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| 00:00.00 | mikebledsoe | I Think yeah I did one of those um inner Tube River Lazy River thing never done it before been Whitewater raft and canoeing always in Rivers never did the I'm not can hardly do shit as I let the water take me. |
| 00:00.00 | Max Shank | Sounds good to me. |
| 00:08.26 | Max Shank | The Lazy river. |
| 00:37.76 | Max Shank | Aha. |
| 00:39.42 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so it took a friend organizing it with a bunch of people who I actually like to spend time with to get me to do nothing on a river and I got out there I got out there and it was. Ah, there was a crowd it was it was like bumper boats for 4 hours in this river it's in Austin yeah south of off and Marcos and when we got there, we're like holy shit's busy and the people working there go oh hasn't gotten busy yet. So. |
| 01:28.44 | Max Shank | This is in Austin. Well yeah. |
| 01:58.72 | mikebledsoe | Anyways, yeah, that was ah that was my weekend that and barbecue and laughing with friends. |
| 02:05.46 | Max Shank | Lazy River is exciting. |
| 02:17.38 | Max Shank | I'll tell you what makes me laugh is your story about you having some very close friends give you permission to just float in a River it sounds ah like this joke about um, meditation and yoga. It's like. |
| 02:45.76 | mikebledsoe | Ah. |
| 02:51.56 | Max Shank | People in None world countries need someone from a None world country to remind them that it's okay to do nothing for 20 minutes it's like you get permission to do nothing for 20 minutes with meditation class or yoga or something like that. It's like. |
| 03:07.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 03:27.88 | Max Shank | You just do nothing. |
| 03:28.88 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, we had a friend of her for dinner on Friday night and we talked about that which was you know talking about you know oh I got a meditation practice and I got a visualization practice and I got qi gong and it's like all these practices and talked about just. The value of not you know, getting trapped in the in the practices and the value of just sitting on the side of a lake and staring at the water and doing absolutely nothing and not worried about your posture or anything like that in just that space. |
| 04:36.56 | Max Shank | Well, it's like not concerning yourself with the outcome right? Like you don't you don't care if you have produced more widgets or harvested more grains right. |
| 04:44.40 | mikebledsoe | You know. |
| 05:04.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it's kind of like play. |
| 05:09.82 | Max Shank | And that's what we're doing. That's that's like how we judge if if we're good in a lot of relationships because that's where we gain our judgments from is these relationships that we've had so we say it's good to do this. It's bad to do that and. What's interesting is how few people can balance out both and I'm speaking from my own experience as well. It's like None or the other typically and figuring out how to rive the natural cycles which is a wave. |
| 06:11.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 06:26.68 | Max Shank | Um, is super valuable. Skill no wind to float in the Lazy River and you know when it's time to climb up the mountain or dig out the gold mine or ah till the field you you go get that shit done with total focus and it. Kind of goes back to what we talked about with the the Jungle cats and the lions and predators of various kinds. It's like they they basically are in rest mode rest and recovery and form bonds with the family or focused. They're not.. They're not hurrying typically right? There's a difference between being hurried and being focused and that's what I try to do sometimes I even get it Sometimes I do it where I'm I'm just focused or relaxed and if I'm relaxed I'm. |
| 07:42.62 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 08:20.22 | Max Shank | I'm letting my focus diffuse into a soft glow like a lantern that you could look directly at it doesn't hurt your eyes or you can focus down like a laser pointer or a laser cutter and you can actually slice through metal with it so being able to. Lazy River or Whitewater Raft. You know that sort of thing or lantern versus laser. |
| 09:10.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, um I think back in my early days of all a not not understanding the value of the space of doing nothing and just playing with no outcome and and how much benefit that gives me on the day. Ah. When I do want to focus the ability to do so is there and I like we were saying about the the lantern and or the laser yesterday is a good example that is I did float on Saturday but yesterday my fiance. |
| 10:02.80 | Max Shank | Earth. |
| 10:20.94 | mikebledsoe | So I got says I I need a lot I got a lot of work to do and I said you know what I got a lot of work to do too because I've got a summit coming up and you know there's a I've got a long list and I've got a couple podcast episodes to record this week so there's some things I need to prep for but I'm not gonna. You know it's Sunday and I know that I've got I'm working till next Sunday I don't have a day off between now I'm next Sunday and I'm going to take it easy I probably was more productive and enjoyed my work more without worrying about how much I got done that day. |
| 11:33.44 | Max Shank | I mean. |
| 11:36.74 | mikebledsoe | And yeah, it's I find that especially when I was younger a lot of time spent a lot of times spent chugging coffee and overstimulating myself for the purpose of thinking that was going to help me do something better. |
| 11:56.46 | Max Shank | Totally power through baby well and you'll be more good as judged by all of your peers. It's all the program that's been installed and if everything is sacrificed for the outcome. |
| 12:21.24 | mikebledsoe | Right here. |
| 12:33.34 | Max Shank | The extreme example is someone who's going to blow themselves up because the programming was so effective That's crazy so being able to draw boundaries is really what it comes back to is can you draw a boundary for space for yourself. |
| 12:44.32 | mikebledsoe | No no. |
| 13:12.84 | Max Shank | And I actually remember a conversation I had with a member at my gym once and I watched this person transform over a period of time I learned about how their work and their life goes and things like that and they were you know real high performer Worker. And her her biggest challenge was to set clear boundaries for herself to do things that were for her I mean she was give give give essentially I'll I'll get all the work done and then just pile some more on and then I'll get that done too and. |
| 14:03.52 | mikebledsoe | A. |
| 14:29.96 | Max Shank | Always the last priority and I remember she was asking if she could drop the the personal training from her membership and just do the classes and I said look ah personal train do classes. Whatever you want to do but make an appointment for yourself every week. That you never miss Basically like you have to keep that as a priority and that's one of the reasons that personal training works is because the person is heavily invested to show up at the given time and once that billing and scheduling is all dialed in. |
| 15:11.62 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 15:44.54 | Max Shank | It makes it very easy to show up every time but if it's ah, a group membership and no one really is going to follow up if you aren't coming in there. It's a totally different Thing. So I think it comes back to drawing boundaries. Between those times where you are allowed or allowing yourself to do nothing. |
| 16:27.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, my None task on Monday mornings is to schedule out my rejuvenating activities for the rest of the week when am I going to work out when am I going to go song a cold plunge when am I going to hang out with my friends. |
| 16:46.86 | Max Shank | He. |
| 17:06.56 | mikebledsoe | All that scheduled out None thing Monday morning before I even look at what I need to do for work that week and yeah it for me it. It requires that level of of commitment to self in order to follow through on that stuff. |
| 17:13.81 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 17:35.76 | Max Shank | Oh draw boundaries. That's why relationships don't work right? Well, that's why relationships go South is ah, people didn't draw boundaries quick enough. Basically. |
| 17:41.36 | mikebledsoe | But most people never do it. Yeah, didn't yeah, they just don't even consider the boundaries in the None place. Yeah, you know? Yeah, they're not even aware usually like the the boundary most people. |
| 18:12.96 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 18:20.32 | mikebledsoe | Discovered that the boundary even exists when they get mad like ah, a boundary getting crossed it it triggers anger and then a lot of times the the right? the right person to be angry at yourself. But. |
| 18:41.28 | Max Shank | Um, it's internalized like right. |
| 18:55.16 | mikebledsoe | It's projected out and blamed on someone else when you know my big thing is anytime I get angry with somebody else I check in with myself to say you know what boundary was crossed and did I communicate that boundary and most of the time I didn't and then I got. |
| 19:13.96 | Max Shank | Yeah, yeah. |
| 19:32.70 | mikebledsoe | Check out in myself. But then I go have the conversation about where my boundary is with that person and you know it's always things usually clear up after that. |
