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The Bledsoe Show

The show formerly known as "Bledsopia" On this podcast, you’ll learn from thought leaders who are dedicating their lives to being a positive force for your physical, psycho-emotional and spiritual health. Your host, Mike Bledsoe, seeker of truth & perpetual student, spotlights premier thought leaders in the fields of emotional & intellectual expansion, behavior change, sexuality & alternative medicine that empower you with the tools and inspiration to transform your mind, body, & spirit. Every week, this is your opportunity to get downloads from exceptional people that will guide you to the connections between your own source, to live your best life & enjoy the process.
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Jun 30, 2022

It’s a refreshing rarity in the new-age spiritual world that you meet someone who shines a light on the Truth as it is

Luke Kohen is that rare being. And his spoken word will move you, challenge you, and help you expand what you experience in life

Listen in and let this Bard's words move you

Jun 23, 2022

imagine boarding a plane to Russia within days after they’ve invaded Ukraine…

Most people would call this crazy. Add in the intent for your trip being hunting, and they’ll declare lunacy.

If you’ve experienced the connection, Truth, and lessons hunting can teach you - you’d understand why you’d undertake a journey like this.

 

If you’re curious as to why - you’ll love this week's episode with Mansal Denton

 

Jun 20, 2022

00:00.00

mikebledsoe

I Think yeah I did one of those um inner Tube River Lazy River thing never done it before been Whitewater raft and canoeing always in Rivers never did the I'm not can hardly do shit as I let the water take me.

00:00.00

Max Shank

Sounds good to me.

00:08.26

Max Shank

The Lazy river.

00:37.76

Max Shank

Aha.

00:39.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so it took a friend organizing it with a bunch of people who I actually like to spend time with to get me to do nothing on a river and I got out there I got out there and it was. Ah, there was a crowd it was it was like bumper boats for 4 hours in this river it's in Austin yeah south of off and Marcos and when we got there, we're like holy shit's busy and the people working there go oh hasn't gotten busy yet. So.

01:28.44

Max Shank

This is in Austin. Well yeah.

01:58.72

mikebledsoe

Anyways, yeah, that was ah that was my weekend that and barbecue and laughing with friends.

02:05.46

Max Shank

Lazy River is exciting.

02:17.38

Max Shank

I'll tell you what makes me laugh is your story about you having some very close friends give you permission to just float in a River it sounds ah like this joke about um, meditation and yoga. It's like.

02:45.76

mikebledsoe

Ah.

02:51.56

Max Shank

People in None world countries need someone from a None world country to remind them that it's okay to do nothing for 20 minutes it's like you get permission to do nothing for 20 minutes with meditation class or yoga or something like that. It's like.

03:07.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

03:27.88

Max Shank

You just do nothing.

03:28.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, we had a friend of her for dinner on Friday night and we talked about that which was you know talking about you know oh I got a meditation practice and I got a visualization practice and I got qi gong and it's like all these practices and talked about just. The value of not you know, getting trapped in the in the practices and the value of just sitting on the side of a lake and staring at the water and doing absolutely nothing and not worried about your posture or anything like that in just that space.

04:36.56

Max Shank

Well, it's like not concerning yourself with the outcome right? Like you don't you don't care if you have produced more widgets or harvested more grains right.

04:44.40

mikebledsoe

You know.

05:04.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's kind of like play.

05:09.82

Max Shank

And that's what we're doing. That's that's like how we judge if if we're good in a lot of relationships because that's where we gain our judgments from is these relationships that we've had so we say it's good to do this. It's bad to do that and. What's interesting is how few people can balance out both and I'm speaking from my own experience as well. It's like None or the other typically and figuring out how to rive the natural cycles which is a wave.

06:11.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

06:26.68

Max Shank

Um, is super valuable. Skill no wind to float in the Lazy River and you know when it's time to climb up the mountain or dig out the gold mine or ah till the field you you go get that shit done with total focus and it. Kind of goes back to what we talked about with the the Jungle cats and the lions and predators of various kinds. It's like they they basically are in rest mode rest and recovery and form bonds with the family or focused. They're not.. They're not hurrying typically right? There's a difference between being hurried and being focused and that's what I try to do sometimes I even get it Sometimes I do it where I'm I'm just focused or relaxed and if I'm relaxed I'm.

07:42.62

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

08:20.22

Max Shank

I'm letting my focus diffuse into a soft glow like a lantern that you could look directly at it doesn't hurt your eyes or you can focus down like a laser pointer or a laser cutter and you can actually slice through metal with it so being able to. Lazy River or Whitewater Raft. You know that sort of thing or lantern versus laser.

09:10.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um I think back in my early days of all a not not understanding the value of the space of doing nothing and just playing with no outcome and and how much benefit that gives me on the day. Ah. When I do want to focus the ability to do so is there and I like we were saying about the the lantern and or the laser yesterday is a good example that is I did float on Saturday but yesterday my fiance.

10:02.80

Max Shank

Earth.

10:20.94

mikebledsoe

So I got says I I need a lot I got a lot of work to do and I said you know what I got a lot of work to do too because I've got a summit coming up and you know there's a I've got a long list and I've got a couple podcast episodes to record this week so there's some things I need to prep for but I'm not gonna. You know it's Sunday and I know that I've got I'm working till next Sunday I don't have a day off between now I'm next Sunday and I'm going to take it easy I probably was more productive and enjoyed my work more without worrying about how much I got done that day.

11:33.44

Max Shank

I mean.

11:36.74

mikebledsoe

And yeah, it's I find that especially when I was younger a lot of time spent a lot of times spent chugging coffee and overstimulating myself for the purpose of thinking that was going to help me do something better.

11:56.46

Max Shank

Totally power through baby well and you'll be more good as judged by all of your peers. It's all the program that's been installed and if everything is sacrificed for the outcome.

12:21.24

mikebledsoe

Right here.

12:33.34

Max Shank

The extreme example is someone who's going to blow themselves up because the programming was so effective That's crazy so being able to draw boundaries is really what it comes back to is can you draw a boundary for space for yourself.

12:44.32

mikebledsoe

No no.

13:12.84

Max Shank

And I actually remember a conversation I had with a member at my gym once and I watched this person transform over a period of time I learned about how their work and their life goes and things like that and they were you know real high performer Worker. And her her biggest challenge was to set clear boundaries for herself to do things that were for her I mean she was give give give essentially I'll I'll get all the work done and then just pile some more on and then I'll get that done too and.

14:03.52

mikebledsoe

A.

14:29.96

Max Shank

Always the last priority and I remember she was asking if she could drop the the personal training from her membership and just do the classes and I said look ah personal train do classes. Whatever you want to do but make an appointment for yourself every week. That you never miss Basically like you have to keep that as a priority and that's one of the reasons that personal training works is because the person is heavily invested to show up at the given time and once that billing and scheduling is all dialed in.

15:11.62

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

15:44.54

Max Shank

It makes it very easy to show up every time but if it's ah, a group membership and no one really is going to follow up if you aren't coming in there. It's a totally different Thing. So I think it comes back to drawing boundaries. Between those times where you are allowed or allowing yourself to do nothing.

16:27.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, my None task on Monday mornings is to schedule out my rejuvenating activities for the rest of the week when am I going to work out when am I going to go song a cold plunge when am I going to hang out with my friends.

16:46.86

Max Shank

He.

17:06.56

mikebledsoe

All that scheduled out None thing Monday morning before I even look at what I need to do for work that week and yeah it for me it. It requires that level of of commitment to self in order to follow through on that stuff.

17:13.81

Max Shank

Oh.

17:35.76

Max Shank

Oh draw boundaries. That's why relationships don't work right? Well, that's why relationships go South is ah, people didn't draw boundaries quick enough. Basically.

17:41.36

mikebledsoe

But most people never do it. Yeah, didn't yeah, they just don't even consider the boundaries in the None place. Yeah, you know? Yeah, they're not even aware usually like the the boundary most people.

18:12.96

Max Shank

Right.

18:20.32

mikebledsoe

Discovered that the boundary even exists when they get mad like ah, a boundary getting crossed it it triggers anger and then a lot of times the the right? the right person to be angry at yourself. But.

18:41.28

Max Shank

Um, it's internalized like right.

18:55.16

mikebledsoe

It's projected out and blamed on someone else when you know my big thing is anytime I get angry with somebody else I check in with myself to say you know what boundary was crossed and did I communicate that boundary and most of the time I didn't and then I got.

19:13.96

Max Shank

Yeah, yeah.

19:32.70

mikebledsoe

Check out in myself. But then I go have the conversation about where my boundary is with that person and you know it's always things usually clear up after that.

19:38.68

Max Shank

Um, yeah, yeah, um I would I would agree I think people um often don't check their boundaries. Quick enough and hold true to those lines and it makes it very difficult. Ah, and it's kind of an ah accumulating Burden I think even and you don't really know how much you.

20:16.74

mikebledsoe

Now just.

20:40.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

20:51.56

Max Shank

Like resentment and blame you can start hanging onto just just because 100% your responsibility you should have drawn boundaries. That's why anytime like what you're saying oh I'm mad at this person. It's like well that's silly because. Whatever happened happened and that was possible from from back when you started that relationship right? That's that's fine. Whatever just ah, try to learn from it and this back to the thing about being focused versus hurried or.

21:32.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

22:05.72

Max Shank

Whatever there's a big difference between just putting all your focus onto something and being emotionally charged up about it.

22:17.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so we want to talk about today. Yeah I think we've done boundaries before.

22:25.10

Max Shank

What do I want to talk about I want to talk about the well. Okay, last week we talked about stuff basically which was cool. We talked about stuff. Making stuff.

23:01.80

mikebledsoe

I Only remember what what stuff will we talk about.

23:10.30

Max Shank

Um, we were talking about how come on you we were yeah but you're supposed to treasure mine forever. Whatever I say I'm sure you have like a separate diary just for the conversations that you and I have.

23:24.26

mikebledsoe

I've had a lot of thoughts between last week and right now and it gets cluttered. Oh.

23:50.24

Max Shank

I mean I know like everyone can tell that you get really excited throwing a word the round throwing around the word fiance now. So I know you got a lot on your mind. You're you're going to be this new person. You're going to be like oh well, you know now that I'm married.

24:08.94

mikebledsoe

M.

24:24.28

Max Shank

And it's going to be just like last week when you said well now that I'm you know a little older a little wiser I think it's just going to play in to that that guru status that you've developed because now you'll be older wiser married get some kids going and then your avatar. Will be complete so you can you know really have some authority on these messages for the men who listen to us significantly long that we shouldn't even see the neck on that tank top. It should go down at least ten more inches gandalph style.

25:12.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah I need ah I need a longer beard too.

25:30.18

mikebledsoe

Now see what Ashley says about that.

25:39.66

Max Shank

No, we were talking about making stuff though last week like the the value of making stuff physically with your hands and there's and there's a lot of truth that is discovered when you do that because there and it kind of ties so I would tie back.

25:49.84

mikebledsoe

Oh oh yeah.

26:04.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

26:18.26

Max Shank

We talked about last week into the so that was the matter or the stuff and maybe we could go into the pattern of things so we could talk a little bit about vibration and rhythm and frequency if if you wanted to It's kind of a. Challenging topic to really follow, but it's um, the reason it reminded me is father's day. It was father's day and you know the word father comes from the word ah pattern and the word mother comes from the word matter. So there's.

27:10.80

mikebledsoe

Um.

27:28.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, why say we go with that. Let's go with that. Yeah I'm I'm down to tackle the pattern conversation that sounds good.

27:31.68

Max Shank

Matter and pattern so it seems like a nice logical transition.

27:53.38

Max Shank

Yeah, so let's say we try to break it down into ah patterns of human beings which is kind of like programs of human beings. So we have that which is I would say that's the most practical level. Is the patterns of humans. Ah we also have ah Dna is a pattern and another synonym for pattern is code.

28:57.40

mikebledsoe

I think.

28:59.20

Max Shank

So you have Dna you got computer programming you got programming human beings. You got the different ah frequencies and wavelengths of things as it relates to the materials we make.

29:28.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think it's gonna be a fun topic Actually the more the more you're talking I'm thinking and yeah, this will be a full.

29:43.46

Max Shank

Um, you could argue that matter and Pattern are the only topics that we could discuss.

29:56.40

mikebledsoe

I think so yeah, everything falls under those 2 categories. That's right.

30:06.70

Max Shank

Stuff and not stuff like okay here here's ah, an interesting example right? We have all these forces which is the way we describe. Okay, all right? No, we're Okay, we're we're kicked.

30:23.88

mikebledsoe

Hang on hang on. Let's kick the show off and then get into it. Yeah I think I think we're set are we clicked I wrote the date on the top of the page. Um.

30:41.42

Max Shank

Okay, you took some notes.

30:55.12

Max Shank

I have this I have this fantasy in my mind when I see you looking down and writing something that it's like oh these like excellent notes are like a mind map or something like that or maybe a checklist of things to cover. Really you've just written your name in the date in the corner.

31:23.40

mikebledsoe

Um, no half the time It's the date I'm practicing spelling my name. Yeah.

31:38.76

Max Shank

Okay, so we'll talk about Pattern for in honor of father's day.

31:47.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah I said I say ah why don't you go ahead and do the intro and then we'll talk about the the membership site and then you can go into your explanation for. Father and pattern How about that and then we'll just go from there.

32:31.50

Max Shank

And the membership site just so I'm clear is in the beginning of the show I put my camera to expose the nipples and then when the public show starts I tilt it back up. So the nipples are ah not visible is that.

33:03.86

mikebledsoe

You got it. You got it? yeah.

33:09.94

Max Shank

Is that right? I'm a simple man I like a simple plan. My nips are only free to me but not to you.

33:27.22

mikebledsoe

All right? You want to kick off the intro today. All right? yep.

33:32.94

Max Shank

Yeah let's do it already. Ah None 2 None welcome back to Monday mornings with max and Mike Today we're gonna. Follow up what we talked about last week last week was a heck of a fun conversation about stuff matter substance working with your hands a little bit about manufacturing. It was a crazy excellent conversation. Go check it out Today. We're gonna talk about the other side. The pattern. I think it's very cool that the words mother and father are actually derived from matter and pattern and so that's what we're gonna talk about today. We're gonna talk about how pattern is present in your Dna your cell phone behaviors of human beings. And much much more and welcome welcome again. Mike thanks for sitting down with me I'm very excited and a little intimidated to tackle this topic today.

35:20.58

mikebledsoe

Well said.

35:41.48

mikebledsoe

Ah sorry I can make a bunch of bullshit up. Ah so for for those of you who who love this show.

35:51.98

Max Shank

I Don't like it for the record folks I don't like when he does that.

36:04.22

mikebledsoe

Ah, but for um, all we we decide to open up the membership site and we're gonna be posting exclusive content. There's a conversation that always happens previous to this show today's show we had 16 minutes and 55 seconds of content. Of us figuring out what we were going to talk about. But of course we can't help ourselves from delivering gold at every moment. So if you yep, None nipples on the preshow. So do that one.

36:53.52

Max Shank

There were also 2 nipples on the pre-show in case that matters I don't know why why should people do that one like what are they going to get out of that. Are they going to get some more interaction with us.

37:17.16

mikebledsoe

1 maybe it's exclusive content for now we're going to see where it goes. Yeah well I had a guy.

37:25.32

Max Shank

Just exclusive content I Think yeah, we should see what people want though also because I could see ah I could see something really cool forming out of this So I just want to serve our our customers The best way I can.

37:54.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah I had a guy ah on Instagram Atx window tent and clean. He sent me message it and said he would donate for more podcasts with me and you so um, what I want to do is we're gonna set it up. It's not set up. As of today. But if you're listening to this what I'm Goingnna do is I'm going to create a link on the http://bloodsoio.com. So if you go to there. There's going to be a place where you can sign up for this and it's gonna be pay what you want so it's donation based anywhere between a dollar and $5000000 ah.

38:58.12

Max Shank

Love it.

39:09.36

mikebledsoe

And we'll set up a we'll make it a monthly subscription and as long as you're.

39:13.16

Max Shank

Are we sponsored by Austin Tint and window by the way atx tint and window.

39:23.34

mikebledsoe

You know we may mention him more depending on the size of his donation or her donation I'm not sure if it's a man or woman. So I the this.

39:49.66

Max Shank

So wait. So wait, you're telling me they can pay what they want and we don't even really know what they're going to get yet. We know they're going to get exclusive content. There's no question. You're going to hear words there that you won't hear anywhere else but there might be even more than that is what you're saying So it's like.

40:14.90

mikebledsoe

Yep.

40:24.34

mikebledsoe

Well well part of this yeah part part part of this. Well the thing is the people that are going to donate to the show. They're going to contribute funds to make sure that this show keeps happening because you know what it takes a couple hours out of max and I week

40:29.48

Max Shank

Ah, bonus price Mystery box That's incredible.

41:02.62

mikebledsoe

And you know we got to keep the lights on and all that. But ah yeah, so the people.

41:09.12

Max Shank

Well you vote with your dollars too I'm I'm a big fan of that. So if you like really want more of something then you know that's that's the only way you can really influence it I say that in your whole life too. You know, buy what you like.

41:36.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, spend money where you want things to improve So Ah so for one if you enjoy the show and you just want to Contribute. It's a great way to do it. You're also going to get exclusive content And. Ah, you are going to have the loudest voice out of everyone who has an opinion about what we should be doing So We're more likely to listen to those who are donating the most amount of money So That's all that's all on that So we'll get that set up I've got a summit coming up this weekend. So.

42:35.80

Max Shank

Very exciting.

42:48.40

mikebledsoe

My team is completely distracted with things that they think is important so that I can do the show. But.

42:59.82

Max Shank

It must have taken a lot of ah instruction to organize all those people together for a summit. He segwayed perfectly because someone has to orchestrate.

43:15.70

mikebledsoe

Instruction. Um, yeah, yeah, there's a ah lot of direction.

43:37.32

Max Shank

Someone has to orchestrate the code for getting that job done and if you think about the Pattern. So the bread. The the dough is the stuff. The recipe is the pattern. The sperm is the pattern. The egg is the stuff. Matter mother Pattern father. So It sounds like you are the father of this event because you have determined the structure of its organization.

44:36.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, we create this structure and then I brought in a lot of speakers who are going to contribute so they they bring a lot of stuff and I organize it and I time it I announce it I create a container.

44:55.22

Max Shank

Right.

45:10.16

Max Shank

Oh.

45:13.70

mikebledsoe

So it's a container of time so it starts at a certain time ends at a certain time we we do have a frequency of of time in between so this speaker starts here ends there. There's also a consideration for what type of content is gonna presented it. Be presented in what order to make the most sense so that we can stare step people through a series of understanding. So while I also have no idea what the speakers are going to say like I I know their topic but I and I know they're good because almost all of them been in the industry for twenty plus years

46:09.48

Max Shank

Right? right.

46:27.00

mikebledsoe

So I know it's going to be good I Just don't know what exactly that content's going to be and that's actually a lot of fun for me.

46:40.28

Max Shank

And that's the that's the practical side of patterns. That's the most practical side of patterns because most of our interactions are with people or or with stuff but usually with people I would say unless you're just specifically with materials and.

47:04.92

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah art.

47:18.36

Max Shank

That's what teaching is it's basically ah, it's like the least substantial thing there is is pure instruction because there's no stuff being transferred. There's only code. Being transferred.. There's only the pattern that is being sent to another person.

48:07.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

48:13.64

Max Shank

But that's what drives people and the bible is a program. The constitution is a program these are patterns. These are these have their own ah force and vibration to them right.

48:44.12

mikebledsoe

What I'm glad you bring that up.

48:49.16

Max Shank

When it comes to the way that humans interact and behave and you take that plus it's like that plus Dna those are the None intersecting patterns that sort of weave together and you could I don't know I think the nature versus nurture argument is the wrong. Perspective I think it's nature and nurture and it's all the same kind of.

49:33.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and and everything you were just saying right there and we look at the patterns that have had the longest staying power. So like we talk about the bible or christianity. It's a pattern that has had really long staying power a lot of other religions have fallen by the wayside.

50:07.36

Max Shank

Relative to other human religions. It's had incredible staying power.

50:11.88

mikebledsoe

And yeah, yeah, now the the patterns you talk about nature versus nurture. But what I one of the things that I've found to be ah, really powerful is studying the patterns of nature and then either mimicking that.

50:37.32

Max Shank

Then oh.

50:50.84

mikebledsoe

Or if we're going to be working with nature which we always are is how do we harness that if you try to create a structure that is not in alignment with nature. You're going to be. You're going to lose that battle and so there is and I think it creates some.

50:55.86

Max Shank

I will know.

51:30.56

mikebledsoe

Difficulty so one of the ways I like to think about patterns and frequencies and I think about frequencies specifically and I like to start at the macro and work our way down to the micro and then when we do that I think people really start getting an understanding of how the universe works. And this was pointed out to me by a guy named Daniel Schmackenberger he explained it to me and I go huh that act that that's in person in person. He explained it to me.

52:18.34

Max Shank

Um, did he explain it to you in person. What an interesting character that guy is I've listened to a few of his things and he's a very interesting cat. But.

52:39.16

mikebledsoe

He used to live down the street from us and I probably had a sit down with him every three months when I was living in Socal and we jammed and the guy. The guy is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. Um, but ah, we were talking about seasons and cycles and.

52:54.60

Max Shank

Um, about that. Yeah.

53:18.70

mikebledsoe

And lunar and solar and we look at the yeah we look at the pattern and we look at the patterns of nature. We look at patterns of the universe and the the None one the one that's easiest for us to all be aware of is probably the lunar cycle. So.

53:24.66

Max Shank

There's a pattern.

53:53.90

mikebledsoe

Or the 4 seasons. Um, these are both cycles the 4 seasons all happen in an annual basis. It gets hot it cools off. It gets really cold. It gets warm. It gets hot. It does that ah to.

54:16.72

Max Shank

So like the days and the moons. Ah, and the years are easy are like easy to notice. Outwardly.

54:35.80

mikebledsoe

They're easy to notice and so you have the lunar There's you know about thirteen lunar cycles in a year. Um some may ah some do argue that the fact that we have twelve months in the year and we have 13 lunar cycles is actually fighting nature a little bit. And we might be better off if we had a little bit different system. But this thing is pretty ingrained the gregorian calendar. Ah we have the lunar cycles which are which are monthly and then inside of that they're really the the weekly cycle Monday through Sunday is.

55:21.94

Max Shank

Oh man. Yeah, we.

55:46.18

mikebledsoe

I don't really see anything demonstrated in nature that seems like to me a very human construct to divide up those 28 ish days ah between lunar cycles and we want to like look all the way back through history. Yeah into weeks.

56:10.26

Max Shank

into into weeks um I don't know what the origin of the week is actually is kind of an interesting question.

56:21.98

mikebledsoe

And days are obvious the the daily cycle the sun comes up the sun goes down and I have no idea I mean somebody Dm me let me know and the.

56:52.54

Max Shank

We're just we're gonna trust your dude. Okay, this is why you are not in charge of the fucking research department I'll wait for the None direct message on Instagram to give me the answer and then I just get a fucking go with that you you lunatic speaking of moon.

57:09.48

mikebledsoe

Ah, no I need a starting point I need a.

57:23.70

Max Shank

That's where the luna lunatic comes from fucking lunatic. Yeah, so just Dm your effect that's like slightly less reliable than Wikipedia.

57:26.78

mikebledsoe

I. Well no I want to I want to I want the people in the audience to participate in the process of us finding information. They said it to me I'll I'll still verify it I'll look it up but I I'm gonna let someone initiate. So um.

57:59.74

Max Shank

Ah I'm just kidding I Love Wikipedia. Okay, so we have ah we have years we have moons so we have solar year we have moons. Let's forget about weeks. Let's go straight to heartbeats from there so we got year.

58:13.68

mikebledsoe

So about.

58:34.60

mikebledsoe

That's ah, that's where I was. That's where we're going is That's exactly what I've written down. Actually we're on the same page but it gets down to you get up and go to sleep. You have a Circadian rhythm you have a hormonal.

58:38.74

Max Shank

Moon day heartbeat.

58:58.98

mikebledsoe

Ah, rhythm throughout the day based on the sun coming up sun going down moon coming out all these things and then yeah it it comes down to heartbeat brain waves brainwave frequencies and so yeah.

59:22.96

Max Shank

Which is a lot faster because hertz is the way we measure frequency and hurts is calculated in cycles per second. So if something is it and I think we have the ability to hear things between oh gosh. Ah. 1 d-ish hurts to None something around there so we have a pretty big. There's ah, there's a great thing um to visualize the spectrum of frequencies but just remember that hurts is in cycles per second so your heart. Ah.

01:00:11.98

mikebledsoe

I should know that.

01:00:40.80

Max Shank

It beats once every second so cycles per second would be like 1 basically right.

01:00:42.30

mikebledsoe

Once a second. Yeah.

01:00:56.26

mikebledsoe

You know? Yeah, so we have all these different frequencies and None of the one of the ways reasons I like to think about frequencies in this way is because it allows. Me to see more clearly how I'm connected to the entire universe it. It reduces the amount of separation that I'm perceiving and whole with it. Yeah and I'm tuned into it once I learned this I I got a lot better about going down with the sun and coming up with the sun and.

01:01:33.92

Max Shank

You feel more whole with it. You feel more part of it.

01:01:55.64

Max Shank

Oh.

01:02:01.20

mikebledsoe

My health improved and all sorts of things. So I like that the idea of talking about the micro macro to the micro and the pattern is always present. There's nothing that we can observe that doesn't have it and it's not participating.

01:02:33.60

Max Shank

Yeah, there's a great little chart if you type in em spectrum into Google images you can find ah a really nice little visual aid I think it's really important.

01:03:02.92

mikebledsoe

Em spectrum.

01:03:06.66

Max Shank

Yeah, just type in em spectrum into Google and hit images and that'll show you ah you know on the 1 hand when you have ah something like the visible light spectrum and then.

01:03:43.36

mikebledsoe

E.

01:03:43.60

Max Shank

You go beyond above it. You have ultraviolet spectrum and then you have infrared so below what we can see and there's all this stuff happening and the way to tie it all together and simplify it in my mind is to say that vision.

01:04:00.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:04:21.86

Max Shank

Doesn't show you everything. That's there. It just shows you? What's important and there but there's so much stuff vibrating everywhere and everything's got its own um frequency to it and that goes all the way down like. Most watches are set with a quartz crystal actually because it vibrates at a certain frequency and I think ah the way an atomic clock works is with something like caesium.

01:05:19.48

mikebledsoe

Everyone's cell phone has a quartz crystal in it.

01:05:40.34

Max Shank

And so you think here's this this like bunch of stuff like a crystal but it's got this frequency that it's emitting from it all the time.

01:06:01.68

mikebledsoe

Man I spent hours talking about crystals on Saturday night with some friends. The I think we might open up a crystal shop here in Austin the next the next business venture. You think it'll be good I think we could we could pull.

01:06:27.60

Max Shank

I Think if you focus on it. It will be I think if you focus on it. It'll be awesome and if you ah, don't try that hard then it depends on who you partnered with.

01:06:46.98

mikebledsoe

All right? Yeah I'm I'm looking for solid partners for crystal shop here in Austin Texas.

01:06:55.54

Max Shank

I Like talking about crystals too but not with people who only know the esoteric side of Crystals I need someone to like bridge the gap between the physics and the more esoteric kind of philosophical Astro astrology because.

01:07:14.66

mikebledsoe

Boy Yeah I have a friend.

01:07:35.28

Max Shank

I'm I'm hip with it and I I like to know what's really going on in there.

01:07:44.98

mikebledsoe

Well, both sides are really nice I What are my buddies he used to be in the crystal business and and he can talk about how the crystal in your phone works and tie that into more of the esoteric as well and so he can He spans the whole thing I'm gonna have him on the show.

01:07:54.82

Max Shank

You gotta work them together.

01:08:12.20

Max Shank

Right.

01:08:21.88

mikebledsoe

Here in the next month or so and I don't know if we'll talk about Crystals because he's an expert in other things as well. But maybe we'll cover that for everybody.

01:08:28.34

Max Shank

Yeah I have a friend actually who I have a friend who his whole ah career. Basically right now is studying crystals so his his equipment that he has available in the lab is so tight that he can actually fire a neutron beam. To see really really tiny crystals of proteins to make for pharmaceuticals so his whole job is like trial and error. Let's let's throw some fucking heat and some of this over here and he's basically in a laboratory and then firing a little beam. Neutrons to look at the shapes to see if they're going to be able to bind or unite ah with other molecules in the body. It's it's really fascinating and you look at how all of those different interactions are things usually have a charge like positive or negative. And they often will also have a ah conforming shape and you can take that all the way down. It's it's easy to get lost with how many branches that you can take this down in terms of the energy transformation because that's really all we're doing is we're taking. Energy and we're transforming it into some other type of energy. That's really what family is about. You're taking energy from outside and then you're adding it to the family fungus is doing that we're doing that Orca are doing that. Basically you're trying to assimilate more energy and grow. Size of your empire ants fungus us and yeah and ah different creatures do it in different ways like ah in the life of a mycelium fungus that's slowly branching out a myceoleal network.

01:11:46.14

mikebledsoe

Simulate organize create a structure with that energy divert that energy.

01:12:18.34

Max Shank

They don't really budget time for ah like deviance and pleasure and vacations and things like that and we we do. We have all this crazy stuff Beyond grow the family but that's the that's the prevailing pattern because.

01:12:43.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:12:56.64

Max Shank

If you don't have that then that branch of the family tree cuts itself. So you you almost have it's why religions kind of follow the same thing Thou Shalt have no other gods before me because this has to be the foundation of your pattern of your programming.

01:13:02.14

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:13:33.34

Max Shank

Right? You can't like just pick and choose oh hey like you know you hindus. That's pretty cool but I like steak So I'm not going to go with this crew and you Christians are great but I want to eat pigs or you know whatever they don't like that doesn't it doesn't have the same um unity. It doesn't have the same.

01:13:55.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:14:11.50

Max Shank

Ah, resonance and harmony of the the the vibration there isn't it interesting that they also sing every Sunday that that's a big thing is singing together. We got to get back to that though.

01:14:18.66

mikebledsoe

Yeah I. Yeah, yeah I notice having interacted heavily with the new age spiritual Community and I I've never really considered myself new age. But the. The new age Spiritual Community is interesting because it does feel like a lot of the people in that community are adopting they're picking and choosing. They're cherry picking things from different religions and then creating their own little thing but it really does lack a foundation that I.

01:15:30.88

Max Shank

E.

01:15:46.62

mikebledsoe

I Think that the that community it feels very wishy-washy feels very too flowy to there's there's some people in in this community that are very popular and when they post things and when they talk about things. Sounds very flowery. But I don't know exactly what they mean and I don't think they know what they mean either.

01:16:36.34

Max Shank

Oh you mean like a flower like that thing that is designed to attract I'm not surprised.. The only thing we can possibly get is people being little flowers. There's no way. We you? you can't rise above the noise unless you make yourself into a pretty flower like you know you could tell people the truth is like look um there there are a lot of tools out there that we can use and you don't really know what the.

01:17:13.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:17:46.26

Max Shank

Potential benefit and potential cost of those tools is you? You don't really know how those tools can be used. You don't know the pattern or the code of how to put those tools to the best use and that's also what coaching and instruction is it's how to get the most out of those tools. So. The recipe for bread the recipe for making ah semiconductors and computers and automobiles. Ah what is that without the instructions. It's just stuff without the the instructions to put it all together. It's just stuff. Dna same thing. It actually determines where the protein is going to go where the collagen is going to get laid down. It's insane ah to try to like differentiate those 2 things because.

01:19:38.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:19:43.90

Max Shank

What is the stuff without the the movement of the stuff. What I mean there's there's nothing. That's perfectly still is kind of ah a weird ah trip to think about and I think a lot of that um can be described by like. Atomic structures as we understand it like the density of the packing of the atomic nuclei and the lattice work that they take ah see this. We're like way too far outside of my understanding but basically things are packed much tighter. When they are more denser so you have a ah gal you have ah an air compressor. You can compress the air and actually shove more into that same space and then as you get harder and harder Materials. There's less and less give that you can shove into that same space.

01:21:03.28

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:21:35.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:21:40.20

Max Shank

And that's also why in order to have a faraday cage which doesn't let ah electromagnetic radiation in it has to be made out of metal. It can't be made out of wood because it can get through because wood is less dent like how crazy is that when you think about it because the wood is still solid.

01:22:17.42

mikebledsoe

Yep.

01:22:18.96

Max Shank

But the reason you need it to be metal is because of the closeness of the lattice of those atoms. So. There's actually less space than usual and then with air with wood with metal. Tungsten Plutonium All that other stuff it's because it's more and more tightly packed and that's that's also um, how nature patterns itself pretty much if you look at a tree and a set of lungs. It starts out with a big pipe. And then it splits and splits and splits into little branches and ah leaves and branches branches little capillaries alviolles and things like that. So you're trying to maximize the ah surface area right? It's like giving yourself more.

01:23:59.14

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:24:07.72

Max Shank

Ah, relationships with the environment.

01:24:10.60

mikebledsoe

But that Pattern works best with the planet Earth for the exchange of of air of Oxygen carbon dioxide. Whatever it is whatever the exchange of these molecules are and when you're talking about Oxygen Carbon dioxide. It's no. A mystery why the lungs in the tree look very similar. It's just a shit works. Um, yeah.

01:24:57.56

Max Shank

Gas exchange happening all the time and that's a pattern that's a relationship between those 2 inhale exhale without algae and trees. We'd all be dead.

01:25:22.40

mikebledsoe

Very true. The I want to break this down and into and a 4 different quadrants. So I'm I'm a big fan I've I've talked about before of Ken Wilbur's a call map a qal so if you Google a cap a q a l space. Map then you'll get an idea of what I'm you'll get a visual of what I'm talking about here and so it's ah the upper quadrant is the individual the lower half of the quadrant is the collective. The left side of the quadrant is the interior or the inside and the. Right side of the quadrant is the exterior. So if we go to the upper left hand quadrant what we're looking at is the interior self. So if we want to look at I really like talking about this map because it allows us to break down a topic as big as something like patterns into something that. We can look at and step by step and talk about it so to really simplify what's happening in the upper left hand quadrant which is the interior of self I really think about that as like thoughts and feelings your thoughts and your feelings. It's your internal world and there's patterns there. And so we have emotional patterns we have thought patterns and we have psychoemotional patterns where the thoughts and emotions have a pattern between the 2 of them. You have an emotion then there's a pattern of making meaning of what that emotion means and then. That can cycle cycle cycle so we have psycho emotional patterns that we need to be aware of and the certain certain things trigger those different patterns and it could be something like father's day something could get someone thinks about father's day and. The pattern may be celebration feeling really good make it mean call your dad that day. So I like to think about no.

01:29:30.90

Max Shank

I'm sure that's everybody's pattern.

01:29:45.30

Max Shank

Ah.

01:29:45.32

mikebledsoe

But but the ah but I like look what do what? you think about the Psycho emotional patterns. What have you noticed and learned about that.

01:30:06.18

Max Shank

So I think of it in a pretty simple way as people repeat what gives them a predictable result. Not even what gives them? ah an excellent result just a predictable one. So that's basically what a pattern is is.

01:30:31.70

mikebledsoe

M.

01:30:43.56

mikebledsoe

And people people do seek predictability. There's ah, there's a lot of people. They do ah a lot of.

01:30:43.86

Max Shank

There's predictability to it. So it's why people prefer people prefer the ah ah familiar pain to the unknown.

01:31:07.52

mikebledsoe

Yeah I've worked with a lot of people who they they came to me and there's something in their life. That's not working I mean that's that's really the the job of a coach is we work with people who they want something to be different in their life and. They want to change it and usually it's the the individual is trying to change something externally in order to create a different internal experience and a lot of times what we got to do.

