I mean you're 1 hundred pounds overweight like I'm not going to solve this I could crack a whip. While you ride a bicycle or cross- country ski for an hour There's just no way that we're going to be able to resolve the real problem and the reason ah people avoid is because it's deeply uncomfortable your ego and your identity gets wrapped up into this selfim image and and that's. It's it's way more uncomfortable and that's why people don't want to face those uncomfortable ah truths about themselves and that's why they just want just do it for me I don't want to look at it I don't want to face it.

07:03.16

mikebledsoe

Play for yeah.

07:14.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well coaches do the same thing. Coaches are comfortable with training people. But they're not comfortable. It can be uncomfortable to talk have that conversation with someone says hey you're you're sick. You're. You're way overweight. You're obese you need to change your diet and you know I think a lot of coaches just they don't know how to approach the conversation and that's that's a skill in itself I remember a point where I i.

07:43.66

Max Shank

And.

07:53.10

mikebledsoe

Felt as though I had no business telling my clients who were there to get results how they should live their lives outside of working out and you know food suggestions. But then I was training a guy that was probably he was about 400 pounds he was over 200 pounds overweight. He was.

08:03.20

Max Shank

Right.

08:12.94

mikebledsoe

He was in bad shape 30 years old just you know like how the fuck does that happen type of guy. Yeah, yeah, and um, you know we were trying everything ah food like nutrition and training wise. Um.

08:16.93

Max Shank

Who hurt him.

08:31.26

mikebledsoe

But then you know as I got to know him better. He worked at a pesticide company like eighty hours a week in a cubicle under fluorescent lights and I'm like like dude that job's killing you. My job is not helping you and I just I got to the point where I was like.

08:39.65

Max Shank

Heavy.

08:50.11

mikebledsoe

Have to tell him this and um and it was helpful for him and it was it started a conversation that unraveled over time but that was that was me as a coach understanding that I can give Lifestyle suggestions I can talk to people about their work and their career that.

09:07.18

Max Shank

Yeah.

09:09.45

mikebledsoe

It's keeping them from reaching their goals. So most coaches are still they still are afraid to have those conversations.

09:15.66

Max Shank

Yeah I mean nothing is off limits if it's approached in the right way and you've built a foundation of some sort of rapport. You know if some if some lady comes in who's overweight. Ah and I don't know her very well I don't go oh hey, when's the Baby. Do. Because that would probably feel very offensive or something like that you know like there's got to be some sort of it'd be humorous, probably not to her but you have to base what you say on, you got to know your audience right? and.

09:40.29

mikebledsoe

Ah, now.

09:50.48

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

09:53.36

Max Shank

There's a compassionate way to have that conversation and usually questions make the most sense and making sure people are are ready to to make that change because you know we're talking about how old wisdoms are so true. Ah, how about you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink like you know that? What's that show intervention where they get all your family together and tell you to stop doing Meth and they're like we love you. We.

10:15.18

mikebledsoe

You know.

10:26.84

mikebledsoe

I I know that's an intervention. There's a show. Okay, yeah.

10:31.38

Max Shank

Yeah, that's what I'm saying Yeah um, that's some good Tv right there by the way that's entertainment. Ah, um, yeah, yeah, totally hey I mean whatever gets your rocks off is what I say.

10:41.66

mikebledsoe

For the sick fucks out there. Yeah I'm with you.

10:51.24

Max Shank

No shame in that game. Ah, but not all of them are are ready. You know you can have ah like the most professional therapist there and a loving family who's like you just wish you just would stop doing drugs and he's like I don't want to then he leaves like that happens Sometimes that guy is not ready.

11:05.77

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, there's um, yeah.

11:10.51

Max Shank

So You got to you got to have a receptive audience. You got to have a receptive Receiver and that's true with business. That's true with relationships like what's that ah, you know what's the 1 advantage you would want in in business if you are selling burgers. Is it The best tasting burger is it The cheapest burger. No no, no, it's a starving crowd someone who is ready to receive the burger like the whole the whole phrase I'm going to sell ice to eskimos is a ridiculous phrase. That's that's not what a good.

11:34.89

mikebledsoe

Yep.

11:47.56

Max Shank

Business person would do they would they would sell them. You know Dura flame Logs and space heaters at an affordable price right? that you know it's you got to have a receptive audience.

11:56.24

mikebledsoe

What? yeah yeah, um, this makes you think about selling people something ah a solution that they actually want and and the way they want it solved. So.

12:09.80

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

12:15.40

mikebledsoe

It's something that I've been really focused on is meeting people where they're at and that how do they want the problem solved sell them that but then also layer in all the stuff That's actually going to make a difference because the truth is is if they solve the problem the way they wanted it solved it just wouldn't be solved. It's not.

12:25.87

Max Shank

Earth.

12:35.80

mikebledsoe

They they would just be able to solve it themselves. They wouldn't be here buying this package So so you got to sell them what they want and give them what they need and all that mess.

12:38.87

Max Shank

Ah, it's like. Well, it reminds me of a phrase. Ah, Beggars can't be choosers but Buyers can.

12:53.50

mikebledsoe

Ah, you know what's funny is I grew up hearing beggars can't be choosers and I never heard the second part did you well? Okay I felt like my dad jipped me up until you filled down like.

13:00.30

Max Shank

That's because I made up the second part. Yeah, no, everybody's dad chipped them like it's a ridiculous face baggars can't be choosers. That's that's like saying you'll always be weak. But leaving out the part unless you exercise but Buyers buyers can be extremely choosy you can if I mean if you have the dough you can make anything go are you kidding me? It's ridiculous. What people will do I can.

13:20.17

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, man, our parents did the best they could.