| 19:38.68 | Max Shank | Um, yeah, yeah, um I would I would agree I think people um often don't check their boundaries. Quick enough and hold true to those lines and it makes it very difficult. Ah, and it's kind of an ah accumulating Burden I think even and you don't really know how much you. |
| 20:16.74 | mikebledsoe | Now just. |
| 20:40.72 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 20:51.56 | Max Shank | Like resentment and blame you can start hanging onto just just because 100% your responsibility you should have drawn boundaries. That's why anytime like what you're saying oh I'm mad at this person. It's like well that's silly because. Whatever happened happened and that was possible from from back when you started that relationship right? That's that's fine. Whatever just ah, try to learn from it and this back to the thing about being focused versus hurried or. |
| 21:32.56 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 22:05.72 | Max Shank | Whatever there's a big difference between just putting all your focus onto something and being emotionally charged up about it. |
| 22:17.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so we want to talk about today. Yeah I think we've done boundaries before. |
| 22:25.10 | Max Shank | What do I want to talk about I want to talk about the well. Okay, last week we talked about stuff basically which was cool. We talked about stuff. Making stuff. |
| 23:01.80 | mikebledsoe | I Only remember what what stuff will we talk about. |
| 23:10.30 | Max Shank | Um, we were talking about how come on you we were yeah but you're supposed to treasure mine forever. Whatever I say I'm sure you have like a separate diary just for the conversations that you and I have. |
| 23:24.26 | mikebledsoe | I've had a lot of thoughts between last week and right now and it gets cluttered. Oh. |
| 23:50.24 | Max Shank | I mean I know like everyone can tell that you get really excited throwing a word the round throwing around the word fiance now. So I know you got a lot on your mind. You're you're going to be this new person. You're going to be like oh well, you know now that I'm married. |
| 24:08.94 | mikebledsoe | M. |
| 24:24.28 | Max Shank | And it's going to be just like last week when you said well now that I'm you know a little older a little wiser I think it's just going to play in to that that guru status that you've developed because now you'll be older wiser married get some kids going and then your avatar. Will be complete so you can you know really have some authority on these messages for the men who listen to us significantly long that we shouldn't even see the neck on that tank top. It should go down at least ten more inches gandalph style. |
| 25:12.22 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I need ah I need a longer beard too. |
| 25:30.18 | mikebledsoe | Now see what Ashley says about that. |
| 25:39.66 | Max Shank | No, we were talking about making stuff though last week like the the value of making stuff physically with your hands and there's and there's a lot of truth that is discovered when you do that because there and it kind of ties so I would tie back. |
| 25:49.84 | mikebledsoe | Oh oh yeah. |
| 26:04.98 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 26:18.26 | Max Shank | We talked about last week into the so that was the matter or the stuff and maybe we could go into the pattern of things so we could talk a little bit about vibration and rhythm and frequency if if you wanted to It's kind of a. Challenging topic to really follow, but it's um, the reason it reminded me is father's day. It was father's day and you know the word father comes from the word ah pattern and the word mother comes from the word matter. So there's. |
| 27:10.80 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 27:28.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, why say we go with that. Let's go with that. Yeah I'm I'm down to tackle the pattern conversation that sounds good. |
| 27:31.68 | Max Shank | Matter and pattern so it seems like a nice logical transition. |
| 27:53.38 | Max Shank | Yeah, so let's say we try to break it down into ah patterns of human beings which is kind of like programs of human beings. So we have that which is I would say that's the most practical level. Is the patterns of humans. Ah we also have ah Dna is a pattern and another synonym for pattern is code. |
| 28:57.40 | mikebledsoe | I think. |
| 28:59.20 | Max Shank | So you have Dna you got computer programming you got programming human beings. You got the different ah frequencies and wavelengths of things as it relates to the materials we make. |
| 29:28.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think it's gonna be a fun topic Actually the more the more you're talking I'm thinking and yeah, this will be a full. |
| 29:43.46 | Max Shank | Um, you could argue that matter and Pattern are the only topics that we could discuss. |
| 29:56.40 | mikebledsoe | I think so yeah, everything falls under those 2 categories. That's right. |
| 30:06.70 | Max Shank | Stuff and not stuff like okay here here's ah, an interesting example right? We have all these forces which is the way we describe. Okay, all right? No, we're Okay, we're we're kicked. |
| 30:23.88 | mikebledsoe | Hang on hang on. Let's kick the show off and then get into it. Yeah I think I think we're set are we clicked I wrote the date on the top of the page. Um. |
| 30:41.42 | Max Shank | Okay, you took some notes. |
| 30:55.12 | Max Shank | I have this I have this fantasy in my mind when I see you looking down and writing something that it's like oh these like excellent notes are like a mind map or something like that or maybe a checklist of things to cover. Really you've just written your name in the date in the corner. |
| 31:23.40 | mikebledsoe | Um, no half the time It's the date I'm practicing spelling my name. Yeah. |
| 31:38.76 | Max Shank | Okay, so we'll talk about Pattern for in honor of father's day. |
| 31:47.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah I said I say ah why don't you go ahead and do the intro and then we'll talk about the the membership site and then you can go into your explanation for. Father and pattern How about that and then we'll just go from there. |
| 32:31.50 | Max Shank | And the membership site just so I'm clear is in the beginning of the show I put my camera to expose the nipples and then when the public show starts I tilt it back up. So the nipples are ah not visible is that. |
| 33:03.86 | mikebledsoe | You got it. You got it? yeah. |
| 33:09.94 | Max Shank | Is that right? I'm a simple man I like a simple plan. My nips are only free to me but not to you. |
| 33:27.22 | mikebledsoe | All right? You want to kick off the intro today. All right? yep. |
| 33:32.94 | Max Shank | Yeah let's do it already. Ah None 2 None welcome back to Monday mornings with max and Mike Today we're gonna. Follow up what we talked about last week last week was a heck of a fun conversation about stuff matter substance working with your hands a little bit about manufacturing. It was a crazy excellent conversation. Go check it out Today. We're gonna talk about the other side. The pattern. I think it's very cool that the words mother and father are actually derived from matter and pattern and so that's what we're gonna talk about today. We're gonna talk about how pattern is present in your Dna your cell phone behaviors of human beings. And much much more and welcome welcome again. Mike thanks for sitting down with me I'm very excited and a little intimidated to tackle this topic today. |
| 35:20.58 | mikebledsoe | Well said. |
| 35:41.48 | mikebledsoe | Ah sorry I can make a bunch of bullshit up. Ah so for for those of you who who love this show. |
| 35:51.98 | Max Shank | I Don't like it for the record folks I don't like when he does that. |
| 36:04.22 | mikebledsoe | Ah, but for um, all we we decide to open up the membership site and we're gonna be posting exclusive content. There's a conversation that always happens previous to this show today's show we had 16 minutes and 55 seconds of content. Of us figuring out what we were going to talk about. But of course we can't help ourselves from delivering gold at every moment. So if you yep, None nipples on the preshow. So do that one. |
| 36:53.52 | Max Shank | There were also 2 nipples on the pre-show in case that matters I don't know why why should people do that one like what are they going to get out of that. Are they going to get some more interaction with us. |
| 37:17.16 | mikebledsoe | 1 maybe it's exclusive content for now we're going to see where it goes. Yeah well I had a guy. |
| 37:25.32 | Max Shank | Just exclusive content I Think yeah, we should see what people want though also because I could see ah I could see something really cool forming out of this So I just want to serve our our customers The best way I can. |
| 37:54.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I had a guy ah on Instagram Atx window tent and clean. He sent me message it and said he would donate for more podcasts with me and you so um, what I want to do is we're gonna set it up. It's not set up. As of today. But if you're listening to this what I'm Goingnna do is I'm going to create a link on the http://bloodsoio.com. So if you go to there. There's going to be a place where you can sign up for this and it's gonna be pay what you want so it's donation based anywhere between a dollar and $5000000 ah. |
| 38:58.12 | Max Shank | Love it. |
| 39:09.36 | mikebledsoe | And we'll set up a we'll make it a monthly subscription and as long as you're. |
| 39:13.16 | Max Shank | Are we sponsored by Austin Tint and window by the way atx tint and window. |
| 39:23.34 | mikebledsoe | You know we may mention him more depending on the size of his donation or her donation I'm not sure if it's a man or woman. So I the this. |