01:32:12.00

Max Shank

Which can work.

01:32:18.00

mikebledsoe

Which can work but which does work which we can get into because we can talk about Environmental patterns. Ah.

01:32:25.22

Max Shank

Because a pattern is a relationship with your environment. There's a relationship within yourself which is kind of what you're talking about. But you're never in a vacuum. You know you take someone out of their existing environment and you put them into a different one and suddenly all their aches and pains go away.

01:32:43.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:33:03.12

Max Shank

Worked with this guy joint pain everywhere everything hurts ah instead of being in Boston at home. He goes down to Florida on vacation none of his shit hurts and it's like well why do you think that is like you have to explore what it is about that environment that you're that you have unresolved.

01:33:39.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:33:41.46

Max Shank

That your body is like essentially crying out because your ah pain is basically your brain saying ah not like this. That's all just not like this.. It's not ah, it's not. Ah, like bad.. It's not Shameful. It's not good. Sometimes it's incorrect where where you feel it isn't necessarily where the resolution is going to be Found. It's just a nonspecific signal that says not like this if you do it a different way. Maybe so.

01:34:36.18

mikebledsoe

Right? just.

01:34:52.28

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, so people at that spot on it pain is just ah, always talk about pain as a teacher. It's it's trying to teach you something and most people just sit in the pain because it is ah familiar.

01:34:54.20

Max Shank

But not like this.

01:35:24.30

Max Shank

Um, familiar I.

01:35:31.88

mikebledsoe

And people feel safe even in when it's painful. They'd rather feel if they feel safe in pain. They'll take that over you know the uncertainty and freedom and the a lot of times people want. You know who have been focused on changing something in their external environment even that they're not even really willing to make too many external environment changes because of what's happening internally of what that might mean for them and so yeah chicken of the egg. Yeah, and so if.

01:36:21.98

Max Shank

Um, that's a chicken or the egg type of situation too. Um.

01:36:37.40

mikebledsoe

If you've been beating your head on 1 way of making change and changing a pattern you may want to look at something else. So if you've been trying to change something environmentally or you've been trying to change your physical body and it's not working. Maybe you need to look at the internal body or you need to look at your relationships with people instead of just the environment.

01:37:11.94

Max Shank

And some people thrive on incremental change and some people thrive on radical change and is different for everybody you know, ah a lot of a lot of times where you make a leap forward in what you might call progress.

01:37:14.92

mikebledsoe

And so.

01:37:32.18

mikebledsoe

That's that's very true.

01:37:48.16

Max Shank

Because you took a giant leap toward a different environment or a different ah day-to-day Pattern It can be incremental or it can be radical.

01:38:02.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, so a lot of times these these internal patterns if we can shift those there might be ah emotions that we're making mean something with our thoughts and then that keeps us from maybe moving from Boston to Florida.

01:38:39.32

Max Shank

Right.

01:38:41.28

mikebledsoe

You know I I remember coaching one woman at this point and she she did not want to be working her job. She's like I do not like my job I want to get out of my industry I don't want to do this at all. But I'm not good at anything else. That was the story that she had. She had this internal story of yeah, that's the pattern. Yeah, and so it once we got to a point where she and she made really good money is is.

01:39:20.92

Max Shank

That's the pattern. That's some software. Yeah.

01:39:40.84

Max Shank

M.

01:39:47.70

mikebledsoe

We had to really sit down and and break down is it worth the you know is it worth possibly a lifestyle change downward which by the way is one of the people just don't do it once they hit a certain level of lifestyle coming back down that is incredibly difficult. Um, if you're used to living off $200000 a year and now I'm gonna ask you to live off $100000 a year people I I would I would have a very hard time with it people freak out wouldn't they just don't know how to do it. It's pretty much stuck there. But um.

01:40:54.24

Max Shank

Tell you? what though they would figure it out if they had to and I can I can guarantee that you know what I love speaking of patterns. So a prison that's that's a series of matter and patterns woven together to keep people inside.

01:41:03.80

mikebledsoe

They would fake Always do always do.

01:41:29.12

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:41:33.60

Max Shank

Designed by allegedly pretty smart people and guys still escape. So prison is full of the criminals who got caught so arguably the dumbest of the criminals because a smart criminal is still outside of the Jail That's what prisons do.

01:42:01.84

mikebledsoe

No.

01:42:08.62

Max Shank

They put all the dumb criminals in Jail to leave the really clever ones out of Jail so they can have the easier pick of what's left. But if you take the smart architects who are putting together this box those really smart guys. But the level of desire to be free of that Burden seems to supersede all of that technical Expertise All of the guards all of the stuff I mean it's what doesn't happen a lot but it still happens.

01:43:05.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, there's I mean if if you just study what's happening in the prisons right now not even escape but Gangs drugs. There's basically there's nothing but illegal activity happening in the prisons and the you know.

01:43:25.50

Max Shank

Gangs gangs.

01:43:40.20

Max Shank

Yeah, how could you stop it.

01:43:43.86

mikebledsoe

Ah, the stated the stated intent is for them to not be to not experience that. But yeah, you're basically just concentrating a bunch of people who got caught and ah will continue to do things.

01:44:08.26

Max Shank

Well I mean the prison system is a bad pattern. Um, because it it maximizes for ah, shame and isolation but not actually for compensation to the fucking victim of the crime.. The only thing we should care About. It does nothing for.. Ah.

01:44:50.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, I mean if if somebody violates.

01:44:56.80

Max Shank

It's like it's like it's like okay so a crime was Committed. What are we going to do are we going to help out the victim. No What we're going to do is we're going to take a little bit of everybody's money including the victims and then we're going to take the bad man to a bad place so he can. Get really isolated and angry at everybody and probably link up with a murderous gang. Ah, That's what we're going to do I'm waiting for the punchline but there it's there's nothing. There. Yeah.

01:45:55.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that's a very poor social pattern. So so I mean that's that's the that's the inside of you know of culture right? culture is the inside How we how we pattern our so our society. So.

01:46:24.60

Max Shank

Right? Well how you discipline how you discipline society right? because Rule rule is the threat and discipline is the act right? So if you if the culture.

01:46:28.86

mikebledsoe

The criminal Justice system.

01:47:02.78

Max Shank

Is in a bit of a dysfunctional abusive schizophrenic relationship with its policing of Behavior. Do you think that naturally a lot of people would do the same thing internally so that internal or pattern of how you ah Govern or police. Or discipline your own behavior whether you do it with blame and shame and isolation of that part of you versus acceptance and learning and reeducation of that party right? It's like you're putting the same experience through a very different.

01:48:03.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:48:17.88

Max Shank

Filter which I mean look the way we make Filters is really really tinier and tinier Meshes just like a net a water filter and a net that you catch fish with the the main difference is the size of the openings.

01:48:49.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, it's interesting when I think about these patterns I think about how they begun or began begun began and um these these patterns are fractal in nature so they usually started off as. They always start off as something small if we look at the pattern of humanity and um, there were not that many people on this planet five hundred years ago if you if you went to Paris France Five hundred years ago there weren't that many people there. I mean it was big for its time but compared to now it was just so tiny but all the rules all the ideas about how society should be governed stem from that time and.

01:50:07.24

Max Shank

M.

01:50:29.82

Max Shank

From France five hundred years ago or from the greeks like two thousand ish years ago like de ah when was democritus.

01:50:38.58

mikebledsoe

Well yeah, you keep going for their back but I'm just using people can I think people I think people can possibly like if we don't go too far back. But yeah you you keep going further and further back you go to the greeks you go to the hebrews you go to the Egyptians and you you follow the the thread.

01:51:04.88

Max Shank

Right? I for an eye you follow the thread which is interesting because it's like um how they did history for a while was through these tapestries and they would actually tell a story through the the chain.

01:51:16.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:51:30.24

mikebledsoe

A.

01:51:44.20

Max Shank

So it's it's really funny ah connection I made the other day and there are too many word puns to follow, but the funny connection I made is that a link is one connection and a chain is multiple connections in sequence Dna multiple connections in sequence. So that's a big difference. Um. In how those connections work together. Ah um, a chain is many connections. A matrix is also a different orientation of many connections and so different elements have different structures. That are more matrix-like or more chain-like like for example, long chain fatty acids that sort of thing so there are these um, different ways that we connect to things and a lot of it like you said tracing the thread. Back that's what we try to do. We're trying to go back and figure out where those connections started being made and the further back you go. It's none becomes None None becomes 2 None becomes 3 3 becomes all things that was in the dao two thousand years ago that's a pattern that a guy wrote down and we still can't ah absorb it. We can regurgitate it we can bounce it around. We can modify it but all those all those written things left a pattern and that is I think the story of. Human supremacy when you get right down to it. It's the fact that we were able to accumulate written knowledge and access it really quickly so you can take I mean right now on Youtube there's a thing learning about how materials are put together. Ah, Youtube channels called us auto industry and they take you through hydraulics and gears and aerodynamics and drag and they take you through all of these different things. The videos are super crystal clear simple and it's like you took that expert. His whole life and synthesized it into 10 minutes but those 10 minutes were based on generation after generation after generation of patterned ah accumulation of knowledge. So it's like ah, an external brain so we could. Ah, decode for later just very similar to Dna. It's basically a code for making a car or Dna is like a code for making proteins. But it's all it's all based on our ability to keep a record of it and a Dna of course is a living record.

01:57:14.86

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well I think about what you were saying with written. Ah we have records written and up until what one hundred years ago most people were were illiterate and a small percentage of the population could even read. So only a small percentage of population had access to understanding and not only that the books that they had access to they usually existed in a university and so there was ah a highly It was a high concentration of knowledge that. People studied that were dictating society and then about one hundred years ago literacy started to really take hold and you know because they talked about the printing press but the printing the printing press it preceded literacy without the printing press. There wouldn't be literacy but the technology. Ah. Of there being an abundance of books caused the human mind to go be curious about that enough to study how to read to learn it and now we fast forward.

01:59:36.12

Max Shank

Printing press I think that was a big thing for the gutenberg bible right.

01:59:39.38

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and I think the I think the benefit of back then was there was a limited amount of things that you could consider and you didn't have to look. You didn't have to sift through as much to go back to the beginning. Or as far back to the beginning as you could now we pull out our phone and there's videos and everything that have trapped us in what's happening right now. The the average American Yeah, the average. Yeah yeah, it's not right now right now it's it's they're sucked into.

02:00:37.10

Max Shank

Somewhere else though.

02:00:55.80

mikebledsoe

What's happening. Well no way that they're they're they're considering what's happening today. What is happening today that matters.

02:01:11.20

Max Shank

Ironically, it's a portal to anywhere else than here and now that's what's funny because you're saying it's like they're looking what's happening now elsewhere but ironic you're right? But it's also kind of ironic because you're looking for anything else.

02:01:37.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but the yeah my point is that time the time consideration is is so short like what happened last week doesn't matter anymore. It only all that matters is today and people are so people are so yeah.

02:01:40.80

Max Shank

But here and now.

02:01:53.80

Max Shank

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay so that's insanity. That's insanity full on insanity.

02:02:15.48

mikebledsoe

People people are so engrossed they have so much data coming in about what matters today in the whole world that they think they should yeah they don't have boundaries but that person is totally ingrossed andgross in what's happening now doesn't have the opportunity to look back in history.

02:02:29.48

Max Shank

Because they can't draw boundaries.

02:02:54.90

mikebledsoe

To go back and say how was consciousness formed. How did we come to these considerations. What actually is science. There is.

02:03:07.94

Max Shank

Well think of the usefulness of code and the usefulness of 24 hour news it is antithetical so a book is code a person is the computer Basically that runs that code. And so if you want something to be organized. It should be organized by outcome or by subject or by material. But if you have it organized by what the fucking pricks are talking about on the Tv today. That's the worst organization possible and it's very difficult to get any kind of good information out of that and you're going to be basically putting out your own schizophrenic psychological fires because you're like oh my god didn't realize what was happening in Serbia and then the next week you're like oh my god I didn't realize what was happening in. South Africa and then you're like oh my god I didn't realize what was happening to the veterans and then pretty soon you're whipped up into this frenzy where you're upset about everything but you can't do anything about it and it makes you feel so disconnected because. What you're aware of your radius of awareness and your radius of control are so far apart and that goes back to why working with stuff with your hands even just moving stuff around like moving weights around with your hands that'll make a big difference. It'll connect you to reality.

02:05:55.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

02:06:07.56

Max Shank

Go climb a tree. Go take a walk Boom you're immediately connected into reality into moving your body locomotion or projectiles moving other stuff and if you are if you're just whipped into this frenzy because you know people are trying to program other people. It's all we do. In fact.

02:06:24.40

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

02:06:46.70

Max Shank

Pretty much as we try to program other people. Ah usually with the best of intentions too like I'm sure there are None of people who think school is like a good idea and and I just don't but that's fine. Yeah yeah, they they probably want people to like.

02:07:08.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, their heart's in the right place You think it's best for the kids. Well people also think that it's um, ah just they they think I think a lot of people they go Well I did it so it must be good. So other people should do it I mean that's.

02:07:21.12

Max Shank

Behave themselves and like get married and like kept.

02:07:41.16

Max Shank

Um, well and that's even a different thing like it. It's like hazing.

02:07:47.92

mikebledsoe

That's big in the military of like I'm looking at the training and I go this doesn't really make sense. We're not really optimizing for getting better at our job. They're like well this we we went through it and no I'm like all whatever.

02:08:14.64

Max Shank

Sometimes things are done a certain way because it really is the best way and sometimes things are done a certain way literally just because that's how they've been doing it and no one can imagine a different no one even tries to imagine a different way.

02:08:25.96

mikebledsoe

Sometimes.

02:08:54.30

Max Shank

You know and that's why you don't want to fight things Anyway, speaking of patterns when you fight something you immediately create a counterforce even if you punch the shit out of that thing upon that connection of your fist and that fucker's face. There's a counter force going right back into your fist and then more. Metaphorically speaking you're going to create a counter response to your active opposing Force. So That's why it's always better to obsolete than to fight if you have the option.

02:09:52.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah I was reading a book yesterday that was talking about that is the the the people who are censoring are fighting. They're really fighting decentralization but censorship creates the necessity for decentralization and. You know Twitter Facebook Instagram they're trying to fight misinformation but the harder that they tried to fight misinformation with censorship the more prolific decentralization becomes because people start getting they start leaving the platform to go.

02:11:07.18

Max Shank

It's natural. It's like cat and mouse. It's like it's natural cat and mouse evolution. The cat evolves longer claws. The mouse gets smaller and more clever. Ah same kind of idea right? You have hackers and then you got people who work in.

02:11:09.80

mikebledsoe

To go to something That's not a platform. Yeah.

02:11:42.86

Max Shank

Ah, software security which of course are also hackers. But they're basically like 1 upping each other all the time just the way that creatures have seemed to ah grow and evolve and fork out into these different sort of test branches almost.

02:12:13.96

mikebledsoe

Now. Yeah.

02:12:20.66

Max Shank

So it's better to obsolete and speaking of the patterns like we were talking about. Ah, it's hard to recognize which of the programs coming in are important and not important a lot of the time I think that can be a real challenge.

02:12:53.38

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, well that's a pattern too. The things that you're filtering what's important and not important so fast that it's it's built up over the years of life that you go.

02:12:57.58

Max Shank

Most everything is ah like not important that.

02:13:31.62

mikebledsoe

This is this is important. Not important people decide really quick and they miss opportunities really great opportunities all the time just pass right by them. There's there's this thing called the reticular activating system are familiar to ah Ras. Okay.

02:13:41.52

Max Shank

Oh.

02:14:02.20

Max Shank

No, but I'd like to be.

02:14:09.30

mikebledsoe

You probably are you just probably don't know by name and it's it's if I start if I go out and buy a red truck. What am I going to see on the road all the time a red truck. Yeah, we prime we primed the system.

02:14:26.64

Max Shank

Okay I do know what you're talking about.

02:14:42.64

mikebledsoe

For now seeing red trucks because red truck has become very important to me I just spent $50000 on a red truck and I love this thing and I have this emotional connection to it and so now I start seeing them everywhere so the same thing happens with ah.

02:15:04.80

Max Shank

Whoa.

02:15:22.16

mikebledsoe

People and their patterns is they they notice patterns and make things important only because that's always how it's been, but you can you can intentionally change the pattern of your mind through things like mantras or by by having a conversation with someone else who can create. Help create a possibility for you. You have a conversation you and I have a deep conversation about a topic and the next thing I know I'm meeting people who can help me with this opportunity. Maybe you and I have this business idea and all of a sudden people start coming through that can contribute to this business idea. And that's the that's the ah Ras and that's most people's ah Ras is really just running the same program all the time they're noticing the same things that no purple cows. Yeah, but if you can.

02:17:00.86

Max Shank

No purple cows. You're just seeing normal stuff.

02:17:14.55

mikebledsoe

Intentionally go in there and tinker with the pattern of how you think which is fairly easy then you can start seeing new opportunities.

02:17:31.86

Max Shank

You know what's wild is the only reason you can see anything at all is because of Pattern recognition your your eyes just giving you a very um surface level reflection of photons that have bounced back and each.

02:17:44.45

mikebledsoe

Now.

02:18:11.62

Max Shank

Color has a different ah frequency to it and you have different Organs rods and cones in your eye that decipher those and eventually it does create this image but the only reason that image means anything is because of Pattern Recognition. So if you um. Try to like if you kind of simplify it down if you see a wall of triangles and then one square in there, you're going to be like whoa. That's ah, that's a little weird. You're going to be like what's that square doing in this wall of triangles and vice versa and that's why as you get to be ah like to have more simple type of vision like a lizard. Ah, many Lizards at least they can't really see stuff unless it moves and that's why they say that the eye is attracted to movement and when you start getting into the neuroscience of Vision. It's It's a deep deep Rabbit hole. In understanding the patterns around you but it just shows you once again, what it's useful to show you so you can find the banana and not get eaten by a tiger or a hawk or something like that.

02:20:29.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well is where something where psychedelics get really interesting. Take a couple hits of acid and you start noticing what it what acid one of the things it does lsd it. It starts creating new connections in the brain. Usually the neural connections are going between the None shortest points between the None and that's one of the things that creates the pattern of attention. Yeah, and mushrooms do this lsd does this but it starts the.

02:21:16.80

Max Shank

Um, just like fungus and most things most things yeah water.

02:21:36.36

mikebledsoe

It starts connecting parts of the brain that have never been connected before and even there's this thing called I think it's Synestasia where you can see colors or or taste sounds yeah see music and um, but yeah, yeah, bet.

02:21:51.84

Max Shank

He see music. Yeah sounds cool I've never experienced that myself I would love to see music I mean I've seen like us.

02:22:14.40

mikebledsoe

And you've never seen music.

02:22:27.14

Max Shank

Ah I've seen us use pretty cool tools to turn sound waves into vibrating Sand or lasers or sine waves or.

02:22:35.26

mikebledsoe

Um, there was a day I had I was on 2 hits ass and maybe 4 somewhere in there and um, sometimes I heard to tell what you took I was listening to music and I was looking at this picture.

02:23:06.10

Max Shank

It's another reason why you're not the research department hard to know if it was 2 or 4 Okay, so don't go to Mike for the recipe. Okay I'm not sure if it's one tablespoon of baking soda or one cup I don't know.

02:23:22.94

mikebledsoe

Ah. Whatever same thing. Ah so but I'm looking I'm looking at a painting and with each beat of the meat of the music. The colors are changing and the music and the painting are interacting and the painting's actually not that colorful. There was maybe.

02:23:41.60

Max Shank

It's not the same thing.

02:24:09.88

mikebledsoe

3 or 4 colors total but colors were changing and then there were images that were they were appearing that I didn't notice before but you could also go hiking out nature and then it disrupts the patterns of what you already see because people walk they can go walk a trail or they go walk around their neighborhood and they don't.

02:24:21.74

Max Shank

That's cool.

02:24:49.62

mikebledsoe

They kind of notice the same things they don't notice the same things I mean people miss stuff all time if if you you know you've probably been hiking with people and you're noticing. It's like oh or they notice something you don't but if you're on something like Lsd you're gonna notice. So many other things and that's why a lot of times people really don't move much. They don't they're not going to travel a long distance when on that that medicine and they're going to because they're so busy noticing the palm of their hand and looking at oh my gosh look at all these lines and.

02:25:30.82

Max Shank

Let he.

02:26:01.58

mikebledsoe

And your ability to see is just is is so enhanced but that's a really good example of something that disrupts a pattern to where you really can't go about your daily life like if I if I'm on asset and you ask me to go to a cashier and make a purchase. It's It's not going to happen I Just can't do the.

02:26:35.44

Max Shank

Hey.

02:26:39.98

mikebledsoe

Those patterns that are so ingrained that I whip my card out normally don't even think about it. But if I have to buy a sandwich at a festival. Um I'm having a problem.

02:26:46.32

Max Shank

My. Yeah I mean when you overdo it on any kind of substance Beyond like capabilities. Ah I think ah.

02:27:13.20

mikebledsoe

That's true. Well the difference between that like alcohol like you're just you're like you're so depressed that you can't make sense of the world and with Lsd Everything is so loud that you can't filter it all.

02:27:33.56

Max Shank

I Just remember when I was in college I was really ah hammered I Drank like a small bottle of tequila on my own and I got into an argument with a ticketing machine on the trolley and we couldn't resolve our differences So I ultimately had to jump. Over the turnsile. But I mean I I literally couldn't figured out how to pay $2 at ah at a screen but thats because I was inebriated Beyond belief but ah you mentioned something cool which is you notice more and what? what is a pattern.

02:28:15.00

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

02:28:47.52

Max Shank

Or what is a frequency without a sensor to pick it up so people have different levels of sensitivity to different things like when you're when you're learning how to emf is one when you're learning how to do massage right? I mean.

02:29:00.20

mikebledsoe

Um, emf is 1 Yeah.

02:29:27.32

Max Shank

I'm guessing a lot of people have experienced a good massage and a bad one and it's really obvious when the person can't feel the structures of your body with precision. You know it's very obvious and so.

02:29:57.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

02:30:06.46

Max Shank

There are different levels of sensitivity to like let's say your fingertips like think about Braille. For example, if you if you dragged your hand across a bunch of bumps on a page you would have no idea what they mean, but someone who had finally tuned their sensory skills. Would pick that up right away and I think that's what the the substances some substances can do is they can open up your sensor. They basically turn you into this big radar dish that is capable of picking up way more signal than usual and I think why it's so.

02:31:04.68

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

02:31:21.40

Max Shank

Ah, overwhelming to go walk around is because instead of taking in. Let's say five gigabytes of visual information. Every step now you're taking five thousand gigabytes or five terabytes of visual visual ah input every step and.

02:31:51.12

mikebledsoe

It's a lot. It's a big difference.

02:31:59.88

Max Shank

You know if you don't have the right equipment. You can't sense those things. That's why we see ah rgb Basically and that's why the little tiny lights on your screen that you may be watching right now are red green and blue because that's.

02:32:12.78

mikebledsoe

Me.

02:32:37.58

Max Shank

How we see things and other animals have different ah structure in their eyes like sadly for asian deer they can't really see orange so that makes a tiger that is orange with black stripes nearly impossible to see in that environment. But. If you put that tiger in a different environment like I don't know Alaska or some shit where it's or or somewhere where it's white. It's not going to camouflage very well at all. So it's all about that specific relationship between the deer that can't see orange the environment.

02:33:32.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

02:33:54.64

Max Shank

And the color of the cat and the pattern on the Cat. So. It's is very fascinating. Um, how it's always that relationship. It's really important to think of it in terms of what relationship we would love for some things to be totally universal, but apart from the fact that. You know everything is jiggling around all the time there aren't too many ah fundamental truths that are always the Case. It's usually ah contextual.

02:34:48.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah I want I want to bring this to I want to get some ah practical things here. So um, other than taking lsd talking about breaking out of old patterns and into new patterns. Ah, one of the exercises I actually got from Dan Sullivan and it's the None x thinking I think it's what he calls it ten x and it's all right? You're creating an offer. You're you're creating say a coaching package.

02:35:40.34

Max Shank

Hit.

02:35:58.26

Max Shank

The.

02:36:01.82

mikebledsoe

And you know so many coaches have a hard time imagining being able to charge more than 2 or $300 a month or $400 a month and so and so it's good to sit down. Go well what if you were to sell something for 2 or $3000 a month. Let's add a 0 here.

02:36:17.92

Max Shank

Yeah.

02:36:39.58

mikebledsoe

What would that offer look like what would make it that valuable and all of a sudden all these ideas come flooding in was a well shit man if I had that kind of if it was of that much value and I had some money to play around with I would actually be able to vote more of my time energy into this person or I would be able to partner with this other. Other thing and maybe I'm doing blood work now on top of what I'm already offering so the the None x thinking saying? Okay, what would you if we were to take 10 ah 10 times what you're currently charging what would that look like and on the flip side. There's also what would you offer. What could you offer for none of what you're charging. What would be $20 or $30 and now you start having all sorts of different ideas about and that's one way of breaking out of a pattern and it doesn't just apply to money it can apply to.

02:38:00.56

Max Shank

Totally yeah.

02:38:31.20

mikebledsoe

A lot of other things that the 10 x thinking or the None thinking if you had 10 times more time in the day you know what would you do or I really like having saying yeah you have yet 10 say there's 240 hours

02:38:43.28

Max Shank

Um, that's a good question 10 times more time in the day.

02:39:08.40

mikebledsoe

And the day that'd be That's more than a week. What if you what if you had a whole week to accomplish what and other people were just living a day. What would that look like.

02:39:12.58

Max Shank

I think I would. So if I if I knew I was going to live None times longer than them.

02:39:33.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that's ah, that's a good way of thinking about it. Let's just let's just imagine you're going to live to a thousand and everyone else is going to live to a None

02:39:40.20

Max Shank

Well so age isn't about the number of days you've been Alive. It's about the knowledge that you've accumulated in the experiences you've had right. Being alive lots of days doesn't mean shit if you spent your whole day just like living inside Watching. Ah.

02:40:15.94

mikebledsoe

Well let's just but we're measuring in days. That's the measure all right? Let's say in a month and um and in a month you lived um, you got as much done in six months and everyone else got.

02:40:26.24

Max Shank

What do you? So what's the question.

02:40:39.78

Max Shank

I mean.

02:40:55.42

mikebledsoe

Done in one month let's just look at it like that I think you do too which but most people don't like most people would what? what? what? What comes up leverage is 1 thing but also when we started thinking about time in this way I think.

02:40:56.90

Max Shank

I mean I already do that.

02:41:10.50

Max Shank

Right? It's about it's about leverage. It's all about leverage.

02:41:32.28

mikebledsoe

It's a really great way to get away from comparison because if I if I stop I can't compare myself to someone else if we're talking about a 10 X difference in time if I'm experiencing a 10 X difference in time than other people which I think you're one of those people that experience time different. Than other people. Most people are cramming their schedule with back to back to back to back and have no time to breathe and you're someone who is ah has a lot more leisure space. Yeah.

02:42:31.78

Max Shank

It's hard to get me on a calendar like this show actually is wild because I've never understood the fact that we've been so consistent I mean folks like it. It really just goes to show how much I enjoy the experience because I and everybody else. We do exactly what we want all the time. Ah, we do whatever we think is going to give us the best result this is a lot of fun. So I do it if it's not fun I don't really do it and the idea of cramming a day full of appointments sounds awful but having the ability. To connect with who I like sounds sounds amazing.

02:43:48.76

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so we have that that. Ah, if if you could say hey I'm going to live 1000 years how would you behave? How would you? How would you live each day. It would probably you would probably do things differently and if I were to say that you experience.

02:44:16.40

Max Shank

I would.

02:44:26.86

mikebledsoe

You only have let's say 3 hours where everyone else has 24 hours in a day. How do you say you only have three what we call it three waking hours if you only had three waking hours well everyone else had a full you know 16 hour waking day and you only had 3 what would.

02:44:33.30

Max Shank

Um, yeah, right. Um, yeah now.

02:45:06.56

mikebledsoe

What would you do with your time and that's a really great way to find priorities because if you only have most people they look at their day and go I've got a 16 hour waking period of time and I don't have enough time in the day that's a problem.

02:45:32.84

Max Shank

Well I mean totally what you're talking about is the crux of success or power Even um, basically it's pressure or force per area or per. Distance right? Like how much effort or how much what can you? invest energy wise to get the largest return at the end. Basically ah if you could spend yeah and what you're doing basically is.

02:46:29.10

mikebledsoe

No.

02:46:45.48

Max Shank

2 orders of magnitude mathematical thinking up and down so you have a None x swing in your ideas about that topic. So you're creating an upper and lower bound that are certainly further away than most people would naturally think which is why that ah framework or that.

02:46:48.10

mikebledsoe

Empty.

02:47:22.38

Max Shank

Ah, pattern to filter this idea through is so useful because it gets you to think how could I divide the membership by None how could I multiply it by 10 how could I get the cost. How could I increase the cost 10 x you know all that stuff. But it's. It comes back down to leverage ultimately because it's how much can you ah get out energy-wise for how much you put in and if we're using time as the limiting limiting factor because ah for us energy and time are. So closely linked. They might as well be the same thing for most for for the sake of most things but it ah it's still important to see like what gives you the biggest return on one hour of your time and just thinking about um.

02:48:37.24

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

02:49:12.58

Max Shank

What to do in terms of multiply by 10 divide by 10 very cool but it is ultimately about leverage. It is about how much you can get out for each one that you put in per unit of investment.

02:49:36.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah I said we wrap this up. My computer is giving me weird signals and let's bring it home.

02:49:46.88

Max Shank

Bring it bring it home bring it home I mean that's a see this is what I was worried about I feel like there's a lot left to discuss I feel like we didn't get into the different vibrations of very dense and. Porous materials and I we hardly got into computer programming at all but look I'm going to I'm going to keep it simple from my end all right when it comes to human beings today. Everything we have has been built off of the accumulation of these patterns. These patterns are our Dna. These patterns are the books that have sustained or the stories that have sustained the human programming. That has sustained and the programming or the code or the recipes for how to make really insanely awesome tools and I would say those are like the 3 practical things for human beings and then. I think it's fun to talk about crystals and metal and manufacturing and all that stuff but without the code without the instructions without the chain of events without knowing how to put all those links together in the proper sequence. You can't get a car. You can't get a cellphone. You can't even get a fucking good loaf of bread. The recipe's got to be done in order. The only way you'll know is with the pattern the code.

02:53:07.20

mikebledsoe

Excellent, yeah and look at your own Life. You're living out a pattern from day to day and if something's not going the way that you want it to go analyze that Pattern. That's what I call Dysfunction. Something's not going the way you want to go. There's a dysfunction in your pattern somewhere. And it's a fract.. It's fractal Nature. You may need to look really far back and mostly the patterns of behavior and the ways of thinking and your emotional patterns all stem from your childhood. So if you want to be able to to really look at that you might have to get into a really reflective space and maybe. Come to some hard truths and that may give you the opportunity to make new decisions moving forward and create New Patterns. Thanks for joining me max where where people finding you. What are we doing http://maxshaink.com.

02:54:52.64

Max Shank

http://maxshank.com at maxank. Ah, if you guys have any questions for the show or about the show I will I'll I'll answer him I think that would be fun like to connect with the audience a little bit more. So thanks for tuning in. Thank you Mike.

02:55:15.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, and I got a summit coming up this weekend for coaches out there. It starts on Thursday we're gonna go four to five hours a day and Thursday through Saturday and then if you're an academy member you you obviously get up extra access vi ipd on sunday. Ah, if you want to get it in on that it's a pay what you want go to shop dot http://thestrongcoach.com. Thanks y'all. That's a great deal.

02:56:02.74

Max Shank

That's a good deal.

Jun 16, 2022
A life fully lived & experienced… what does that even mean?

In this week's episode, Aaron Hinde & I paint a picture of what it looks like

From bankruptcy to the “top of the mountain”, to losing almost everything in fires, family dynamics, and creating even more beauty from the ashes

Listen in. You’ll love this one
Jun 13, 2022

00:01.12

Max Shank

Here's the deal. So there's a perfect, no intro this we're just here now you're here we're here I'm here you're here. We're all here the official show but this is for just the like inner club. But anyway I was going to say a case study.

00:02.60

mikebledsoe

It's the first one.

00:16.94

mikebledsoe

We'll do the intro when we start the official show.

00:35.54

Max Shank

On viewer engagement. One of the best I've ever seen was this Youtube channel called Ants Canada okay I think it's like a filipino dude. It's some asian guy who has this Youtube channel called Ants Canada and every fucking film.

00:51.20

mikebledsoe

Ahead.

01:14.58

Max Shank

Is about ants and ant colonies and he sells ant gear but basically he has this membership that he calls the Ac senate right? and so he basically has people pay to have a say in all kinds of weird stuff like. What are we gonna do with this new colony. What are we gonna name this thing and he gives them like preferential voting rights for what happens in the community. It's so crazy. How ah how much this guy connects with the audience. And's so it's a weird stuff ah because ants and ant colonies are pretty weird but talk about a case study for how to engage with an audience. This guy is dialed ants Canada case study ants st ants canada is a case study for.

02:57.28

mikebledsoe

Aunts Canada alright.

03:07.76

Max Shank

How to engage with your audience on multiple levels. He sells physical products. He has basically ah a membership where you get called? yeah like ants like the bug the insect. Yeah exactly it's incredible.

03:28.28

mikebledsoe

It's a and TS like like the like the insect to podcast.

03:46.40

Max Shank

No, it's video series Youtube thing. It's not a podcast but he sells ant colony plastic molded parts to people. He also has this this. It's the weirdest thing I've ever heard of like you would wonder like why is it that people would pay to get to make decisions but he has positioned the joy of naming a new ant colony or deciding what to do. In this like new video series as good as Tom Sawyer ah portraying the benefits of whitewashing offense. He's like wouldn't you guys like to make this decision for him like they are driving his content and paying to drive the content. It's.

05:30.86

mikebledsoe

It's really I mean it's as Facebook Twitter you know create the platform. Yeah create the platform and just let them let the let the people be the product was that the people will create the product. They'll be the product.

05:32.38

Max Shank

It's unbelievable Youtube oh my god what an acquisition.

06:02.50

mikebledsoe

And then you just sell advertising.

06:08.32

Max Shank

It's like ah what they did with was it Hong Kong or Singapore can't I remember 1 of them. It's like the guy's name was Lee coshing you ever hear that guy. Ah.

06:30.90

mikebledsoe

E.

06:41.24

Max Shank

Rikash xing Hong Kong business magnate none richest guy in the world. His whole thing. He just like built up. Ah let's see hold on. I don't know his whole thing was about owning the port that that was the that was the ah whole story. Basically.

07:24.20

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, it's kind of like the the gold rush. The people who made the most money were the ones selling the shovels I think that's where maybe Levi's came from the blue jeans is yeah I'm not 100% sure on this but I I think that ah that.

07:38.16

Max Shank

Right. Um, leave eyes.

08:03.32

mikebledsoe

That denim company or maybe another denim company Levi's make sense though. Ah made their fortune and their start by selling denim clothing to miners. It's really durable.

08:25.20

Max Shank

Like little kids or like go look for gold in the mines Now they probably send sell more to little kids I don't know I don't wear a lot of jeans. Do you wear a lot of jeans.

08:36.64

mikebledsoe

Look go look for golden mines. Yeah, yeah, off to I'd like to not anymore not with the not with the clothes that come out today I just discovered. Um.

09:02.16

Max Shank

I Hardly wear jeans. It's not that comfortable.

09:15.54

mikebledsoe

Viori made a new pant that is looks really clean, but dude great for travel because I can wear them in a hundred degree weather I might as well be wearing shorts they breathe So well, they look nice and you know I.