13:29.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, know now.

13:35.20

Max Shank

I Can swipe my finger on my magic telephone and I can have if I wanted to I could have ah massuse a pizza and drugs delivered to my house probably within the hour.

13:50.98

mikebledsoe

Especially especially if you're in Medine columbia yeah well you have the right? you have the right? Well, there's just fewer people. You can get all the same stuff from there. It's but ah.

13:52.86

Max Shank

That's amazing. Or or if you're here and you have enough to buy it.

14:05.89

Max Shank

Oh I see what you're saying.

14:09.53

mikebledsoe

Ah, it's actually more convenient there believe it or not but ah, ah, do we want to? um, let's dig in a productivity.

14:23.87

Max Shank

Productivity yes, productivity is a competition that entrepreneurs have with each other to see the size of their entrepreneur dick hey blood. So how many books did you read this week

14:37.60

mikebledsoe

Just 1 and a half yeah ah

14:39.39

Max Shank

Fucking pussy I read 7 or it's like ah ah and so I think to just prove my point like the whole idea of the productivity. Ah, as ah as like a status symbol. Is is really unhealthy, right? It's ridiculous. It kind of reminds me of speed reading though too. You know how there's all these things about like oh speed reading and it's like no man like you don't need more information you need.

15:03.38

mikebledsoe

It's ridiculous. Well, there's a few reasons well ah 1 of the things.

15:10.51

mikebledsoe

Like know.

15:16.89

Max Shank

Better retention. You need more application of the stuff you're doing. It might be better to read slower actually so you are not in like this frantic mental state of like I got to get through this as fast as possible I think speed reading is actually um.

15:28.40

mikebledsoe

But what.

15:35.64

Max Shank

Like ah wolf and sheep's clothing kind of where it's like oh yes, be I would like to read that book a lot faster. It's like would you I mean I don't know if.

15:43.70

mikebledsoe

Maybe maybe well here's the thing here's the thing is the um and actually I want to tie this back into coaching later because I want to get into this all it all actually ties in together. But ah. Productivity is like speed reading speed reading is great and some speed reading your comprehension stays the same or goes down in which case, maybe not so great. But if there's a speed reading technique that also Improves retention. Which Jim quick is a guy who claims that not only will you read like 6 times faster but you'll retain 2 to 3 times better as Well. So 1 is are you lowering the quality by by improving the quantity ah and could that. Could it be true that that you could have both and then my the question I ask is well what books are you reading or your speed reading and taking in all this information but is the information useful to you right now is it something that that. Is it actually good information or is it information that's going to take you away from your your goal.. There's just as many bad books out there as there are good books just like everything else in the world.

17:07.66

Max Shank

That's 1 of the that's 1 of the values of a coach is helping you decipher because information is free but a coach helps you decipher which information is going to kill you and which information is going to heal you and this example of.

17:19.82

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and this.

17:25.80

Max Shank

Speed reading makes me think of the difference between active and productive because I think if we're going to talk about productivity. We need to talk about yield like what is the product. What is the gross domestic product. How much production is happening.

17:29.61

mikebledsoe

A.

17:43.58

Max Shank

How much produce is there at the end of it. It's so funny how that word has like everything built and because we think of produce as like fruit basically right fruits and vegetables. But it's it's the product of our effort right? So it's not about whether we are active.

17:54.21

mikebledsoe

Bam. Right? yeah. People do confuse productivity with being busy. Yeah.

18:03.14

Max Shank

Because. Well, that's where the busy badge comes in right? people think there's some sort of honor or moral superiority. If. You're a busy person. Oh I'm just staying busy I'm like oh god I'm so sad for you. You know like Hunter gatherers I can understand why those guys would be busy.

18:24.40

mikebledsoe

Well idle hands are the work of the devil. So.

18:26.33

Max Shank

But.

18:30.17

Max Shank

Ah, ah, ah yeah, you have all these like ah traps of like good and bad because that's what nurture does ah the parent, the parent child role. The coach student role. The teacher student role is all about. Go towards these things and go away from these things. Basically the the whole point really is to have you make better decisions and with human beings. It's a little more complex than with Gorillas Gorillas It's like this green plant is poison and this green plant is food. And they have this really big kind of Encyclopedia of which plants they can eat and that's the most important this is good. This is bad type of nurturing that guerrillas get basically but for human beings.

19:22.93

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

19:26.86

Max Shank

Have all these other complexities where it's like ah yes, ah you know suffering is a virtue so people get this certificate of suffering and oh it's it's good to be busy idle hands for the Devil's plaything um yeah you know it reminds me. There are just so many of these. Traps I always think of it like traps and treasures right? and when it comes to productivity this this false idea that just being active being busy is good. Um, if you're stuck in a rut then.

19:48.11

mikebledsoe

A.

20:04.77

Max Shank

Then getting active is the best thing you can do like if you're doing nothing go for a walk doodle on a piece of paper read a book get back in motion because inertia is a real thing like if you're at zero whatever you can do to go to 1 is great. But.

20:20.79

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and if you can move even if it's not in the right direction. It's usually a pendulum involved. You're gonna wobble around something. Yeah.

20:23.63

Max Shank

The last thing you wanted.

20:28.52

Max Shank

Yeah, you can slingshot around to the other direction you can slingshot around to the other direction. Um, so back to the idea of productive versus active. There are a lot of ways to. Be productive but you have to be aware of what the yield is of what you're doing and I think 1 of the most important things really is just recognizing that being busy isn't inherently good and I think that's really tough for entrepreneurs because there's this mentality. Tough it out and grind through and I can make it but I don't know I I try to instill this idea that we have the benefit of so many ancestors writing down their ideas. We should be able to work like a couple hours a day. And provide for ourselves the exact life that we want to and if you if you compound the effects of your effort It's very easy to do that. But if you don't then it's going to be very difficult.