| 39:49.66 | Max Shank | So wait. So wait, you're telling me they can pay what they want and we don't even really know what they're going to get yet. We know they're going to get exclusive content. There's no question. You're going to hear words there that you won't hear anywhere else but there might be even more than that is what you're saying So it's like. |
| 40:14.90 | mikebledsoe | Yep. |
| 40:24.34 | mikebledsoe | Well well part of this yeah part part part of this. Well the thing is the people that are going to donate to the show. They're going to contribute funds to make sure that this show keeps happening because you know what it takes a couple hours out of max and I week |
| 40:29.48 | Max Shank | Ah, bonus price Mystery box That's incredible. |
| 41:02.62 | mikebledsoe | And you know we got to keep the lights on and all that. But ah yeah, so the people. |
| 41:09.12 | Max Shank | Well you vote with your dollars too I'm I'm a big fan of that. So if you like really want more of something then you know that's that's the only way you can really influence it I say that in your whole life too. You know, buy what you like. |
| 41:36.94 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, spend money where you want things to improve So Ah so for one if you enjoy the show and you just want to Contribute. It's a great way to do it. You're also going to get exclusive content And. Ah, you are going to have the loudest voice out of everyone who has an opinion about what we should be doing So We're more likely to listen to those who are donating the most amount of money So That's all that's all on that So we'll get that set up I've got a summit coming up this weekend. So. |
| 42:35.80 | Max Shank | Very exciting. |
| 42:48.40 | mikebledsoe | My team is completely distracted with things that they think is important so that I can do the show. But. |
| 42:59.82 | Max Shank | It must have taken a lot of ah instruction to organize all those people together for a summit. He segwayed perfectly because someone has to orchestrate. |
| 43:15.70 | mikebledsoe | Instruction. Um, yeah, yeah, there's a ah lot of direction. |
| 43:37.32 | Max Shank | Someone has to orchestrate the code for getting that job done and if you think about the Pattern. So the bread. The the dough is the stuff. The recipe is the pattern. The sperm is the pattern. The egg is the stuff. Matter mother Pattern father. So It sounds like you are the father of this event because you have determined the structure of its organization. |
| 44:36.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, we create this structure and then I brought in a lot of speakers who are going to contribute so they they bring a lot of stuff and I organize it and I time it I announce it I create a container. |
| 44:55.22 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 45:10.16 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 45:13.70 | mikebledsoe | So it's a container of time so it starts at a certain time ends at a certain time we we do have a frequency of of time in between so this speaker starts here ends there. There's also a consideration for what type of content is gonna presented it. Be presented in what order to make the most sense so that we can stare step people through a series of understanding. So while I also have no idea what the speakers are going to say like I I know their topic but I and I know they're good because almost all of them been in the industry for twenty plus years |
| 46:09.48 | Max Shank | Right? right. |
| 46:27.00 | mikebledsoe | So I know it's going to be good I Just don't know what exactly that content's going to be and that's actually a lot of fun for me. |
| 46:40.28 | Max Shank | And that's the that's the practical side of patterns. That's the most practical side of patterns because most of our interactions are with people or or with stuff but usually with people I would say unless you're just specifically with materials and. |
| 47:04.92 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah art. |
| 47:18.36 | Max Shank | That's what teaching is it's basically ah, it's like the least substantial thing there is is pure instruction because there's no stuff being transferred. There's only code. Being transferred.. There's only the pattern that is being sent to another person. |
| 48:07.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 48:13.64 | Max Shank | But that's what drives people and the bible is a program. The constitution is a program these are patterns. These are these have their own ah force and vibration to them right. |
| 48:44.12 | mikebledsoe | What I'm glad you bring that up. |
| 48:49.16 | Max Shank | When it comes to the way that humans interact and behave and you take that plus it's like that plus Dna those are the None intersecting patterns that sort of weave together and you could I don't know I think the nature versus nurture argument is the wrong. Perspective I think it's nature and nurture and it's all the same kind of. |
| 49:33.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and and everything you were just saying right there and we look at the patterns that have had the longest staying power. So like we talk about the bible or christianity. It's a pattern that has had really long staying power a lot of other religions have fallen by the wayside. |
| 50:07.36 | Max Shank | Relative to other human religions. It's had incredible staying power. |
| 50:11.88 | mikebledsoe | And yeah, yeah, now the the patterns you talk about nature versus nurture. But what I one of the things that I've found to be ah, really powerful is studying the patterns of nature and then either mimicking that. |
| 50:37.32 | Max Shank | Then oh. |
| 50:50.84 | mikebledsoe | Or if we're going to be working with nature which we always are is how do we harness that if you try to create a structure that is not in alignment with nature. You're going to be. You're going to lose that battle and so there is and I think it creates some. |
| 50:55.86 | Max Shank | I will know. |
| 51:30.56 | mikebledsoe | Difficulty so one of the ways I like to think about patterns and frequencies and I think about frequencies specifically and I like to start at the macro and work our way down to the micro and then when we do that I think people really start getting an understanding of how the universe works. And this was pointed out to me by a guy named Daniel Schmackenberger he explained it to me and I go huh that act that that's in person in person. He explained it to me. |
| 52:18.34 | Max Shank | Um, did he explain it to you in person. What an interesting character that guy is I've listened to a few of his things and he's a very interesting cat. But. |
| 52:39.16 | mikebledsoe | He used to live down the street from us and I probably had a sit down with him every three months when I was living in Socal and we jammed and the guy. The guy is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. Um, but ah, we were talking about seasons and cycles and. |
| 52:54.60 | Max Shank | Um, about that. Yeah. |
| 53:18.70 | mikebledsoe | And lunar and solar and we look at the yeah we look at the pattern and we look at the patterns of nature. We look at patterns of the universe and the the None one the one that's easiest for us to all be aware of is probably the lunar cycle. So. |
| 53:24.66 | Max Shank | There's a pattern. |
| 53:53.90 | mikebledsoe | Or the 4 seasons. Um, these are both cycles the 4 seasons all happen in an annual basis. It gets hot it cools off. It gets really cold. It gets warm. It gets hot. It does that ah to. |
| 54:16.72 | Max Shank | So like the days and the moons. Ah, and the years are easy are like easy to notice. Outwardly. |
| 54:35.80 | mikebledsoe | They're easy to notice and so you have the lunar There's you know about thirteen lunar cycles in a year. Um some may ah some do argue that the fact that we have twelve months in the year and we have 13 lunar cycles is actually fighting nature a little bit. And we might be better off if we had a little bit different system. But this thing is pretty ingrained the gregorian calendar. Ah we have the lunar cycles which are which are monthly and then inside of that they're really the the weekly cycle Monday through Sunday is. |
| 55:21.94 | Max Shank | Oh man. Yeah, we. |
| 55:46.18 | mikebledsoe | I don't really see anything demonstrated in nature that seems like to me a very human construct to divide up those 28 ish days ah between lunar cycles and we want to like look all the way back through history. Yeah into weeks. |
| 56:10.26 | Max Shank | into into weeks um I don't know what the origin of the week is actually is kind of an interesting question. |
| 56:21.98 | mikebledsoe | And days are obvious the the daily cycle the sun comes up the sun goes down and I have no idea I mean somebody Dm me let me know and the. |
| 56:52.54 | Max Shank | We're just we're gonna trust your dude. Okay, this is why you are not in charge of the fucking research department I'll wait for the None direct message on Instagram to give me the answer and then I just get a fucking go with that you you lunatic speaking of moon. |
| 57:09.48 | mikebledsoe | Ah, no I need a starting point I need a. |
| 57:23.70 | Max Shank | That's where the luna lunatic comes from fucking lunatic. Yeah, so just Dm your effect that's like slightly less reliable than Wikipedia. |
| 57:26.78 | mikebledsoe | I. Well no I want to I want to I want the people in the audience to participate in the process of us finding information. They said it to me I'll I'll still verify it I'll look it up but I I'm gonna let someone initiate. So um. |
| 57:59.74 | Max Shank | Ah I'm just kidding I Love Wikipedia. Okay, so we have ah we have years we have moons so we have solar year we have moons. Let's forget about weeks. Let's go straight to heartbeats from there so we got year. |