09:24.24

Max Shank

Ah. Are yeah.

09:51.22

mikebledsoe

I Don't even like to wear shorts I don't like to wear casual shorts I Either want to wear pants or athletic shorts and it might be something it might be like spillover from the the military because that's pretty much how it works there. But I think like casual shorts look silly on men. Ah.

10:01.80

Max Shank

A.

10:17.60

Max Shank

Right? right. Um, like what? what do you mean?? casual shorts like cargo pants.

10:31.28

mikebledsoe

That's just like you know like yeah like like cargo shorts or just like the shorts that are pants that are cut off. You know it's It's like those are kind of silly. It's like when I just wear athletic shorts I'm like an athletic shorts and fanny pack or I'm going to be wearing.

10:49.96

Max Shank

Ah, you know what.

11:07.94

mikebledsoe

You know some slacks.

11:10.94

Max Shank

You know what? I'm really into is like the like the ah Rei type of hiking pant and I and I want to get some that turn into shorts but I was thinking about it and I don't know if I would rather have them unzip all the way.

11:22.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

11:47.58

Max Shank

Or if I would want to have them roll up and clip on I haven't seen many like that there are some out there because I have I have a couple pairs totally but the utility I mean.

11:51.50

mikebledsoe

I think roll up and clip on makes more sense there. There are some out there I've seen some yeah the zip out I try to avoid moving parts as I try to. Until the zipper breaks plus rolling up just looks way cooler. That's that's the real Rob there they look cooler than having a zipper hanging off your shorts.

12:26.52

Max Shank

Is fantastic. So maybe maybe the roll up till the zipper breaks. Yeah, that's a good point. Those are my my favorite pants I got a couple at Costco they're just.

12:57.00

Max Shank

Yeah, that's a great point I went on a bike ride yesterday actually mountain bike ride for the None time in like years. Ah, all because I was learning about air compressors and how our compressors work.

13:03.40

mikebledsoe

I mean.

13:34.56

Max Shank

And so I was getting out my air compressor and I was like how how does my air compressor work. How powerful is this thing Really what kind of stuff because I bought one when I got my house because I was like every house needs an air compressor because I was ah like I didn't really know? Yeah, like yeah.

13:59.32

mikebledsoe

Oh like a proper air compressor one with a big tank. Yeah, not the kind that you carry around in your car. Yeah something you could use with tools and whatnot. Yeah yeah, I'm into those those.

14:12.76

Max Shank

Like a little pancake. No no I wouldn't It's a little too big and heavy for that. Yeah, like a nail gun staple gun that kind of thing and so those things are savage.

14:36.38

mikebledsoe

I've got some air compressor tools. If if you're gonna work on a car I don't know how I don't know how I worked on a car before I have that which I don't really work on cars much anymore. But I remember that being a major upgrade.

15:04.26

Max Shank

Yeah I think knowing how to put stuff together like that is such an underrated ability because I notice as I am problem solving in the garage with my hands. It makes me it makes it easier for me to visualize how to put other things together. Like Ideas. You know this attaches to this and you have to divide this. You have to sharpen this. You have to round off these edges. There are all these problem solving things that go on with how to put stuff together and it makes me even think of like mathematics how that factors in to.

15:43.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, there's um.

16:20.62

Max Shank

Putting stuff together and how much how much you just learn through the process of doing it. You know it's good to know arithmetic. But I have it.

16:32.70

mikebledsoe

There's a book. There's a book called the metaphors we live by and have you read it did you did you buy it on my recommendation or did you just happen to get it simultaneously. Wow Yeah I I hardly run in anyone who's read it. Ah.

16:52.62

Max Shank

I think I had I think I bought it before? Yeah yeah, ah yes, and like most books I've read I maybe retained like 10%

17:08.18

mikebledsoe

But have you read it.

17:22.74

mikebledsoe

Got it? Yeah so metaphors we live by really highlights how the mind works and that everything in the mind is a metaphor to something an objective reality and so ah so kind of like the.

17:53.96

Max Shank

Right now.

18:00.98

mikebledsoe

Projectile and project metaphor We talked about before yeah eyeballs. Um.

18:06.94

Max Shank

Eyeballs eyeballs are super reliable but they're not showing you objective reality because there are a lot of layers.

18:19.88

mikebledsoe

Well, they are but you're not filtering it. But anyways.

18:32.44

Max Shank

Well your eyes don't show you objective reality your eyes show you? How light is reacting with matter but there's a lot going on that is beyond. The visible spectrum is what I'm saying.

18:44.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

18:55.10

mikebledsoe

Totally. But so one of the things it talks about is ah like ontological metaphors and so one is how we refer to the mind. So the mind is a machine so there's all these examples of.

19:26.90

Max Shank

A.

19:33.86

mikebledsoe

Ah, that in in the English language the mind is a machine and it's also brittle and so when you look at the English language as a whole the majority of the references to the mind is that it's a mechanical thing that's brittle.

19:48.36

Max Shank

A.

20:09.12

Max Shank

Right? It sounds dangerous. Sounds like a dangerous belief to me like that that makes me a little queasy even based on how I see the mind or how I would try to define the mind or even just the brain.

20:13.48

mikebledsoe

And so ah, people believe that it yes and.

20:44.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but but you know and and it's common language is as people are talking are unconsciously talking about it in this way. So they're further embedding this thing is true and so they they they don't know how to treat their own own mind or organize it because they actually have an incorrect.

20:48.30

Max Shank

Like the organ because I think that's different.

21:00.58

Max Shank

Um, right right.

21:23.92

mikebledsoe

Or an inaccurate view of what it actually is ah so one of the things the book talks about is how we use objects to ah create Concepts so anything that's conceptual. We're having we need to.

21:28.26

Max Shank

He no.

21:48.00

Max Shank

E.

21:58.28

mikebledsoe

Associate it with an object out in physical space and so ah, one of the things that I've noticed I'm in total agreement with you I've been I've been meditating on this because I read that book about a year ago and I noticed that as I've been doing more physical tasks and building things that my ability to problem solving in the conceptual realm has gone way up and anytime I'm having a conceptual problem I go work on something that's on an object I go build something or fix something. Ah.

22:45.12

Max Shank

A.

23:07.18

mikebledsoe

All of a sudden the world makes more sense and I think part of that is if we spend too much time in the conceptual Realm without being in the objective Realm Then we end up. Ah, we end up way out in this place that doesn't make any sense. And and we become ungrounded and I know you and ah I are alike in this way because we love the mental Masturbation. We'll go off into some conceptual Realm and start changing. You know, ah physicists do this. They'll change one lot of physics to solve a problem and then they try to. Bring it back and so and then reapply to law and and it's one way of doing experimentation but the problem is a lot of people start doing that and they never come back to Earth and so I think having that balance between doing things and objective reality and conceptual. And conceptualizing things is really really beneficial.

25:12.48

Max Shank

Oh Yeah I was laughing so many times there because it makes me think about how enslaved people are by thinking certain things matter and the word matter is funny right? Because. Stuff matters. Ah you know water is matter air is matter and these ideas that we have. It's like we think too many things matter that aren't matter at all.

25:51.44

mikebledsoe

Right.

26:02.36

mikebledsoe

This bottle is matter.

26:26.50

mikebledsoe

Ah, well does just to make the statement that something is matter that isn't matter pulls you out of reality. You've become ungrounded.

26:28.36

Max Shank

And you are just more and more divorced from reality because hold right? of course look um these words and ideas are. Very useful and it's never the complete truth because they're just symbols right? but they are concrete enough to give us the plans to make a plane or a computer I mean that's all language derived and that's how the matter is directed. So. The ideas are like the pattern like Pattern Pattern father and the stuff the substance the matter the mother ma her modern is ah guided by our ideas. But if you don't have what's that yeah.

28:09.34

mikebledsoe

Oh man I'm loving these metaphors that that makes so much sense because that the father is is the structure of like the pattern structure and the matter is the stuff.

28:23.80

Max Shank

Yeah, if you don't yeah if you don't have the father's the pattern the Pattern the pattern right? mother is the matter. Yeah, the stuff and the ah the energy.

28:47.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

28:55.84

Max Shank

It's like kinetic and potential I mean there are a lot of ways that you can ah yin and young and dichotomize these ideas right? But ah my point is that we are made of matter you eat an orange. You actually are that orange is becoming you. And your body is able to break it down into its basic components and then that stuff becomes you and the stuff that doesn't become you becomes shit or sweat or something like I mean it's crazy, but it literally becomes you so this idea. That when you um, get your hands involved. You get so much of your brain involved and then it's rooted in a reality that is very easy to understand. It's very It's all about, um. God I guess it's all about power really when you get down to it because we're talking about ah force times distance ah or work over time is power ah, power is work over time work is force times distance. And that's that's a reality that's easy to track momentum things like that all this dark matter. Ah like black hole shit is mental masturbation. It's fine. It's mental masturbation though. But once you start getting in there and you can do macrame you can. Ah, make something out of wood. You could carve something out of Clay. Ah but building that connection between your creativity and your curiosity and this physical reality is critical and if you apply that same thing to fitness. Fitness is essentially ah how well you're able to deliver force how well you're able to deliver force into your right leg so you can run and take a step with your right leg and how well you can absorb.

32:56.36

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

33:21.00

Max Shank

And return Force I Mean That's why my latest training program is called elasticity because it's all about absorbing and returning forests without ah permanent deformation and that's that's like as close as you can get to the best longevity practice. And we all have our pet loves for ah what makes fitness good or what makes you live a long time. But if you ah you know have good friendships and family kind of ties if you have fun and if you. Ah, fast. So You just don't eat too Much. You'll live a really long time even if you're just like medium elastic Fitness you just need ah a basic level of how to interact with your environment with these alternating forces.

34:48.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

35:06.26

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

35:11.64

Max Shank

Ah, so it just it's very centering even climbing a tree go climb a tree and then you are like intimately associated with the forces required to lift you up off the ground and once you're in those situations you have room to explore and then this. Idea of like what matters or like what you should be fucking prideful of like I God I was just thinking the other day you know almost every holiday is about victimization that we have. Like almost every holiday is like it fucking kills me because we have like okay we have like memorial day that's ah, it's for the people who were killed like we are appreciating those poor victims but that's what they were. They were victims and of course we don't talk about like why they were victimized.

36:44.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

37:07.34

Max Shank

Because people don't really like that when you go in? Oh dude I'll be fucking kicked right out of the cemetery if I say these guys died for nothing but the fucking ambitions of old politicians with nothing better to do than tell other people how to live their fucking lives.

37:07.66

mikebledsoe

Of you start getting into that but people will get offended.

37:46.40

Max Shank

And so people don't like people don't like that no way because you know to generalize Bobby Joe went into that Vietnam and he did his country proud and that is a way better belief to take with you than he died for nothing.

37:46.40

mikebledsoe

Um, people don't like that. No no.

38:08.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you know what? um.

38:25.90

Max Shank

But some fuck fuckwit politicians who just think they know best right.

38:32.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah I um, my girlfriend and I are out. We do things around town and Texas is a very patriotic place and I which means I get a lot of discounts because I'm a veteran and.

39:04.54

Max Shank

The.

39:09.66

mikebledsoe

I get a 5% discount on my guns at Cabels. Ah, it's i't I can't get a discount on guns anywhere. Ah yeah, but I get in free at play at parks and stuff and in Texas where other people are paying to get in anyways. So I get.

39:20.44

Max Shank

That's pretty cool and.

39:46.30

mikebledsoe

Hit with thank you for your service pretty frequently and and Ashley my fiancee she she knows how I feel about every you know about a lot of things she goes. What's it like what's it like to hear that because you know I always just say oh yeah, you're welcome. You know that's what my.

39:49.18

Max Shank

If.

40:05.30

Max Shank

Um, ah a threat.

40:24.30

mikebledsoe

My my pleasure you know, whatever it is that comes to mind at the time you know whatever I'm just trying to make them feel good about them giving me a compliment or whatever. But and when I did join I did think I was going in to be of service to humanity that was.

40:29.28

Max Shank

Ah, thank you.

40:42.14

Max Shank

Right.

41:01.94

mikebledsoe

Impression I was under but the yeah where I stand now is like yeah I don't feel proud I don't feel ashamed I kind of just I'm very neutral about it. It's I've dealt with the fact that I got duped and like.

41:19.78

Max Shank

He no.

41:36.18

Max Shank

I Guess you could call that neutral. Ah.

41:41.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah I mean I got well I got duped and I've accepted it I'm at peace with it right? like we've all been duped. We've all been duped and you know what I'm I'm lucky because you know I did get some really great experiences out of that that made me a very resilient guy and.

41:52.52

Max Shank

Ah, ah, okay, right.

42:08.80

Max Shank

Yeah, and.

42:17.24

mikebledsoe

You know there's There's a lot of benefits I got from it most mostly the discounts but the.

42:28.64

Max Shank

I Just imagine if someone said take you for your service and he said yeah I was probably a mistake. Or or just like I wouldn't recommend I wouldn't recommend it.

42:46.66

mikebledsoe

Ah, you know I'm I'm trying that out. Well, it's bad enough that people are going to hear this on the show. Ah, but yeah, it's like ah that's all we know. But yeah, it's um.

43:08.84

Max Shank

Um, hey look it's not for everybody. It wasn't for you. That's all we know it wasn't for you. It wasn't for you.

43:24.40

mikebledsoe

But what you're saying is accurate because the the way Well the well we can go back to the holidays. But when I look at when I look at um, the government and military service and all these things is when I started looking at the government is just there's a book called the Sovereign individual and in that book they talk about how.

43:28.98

Max Shank

These holidays.

44:04.14

mikebledsoe

Formation of government and how they were there to protect farmers from people who would come and take their shit and if they didn't hire them. They were gonna take their shit and if they did hire them. They're gonna take a percentage of their shit and so ah. Basically when you.

44:42.80

Max Shank

Basically you got guys with the swords and you got guys with the hose right till in the field then you got a sword guy and you got a hoe guy I'm more of a hoe guy I think.

44:46.40

mikebledsoe

Exactly and some and yeah, some so like in the beginning it was just like who who is ah who's got the most brute force and then over time they accumulated armor horses like a ah Knight in armor. Can take out like 20 people on foot. You know like the this is yeah this is this is it and so true that yeah, but but here's the thing is before the and but.

45:30.20

Max Shank

This is grounded in reality too unless one of those guys on foot happens to have a really nice bow and arrow and then that guy's fucked speaking of projectiles.

46:00.98

mikebledsoe

Before the invention of the rifle to become skilled to be able to afford the time and the money to be a great soldier. It was it was rare and so only a select few had been in the position to do so and so.

46:36.56

Max Shank

Even ants do this. They divide up the labor into soldiers and the workers back to the ants again.

46:39.00

mikebledsoe

You it. Yeah, yeah, and so the so the whole formation of the idea government has been basically the same it's it's identical to the Mob. You know you're.

47:13.84

Max Shank

It's identical to any group. It's about specialization Ideally right.

47:17.42

mikebledsoe

I Know if any group but like but any group that uses the threat of Force violence and coercion. So not every organization does that and so.

47:40.12

Max Shank

Um, is there any group where everybody does the same thing I think it's always about specialization.

47:48.78

mikebledsoe

It is about specialization but what I'm saying is what makes these organizations special is that they ah they rule by violence and a threat of violence coercion. These things that that's how they get people to comply.

48:25.26

Max Shank

Um, without nonviolently with like words instead of Swords basically.

48:27.50

mikebledsoe

With their rules. Well they use words. But if you disobey those words you will then meet you know.

48:46.80

Max Shank

Well, that's leverage right? That's that's really, um, how control works because if you if you ah if you don't follow the words and they just have to sword everybody to death. It's.. It's like not very good for anybody like now all the farmers are now all the farmers are.. It's kind of like a strike.. Basically I mean all these all these parallels within the symbolism of language I I have this idea that words have evolved basically the same as anything else.

49:25.76

mikebledsoe

It's not good for anybody. Yeah, so they got to use the there's ah.

50:01.92

Max Shank

In Nature longer sharper Claws Stronger Armor Camouflage Decoy Venom you know people fucking hurt each other with words all the time and only sometimes do they hurt.

50:25.80

mikebledsoe

And.

50:36.14

Max Shank

Ah, people with actual like sticks or weapons or something like that and sometimes they turn them on themselves right? We we fucking think Shitty things about ourselves we put ourselves through these I mean ah I guess I'm a fitness guy so we put ourselves through these like ball bursting workouts.

50:37.36

mikebledsoe

Yeah, they've gotten so good at can most of the time.

51:13.82

Max Shank

That are only harming us because we're just like so desperate. Um for some pie in the sky vision that we have I mean it's crazy how much language causes harm and self-harm. But anyway my point is like it's too inefficient. To go fucking hit everybody with the sword. It's way more efficient to just threaten the sword.

51:54.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the the the evolution has been that we use these words and so it was the words were simple and the sword was strong and then over time while the Swords gotten stronger. But the the words have become. People have gotten very clever lawyers are some of the most clever people on the planet ah politicians are basically they're just Lawyers. So These people are creating these words. Yeah, they create these words and you know, um, there are certain people.

52:40.40

Max Shank

Oh yeah.

52:52.18

Max Shank

Um, the word Warriors the word warriors.

53:10.96

mikebledsoe

Who are there's a very small population of people who are pretty much I think you and I fall in this category kind of like yeah you know those are just words and you want me to do this but I'm not going to and then you have the majority of the population that are like you're going to defy those words and.

53:44.18

Max Shank

Right.

53:46.84

mikebledsoe

And they completely freak out and they don't know what to do? They think that you're a bad person because you're ignoring these words. Um that somebody else put together and in order to try to control you so.

54:07.22

Max Shank

Well because otherwise like you are ruining their paradigm. You're destroying their sense of reality because they're like well I can't do that and I'm like actually there there are just consequences to everything you do you know that.

54:18.14

mikebledsoe

Totally destroying it.

54:35.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you can do anything you want. You can do a lot of things.

54:42.84

Max Shank

That's it you could do whatever there are consequences like if you tie a noose around your neck whack off in the closet. There's a much higher chance that you will die from hanging. But there's also a decent chance. You'll have an orgasm that's like None or so of the usual 1

55:20.40

mikebledsoe

There's otherwise to do that You hit me up on my private blog on on how to do that without choking yourself. But anyways.

55:22.40

Max Shank

So.

55:32.68

Max Shank

Fellas you hear that Mike is offering orgasm boosters free orgasm boosters. What kind of percentage can you offer increase 50% increase a 3 hold on.

55:40.64

mikebledsoe

Free orgasm boosters at least 50% now now I would say out. No no like 300 I mean yeah and yeah, with with just common common things you can pick up at the store.

56:07.68

Max Shank

Ah, 300% increase

56:19.18

Max Shank

Like cocaine. Ah.

56:19.76

mikebledsoe

Nothing you don't have to go see a drug dealer. But if you no, no, no like like over the counter things. But then um, yeah, over the counter and then um, you know if you want to get into the other I can guarantee like a None x but you know that's going to require some hard to get ahold of.

56:30.20

Max Shank

Over the counter.

56:55.60

Max Shank

Honestly I think ah I think I think this would be something that you you could probably do a one pager on this for our premium Inner Circle club.

56:57.88

mikebledsoe

Substances.

57:20.56

mikebledsoe

I Feel like this whole episode's going to be an inner Circle Club show. Ah you know this is the commercial This is this is actually it. This is this one. We're giving away for free. This is the one you get for free from now on the pre ship. This.

57:23.38

Max Shank

Like I would be interested in like a little that's all it is This is just for the this is this is it. We're gonna air this and and to be fair, we might be Fucked. We might be fucked because this might get us. Ah. Extradited or what's the excommunicated because of all the stuff we've said.

58:01.30

mikebledsoe

Well this is why I want everyone to go and get a ah podcasting 2.0 app on your phone instead of Spotify because Spotify itunes. They could just take us off anytime they want because some sjw employee gets pissed off.

58:24.12

Max Shank

Oh my God can you imagine? Holy God I Think that's I think the pendulum is swinging back I think people are craving uncensored Oh I Love it.

58:36.96

mikebledsoe

So ah. I think so I think so but not but not the employees of Apple and Spotify. They're gonna be the last ones you know and Twitter but I it will shake out it but we need. But.

59:00.98

Max Shank

Yeah, we'll we'll see how it all shakes out I mean ah Seasons change Seasons change.

59:19.58

mikebledsoe

Decentralization is what will force it and so using a podcasting 2.0 app is part of the decentralization movement. So I like ah podverse myself. So if you just go and download podverses. Our shit will never be taken off of that. But.

59:54.40

Max Shank

Bu ya.

59:59.20

mikebledsoe

But Spotify has taken down None I think over 70000 podcast episodes in the last year yeah based on the content. No now they remove certain content. They even pull down some of Rogan's content

01:00:12.90

Max Shank

Whoa Really I thought they were cool. Not cool. Bummer I Do know that by the way if there was ever something that. Ah.

01:00:35.00

mikebledsoe

But not all of it.

01:00:45.96

Max Shank

Was valuable but let's be able to say words other this is a core value. This is a core value here. Okay folks this is this. It's rooted in reality look. It's fine talkytackytacky ever Blah Blah Blah blah. But as soon as someone comes in with the stick.

01:00:53.40

mikebledsoe

Come on. Well this goes back to what you were just saying.

01:01:24.88

Max Shank

You got to like fucking face that reality and so if we can't resolve our differences with words. There's only None choice left and that's physical violence I think everybody should be versed in physical and verbal violence. Not necessarily so they can be violent toward other people. But so they can recognize it number None and defend it number None

01:02:07.86

mikebledsoe

Well I like that I like to Define violence as the person who initiates force so I would I would say ah be well versed in debate because ah or or diplomacy right? So like to me.

01:02:36.76

Max Shank

Right.

01:02:43.20

mikebledsoe

War is just an extension of Diplomacy You know we were like oh diplomacy failed I'm like no this is just we're still being diplomatic. It's just a very violent diplomacy and so the same thing with the words is you know we start off with disagreement. We're trying to work it out things escalate We can't.

01:03:06.64

Max Shank

Interesting.

01:03:17.88

Max Shank

Great.

01:03:20.60

mikebledsoe

Find agreement in the words because people aren't You're right, People are not trained in the ability to listen to understand and then communicate the wall just goes up and you've talked about rhetorical fallacies before the wall goes up and then now it just becomes a mudsling contest.

01:03:56.66

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:03:58.60

mikebledsoe

That that will result if that doesn't get resolved in some way it will result in physical force. This is why the None amendment's important because if only yeah and and because if only 1 group of people has access to violence.

01:04:13.74

Max Shank

The None and the second those are almost all that's important. But.

01:04:35.10

Max Shank

Um, oof because then you go.

01:04:37.56

mikebledsoe

Then then we're in big trouble which takes me back to the point I was making hang on the point I was making which is like the when I look at when I look at ah government. It's hard to tell the difference between government and the mom because they're basically saying give us. A certain amount of your profits give us a certain amount of your of your hard work and we'll make sure that your shop doesn't get burnt down. You know we'll make sure your kid doesn't get beat up in the alley and they're basically saying the mob is basically saying. Overtly, they're saying we'll protect you from other people. Yeah, covertly, they're saying pretty much if you don't pay us None of our thugs are going to come get you which is which is the same thing that happens with the Us government is they say.

01:05:50.12

Max Shank

It's called a protection ring. It's called a protection ring. It's been around for a long time.

01:06:09.36

Max Shank

Ah, right? yeah.

01:06:23.82

mikebledsoe

We're going to protect you from all these outside guys and we got police officers stationed in there. We're gonna protect you as long as you. But if you if you don't give us a None of your life then we're actually gonna come fuck you up and so that's the price of the club. Yeah tough shit. There's like no way out.

01:06:26.48

Max Shank

Move.

01:06:41.98

Max Shank

Right? That's the price of the club and if you don't like it well tough shit This is the only club in town. It's the only club in town. It's like ah you know there is a thing about power companies. You know when you have a single.

01:07:03.56

mikebledsoe

And so well hang on. So so so so when I started when I recognized this this extremely similar ah view of government and the mom.

01:07:16.98

Max Shank

Go go ahead? yeah.

01:07:38.98

mikebledsoe

And I just started looking at all these governments around the world as just mobs that are controlling different geographical locations by by which um are mainly dissected based on Language. So if the language changes that's where the border begins. When there's a different language because you can't control people anymore because they can't understand you and so ah government control happens and within the borders of language and then you basically just have you just have.

01:08:35.50

Max Shank

K case that's http://dciendocappassosenorexplicka me and espanio poque non anddo.

01:08:50.98

mikebledsoe

Exactly. So. So so when you start looking at the world as or the government as just mobsters that are ruling really large pieces of geography and they're all. You know, jocking for position. Everything makes a lot more sense like the Russia Ukraine thing makes way more sense if you just think about it as a couple of mobsters that are that are jocking for position and the United States has done a good job of like. United States has done an incredible job of being very strategic in the way that it's done things. It hasn't it hasn't necessarily ah won with brute force for instance with the Ukraine thing is if you think about mobsters are running Ukraine right now right. Because anyone who has a government is being There's a mob and so those mobsters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well the good the good mobsters of Ukraine are um, just you know the the us government is lending them. What None

01:10:50.92

Max Shank

No, but those are the good mobs. We like them. They're the good mobs.

01:11:18.20

mikebledsoe

Billion dollars a month or something like that that they're never going to be able to pay back all right? So if only someone would come tell me what to think? So so then ah.

01:11:22.22

Max Shank

Oh my God I Wish someone would tell me who the good guys are and who the bad guys are if only someone would come and let me know what to believe about this.

01:11:56.32

mikebledsoe

So then you got so the way I see it is the us government has done an incredible job at buying the people of Ukraine as slaves and so because they're under the control of the Ukraine mob the ukraine mob how are they going to pay back that money they can't pay back that money. So basically they're going to be in debt to the us and the Ukraine is the breadbasket of europe so they produce the the lion's share of the wheat and other things necessary for making a lot of food products and in Europe and so now. The way I see it is the us government. Everyone is everyone is going. You know? Yes for Ukraine I'm like I'm like the us government just enslaved the people of Ukraine and you cheered them along the whole way and is like yeah we are like you know and that is um, that's 0 comment on what. Putin's doing you know whatever you call him more criminal. Whatever the guy's not a good guy. The guy's not a good guy but but people miss that.

01:13:56.16

Max Shank

It's it's about relationships. It's about relations. It's about relationships. It's about relationships and it's about trying to understand what the connection is between those relationships and in order to really get it. You got to reduce the number of parties down, you got to put the words like none and None out of your mind and just say what is the relationship between these different entities or individuals and what you're saying about the us specifically is. They recognize the power of both words and swords because words, okay, nothing scales better than words because it requires no material transfer. It requires only a transfer of pressure waves basically on some level and and. Transfer of ah it's just it scales way easier than actual bullets and actual swords and and if you have both then then you're like King of the castle. Basically so we have crazy weapons and we also have.

01:15:38.90

mikebledsoe

Ah, especially with the internet and everything just repeats easily.

01:16:13.92

Max Shank

Ah, lawyers and bankers and politicians that use words the same way that we're using Bullets and missiles and shit like that and we have we have ah stuff that's happening behind closed doors I mean Okay, let's talk about language again just for a second because.

01:16:25.28

mikebledsoe

Totally.

01:16:50.54

Max Shank

Want to talk about the word conspiracy conspiracy happening all the time people are meeting in secret to discuss plans all the time we would have to be totally naive if we don't think that's going on basically everywhere like every every group is meeting in secret.

01:17:24.88

mikebledsoe

The Cia is ah is a series of conspiracies.

01:17:29.90

Max Shank

We meet in secret we meet? yeah and of course they can't tell everybody everything I mean how fucking schizophrenic do you have to be your level 1 clearance your level 10 clearance I'm a level 10 cia wizard. So I know like 90% of the secrets but only 10% of this I mean it's.

01:17:42.24

mikebledsoe

So it's a conspiracy. Yeah.

01:18:09.70

Max Shank

It's Insane. So ah, kind of tying it back to how we use language and use ideas bringing it back to reality Once again, just doing something with material objects that exist somewhat. Independently of Language. You know how you interact with a tree or the ground of course you have the word tree and ground in your mind but your movement and your creative expression through physical materials. Even if you don't think you have a knack for it. It's very grounding experience.

01:19:37.32

mikebledsoe

Back to physical materials. Yeah, well they? um well what's interesting is my friend Jesse Elder he he's been studying the law extensively the last couple years and um.

01:19:42.80

Max Shank

Um, that that's what I tried to bring us on back because.

01:20:17.64

mikebledsoe

Basically looking at like the foundation of law you know, not you know what are all these little laws that are floating around that are getting passed all the time and changing. But you know yeah, but like what is the the sole basis and we go back in history. What is law.

01:20:33.00

Max Shank

To contract. It's It's just a contract that's it.

01:20:52.36

mikebledsoe

You know how does it operate so he did that and if you can figure out the fundamental principles of how these things work a lot of things get real simple so he did that and one one of the it's what.

01:21:11.92

Max Shank

It's conditional phrases right? I mean I'm not trying to diminish but isn't it like it's conditional. Phrases. It's consequences like the code of Hamurabi was a system of laws but they are very simple if you steal. A woman then you get your eye plucked out and you have to marry her some shit like that. Basically and if you're talking about arbitration which is a little different than law. Basically you are just dealing with an arbitrur like a judge who is deciding.

01:21:45.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:22:20.32

Max Shank

Who's right when they present like the clay tablets or something like can you imagine being. Ah, you know an arbiter back then but that's what they would do so that guy gets to decide but you have it's just enforcing contracts I think and every every relationship you have.

01:22:22.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:22:43.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, that's what it comes down to.

01:22:59.30

Max Shank

Because a contract is oh gosh. It's ah it's a projected relationship. How about that using the words that we've been thinking about so a contract is a a relationship projection or a relative projection between one or more.

01:23:17.86

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:23:31.28

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you're gonna do these things I'm gonna do these things if we don't follow through then it breaks down. There's the consequences.

01:23:39.44

Max Shank

Entities yeah, and it works with yourself too. It works with yourself too. You make a you make a to do list. Maybe you sign at the bottom so I'm going to do this by the end of today you made a contract with yourself. You break the contract but you're also the judge here and you go like what happened. You know should I should I go to jail should I be full of shame or something like that should I punish myself. Do I get 50 lashes? Yeah, um, but I think we do that.

01:24:15.46

mikebledsoe

Should I punish myself emotional jail ah, ah so so jet so Jesse started digging digging into like the principles of law. And None of the results that I've seen in his life is. He's become extremely analog. Ah he is like he he sees the matrix I mean when you look at I mean the law is the matrix and so ah, everything that.

01:24:55.98

Max Shank

Totally. Ah.

01:25:18.14

Max Shank

It's a matrix.

01:25:20.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's a matrix I would I would say it's probably like based one of the base layers of the matrix and then um like the media sits on top of that. But um, he he's gone extremely analog like he's living. He's got twenty acres he's living out on it. He doesn't deal with crypto he. Ah, you know tries that work primarily in gold and silver and like getting he's getting very analog. He's using technology like he's installing a solar farm. He's doing. He's doing some things to harness technology but he's become very analog and.

01:26:28.14

Max Shank

Right.

01:26:37.76

mikebledsoe

What is valuable and so and what he values is analog and so in a world where right now so much of the value is digital and which is which is somewhat of a physical manifestation of something conceptual and so.

01:26:49.52

Max Shank

So true.

01:27:14.22

mikebledsoe

Because we're talking about Energy. Ah Bitcoin is just energy and because it requires energy from the sun whether it come in the form of solar oil. Whatever it is ah it it comes in the form of energy that's being exchanged so there is a physical component to it. But. Which is actually way more tangible than say the Us dollar which has ah which is primarily ruled by what whatever somebody thinks or a group of people think instead of being ruled by actual physical world laws and.

01:28:15.72

Max Shank

Um, that well money is its own like ah shared. It's actually a conspiracy so money is a human conspiracy just like language.

01:28:33.40

mikebledsoe

It's yeah well fiat currency would be yeah, say more.

01:28:53.50

Max Shank

That's that's it money is a conspiracy just like language I mean the fact that.

01:28:55.70

mikebledsoe

Some people some people understand I mean you're right? because there are very. There's a there is a handful of select people who make decisions in secret about the money supply.

01:29:23.52

Max Shank

Oh I mean just like it's not ah like a like okay so steak is not a human conspiracy like a dog still understands. What steak is it might know it by a different name like maybe steak for a dog is like.

01:29:49.14

mikebledsoe

Right.

01:29:58.00

Max Shank

Wolf Af or something like that I don't I don't know exactly what it's like for a dog but like money is and language are purely human conspiracies like we made all this stuff up because it's useful so they're useful lies. Essentially words are useful symbols so that we can.

01:30:09.82

mikebledsoe

I'll go ask my buddies dog.

01:30:35.78

Max Shank

Project these ideas ah into ah interchangeable parts Basically and that's what we're looking for with money is it's the ultimate interchangeable part because it's like ah an I O you that everybody agrees on it's a. Ah, accepted anywhere right? So it's money's like God It's if you believe in it it it is ah infinite Power. It's total potential and it's such a useful tool. There's no I can't.

01:31:31.92

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:31:49.52

Max Shank

It's so difficult for me to envision a society where we didn't have a way to exchange goods modularly. You know people talk about the fungibility or non-fungibility of token. Sometimes the fact that a dollar is a dollar is a dollar is a dollar is a dollar and I mean it did used to be backed by gold which was cool but let's not be too wistful over the glory days. But in any case. The fact that we have it and that we can change it and move it so quickly means that I can you know ah work under a bridge given hand jobs send it back to my scientist grandpa in Hungary and he can use that money. To build a nuclear fusion reactor or something like that right? That's that's incredible that you don't have to but based on my hungarian physicist ah grandfather I was thinking of him every time I gave a hand job under the bridge.

01:33:40.52

mikebledsoe

That's based on a true story folks.

01:34:04.94

Max Shank

I was just thinking this is going to be unlimited energy for everybody I'm not going to let you down pop pop anyway, ah, but but that's that's what I mean is like you you can turn hand jobs into cold fusion potentially and that is why money is cool. Ah, so we wouldn't have these computers and microphones the ubiquity of the cell phone like all this stuff was done because we were able to transfer this um potential of human action and it just it kind of reminds me of this funky idea I had. When I was none learning about like the coins and the cryptos and things like that and I thought it'd be cool to have something called like a handycoin that was ah just based off of the value that a person placed on like 1 hour of labor.

01:35:50.38

mikebledsoe

I Thought you were gonna say hand jobs but handicoin and a yeah.

01:35:59.34

Max Shank

No, not not not hand that would be even better. None coin equals one hj full stop. That's actually a better idea now that I think about anyway, but the whole idea was like you know you can put a posting on Craigslist or you can. Ah, go out to home depot and you can find like ah, a laborer who will do sometimes skilled sometimes unskilled. No no, no, no, but but but that's what that would be for is just for unskilled labor. Every hour is equal and so.

01:36:43.94

mikebledsoe

Um, are you are you saying that every hour is equal in value. No no okay.

01:37:05.52

mikebledsoe

Ah, so you create a caste system.

01:37:12.36

Max Shank

The value of that coin the value of that coin would be related to what someone is willing to do for an hour like 1 hour of unskilled labor. Ah, but at least it's tied to like.

01:37:37.54

mikebledsoe

Isn't that how just capitalism works.

01:37:50.30

Max Shank

The floor of ah one of of labor per hour right? It's like it's like it sets the floor which it is a value. Yeah, but it's so it's different. It's only correlated to ah.

01:37:51.24

mikebledsoe

So there's a minimum.

01:38:02.88

mikebledsoe

Sounds like a minimum wage.