21:30.29

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

21:39.31

mikebledsoe

You know it's the um thing about being efficient versus effective and when you're talking about yield and so ah, you know, being in the entrepreneurial world and hanging out with a bunch of.

21:49.69

Max Shank

Right.

21:58.53

mikebledsoe

These tech guys So many people are microdosing or taking nootropics so they can get more done in a day but have you ever just sat down and ask yourself what are you building like Great. You're working on this but what's it for you know why. Ah, what's the end result and or you're talking about productivity and yield and and you could look at the quantity of the yield I'm producing something that's generating all this income or or this particular product but is that to me for me the question I ask myself is. Is the product I'm creating and satisfying is is it satisfying to me. Um, and and what's the impact that's having on the entire Planet. You know everybody else as well and is that satisfying is that impact satisfying for me and so I think you have.

22:42.97

Max Shank

Oof yeah.

22:51.44

Max Shank

Oh my God yeah.

22:55.81

mikebledsoe

We have like ah a whole lot of people running around and not just entrepreneurs but like I know people It's probably even worse for people who just have jobs and they're trying to be really productive with their job and then come to find out you know their job is you know liquor distribution and you know. I'm not actually sure I want you to be really good at that like distribution of 1 of the most harmful drugs on the Planet. Ah, and you know I know I'm crazy.

23:23.70

Max Shank

Wait wait wait wait but alcohol is perfectly. Legal Mike How can you say that is fully approved able to be drunk I'm sure by everybody you can buy it right at the store.

23:32.51

mikebledsoe

Is it by the fda is it did the fda prove it. Yeah interesting. Yeah so that.

23:40.90

Max Shank

Once again, there's there's another. There's another like set of rules that that probably ah only make your life worse if you follow them exactly right.

23:51.87

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well and so this makes me think of like how far are we expanding am I more predictive. How am I more productive in this minute what's it mean to be productive. You know for the next sixty seconds. Well.

24:05.93

Max Shank

Well, how do you measure? How do you? What? what are you measuring I mean I.

24:10.70

mikebledsoe

Well, we'll say I'm writing how many words did I write in sixty seconds right so I'm writing a book but but ah all right? We zoom out how do be how do I be productive and in the next hour how do I be more productive in the next day years you start expanding out and then the.

24:14.48

Max Shank

Right? right.

24:25.23

Max Shank

Well.

24:29.29

mikebledsoe

That things that you have to consider and then the actual behavior starts to change huh.

24:29.63

Max Shank

But the amount of words don't mer right? but the amount of words are not equal to your productivity. You have to you could say it's the amount of dollars you could say the profit. Um, even the word product is ah.

24:42.62

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

24:49.87

Max Shank

Multiplication like if you multiply 3 times 2 the product is 6 so just to give like 2 super opposite examples. You could say you know the Meth lord of the appellations has.

24:51.27

mikebledsoe

A.

25:08.85

Max Shank

Ah, really high efficiency and effectiveness. Maybe he makes like a million in profit every week or something like that and he's also dooming people to a life of Meth addiction a short life probably of me addiction but a life of math addiction nonetheless. So that guy is product from a monetary standpoint is extremely high then on the other hand you have let's say a japanese fella who's a a carpenter of some kind and all he does is make that fancy furniture that has no screws in it and it takes him. A ridiculous amount of hours you know and everything has to fit perfectly like a little puzzle and you know let's say he spends wow I don't know enough forty forty hours on something and he sells it for 1000 dollars which doesn't sound like. An amazing hourly rate. But let's just say that's what he does but he's like enjoying the whole process. His father did that before him his father before him you could argue that the product or the result of his effort over time is something extremely valuable and special. And that the experience itself is very good. But if you just measured how much money it brought in you would say that guy is a fool and the Meth lord of the appellations is a genius and he is way more productive. So I think there's a quantitative aspect which.

26:39.26

mikebledsoe

See.

26:45.92

Max Shank

I mean it has to be profit right? or people served um and then there's a qualitative aspect of. Do you enjoy the process and what is this doing to further your um Idea. Of how you'd like to participate in the world something like that.

27:05.48

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's a lot to consider and people normally don't take the time to think these things through they just do. They're trying to survive the next day or the next week so I'm saying that they if you're too if you're shortsighted. You'll just keep doing. Ah, same thing. But if you are able to like a ah guy I know very very successful. He said 1 day ordinary people think in years extraordinary people think in decades and ah the really successful people. And this guy is probably worth close to a billion dollars at this point and he's been playing this game for you know 50 years he's seventy and this this game of accumulation of wealth and from iowa farm boy. So. It's not like it was.

27:59.57

Max Shank

Um, well he understands Leverage clearly.

28:01.69

mikebledsoe

Wasn't taught to him from a as a child on how to do this stuff very much so but he also planned in decades and he somehow because and you know some people are more suited for for this than others and people who.

28:10.18

Max Shank

Yeah.

28:18.41

Max Shank

No doubt.

28:21.42

mikebledsoe

People who have it have more space and money and things like this tend to be able to think further out. But if you're somebody who doesn't have a lot and you can expand your thinking out and consider more that meth idea sounds a lot less attractive than say the carpentry job even though. Total income is higher but but you could also um, you know, maybe that's where they start 1 guy starts at a million. The other guy starts at at at ah a carpenter at at this or that price and man there's just so many other ways to to make that that carpenter.

28:40.37

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

28:58.89

mikebledsoe

More valuable to other people in a way that in his work that he can demand more dollars per per thing he produces.