| 58:13.68 | mikebledsoe | So about. |
| 58:34.60 | mikebledsoe | That's ah, that's where I was. That's where we're going is That's exactly what I've written down. Actually we're on the same page but it gets down to you get up and go to sleep. You have a Circadian rhythm you have a hormonal. |
| 58:38.74 | Max Shank | Moon day heartbeat. |
| 58:58.98 | mikebledsoe | Ah, rhythm throughout the day based on the sun coming up sun going down moon coming out all these things and then yeah it it comes down to heartbeat brain waves brainwave frequencies and so yeah. |
| 59:22.96 | Max Shank | Which is a lot faster because hertz is the way we measure frequency and hurts is calculated in cycles per second. So if something is it and I think we have the ability to hear things between oh gosh. Ah. 1 d-ish hurts to None something around there so we have a pretty big. There's ah, there's a great thing um to visualize the spectrum of frequencies but just remember that hurts is in cycles per second so your heart. Ah. |
| 01:00:11.98 | mikebledsoe | I should know that. |
| 01:00:40.80 | Max Shank | It beats once every second so cycles per second would be like 1 basically right. |
| 01:00:42.30 | mikebledsoe | Once a second. Yeah. |
| 01:00:56.26 | mikebledsoe | You know? Yeah, so we have all these different frequencies and None of the one of the ways reasons I like to think about frequencies in this way is because it allows. Me to see more clearly how I'm connected to the entire universe it. It reduces the amount of separation that I'm perceiving and whole with it. Yeah and I'm tuned into it once I learned this I I got a lot better about going down with the sun and coming up with the sun and. |
| 01:01:33.92 | Max Shank | You feel more whole with it. You feel more part of it. |
| 01:01:55.64 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 01:02:01.20 | mikebledsoe | My health improved and all sorts of things. So I like that the idea of talking about the micro macro to the micro and the pattern is always present. There's nothing that we can observe that doesn't have it and it's not participating. |
| 01:02:33.60 | Max Shank | Yeah, there's a great little chart if you type in em spectrum into Google images you can find ah a really nice little visual aid I think it's really important. |
| 01:03:02.92 | mikebledsoe | Em spectrum. |
| 01:03:06.66 | Max Shank | Yeah, just type in em spectrum into Google and hit images and that'll show you ah you know on the 1 hand when you have ah something like the visible light spectrum and then. |
| 01:03:43.36 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 01:03:43.60 | Max Shank | You go beyond above it. You have ultraviolet spectrum and then you have infrared so below what we can see and there's all this stuff happening and the way to tie it all together and simplify it in my mind is to say that vision. |
| 01:04:00.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:04:21.86 | Max Shank | Doesn't show you everything. That's there. It just shows you? What's important and there but there's so much stuff vibrating everywhere and everything's got its own um frequency to it and that goes all the way down like. Most watches are set with a quartz crystal actually because it vibrates at a certain frequency and I think ah the way an atomic clock works is with something like caesium. |
| 01:05:19.48 | mikebledsoe | Everyone's cell phone has a quartz crystal in it. |
| 01:05:40.34 | Max Shank | And so you think here's this this like bunch of stuff like a crystal but it's got this frequency that it's emitting from it all the time. |
| 01:06:01.68 | mikebledsoe | Man I spent hours talking about crystals on Saturday night with some friends. The I think we might open up a crystal shop here in Austin the next the next business venture. You think it'll be good I think we could we could pull. |
| 01:06:27.60 | Max Shank | I Think if you focus on it. It will be I think if you focus on it. It'll be awesome and if you ah, don't try that hard then it depends on who you partnered with. |
| 01:06:46.98 | mikebledsoe | All right? Yeah I'm I'm looking for solid partners for crystal shop here in Austin Texas. |
| 01:06:55.54 | Max Shank | I Like talking about crystals too but not with people who only know the esoteric side of Crystals I need someone to like bridge the gap between the physics and the more esoteric kind of philosophical Astro astrology because. |
| 01:07:14.66 | mikebledsoe | Boy Yeah I have a friend. |
| 01:07:35.28 | Max Shank | I'm I'm hip with it and I I like to know what's really going on in there. |
| 01:07:44.98 | mikebledsoe | Well, both sides are really nice I What are my buddies he used to be in the crystal business and and he can talk about how the crystal in your phone works and tie that into more of the esoteric as well and so he can He spans the whole thing I'm gonna have him on the show. |
| 01:07:54.82 | Max Shank | You gotta work them together. |
| 01:08:12.20 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:08:21.88 | mikebledsoe | Here in the next month or so and I don't know if we'll talk about Crystals because he's an expert in other things as well. But maybe we'll cover that for everybody. |
| 01:08:28.34 | Max Shank | Yeah I have a friend actually who I have a friend who his whole ah career. Basically right now is studying crystals so his his equipment that he has available in the lab is so tight that he can actually fire a neutron beam. To see really really tiny crystals of proteins to make for pharmaceuticals so his whole job is like trial and error. Let's let's throw some fucking heat and some of this over here and he's basically in a laboratory and then firing a little beam. Neutrons to look at the shapes to see if they're going to be able to bind or unite ah with other molecules in the body. It's it's really fascinating and you look at how all of those different interactions are things usually have a charge like positive or negative. And they often will also have a ah conforming shape and you can take that all the way down. It's it's easy to get lost with how many branches that you can take this down in terms of the energy transformation because that's really all we're doing is we're taking. Energy and we're transforming it into some other type of energy. That's really what family is about. You're taking energy from outside and then you're adding it to the family fungus is doing that we're doing that Orca are doing that. Basically you're trying to assimilate more energy and grow. Size of your empire ants fungus us and yeah and ah different creatures do it in different ways like ah in the life of a mycelium fungus that's slowly branching out a myceoleal network. |
| 01:11:46.14 | mikebledsoe | Simulate organize create a structure with that energy divert that energy. |
| 01:12:18.34 | Max Shank | They don't really budget time for ah like deviance and pleasure and vacations and things like that and we we do. We have all this crazy stuff Beyond grow the family but that's the that's the prevailing pattern because. |
| 01:12:43.68 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:12:56.64 | Max Shank | If you don't have that then that branch of the family tree cuts itself. So you you almost have it's why religions kind of follow the same thing Thou Shalt have no other gods before me because this has to be the foundation of your pattern of your programming. |
| 01:13:02.14 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:13:33.34 | Max Shank | Right? You can't like just pick and choose oh hey like you know you hindus. That's pretty cool but I like steak So I'm not going to go with this crew and you Christians are great but I want to eat pigs or you know whatever they don't like that doesn't it doesn't have the same um unity. It doesn't have the same. |
| 01:13:55.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:14:11.50 | Max Shank | Ah, resonance and harmony of the the the vibration there isn't it interesting that they also sing every Sunday that that's a big thing is singing together. We got to get back to that though. |
| 01:14:18.66 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I. Yeah, yeah I notice having interacted heavily with the new age spiritual Community and I I've never really considered myself new age. But the. The new age Spiritual Community is interesting because it does feel like a lot of the people in that community are adopting they're picking and choosing. They're cherry picking things from different religions and then creating their own little thing but it really does lack a foundation that I. |
| 01:15:30.88 | Max Shank | E. |
| 01:15:46.62 | mikebledsoe | I Think that the that community it feels very wishy-washy feels very too flowy to there's there's some people in in this community that are very popular and when they post things and when they talk about things. Sounds very flowery. But I don't know exactly what they mean and I don't think they know what they mean either. |
| 01:16:36.34 | Max Shank | Oh you mean like a flower like that thing that is designed to attract I'm not surprised.. The only thing we can possibly get is people being little flowers. There's no way. We you? you can't rise above the noise unless you make yourself into a pretty flower like you know you could tell people the truth is like look um there there are a lot of tools out there that we can use and you don't really know what the. |