01:38:23.40

Max Shank

Like someone actually doing real work I don't know like I said it's not a night. It's not an idea that I've taken over the finish line. Ah, but it's ah this idea that it needs to be tied to something and right now it's tied to our belief and that works.

01:38:32.00

mikebledsoe

I'm not sure I'm following.

01:39:02.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah I I think the problem that people have with money right now is that? Ah, there are a handful of people who are controlling how it flows so ah, not necessarily.

01:39:03.26

Max Shank

Weirdly enough it. It's not great, but it's okay like if.

01:39:29.48

Max Shank

Has that always been the case.

01:39:39.64

mikebledsoe

Not not to this degree I would say that. Um, so for instance when when the dollar is tied to gold money. Well I'm I'm talking about primarily money so like um so on 1 hand you have.

01:39:52.24

Max Shank

Are we talking about money or wealth or both and.

01:40:16.00

Max Shank

Um, like not.

01:40:17.52

mikebledsoe

And organization that decides. Ah how much the interest rates are going to be like what's what's the debt going to be worth and then you and then they also control the amount of money that's in the system. So those are like really big picture things. So so of when you're.

01:40:49.44

Max Shank

Oh yeah, big time.

01:40:56.00

mikebledsoe

When you're working with gold which you know all governments have inflated there even when it was gold. They did things like shave off the edges and you know there's ah until people figured it out and they lost faith in it. Yeah, they have so you can't fake it and so then um, so.

01:41:14.14

Max Shank

That's why those coins have ridges right? That's why they put the ridges on the coins. Ah.

01:41:31.34

mikebledsoe

The money supply and then the cost of debt is 2 major things that are that are employed big picture and then you have taxes so that I think the tax code is 176000 pages something like that. Ah, it might be a little bit maybe 76 maybe oh there. There's a.

01:41:56.40

Max Shank

I think maybe only 76 but but but but None like you that should be simple.

01:42:09.52

mikebledsoe

There's a ton of there's all, there's but there's basically all these rule the whole point in the tax code is to incentivize people under a certain type of behavior and it's it's.

01:42:32.34

Max Shank

And hide and hide what's actually happening and create as much of a smokescreen as possible for what's actually going on.

01:42:43.48

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's they they want to they want to confuse like the majority of people need to be confused about what's going on because if the majority of people knew exactly what was going on there'd be riots in the streets. But the.

01:43:07.80

Max Shank

We would sell a lot more guillotines if that were the case Guillotine sales. That's that's what I'm actually getting into right now you know pendulums and government swing I think we're like perfect time to invest in guillot in Guillotines I think ah.

01:43:28.34

mikebledsoe

Well, how let's look at the tax code I got to do this search on the tax code.

01:43:44.46

Max Shank

You know you can sell your ultimate Orgasm formula and then I'm going to sell guillotines for the coming revolutions.

01:43:53.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, we got figure I got to figure out how this tax code thing. Um all right. There's the myth of the 70000 page federal tax code.

01:44:10.78

Max Shank

It's really long.

01:44:19.60

Max Shank

It has to do with um like references to it because there are amendments to the tax code and there are cases that have modified how it's interpreted.

01:44:38.52

mikebledsoe

So the tax code has nearly tripled is it ah the tax code has nearly tripled and linked over the last thirty years um 70000 is not true. The tax code was only 20 so so it's it's. It's like triple of the None pages. So I think it's anyways thirty years ago is 2600? Oh no, none the tax code was only about 20. It's so funny and this blog says it's only None pages long. Um, yeah, but the point so.

01:45:47.60

Max Shank

Ah, it shouldn't even be 2600 words long fuckers. Let alone pages.

01:45:50.40

mikebledsoe

So um, yeah, so the so the so you've got a small group of people controlling the supply of the money you got a small group of people controlling the ah cost of the debt and then you have a small I think between. Ah, the senate the congress and all the the the the top government I think is around None and something like None something people so None something people are controlling 350000000 people.

01:46:55.92

Max Shank

It's leverage.

01:47:07.30

mikebledsoe

With a 2600 page tax code that incentivizes certain types of purchases disincentivizes other types of purchases. Um it ah it does it does really incentivize investing in real estate which is interesting because you can.

01:47:21.92

Max Shank

Right.

01:47:35.14

Max Shank

Well let's also look at this because it's not ah like those politicians are only like fabricating these ideas in their own mind. They're having people come in and say like hey we're this ah business that does one ah 0 every month.

01:48:07.94

mikebledsoe

These politicians don't write these laws. These laws are being brought to them.

01:48:14.22

Max Shank

And and and right and like hey Joe blow politician um, you know I was thinking. Ah you know you could you could really help us out. Ah, but you know I don't want you to work too hard. So I I went I went ahead and prepared the law for you.

01:48:49.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, which the law the which the law is like 10000 pages long. There's no way who the fuck reads those things. No one reads that shit.

01:48:52.82

Max Shank

I went ahead and had my lawyers prepare this law for you and I I left this spot at the it's about 10000 pages I sent a copy to all your colleagues already I put a place here for you to sign your name at the bottom and I think it's a really really good idea for you to do this.

01:49:27.48

mikebledsoe

And and we'll we'll pay your son like $10000000 a year for advisory.

01:49:32.46

Max Shank

And because like power. Oh dude that guy is that guy is fucking set but you know Hidden hidden in that fucking quagmire of verbal violence in that fucking law that's been written is. How um competition and free market is prevented right? It's not like going to be awesome for everybody. Ah, it's gone too far but it's just because we have set up the rules of the game.

01:50:24.98

mikebledsoe

Yep.

01:50:46.98

Max Shank

To allow for too much of ah human error. Basically.

01:50:49.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and so this is where um so we have to believe in the money I'm talking about belief which means you got to trust it right? And so we're at a in my lifetime we're at a record breaking low of trust in.

01:51:10.16

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:51:28.32

mikebledsoe

Government or the record breaking low and trust in media I think that in since the emergence of crypto there has been a trickling of people in droves that don't trust the money that that trust ah 1 of the things that web 3

01:51:59.64

Max Shank

A.

01:52:07.38

mikebledsoe

Really ah has brought about is it requires less trust because you can't fuck with it like it doesn't matter how much somebody wants to change something. It's not humanly possible to change some of these rules and how these crypto.

01:52:46.54

Max Shank

Question for you is web 3 basically trying to use blockchain technology to store web data and provide server. Ah for websites.

01:52:47.00

mikebledsoe

Cryptos work. Yeah.

01:53:13.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's that's that's one that's so it's a ledger well blockchain is just a really advanced ledger system that's automatically updated in decentralized web 3 in blockchain everyone in the same.

01:53:23.66

Max Shank

It's like decentralized web servers.

01:53:35.48

Max Shank

No, but web 3 I'm asking. Okay, I'm okay.

01:53:51.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the the way I understand it. It's it's just web 3 is kind of you say blockchain and people get a little confused and go web 3 and they go oh like you know web one was we can send information from computer to computer web two was we have html and everything's visually we have visual graphics and. And we can. There's clickable things and and then social media and then Web 3 is blockchain mother of all demos.

01:54:39.84

Max Shank

You should see the mother look up the mother of all demos sometime it shows what it's fucking great I think it was in the 60 s we were able to do like ah word documents and video chat and all kinds of shit in like the 60 s.

01:55:14.74

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:55:19.48

Max Shank

Called the mother of all demos um wild what was capable way back then and then that wasn't ubiquitous for people that wasn't common for people until forty years later something like that not nuts.

01:55:41.10

mikebledsoe

Right? Yeah, there's that's it's fascinating. Um.

01:55:54.74

Max Shank

So that's the leverage though is how fast we can communicate a message a lot of ah censorship speaking of like the None amendment kind of.

01:56:06.90

mikebledsoe

Well, there's also you not just how fast can you communicate a message but can it actually get through the noise. How loud how loud is your message and how well received is it because there's there's a there's a level of skill that's involved in being heard.

01:56:21.14

Max Shank

Yeah, well and. Absolutely no question I mean I think that's why stand-up comedy is one of those places where the rubber meets the road on free speech a little bit because if you're allowed to say anything as long as it's a joke. Then you can still at least get that message into people's minds without having ah it be controlled and that's ultimately what drives a population if if suddenly it was the law like so that's that's what's kind of interesting. You know I don't think it's good to have. Like a lot of power in the hands of a few people. It's back to leverage same thing as a hammer right? It's physical leverage in different ways. Um, but if they suddenly made it like the law to kill None puppy every week like let's just say that became the law people would not do that.

01:58:27.84

mikebledsoe

Well, it's got to be Ah, it's got to be done in small bits I mean all right? So this may actually happen. Yeah this this may actually happen right? So they So there's the media's put out the yeah, the media has put out some notices that.

01:58:29.80

Max Shank

Because the collective consciousness of whether that's okay or not.

01:58:44.64

Max Shank

You're like talking Boiling Boiling Frog right? Yeah yeah, the puppy killing oh shit, you know what you're right? The puppy flew.

01:59:07.84

mikebledsoe

You know some people are getting getting. Ah yeah, they're getting Well they're getting coronavirus they're It's like oh statistically we find that people who are around dogs more get coronavirus. Whatever.

01:59:17.52

Max Shank

Copy flu.

01:59:27.40

Max Shank

Oh God Oh don't don't even put this out. It's so easily could happen. You could get people to kill puppies as long as you said puppies increased the no fucking way. Wow.

01:59:35.98

mikebledsoe

So so here's the thing there are cities in China where they've gone in and killed all the dogs. Yeah, and so it's already happened and so um, which.

02:00:04.80

Max Shank

Heavy heavy.

02:00:12.90

mikebledsoe

When we think about that happening in China we go. Yeah that's totally believable because they're under some weird you know they're they're under some like heavy mind control. But I think that people I think americans give themselves way too much credit on how ah how little. They they think they they're being exposed and are subject to way less propaganda I would say it's less propagandized in the United States like we're not as susceptible because there's so much competing information where there's not as much competition for information there. But the propaganda is real.

02:01:04.92

Max Shank

Overt. It's just yeah, ah.

02:01:26.32

mikebledsoe

And so all you gotta do? It's been proven in the last two years all you gotta do is make people think that they're gonna die if they don't do this thing and they'll fucking. Do it. They'll strap 3 masks on they'll put an experimental vaccine in their body and they'll they'll ah make statements like.

02:01:56.76

Max Shank

Oh god we just got flagged. That's us we're done. He's in Texas go get him I was never here. Ah.

02:02:01.54

mikebledsoe

We should throw people. We're done off Spotify. Ah I'm in Texas I'm in Texas good luck. So yeah, um.

02:02:34.34

Max Shank

Oh my gosh. So it's all it really is it all comes down to force right? It all comes down to how much of an impact you can make with words or with stuff it all comes and it's leverage.

02:02:52.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, because with the words you can still like if if ah, a small group of people can convince the large group of people that I'm a bad guy. They don't even have to get their hands dirty and so they use mind control to create violence.

02:03:21.18

Max Shank

Totally, you're separated from it.

02:03:32.34

mikebledsoe

And that's another thing we've witnessed big time in the last two years is they don't have to fucking create violence. They'll all they got to do is leverage some media to get people really hot and bothered then put.

02:03:50.38

Max Shank

Nobody wants to get their hands dirty.

02:04:08.20

mikebledsoe

Certain Spokes holes out there to to tell people how they should think what they should think and next thing you know things are burning. Yeah.

02:04:18.56

Max Shank

Hurt people hurt people right? hurt people hurt people. Ah and the more removed you are from the impact the easier it is like imagine if ah. Kind of like in game of thrones. The one who passes the sentence or the one who passes the sentence should carry it out like if you're gonna sentence a guide to death. Yeah, that was a stark thing. Yeah, well, it's cause it's like really warm weather and there's.

02:05:02.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah I mean that that was ah and ah that was a stark thing as the the northerners believed in that but you know you go to the South a bunch of soft pussies.

02:05:32.40

Max Shank

Ah titties and asses everywhere on the beach like I I don't blame them I get it like I I wouldn't be too like I wouldn't be too Stern with duty if the beach was like full of naked chicks and coconuts like what are we fighting for.

02:05:34.12

mikebledsoe

Teddy's everywhere I I.

02:06:07.20

Max Shank

There's food and titties everywhere. Ah but I think that idea of if you're going to be the one who passes the sentence you should carry it out the corollary or the inverse of that is if you can pass judgment.

02:06:06.20

mikebledsoe

Ah, ah.

02:06:44.66

Max Shank

And be totally removed from the action if you can tell a guy to tell another guy to tell another guy to tell another guy to take a drone to this other guy so that guy can drone this fucking stranger to him like he doesn't know who it is. He doesn't Care. You're not going to even feel that. But if imagine if you had to personally choke every person that you wanted to kill that would be a really different type of connection.

02:07:27.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, it's it's well it's this disconnection from responsibility on both ends, you've got the guy passing the sentence who's disconnected from the reality of what it takes to do that and then the person who's executing can just say.

02:07:45.32

Max Shank

Totally.

02:08:03.82

mikebledsoe

You know I'm just following orders but at the end of the day who but eat.

02:08:09.54

Max Shank

Ah, oh God there's a phrase I fuss just following all us now that's not fair. That's not fair that is not a cool thing to do what I just did because it's not like the germans.

02:08:29.74

mikebledsoe

A.

02:08:38.36

Max Shank

Are the only people who have done any horrible shit that is so unfair of me. The only reason that we use them as the poster boy. The only reason we use them as the poster boy is they just happen to target the group who is best at marketing and that's why that story is the most popular.

02:08:48.26

mikebledsoe

Oh I'll I'll say this.

02:09:12.80

mikebledsoe

Well now now you're now you're gonna now you're really stepping in it.

02:09:16.64

Max Shank

Of all the evil stories. Oh what Jews are bad at marketing mike.

02:09:33.10

mikebledsoe

Um, you're right? Um, yeah, there there's there's there's.

02:09:37.26

Max Shank

So some of my best friends in the world are Jews they're usually very smart. They're usually financially sound. They're usually pretty good at business I mean I hate to generalize.

02:09:52.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's there's plenty of groups of people. Yeah, there's plenty of groups of people that have been exterminated and and more more mass that we're not nearly as good at marketing you right? Um, and but yeah, that's that's well.

02:10:13.32

Max Shank

Totally.

02:10:25.92

mikebledsoe

We have We have police officers and just ah, you know make it fair. We have police officers that are doing no knock warrants but are serving no knock warrants ah busting people for drugs that are not hurting anybody and and it harmed a fucking soul and.

02:10:55.82

Max Shank

Oh god.

02:11:04.62

mikebledsoe

There are really egregious things happening I mean your domain your your where you live is a sacred place. It is yeah 1 time out your house. But.

02:11:09.68

Max Shank

Totally.

02:11:23.50

Max Shank

I Live in fantasy Land I live in Fanta No No I mean literally like my house and my sense of the world is basically fantasy land because all this horrible Shit. We're talking about I Actually don't have to see most of it but there are slaves. In the world there. There are horrible things. There are that that's wild. How much did it cost I'm just kidding I'm just kidding.

02:12:00.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah I've seen I've seen I've seen Slavery Firsthand I I was shocked. Yeah oh I I What the slaves. Um.

02:12:35.26

Max Shank

I assume you would have gotten 1 Okay.

02:12:39.18

mikebledsoe

Now we we ended up being a rescue.

02:12:51.20

Max Shank

You mean I just thought of like you know you adopt a dog you like rescue a dog versus you buy 1 at the breeder. That's what I thought you went for some.

02:13:04.00

mikebledsoe

No, no, no, no, we we were. We were coming up I was in the navy we were coming up on what looked like a ship in distress and it was full of slaves being traded from Somalia to Yemen and so ah so that shit's that shit's.

02:13:26.00

Max Shank

Good God See That's what I'm talking about that stuff's happening all the time. Yeah, we're divorced from that reality and in some ways that's good because how much shit can you really pay attention to should I Really? okay.

02:13:41.22

mikebledsoe

Shit's happening all time. It's real. We just we just happen to come across them. Yeah.

02:14:05.86

Max Shank

Like I'm I'm not nice or bad I'm just whatever I am basically but should I really concern myself with with what's going on in like the Ivory coast right now or something like that when I could have like I mean.

02:14:28.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

02:14:40.66

Max Shank

I got None of room to improve my own life. The last thing I need to do is put my attention somewhere where I can't have any impact at all. That's true for so many of us.

02:14:41.76

mikebledsoe

Well.

02:14:56.62

mikebledsoe

But I agree with the the problem is is we people care so much about something that's happened in Ukraine but don't care about what's happening in other countries that well I would say in other countries and so what people aren't realizing is like look if you want to have like.

02:15:17.60

Max Shank

Um, in their own life in their own life. Oh yeah.

02:15:36.94

mikebledsoe

I've taken this on I like look I I do believe I I want to be exposed I want to be exposed to the reality of death I want to be exposed to the reality of the most atrocious things that are happening I want to know that those things are happening and so because I I think it's good I think it's good to. To be aware that these things are happening where people get in trouble is they aren't able to look at everything equally they're not able to look out and go oh there's these atrocities over here and there's atrocities over here. They're looking at the atrocities in Ukraine. They're not looking at the atrocities in and.

02:16:15.54

Max Shank

A.

02:16:50.38

mikebledsoe

In some places in Africa or the Middle East where we're bombing the shit out of people and and so if you're only focused on 1 atrocity and you're not willing to look at another.

02:16:54.80

Max Shank

Um, yes, totally.

02:17:18.15

mikebledsoe

You're not actually having an expanded view of reality you're being controlled by the media.

02:17:22.83

Max Shank

And you can't prioritize and you can't prioritize. It comes back to matter because if you think like whatever they say matters today matters most to you then you're just going to be spinning your wheels forever. You're like. Oh my god I'm just feeling so banged up about this thing. Oh this new thing I'm sad about and trannie's this and can we play sports and are you black like all this kind of stuff. It's like who gives a fuck like this is this this is the mind of a schizophrenic person. But if you're not connected.

02:18:17.76

mikebledsoe

Yeah, we have global schizophrenia.

02:18:28.58

Max Shank

Yeah, but how could you evaluate with how could you evaluate what matters most to you in any given moment if you're being fed this idea and buying it hook line and sinker that this new thing you just heard of suddenly matters the most and when you realize how many things you could care about you. I think you'll eventually come back to what can I do right now within my own life and then as far as like policy is concerned. There's only 2 things that matter and that's Authority who's in charge and jurisdiction when are they in charge.

02:19:40.72

mikebledsoe

Neither one of those things seem to be matter to me neither one of those things seem to be matter to me.

02:19:42.25

Max Shank

And that's it. What's that. But for policy that that's the only thing that does matter that's correct that is correct. That's correct hey look.

02:19:56.72

mikebledsoe

But it's not matter. It's just words.

02:20:20.38

Max Shank

Words can matter and words matter to you and they do matter to me but you can choose.

02:20:30.86

mikebledsoe

But they don't matter as much as matter I just want to get that point across. Yeah, they're just 1 step from matter I mean words are just metaphor for matter. So.

02:20:39.24

Max Shank

Certainly not how could they so anyway back Okay, fuck it I I go the other way I say words matter a lot I say words will fucking transform words are the pattern.

02:21:03.14

mikebledsoe

I.

02:21:18.94

Max Shank

That is going to change your matter. Okay, so when you when you well look. Let's take black lives matter for a example and I got something to say about this there. It is I said everything I can say.

02:21:19.18

mikebledsoe

I Agree it's great at manipulating matter.

02:21:36.26

mikebledsoe

Oh that's good 1

02:21:57.20

Max Shank

Ah, no, no, but like all kidding aside this is this is like a ah weird racist idea like the only thing we should all want is for everybody to be treated Well man woman gay straight black white. Not purple people fuck those people but any anyone like normal colored we should treat the same so it it kind of like look I don't want to shit on anyone's cupcake either? Okay, but do we have like a national women's women's day or something like that. We we have these weird celebrations We have.

02:22:46.94

mikebledsoe

Um, I think you do.

02:23:04.90

Max Shank

Pride month and that's ah, that's a weird one like I I think being gay is really awesome.

02:23:12.98

mikebledsoe

Elon Elon Musk made a really good ah a controversial tweet. Basically he's pointing out how all these companies just all the sudden are are fucking leveraging and this this idea they don't give him a fuck.

02:23:31.40

Max Shank

Um, Oh yeah, well your I your identity is getting hijacked and ah worst off I mean look I think from my own direct Experience. Nothing has fucked me up as bad as my own pride. So. So so so it's like basically like volunteering to ruin someone's life for a whole month. It's like hey you know that deadly sin that we're all desperately trying to avoid. We think? ah. You would enjoy a whole month straight of it. No homosexuality is awesome. It looks really fun. In fact, I've never seen anyone who looked like they were having a better time than a couple of gay guys at a gay party right? Ah, that's that's.

02:24:51.30

mikebledsoe

He's talking about pride folks not homosexuality.

02:25:13.28

mikebledsoe

I agree I I'm I'm jealous I'm jealous.

02:25:24.40

Max Shank

Fully and that's fully uninhibited and I think ah you know the old school gays and trannies. They would not want to control language about what's going on like I I like the the like old school trannies. From like the 70 s and eighty s who were like really buff black dudes and who were like god damn I look fine and address and but but that's the old school type what I'm saying is these these bitches were wise you know and they were tough and if someone.

02:26:07.82

mikebledsoe

They're still around I've been I've been to the club. Yeah.

02:26:32.12

Max Shank

Was like you're not a real woman. They would be like suck my dick and then they would be like you know, brassy and tough and they would risk their lives to go dance in like ah a tranny Speakeay and I I respect that but this whole like you gotta. You got to call me this or you got to call me that or I'm going to call dad and they're going to hit you with a stick. It's like that sucks we need. We need these old school trannies to talk some sense into them about free speech because there's no reason that that should be but there's no reason that there.

02:27:31.94

mikebledsoe

Now now we're getting kicked off Spotify. Ah.

02:27:47.34

Max Shank

Okay, like those people also look fun like I think that's great, but this whole idea that we should treat any person different because of how they want to like mutilate their body or enhance it like I mean fake fake boobs Totally fine cut your dick off not fine I think they're both fine.

02:28:10.22

mikebledsoe

Well well.

02:28:22.56

mikebledsoe

I I think.

02:28:26.82

Max Shank

Personally, but I think any time you want to control the language of other people you have a mental disorder. Basically.

02:28:39.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and and you're it is someone trying to force other people to participate in their identity and that is that's insane like was it a.

02:28:59.20

Max Shank

Right? That's like forcing someone to come to your party hey hey I'm throwing a party Friday I don't want to go. You're coming.

02:29:18.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you're racist if you don't come and I'm gonna call your boss and they're gonna fire you.

02:29:32.68

Max Shank

Ah, ah oh God pride go before a fall pride Pride's pride is not something that you really want to like emphasize in your life I think being open being able to express yourself.

02:29:36.64

mikebledsoe

It's like no I was well from time for myself.

02:29:46.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

02:30:10.18

Max Shank

Very good. It's just you know these words do influence our matter quite a lot. So this idea. Ah this idea that we yeah okay ah I don't know like I'm I'm so skeptical about joining groups. Anyway.

02:30:18.34

mikebledsoe

Bring here, bring it back up mic up. It keeps falling.

02:30:46.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

02:30:48.82

Max Shank

As you know, but like you lose you lose so much of ah that groundedness and reality when you're like I'm on team ah Republican or I'm on Team Trans or I'm on team Black I mean I think if I could be on team black that would be pretty cool though. In in my life. Black people were much cooler better at dancing I feel like I would get a lot of street cred if I was on team black actually as as a white guy but I don't think people should be ah I don't know forced to whatever other people's ah.

02:31:39.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:31:59.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah I mean I think we you and I both just believe people should leave each other alone and some people are just nosy and and controlling. Yeah.

02:32:04.18

Max Shank

Lives.

02:32:16.30

Max Shank

Um, what a novel concept what a novel concept. So what are we trying to do here mike has this been our None secret episode is that what ah has gone on here.

02:32:35.00

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, so this is ah you just got a taste of what happens during most pre-shows. Ah, although we went a little.

02:32:59.70

Max Shank

Max and Mike Raw

02:33:03.86

mikebledsoe

Um, that's definitely a porno. Um well.

02:33:15.44

Max Shank

Ah, at least we already have 1 filmed hey oh.

02:33:25.62

mikebledsoe

Ah, so um, say yeah, we're playing around with the idea. Maybe we'll do ah we tend to talk about 20 minutes we tend to talk about for about 20 minutes before we do shows and yeah ill I'll gonna talk to my tech team and see what.

02:33:41.88

Max Shank

We'll do a little pre-show.

02:34:03.62

mikebledsoe

And marketing teams see what they think cause I can't do anything would like some feedback from their audience. What I'm thinking right? now is maybe a pay what you want ah membership to get yeah, come get in the club hear The pre-show get some of the raw conversations that ah.

02:34:09.62

Max Shank

Let's get some feedback from the audience though too Huh I Want to. I Like it to join the club.

02:34:38.52

Max Shank

Ah.

02:34:40.46

mikebledsoe

Come about and also witness the how we come up with the idea of what we're gonna do for the show that day So there's there's a lot. There's so many things that we discussed before the show starts that I wish was recorded that doesn't necessarily fall in line with the rest of the show but is still extremely valuable.

02:34:50.20

Max Shank

Um, I mean we could even do like a. Yeah, yeah, it'd be cool to give people a chance to participate too like maybe they could ah it depends like we could. Ah. Plug them into the call we could do like a live tweeting thing for them or like a little. Oh. No I mean we can just like um, get them involved. Ah.

02:35:36.12

mikebledsoe

I Don't think we can live stream out of our current system.

02:35:57.38

mikebledsoe

How would you like to be involved. That's it showing the name. Maybe we could do it. We could do it like a telegram group. We could do I don't fucking know and I say I'm gonna talk to my tech my tech and marketing team are good to talk to because I could tell them what we and then they.

02:36:06.68

Max Shank

Yeah, how would you like to be involved That's ah that's a good question like what would you like us to cover. Yeah I like these ah more human interactions.

02:36:36.32

mikebledsoe

Um, like hey there's what we're thinking about doing and they'll come back and say oh you should you could set it up like this this and this these guys look I'm 40 these guys are in their 30 s early 30 s they.

02:36:40.28

Max Shank

Yeah.

02:36:51.24

Max Shank

Age card look at that folks. He's trying to get clout by look how old I am look how fucking old I am what a thing to brag about you son of a bitch.

02:37:07.26

mikebledsoe

Oh humble brag Humble brack. No, but the the ah the all these guy I now I don't know that's that's not what I'm saying at all is I don't keep up with the shit that's popular right now I don't know what technology is out there.

02:37:24.30

Max Shank

I'm so old that I got smarter than you.

02:37:35.80

Max Shank

Um, that's.

02:37:45.48

mikebledsoe

Um, like I want to do this and then they tell me a dozen ways to do it some of which I are like Wow you can do that now. So that's why it's help talk to them now.

02:37:58.34

Max Shank

Yeah, let's talk about widgets next time, Let's talk about our favorite ah tech stuff.

02:38:11.60

mikebledsoe

We never. We never talk about the thing in the next show that we think we might talk about in the previous show I think so all right? we end it there give us your feedback if you want to reach me directly just hit me up on Instagram Mike Underscore Bloodso and now.

02:38:23.12

Max Shank

I Think we're going to talk about things on the next show it' going to happen.

02:38:50.70

mikebledsoe

And then you want them to do any hoops you want people to jump through max.

02:38:56.42

Max Shank

Ah, well thanks for tuning in my name is max shank. You can find me at http://maxshank.com and I hope you have a lovely rest of your day.

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May 30, 2022

00:00.00

Max Shank

Welcome back everybody to Monday and mornings with max and Mike Today we were chatting before we hit record and Mike wisely suggested we hit record before we talk for an hour. We're talking about tools. We were talking about skills. Had an interesting experience where I was building a box but it wasn't any kind of box. It was actually a strongman pinata for a friend of mine and so I hung up this box in a tree. And had a sledgehammer that he had to go find as part of this scavenger hunt and when a box a wood box is not wedged against the ground if it's just hanging.

00:42.54

mikebledsoe

Um.

01:52.60

Max Shank

You can hit that thing pretty much as hard as you want if it's wellmade with a sledgehammer and it's really hard because the forest dissipates throughout anyway, it was a fun ah thing for my friend's birthday shout out Anders. You're the man did a great scavenger hunt. But it made me realize how little I know about the principles of woodworking construction in general and it also made me start thinking about the tools required to do certain jobs and I was talking Mike I was talking with you just a second ago. About how I breezed right past using the simple tools. Well and I just in None fell swoop I bought a friend's full set of tools when I didn't know anything I had basically just purchased a home. And I had a drill from before but I didn't really have any any tools so I bought this whole ah batch of tools and half of them I didn't even know what they were a quarter of them I knew what they were but I didn't know when to use them and the other quarter. Actually have learned how to use and it makes me wish that I had gone back and just started with a drill and a hammer and a saw or a chisel or something like that and I think um, the same thing is true for all types of education.

04:01.32

mikebledsoe

Oh.

05:06.28

Max Shank

I Think we fly right through so quick to ah, some end result before really understanding the principles involved. Ah I found myself having to use a little math for these projects which was very exciting but what I realized is so. Ah, cool is when you build something the the math is important but all of the geometry and stuff is very incomplete because I remember in math Class. You usually don't account for the thickness of a material so there are all these. Minor adjustments that you have to make so I think ah yeah I would ah I am doing it now I'm going back in time and relearning the the simple principles of using a saw and a drill and fastening. Pieces of wood together and cutting different types of angles and slots and it's It's been.. It's been really fun.

06:36.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, that that journey really resonates with me you were you were talking about the tools and ah everything that was happening over the weekend and and how you all this shit. You don't need and I had a very similar experience. Yeah I grew up I grew up in Construction. My dad had his own construction company and um, you know I witnessed him use a lot of tools that I didn't use that I never use because they were advanced So like I'd seen them and then I got a toolbox when I was a kid. I was like in my mid teens and that's that was my Christmas gift the most disappointing Christmas gift I ever received was a tool empty Toolbox I could put tools in it I would greatly appreciate that now at some it. He's like it's like like man.

08:56.90

Max Shank

Sounds like the best gift ever now.

08:27.40

mikebledsoe

My dad was just a little ahead of himself. Um, you know I think he was He did a good job of instilling the things that are important even if it wasn't the thing that was gonna make me the happiest in the moment. Ah, and yeah, what a good guide that guy was.

09:30.76

Max Shank

Um, right I think that's called parenting.

09:06.60

mikebledsoe

Ah, so um, but yeah I I spent years accumulating and losing tools and I moved around a lot so I didn't stay in one spot so something that did recently and you talked he said something you know about.

10:07.00

Max Shank

Ah.

09:42.50

mikebledsoe

Being able to go back in time or go back and do it over again is I I basically did that because I got I got rid of all my personal belongings in 2018 and got down to 2 bags and traveled nomatically and ah there was like None little box of tools that were. That were like they're they're good for vehicles like they're everything you would need in a vehicle to is something were to go wrong. You know, just ah, a socket set and and a few wrenches. Nothing.

11:10.40

Max Shank

E.

11:21.20

Max Shank

Would you know what to do I I would not know what to do ah with the perfect speaking of skills if you gave me the perfect car tool set and a car that wasn't working forget it I would have no idea how to apply that tool set.

11:09.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well I was fortunate because my dad in his all of his foresight. He made sure I had classic cars growing up and so he made me pay for them but he really encouraged me to get classic cars because they are.

12:11.74

Max Shank

Oh.

11:47.54

mikebledsoe

Much easier to work on you know? Yeah, so if you anything before 1973 or 4 Yeah, everything is a hundred percent mechanical so right yeah the the electronics go as far as like the radio.

12:34.48

Max Shank

They're simpler machines.

12:49.78

Max Shank

No No electronics. The dash or something. Yeah.

12:26.62

mikebledsoe

The yeah the dash but like you don't you don't have fuel injection. There's nothing happening in the engine that's run electronically. There's no chips.

13:25.20

Max Shank

There's no power being adjusted to individual wheels during a turn via some computer making 60000 ah calculations per millisecond and you're like oh I'll just fix the computer.

12:47.80

mikebledsoe

Right? right.

13:09.92

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, so there's um, ah I think it was 1974 it was due to the oil crisis at the time which there's a lot of similarities between the 1970 s and the 2020 s in regard to if you look at.

14:20.20

Max Shank

Me.

13:44.62

mikebledsoe

What's happening geopolitically and economically, there's exactly yeah yeah, a little bit of pushback is what we're starting to witness with that as well. Um, yeah, there's a lot of similarities. Ah but 1 of the things that happened was in 1973 or 4

14:34.34

Max Shank

Psychedelic Resurgence currently too pretty cool.

14:24.36

mikebledsoe

They basically made they they wanted fuel. They wanted vehicles to become much more fuel efficient because the cost of oil was going up because of some opec shit that was going on so that's where fuel injectors came in now before that was mechanically driven fuel injection through Carburetors. So The the cool thing is is. My dad I don't know if he did this on purpose or not but with ah with a older vehicle. It is Simpler So It's easier to learn how to work on the other thing is is I'm confident now because I I rebuilt everything on cars I'm confident that if you gave me a carburet like a car that had a carburetor I could figure it out.

16:24.78

Max Shank

Qua.

15:43.32

mikebledsoe

And so um I'm not saying I would like figure it out like Macgyver in 10 seconds but I could I would eventually figure it out. It's been a long time but you start throwing all these electronics in and yeah, now you have to plug a computer into it just to know what's going on. So um.

16:34.68

Max Shank

Down.

16:22.70

mikebledsoe

So I know the basics.

17:04.66

Max Shank

It's a bit of an ego. It's a bit of an ego check too to go back and relearn the simple mechanics of things right? How how exact like how fluid passes through. Ah.

16:36.20

mikebledsoe

Things you think you should have learned or I should know by it as a man I should know this shit.

17:37.88

Max Shank

Pipe and what happens when it meets a junction and the pressure involved right? and the action of different things and just a really basic valve a very basic pump learning how these things work because I I realized I I mean I'm still not. Ah, educated in it. But you realize just what a tremendous amount of the world Around. You is only functioning because all of these parts are working exactly as they should and as soon as they would stop. You. At least I would at the time have no clue what's wrong or even how to ah track. Ah what might be wrong is wild.

18:28.24

mikebledsoe

Yeah I I find myself I want to get back to the tools but I like this track we're on because it makes me think about None thing I notice out in the world is um and again I think a lot of this has to do with. Ah. What a good job. My dad did raising me is I understand I didn't know that I understood how things worked better than most people and what I witness in the world now is people I watched them doing something I'm like don't do it like that you're going to fuck that thing up.

20:21.78

Max Shank

And it seems obvious to you it. It seems like I knew this when I was 8 But that's how I would be if I went to a farm the 10 year old kid would watch me doing something be like what are you? an idiot. That's not how you dig a trench like that's not how you drive a post.

19:40.66

mikebledsoe

And then it's gonna be broken or it's not gonna It's so obvious I'm like why would they do that.

19:56.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well.

20:13.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, but but when it comes down to and I look at something not not only was I taught how it's not just that I was taught how to do it. My dad did a good job in teaching me like end to end how it worked and why it worked like he was very big on the principles of like.

20:59.28

Max Shank

Dumb ass.

20:50.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, when you do this at least this this is the end result we're looking for and so I think a lot of times people are so focused on the end result that they don't They don't take the time to understand the process of how it gets there and they don't appreciate it either. So There's like ah, a really great appreciation that I have for. Ah technology because I understand enough about the ins and outs of how this thing works that um that it's I appreciate more and I can fix it quickly if I needed if needed. Um, so something I got into young as well as I got into computers I got into building computers.

22:30.32

Max Shank

Oh my God yeah.