29:05.65

Max Shank

Well and you know suppose he's like very comfortable with the amount that he's charging right? Um, it all reminds me of the old story. The richest man in Babylon where the 1 guy invests his paycheck with the rich man and his friends all just. Spend their paychecks right away and I was actually on a podcast with a couple of guys who are doctors at johns hopkins and they were like well what's the what's the secret to wealth and I was like deferred gratification. And they're like anything else and I was like no, it's like do you have the ability to trade what you want now for what you want most and if you do you're going to do really? Well if you're.

29:43.79

mikebledsoe

Ah.

29:55.48

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

29:58.24

Max Shank

Using your neocortex if you're using your third eye to come up with a ah plan that involves multiplying yourself and multiplying the yield or the product of your efforts. You will be rich. There's just no question about it and if you trade. What you want most for what you want now, you'll you'll probably be obese you probably won't ever um, make lots and lots of money I mean even something like medical school. That's a big upfront investment with no payoff for quite a while. So the longer you can defer that. Yeah, maybe ever yeah, true and the longer.

30:33.36

mikebledsoe

Maybe ever I Know a lot of people who went to medical school who yeah they have an M D next to her name but they're not even interested in doing that now.

30:45.98

Max Shank

Well I mean look if I could go back in time I would tell myself to drop out of high school because there's a fundamental realities about value that they just like they teach you the opposite you know they.

31:00.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, great.

31:03.47

Max Shank

Write this essay. It has to be 3000 words what? huh like it has to be a certain amount of words this is ridiculous. So it completely misses the point of what is useful. Yeah.

31:09.67

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah I'm actually doing that exercise that exercise you told me about last week wow this is I'm actually like I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna pick it back up later today.

31:20.67

Max Shank

How fun is that amazing. Ah dude we should ah we should read them to each other or we should send them when we're done. You're an animal I Love it. Ah.

31:28.54

mikebledsoe

Ah.

31:33.59

mikebledsoe

I'm going to post mine as a blog. Ah, what we're talking about is letters to our 12 year old selves. So yeah I'm gonna you know what? I I think people would enjoy it There's definitely be some stuff in there. That's gonna.

31:42.54

Max Shank

Yeah, what a great writing exercise.

31:56.39

mikebledsoe

Caused people to cock their head but you know like.

31:58.68

Max Shank

Mind mindsful of horribly obscene jokes. Um.

32:05.88

mikebledsoe

Ah, so what's cool about that exercise is we do get to zoom out on time and retrospectively and 1 of the the benefits of writing a letter to 12 year old self that I've found already is that a lot of the advice I'm giving my 12 year old self is the same advice I give myself now.

32:23.50

Max Shank

Right? Just just probably in a simpler and kinder way.

32:24.75

mikebledsoe

Ah. Yeah,, there's There's a lot.. There's a lot of stuff I was telling myself that's not for me now. But there's also some things in there where it's like do less of this and more of that like yeah I could do more less of that more that now. Um, but yeah I think I think.

32:39.53

Max Shank

M.

32:46.35

mikebledsoe

Understanding and what we're talking about here is being effective knowing knowing the end result of your work and I tell people it's like efficiency is great. But if you're not, you know if that's your sole focus is efficiency where a lot of people when they think about productivity they think about efficiency and. It is ah ah just it's going back to that busy thing like what are you doing? Why are you doing it. What's the end result whether there's money involved or not.

33:17.69

Max Shank

I would say that productive is anything that brings you toward what you want I think that's maybe even better. So like let's say ah you you have this desired identity.

33:23.30

mikebledsoe

No I like that. So.

33:35.64

Max Shank

And I think I've talked to you about this before you know Simon Sinek has that thing it starts with why James clear's ah, Habit stuff is by me synthesized into it starts with who and you have this I you have this self image.

33:38.98

mikebledsoe

Start a.

33:45.64

mikebledsoe

Ah.

33:53.56

Max Shank

Right? You have this idea of yourself and what you would like that self to look like so anything that brings you closer to that ultimate ideal is going to be productive right? It doesn't have to just be um. You know X amount of profits. That's usually a byproduct of your enthusiasm and impact.

34:18.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah, what about Ah I don't think we can talk about productivity or any of this without time about goal setting because the ah because that's exactly what you're talking about is well what is it that you want to achieve. And actually sitting down to think about these things I think again going back to the decades. It's like what do you want to achieve this is where I start all my students is what do you want to be different in ten years and than it is right now who do you have to be to your point who do you have to be. Who is the person who does this are you committed to becoming that person and what.

34:58.58

Max Shank

Right? Or or like I tell people you know what would you want to have done if you couldn't get any credit just to hone in on what you really think is valuable like who you really want to help with.

35:08.55

mikebledsoe

Yeah I mean that's a whole other. Yeah, that's a whole other conversation like what do you really? desire? Most people have no idea what their desires are you put a you put a because behind a goal and they have to tell you why if it's a real goal if it's actually their goal. It'll give it teeth. It's not their goal and maybe it's their dad's goal for them or what they imagine? yeah.

35:30.50

Max Shank

Second hand I think I think um, pretty much every goal is second hand most of it's just dependent on how we want to fit into the hierarchy. You know as a male I'm guessing most of the people listening to it are fellows. But if there any ladies out there. Hello ladies. Ah.

35:38.94

mikebledsoe

A.

35:45.39

mikebledsoe

Seventy five percent guys yeah what

35:49.70

Max Shank

Seventy five percent guys yeah that doesn't surprise me. Um, what's interesting and is in our culture. Ah men don't really have intrinsic value. Their value is correlated to what they can produce whereas women and children have intrinsic value.