| 01:17:13.68 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:17:46.26 | Max Shank | Potential benefit and potential cost of those tools is you? You don't really know how those tools can be used. You don't know the pattern or the code of how to put those tools to the best use and that's also what coaching and instruction is it's how to get the most out of those tools. So. The recipe for bread the recipe for making ah semiconductors and computers and automobiles. Ah what is that without the instructions. It's just stuff without the the instructions to put it all together. It's just stuff. Dna same thing. It actually determines where the protein is going to go where the collagen is going to get laid down. It's insane ah to try to like differentiate those 2 things because. |
| 01:19:38.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:19:43.90 | Max Shank | What is the stuff without the the movement of the stuff. What I mean there's there's nothing. That's perfectly still is kind of ah a weird ah trip to think about and I think a lot of that um can be described by like. Atomic structures as we understand it like the density of the packing of the atomic nuclei and the lattice work that they take ah see this. We're like way too far outside of my understanding but basically things are packed much tighter. When they are more denser so you have a ah gal you have ah an air compressor. You can compress the air and actually shove more into that same space and then as you get harder and harder Materials. There's less and less give that you can shove into that same space. |
| 01:21:03.28 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:21:35.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:21:40.20 | Max Shank | And that's also why in order to have a faraday cage which doesn't let ah electromagnetic radiation in it has to be made out of metal. It can't be made out of wood because it can get through because wood is less dent like how crazy is that when you think about it because the wood is still solid. |
| 01:22:17.42 | mikebledsoe | Yep. |
| 01:22:18.96 | Max Shank | But the reason you need it to be metal is because of the closeness of the lattice of those atoms. So. There's actually less space than usual and then with air with wood with metal. Tungsten Plutonium All that other stuff it's because it's more and more tightly packed and that's that's also um, how nature patterns itself pretty much if you look at a tree and a set of lungs. It starts out with a big pipe. And then it splits and splits and splits into little branches and ah leaves and branches branches little capillaries alviolles and things like that. So you're trying to maximize the ah surface area right? It's like giving yourself more. |
| 01:23:59.14 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:24:07.72 | Max Shank | Ah, relationships with the environment. |
| 01:24:10.60 | mikebledsoe | But that Pattern works best with the planet Earth for the exchange of of air of Oxygen carbon dioxide. Whatever it is whatever the exchange of these molecules are and when you're talking about Oxygen Carbon dioxide. It's no. A mystery why the lungs in the tree look very similar. It's just a shit works. Um, yeah. |
| 01:24:57.56 | Max Shank | Gas exchange happening all the time and that's a pattern that's a relationship between those 2 inhale exhale without algae and trees. We'd all be dead. |
| 01:25:22.40 | mikebledsoe | Very true. The I want to break this down and into and a 4 different quadrants. So I'm I'm a big fan I've I've talked about before of Ken Wilbur's a call map a qal so if you Google a cap a q a l space. Map then you'll get an idea of what I'm you'll get a visual of what I'm talking about here and so it's ah the upper quadrant is the individual the lower half of the quadrant is the collective. The left side of the quadrant is the interior or the inside and the. Right side of the quadrant is the exterior. So if we go to the upper left hand quadrant what we're looking at is the interior self. So if we want to look at I really like talking about this map because it allows us to break down a topic as big as something like patterns into something that. We can look at and step by step and talk about it so to really simplify what's happening in the upper left hand quadrant which is the interior of self I really think about that as like thoughts and feelings your thoughts and your feelings. It's your internal world and there's patterns there. And so we have emotional patterns we have thought patterns and we have psychoemotional patterns where the thoughts and emotions have a pattern between the 2 of them. You have an emotion then there's a pattern of making meaning of what that emotion means and then. That can cycle cycle cycle so we have psycho emotional patterns that we need to be aware of and the certain certain things trigger those different patterns and it could be something like father's day something could get someone thinks about father's day and. The pattern may be celebration feeling really good make it mean call your dad that day. So I like to think about no. |
| 01:29:30.90 | Max Shank | I'm sure that's everybody's pattern. |
| 01:29:45.30 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:29:45.32 | mikebledsoe | But but the ah but I like look what do what? you think about the Psycho emotional patterns. What have you noticed and learned about that. |
| 01:30:06.18 | Max Shank | So I think of it in a pretty simple way as people repeat what gives them a predictable result. Not even what gives them? ah an excellent result just a predictable one. So that's basically what a pattern is is. |
| 01:30:31.70 | mikebledsoe | M. |
| 01:30:43.56 | mikebledsoe | And people people do seek predictability. There's ah, there's a lot of people. They do ah a lot of. |
| 01:30:43.86 | Max Shank | There's predictability to it. So it's why people prefer people prefer the ah ah familiar pain to the unknown. |
| 01:31:07.52 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I've worked with a lot of people who they they came to me and there's something in their life. That's not working I mean that's that's really the the job of a coach is we work with people who they want something to be different in their life and. They want to change it and usually it's the the individual is trying to change something externally in order to create a different internal experience and a lot of times what we got to do. |
| 01:32:12.00 | Max Shank | Which can work. |
| 01:32:18.00 | mikebledsoe | Which can work but which does work which we can get into because we can talk about Environmental patterns. Ah. |
| 01:32:25.22 | Max Shank | Because a pattern is a relationship with your environment. There's a relationship within yourself which is kind of what you're talking about. But you're never in a vacuum. You know you take someone out of their existing environment and you put them into a different one and suddenly all their aches and pains go away. |
| 01:32:43.90 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:33:03.12 | Max Shank | Worked with this guy joint pain everywhere everything hurts ah instead of being in Boston at home. He goes down to Florida on vacation none of his shit hurts and it's like well why do you think that is like you have to explore what it is about that environment that you're that you have unresolved. |
| 01:33:39.90 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:33:41.46 | Max Shank | That your body is like essentially crying out because your ah pain is basically your brain saying ah not like this. That's all just not like this.. It's not ah, it's not. Ah, like bad.. It's not Shameful. It's not good. Sometimes it's incorrect where where you feel it isn't necessarily where the resolution is going to be Found. It's just a nonspecific signal that says not like this if you do it a different way. Maybe so. |
| 01:34:36.18 | mikebledsoe | Right? just. |
| 01:34:52.28 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, so people at that spot on it pain is just ah, always talk about pain as a teacher. It's it's trying to teach you something and most people just sit in the pain because it is ah familiar. |
| 01:34:54.20 | Max Shank | But not like this. |
| 01:35:24.30 | Max Shank | Um, familiar I. |
| 01:35:31.88 | mikebledsoe | And people feel safe even in when it's painful. They'd rather feel if they feel safe in pain. They'll take that over you know the uncertainty and freedom and the a lot of times people want. You know who have been focused on changing something in their external environment even that they're not even really willing to make too many external environment changes because of what's happening internally of what that might mean for them and so yeah chicken of the egg. Yeah, and so if. |
| 01:36:21.98 | Max Shank | Um, that's a chicken or the egg type of situation too. Um. |
| 01:36:37.40 | mikebledsoe | If you've been beating your head on 1 way of making change and changing a pattern you may want to look at something else. So if you've been trying to change something environmentally or you've been trying to change your physical body and it's not working. Maybe you need to look at the internal body or you need to look at your relationships with people instead of just the environment. |
| 01:37:11.94 | Max Shank | And some people thrive on incremental change and some people thrive on radical change and is different for everybody you know, ah a lot of a lot of times where you make a leap forward in what you might call progress. |
| 01:37:14.92 | mikebledsoe | And so. |
| 01:37:32.18 | mikebledsoe | That's that's very true. |
| 01:37:48.16 | Max Shank | Because you took a giant leap toward a different environment or a different ah day-to-day Pattern It can be incremental or it can be radical. |
| 01:38:02.56 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, so a lot of times these these internal patterns if we can shift those there might be ah emotions that we're making mean something with our thoughts and then that keeps us from maybe moving from Boston to Florida. |