22:04.60

mikebledsoe

And I got into running networks and yeah I can see.

22:49.22

Max Shank

You can follow the flow of energy. Basically you understand the flow of energy which is about relationships like the thing that blows my mind is there's no such thing as a thing which sounds Silly. So I'm gonna say it Again. There's no such thing as a thing because it's. Only describable in relation to other things. So if you have all of these end results and you have no idea how to track the energy flow of what's going On. It's like you're just in an ocean of darkness where you have no Clue. You're just kind of being ah, bounced around.

23:22.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's I've had us. Ah, my most recent experience of this is um, for 14 years of entrepreneurship I never did my books I always had a bookkeeper I I outsourced it heavily and one of the reasons.

24:06.12

Max Shank

By these forces.

24:35.52

Max Shank

Me too still. Do.

23:59.26

mikebledsoe

None of the reasons. Yeah what what? I stopped doing that recently one of the reasons I outsourced it heavily is because my none business partner ever what he had a ah master's in finance so he didn't even. He didn't even share I didn't even bother to look and he didn't share the profit loss the balance sheet like I really had no idea he would just tell me a thing. It was basically a thumbs up or thumbs down system and I was flying in the dark and um.

25:20.12

Max Shank

Right.

25:34.32

Max Shank

Right.

25:47.36

Max Shank

Um, which has its advantages I think has its advantages. Yeah.

25:08.74

mikebledsoe

At the end of the there were oh it. It allowed me to move really fast. So because of that business partner I was able to run barbell shrug with I didn't understand how I didn't understand the all the reporting but we were making millions of dollars a year. So.

26:23.36

Max Shank

The.

25:46.70

mikebledsoe

You know there there was a benefit now. The drawback was was when I no longer had that person and I found another I found another Cfo who also did an amazing job. But what I understood was when when that existing system ceased to be.

26:40.28

Max Shank

Right.

27:07.98

Max Shank

Her.

26:25.62

mikebledsoe

And I didn't have all the same people. It required me to understand learn things and I felt like and and this was accurate I had to go back and learn some really fundamental things about bookkeeping about accounting about ah cash flow cause really it comes down to cash flow and Cash Flow. Management and so I mean if you look at Accounting. It's I mean it's a big scam because the whole point of accounting is so you know how much to pay in taxes at the end of the day. But if you that's what that's what modern day accounting is yeah the majority of.

28:06.26

Max Shank

True True true. Yeah.

27:40.34

mikebledsoe

You know I wouldn't have to spend thousands of dollars a year on accounting if cut. Yeah, exactly yeah go. Um.

28:26.16

Max Shank

Is it counting kind of like cutting your switch for the Taxman You know you? you know if you're in trouble you have to like in your parents a real thug. They're like go cut a tree branch so I can beat you with it and that's what accounting is like.

28:11.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, go go pick out. Go pick out your switch. Yeah, ah so ah, so the way I look at it now is look I gotta count I handle the tax ship but my job is cash flow management and the way I see it.

29:14.22

Max Shank

That's the.

29:30.28

Max Shank

Which is energy management right? which comes back to relationships you got to be able to track the energy flow and the relationship from 1 point to the next just the same way you got to be able to track the gasoline from the fuel tank.

28:51.16

mikebledsoe

Is if energy management and if I.

29:11.92

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

30:09.76

Max Shank

All the way to the exhaust can you track that gasoline all the way through you're probably going to have a decent idea of how this system is working together and actually cash is really good symbol for fuel or vice versa actually like fuel and cash.

29:59.16

mikebledsoe

I Think it's a great. Ah.

30:49.80

Max Shank

And a motor is like ah you you could also think of it like a cell instead of something man-made. But actually you know an organization can be looked at as a motor or as a cell or a creature or as an ecosystem I Think the motor analogy is a little bit more. Ah, tool-based and cold and the cell analogy or like a tree or something like that. But you're still tracking the flow of energy just the same Way. You could track the flow of gasoline through a car you could track the flow of Photon Photosynthesis. Ah, through a tree and you can understand the water and how the carbon dioxide from the air is converted into sugar through this process like you can understand the energy flow and transformation and cash flow is kind of the same thing you're understanding. How energy is transformed through that organism or organization which is your business.

32:10.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and and um, you're spot on I mean I like the the classic car mechanical analogy because it is so much simpler and so that's a great place to start if you start with the complexity of a cell. You know, now there's ah it exactly? Yeah, not. That's that's advanced I mean I think that is a great analogy but in the beginning if you don't understand the cash flow which is.

33:38.98

Max Shank

Our sales team is the Mitochondria and it's like wait wait. What? no.

33:29.11

mikebledsoe

Can you look at your profit loss. Can you look at your bash your balance sheet and your cash flow reporting like if you can't look at those and those tell you a story that make that they go Oh I know now how to make it doesn't It won't inform you on how to make all the decisions in your business. It's not gonna.

34:44.80

Max Shank

Right.

34:06.34

mikebledsoe

Gonna tell you who to hire. But it's gonna tell you what position to hire for right? And so um and people at the highest levels are making most of the decisions based on the numbers the higher up you get in your in your thinking and your business is that now here's the thing about I've learned about money. Is that I am um I'm in charge of the cash flow of my own cash flow management and the better I can manage what I currently have the more I'll be able to manage in the future If You think that. Adding more Cash. Ah I think most people walk around and I used to I used to walk around thinking like this if I just had more money then I'd be able to save and invest and I'd be I'd be a better steward of the money I had if there were more pete. That's what people.

36:36.54

Max Shank

If only.

36:00.58

mikebledsoe

That's what people believe but the truth is is if you become what is.

36:49.96

Max Shank

It's a very protective phrase it if only I had something then I could do this other thing If only if only I Yeah, it's it's perfect. Yes, very protective. Yeah no I'm I'm good.

36:19.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's conditional and it's outside of yourself. You're not responsible for it. Yeah yeah.

37:23.48

Max Shank

I'm not I'm barely even related to this this dream here I have nothing to do with it. So it's related to something else. My my dream. My dream is related to the breeze.

36:51.40

mikebledsoe

Ah, yes, so this false belief is what keeps people in this this cycle of defeat in regard to to money is because. They don't understand how it flows because they're afraid to look at it. There's an emotional response to being present with the money. Step None is check your bank account every day now that doesn't tell you the whole story It's just a snapshot in time. But if you start doing that and then you learn about bookkeeping and you learn about. Ah. And you learn about cash flow management. You start getting to a more advanced conversation about cash flow. It is it can be in my experience. It's been incredibly painful in the short term. It's it's it can be frustrating. It takes way more time than I think it should take I sit down.

39:15.80

Max Shank

Like organizing the garage for me. But but once you get the the nuts and bolts in the same place and once you get the drill and the saw and the sandpaper and the grinders and the chisels all in their own like place.

38:39.92

mikebledsoe

Like organizing the garage.

39:52.28

Max Shank

Then you look at this organized grid and like I was telling you before we started this show. It's ah it's never been something ah that I have had as a work environment I have just thrived in chaos as soon as something urgent comes up I go into a. Hurricane of activity and I relentlessly pursue this thing ignoring everything else. But as you know I'm 34 now I'm appreciating more and more the clarity of having a clean. Space and a tightly organized Ah Toolbox ah tool shed garage workshop all that stuff and I think that understanding ah like we say you know as within so without same thing with the organization of. Your tools which are basically ah levers to amplify your energy or refocus your energy conversion same thing with the business. It's do you have everything tightly organized so you can really see what you need to see so you can know. When it's right to use which tool available to you? Um I Like to think of that energy flow also from a ah customer flow Standpoint. There's always this flow of customers who um.

41:45.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

42:59.46

Max Shank

You know you just capture their attention and that's the top layer of that funnel and the reason the funnel analogy works so well is because it has like gravity involved into it and there's this effortlessness where things just flow down into the funnel and it's this ah mathematical.

42:17.84

mikebledsoe

O.

43:37.64

Max Shank

Reduction to a focal point that um, it really describes um a nat a pretty natural probability curve too. But if you ah understand like how many people. You're capturing their attention. How many people you're keeping their attention because that's a form of energy your your attention is like I'm going to be bold here. Your attention is like Quantum energy because there is no math that can describe I mean maybe there is. There's no math that can really describe the potential power and force that can be driven ah through a person's Attention. So I think understanding how the flow of the attention of your customers and also eventually the cash of your customers is really important. For deciding which tools to use next. Do you hire a different marketing department. Do you need someone to work on ads. Do you need someone to ah improve the actual product itself because you get None of people who see it but then everyone hates it I mean it's so much easier to see. What to do next and I think uncertainty is really useful and of course the natural quality of life is uncertainty. We like to kid ourselves like we know what's going to happen next month.

45:53.14

mikebledsoe

The ah anything that's certain is ah is illusory. Yeah, the trick we plan ourselves to make ourselves feel safe so that we can actually get shit done If yeah.

46:44.66

Max Shank

Right? But but the more but but it does feel. Yeah and it does feel safer when we know more stuff like the illusion is useful. You know if we didn't have that illusion. We could not have this weekly appointment that I have found very.

46:34.58

mikebledsoe

Absolutely not? yeah.

47:22.82

Max Shank

That I have found very enriching We have to both believe the lie of next fucking monday.

46:50.86

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well the live that there's days of the week for one wait. Not yeah, but um, but it's it's a useful to useful belief to use it very confident.

47:43.96

Max Shank

Right? And that there will be a next one I feel pretty confident that we will talk again next week but what's that confidence based on. It's not based on certainty. What's that.

47:30.24

mikebledsoe

Um, I mean I be ah well look I the way another something I find very useful is attention is the most important thing because I love what Tony Robbins says which is where your attention goes energy flows and.

48:21.52

Max Shank

Voodoo.

48:46.94

Max Shank

Right.

48:09.52

mikebledsoe

Incredibly accurate. Here's the thing your energy is flowing all the time. No matter what it is moving and flowing and your attention is dictating where it goes and so a lot of times the the hardest thing for someone to do the the highest amount of effort. To get something going is to make the choice to do it to change the inertia of the moment. Oh I'm lying in bed right now. But I I want to go for a walk I Want to go work out the hardest part of starting to work out is actually putting on. Your gym clothes and walking into the gym and doing the None movement. That's the hardest part after that working out's enjoyable sometimes going to bed is hard to do. But once you get in bed. You're glad you're there. It's because we are.

50:31.96

Max Shank

And then.

49:57.28

mikebledsoe

Constantly choosing where our tension is at the energy is moving. So I think that I didn't get.

50:47.74

Max Shank

Or or we're just scratching an itch like the the itch becomes enough that we get up and scratch it and that's that's really all it is is you're waiting for a painful enough catalyst and and and then you could argue that nothing is difficult.

50:25.94

mikebledsoe

It's painful enough enough pain.

51:25.44

Max Shank

It's just that you have this sensation of things you do want to do this sensation of things You don't want to do and if you don't want to do it. The pain has to be very significant and if you already want to do it. The pain could be almost nothing.

51:13.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and you know we're surrounded by people who try to warn us about the the incoming pain they say you know if you keep doing things this way then the pain. The pain is gonna get really big but you don't you don't believe it. You don't believe it and then.

52:18.22

Max Shank

Oh my oh my god I hate that I hate that um it make okay Jesus oh god.

51:52.80

mikebledsoe

And then one day they're fucking right? They you're like oh the pain is really outrageous now Oh had I only listened and made a different choice a little bit sooner I'd experience less pain right now. It's a good teacher.

52:58.34

Max Shank

Regrets. But how do you? How do you? determine fact from fiction like like rightfully so rightfully so an orthopedic surgeon could say don't do jujitsu. The risk is not worth it.

52:28.76

mikebledsoe

What what you got it. We got it.

52:45.24

mikebledsoe

Totally totally.

53:31.58

Max Shank

You're going to hurt yourself and you could a ah like hurt yourself badly and be like oh I should've listened to that guy or or you might not, you might have you know 40 years of fun and family and camaraderie not hurt yourself. Or see a combination of both. You could have this community and family and quality that you love and totally fuck yourself up and go you know what? I think that was still worth it. I mean look people still do Crossfit Pretty aggressively beyond their capacity and frankly.

53:43.56

mikebledsoe

You still have.

54:43.74

Max Shank

Whatever Kinks you're into exercise-wise powerlifting Olympic lifting I'm a bit of a tennis nut at the moment. It doesn't matter your flavor. Um, but as long as you're willing to pay the price who am I to say that you shouldn't pay that price because if you're getting a lot more out of something.

54:38.64

mikebledsoe

Um, ah.

55:22.52

Max Shank

Community Family activity. Even if you're ah, harming yourself to some extent Maybe as long as you think it's worth the price. You know who am I to say.

54:56.58

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well deciding who you're going to listen to who gives you the advice right? like like like an like an orthopedic surgeon telling you not to do jijitsu First you have to consider they're coming at you from an orthopedic surgeon perspective.

55:51.84

Max Shank

So tough.

55:34.70

mikebledsoe

Who probably doesn't do jujitsu and they're looking at you and going look I can I can tell you that this can be a ah poor choice in the ah in the realm of ah your bone and joint health you know and you go Okay, but what about all the other benefits.

56:45.58

Max Shank

Oh. Right? And you can't calculate. It. It's unknowable. That's why decision making is so tough.

56:14.52

mikebledsoe

You know that might come along with it and so so so so there's 2 ways that you can learn None is you can just wait for things to be so painful that you figure it out and you learn that way and or you could listen to other people now. We have and ah some people are yeah well you can also but here's the thing is it's not just you don't want to just listen to anybody right? you guys? What would you have is.

57:37.38

Max Shank

So through Belief or experience.

57:54.40

Max Shank

Ah, no, no, no, no, but but you can learn those two ways you can believe someone or you can experience it firsthand.

57:24.56

mikebledsoe

Totally totally and so you got to be careful about who you believe and you you got to go with their track record right? And so this is one of the things that I notice is that this is one of the this where wisdom is missing So wisdom can be passed down.

58:16.56

Max Shank

Yeah, no shit.

58:03.80

mikebledsoe

Or it can be developed by yourself and the problem is is that people are listening to people who have very poor track records and it's very fucking true and so a lot of times. Ah.

58:49.52

Max Shank

The.

59:07.82

Max Shank

Ah, yeah.

58:38.96

mikebledsoe

For instance, someone might listen to you know I won't get into anything that's too controversial. But yeah, the last couple years there was a lot of people giving advice from a place of authority that was that were obvious that they were not in alignment.

59:26.48

Max Shank

It's got to be a fable for that or something.

59:45.36

Max Shank

Bold claims.

59:17.34

mikebledsoe

Personally with the advice they were giving ah it was obvious that these were policies that were being passed down from a political perspective not due to science or or true ah medicine right? so.

01:00:24.38

Max Shank

Um, you mean Hypocrisy hypocrisy.

59:54.90

mikebledsoe

So but then I I look at a guy like Paul check and I go and ah, most people look at what Paul check says if they listen what he says a go that guy's fucking crazy I don't know how you could listen to that guy and I go. Ah.

01:01:06.42

Max Shank

Um, is that what most people say Ah, ah.

01:00:32.62

mikebledsoe

Yeah, if you introduce him to a mainstream person I'm talking about the mainstream people they they listen to them. They're like they're like man they may not say he's they may not say he's wrong, but they feel like he's extreme right? and and he is to you know he he's hes all in on the lifestyle.

01:01:47.12

Max Shank

He's he's beyond its extreme. It's incredible to see Actually you know the library and the the rocks and the the water charging and electric she and he is like this is what I'm doing I'm going to do this all day every day.

01:01:31.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well he he's the.

01:02:22.60

Max Shank

And this is what I got and very unapologetic I think he's ah, a really, He's a really cool cat. You know he's He's all in on that thing.

01:01:50.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, and I'm not I'd say I'm on board with him for 98% of it and you know just every once when I'm like and not really for me. Not gonna fault him for. But yeah, like like who am I but um, but that's the guy listened to.

01:02:52.84

Max Shank

Um, yeah, he's a wizard. Right.

01:02:30.48

mikebledsoe

Like if I want health advice I listen to him I listen to Alex Rachinski he's one of ah Paul Chick's top guys.

01:03:17.90

Max Shank

So you got to be careful who you trust because you can make a ton of benefit trusting the right person like I got to trust you or someone like you to fix my car if you trust the wrong person to fix your car car's going to be fucked up. It's going to cost you a lot of money same thing with your body if someone's like hey.

01:02:53.78

mikebledsoe

Right.

01:03:56.30

Max Shank

You know, don't eat bananas because they have too much sugar. Maybe you believe that and you never have a banana and that's maybe not going to hurt you but you may be missing out so there it can be a negative. It can be just removing of a positive.

01:03:24.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we got look Yeah, we look at be one ways is track records but the other thing is also a lot of times people I think people are searching for that perfect mentor like this person has everything that I want and that's probably not going to happen and.

01:04:53.48

Max Shank

Oo yeah, the perfect teacher I'm just waiting I'm gonna I'm gonna really get it together once I find the perfect teacher see the problem Mike is I don't have a good role model I got all these guys that are like 90% role models. But it's just not enough for me to try anything yet. But.

01:04:28.74

mikebledsoe

A.

01:05:27.42

Max Shank

I Know the right guy is out there when I find him.

01:04:46.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so what I but I um I saw a a psychic once and she said stop looking for a mentor. There aren't any for you. You're gonna be your own and and I was like okay, whatever and um.

01:05:54.32

Max Shank

Oh yeah.

01:05:26.12

mikebledsoe

And and but it did get me thinking and I go you know there is no one person who really is living the lifestyle that I want to live like there's like if I really sit and dream about what's my ideal Lifestyle. No One's doing it now. There are people who have figured out the business stuff. Are people who figured out the health stuff they have figured out the things that I'm interested in but they I don't know anyone who's figured out the business side and the health side and the family side and all these things. Yeah except for max. Yeah, That's why you're here, but um, ah the.

01:06:47.80

Max Shank

It's very exciting.

01:07:05.60

Max Shank

Um, except for me except for me obviously. Is that is that a dig at both of us that we're that we're here Talking. He's like it's like you're such a loser. You're here talking to me. Ah.

01:06:44.72

mikebledsoe

Are.

01:07:01.74

mikebledsoe

So My my what I started doing I was like I was like look I'm gonna just learn about business from this guy I don't you know what? if he starts talking about anything that's not business grain assault it doesn't mean I'm gonna stop listening but I understand that he's the expert in this. And I'm gonna take from that he may be great. There's so many people who are really good at business and some of the health advice they give is really good for someone who's just obese and out of shape. But you know like they're not giving me health advice and someone who is some of the the top people in Health I mean you know you know this as well Like. Don't listen them for business advice at all and you want the relationships totally.

01:09:06.38

Max Shank

Or or relationship advice or you know language communication skills I mean you know you gotta separate the trait from the the persona like this mask that people like people just wear this mask and they're like I'm this guy I'm.

01:08:47.58

mikebledsoe

E.

01:09:45.84

Max Shank

This is my character.. What do you think?? Ah, the last thing you want to do because then you get trapped two ways. Ah you'll dislike some people so ah, aggressively. That you'll ignore what they say even if they say something really wise that would be super helpful for you. So I think I'm actually quite good at this because I dislike so many. No I'm just kidding but you have to be able to separate the bit of information that is being.

01:09:35.76

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, have the um.

01:10:49.84

Max Shank

Sent to you that you are receiving the message that you're receiving from the messenger. It's like don't kill the messenger but hey look don't glorify him either and that's maybe the the key to messaging in general is you don't want to glorify but you also don't want to kill the messenger and it should.

01:10:21.26

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, um.

01:11:26.14

Max Shank

You want to try to separate it from how you feel about the ah the persona or the the mask um it it makes me think of ancient Egypt. Of course where they would do trials in the dark so you couldn't be swayed by knowing who was who ah so.

01:11:14.80

mikebledsoe

Move.

01:12:04.20

Max Shank

I Think that's really important but certainly ah.

01:11:30.58

mikebledsoe

It's a skill. It's a skill to develop is to not throw the baby out with the bathwater and I I um I ah yeah I was talking to Ashley the other day I was like I'm she's like.

01:12:22.64

Max Shank

It's like a ego release I don't like that guy So I'm gonna reject him.

01:12:06.16

mikebledsoe

Man you you tend to get a lot of hard cases like I'm I'm very good at dealing with difficult men men who tend to be you know? Ah,, there's something that's that's wounded or there's some like heavy. Ah, ego or whatever it is. They're real heavy and something and they they tend they um they tend to they tend to turn a lot of people off. But for some reason I have the patience to sit through some of the bullshit or.

01:13:34.80

Max Shank

Feels like I'm being attacked right now.

01:13:19.54

mikebledsoe

You know, a lot of the the what's guarded in order to get to the gold and I was like yeah think that like like I I'm not quick to and a lot of it just comes down to Judgment. It's like yeah I'm I'm really just always looking for the good and everybody and. And not that they're a good person but that they have something that is of value I look for the value in every single person because I know that every single person they know something deeply that I I don't know yet and ah everything about who they are is what has created that.

01:15:01.72

Max Shank

Oh.

01:14:34.60

mikebledsoe

That possibility from that for them to have that Knowledge. So for me to judge all parts of them before I get to that nugget would it would keep me from finding it but also like coming from a place of appreciating like the reason a guy you know. But try to stay away from naming names. But the reason some of these people that they're they're kind of crazy in a lot of ways. They're not.. They're not mainstream, but the the gold is with the people who are so outside they're outliers that most people can't understand or get along with them.

01:16:05.20

Max Shank

Crazy compared to what I mean they're all relative terms. But I think that's.

01:16:24.80

Max Shank

The freaks the freaks the teslas you know the person the the ah marcones they're like hey what do you think if we like vibrate something through the air across the atlantic and they're like yeah that sounds that would be really nice if we could send messages.

01:15:48.12

mikebledsoe

But free. Yeah.

01:17:03.82

Max Shank

Across this gigantic Ocean. They're like yeah,, let's let's try it out like the freaks are where you get like the really juicy Gold. It's like we all get a shovel and if you dig one hole your entire Life. You're going to dig a lot deeper into that topic or you can dig a bunch of different holes. Like I'll dig a tennis hole over here I'll dig a fitness hole over here I'll dig a you know philosophy hole over here and like a nietzsche hole and a young and you know you're digging all these holes but the people who only dig one hole and they go all the way down they go as deep as they can. With this fucking topic I speak from personal experience because while I have a lot of diverse interests. It All does come back to energy transformation whether it's tennis where we're like I'm literally transforming the ah energy of my body. Transferring it into the ball when I'm playing music same thing I'm basically turning sausages into sound with my fingers. So I eat sausages I get the energy to move my fingers. It makes noise. It's incredible. But. I have spent such a tremendous amount of time in ah fitness and Health ah pain Mobility Strength athleticism that I feel a little crazy about it and you can't help Um, but. Feel compassion for people who are just barely into the Journey. You know you realize like are they bad? Are they good. It's like they're on a different path even if they're on the same path as you they're either ahead or behind or left or right it's um, it's It's all compassion related that allows you. To let people feel free and open to let that energy out because usually it's an energy blockage and that's what the ego is the ego is like an energy trap and it it captures some of the shit right? you and I have a conversation. And it's basically 1 plus 1 makes 3 because it's you and I and now there's this ah Harmony or resonance between us and it could be more dissonant or it could be more resonant and harmonious. But it's this third, it's this. Third thing that is the relationship between those entities and if you say something I like or you just say nice things about me. Maybe my ego filter will like capture those things I'll be like ah I'm gonna I'm gonna store this energy up now and it's usually not conscious.

01:21:35.28

mikebledsoe

A.

01:22:35.68

Max Shank

Which things we store and which things we don't but it can ah it can direct the flow and it can also plug the flow if you get too much ego in there. So the ego diverts the flow but it can also clog it up a little bit.

01:22:25.38

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, agreed I want to shift back because I never finished one point that I got what is extremely practical for people and that is started saying that.

01:23:11.92

Max Shank

That's kind of how I think of it.

01:23:02.20

mikebledsoe

When you were talking about being able to go back and rebuild your toolset and I did that because I went nomadic didn't have anything and I've since purchased a house three months ago and I rented a house for twelve months in Austin Texas and. It was I still didn't a it didn't feel like home didn't I didn't feel very permanent I really couldn't do anything to the House. So I I didn't accumulate any new tools there but in the last three months of owning a home I have a i.

01:24:37.30

Max Shank

A.

01:24:12.46

mikebledsoe

I've been very selective about which tools I buy because I walk into home Depot now and I want to buy everything I'm like oh I know what this could be used for I Know what this could be used for. But I yeah but that's that's the um.

01:25:09.52

Max Shank

That's what I did I was like supermarket sweep I was like hustling around there with a shopping cart just throwing stuff in the thing.

01:24:49.40

mikebledsoe

That's that's the warrior energy. Um Paul check had this conversation with me Doug and anders and he talked yeah, the the warrior tries to fucking kill everything and and part of that is he tries to accumulate the the warrior doesn't isn't worried about boundaries.

01:25:45.66

Max Shank

Hoarding.

01:25:25.80

mikebledsoe

He wants to see how big he can build the empire. How much can I accomplish how much can I accumulate The warrior is trying to accumulate and accomplish as much as possible. Yeah, it's the end and then and then when you move into the King Archetype What? you.

01:26:28.60

Max Shank

It's like the inhale.

01:26:01.42

mikebledsoe

What you move into is you and you realize how much energy is needed to maintain. Ah all of those new those boundaries. It's like oh I could go weigh the fuck over there but do I want to build a wall that far out and then have to protect.

01:27:15.96

Max Shank

Manage it.

01:26:38.94

mikebledsoe

And manage everything inside that wall and so a good king when when Matures well goes. You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna draw a boundary that's inside of my ability to manage it and this goes back to money management too. It's like living within your means is a really good practical application of this. Spend less than you make and so the the War The the warrior will walk into home Depot and fill the basket with a bunch of stuff that he thinks he may need ah for some future project because there's an idea but when you when someone gets in the King Archetype which.

01:28:04.60

Max Shank

Seems simple.

01:27:56.30

mikebledsoe

Like it's funny because I I heard this and as I've you know in the last couple years I've I've felt myself moving into it and I think that especially especially in the the spiritual community right now people are like talking about Kings and queens and all this in in the woooo community.

01:29:07.88

Max Shank

I Prefer to be a thought of as a God King is a little lower I wanted to be like the emperor of exercise for a while but it didn't really satisfy my craving for divine power. So I'm skipping I was warrior for a long time Emperor king.

01:28:34.94

mikebledsoe

A.

01:29:01.50

mikebledsoe

Well I think what's important when we think about archetypes is you're you are able to ah cultivate the energy of that archetype you are not that archetype don't don't let the ego get confused and that you're not a King you're not.

01:29:45.14

Max Shank

Not really my speed. So.

01:30:20.58

Max Shank

It's like putting on a persona.

01:29:40.96

mikebledsoe

You're not a warrior you are you are inhabiting the energy of a warrior you are inhabiting and so I think that's it's you're playing a character. It's It's a really healthy place to approach psychologically because it allows you to be much more agile in your thinking and your ability to to.

01:30:38.60

Max Shank

You're playing a character almost.

01:30:20.24

mikebledsoe

Show up the way is needed for the the moment people who get stuck in 1 identity you know thing it works for a while and then it becomes troublesome but going back to the.

01:31:19.44

Max Shank

Well to be a good Tactician you need to be able to put yourself in the perspective of the other entities involved in your campaign. So let's say No yeah I mean.

01:30:56.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, if you're ever gonna get to that point where you're actually working strategy like you're gonna get to the you're gonna be able to happen. Yeah, well this is why if you read a king warrior magician lover in order to get to the to a really well suited King Archetype and be able to.

01:31:54.34

Max Shank

Isn't all life that.

01:31:36.60

mikebledsoe

Energize that well is you have to have really explored the other archetypes because you have to understand how to have command over them. Um, and so um, so for for myself instead of walking in the home depot the last few months and

01:32:35.56

Max Shank

A he.

01:32:12.94

mikebledsoe

I've I wanted to there was the thought oh I could get this. This would be really good for this project I should get this for whatever I said no only and my girlfriend did the same that she was like she's like what don't you get the thing you know I can tell you want to get I'm like like yeah but I'm not gonna use it today and home depot is 5 minutes from my house.

01:33:03.80

Max Shank

Right.

01:33:23.18

Max Shank

Yeah, boom.

01:32:49.96

mikebledsoe

So it's not like you know and I know that there's there's a store near you too. It's not like you have to travel hours away to get your shit and now we got Amazon prime. Yeah, but yeah, and so now I just get I've been getting the tools that I really need.

01:33:47.88

Max Shank

You can order it online. Also you can order almost any tool.

01:33:28.88

mikebledsoe

For what I for that day that week. Whatever it is whatever project and only the ones I need and if I can borrow it and it's easy to get my hands on it I'll do that first because I may only need it once and so I've been slowly accumulating tools. So one of the things I've done is I've stuck with 1 brand for all my power tools.

01:34:33.00

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:34:46.16

Max Shank

I did the same ah, that's what I do I like the color it makes me feel cool. It makes me feel cool to have a drill that is like good enough for a contractor to use all day and I use it for 4 minutes every three weeks

01:34:07.56

mikebledsoe

Um, and I just I go with the wall and I oh sweet they and.

01:34:36.00

mikebledsoe

Exactly exactly. Ah.

01:35:23.24

Max Shank

You know I have this like heavy duty I have this heavy duty like Twisty gun with this five amp hour battery twenty is so aggressive for what I usually use it for but I love having like buy once cry once get like one good.

01:35:04.92

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:35:59.12

Max Shank

Tool especially for the core group. Ps yeah ah.

01:35:18.14

mikebledsoe

Well, that's what that's what I like about that's what I like about duwalt like my dad always taught him is like get craftsman hammers because if you break the if you break the the handle on it. They replace it for free. Lifetime warranties on those things and then de walt I looked at the guarantees I shopped around I had a couple who were like oh you should get Riob I'm like have but the guarantee is not nearly as good as de waltz.

01:36:44.64

Max Shank

And it depends on the person like if you go all riobi. You'll probably be fine. Um, if you want to go like see something really cool. There's actually a Youtube channel called project farm and he does these tests of tools and they're incredible.

01:36:39.14

mikebledsoe

Project Farm okay

01:37:22.36

Max Shank

He is really a project farm new video every Sunday guys the man he basically goes through a whole battery of tests. So. It's like a 10 to 20 minute long video. It looks like they take him ah like twenty forty hours to make per video. It's so. Brutal because he'll you know test different tools in like None different ways and really objective so he shows you what kind of wear and tear they can handle can they be left out in the rain for a week. What kind of rust if it really good so getting the right tool is a big point for this ah some some cheap ass tools are just as good if not better than the expensive ones so you don't always get what you pay for ah, the other thing I would say is even.

01:37:52.48

mikebledsoe

Down.

01:38:03.82

mikebledsoe

Um. Yeah.

01:39:12.46

Max Shank

Gosh Even if you don't think you're very craft mine minded or craft. Ah crafty I was trying to not say crafty I was like ah you know? ah.

01:38:49.96

mikebledsoe

Crafty. I I knew you wanted to say it I had to give you permission.

01:39:49.48

Max Shank

A little bit of that ah feels really nice. Um, and maybe it's just maybe it's just because I don't do it very often. But every time I go into the workshop and start building things. You just get into this flow and you know the creative force is.

01:39:11.78

mikebledsoe

Really good.

01:40:27.38

Max Shank

Is such a ah powerful Energy. So the connection with ah the work that you do and the attention that you put into something and the result is is really neat. It doesn't have to be Woodworking. You could build stuff out of clay you could. Ah, make stuff out of legos I mean they're all different ways you do macrame That's pretty fun.

01:40:27.34

mikebledsoe

Well, there's there's something primal about I think building something that has utility and that anytime I build something that that like woodworking man it just turns my my girlfriend on so much and that like and it's.

01:41:40.20

Max Shank

Then you take her to the woodshed.

01:41:04.64

mikebledsoe

That's right, but it's um, it The fact that ignites something in her. It's like and then that that then feeds back into me I'm like I'm like oh I did something fucking. You know, impressive and because I mean everything that we do is men is really for women you know women are. And are definitely in charge of this whole thing. Yeah.

01:42:29.32

Max Shank

It's all for sex the more I think about it the more I like what? why are we? Why are we trying to get food so we can have sex later. Why are we trying to run away from the tiger. So we can have sex later. That's it why? Why are we building this.

01:42:09.58

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah, was it supposed to Pat.

01:43:02.64

Max Shank

This big nest to attract a female so we can have sex. It's it's ah it's all about sex across the board. All the fighting is for sex. It's is crazy. Ah, but that's the how else could it be That's light and dark connecting.

01:42:27.52

mikebledsoe

Um, sex and it's crazy. Yeah.

01:42:52.42

mikebledsoe

What's ah, that's how we got here as ah, that's all a human human race continues on.

01:43:35.24

Max Shank

That's the vibration of everything. Evolution evolution is God's savage boredom playing out. Basically it's it's this this divine creation. Not divine necessarily but the force of creation who knows the Tao Darkness some some sort of thing. There. It's ah it's just it's just dancing on and offs at different levels and it's somehow perfectly Fair. You know what? I mean like the the forces are perfectly fair when you think about how different creatures have organized themselves some are spiky.

01:43:54.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:45:02.26

Max Shank

Some are armored some are venomous. It's all just about ah energy management right? Some are really fast. Some are really so like a tortoise versus ah I don't know like a Hummingbird tortoise lives way longer.

01:44:31.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:44:56.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah now. Yeah.

01:45:40.64

Max Shank

Relatively speaking is a very interesting thing but so it all comes back to energy management and tools are a way to gain leverage and focus that energy we can actually focus it in like ah like a pickaxe. Something like that. So we can focus energy down to a finer point or we can focus it on to ah a much larger area like a mallet or something like that and using the right tool for the job is is pretty big.

01:46:01.60

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah I would find the same thing in the kitchen I witnessed people trying to cook something. They don't have the right type of pan. They don't have the right knives The knives aren't sharp the you know they don't have the right spatula like like people.

01:47:16.10

Max Shank

It's a hodgepodge.

01:46:37.52

mikebledsoe

People who don't like to cook usually don't have a great kitchen and if you put somebody if yeah if I put somebody who doesn't like to cook in my house for a month and we started cooking together I bet you they start liking to cook because they go.

01:47:31.60

Max Shank

Chicken or the egg right? ah.

01:47:14.00

mikebledsoe

Oh it's actually really easy. Yeah, you just do this and then you do this and then it's very low effort. Yeah, you can get exactly what you want and yeah have some music playing. Yeah.

01:48:00.48

Max Shank

Can always get exactly what you want easy to modify have a bunch of different sauces handy when when I cook. That's how I like to do it I like to give a few options make it really modular like I get the. Couple meats get a couple breads get a couple sauces mix and match Boom Boom Boom We're off track. Let's bring it. Let's bring it home. Okay, so the topic again was tools and skills. We talked about role models which is kind of a cool. Um.

01:48:00.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah I think we nail the topics fairly. Well yeah I was bring a home tools and skills.

01:49:15.26

Max Shank

Way to bring it all together. Um not necessarily lumping the the practitioner with the skill that you're trying to learn right? That's that's a big that's a big one.

01:48:57.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, like like ah, choosing who you learn from wisely. You know, understanding what they're an expert at what they're not an expert at. Um, sticking with just the things that an expert at and then also judging how much of an expert they are at that thing based on their track record and if you can find somebody has a track record that's decades old you're doing pretty fucking Good. So But yeah in regard that.

01:50:31.94

Max Shank

Yeah, it's good to be objective. Yeah, ah basically you're talking about who who to choosing who to trust which ah, that's a big one for any relationship right.

01:49:56.40

mikebledsoe

How to choose a ah wise elder.