36:01.27

mikebledsoe

Where.

36:07.80

Max Shank

That's why if the boat sinks you and I like are somehow left out of the fucking lifeboats because they're like what about those guys? Yeah yeah, what? what can we have enough paddlers already. They have no value. Yeah, so easy.

36:16.42

mikebledsoe

We can get. We can get more of them. They're easy disposable.

36:24.15

Max Shank

So it's all Ah, it's all related to what you can produce I mean the reason that fellasas get mansions and Ferraris isn't to like impress their other guy friends. It's to show that they ah deserve a good lady and that they can be a protector and that they're alpha yeah that they're alpha.

36:31.86

mikebledsoe

No no.

36:38.24

mikebledsoe

Produce and protect. Yeah.

36:43.79

Max Shank

In some way, right? It used to be like oh who's the really the really big man who has like a really big stick and can club a mammoth I don't know what it was really like probably something like that and now and now it's more like. Who's the guy with the mx black card that guy can that guy can do anything kind of back to our that adds like 5 inches to your penis size. Are you kidding me and it goes back to our phrase of beggars can't be choosers but Buyers can.

37:03.90

mikebledsoe

Like you whip it out slap down the counter hear. It thud the yeah at least? yeah.

37:21.61

Max Shank

I Mean that's ah, that's a blank Check you can have anything you want in that life and most of the problems that you might be concerned about that. Keep you in that lizard brain immediate decision making. Kind of evaporate you know money doesn't solve everything. Certainly there are lots of problems that a money doesn't solve but some of them it solves instantly like some some some real problems like I've been I've been very broke well look I've been.

37:42.95

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well most the problems that people who don't have it are are experiencing.

37:53.61

Max Shank

Very broke. Ah, and I've been not broke and the second 1 is way way way better like it. It didn't solve every problem I have but it's way better. So I think um, as ah as a man, there's a.

37:59.42

mikebledsoe

Way better. Oh.

38:13.10

Max Shank

There's a certain reality to the fact that we don't have an intrinsic value. It's just what we can produce so a lot of people just blindly chase that goal because that's that's what they've Seen. You know that's the current mythology if you're a rich guy hey great and if you're a poor guy good luck. Good luck finding a lady I think that's what made that book fifty shades of gray work out so well because the guy was really rich if it was like ah a fry cook at Mcdonald's like beating some lady in his mom's basement I don't think it would like sell any copies at all.

38:50.46

mikebledsoe

Um, ah so True. Um I I was reading a book on relationships and they made a really solid point which is men are judged on ah their success. Basically their financial success. And women are judged on their beauty and if if women if you know sometimes women talk about you know it's not fair this and that it's not fair for guys either like like if how what percentage of guys are really wealthy. You know, probably about his.

39:19.86

Max Shank

Oh.

39:27.21

mikebledsoe

The the same percentage of women who are really beautiful and you know women get to enjoy the the results of their beauty at a young age and men get to ah experience the success later in the game. So It's you know. Like a woman who's passed her prime. It's like well you did have a prime and maybe this guy's just not there yet. So It is I mean this is just exactly why there's a lot of older men dating younger women but not a lot of older women dating younger men. It just doesn't make sense.

39:59.22

Max Shank

I was just thinking about that and isn't it funny to see who gets really pissed off by those relationships I think hey look I mean if that 20 year old lady wants that guy for his money and he wants her for her looks then they deserve each other.

40:05.79

mikebledsoe

Yeah I.

40:17.41

mikebledsoe

Perfect match. Yeah I watch people get upset about other people's relationships like man how she treats him or how he treats her or how they are together I'm like yeah the perfect match. What do you expect like.

40:17.79

Max Shank

I Mean what the heck's wrong with that that they they they know what they're getting into.

40:32.80

Max Shank

It's probably just virtue signaling right? is probably just hoping that their ah faux outrage can attract the ah attention of someone on their level right? Oh yeah, I'm I'm upset by that too. How could that.

40:43.50

mikebledsoe

So that's right? Um, um, um, not only yeah, we're both better than them. Yeah, it's crazy why I well and I think there's going back I Want to go back to like the the beginning beginning. Um.

40:48.89

Max Shank

Oil tycoon marry that stripper I was like you don't get it.

41:02.72

mikebledsoe

And talk about people doing shit that they really don't want to do like if you really want to be productive and effective in the ways that you want to be most of the time you got to do things differently than the way you're doing them now and breaking those patterns can be really really difficult. Um, are you familiar with the four tendencies. There's a personality test.

41:21.48

Max Shank

No I think I have a few more tendencies in that but I can't discuss them on the podcast.

41:27.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it basically breaks it down into like there's really good information for coaches to know the four tendencies 1 of my 1 of my coaches actually put together presentation. Um, and which is living inside my little academy but ah. The idea is there are four tendencies that are made above 2 different attributes. 1 is I either. Ah want to meet the expectations of those outside of myself or I want to meet the expectations inside like that I have for myself. And then there's the rebellious piece which is like I reject the expectations of people outside of myself and I reject that inside of myself. So someone who is meeting the expectations externally and internally would be called I think it's an upholder and this person tends to be very effective is.

42:14.26

Max Shank

Flow.

42:21.61

Max Shank

No doubt.

42:23.35

mikebledsoe

They're meeting the expectations of the world and they have high expectations of themselves and they're always doing that they seem very orderly. They they follow the rules um and they don't need accountability. They're just they're accountable. Yeah, you can count on them and then you have you know the questioner.

42:32.20

Max Shank

Accountable, No no, they are accountable like you can count on them like they'll get it done.