| 01:38:39.32 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:38:41.28 | mikebledsoe | You know I I remember coaching one woman at this point and she she did not want to be working her job. She's like I do not like my job I want to get out of my industry I don't want to do this at all. But I'm not good at anything else. That was the story that she had. She had this internal story of yeah, that's the pattern. Yeah, and so it once we got to a point where she and she made really good money is is. |
| 01:39:20.92 | Max Shank | That's the pattern. That's some software. Yeah. |
| 01:39:40.84 | Max Shank | M. |
| 01:39:47.70 | mikebledsoe | We had to really sit down and and break down is it worth the you know is it worth possibly a lifestyle change downward which by the way is one of the people just don't do it once they hit a certain level of lifestyle coming back down that is incredibly difficult. Um, if you're used to living off $200000 a year and now I'm gonna ask you to live off $100000 a year people I I would I would have a very hard time with it people freak out wouldn't they just don't know how to do it. It's pretty much stuck there. But um. |
| 01:40:54.24 | Max Shank | Tell you? what though they would figure it out if they had to and I can I can guarantee that you know what I love speaking of patterns. So a prison that's that's a series of matter and patterns woven together to keep people inside. |
| 01:41:03.80 | mikebledsoe | They would fake Always do always do. |
| 01:41:29.12 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 01:41:33.60 | Max Shank | Designed by allegedly pretty smart people and guys still escape. So prison is full of the criminals who got caught so arguably the dumbest of the criminals because a smart criminal is still outside of the Jail That's what prisons do. |
| 01:42:01.84 | mikebledsoe | No. |
| 01:42:08.62 | Max Shank | They put all the dumb criminals in Jail to leave the really clever ones out of Jail so they can have the easier pick of what's left. But if you take the smart architects who are putting together this box those really smart guys. But the level of desire to be free of that Burden seems to supersede all of that technical Expertise All of the guards all of the stuff I mean it's what doesn't happen a lot but it still happens. |
| 01:43:05.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, there's I mean if if you just study what's happening in the prisons right now not even escape but Gangs drugs. There's basically there's nothing but illegal activity happening in the prisons and the you know. |
| 01:43:25.50 | Max Shank | Gangs gangs. |
| 01:43:40.20 | Max Shank | Yeah, how could you stop it. |
| 01:43:43.86 | mikebledsoe | Ah, the stated the stated intent is for them to not be to not experience that. But yeah, you're basically just concentrating a bunch of people who got caught and ah will continue to do things. |
| 01:44:08.26 | Max Shank | Well I mean the prison system is a bad pattern. Um, because it it maximizes for ah, shame and isolation but not actually for compensation to the fucking victim of the crime.. The only thing we should care About. It does nothing for.. Ah. |
| 01:44:50.12 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, I mean if if somebody violates. |
| 01:44:56.80 | Max Shank | It's like it's like it's like okay so a crime was Committed. What are we going to do are we going to help out the victim. No What we're going to do is we're going to take a little bit of everybody's money including the victims and then we're going to take the bad man to a bad place so he can. Get really isolated and angry at everybody and probably link up with a murderous gang. Ah, That's what we're going to do I'm waiting for the punchline but there it's there's nothing. There. Yeah. |
| 01:45:55.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, that's a very poor social pattern. So so I mean that's that's the that's the inside of you know of culture right? culture is the inside How we how we pattern our so our society. So. |
| 01:46:24.60 | Max Shank | Right? Well how you discipline how you discipline society right? because Rule rule is the threat and discipline is the act right? So if you if the culture. |
| 01:46:28.86 | mikebledsoe | The criminal Justice system. |
| 01:47:02.78 | Max Shank | Is in a bit of a dysfunctional abusive schizophrenic relationship with its policing of Behavior. Do you think that naturally a lot of people would do the same thing internally so that internal or pattern of how you ah Govern or police. Or discipline your own behavior whether you do it with blame and shame and isolation of that part of you versus acceptance and learning and reeducation of that party right? It's like you're putting the same experience through a very different. |
| 01:48:03.64 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:48:17.88 | Max Shank | Filter which I mean look the way we make Filters is really really tinier and tinier Meshes just like a net a water filter and a net that you catch fish with the the main difference is the size of the openings. |
| 01:48:49.26 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well, it's interesting when I think about these patterns I think about how they begun or began begun began and um these these patterns are fractal in nature so they usually started off as. They always start off as something small if we look at the pattern of humanity and um, there were not that many people on this planet five hundred years ago if you if you went to Paris France Five hundred years ago there weren't that many people there. I mean it was big for its time but compared to now it was just so tiny but all the rules all the ideas about how society should be governed stem from that time and. |
| 01:50:07.24 | Max Shank | M. |
| 01:50:29.82 | Max Shank | From France five hundred years ago or from the greeks like two thousand ish years ago like de ah when was democritus. |
| 01:50:38.58 | mikebledsoe | Well yeah, you keep going for their back but I'm just using people can I think people I think people can possibly like if we don't go too far back. But yeah you you keep going further and further back you go to the greeks you go to the hebrews you go to the Egyptians and you you follow the the thread. |
| 01:51:04.88 | Max Shank | Right? I for an eye you follow the thread which is interesting because it's like um how they did history for a while was through these tapestries and they would actually tell a story through the the chain. |
| 01:51:16.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:51:30.24 | mikebledsoe | A. |
| 01:51:44.20 | Max Shank | So it's it's really funny ah connection I made the other day and there are too many word puns to follow, but the funny connection I made is that a link is one connection and a chain is multiple connections in sequence Dna multiple connections in sequence. So that's a big difference. Um. In how those connections work together. Ah um, a chain is many connections. A matrix is also a different orientation of many connections and so different elements have different structures. That are more matrix-like or more chain-like like for example, long chain fatty acids that sort of thing so there are these um, different ways that we connect to things and a lot of it like you said tracing the thread. Back that's what we try to do. We're trying to go back and figure out where those connections started being made and the further back you go. It's none becomes None None becomes 2 None becomes 3 3 becomes all things that was in the dao two thousand years ago that's a pattern that a guy wrote down and we still can't ah absorb it. We can regurgitate it we can bounce it around. We can modify it but all those all those written things left a pattern and that is I think the story of. Human supremacy when you get right down to it. It's the fact that we were able to accumulate written knowledge and access it really quickly so you can take I mean right now on Youtube there's a thing learning about how materials are put together. Ah, Youtube channels called us auto industry and they take you through hydraulics and gears and aerodynamics and drag and they take you through all of these different things. The videos are super crystal clear simple and it's like you took that expert. His whole life and synthesized it into 10 minutes but those 10 minutes were based on generation after generation after generation of patterned ah accumulation of knowledge. So it's like ah, an external brain so we could. Ah, decode for later just very similar to Dna. It's basically a code for making a car or Dna is like a code for making proteins. But it's all it's all based on our ability to keep a record of it and a Dna of course is a living record. |
| 01:57:14.86 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well I think about what you were saying with written. Ah we have records written and up until what one hundred years ago most people were were illiterate and a small percentage of the population could even read. So only a small percentage of population had access to understanding and not only that the books that they had access to they usually existed in a university and so there was ah a highly It was a high concentration of knowledge that. People studied that were dictating society and then about one hundred years ago literacy started to really take hold and you know because they talked about the printing press but the printing the printing press it preceded literacy without the printing press. There wouldn't be literacy but the technology. Ah. Of there being an abundance of books caused the human mind to go be curious about that enough to study how to read to learn it and now we fast forward. |