01:50:07.60

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah. Yeah, so mentor Mentee so we're gonna pick up a lot. You know you could either fumble through and try to figure things out for yourself which you will do a lot of that. That's that's gonna be ever present in your life. You should always be you know. How much time did I in the last year did I spend in Quickbooks just fumbling around and doing things and then seeing the report and going and then realizing oh I should categorize this like this and because I want my report to look like this and it took a lot of fumbling around. While also having a mentor for the whole thing so it was a mix of the two is a mix of getting some instruction from someone who's got decades of experience that has proof in the pudding and then also fumbling around a lot myself and then realizing that this is one of the things that's like really great about being older.

01:52:32.98

Max Shank

The fumbling is fun.

01:52:45.86

Max Shank

Oh shit, he's older now appeal to authority old man I'm old listen to me I'm old. That's what you sound like Mike Trust trust me I'm old trust me I'm old.

01:52:05.44

mikebledsoe

Is I now I now have a history of I have enough History. Ah. Ah, it's true though you should listen listen up listen up. Well you know there there are some people who are 40 that haven't really paid attention maybe shouldn't listen to them I think I've paid attention to about half of my life. So I'm doing okay, but. I Think that with age comes the perspective and that I now understand how long it takes to learn something to be actually skilled at it for me exactly and so and so like it used to I used to believe that I should be able.

01:54:00.38

Max Shank

For you? Yeah, totally.

01:53:38.40

mikebledsoe

This happens with athletes all the time they get in the gym I want to squat £500 like you do squat £300 right now. It's gonna take you maybe years to get to 500 and they're like no I'll get there faster like £5 a week times so many weeks and and maybe but but um, but what i.

01:54:45.16

Max Shank

Maybe yeah.

01:54:16.34

mikebledsoe

What I look at is I mean I miscalculate my progress constantly and in the wait room.

01:55:06.22

Max Shank

I Always calculate my progress perfectly. What do you think of that this is all working exactly as I planned talking to you.

01:54:32.88

mikebledsoe

Ah, so. So the so but I realize how how long it takes me to learn something and so I give myself so much more grace and which is interesting is because when I give myself grace and I give myself. A lot of time to learn something and even when I went through this financial course they were like you should be able to get through this in this amount of time and I I So came back to them within a couple weeks after looking at the content I go. It's gonna take me about twice as long and part of it is I Really like to get into the content I don't want to just pass over it.

01:56:34.74

Max Shank

People are different too I know exactly what you're talking about I am the same way and the the reaction the ego reaction when I try to learn something new. A lot of the time especially in the workshop is holy fuck I'm retarded I am so so.

01:55:56.28

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:57:11.62

Max Shank

I am so stupid I can't build a box. How am I going to build this fucking box and I'm drawing stuff on a piece of paper and I'm like I can't make 3 dimensions on a None dimensional paper I don't know how to fucking draw this thing and then so I'm here I'm like in my garage sweating suffering thinking. Um, how fucking stupid am I that I can't make a square I can't do it I can draw a square but the idea of manufacture. So what I ended up doing is I took a bunch of tiny planks and I learned about the relationship of pieces of wood. By thickness width and length and I made these boards that have a one ah for thickness to None to width and None to length and I learned how they fit together not thinking of the dimensions as um. Metrics that we normally use like ah imperial or metric I thought of them as ratios and figured out how to put stuff and it wasn't until I held these boards in my hands and actually glued some of them together these tiny little ah ratio.

01:58:33.60

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah.

01:58:50.74

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:59:49.24

Max Shank

Ah, tester board like I I want to like give the other retarded kids who might feel like me some of these boards because it wasn't until I made these that I was like oh that's how you can factor in the thickness to join stuff together. But I so resonate with you because I also like to go deep into a topic. And if I just kind of ah glance through it I just feel stupid I feel so far behind it's it's it's Crazy. It's crazy how how like dumb I feel but then this is where it's cool because what you said is awesome. That is what allows you to have.

01:59:59.70

mikebledsoe

Ah, accurate. Well.

02:01:04.90

Max Shank

Compassion for others is when you're fumbling around and you're like God if I'm like this like maybe it's It's differently hard for other people to to do other stuff because you know words are tools also and most people um, not only talk shit but they talk like shit.

02:00:44.34

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

02:01:41.88

Max Shank

Can't express themselves very well at all and should you like blame them and shame them or should you recognize that they've just had this working pattern for a really long time and it really changes the perspective.

02:01:19.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

02:02:19.68

Max Shank

That was a good one.

02:01:38.88

mikebledsoe

That was a good one. Yeah, so so you're gonna fumble around listen to listen to people who have good track records and yeah, really I think one of the key points you brought home was pay attention.

02:02:30.16

Max Shank

Ladies and gentlemen.

02:02:14.22

mikebledsoe

Energy ins and outs and everything in between so people normally see how that you know they know how to put gas in the gas tank and they know to push the pedal and steer the car and that's usually where the knowledge ends and if you want to have a ah. Ah, deeper understanding of it I think that's a good way to approach it when it comes to money when it comes to cars when it comes to the plumbing in your house. Um, yeah, yeah I had somebody. You know, screw some up with the plumbing in my house I'm like how did you get? How did you do that? It's like you know you shoot and put that.

02:04:06.00

Max Shank

There.

02:03:30.34

mikebledsoe

There and they're like why I go oh because they'll get stuck down the pipe to today then they're like oh I didn't think about that I was like oh I realized they didn't think about the entire system of plumbing. They've existed on the planet for 30 years and never thought about it. But now they will um but ah yeah I think I think we. That's a good Let's get a little cap on this.

02:04:52.44

Max Shank

Yeah I I love it man um you want to step one understand the flow of energy and the path and the components involved and step 2 is you want to learn how to manage.

02:04:42.28

mikebledsoe

Um, a is it is.

02:05:28.98

Max Shank

That energy flow cash flow conversation flow um managing the flow of energy using tools in the physical world like on a piece of wood or managing the flow of energy using the tools called words to direct the flow of attention which is perhaps the most. Ah, powerful energy because it is full on quantum as it relates to our human conspiracy called language and um, you know use the right tool for the job you can significantly amplify the output energy versus the input energy using. Leverage and that that's that's it folks that was awesome I had so much fun talking about that today I had so much fun building shit I I built this box. It was indestructible for my buddy oners I called a strong man pinata I made him climb up a tree.

02:06:08.14

mikebledsoe

Beautifully said beautifully said. Yeah yeah.

02:06:30.54

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:07:26.76

Max Shank

To grab a sledgehammer and then I locked this box that I built and this box was like bombproof. It was like one inch thick plywood on all sides with 2 by 4 s reinforcing the inside. It was so fucking na he hit it like a none times and that. It would not break so I had to ah take it off the chains and put it on the ground then he could finally hit it against something but it was it was so much fun. Another box.

02:07:39.42

mikebledsoe

What was inside.

02:07:52.78

mikebledsoe

Um, very clever.

02:08:37.72

Max Shank

Ah, and then ah and then a little piece of paper with a clue. There was nothing for him except go to the next step in the but it was awesome. Ah, anyway it was. It was so good. Um.

02:08:09.48

mikebledsoe

Ah, oh so it's just a piece of the scavenger hunt. Okay, got it.

02:09:16.70

Max Shank

Anyway, Mike thanks for the the chat that was awesome I loved the way that we managed our energy today. Thanks everybody for listening catch y'all next week Mike where can they find you.

02:08:36.86

mikebledsoe

Absolutely absolutely yeah and find me on Instagram Mike Underscore Bloodso and just keep tuning in to the blood. So show now. Um None thing. Oh. And I also have a summit coming up if you go to http://thestrongcoach.com or shop dot thes strongcoach dot com you can check that out. Got a lot of cool speakers coming in to talk at that. It's a pay what you want. And lastly, if you're interested in how to. Manage your cash flow better just shoot me a dm I've got a little course I can share with you.

02:10:37.20

Max Shank

Cool man later folks.

May 26, 2022

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May 16, 2022

00:00.00

mikebledsoe

Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're gonna be talking about order and chaos. You know I think that there's a place for both and society as a whole likes to swing really really hard and me as an individual I do the same thing max. Thanks for joining for another Monday as we discuss topics that seem highly abstract and somehow try to get it to become practical for the listeners.

00:28.90

Max Shank

Yeah I think order and chaos could be the name of our show because it's really quite a chaotic ride I think it's an excellent train of thought that gets frequently derailed. But that's part of what makes it fun and interesting and not only do I think order and chaos are ah definitive of each other they define each other i. I think what you said is perfect. We we swing back and forth really hard from more order to more chaos and we try to get tighter control and then more freedom and ah you know more openness or more boundary setting and that back and forth ah can be. Can be really exciting and in societies actually None of the things that's really important about playing and especially wrestling roughhousing that sort of thing is understanding the line between fighting and play fighting and ah. Being able to introduce chaos in a safe environment because the whole purpose of society is to create order reduce chaos as much as possible so you need something to dose you. With chaos. So you don't become um a a sissy and sad.

04:01.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that and it yeah said I mean the like for me creativity happens after things get shaken up I think about um, no structure is the structure forever. Um, we the human spirit desires for change because we also live in an environment. Ah, ah, ever present change and um, you know we got to if we want to have some stability. We do need to set up structures in society. We need to set up structures in our own life. But we also need to recognize when it's time to assess and reassess these things and I think creating those safe spaces like you're saying where we can't introduce chaos in small amounts or over a short period of time in ah and a confined space. Ah. Really allows us to not have to go through really big societal bits of chaos which I think we're experiencing right now. There's when I think about rites of passage for young men that has been. Ah, regularly conducted over Millennia and it hasn't really happened in american society in the last few generations and so nature comes along and says hey um. Noticed that you guys haven't introduced any of this planned chaos. Ah you know a rite of passage for a man usually involves being out of control and and being needing to submit to the universe and. And usually facing death in some way or the acknowledgement of death and it can feel It's a big pattern interrupt and pattern interrupts tend to be a little chaotic in nature and when a society or an individual. Has been comfortable for too long in their order then nature is going to come along and shake it up because everything's always changing and we may be fighting to keep it the same but at some point the environment's going to break the the individual or the culture.

08:24.35

Max Shank

Yes, and you also sacrifice some of the excitement of life if you imagine someone who was born in a castle isolated from most of the world. There's going to be None of order. None exposure to chaos and they may live their whole life in that environment and then have a child of their own that lives in that environment but eventually ah just like the seasons change and ah different. Creatures Rise up and overcome in different parts of the ecosystem. Ah the people in power never stay up there for long and the more you try to create order the more fragile that individual becomes because they're not dosed. With that chaos and that stimulus because our bodies and minds are always adapting via the said principle. So We're always adjusting to what's going on. So if you have no exposure to Chaos. You will be much more fragile. Ah.

10:54.40

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

10:50.13

Max Shank

By by definition.

11:18.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah I'm listening to a book by Ray Dalio right now I think it's called the rise of the rise of nation rise and fall of nations or something like that and he he he's talking about the 5 cycles through a society and.

11:10.69

Max Shank

M.

11:24.51

Max Shank

Ah.

11:58.14

mikebledsoe

You know if you've read the fourth turning they they identify None cycles. He identifies 5 and these cycles last about 100 years or the the cycles last about 2025 years and there's 4 or 5 of them depending on which expert you ask? and basically what happens is it. Ah, you the society falls into ah each generation becomes more and more chaotic until it's unbearable and that everyone who's like and it usually ends in civil war and external war and then everybody says. Fuck it. We need. We need more order. You know the the economics are broken where everyone's fighting with each other It's it's highly disordered and then what you end up with is a whole yeah a whole generation comes comes along and is like starving for it. So they.

13:04.10

Max Shank

The big prick comes in.

13:19.11

Max Shank

Yeah, one and it's ah.

13:52.30

mikebledsoe

They're wanting I mean that that's basically how Hitler got the power right? Germany was experiencing an incredible amount of chaos and this guy says you know what? if you just do what I say then things will be better and and they were for a while. There's there's there's videos of like.

13:33.19

Max Shank

Exactly.

13:52.97

Max Shank

And it's frightening.

14:31.72

mikebledsoe

The the population gathering and arenas and exercising together. They were like very lockstep and everything was really good for a short period of time until the 1 person who was in charge decided to fucking go nuts and one of the thing.

14:34.17

Max Shank

Right? Where there's there's like a line where people are like you know we're really glad that this ah this dick really like got things under control. You know it was a little too chaotic I felt afraid there was pillaging and rioting and then that dictator. Crosses the line and everyone's like whoa, not like that and then and then it goes back to you know, just that did that to that to da today.

15:47.14

mikebledsoe

Um, well the the danger is is when you're when you're in ah and a highly ordered society like that the the amount of thinking by the individual is reduced because they don't have to make as many choices and so. They're less likely.. There's that slippery slope they're less likely to catch poor judgment from the top because it's been so good and just one value judgment at a time and next thing you know you're just killing a bunch of people.

16:15.69

Max Shank

Yo absolutely and you you can understand why that would attract people I remember watching this series. Excellent series. The dictator's playbook. The episode on Mussolini he's you know, given a speech from some balcony and he goes None italy None decision and everyone goes. Yeah, they are.

17:51.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

17:24.61

Max Shank

Onboard They want a so bad like None maybe hundreds. It's so many people and they were so excited that he's like look I will call the shots. You guys don't want to trouble yourselves with these minor details I will take care of everything and. If you've had a good lady or significant other in your life having someone make decisions for you effectively in ah is amazing like there are certain things like some. You have this comparative advantage where someone else now is responsible for stocking the kitchen stocking the bathrooms getting this taken care of like you know you have that division of management basically and it feels amazing. Like if you get the right person to make your decisions you are on Easy Street. It's just ah, absolute power right.

19:55.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well I think I think the the happy medium with that because I agree is is you know when you have for instance in the United States you have if you had None person if we had a dictatorship you have None person making the. Decision for 350000000 people. It's not possible for the human mind to be able to grasp the actual impact of the decision on on the individuals and this makes me think about Dunbar's number you know was a.

20:42.37

Max Shank

Oh.

21:10.94

mikebledsoe

Around None is about as many people as 1 person can keep up with in relationship after that you know people all kind of start looking the same. You don't make as much eye contact. You're not going to remember their names. You're you're not in community and this is why a lot of churches.

21:07.45

Max Shank

Oh.

21:49.94

mikebledsoe

What they do is they break up after they get to about 150 members and then another church will open up. Ah yeah, and so these like that most churches do that. But in some churches become megachurches and have 10000 members or something like that.

21:37.77

Max Shank

It's like setting up little franchises with limits.

21:56.53

Max Shank

Yeah.

22:28.92

mikebledsoe

And that requires a higher level of leadership and hierarchy hierarchy has to be built into the system in order for that to happen. So when there's and the same thing for Crossfit Gyms all these crossfit gyms sprung up a decade ago and we all watched it happen. It.

22:10.19

Max Shank

Right.

23:05.62

mikebledsoe

It was a very community driven thing and when it got about 150 members 1 member goes I could do this better. They go open another gym and then they pull some of the gym members away and it's it's just like church and.

22:53.27

Max Shank

Ah, crossfits are like church well said I agree there are a lot of similarities there I'm on board.

23:41.28

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, there's a lot of similarities. Yeah, but I think it's a really great demonstration of Dumbbar's number and that the person the person that I'm gonna trust to help.

23:29.31

Max Shank

O.

24:13.36

mikebledsoe

So make decisions for me right? There's somebody on my team and my company my girlfriend my close group of friends. You know, somebody's organizing a ah ah week long vacation I don't even ask me any questions. They just tell me how much money to throw in the pot and then I show up I'm okay with that. But when we start dealing with people I've never met before and have never met me and now they're making decisions on my behalf I think that becomes problematic.

24:31.63

Max Shank

Well, yeah I mean that's that's trust right there I mean who who you choose to trust is a really important choice choosing the right doctor instead of the wrong doctor. Choosing the right trainer instead of the wrong trainer right? Coach instead of the wrong coach and it's not that there it was an absolute good and an absolute bad.. It's just whether or not the resultant partnership or collaboration is gonna be constructive or not because. Some people respond really well to ah stick-based motivation and competitiveness and some people respond way better to carrot-based motivation and creativity and Non-competitiveness. So just finding the right? um. Partnership there like who do you trust with that area of your life is massive.

26:59.62

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and going into trust I think one of the reasons we're we're in a massive amount of chaos in our society right now is because there is a lack of trust you know nobody like like the trust of the media is an all time low.

26:43.99

Max Shank

Um, well yeah.

27:37.62

mikebledsoe

Politicians is an all time low you you ask the average american and they'll just be like yeah the the news and the the politicians are all full of shit. You know there's probably twenty thirty percent think it's still good. But.

27:25.71

Max Shank

Which I think is which I think is good I think ah like a skeptical society will actually come up with better solutions but trust saves Calories. Ah the whole Concept. Of a group is built on trust the the whole the whole thing is trust based ah fiat currency all these different things you're trusting that the person in charge is going to do. What's best for You. You're trusting that. Um. You know if you help out with the hunt that you're going to get some of the bounty from that hunt and that we're all going to be part of this unit. We're going to look out for each other.. It's like you scratch my back I'll scratch yours and having those relationships. Is the most powerful thing there is like I think of one of the best survival tools as a radical Rolodex So Just having the right array of people that you can call experts in different fields. But more importantly people that you trust to give you. Real solid Answer. So our whole response to bringing order into chaos bringing order out of chaos is based on faith or Trust. Ah, even if you take it from a religious standpoint. You are putting your faith or trust in a supreme being that we cannot see so it's all it's all trust you could say that? yeah.

31:12.48

mikebledsoe

Know or or you could say that that supreme being is everything and everywhere and you see it all the time. But yeah, that's what I say. Ah.

31:13.51

Max Shank

I'm pretty sure God is a butterfly. It's the butterfly God Yeah, the other all the other ones are not true I mean I'm pretty religious but it's definitely the butterfly god.

31:45.94

mikebledsoe

The Butterfly god.

32:04.78

mikebledsoe

There you go. So I I think I think back to like personal experiences with order and chaos and I watch I look at my own life and I watch my own self I'm one of those people that the pendulum swings pretty hard. I Think for some people the pendulum kind of hangs out in the middle for me. It's I go really deep into chaos and then really deep into order and ah, there's not a lot of time spent in the middle. But for me I think that helps with ah.

32:39.39

Max Shank

Go.

33:23.50

mikebledsoe

More progress is it's definitely not the less least painful way of going about it. But I find it's not for everybody but when I'm but everyone does experience that everyone goes to these cycles of order and chaos and the when I go into.

33:06.10

Max Shank

It's not for everybody.

33:59.68

mikebledsoe

Times of order what I see is a destruction of the structures. Ah that I had set up in my life previously. Whatever rituals or routines that I had previously were swept away So a really good example of this is I went I sold all my things.

33:32.25

Max Shank

Length.

34:39.80

mikebledsoe

Got down to two bags and went nomadic for a few years I really didn't have much of anything I left my books with some friends. Yeah yeah, dude I I did some crazy shit Um, during that time it was it.

34:20.60

Max Shank

Speaking of a rite of passage right? feels like a rite of passage.

35:15.32

mikebledsoe

I destroyed everything like I I left the business I had spent years building I ended up getting divorced I was traveling didn't have a home the level of novelty that was always present was so high that getting making progress on any None thing was. Was close to impossible including taking care of my own health and but it was a really necessary time for me to reestablish a new structure so I needed to I desired a.

35:29.75

Max Shank

A.

36:26.78

mikebledsoe

New structure so much that I had to I had to really flatten the building I had to rebuild some people are just renovating their house all the time I needed to it was a teardown say my life is a Teardown. Let's just go back down to the slab. Let's go down to the slab and then rethink the floor plan.

36:11.45

Max Shank

Ah.

37:05.66

mikebledsoe

And everything so the I think I think the reason yeah I think the reason people don't do that is because well when you've been living under 1 structure your whole life going back to the and rebuilding new floor plan. You have no idea what to do so there's there's the lack of.

36:39.21

Max Shank

Takes a lot more time to do that. Also.

37:43.52

mikebledsoe

Knowledge that can be scary for people to do that demolition plan and then the the knowing that man I I spent say None building this one house and now I'm just going to completely demolish it and start over I know that what I build next is going to be so much better. But.

37:35.91

Max Shank

Her.

38:23.36

mikebledsoe

That's a lot of work.

37:56.33

Max Shank

And absolutely and it's even ah, depending on. Ah how you're wired. It's more like choosing which limb to cut off because it's a part of you is like you're.

38:54.38

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

38:30.73

Max Shank

Your identity is wrapped up into whatever it is you have going on this marriage this business this habit this thing over here to like strip those away and start coming to the I I think. Crazy shocking realization that most of your like baggage and Bullshit was just thoughtlessly inherited just thoughtlessly and you you weren't like trying to inherit it. It was just Monkey See Monkey Do Bing Bam boom.

39:58.54

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

39:48.63

Max Shank

And you're like now I'm this and you get wrapped up into like I'm this and this is good cause I'm good and that's what I'm trying to say all the time. So why would you want to let that go in exchange for something that is unknown right? because that's what really scares people is like I'll take this from.

40:44.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and.

40:26.73

Max Shank

Familiar pain to the unknown that is like I don't know if it's a devil's bargain or a fool's bargain but it doesn't sound like a good deal and yet that's what most of us make is we'll take the familiar pain I'll take familiar pain again. Thank you compared to the unknown.

41:28.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, there's um I think in the landmark education they call it the winning strategy. So it's it's a strategy that you learn at a young age where you go Oh if I behave like this.

41:03.49

Max Shank

Ah, no yeah.

41:17.77

Max Shank

Oh.

41:29.70

Max Shank

Um, ah yeah.

42:04.72

mikebledsoe

Then this happens or I get to avoid this by being like this I get to you know my dad got mad at me 1 time for doing this. You know I'll never do anything that resembles that ever again and now you become now that that becomes part of who you are and forms the personality and it becomes a winning strategy and.

41:39.89

Max Shank

Totally.

42:15.71

Max Shank

Oh man.

42:44.80

mikebledsoe

And you end up and you get the reward at a young age and then you start collecting evidence for that being a winning strategy. Yeah, you're like oh and you're unable to see where it's not working because it's the only thing that's present. So this is what creates the blind spots.

42:27.79

Max Shank

Um, it's like heroin. Oh my god.

42:45.71

Max Shank

Man.

43:23.54

mikebledsoe

And the the winning strategy is something that is very difficult to let go because it is usually very responsible for a lot of success in your life like somebody may their winning strategy may be shit talking themselves and that's and they overcome it like the beside Navy Seal's name.

43:21.95

Max Shank

Yeah.

44:01.38

mikebledsoe

Who are ah David Goggins yeah I mean he's he's highly accomplished but he seems miserable as fuck and so he he seems like it is like like he's a perfect example. David Goggins is a perfect example of somebody who.

43:36.69

Max Shank

Goggins. Yeah.

44:41.32

mikebledsoe

Has a winning strategy. It's getting him some type of reward. But it's costing him so much in his life that he's completely unaware of and doesn't he doesn't value it because he hasn't touched it yet and yet I've met I mean I went through this myself I went from becoming successful.

44:37.30

Max Shank

When.

45:16.80

mikebledsoe

Shit talking myself and what I was trying to avoid versus you know, ah talking to myself like I was a how would I talk to a None ar old. Well, that's probably how I should talk to myself and so anyways going back to the the people are afraid to give up that. Winning strategy because they're afraid that if they let go of that piece that that piece of their identity. They're not going to be good at something anymore and being good at something is what's earned them. Love.

45:46.51

Max Shank

Oh my God It's like a tool. It's It's like you're setting down your sword before you waltz into the Dragons Den It's like when I was a kid I learned about lying now. Okay, lying is a strategy.

46:30.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

46:24.11

Max Shank

That has almost no limits to it in terms of what you can get for Yourself. You can get out of trouble instantly so I was lying all the time growing up as soon as I was able to get away with it I mean what's a better rush than that and there are all kinds of behaviors like that. That they work so you just keep doing them.

47:34.92

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah, they work and then until they don't right? and this is this is where you know, um when we did when in psychology when when we look at like stages of development and.

47:19.29

Max Shank

Until they don't.

48:13.72

mikebledsoe

What ends up happening is the the things that that move you into one stage of development will end up being the things that hold you back from the next and in fact, when if you look at say the the model of spiral dynamics for psychology and and human development is you're actually moving from. Um.

47:59.71

Max Shank

A.

48:52.36

mikebledsoe

More of an eye oriented to a we oriented but there's also a bit of chaos and order on either side of that as well. So it's more of a spiral so you got we and I so some stages are more we oriented some stages more eye oriented but then it's it's not ah, it's not a straight line back and forth. It's ah it's a spiral.

48:40.75

Max Shank

Ah.

49:29.10

mikebledsoe

And in between the eye and the we is is chaos and when you're making the transition and then you've got to bring the order back and so for people to want that chaos in their life. They usually have to be really unhappy with the way something's going on in their life. People when I think about this I think about ah people that have dysfunctional patterns of behavior and a lot of people I think think about oh I have anxiety or I have like some type of system a symptom that might show up in the Dsm um, Dsm whatever it is the. Psychology playbook of symptoms and diagnoses and they they think oh I've got this I'm suffering from this thing and that's the dysfunction. But it's not the best way to find dys function in your life is to just to see what's not working. What what do you desire to be different in your life but you can't seem to get there that to me that demonstrates that there's some type of dysfunction and usually people believe that there's nothing they can do about it. But once they get a hint. And they're just fucking sick and tired of this thing being true in their life. You're like you know I'm gonna do something about it fuck it and then they start digging deep and there's a lot of work to be done there but that that itself becomes chaotic because as you start making changes in your life. You basically have to start behaving differently for everyone else in your life. And they do not like that because they expect you to behave a certain way and that that creates relational chaos.

52:14.97

Max Shank

I Think of it in a very basic way which is you have momentum being a certain way and the easiest thing to do is just continue with that Momentum. That's the most effortless thing you can do. So your pain or discomfort needs to be proportional to the adjustment of your trajectory like you need to be dissatisfied or uncomfortable enough to overcome the momentum of living a certain way. And it's not until that happens that a person takes action. Otherwise why would they? it's pure law of least Action. We're going to do the minimum we can unless ah otherwise authorized from a higher order kind of function. And even that is going to be based on a ah big picture discomfort um with just letting things flow as they may. It's like ah I'm uncomfortable not doing this thing. It's it's too painful to not. Go to Mars anymore. It's too painful to not get a divorce anymore. It's too painful to not start a business anymore. Whatever it is. There's like it's different for everybody different pain threshold for different pain catalyst.

55:40.30

mikebledsoe

Everyone's got different rock bottom. Yeah, and that makes me think about our concept I I know I didn't create it. But um, the the feather I don't know where it came from the feather the break the Mac truck and if have I told you about this yet.

55:46.10

Max Shank

The feather the brick and the Mac truck. No no I told you this but why don't you go ahead and share it with everybody.

56:28.20

mikebledsoe

Are you.

56:34.76

mikebledsoe

Pretty out did I hear I didn't hear from you did you or did you are you the originator.

56:15.21

Max Shank

Go ahead. Just let let them know what it is. It's fine. Go ahead.

56:55.98

mikebledsoe

Um, so yeah, the the the feather the Breakke the mack truck. You always get the message very lightly in the beginning and most people ignore it then it comes a little harder and then it's a fucking mack truck and it runs you over.

56:51.95

Max Shank

Here. A e.

57:31.96

mikebledsoe

And think that the skill is learning to listen for feathers and so it's a it's a it's a it's about being more sensitive. Yeah.

57:23.75

Max Shank

Right? But you don't want to get startled every time you feel the wind either right? when there's nothing there. Yeah, you didn't get that for me for me. It's always been the wind the feather the brick and the Mac truck.

58:04.28

mikebledsoe

No, you gotta be you gotta be listening to the right thing.

58:23.54

mikebledsoe

The wind the feather oh shit oh shit, did you get it from somebody. Are you reading the same person or did you are you really an originator. Do you even know.

58:12.97

Max Shank

Now I just I just made the whole thing up I never heard of it until just now. But I thought it would be fun to ah, just throw that Monkey Wrench in there because because see for me. Ah I think.

59:01.42

mikebledsoe

Ah, the wind the fact. Okay, we'll throw in the wind now now we've got 4 levels.

58:52.97

Max Shank

It's it's like ah a hypochondriac. The hypochondriac is thinking. Everything is some health disaster and really they were just constipated or something like that and I think the line between Prudence and paranoia is a truly fascinating one.

59:33.18

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um.

59:31.55

Max Shank

Because everybody has a different idea of what is reasonable preparedness and responsibility like the ability to respond or not so it's It's really the same thing like what's the line between prudence and having like a very deep awareness.

01:00:11.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:00:09.93

Max Shank

Of what's going on around you and responding to the slightest stimulus so being a little I don't know hypersensitive versus like hyposensitive. It's ah it's an interesting thing.

01:01:04.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:00:41.87

Max Shank

So so like to kind of bring us back to that concept of the feather the brick and the Mac truck that what you're saying is change is or or like life. Let's say is giving you signals.

01:01:43.28

mikebledsoe

M.

01:01:19.51

Max Shank

And if you pay attention to the signal when it's really light. It's not going to cause you much harm. But if you if you wait the feather becomes a brick becomes a mac truck when it eventually just absolutely wrecks you.

01:01:57.20

mikebledsoe

Right.

01:02:13.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah, becomes more painful but also the amount of change that you're gonna have to make is probably more drastic so it's a double whammy you got extra pain and and additional work to do like I think about say somebody who is a.

01:01:56.33

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:02:52.68

mikebledsoe

A meth at it. You know if they're one weekend and they notice like oh I'm not getting good sleep I'm Jittery I you know I'm not paying attention at work or whatever and they and they go you know what? I've you know I'm gonna check myself into a clinic and I'm gonna kick this thing but then you got the person who's.

01:02:25.25

Max Shank

Ah.

01:02:38.41

Max Shank

For her.

01:03:31.22

mikebledsoe

10 years in you know they're missing their teeth like for them to be able to get their life back on track and get a job and all that is going to be monumentally more difficult.

01:03:25.91

Max Shank

Right? So going past the point of no return basically like how how hard it is. yeah yeah I mean David Goggins is a ah great example of ah.

01:04:07.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's a point you cross where you never getting back? Yeah yeah.

01:04:05.55

Max Shank

Someone who has just made such an impression on so many people I think you know he he just flipped total extremes right? Big fat guy boom now I'm a Navy seal running millions of miles. Oh my foot's broken.

01:04:55.40

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:04:45.43

Max Shank

Who Cares stay hard and I think that now that Persona has gotten him speaking of winning strategies. So now even if he did say you know what I think a more gentle form of exercise is really the right choice for most people because. You know, Actually you're going to harm yourself long term by just running through these injuries. Ah, he almost can't do that now because he has got this winning strategy as this character and I think he.

01:05:55.24

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah. Well, you know.

01:05:59.77

Max Shank

Wants to be that character for himself and for everybody else I think he's got to be thinking. Wow This is an amazing thing that I am doing here and I'm this guy for myself and for these other folks.

01:06:50.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think a lot of people are attracted to it because they yeah they're they're attracted to it and they want to do it. They want to be like it. But I think it's a it's.

01:06:37.95

Max Shank

Superhero shit. Of course it's attractive.

01:07:27.40

mikebledsoe

It's immature in a lot of ways you know there's there's somebody who I saw go through a transformation which was a gary banynerchuk and I don't know if he shifted I Never really heard him say hey I had a realization I'm changing the way that I'm speaking now.

01:07:14.71

Max Shank

He.

01:08:05.50

mikebledsoe

But I watched him shift over like a 5 year period of hustling rind. You know, get out of your mouth and maybe that his audience matured and he needed to shift his his message.

01:07:47.10

Max Shank

Ah.

01:08:00.99

Max Shank

He.

01:08:33.64

mikebledsoe

But it became more of like hey let's work smarter not harder like be kind to yourself all these things Gary Vaynerchuk I mean if you go back and watch videos from ten years ago and him trying to motivate a crowd. He's telling him to like you know, buck up, you know quit being a little bitch and now he's.

01:08:31.53

Max Shank

In.

01:09:09.56

mikebledsoe

He's found a little more kindness in in his approach. So I think there's a that's something that was working for him but he also was able to to mature beyond that hopefully David Goggins experiences the same thing I mean for his sake because I mean if you got to keep that persona on.

01:08:47.84

Max Shank

Right.

01:09:47.38

mikebledsoe

For the rest of your life. It's just hard to.

01:09:21.90

Max Shank

But maybe that feels like good for him. Maybe that's that's exactly what he's looking for he he won't be happy unless there's a ah, big physical challenge and you know who can imagine what it's like to live that guy's life.

01:10:22.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, who knows and there's a place for everybody right? like there's a reason that he's so prolific right now is because there are a lot of soft people that need to hear that message. They're probably sick and tired of being soft or like you know what I'm I'm fat too.

01:09:57.85

Max Shank

Is what I say. Ah.

01:10:21.19

Max Shank

Yes.

01:11:00.82

mikebledsoe

And I don't know what to do about this so you know what? like and I mean I am of the opinion that whatever, whatever the fuck gets you started go but my encouragement is it's never the whole thing get gets you started on being healthier.

01:10:33.47

Max Shank

Right.

01:10:55.17

Max Shank

Whatever gets you started on anything. Ah.

01:11:40.46

mikebledsoe

But you know it got fat shamed Now you're losing weight. Okay, but here's the thing is take it further yeah like take it get up take it further. You know I think people a lot of times. It's It's like.

01:11:22.69

Max Shank

You got fat shamed you got fat shamed.

01:12:15.30

mikebledsoe

The reason you're fat is not because it's not necessarily because you're not exercising enough or you didn't You're not I mean these are the the behaviors you're not exercising enough and you're and you're eating like shit but like there's an entire lifestyle that goes behind this that that needs to shift that doesn't need to be. Maniacal about food and exercise.

01:12:35.29

Max Shank

It's literally just using food as pleasure more than your activity will allow and the reason we do things like that is because we feel like there's something missing and we want to change our state salty sweet fatty cheesy bits. Will will pretty much resolve that immediately. It's not super long lasting but you know Obesity is just a drug addiction that has a really easy to see physical manifestation to it.

01:14:15.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:47.35

Max Shank

Right. Ah, it's It's like a lot of people are addicted to their phones but it doesn't make you £40 heavier. Oh you're you're addicted to your phone but this other person is addicted to ah like hostess cupcakes. That's we're not getting sponsored by them but just because.

01:14:55.26

mikebledsoe

Not yet max not yet.

01:14:30.53

Max Shank

Just because they're addicted to just God I Hope so sponsored by Twinkie. Ah, but yeah, if someone's addicted to hostess cupcakes instead of the telephone they get fat but it's you're still just. Pulling a pleasure lever to distract from being here and now basically right.

01:15:46.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah I Um, definitely use food as a little bit of entertainment and but you know what I've I've figured out how to use my entertainment food. Like I can get really entertained by my food without it being just outlandishly terrible and that I think that's ah, that's a good like like. For instance I eat like ah, a keto ice cream that doesn't have It's like the cleanest one I could find mammoth It's mostly just fat. With a tiny bit of sweetener supposed to just cream and by the way I mean just eating frozen cream by itself is so good. Yeah, and then and then I put put strawberries on it I put strawberries on it and then I put.

01:16:35.10

Max Shank

Don't don't eat that bad sugar. Don't eat that bad sugar fat Only sugar is bad for you. Don't eat sugar Listen there's a killer out there. It's sugar.

01:17:28.34

mikebledsoe

Raw honey on it. Yeah yeah, and then that'll usually beat whatever fucking dessert that's sitting on the shelf somewhere or even at a restaurant like it's actually tastier.