42:42.40

mikebledsoe

And someone who Upholds their own but they they need a good reason if it's coming from outside you know if if they just they're gonna ask a lot of questions this and that and then there's ah, there's the person who ah will ah how it's a.

42:48.30

Max Shank

Her.

43:00.81

mikebledsoe

The obliger and this is the person who won't hold that their own expectations. They'll break their own expectations but they will definitely meet the expectations of the others. Yeah, and then there's the rebel who rejects the expectations internally and externally.

43:08.88

Max Shank

So it's like a matrix. Basically.

43:18.42

Max Shank

Um, I've been there.

43:20.41

mikebledsoe

And so ah so I ah you know I I don't think that like you're all the way 1 or another but I took the test and I fall heavily into the the rebellious side like rebellious maybe a little bit of questioning. Yeah yeah, so.

43:33.71

Max Shank

No, do you I'm shocked by that.

43:39.46

mikebledsoe

Ah, oh what's funny is I've been frustrated my the majority of my life have been frustrated and that I'll set goals and then just ah, my lack of consistency ah with with certain things. Some things I can be very consistent with other things I haven't. So ah, that's something that's plagued me my whole life and actually to me. It's a blessing because if I can figure out how to be productive and get things done I can teach anyone how to do it because the the Rebel the Rebel Ah really? Ah. What motivates a rebel is that they are experiencing choice. They need to think at least perceive that they have a choice from moment to moment and what they're gonna do right? and so because I have this tendency to ah. I I value choice over accountability or meeting expectations. Um, if I really want something I set up structures in my life to where I make the choices they're going to get me there. Easy. So I I yeah.

44:47.25

Max Shank

Um, probably makes you an excellent coach.

44:55.13

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so like I I know how to create structure for my own life in a way that guides me towards where I want to go for someone who has no interest in impressing other people or even myself and really is much more likely to just do things that feel good in the moment. Ah, and so there's It's like ah it's been a constant battle my whole life and as I've gotten older I've gotten very skilled at like if you walk into my home. You can you like you will immediately know this home is different. This home is made to you know I want to be healthy. So like there's. I've got a couple chairs but it's mostly floor seating. There's I make sure there's always fresh spring water available I have my gym space. That's always like like it's made for me to work work out and eat healthy like I have every. Piece of culinary tool that I need to to make a good meal I have yeah I have ah I have a grocery service that delivers food every week and I and I have ah have ah a software that I basically work off all the time.

45:58.80

Max Shank

It's like a trail of breadcrumbs that leads you to doing the right thing.

46:12.89

mikebledsoe

And I click ah when it's time for me to order the groceries it pops up I go in there I select the groceries takes me five minutes and then it automatically gets shipped I don't I don't have to hit the order button ever. So there's all these things these structures and these conditions I put in place that.

46:24.48

Max Shank

Um, and.

46:32.83

mikebledsoe

Really caused me to go that Direction. So Ah so what I found for myself. The other thing I have to do that that I don't think many other people do do is really set up a vision for my own life that that I. Um, excited about enough to create those structures to go through all the hassle knowing that you know I'm not going to feel like it tomorrow to do something I have to have to be very good with my planning and I find that I don't want to plan as much as.

46:51.91

Max Shank

Ah.

47:11.50

mikebledsoe

As much as a lot of other people want to plan but I I get a lot of benefit out of it. So if I if I practice willpower in any area. It's it's in the planning phase of things.

47:20.30

Max Shank

Well your your brain and body adapt. So I think it sort of ties back into what we were talking about before is like what patterns did you develop at a very young age and recognizing. That you have the ability to change those patterns. It'll be more difficult if they're already ingrained. No question but it's possible. You know if you understand I mean you don't have to understand how neuroplasticity works you just need to understand that. Neuroplasticity works like I don't really know how it works I know your brain makes new connections and you know what is rewarded is repeated. But yeah, it um, makes me think back to productivity. And what you said about the groceries is a big part of it so productive isn't just how much um, what's the product of your effort It's also how can you say no to more things that you have more effort available because I always bring it. I feel like a broken record because every thing comes back to opportunity cost you know and whatever you're doing the cost of doing that is everything else. You could be doing and that is a crazy crazy reality when you think about it you know like.

48:35.66

mikebledsoe

Now.

48:45.82

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

48:52.10

Max Shank

I'm gonna go hang out with this person I don't really like that much. What? why what? you you could like be talking to a loved 1 or you could just be like going for a walk like you don't have to do that and so that's what I'm best at that is like totally my superpower. Is just to be like so comfortable saying no to things that I don't really want to do like I remember my my my good friend brian and if he listens to this will be so Funny. He's like I'm having this party and I was like oh who's gonna be there and he listed off like a bunch of people and was like I don't really like them that much but if you want to go get lunch next week I'm um happy to go do that and that ability has saved me so much mental space because you know once again opportunity cost like is the is the juice worth the squeeze essentially and I think that's the first thing that i. End up working with my coaching clients on when it's more like lifestyle and business related is how to draw better boundaries so that you just have more ah clear mental space for the things that are actually important because anytime you say no. You're saying yes to something Better. You're giving yourself the ability to say yes to something better and I think I mean I really think the power of no is like the most important superpower.

50:10.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um.

50:21.87

mikebledsoe

Absolutely I mean there's you know there's a few different cliche terms out there is like you got to say yes to things. There's a lot of things I had to say yes to and then I'd learn how to say no I to say yes to things that were scary to do.

50:34.90

Max Shank

Um, who right.

50:40.17

mikebledsoe

Yes, so things have scared me but also no to the things that that are pulling me away from it and yeah, there's so many people have people pleasing tendencies My my ex had it heavy people pleasing tendency and.

50:51.41

Max Shank

Oh My God My. Ah, right.