| 01:59:36.12 | Max Shank | Printing press I think that was a big thing for the gutenberg bible right. |
| 01:59:39.38 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and I think the I think the benefit of back then was there was a limited amount of things that you could consider and you didn't have to look. You didn't have to sift through as much to go back to the beginning. Or as far back to the beginning as you could now we pull out our phone and there's videos and everything that have trapped us in what's happening right now. The the average American Yeah, the average. Yeah yeah, it's not right now right now it's it's they're sucked into. |
| 02:00:37.10 | Max Shank | Somewhere else though. |
| 02:00:55.80 | mikebledsoe | What's happening. Well no way that they're they're they're considering what's happening today. What is happening today that matters. |
| 02:01:11.20 | Max Shank | Ironically, it's a portal to anywhere else than here and now that's what's funny because you're saying it's like they're looking what's happening now elsewhere but ironic you're right? But it's also kind of ironic because you're looking for anything else. |
| 02:01:37.78 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, but the yeah my point is that time the time consideration is is so short like what happened last week doesn't matter anymore. It only all that matters is today and people are so people are so yeah. |
| 02:01:40.80 | Max Shank | But here and now. |
| 02:01:53.80 | Max Shank | Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay so that's insanity. That's insanity full on insanity. |
| 02:02:15.48 | mikebledsoe | People people are so engrossed they have so much data coming in about what matters today in the whole world that they think they should yeah they don't have boundaries but that person is totally ingrossed andgross in what's happening now doesn't have the opportunity to look back in history. |
| 02:02:29.48 | Max Shank | Because they can't draw boundaries. |
| 02:02:54.90 | mikebledsoe | To go back and say how was consciousness formed. How did we come to these considerations. What actually is science. There is. |
| 02:03:07.94 | Max Shank | Well think of the usefulness of code and the usefulness of 24 hour news it is antithetical so a book is code a person is the computer Basically that runs that code. And so if you want something to be organized. It should be organized by outcome or by subject or by material. But if you have it organized by what the fucking pricks are talking about on the Tv today. That's the worst organization possible and it's very difficult to get any kind of good information out of that and you're going to be basically putting out your own schizophrenic psychological fires because you're like oh my god didn't realize what was happening in Serbia and then the next week you're like oh my god I didn't realize what was happening in. South Africa and then you're like oh my god I didn't realize what was happening to the veterans and then pretty soon you're whipped up into this frenzy where you're upset about everything but you can't do anything about it and it makes you feel so disconnected because. What you're aware of your radius of awareness and your radius of control are so far apart and that goes back to why working with stuff with your hands even just moving stuff around like moving weights around with your hands that'll make a big difference. It'll connect you to reality. |
| 02:05:55.26 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 02:06:07.56 | Max Shank | Go climb a tree. Go take a walk Boom you're immediately connected into reality into moving your body locomotion or projectiles moving other stuff and if you are if you're just whipped into this frenzy because you know people are trying to program other people. It's all we do. In fact. |
| 02:06:24.40 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 02:06:46.70 | Max Shank | Pretty much as we try to program other people. Ah usually with the best of intentions too like I'm sure there are None of people who think school is like a good idea and and I just don't but that's fine. Yeah yeah, they they probably want people to like. |
| 02:07:08.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, their heart's in the right place You think it's best for the kids. Well people also think that it's um, ah just they they think I think a lot of people they go Well I did it so it must be good. So other people should do it I mean that's. |
| 02:07:21.12 | Max Shank | Behave themselves and like get married and like kept. |
| 02:07:41.16 | Max Shank | Um, well and that's even a different thing like it. It's like hazing. |
| 02:07:47.92 | mikebledsoe | That's big in the military of like I'm looking at the training and I go this doesn't really make sense. We're not really optimizing for getting better at our job. They're like well this we we went through it and no I'm like all whatever. |
| 02:08:14.64 | Max Shank | Sometimes things are done a certain way because it really is the best way and sometimes things are done a certain way literally just because that's how they've been doing it and no one can imagine a different no one even tries to imagine a different way. |
| 02:08:25.96 | mikebledsoe | Sometimes. |
| 02:08:54.30 | Max Shank | You know and that's why you don't want to fight things Anyway, speaking of patterns when you fight something you immediately create a counterforce even if you punch the shit out of that thing upon that connection of your fist and that fucker's face. There's a counter force going right back into your fist and then more. Metaphorically speaking you're going to create a counter response to your active opposing Force. So That's why it's always better to obsolete than to fight if you have the option. |
| 02:09:52.98 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I was reading a book yesterday that was talking about that is the the the people who are censoring are fighting. They're really fighting decentralization but censorship creates the necessity for decentralization and. You know Twitter Facebook Instagram they're trying to fight misinformation but the harder that they tried to fight misinformation with censorship the more prolific decentralization becomes because people start getting they start leaving the platform to go. |
| 02:11:07.18 | Max Shank | It's natural. It's like cat and mouse. It's like it's natural cat and mouse evolution. The cat evolves longer claws. The mouse gets smaller and more clever. Ah same kind of idea right? You have hackers and then you got people who work in. |
| 02:11:09.80 | mikebledsoe | To go to something That's not a platform. Yeah. |
| 02:11:42.86 | Max Shank | Ah, software security which of course are also hackers. But they're basically like 1 upping each other all the time just the way that creatures have seemed to ah grow and evolve and fork out into these different sort of test branches almost. |
| 02:12:13.96 | mikebledsoe | Now. Yeah. |
| 02:12:20.66 | Max Shank | So it's better to obsolete and speaking of the patterns like we were talking about. Ah, it's hard to recognize which of the programs coming in are important and not important a lot of the time I think that can be a real challenge. |
| 02:12:53.38 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, well that's a pattern too. The things that you're filtering what's important and not important so fast that it's it's built up over the years of life that you go. |
| 02:12:57.58 | Max Shank | Most everything is ah like not important that. |
| 02:13:31.62 | mikebledsoe | This is this is important. Not important people decide really quick and they miss opportunities really great opportunities all the time just pass right by them. There's there's this thing called the reticular activating system are familiar to ah Ras. Okay. |
| 02:13:41.52 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 02:14:02.20 | Max Shank | No, but I'd like to be. |
| 02:14:09.30 | mikebledsoe | You probably are you just probably don't know by name and it's it's if I start if I go out and buy a red truck. What am I going to see on the road all the time a red truck. Yeah, we prime we primed the system. |
| 02:14:26.64 | Max Shank | Okay I do know what you're talking about. |
| 02:14:42.64 | mikebledsoe | For now seeing red trucks because red truck has become very important to me I just spent $50000 on a red truck and I love this thing and I have this emotional connection to it and so now I start seeing them everywhere so the same thing happens with ah. |
| 02:15:04.80 | Max Shank | Whoa. |
| 02:15:22.16 | mikebledsoe | People and their patterns is they they notice patterns and make things important only because that's always how it's been, but you can you can intentionally change the pattern of your mind through things like mantras or by by having a conversation with someone else who can create. Help create a possibility for you. You have a conversation you and I have a deep conversation about a topic and the next thing I know I'm meeting people who can help me with this opportunity. Maybe you and I have this business idea and all of a sudden people start coming through that can contribute to this business idea. And that's the that's the ah Ras and that's most people's ah Ras is really just running the same program all the time they're noticing the same things that no purple cows. Yeah, but if you can. |
| 02:17:00.86 | Max Shank | No purple cows. You're just seeing normal stuff. |
| 02:17:14.55 | mikebledsoe | Intentionally go in there and tinker with the pattern of how you think which is fairly easy then you can start seeing new opportunities. |