01:17:00.87

Max Shank

Um, very fancy.

01:17:20.81

Max Shank

Well, you know that's great that you have found a strategy that that works for you. Um, for for your mouth pleasure. Although.

01:18:03.82

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah I know it's not your your morning cheesecake that you like to start your day with.

01:17:54.75

Max Shank

I Do like to start with a cheesecake and mocha in the morning if the opportunity arises I'm definitely going to take it. Absolutely.

01:18:46.22

mikebledsoe

Ah, well ordering Chaos I.

01:18:20.35

Max Shank

So with the with the food is it about the mouth pleasure like the the flavor the chewing the swallowing the whole thing I mean that's what helped me like get a handle on the the food addiction I mean it's all good right. Is it that I like the flavor while I'm chewing. Is it like some deeper primal thing where I I just feel good that I'm putting stuff in my belly like there's this primal desire. That's like yeah food goes in this tube this way and then that's a good thing.

01:19:52.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well I think I think for me it um like I'm a low appetite person. So yeah, yeah.

01:19:39.73

Max Shank

How nice someone the other day said to me he goes. Ah I've been trying he was at he was at our gym he goes I've been trying to eat more and the idea of someone who had to try to eat more.

01:20:31.44

mikebledsoe

You know? okay.

01:20:17.41

Max Shank

Was so foreign to me ah eating more is my absolute default. Ah the concept of eating less food than I need or even just the right amount that I need is insane like every time I'm eating food I Want more. I Want hometown Buffet I want all you can eat sushi I Want a gigantic porter house with mashed potatoes.

01:21:34.54

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think I think what may be different between you and I is I've been obsessing over the nutrient density of my food since I was about 14 So it's um.

01:21:28.17

Max Shank

A.

01:22:06.66

mikebledsoe

Like yeah I'm in this constant search for the highest quality of what I'm what I'm eating now Super dens. It's a superfood and so the yeah.

01:21:46.59

Max Shank

That's why I just eat bullying cubes.

01:22:03.33

Max Shank

I Think we should try to make that a thing super concentrated beef essence.

01:22:45.88

mikebledsoe

Well, it's kind of like kale kale was like being sold as ah like a garnish for these buffets at Wendy's or whatever for for almost nothing and then it was listed as a super food. It was marketed properly and then ah.

01:22:34.83

Max Shank

Ah.

01:23:20.12

mikebledsoe

The fucking price of it skyrocket. We can do the same thing for Bullyon Cubes I think is somehow you know hate. It's.

01:23:01.79

Max Shank

That would be such an exciting thing to get like all these high level athletes just snacking on bullion cubes. Everyone starts carrying around a little beef pouch salty. Yeah.

01:23:43.38

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think it's a good hydration. It's more like a hydration tool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but ah yeah I think for me like I've always all I'm like this this quality freak about food and be and like I don't want it.

01:23:46.70

Max Shank

Here.

01:24:21.96

mikebledsoe

I could eat like a footlong Subway Club sandwich like I could do that like don't get me wrong I could do it but but it just it just doesn't like um, there's something about it I Just don't I don't feel satisfied in the same way and so.

01:23:59.59

Max Shank

That sounds good I like a good submarine sandwich.

01:25:01.60

mikebledsoe

When I'm eating higher quality foods like it does seem like it's harder to eat. It's like I get satisfied more quickly So I don't eat as many calories and then I'm also burning through a lot of calories in the day and then if I'm training which I am right now. Are you just the.

01:25:00.83

Max Shank

Then.

01:25:40.30

mikebledsoe

The appetite just skyrocket. But I don't I won't put down just anything So then I end up eating Keto ice cream with honey and strawberries at night.

01:25:17.83

Max Shank

A.

01:25:28.93

Max Shank

Yeah I'll I'll eat healthy food I'll just eat 3 times the volume of what I should eat. It's weird I'll be at a restaurant or something and they'll be like. Do you want any dessert and I'll look at the dessert menu.

01:26:12.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think I just have a small stomach some you know.

01:26:06.89

Max Shank

And I'll be like no but I will get another entree instead when it's like roughly this I Really like savory foods so we'll be out. It'll be like sushi or something they'll be like oh you want dessert and I'm looking the desserts I'm go think I'll just have more rice and fish and avocado and that kind of thing.

01:26:59.64

mikebledsoe

A ah.

01:26:42.61

Max Shank

Um, food Huh How about that.

01:27:13.82

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so going back to ordering chaos where we started. Ah I I think that what we're gonna be witnessing moving forward is a lot of people seeking order. There was I was listening ah to.

01:26:55.61

Max Shank

Order up.

01:27:16.30

Max Shank

A.

01:27:52.76

mikebledsoe

Gad sad god sad how do you say his name on Rogan the other day and it was talking about how some of the professors are starting to report that the that the new students in the college in the universities are. Really wanting a more conservative approach to things like they seem to be tired with you know all the the crazy shit around you know like they're being 72 different genders and and all that kind of stuff and so the ah.

01:28:26.15

Max Shank

All that shit is just all that shit doesn't matter. It's just about whether or not the discourse is violent or not I think.

01:29:13.46

mikebledsoe

Well I think that's part of the problem is it's it. You know it's obviously been violent people certain people aren't allowed to talk at universities because they get shouted out and basically forced out So that's chaos. That's that's people's emotional state.

01:28:57.53

Max Shank

Right? wild.

01:29:51.40

mikebledsoe

Overtaking their behavior becoming illogical and then are unable to you know have intepit discourse. So I yeah I think I mean if we look at if we look at what Ray Dalio says if we look at the fourth turning. We look at these things that these people who talk about. These cycles that are going on in the world and I think we're pretty getting pretty close to maxing out on chaos I mean I think the only thing that's more chaotic for for for the american public for for the.

01:30:19.51

Max Shank

Um, what whoa woa I don't know I'm still listening though but I don't know.

01:31:05.40

mikebledsoe

For the American Public's taste for things you think they can take more chaos. We'll see. Um, yeah I could see it going a little bit further I mean but the the only thing that's left is is now and.

01:30:58.23

Max Shank

Um I think of anarchy as chaos like anarchy is chaos that I mean that would be soak I Oh my God I think things like I don't think things are being run well. But.

01:31:40.16

mikebledsoe

No anarchy is different. So ah.

01:32:01.30

mikebledsoe

Boy here.

01:31:36.77

Max Shank

My gosh I think a lot of stuff is still running so smoothly so predictably in such an ordered fashion I mean I hope it doesn't get more chaotic and unpredictable.

01:32:22.40

mikebledsoe

Well well anarchy anarchy just means without a ruler and so it no without a ruler and so it has to do with.

01:32:06.67

Max Shank

Right? Well without without rule isn't it or just without a guy who enforces the rules then.

01:32:59.34

mikebledsoe

God.

01:32:36.89

Max Shank

No.

01:33:08.42

mikebledsoe

Ah, well if you define God by natural law like like gravity like like to me that is the the forces that have put been put in place to create physical order in the world which we don't need. Anyone to be in charge to do that right? like real laws are things that no person has to enforce and so you have natural law and then you have common law which is basically don't fuck with me and I'm not going to fuck with you right.

01:33:47.53

Max Shank

Right? But who's enforcing that is the question. That's what I'm saying So it's ah you know I think there would be a lot more people stealing each other shit if they didn't think there was some like repercussion.

01:34:22.64

mikebledsoe

Well people ultimately have to enforce it for themselves. Yeah.

01:34:43.68

mikebledsoe

Her maybe maybe well here here's wait. There is a reapercussion so here's an example San Francisco has riots how long do they last Minneapolis long fucking time. You know how long they lasted in Miami.

01:34:25.51

Max Shank

That the hired guns could lay in a long time. Yeah, not as long.

01:35:20.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah, about 36 hours and then it everyone went back to order and it's not because they put more police force out. It's because the the ah the police came out and said hey if you own a store on this street. You might want to come out with your gun. They basically encourage people to protect their own property because that's a state in which they honor property rights right? and then right and then but.

01:35:43.30

Max Shank

Which are the only reason we have all these rules in the None place.

01:36:24.58

mikebledsoe

But property rights aren't necessarily I don't think they necessarily have to be enforced by an outside entity whereas in California you have government officials that are impeding property rights so in 1 state you've got the encouragement of protecting your own property like we're not even going to do it. You do it.

01:36:19.49

Max Shank

Right.

01:36:32.53

Max Shank

Right.

01:37:03.90

mikebledsoe

And then in San Francisco they're saying whatever you do don't protect your own property or else we're gonna come after you, you know you can't have a gun if you shoot somebody on your property. We're gonna you're gonna be in trouble. So some people would say that San Francisco has got way more order or.

01:36:46.10

Max Shank

Right.

01:37:42.64

mikebledsoe

Whereas Florida seems a little more anarchist right? where they're encouraging when I think about anarchy it brings it down to there is a ruler and each person has to be their own ruler in which case. So we look at Miami and people would say oh we're just gonna let people kill each other but the the amount of damage that was done and the amount of deaths were really small because what happened was people came out with their guns. A couple writers got shot and killed and then everyone goes. Oh you can't do that or else you might get shot and killed and so they just don't do it anymore. So I think this is a good example of of the order being placed by. You know, an authoritative government is shown to be ineffective. So I think.

01:38:32.51

Max Shank

Um, well yeah.

01:39:31.30

mikebledsoe

Majority of order that's produced people generally want to be kind to each other people generally want to get along in all the research people avoid conflict. They don't They don't do these things they enter into conflict when they think they can be faceless and nameless and they're wearing a mask and and running through the streets.

01:39:24.49

Max Shank

Most people.

01:39:38.77

Max Shank

A.

01:40:09.94

mikebledsoe

With a thousand other people and they can blend in now they become that's chaos. That's that's that's the mob but that's not anarchy. That's ah anarchy would be everyone. There would be consequences. You're held liable for your personal stuff.

01:39:48.30

Max Shank

Um, a mob.

01:40:44.12

mikebledsoe

Just because everybody was doing It doesn't mean that you are um that it's okay to do it So There's a level of individual responsibility that I see that happens with anarchy and I think that this I think that anything that's not anarchy is actually a. It's an illusion because if we if we go up so we.

01:40:58.49

Max Shank

Well hold up every society is an illusion based on a unify unifying set of beliefs whether it's the tree spirit or an eye for an eye code of hamurabi or hey that guy with the big stick is in charge because he can beat up everyone else.

01:41:50.46

mikebledsoe

It's just it's a story.

01:42:02.26

mikebledsoe

Well well the big, the big stick guy is usually what people think about anything about anarchy is like it's like oh yeah, it's a power game right? It's like if everyone's just running around and.

01:41:38.50

Max Shank

Right? And we just do what he says. That's all.

01:41:56.53

Max Shank

Well it it is extra Well if there's no recourse if someone takes your stuff except for your own then everyone is going to have to arm themselves significantly more now I do think that would make a community.

01:43:01.74

mikebledsoe

I Think it would be a much more peaceful community as well.

01:42:33.81

Max Shank

Much much stronger been to Oklahoma I agree completely. Um, people would respect boundaries a little more I believe and if you think that you may get shot. You're less likely to go try to Rob someone unless it's really really desperate.

01:43:32.78

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:43:12.31

Max Shank

And even then you're more likely to go ask? What can you do you can beg borrow or steal if someone has something you want. You know you can work you can beg or you can take um so I think it has a lot to do with.

01:43:52.82

mikebledsoe

Now.

01:44:05.90

mikebledsoe

Or.

01:43:51.67

Max Shank

Fact that we can get our needs met relatively smoothly and I think if you had let's say a dis because I'm not a fan of how taxpayer dollars are managed at all because that's all government is it's all all of our pooled resources put to work by a few. Ah. Clever folks. But I think if you were to dissolve that whole system. Ah it would be a really shaky turbulent. Ah very chaotic adjustment period because the whole concept of. dollars and cents and retirements and everything would just completely collapse and all of these agreements based on that old system would also collapse so all of your existing contracts would basically be like I'm gonna just not.

01:46:08.66

mikebledsoe

Well, a lot of a lot of these structures are are corporate in nature and so these agreements and so any agreements you have with government I mean it's a corporate. It's an agreement between a corporation and an individual which is technically like unlawful.

01:45:43.21

Max Shank

Do that anymore.

01:46:13.47

Max Shank

Right? But those ah but those agreements are basically just for if you have to go to a court.

01:46:46.74

mikebledsoe

In a way. But.

01:46:56.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah there I got a I got a show coming out with Jesse Elder where he covers the whole going to court thing but the which I think will be interesting but I want I want to take this back to the the idea that that do we live. My argument is we already live in anarchy right? And so the I was thinking about this the other day is so there's a war between well I'm about to explain it. So everyone everyone thinks that there's a rule of law right? like the United States is like it's it's not ruled by men. It's ruled by law.

01:47:21.70

Max Shank

Why do we live in anarchy. Okay.

01:47:46.37

Max Shank

Sometimes.

01:48:14.78

mikebledsoe

And so that's that was that's kind of the concept of the United States it's not necessarily how it's resulted, but that's the concept was to to keep us out of trouble. But if we get outside of the United States and we go global. We have global anarchy right? the.

01:47:57.31

Max Shank

Right.

01:48:53.24

mikebledsoe

There is no. There is no authority that makes the countries behave So some of these.

01:48:32.10

Max Shank

Maybe oligarchy maybe more like an oligarchy than total anarchy like I think there's a lot of power centers and unions and allegiances that guide the flow of the world.

01:49:22.52

mikebledsoe

There are there are the um that that are a lot less oligarchies. Well depends on the oligarch like what system you're using can be less violent. You mean you could say that like Elon Musk is probably None of the most powerful people on the planet. Not probably He's more powerful than most countries. Ah and ah, but all the interaction with him and his stuff is is voluntary. So it's it's a less. He may be he may be in charge of people's minds in a way because he's deciding you know what? they.

01:49:54.17

Max Shank

Which is amazing. Ah, right.

01:50:38.78

mikebledsoe

They may be seeing because he controls that way, but it's not.. It's not overtly coercive or or violent. Um, but if we if we extrapolate out and we go what keeps these nations like what supersedes the nation you know and some people might say Nato UN. Ah, have all these different organizations where these countries send representatives and they jerk each other off for a few days and then go back. Ah these that the truth is is the only thing that keeps anyone from fucking with anybody else is the possibility of total destruction. There's an entire global strategy going on by each country On. You have a few powers that are trying to dominate. But there's all these allies that are created and rules and and and they're generating all this stuff but generally like if you I think people. People are under this false premise of there is law and order that's produced by human beings. But it's completely inaccurate because if we keep going to a larger Magnitude. We start seeing that there's nothing other than brute force and power that is. That is in charge and so in which case I say that that's truly just Anarchy. We already exist under it. But the problem is is we suffer under a ah like ah this illusion because people don't ah. Because they put their trust in the illusion. They never take personal responsibility. They never become their own ruler. They never make their own decisions. They never learn to protect themselves feed themselves provide for themselves and so they're putting the trust in something illusory that can change at a moment's notice. And put them out in the cold.

01:54:07.63

Max Shank

Um, yeah I I tend to think that all ah Authority matters are resolved that way with the threat of total destruction on a micro level and on a macro level. You know the.

01:55:06.22

mikebledsoe

M.

01:54:45.33

Max Shank

Way that individuals are ruled the way that countries are ruled the way that countries rule over each other.. It's always the threat of total destruction and you know self-preservation is a very powerful instinct and I think that's probably what drives ah countries more than anything. Is the self-preservation Instinct of the rulers.

01:55:59.64

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, gotta be I mean I think that's just everybody.

01:55:39.27

Max Shank

Keep the power get a little bit more keep the power get a little bit more because it never ends it very rarely ends well like the dictator doesn't like ride off into the sunset and be like hey guys I had fun oppressing the shit out of you. Thank you for letting me just go on.

01:56:36.86

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well when was the last time there was a dictator that like died of natural causes and everybody all the your country. The country was like oh yeah, ah.

01:56:14.47

Max Shank

Down the dusty road dude North Korea North Korea one of my favorite front. None of my favorite stories ever I another plug for dictators playbook. Very good series. The story of ah Kim il-sung. And then ah Kim Jong -il and now kim jong un none generation dictatorship pretty good for the modern era he is repressing the shit out of those people's ability to see information and see what other life is like he's smeared the hell out of the fat americans it's incredible.

01:57:29.64

mikebledsoe

Now. Yeah.

01:58:00.28

mikebledsoe

I need to I need to watch this. It sounds.

01:57:33.19

Max Shank

Ah, anyway, Kim il-sung dot died of natural causes. Kim Jong -il also died of natural causes. Kim Jong un maybe eating himself to death. But that's still a natural cause basically like it's incredible.

01:58:25.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well what I'm saying yeah but people aren't happy what I'm saying is like has anyone ah as a dictator ever like died and then everyone's like oh genuinely sad.

01:58:17.75

Max Shank

There is way less obesity in North Korea than the United States that's a fact that's a fact.

01:58:57.48

mikebledsoe

Did you did you listen to that? Ah interview Rogan did with um that North Korean woman who escaped at fucking crazy. Totally worth listening to.

01:58:44.51

Max Shank

Um, yeah I did it was wild. Loved it. Dude That's the history of the world is like awful awful stuff like that look at all the like torture shame the the um juxtaposition of. Art and war as ah, vessels for this oscillation between order and chaos is Incredible. We're making these beautiful pieces of art. We're you know, putting together quilts and nice things for people and medicines and then we have like these. Ah. Mechanical suppositories that expand up your anus as torture and you just have these like weird is such ah, an insane level of destruction and violent and then creation and cooperation and you know optimism. I Mean human beings are insane and then a few of them get really insane and are like I will lead these people and then and then I here's what I think happens I don't think this is going to be a very popular take but I think ah. Most of the most of the guys who went and did these insane things. It was really like the whispers of a lady that was driving him. You know what? I mean I think we we cannot. We cannot Blame. Ah.

02:02:04.24

mikebledsoe

Oh yeah.

02:01:53.57

Max Shank

White We We can't make white men the whipping boy of all the evil shit. That's ever been Done. You know ladies men of all colors of all creeds have oppressed people I'm sure that there were Queens who would tease their king about the size of his kingdom. And just nag nag nag him until he conquered the neighbors be like you call this a kingdom This is the tiniest Kingdom. That's what I think yeah.

02:03:07.16

mikebledsoe

I think that was like Alexander the great alexander the great. Yeah and what's her name or is it Ashley and I got this conversation the other day which was we we take we take like things that are really hot. Like unstable topics in society and then we debate them in the car and because she grew up in the bay where there's a very she grew up in a very left leaning view. So there's a lot of opportunity for me to ask her questions just had a curiosity is like okay how is.

02:03:38.67

Max Shank

Ah.

02:04:22.20

mikebledsoe

Okay, this is how I understand this situation. What's the okay, what's going on over there and she tells me I'm like okay have are those people have they considered this so no, okay, cool and so it's like it ends up in a interesting conversation. So one was um, we were listening to a show. They're talking about. Um you know, ah, ah, equity like equity amongst men and women for pay right? who you know men men generally get paid more money than women and so the feminist movement has been. Incredibly focused on money in in regard to things not being fair and so and so that was my that was my so we got in this conversation. so so yeah yeah so Ashley's like you know it's unfair and.

02:05:19.71

Max Shank

They already spend all the money. There are so many reasons for there are so many reasons for this I mean. Okay.

02:06:16.72

mikebledsoe

And I was like I was like well have we talked about all the contributing factors to why it might be that way and then the number one? Well the None thing that I came up with not came up with but like the None stat that we looked at was ah okay. So men make how much more money on average and women for the same type of work. Okay, well, who spends the money who who spends more money. It's like well the women spend 70% of all the money on.

02:06:44.45

Max Shank

But there there are like 10 different reasons that things usually are this way if it was so clear cut as like the Twitter sized argument would have you believe then every smart businessman would just hire women I would save.

02:07:45.74

mikebledsoe

Totally.

02:07:24.37

Max Shank

I would save 25% on my ah payroll and I would be because if it's the same job for ah 25% less money. You would be a fool not to do it. You would have just factories. You would only have women employees. It would only be women working ah like why wouldn't you why wouldn't you no no, it's it's stupid. It's just another distraction. We have so much more in common.

02:08:32.48

mikebledsoe

That's that's a really good point or because of discrimination people are are misogynist What it's It's ah it's a. Well the thing the thing is is people people will they look at the result and then they they that that's the explanation. Oh. There's not this so it must be.. It must be that that person that men are generally bad at you know that are generally misogynistic.

02:08:37.10

Max Shank

Ah, then we have different.

02:09:41.72

mikebledsoe

So There's this like the proof for a lot of people. The proof is in the the lack of equity versus getting into all the little things that might contribute to that and you make a really good point because you know what? if if I could get away with that I do the same thing and. And then you could like claim to be nobles like oh I I Only hire women and and in the background you know you, you're making more money That's not necessarily I don't see in the conversations I yeah.

02:09:53.91

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

02:10:09.43

Max Shank

It's just like a different type of sexism I mean I don't think I think more than people being like pro-man or pro lady or anti-man or anti-lady people are just selfish understandably. So. You're the only None living your experience. You're the only one responsible for it if you can get a few extra points of street cred for talking shit. Why wouldn't you I mean we talked about how effective lying is talking shit is so effective I mean do you think Tom Sawyer painted the fence. No. Sweet talked the other kid and said hey wouldn't you like to paint this fence I will trade you the opportunity of painting this fence for that shiny red Apple you got and so he's there eating the Apple while this guy is so happy that he now has the opportunity to build a fence so people are just. Selfish and they realize that they can talk to get attention and energy and that kind of thing instead of work and there are so many I mean my god we could talk all day about this like alleged discrimination between men and women. But um. This is a contest that nobody wins there's no way to win this discussion because it's like hey did you know that men kill themselves 4 times more than women they're like no I didn't know that is like well can you just like fucking eat the quarter and like. Not worry I mean we're dying 4 times as much at our own hand like is it really? So amazing. Yeah.

02:13:43.26

mikebledsoe

Well 98% of workplace deaths are men as well like I it's like is what.

02:13:27.69

Max Shank

But but that's that's the whole point is like people just do what they want to do that's all and quite frankly, you know if you're a lady you can just get really hot and nice. But if you're a fella I mean I guess you could do that too like you could be a cabana boy. Type of ah life strategy I've considered it I've done the entrepreneurship thing for a while but I've also considered what if I put the same amount of dedication to being like a really like goodlooking Kabana boy right? and just like teach yoga classes by the pool of some like rich lady. And my whole responsibility is just like oh a little more suntann for you I'll whip up a little ah sandwich for you there like that's totally a strategy and maybe I would earn more doing that than what I'm currently doing so. It's fine, but it's just that usually the way that a guy shows.

02:15:33.80

mikebledsoe

Maybe maybe.

02:15:21.39

Max Shank

Ah, dominance in the hierarchy is by making lots of money That's usually how it is and then if you like get the gender roles confused sometimes you have people chasing things that don't even feel good to them. They just do it because they think they're supposed to and that's.

02:15:54.00

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah.

02:16:21.18

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

02:15:59.83

Max Shank

I think that is ah actually really scary spent a lot of energy getting something that you didn't even want in the None place.

02:16:31.36

mikebledsoe

You know. Yeah Jordan Peterson was talking about a ah ah a concept that women are just generally more intelligent than men they they are generally have more opportunities at. Through childhood and adolescence and because guys tend to only be really good at None thing and then they throw themselves completely into it and engineering might be a really good example of this is men are were sport men men.

02:17:15.75

Max Shank

Or sport.

02:17:54.79

mikebledsoe

We'll use engineers for as an example, why do engineers get paid more than women. Well most engineers didn't do.

02:17:32.81

Max Shank

Well not, they don't necessarily. It's just engineering people get paid more than nursing people typically.

02:18:13.58

mikebledsoe

Well well why are there more male engineers than female engineers This was this was this was the question being talked about and now I'm gonna give it to you but but the the the thing that he was proposing is that.

02:18:00.59

Max Shank

Are you looking for an answer. Are you going to give it to me. Okay I have ideas.

02:18:51.76

mikebledsoe

Women have more opportunities through their youth because they're generally more intelligent and don't dedicate themselves wholly to None subject whereas men tend to be a little less intelligent and in a broad and a broad amount of subjects whereas. And it has less to do with like level of intelligence versus being able to be intelligent at a lot of things versus just None thing so men at for a lot of engineers. They they sucked at english history. All the stuff that wasn't mathematics. But then there's a lot of women who were pretty good at mathematics. But they were also really good at english and. History and all these other subjects so there wasn't this this force of focus in order to be become valuable. So I think that between between you know, if you look at just math mathematicians out in the world like the highest levels are men but.

02:19:57.17

Max Shank

Yeah.

02:20:47.10

mikebledsoe

Women are generally if you were to look at the averages. The average woman is better at it than the average man but men tend to to live more at the extremes when it comes to these things and so that person's more likely to get to become a high paid engineer than the average woman and so.

02:20:34.29

Max Shank

I see ah.

02:20:48.79

Max Shank

Um.

02:21:26.68

mikebledsoe

Um, because women have the argument he was making is because women have more opportunities than men they actually may not get completely focused into a ah vocation. That's gonna pay really really well and the other thing is to the point you were making earlier is. Men are generally generally ah judged on their their finances and their financial success and women are generally ah their status comes from being beautiful and so if you're a woman and and.

02:22:05.31

Max Shank

Or the or the niceness of the Shark cuttery board that they can lay out.

02:22:45.48

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah for that that would be the case for me my girlfriend won me over with sharuery boards.

02:22:24.29

Max Shank

Like for a like party planning like that's ah that's a skill that among the other ladies I don't think I'm being crazy here. That's a skill where everyone else would be like man look at that meat and cheese plate. There are dried apricots on there that looks that looks amazing right.

02:23:20.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but but if you're a woman and you have many different interests and you don't dedicate yourself into a single field and then in the background. There's also this the majority of your focuses on status that involves beauty as well. So you have this social.

02:23:26.97

Max Shank

Oh right.

02:23:58.20

mikebledsoe

Social pressure being beautiful and then you also have a lot of opportunities academically and then you got guys are like you know I just got to get good at 1 thing and they just throw themselves at it and so that that's 1 explanation of like why there might be some discrepancy.

02:23:51.85

Max Shank

I Think it's I think it's even simpler I think that men and women generally get pushed a certain direction and guys who might naturally be more creative. Get funneled into something that is more utilitarian and women who might be more math and science and technology oriented might get diverted off toward like barbies and art and that kind of thing. Because I think that's just the the natural momentum of our culture is that girls do girly things and guys do manly things and so it's just when there's an intersection of your preference. However, that was derived and your ability.

02:26:18.54

mikebledsoe

I Mean that's generally true.

02:25:55.17

Max Shank

Yeah, and that's also why ah you know nurses are typically women and they're a little bit more nurturing and interestingly enough I think it's a really interesting. It's an interesting example because I think that is. Ah, much more difficult skill to replicate with technology this idea that you'll be Able. You'll be able to diagnose with a supercomputer with I would imagine tremendous accuracy but the.

02:27:10.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, not possible.

02:27:05.50

Max Shank

The bedside care and the nursing and that sort of thing seems really hard to replicate with ah with tech I think Ais are gonna doctor it up and the nurses there's just gonna be a bunch of ladies doing a great job. Um, you know.

02:27:46.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the ai is going to do that anytime soon.

02:28:10.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well there, there's um, well that.

02:27:43.61

Max Shank

Talking and listening chatting doing skills. It's a high so that's that's and some things just don't get rewarded very well like nursing holy fuck. Okay, that's the perfect example I think it seems like None of the hardest jobs around you're in a pretty scary place all the time. Working pretty tough hours with difficult people quite frankly, right? and and you're like getting okay money. It's like okay but talk about difficult.

02:28:57.52

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

02:29:08.40

mikebledsoe

Now Now incredibly yeah I wouldn't want to do it. It sounds terrible.

02:28:59.53

Max Shank

I Don't even like being in hospitals. It's like my one of my least favorite places.

02:29:38.28

mikebledsoe

Yeah, let's wrap this bad boy up where we.

02:29:17.65

Max Shank

Okay, so today's show was called chaos we tried to bring order to it but we just couldn't figure out a way to put it in there. Ah ah well they define each other.

02:30:09.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, we didn't really talk about order much.

02:29:57.50

Max Shank

Right? We talked a lot about the hierarchies in society I think that order can bring a lot of peace to your life. Um, so maybe the the takeaway I would wrap up with is. Dose yourself with some chaos do some? Ah do some tough conversations with someone have like a heated debate and do some roughhousing and playing that is introducing chaos in ah in a safe environment and then you know bring. Bring order into your life by trying to automate as many things as you can to make your life easier. So maybe there's those None things what I would say keep it practical.

02:31:54.12

mikebledsoe

Know well sudden. Yeah, but both are necessary. Nothing to be Judged. You know having order and not good or bad chaos. Not good or bad. Both are necessary for the development of culture. It's necessary for the development of human beings we go through these phases. And I find that it's it brings a lot more peace when you're in when you can acknowledge what phase you're in and go oh it's a little chaotic if I want things to be different and you know what's the order I want to create and just being being aware of these things can help you move through things a lot more. Smoothly max where can they find you.

02:32:55.55

Max Shank

http://maxshank.com or at max shank.

02:33:27.90

mikebledsoe

Check me out Instagram at Mike Underscore Bletso and you can check out things at the http://bletsoshow.com I also got a summit for the coaches coming up in June if you want to check that out. Go to shop dot destrongcoach dot com. But y'all loving next.

02:33:42.73

Max Shank

Bye later.

May 12, 2022

Ben Greenfield is a leader in the health industry. He’s spent most of his life building his business… and lately, he’s been committed to being the best father, husband, and man he can be 

 

He’s learned a lot about both along the way, and in this episode, he shares his best insights into how you can do both for yourself

May 9, 2022

00:00.00

Max Shank

Welcome back to Monday mornings with max and Mike Today we're going to talk about the easiest way to improve your life and that is your environment your environment includes people. Your environment includes the physical space physical objects. The actual climate or weather and not only can you perfectly adapt to the environment you're in but actually 1 of the easiest ways to change is just to change your environment and that's one of the reasons that joining a community of. Healthy fit people is by far the easiest way to get healthy and fit yourself because I believe in the 5 monkey rule which is that you become most like the 5 people that you spend the most time with so let's talk about. Environment how to adapt to it. How others have adapted to it in the past and how you can also change it completely which is a very amazing talent. Mike thanks for joining me again.

01:07.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, this is this is a fun topic topic because um I was at a talk couple weeks ago at an event and this guy was talking about the 3 things that that drive change and ah, you're. Changing your environment and the people you're around your community is by far the least stressful and the easiest to comebine and can have the you know, easiest long-term effects. The other two is people make change when the first one is when people make change when something. Horrible Happens. There's something traumatic that happens or like they they had a blind spot and then all something you know someone goes into the doctor and they got holy shit you got diabetes or you got cancer. It's like oh fuck and then you realize that your your you know your life is finite and oh I had better make a change. Ah, that one that finding change and creating change from that place. Not a lot of fun. Um, that one's yeah pain pain and suffering. Um and then the other one being the other one you could do is strategic.

02:09.57

Max Shank

Um, so that's like pain motivation the motivation of pain hunger pain desire Very synonymous.

02:22.51

mikebledsoe

You know someone might go hire a coach and then we create a strategy for maybe do some mindset training or whatever it is on how to get you to change your behavior or your lifestyle just by creating a strategy That's also very difficult. It takes some willpower which we'll say for later time.

02:40.85

Max Shank

Well, it takes proportional desire to the activity that they're willing to undertake I think having a more tactical approach that may include hiring a coach and coming up with a more concrete plan is a great way to go about it. Use your rational mind.

02:41.78

mikebledsoe

But.

03:00.41

Max Shank

I would say that the desire comes from kind of the same place. You feel a lack of health or a lack of community or a lack of confidence or a lack of something and there's some feeling there that makes you go You know what? Not only do I want more but I think it's possible that I could.

03:19.18

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and so and changing your environment and your community. It's by far the easiest that's that's 1 reason that I run my coaching business the way I do and I suggest other coaches do the same which is make them community oriented have people going through the process together.

03:20.23

Max Shank

Get more.

03:38.23

mikebledsoe

Because it does normalize things. You know if you're hanging out with a bunch of people who are running triathlons. That's gonna become a normal thing for you to do if you're playing with hanging out with a bunch of tennis players you be playing tennis if you hang out with a bunch of musicians. You're probably gonna pick up an instrument and. It's going to be almost automatic in a lot of ways. So It's going to be easy. Super super easy.

04:01.14

Max Shank

It will be easy I Think that's an important point that I would like to I'd like to stop at the definition station real quick about the word easy because in.

04:14.12

mikebledsoe

But here we go again.

04:21.14

Max Shank

In practice. Ah easy is something that you that you want to do easy is something that doesn't require a lot of time perhaps but I think difficult and easy are more defined by whether you want to do it or not. I think people find it very easy to do something. They love pretty much all day long so they would be willing to spend a hundred times more effort because it doesn't feel like they have to force themselves to do it because the activity itself is intrinsically enjoyable. And if you join a community that is playful with their goal achieving like there's a lot of playfulness in some entrepreneurs and that is ah maybe a defining characteristic of the ones who do much much better is it's a fun exciting game. That they want to play not not just because they want to purchase a boat in the future but because that game is exciting to them so there's that intrinsic joy in the activity itself that makes something easy. I think I think that's what makes it easy is if you want to do it.

05:34.90

mikebledsoe

Absolutely absolutely yeah I think they as humans we tend to adopt the the desires of others when we're in a group or we choose the group based on our desires or at least we can I don't think that's what happens when we're young and growing up and we're. Pretty much forced to hang out with whoever's in our you know whoever our parents decide to put in our geographical you know sphere. But um, you know some of the some of the easiest changes I've ever made was when I moved locations. Um I.

05:59.94

Max Shank

Um.

06:12.61

mikebledsoe

You know there's so many benefits. Yeah I tell people all the time is if you're gonna if you if you're gonna be moving make a list if you're gonna move. Especially if you're moving to whole new New city. But even if you're moving to a new house or apartment or whatever it is. That's when.

06:13.39

Max Shank

It's a big shakeup. It's a big shakeup.

06:29.60

mikebledsoe

You can introduce new habits most easily because everything in your life is changing so I'll use up. The big thing is if you're moving to a new city. You're likely gonna be hanging out with a whole new social circle and ah, which means that you could either if you if you're not. Intentional about it. You probably end up hanging out with a lot of the same type of people you were hanging out with and you're gonna end up recreating. You know a similar lifestyle of wherever you were so that saying of no matter where you go or wherever you go, you will be there and so what i. What I've done intentionally is when I've landed it in a new town I know that those people they're not going to be judging me on my history because they don't even know it anyone? um anyone we ever interact with is seeing us for for the entirety of. The time we've known each other like when I when I see you max you know I think what we met probably six seven years ago maybe six years ago I'm thinking um I'm basically thinking of max over that entire period of time and probably the things that I was introduced to you initially are gonna stand out.

07:32.97

Max Shank

And.

07:44.50

mikebledsoe

The most and so as you can imagine. Yeah, if you if you live if you live with your you know with your family or near your family. Your family are they're gonna treat you like your a little kid because they knew you as a little kid and so that's.

07:44.96

Max Shank

Like a first impression.

07:57.80

Max Shank

And you'll probably act out that role just the same as you have always been acting out that role.

08:01.92

mikebledsoe

Totally totally. So every time I've moved I've had the opportunity to upgrade my identity I can I can then decide I'm gonna be someone who you know the person the next iteration of myself that I want to be and I can.

08:10.77

Max Shank

The.