50:59.90

mikebledsoe

It was it. It really was ends up being very harmful. Yeah.

51:03.46

Max Shank

Yeah, stressful and I think a lot of people have that. Um you know Jordan peterson talks about how agreeability is usually a disadvantage when it comes to business and then my friend.

51:17.53

mikebledsoe

If you're agreeable, you make less money. You're not going to negotiate that ah that salary.

51:21.48

Max Shank

Who isn't right? You're just oh yeah, that's fine. This is is okay and what's interesting is my friend who went into the air force Academy they were doing this class on negotiation with this lawyer and 1 of their assignments was to go around and ask for free stuff. And see how difficult it was for people to say no like you just go to Jamba Juice and like hey can I have a free smoothie and the guy's like what I I don't think we can do that How about just a little 1 Okay, it's like wait. What like all you have to do is ask.

51:42.31

mikebledsoe

Me.

51:56.83

mikebledsoe

I hate.

51:59.70

Max Shank

Crazy and it's It's true for so many things that um, you know people were so emotional like our superpowers are talking walking and being emotional. That's what human beings are better at than the other animals. Really so we're. We're deeply and we're not good at much other stuff. Ah, we're not ah, we're so aware most people of the feeling of rejection like we don't want to reject other people. We don't want other people to reject us and if you can get over that you. Will be successful because you will put out a lot of offers and it's way better to get half a percent of people to say yes, if you ask a million people than it is to get 1 hundred percent of people to say yes, if you only ask 5 and those four knows just Like. Daggers in your heart that make you question whether you're even good at anything so that ability to to ask without fearing rejection and also reject without thinking like oh oh you said no to me? Well I hate you. It's like oh okay, like.

53:15.25

mikebledsoe

Ah, sounds childish I went through a phase I went through a phase in my early twenty s where I I intentionally I'm not saying this is a good idea folks I went through a phase where I intentionally used pickup lines that would get me shot down at the bar.

53:16.66

Max Shank

Stupid. Yeah.

53:31.69

Max Shank

Ah.

53:33.75

mikebledsoe

I'd walk out to a woman and then I would say something like how do you like your eggs in the morning she goes what so scrambled to fertilized and or something like that which pretty much would invite a slap. You know, not just a rejection but you know like ah, an f you. So ah, it was it was.

53:57.37

Max Shank

Although I think that's a good filter too because someone who's likely to lay down with you would probably find that funny.

54:05.95

mikebledsoe

That's also true. That's also true. Ah, but ah huh go dirty early? Yeah yeah I mean the my my current girlfriend on my my bump. Um.

54:07.83

Max Shank

Go dirty early if you're if you're talking to late and if you're talking to ladies. This could get so dark So fast.

54:21.80

mikebledsoe

My bumble account. Yeah, my bumble account with my current girlfriend now just to give you some some context psychotherapist from the Bay right? So you're probably this is this is probably someone who's got like very indoctrinated with feminist ideas. So I'm not I'm not saying femin feminism's good or bad or anything like that I'm just saying that. Ah someone who is hyper feminist and does not have a sense of Humor. It will not enjoy me and in the the first part of my bumble account. Ah, it says. I just want a good woman to be able cook me dinner and give me a massage and then that was the headline and then it goes down and then I get into more like what I actually want um because I do want those things too I do want those things but ah, but it was funny is because we talked about it and she like gave an eye roll.

55:04.20

Max Shank

None. Wait You don't want those things who doesn't want those things.

55:19.37

mikebledsoe

Over it. But as more time goes on. She's realizing that she actually did want it. You know subconsciously and so ah, you know, being with a guy who's actually very masculine is is new for her and allows her to be feminine and that actually feels really nice.

55:32.32

Max Shank

Ah.

55:38.14

Max Shank

Could do a whole thing on that we could do a whole thing on that I mean I think right now. Yeah, maybe next show is like the feminization of men and the masculinization of women think that's ah, probably making life really hard for a lot of people.

55:38.59

mikebledsoe

But ah, but there was a filter. Yeah, maybe next show.

55:50.54

mikebledsoe

Um, well I Well I think it's a natural progression so we'll we'll talk about this next show. But I I think there's ah you know life is not all unicorns and butterflies and having this.

55:58.46

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

56:10.52

mikebledsoe

Reversal of of roles is is definitely part of our evolution but there's a lesson to be learned from it and there there is a continuation beyond that we'll talk about that. But um, yeah, it definitely I don't know what I was talking about now. But.

56:28.12

Max Shank

We're talking about saying yes to things and no to other things.

56:30.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but ah, creating creating filter I got used to getting shot down. So then I could I got really good at creating a filter and knowing that by by filtering out 99 percent that 1 percent was gonna be fucking super sweet and.

56:34.82

Max Shank

Ah, yeah.

56:45.92

Max Shank

Yeah, you build up the no callous Also like you get comfortable just being told. No.

56:50.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so I would ask way more girls out than the average guy because I was just like I get shot down like okay I've been shot down like a Hundred times. No big deal.

56:56.54

Max Shank

And you'll but I mean just think of what a disadvantage you're at if you are in a scarcity mindset when it comes to relationships I mean look if you choose a mate just based on looks. And you have a scarcity mindset so you don't ask out a lot of people. What are the odds that that relationship is going to be good. Are you kidding me like you you are going to have your life ruined because you're going to feel like I mean that's 1 of the that's 1 of the biggest decisions in your life.

57:20.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

57:32.81

Max Shank

You're telling me, you're going to date 1 person cling to them like hell because you're afraid to ask somebody else and you're going to choose them just based on their outward appearance via some like optic trick like are you the the chance that you're going to have like oh my god like.

57:44.67

mikebledsoe

Man I've seen so I've seen that play out so many times.

57:52.46

Max Shank

It's the worst way to choose a mate from a scarcity mindset and just based on like the visual trickery of what they can do with ah a makeup box and if they I mean who knows like it's just ridiculous I'm saying this I'm saying this knowing by the way.

58:04.92

mikebledsoe

Oh man.

58:11.59

Max Shank

That the lower levels of my brain. It's like ah a retarded monkey in a banana factory like I can't think from 1 second to the next.

58:22.00

mikebledsoe

No I'm making a note for next week so that we know what to talk about um because I do feel like we're complete on this productivity front now that we're talking about how to choose how to choose a mate.

58:35.47

Max Shank

Now The question is was this podcast productive and here's how we can tell if the podcast made listeners take an action that brings them closer to what they want. Then it was a productive podcast but that's not the only reason I'm doing this podcast I Also really enjoy our conversations.

59:00.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that was the every time we got on the phone we we well I thought I'm about you but I thought this should be recorded I think people would really enjoy this. Um and I was hanging on my buddy Josh has last or yesterday and he was asking me about you know.

59:09.99

Max Shank

Um, yeah, same.

59:19.66

mikebledsoe

Are you gonna podcast I'm like oh I'm podcasting I'm recording with Ma Shank I've been posting them over on my channel but I haven't I We haven't made the the move yet I feel like where we're out with the show is like like figuring out. Flow of it a bit and I I imagine we're going to start circling a theme which I'm not I don't see a clear theme yet. But I think we'll circle a theme that's going to make sense people know what to expect when they show up.

59:50.51

Max Shank

I mean I think the theme is pretty clear you and I are doing a mind meld to basically discuss how to avoid traps and how to find treasure and it encompasses your physical ability your relationships. Your um, psychological resolve and ability to evaluate your situation I mean ah you make better decisions and I'm also really funny.

01:00:17.41

mikebledsoe

What's the what's the benefit people get from listening to this.

01:00:26.70

mikebledsoe

Ah, ah, ah, better decisions I think there's a better way I I'm thinking about a marketing from a marketing perspective. We want people to see the name and go oh I gotta listen to that podcast. What's the benefit people are giving. That's what we got to figure out folks. Please.

01:00:37.95

Max Shank

Ah.

01:00:43.49

mikebledsoe

Shoot me a dm let me know I just put it I haven've been posting on the bletzout show since last November so I just started posting him up there. It's it looks like it's getting downloads I've got yeah I've got it up there under the bloodzo show. But I don't yeah.

01:00:43.90

Max Shank

Where are you posting these by the way.

01:00:51.50

Max Shank

Oh really do we get any feedback is it still called the blood social.

01:01:03.41

mikebledsoe

Um, there's I would have to start a whole another account and submit it to oh well, we should just all ah send you over the links I'll send you over the ah the.

01:01:05.47

Max Shank

We could put them on. We could put them on mine too I have a max shank show.

01:01:15.95

Max Shank

Yeah, we could try that out that'd be fun I Think for some reason I'm also I'm way dirtier on these than I normally am like I usually am like oh I'm going to try not to curse and then I'm thinking Oh Mike's audience these people are degenerates just like me. So.

01:01:21.93

mikebledsoe

Files.

01:01:30.32

mikebledsoe

Bunch of animals. Yeah I I I ran the name deviant dialogue by my girlfriend and for the name of the show. She was like no she says it's too dark. Oh.

01:01:33.91

Max Shank

Bunch of animals.

01:01:43.97

Max Shank

No, it's not good. Yeah.

01:01:50.48

mikebledsoe

She's like yeah people are gonna think deviant and they're gonna think devil and I was like oh shit. Okay I didn't think about that.

01:01:53.42

Max Shank

No, it's not actually a good name for a show but I mean it it does come back around to like how to coach yourself. Basically.

01:02:05.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:02:07.83

Max Shank

I Don't know we'll think of something it doesn't have to be Maybe that's the last lesson for productivity is it doesn't have to be perfect for you to launch it out there like a lot of a lot of stuff I've done it evolved into something good.

01:02:18.31

mikebledsoe

That's true. Well, it's technically going out imperfectly it. It's being put out imperfectly. It's it doesn't even have a name and so I'm just throwing it up on a channel and and.

01:02:25.92

Max Shank

But that.

01:02:31.97

Max Shank

That's great.

01:02:33.67

mikebledsoe

Maybe some people are listening to it I mean it's getting downloads I know that but who knows yeah and more downloads as I post more which makes me think that it's doing something but I've yet to get any feedback being like oh I started listening your show I Love it imit. Well we'll see what happens all right.

01:02:37.89

Max Shank

That's pretty cool.

01:02:46.82

Max Shank

Um, ah I like it until next week that's been some good planning for both of us. Ah, that's been some good planning for most both of us. We just have a monthly.

01:02:53.61

mikebledsoe

Wrap this bad boy up Yeah, tell me where they can find you huh what? a weekly a weekly appointments in my calendar. It's easy.

01:03:04.82

Max Shank

Ah, monthly appointment where we sit down and talk how well has that worked. Yeah, that's what I'm saying it's great. Did I say monthly I meant weekly I don't have a lot of appointments.

01:03:13.57

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, all right? Where can people find you no.

01:03:20.53

Max Shank

ah ah I'm hard to find maxshank dot com or at Maxank anywhere else.

01:03:27.10

mikebledsoe

So off I mean at mike underscore blood so on Instagram and the strong coach if you're looking to give me money all right? Thanks for joining us today. Yes.

01:03:37.32

Max Shank

Have a productive week

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