08:20.80

mikebledsoe

Consciously choose to present myself to new people in that way and I can be careful about the people I surround myself with who are the people I surround myself with now and it's not same people same type of person that I surround myself with before now. It's not. Dramatically drastic changes. But there are some small changes I've noticed as I've gotten older I've I've shrunk The friend circle quite a bit and gotten more selective because I see you know how influenced how influenced I am by the people.

08:39.53

Max Shank

Further.

08:57.19

mikebledsoe

I surround myself with so if you want to make a change and you want to you know, moving to a new city that I don't think there's ah, a quicker faster easier way to do it Although that may sound like a big fucking deal to somebody because it is but I think that.

09:07.57

Max Shank

Oh.

09:15.44

mikebledsoe

Moving to a new city is you know, logistically maybe difficult but from a making change perspective so much easier.

09:22.61

Max Shank

Yeah, it definitely will shake things up in a big way. Ah, one of the reasons I like talking to new people is exactly what you were talking about I Love talking to new people because I don't know what I'm going to say. And I try not to be too attached to the way I think about things So I I try to really take a conversation as it comes and what I find really interesting is sometimes I will surprise myself with what I say. To a person that I've never interacted with before and it's it's because it's just a different um Interaction. You know this person has no clue who I am I don't have any clue who they are and I'm only bringing what I think right now I'm not necessarily bringing what I thought. Last year. So I'm excited to see like oh this is a really different way that I'm answering this question than the way I used to answer this Question. So I think every time you meet somebody new at least in my case, it feels. It feels different because I'm in such a state of.

10:26.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, no.

10:38.30

Max Shank

Ah, flux.

10:39.13

mikebledsoe

Yeah I agree with that. Yeah different people bring different parts of us out and I you know we're talking about the community. The people you surround yourself with but there's a lot of other environmental factors aside from the people we're surrounded by that impact. How we live our lives. Um.

10:57.61

Max Shank

Well hold hold on before we go on though. Let's let's hone in on the the people thing because I think you want to understand the difference between thinking there are like good and bad people versus there are complementary people. And there are ah mutually destructive pairings so there are like complementary pairings and there are mutually destructive pairings but I try not to think of it like oh this person is better or I'm better and they're worse I mean you could make that argument certainly that some people are better and worse.

11:35.78

mikebledsoe

I Think most will do.

11:35.82

Max Shank

And many people do. But I think of it more like yeah and ah, of course we don't really know what their experience was like so it's such a slippery slope because then you got to like what think their parents were bad or their parents' parents were bad. It's like where does the blame. Really end with the goodness and badness of our Fellows. So I Just think about the fact that there is a different interaction happening. You know, like musical notes you get this note and then this other note you play them together and you get. Ah. A certain frequency and then you meet someone slightly different and the whole interaction is completely Different. So I think the way people interact with each other ah really sets the tone for relationships in a.

12:14.43

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

12:28.21

Max Shank

In a monumental way so you can be ah playful in Conversation. You can be playful in movement and sport or you know I'm not sure what the opposite of playful is maybe like stiff or like. Hateful Almost I'm not sure I'm not sure what would the opposite of playful would be ah but you know what I'm saying like the interactions with other people are so big in how you evaluate and interpret your life that if they're if they're not playful if they're not loving then.

12:50.57

mikebledsoe

I'm trying to think of it. Now.

13:07.75

Max Shank

Ah, you you it. It can be a real problem and sometimes carving it out is really uncomfortable thought for people but it's not like the other person's bad and I'm good. It's just like this this pairing doesn't work together.

13:15.87

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

13:22.67

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and and those pairings may not work. They may work together for a period of time and then they don't and it doesn't mean Yeah, ah I've definitely experienced that. Um, that with my my ex-wife even that was there was a period of time where that worked great and then there was a period of time. It stopped working.

13:28.20

Max Shank

Oh yeah, a lot of stuff works for a while. Um I mean if we're talking about. Love Yeah, if we're talking about love. Ah, if we're talking about love and romance I mean my lord.

13:42.16

mikebledsoe

And it served both of us to to walk away. Yeah, what are the antonyms for be sad.

13:47.63

Max Shank

Could be sad.

13:54.00

Max Shank

Be sad and work Those are good opposites so that's.

13:55.89

mikebledsoe

Be sad and work that makes sense.

14:03.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

14:06.40

Max Shank

That's big I think drawing clear boundaries about what kind of interactions you are going to participate in sometimes it is better to just like take your ball and go home play with yourself.

14:14.52

mikebledsoe

I like to I like to extrapolate on these types of things and that you know as above so below you know things that are happening at the smallest level are also happening at the largest level and when I look at say a relationship between 2 people. We can ah extrapolate that out to interactions between different cultures. We could say you know 2 different countries. You know you got a culture over here and that has certain values and you have a country over here. It has certain values and these countries may get along really well these two groups of people.

14:37.49

Max Shank

Um, so it.

14:51.70

mikebledsoe

Me say countries because I think the whole idea is going away but the yeah these two groups of people are either getting along or they have a lot of conflict and I really I think about this a lot and then also what.

14:53.78

Max Shank

At groups.

15:08.32

mikebledsoe

But I like about looking at culture more and large groups of people was I think it's ah easier to see what has created the way that they are as ah as a culture. So I really like to look at the Eu. The european union is a really good example of this and so. What you have ah is you have a lot of the countries in the north and you have a lot of countries in the south that have all they all said you know what we're gonna try to get along. You know we we haven't tried to kill each other in like you know a few decades. So maybe we should you know. All fall under the same currency and you know give each other a pass on the passport thing and all the things that happens with the european union but what happened in the last decade yeah I think was that the the euro was probably what a decade maybe 2 decades old I forget how long it's been around.

15:49.80

Max Shank

Ah.

16:07.86

mikebledsoe

I Think it's been around like 20 maybe a little more than 20 years at this point nonetheless. Um, they basically took all these countries and they put them on the same currency and so some countries whose value of their currency was low automatically got propped up really quick. And in some countries whose value is really high got brought down really quick and what you ended up with was it tan be yeah oh yeah, yeah I thought you're talking about the discrepancy but the yeah.

16:28.61

Max Shank

Right? It's like a marriage it I mean it's like a union you know, know that that's what I'm saying that too I mean in a. Ah marriage or in a business partnership or a union of countries or big groups. Um, you know there's there's give and take and yeah.

16:54.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so so I mean what? what ended ones up ends up happening this this really is a interesting study for me and what ends up happening is you have places like Portugal greece who especially Greece I think from what I understand. They went from being like ah you know, not that wealthy of a country to hopping on the euro and then all of a sudden people didn't have to work much anymore because they were instantly more wealthy and so there was a little less work that had to be done which in Greece there.

17:22.13

Max Shank

Um.

17:30.80

mikebledsoe

They're they're not. They don't work as hard as say the Germans So I think we can look at that's exact. That's what that's what yeah, that's what I'm getting at yeah is when you look at the northern countries in the European Union These countries are very good at planning.

17:34.17

Max Shank

Um, pretty different climate also interesting to think about? yeah.

17:48.93

mikebledsoe

They're very good at saving. Um and they're there's they're way more strategic in a lot of ways whereas when you look at the southern countries you look at italy you've got portugal. You've got greece all these countries life is good. 24 7 3 65 the necessity to think ahead is just so much lower like why would you? you have you have generations of people that didn't really have to think ahead more than a day or 2 and then yeah.

18:16.68

Max Shank

It's in.

18:20.62

Max Shank

Yeah, let's go fit. It's fine. Let's go fishing. We'll be all right? It's fine. Let's go fishing.

18:24.91

mikebledsoe

And exactly and then you have the swedes who if they don't you know it's It's winter is coming. Yeah, it's it's June and they're doing everything they can do to you know, prepare for something that's months and months away.

18:31.48

Max Shank

Winter is coming.

18:41.56

Max Shank

Well and you get the opposite side of the spectrum too when you go to the middle of the freaking desert where it circles back to now it's a different type of harshness of climate and you need a different set of wisdom that is still ah forward thinking.

18:51.26

mikebledsoe

In here.

18:58.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, collecting water.

19:01.50

Max Shank

And I think it's so yeah, it's so fascinating to look at like the Island Lifestyle because that's what we think of when we think of chill vibes. We think of a beach with palm trees and people.

19:17.51

mikebledsoe

This shit happens near the equator.

19:18.47

Max Shank

Taking it easy that that but not in the middle of the desert very severe there. It's just where there's like a union of sunny weather and water and food and it doesn't require a lot of.

19:25.55

mikebledsoe

You're right.

19:36.62

Max Shank

Harsh planning. It doesn't require ah an insane amount of ah like shelter ah manufacturing elegance either. You know.

19:44.58

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, and so like but and this really gets my interest a lot because it really highlights how different groups of people can be and how different individuals can be and. You know when people talk about you know, global currencies or they talk about trying to bring everybody under a standard set of rules and I immediately go you I don't if you if you want to do that I don't think you really understand how this shit works because we. If we try to bring everyone on the same standard. We don't need everyone having the same architectural standards in Hawaii as we do in Maine these are different architectural standards. These are different currency standards. There's these are all very very different and the result in the year Eu was Germany had to come in and bail out Greece basically and there was there was a lot of people that had a lot of feelings about who really should belong in the eu and should they should they build these countries out because they really just had a lack of planning so in my opinion.

20:53.60

Max Shank

Little little more accurate agreement ahead of time a little more clear operating agreement to go on what if this happens what if this have you know some contingency plans right? And and I think yeah.

20:59.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, but yeah, so this was a number of years ago, but it you know things have yeah I don't think things have gotten that much better.

21:15.29

Max Shank

Whenever whenever you're trying to solve something where you think it's really really urgent. You typically don't think forward as many consequences of that band-aid like the quicker you are to slap a solution on you're like okay, everybody drop everything.

21:25.25

mikebledsoe

Right.

21:33.14

Max Shank

Got a solution and they're like but what about what happens next month we can't we don't have time for that. We just have to do this thing right now and next month comes around. You're like hey that solution ah of eating all of our food and burning all the oil. Ah. Is really fucking us over now we we all agree it seemed like a good idea at the time.

21:58.35

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, but but getting back to is you know? ah your environment where you where you grew up what culturally you know if you had parents to grew up in Russia that you might have an attitude of being a little more um, is it called.

22:07.99

Max Shank

Any.

22:17.27

Max Shank

Severe austere. Yeah.

22:18.33

mikebledsoe

Ah, austere. Yeah, you might have a little more austerity and built into your culture I I have a friend whose family's from the Ukraine and and he moved here when he was about 7 and you know he still has that that you could tell he's still got a little bit like you know we got it. We got to save up for winter type of thing even though we're in Austin Texas.

22:39.80

Max Shank

Tote Yeah and some people have that to a much greater degree and some people have that to a lesser degree. Some people. Ah you know don't have any food at home and feel totally fine and some people don't feel safe unless they have a multiple year. Supply of food at home at all times and that's that's a huge spectrum.

22:58.70

mikebledsoe

My my girlfriend thinks I have my girlfriend says I have food scarcity issues the ah but the more not and I never thought about it I never thought about it in the context of this conversation because now I'm going. Oh um, I'm extremely.

23:04.40

Max Shank

Yeah, um I don't know if she is.

23:17.82

mikebledsoe

Fair skin probably from the north where people had to plan for this. She's she's a quarter Nicaraguan half Mexican and has some European Eastern European in her but like she came from where the the water was flowing and the the sun was abundant.

23:19.16

Max Shank

Ah.

23:36.43

Max Shank

Dude just tell her she has ah equatorial privilege or something like that and see how that goes over you'd be like. Okay, yeah, you guys you guys have a dance festival. We have a farm to tend to.

23:41.00

mikebledsoe

Um, I'll bring that up in the next conversation we get in about such topics.

23:51.36

Max Shank

And some silos that need stocking you guys enjoy the dance festival. So.

23:54.37

mikebledsoe

But ah, but I think a good example of this also is you ever watch game of thrones. So what was what was the attitude of the people from the north and lots of discipline you you do what you say and you say what you're gonna do and.

23:59.66

Max Shank

Oh yeah.

24:05.44

Max Shank

Um, is about as austere as you get is harsh.

24:14.15

mikebledsoe

There is a level of honesty that's necessary because life life was on the line all the time.

24:18.42

Max Shank

And then in the south. It's like orgies and you know just free wheeling and dealing kind of lifestyle down there right? and you know there's a lot of I mean it's a story right? But there's.

24:28.62

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah.

24:37.98

Max Shank

Ah, guile and lying and backstabbing in all climates. But the austerity of the frozen north versus the temperate tropics is is plain as day in the real world and also in Tv shows.

24:41.40

mikebledsoe

Right.

24:51.91

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, you're hang out in Jamaica they're they're so relaxed. Well, that's a thing is like I I from hanging hanging out with people who are from the tropical regions and being living in San Diego for a while taught me how to relax I was like oh I just need to chill the fuck out or um.

24:55.86

Max Shank

Oh my god Bahamas is.

25:12.23

mikebledsoe

Stressing myself out. There's something to learn from both.

25:15.10

Max Shank

I Think it's ah wise to do it animal style which is you're either um, like resting or you're focused. You're just focused on what it is. You're doing So I think it's.

25:27.50

mikebledsoe

Um.

25:32.82

Max Shank

Really valuable to um work on a project and really devote yourself to something but all of the the feelings of. Your worthiness attached to your suffering ah that like puritanical shit is probably not very wise. So if you can really party ah like Carnival but then plan like a frozen ah farmer in the tundra then ah. I Think you'll probably find pretty good success and also um, a really enjoyable social life and lifestyle.

26:15.34

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you get the best of both worlds I mean and it's 2022 so really good to choose that. Even if you live somewhere that does get cold in the winter when you have a heater and you have cars with with heated seats and all this yeah.

26:28.97

Max Shank

Oh yeah, my God but you gotta shovel the walk. Maybe you got to scrape ice off your windshield like I went I went to the mountains.

26:34.92

mikebledsoe

Ah, there's still more austerity there. But what I'm saying is like overall things have become a choice kind of like being fit. Ah you you have the ability to be in the best best shape any human being could ever be in because of all the access to anything you ever wanted. But you can also be in the worst shape and you could.

26:50.00

Max Shank

And.

26:54.43

mikebledsoe

You could just completely waste your life away doing nothing and playing video games because life is so easy and there is abundance or you could or you could choose to use the tools that technology has has given us in order to really leverage.

26:58.30

Max Shank

The.

27:13.25

mikebledsoe

Strategy in a way that makes a really big impact and so the the amount of choice that we have in these things is way higher. So I think it requires a higher level of discipline If you're gonna I think that a lot I think a lot of people tend to.. They don't even really know what austerity is.

27:29.50

Max Shank

There's way more pleasure levers. Well there's so many pleasure levers like you can pull the coffee lever you can pull the Tiktok lever. You can get tits on the telephone you can get drugs delivered to your like I can get booze delivered to my door if I want to. Get drugs I can get all kinds of shit just delivered to me so there are pleasure levers everywhere. So ah, um, I'll bring it back to fasting because that's the most. Ah.

27:51.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

28:02.77

Max Shank

But apart from safety. That's the most significant consistent and primal desire that we work with hunger desire pain all synonyms. So if you can control that 1 thing with conscious ah thought then you have at least the foundation.

28:21.26

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

28:21.44

Max Shank

To control those other things and so um I don't know if there's it's different for everybody though. It obviously seems easier for some people to not eat tons of chocolates than it is for others. Some people. It seems really hard to not eat chocolates and popcorn all day. I find that a little bit challenging myself I would just snack all day long I'll I will just.

28:47.40

mikebledsoe

On' the other way I I'm like I for I'll forget to eat type of thing I've I've had to like stay on top of myself my whole life.

28:52.20

Max Shank

If you're really interested in something ah eating is irrelevant if you're really interested I'll I'll do that too but like I will I'll go a whole day without eating. Yeah.

29:01.93

mikebledsoe

I Think that's accurate. Yeah I'm a very curious person That's probably why I don't eat much.

29:11.18

Max Shank

And I'll do that too unless you put a sandwich in front of me like if I see the food if I see the food. It's It's very likely going to be eaten I mean I'll smell it first to make sure it's good just like any other animal but I'm going to eat that food if I see it.

29:26.34

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

29:28.92

Max Shank

And I can eat such a tremendous quantity of food. It is. It is outrageous like sometimes I will lift the bowl which is like a giant plate. It's like a twelve inch platter that's two feet deep two inches deep not two feet deep like a barrel two inches deep giant ah bowl and I'll fill it and sometimes I'll be carrying it from the kitchen to the table and I'll go holy fuck this this is heavy lifting lifting. This food is heavy to me. And it'll be like 3 to 5 eggs a couple of brotw worstst some rice and cheese and pesto and ricotta and it just becomes this mass of eggs and cheese and meat and and it's shocking. It's shocking. What's that dude are you kit.

30:16.57

mikebledsoe

On the wonder you got fat. Ah no wonder you got fat.

30:25.52

Max Shank

I will continue eating like a buffet is like a dream.. The only thing is like how much fried chicken versus fried fish am I going to eat at this thing a buffet is like such a perverted Extravagance. Of Human dominance over the food chain like we just have this cornucopia of different animals and plants that you can eat. It is so extravagant I Fucking Love it.

30:52.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah I mean look I'm not that much different if it's in the house I'm gonna fucking eat it like if there's chocolate in here if there's if there's a cake if there's anything that I'm oh.

30:59.63

Max Shank

The. I had cheesecake this morning with with coffee I had a slice of coffee ah cheesecake with a cup of mocha. Oh my Oh my God and.

31:11.62

mikebledsoe

Ah, my mouth is watering now.

31:18.52

Max Shank

It was so delicious and I was just thinking This is what balance really looks like.

31:24.14

mikebledsoe

The well for me I practice I don't have that kind of shit in my house I and and because I cause I practice because I'll eat it out I practice I practice my discipline when I'm shopping So I do my shopping online I try to shop when.

31:30.46

Max Shank

Well yeah.

31:41.13

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

31:44.14

mikebledsoe

I love shopping online for my food because it's not going to get here for 3 or 4 or 5 days like I'm on like a subscription thing and I I I have to have my order in by Tuesday so I write so it arrives on Saturday so I yeah.

31:48.59

Max Shank

You know this.

31:56.95

Max Shank

Ah, that's quite a lot of planning required. You must be from a cold climate.

32:02.30

mikebledsoe

I. Ah, well, ah, well, the company sets it up like that. So if I want to get this massive discount I get it's like 40% off the food because it's you know they're they're reduced the reducing Yeah food weight. Well it's those things they're they're pushing my buttons. Okay, our goal.

32:09.11

Max Shank

Moon.

32:18.10

Max Shank

Guaranteed.

32:24.90

mikebledsoe

This company's goal is to reduce food waste. Okay I like that they're going to take things that are in you know too much supply. Not enough demand and then they're going to package it and send it my door step before it goes bad, perfect and all really high quality organic food.

32:25.85

Max Shank

Love it.

32:33.50

Max Shank

Um, super um.

32:39.34

mikebledsoe

So it's pushing that button for me, it's like oh I want to you know help reduce food waste I'm a good person and then the and then it's it's all very high well I'm saving 40% off of stuff if I were to go to whole foods I'd spend twice as much as what I'm spending here.

32:53.68

Max Shank

So not only do you feel kind good but you feel smart good. Yeah oh yeah, superior Wow you're so you're you're saintly.

32:58.67

mikebledsoe

I feel superior and and good. Yeah yeah, superior and and smart. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, practically and then so so then.

33:11.40

Max Shank

You're practically feeding people.

33:18.24

mikebledsoe

I I really enjoy I didn't always I wasn't always like this but I I enjoy the routine of it as like oh I need to have my order in by I think it's Wednesday at noon I yeah, it's a ritual I got to you know Wednesday at noon and it pops up on my calendar. Oh time to put my misfit market order in and so.

33:28.50

Max Shank

It's like a ritual.

33:37.77

mikebledsoe

Ah, by the way everyone wants the code for that to shoot me a Dm and you'll save ten bucks after your next quarter. Ah I mean I've been trying to squeeze that ad in for like 3 shows. Yeah, so.

33:42.43

Max Shank

I Knew this was an infomercial for for groceries I knew it shoot better. Get paid.

33:55.21

mikebledsoe

The um, so yeah, the and 1 thing I noticed was I didn't order a bunch of bullshit every everyone someone because they do have some bullshit in there I could order some some snack food. Yeah and my impulsivity was greatly reduced knowing.

34:02.94

Max Shank

Um, it's less impulsive. Maybe.

34:13.96

mikebledsoe

I don't get this food until Saturday and I'm normally ordering the time of day that I'm ordering is usually after breakfast. So like I'm um I have energy my willpower is high I'm um my I'm fed so I'm not.

34:14.54

Max Shank

Right? I might not even want chocolates by then? no so you're fed. Wow.

34:30.31

mikebledsoe

Like the worst time you could go shoppings if you're hungry and stoned I mean what are you gonna buy at the grocery store when you're hungry and Stone. So I go in I'm I'm wide awake. Um I'm dialed in I'm fed I'm gonna make good choices. So Anyways, I have I don't remember how I got down that track. But I. I Hope it's helpful for somebody.

34:49.71

Max Shank

It's you know it's an environmental hack. That's what it is. We're we're talking about environment. We're talking about what kind of food makes it into the house because that's where the battle is That's the important battle is what gets past the front door.

34:52.59

mikebledsoe

Really is.

35:06.56

Max Shank

What gets in the house. So if you just have some good security at the gate you are going to have a much easier time and that reminds me of the most significant gate that requires security in your life which is your mouth.

35:06.87

mikebledsoe

That's true. That's true.

35:25.77

Max Shank

Both the things that you say and the things that you consume that that is that is where the ruin of many men really comes from is just weak security at the mouth.

35:28.27

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

35:38.41

mikebledsoe

True Dad True dad. Yeah, ah this makes me but so the concept of making poor decision making difficult or good decision making easy One of the things that I've done is.

35:52.28

Max Shank

Un.

35:57.30

mikebledsoe

I've invested in some crypto and for me to move crypto around or cash it out. It's ah it's a task I cannot without my iphone hit the app on my phone because most 99% of people holding crypto can just pull put in and pull out all willy- nily.

36:14.96

Max Shank

Does it make you more deliberate but less agile.

36:16.74

mikebledsoe

Whenever they feel like it. Absolutely yeah and for for long term investing why you don't need agility. You actually yeah, you want to sacrifice that for the purpose of yeah being deliberate. So.

36:30.33

Max Shank

Especially if you're a very inflammatory decision maker like oh my god it went down 5% I got to sell everything right.

36:36.10

mikebledsoe

Right? right? and um, like I don't even have I don't I can't even look at um, why don't have any apps on my phone to even track what's happening in the crypto markets I haven't looked at my crypto holdings in over a month

36:48.10

Max Shank

Ah.

36:54.50

mikebledsoe

And people are like oh it's going down I'm like okay because I can't see it. It doesn't bother me and the thing is is I'm not gonna I wouldn't cash out anyway. But if I was watching it day to day I'd be experiencing the emotional distress. It's an environmental thing like.

37:00.94

Max Shank

Well, you yeah you.

37:12.14

mikebledsoe

The the apps on your phone is part of your environment the feed the trough I'm always wanted to get like ah I wanted to create a comic of of and maybe there's one out there where the feed is going into a trough and.

37:13.80

Max Shank

Um, maybe like the news perhaps or the feed I mean the feed this the fire hose pointed at your face huh.

37:32.70

mikebledsoe

People are just feeding on it.

37:32.99

Max Shank

Oh I'm sure you could find that comic right now. Ah, but that's a big part of your environment that's chosen I think it's probably rare that a person looks at a screen for less than 2 hours a day. So.

37:36.48

mikebledsoe

Now And um.

37:52.77

Max Shank

that's that's 2 hours of mostly receiving messages from ah a carefully curated environment to make you feel a certain way and you know we're always, we're always talking about mind control essentially because even the actions that you take. You got to use your mind and then outsource it to your legs to get up and run or kick or jump or whatever so looking at the direct influences on your mind that make you think or feel a certain way is huge. You know looking at your. Investments every single day can be fun if you're one of those people or it can be a stressor looking at the news every day can be fun if you're one of those people or it can be a tremendous stressor to you and it's all how you ah.

38:44.77

mikebledsoe

Um I don't know where fun. The news could be but.

38:49.44

Max Shank

I Think some people absolutely get off on it. Um, otherwise they wouldn't keep watching right? Um, there's it's like fear pornography. You know I'm I'm like okay okay horror a horror flick.

38:54.78

mikebledsoe

I Think they're addicted to the I mean it's all dopamine. Yeah yeah, it's the same people who like horror flicks I could care less about horror flick.

39:08.96

Max Shank

By the way have you ever seen a horror movie that was rated pg 13 and really fucking scary have you ever seen something like that. Okay, so have I and it makes me wonder what's so goddamn offensive about a pair of titties I mean if I see.

39:15.47

mikebledsoe

I have.

39:27.71

Max Shank

Okay, so titties are rated R but I can watch a fucking demon rip some like young child in half and then like eat their ah like guts on screen on screen and and I can't see ah an Aryola I mean are this is like.

39:33.24

mikebledsoe

Oh yeah, well totally.

39:46.75

mikebledsoe

Dude dude dude. So ah I'm I'm I'm at my this is like five or six years ago I'm at my ex wife's parents house and the ah.

39:47.54

Max Shank

Whose idea is this? What's more damaging.

40:03.21

mikebledsoe

You know it's a holiday and they're watching movies you know Tv's on all day and then he's a baptist preacher and so anything that involves sex at all is just a big. No. No, we're watching this horror flick and people are just getting murdered left and right it's like the most violent thing ever. And then there's this sex scene that comes on just for a minute he changes the channel and he's like why do they gotta put that in there and I'm sitting there yeah ah I'm sitting there I'm going I like my my brain was just melting in that.

40:29.62

Max Shank

No way.

40:42.69

mikebledsoe

Spot I I couldn't even say anything I just remember looking at my ex mean like what? what's happening like this was okay. So so the the demonstration the demonstration of destruction.

40:42.97

Max Shank

Wow.

40:51.17

Max Shank

That is that is like a caricature. That's so funny to me. That's what we're talking about.

41:01.25

mikebledsoe

And death and murder and violence totally fine, but the act of love is is the thing we want to avoid that's ah it's very interesting.

41:14.31

Max Shank

Ah, yeah, that's that's really weird. But I mean that is pretty much on brand for for religion to be okay with ah killing a lot of folks but not necessarily having orgies on the altar.

41:30.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

41:33.52

Max Shank

In fact, the the folks who did orgies on the altar the ah the bigger religions were the first ones to to to stop them doing that right woa. Okay, so you're you're so you're I'm.

41:40.97

mikebledsoe

Yeah, get a so it is back on track.

41:53.40

Max Shank

Um, bringing this train back on the tracks because we were talking about how the screens are a part of your environment and it's really important to be honest with yourself about how big of an impact they are on your environment from a percentage standpoint because whatever you.

41:58.69

mikebledsoe

Um.

42:11.65

Max Shank

Ah, pay attention to that's essentially what your universe is like it's your perspective of what's going On. So Whether you're watching horror films or pornography or the news which is basically like fear pornography. It's like the stakes are high and we're going to terrify you. But somehow if you had never heard about this thing. It wouldn't have made a difference.. That's what's so shocking to me.

42:35.00

mikebledsoe

You know what are some of the things that ah ah, some of the conscious choices you've made about your environment that help you live the the life that you really want to be living enhance the lifestyle.

42:53.00

Max Shank

Oh my god I do have a television in my house and it's huge. Just like my genitals. That's how that's how you measure right? I got a giant truck I have a giant Tv I'm here at a party.

42:54.71

mikebledsoe

You have a television in your house. Where's it position.

43:06.17

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that's pretty much all you need.

43:12.30

Max Shank

Um, no my my environment is amazing I have an environment that makes it so easy to play and to exercise my brother came over with his niece or my niece his daughter and son and there's a park. Across the street from my house and and I have every toy I have balls and frisbees and sticks and ropes and games and things like that and it's It's really just the most fun place to be ever and you don't you don't um. You don't play because it's like going to burn calories or because you're going to get some Ah I don't know some ulterior Motive. You just do it because it's fun. Like for its for its own Sake. So My my house is very much.

44:05.51

mikebledsoe

There's There's no, there's no necessity necessity for progress to be made.

44:09.18

Max Shank

Yeah I mean it's fun to play better at something but playing is by far the best I mean winning is great but playing is the best and once you get to that point then you'll see life a lot differently because you also won't tolerate. Encounters that are not playful and fun like the more you hold a high standard for the types of interactions you want to be in conversations can be kept playful ah activities and sport can be kept playful. It's like. Do you really want to talk with someone who's getting angry and yelling at the time. No Do you really want to play tennis with someone who is getting angry and yelling at the time on the tennis core. It's like no, you don't want to tolerate those sorts of um energies really. So My environment physically is amazing. It's practically cheating I have a pool hot tub I got the whole like spa here at home I Got an outdoor area for exercising I got all the fun Toys Tennis courts across the street. Ah, friends who live close by which is maybe even more important and then the gym is a giant playground really total unfair advantage. Great community, Great friends Once again, um. You You do stuff just because it is fun to do not because you you will get other benefits. No question but ah, just doing stuff that is intrinsically fun with people that you care about is is a huge. Unfair Advantage. So Both the physical spaces that I most occupy and the people that I engage with are very playful, lighthearted funny and I don't have to like filter myself like I can say ah like titties. If I want to and they won't get offended or change the station. So ah, the environment is very open for ah experimentation, exploration and falling or failing which is a big part of learning to I mean I could talk about this literally all day Because. Ah, that's the easiest way to provide a good ah gym environment is to create a community and a space where falling and failing is safe to do both ego wise. Ah so more like metaphorically and then also physically.

46:57.42

Max Shank

Like do you have crash pads. Can you teach people How to fall can you? um you know explore your limits without having to be afraid both verbally and physically so I think um I think it's invaluable.

47:11.97

mikebledsoe

Beautiful, beautiful. Um, yeah, yeah, well I'll speak about my situation and but I I moved to Austin Texas because I was looking for a new environment to live in I left intonnita is before.

47:18.98

Max Shank

That's the easy way.

47:31.41

mikebledsoe

Covid hit I think sometimes when I talk to people in Austin I'm like oh you're one of those people that flood California when covid hit. It's like well I left before I was looking for something new before all that mess. Um, and I I wasn't getting I wasn't getting what I needed there for some reason even though.

47:39.50

Max Shank

Ah.

47:50.68

mikebledsoe

Where you live is basically heaven. Um.

47:53.46

Max Shank

Well, you had a lot of things that you were doing that you stopped doing there right? I mean correct me if I'm wrong but was that the time when you like switched businesses and relationships and locations pretty much all at the same time like you're like.

48:07.16

mikebledsoe

All the same time.

48:11.10

Max Shank

I Don't know what needs to change. So let's change all of it I get it.

48:13.18

mikebledsoe

Ah, pretty much pretty much I think I think um, nothing fit anymore and I ended up traveling around I chose Austin Texas because you know I didn't think I wanted to live near a city. But then I realized how much I love all the different amenities.

48:32.16

Max Shank

I am.

48:32.28

mikebledsoe

And what I realized also is community is the most important thing to me if I yeah my my girlfriend and I we we were I remember we were down in Columbia ah, not this past January about a year and a half ago and you know the world was being.

48:37.73

Max Shank

What.

48:51.93

mikebledsoe

Was fairly chaotic. We were in lockdowns half the time when we were there. We had the January sixth thing going on up here and I'm like man this is a very disappointing time I don't know what's going to happen next. It seems like this whole situation isn't getting better. It's only getting worse. Okay, if we were gonna get stuck in one because. We're basically stuck in 1 spot for four or five days at a time multiple times while we were there so I'm like all right if we get stuck somewhere for 5 years So let's just do the the thought experiment. Yeah, the thought experiment is you can't leave five mile radius for 5 years

49:21.47

Max Shank

5 years

49:29.75

mikebledsoe

Where do you live and and that really got us thinking in a whole new set of terms and the result ended up being Austin Texas because we also realized that if we're gonna be 5 years say we can't leave a five mile mile race in 5 years thing that matters the most is who we're surrounded by so we looked to south for and we looked at Austin because we we had a lot of friends moved to both and and so we ended up here in Austin and made my my ah end up buying a house and the location I bought my house is.

49:54.43

Max Shank

Oh yeah, oh.

50:07.31

mikebledsoe

Ah, 15 minutes from this place called Kuyja where I saw it in cold plunge two 3 4 days a week and I used to have a son and cold plunge in my house and I and I was planning on getting my own but I realized that when I go do it in community cause I train at my my house I don't. I don't really do a lot of training outside of my house I don't have like that I'm not getting my community somewhere else. Um I'm doing a little more now I'm getting back into it now that? Ah yeah, I'm getting some shit aligned.

50:29.18

Max Shank

You don't really do a lot of training period right? You don't really do a lot of training at all.

50:45.30

mikebledsoe

But um, the.

50:46.14

Max Shank

Ah I'm I'm a fine one to talk. It's sometimes really hard to get me to do like strength exercise.

50:52.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah I I probably lived heavy once a week and then I'd fuck around the rest of the time so it is it is now.

50:59.67

Max Shank

That's good. It's hard when you're already really strong like I hardly am going to get that much more benefit and I know that's not a popular take for a fitness guy but but.

51:12.17

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well the thing is when you got 20 years of fitness under your belt like my girlfriend's like you barely work out and how do you you got muscles and you're strong and I go I've been doing this for twenty years Twenty five years I've been lifting weights for 25 years I don't have to do a lot more.

51:23.48

Max Shank

Um, yeah, yeah, maintenance on a maintenance on a skyscraper is very different than building 1

51:31.95

mikebledsoe

Yes, so but I chose to to live somewhere that's driving distance. That's easy to go to this place because that's where I get my community fix. So I go hang out if I have a sun and cold plunge in my house I found that I was doing about once a week when I spend. Couple hundred bucks a month to be a member at this place I'm invested partly because I'm paying for it. But that's part of it. But also it's actually overall cheaper than having a sana and cold plunge I mean that sana I had was like $18000 and.

51:54.42

Max Shank

You're invested.

51:59.40

Max Shank

The people.

52:06.78

mikebledsoe

Cold plunges run like 3 to $5000 yeah and I have but.

52:08.10

Max Shank

Well, you can get those both a lot cheaper, but okay, yeah, that is our 18 k for a sauna that is extravagant I know what saunnas cost that's like Johnny Rockefeller sauna over here.

52:17.82

mikebledsoe

Ah, ah yeah, ah and you had some bells and whistles. Um, but I go and I for the community. So like environment wise.

52:28.88

Max Shank

Yeah.

52:35.44

mikebledsoe

Like there's certain things I put in place that cause me to interact with people because I know myself in that I'm a very social person but unless there's a reason to see somebody I'll stay at home. Yeah I'll stay at home I'll make my own food I'll.

52:47.66

Max Shank

Feels frivolous if there's no reason for it. Yeah.

52:53.33

mikebledsoe

Train in my gym I'll work at the house I'll read. It'll be getting dark outside and I realize that I haven't seen anybody in three days and that that's just not good for my mental health and or my girlfriend either because she'll get caught up in the same thing.

52:55.64

Max Shank

Totally.

53:01.37

Max Shank

Totally and it's hard to it's hard to recognize from the first person perspective that you're that you're lacking that because you get in your head right? You're in your head you're in your head you're in your head.

53:10.54

mikebledsoe

Totally totally.

53:19.17

Max Shank

That's why it's so valuable to have people and activities where you get out of your head and you just are ah enjoying being with the community or in communion in communication with ah other people. It's It's really big so we have the places and the peoples basically.

53:29.59

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah.

53:37.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

53:38.61

Max Shank