| 02:17:31.86 | Max Shank | You know what's wild is the only reason you can see anything at all is because of Pattern recognition your your eyes just giving you a very um surface level reflection of photons that have bounced back and each. |
| 02:17:44.45 | mikebledsoe | Now. |
| 02:18:11.62 | Max Shank | Color has a different ah frequency to it and you have different Organs rods and cones in your eye that decipher those and eventually it does create this image but the only reason that image means anything is because of Pattern Recognition. So if you um. Try to like if you kind of simplify it down if you see a wall of triangles and then one square in there, you're going to be like whoa. That's ah, that's a little weird. You're going to be like what's that square doing in this wall of triangles and vice versa and that's why as you get to be ah like to have more simple type of vision like a lizard. Ah, many Lizards at least they can't really see stuff unless it moves and that's why they say that the eye is attracted to movement and when you start getting into the neuroscience of Vision. It's It's a deep deep Rabbit hole. In understanding the patterns around you but it just shows you once again, what it's useful to show you so you can find the banana and not get eaten by a tiger or a hawk or something like that. |
| 02:20:29.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well is where something where psychedelics get really interesting. Take a couple hits of acid and you start noticing what it what acid one of the things it does lsd it. It starts creating new connections in the brain. Usually the neural connections are going between the None shortest points between the None and that's one of the things that creates the pattern of attention. Yeah, and mushrooms do this lsd does this but it starts the. |
| 02:21:16.80 | Max Shank | Um, just like fungus and most things most things yeah water. |
| 02:21:36.36 | mikebledsoe | It starts connecting parts of the brain that have never been connected before and even there's this thing called I think it's Synestasia where you can see colors or or taste sounds yeah see music and um, but yeah, yeah, bet. |
| 02:21:51.84 | Max Shank | He see music. Yeah sounds cool I've never experienced that myself I would love to see music I mean I've seen like us. |
| 02:22:14.40 | mikebledsoe | And you've never seen music. |
| 02:22:27.14 | Max Shank | Ah I've seen us use pretty cool tools to turn sound waves into vibrating Sand or lasers or sine waves or. |
| 02:22:35.26 | mikebledsoe | Um, there was a day I had I was on 2 hits ass and maybe 4 somewhere in there and um, sometimes I heard to tell what you took I was listening to music and I was looking at this picture. |
| 02:23:06.10 | Max Shank | It's another reason why you're not the research department hard to know if it was 2 or 4 Okay, so don't go to Mike for the recipe. Okay I'm not sure if it's one tablespoon of baking soda or one cup I don't know. |
| 02:23:22.94 | mikebledsoe | Ah. Whatever same thing. Ah so but I'm looking I'm looking at a painting and with each beat of the meat of the music. The colors are changing and the music and the painting are interacting and the painting's actually not that colorful. There was maybe. |
| 02:23:41.60 | Max Shank | It's not the same thing. |
| 02:24:09.88 | mikebledsoe | 3 or 4 colors total but colors were changing and then there were images that were they were appearing that I didn't notice before but you could also go hiking out nature and then it disrupts the patterns of what you already see because people walk they can go walk a trail or they go walk around their neighborhood and they don't. |
| 02:24:21.74 | Max Shank | That's cool. |
| 02:24:49.62 | mikebledsoe | They kind of notice the same things they don't notice the same things I mean people miss stuff all time if if you you know you've probably been hiking with people and you're noticing. It's like oh or they notice something you don't but if you're on something like Lsd you're gonna notice. So many other things and that's why a lot of times people really don't move much. They don't they're not going to travel a long distance when on that that medicine and they're going to because they're so busy noticing the palm of their hand and looking at oh my gosh look at all these lines and. |
| 02:25:30.82 | Max Shank | Let he. |
| 02:26:01.58 | mikebledsoe | And your ability to see is just is is so enhanced but that's a really good example of something that disrupts a pattern to where you really can't go about your daily life like if I if I'm on asset and you ask me to go to a cashier and make a purchase. It's It's not going to happen I Just can't do the. |
| 02:26:35.44 | Max Shank | Hey. |
| 02:26:39.98 | mikebledsoe | Those patterns that are so ingrained that I whip my card out normally don't even think about it. But if I have to buy a sandwich at a festival. Um I'm having a problem. |
| 02:26:46.32 | Max Shank | My. Yeah I mean when you overdo it on any kind of substance Beyond like capabilities. Ah I think ah. |
| 02:27:13.20 | mikebledsoe | That's true. Well the difference between that like alcohol like you're just you're like you're so depressed that you can't make sense of the world and with Lsd Everything is so loud that you can't filter it all. |
| 02:27:33.56 | Max Shank | I Just remember when I was in college I was really ah hammered I Drank like a small bottle of tequila on my own and I got into an argument with a ticketing machine on the trolley and we couldn't resolve our differences So I ultimately had to jump. Over the turnsile. But I mean I I literally couldn't figured out how to pay $2 at ah at a screen but thats because I was inebriated Beyond belief but ah you mentioned something cool which is you notice more and what? what is a pattern. |
| 02:28:15.00 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 02:28:47.52 | Max Shank | Or what is a frequency without a sensor to pick it up so people have different levels of sensitivity to different things like when you're when you're learning how to emf is one when you're learning how to do massage right? I mean. |
| 02:29:00.20 | mikebledsoe | Um, emf is 1 Yeah. |
| 02:29:27.32 | Max Shank | I'm guessing a lot of people have experienced a good massage and a bad one and it's really obvious when the person can't feel the structures of your body with precision. You know it's very obvious and so. |
| 02:29:57.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 02:30:06.46 | Max Shank | There are different levels of sensitivity to like let's say your fingertips like think about Braille. For example, if you if you dragged your hand across a bunch of bumps on a page you would have no idea what they mean, but someone who had finally tuned their sensory skills. Would pick that up right away and I think that's what the the substances some substances can do is they can open up your sensor. They basically turn you into this big radar dish that is capable of picking up way more signal than usual and I think why it's so. |
| 02:31:04.68 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 02:31:21.40 | Max Shank | Ah, overwhelming to go walk around is because instead of taking in. Let's say five gigabytes of visual information. Every step now you're taking five thousand gigabytes or five terabytes of visual visual ah input every step and. |
| 02:31:51.12 | mikebledsoe | It's a lot. It's a big difference. |
| 02:31:59.88 | Max Shank | You know if you don't have the right equipment. You can't sense those things. That's why we see ah rgb Basically and that's why the little tiny lights on your screen that you may be watching right now are red green and blue because that's. |
| 02:32:12.78 | mikebledsoe | Me. |
| 02:32:37.58 | Max Shank | How we see things and other animals have different ah structure in their eyes like sadly for asian deer they can't really see orange so that makes a tiger that is orange with black stripes nearly impossible to see in that environment. But. If you put that tiger in a different environment like I don't know Alaska or some shit where it's or or somewhere where it's white. It's not going to camouflage very well at all. So it's all about that specific relationship between the deer that can't see orange the environment. |
| 02:33:32.56 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 02:33:54.64 | Max Shank | And the color of the cat and the pattern on the Cat. So. It's is very fascinating. Um, how it's always that relationship. It's really important to think of it in terms of what relationship we would love for some things to be totally universal, but apart from the fact that. You know everything is jiggling around all the time there aren't too many ah fundamental truths that are always the Case. It's usually ah contextual. |
| 02:34:48.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I want I want to bring this to I want to get some ah practical things here. So um, other than taking lsd talking about breaking out of old patterns and into new patterns. Ah, one of the exercises I actually got from Dan Sullivan and it's the None x thinking I think it's what he calls it ten x and it's all right? You're creating an offer. You're you're creating say a coaching package. |
| 02:35:40.34 | Max Shank | Hit. |
| 02:35:58.26 | Max Shank | The. |
| 02:36:01.82 | mikebledsoe | And you know so many coaches have a hard time imagining being able to charge more than 2 or $300 a month or $400 a month and so and so it's good to sit down. Go well what if you were to sell something for 2 or $3000 a month. Let's add a 0 here. |
| 02:36:17.92 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 02:36:39.58 | mikebledsoe | What would that offer look like what would make it that valuable and all of a sudden all these ideas come flooding in was a well shit man if I had that kind of if it was of that much value and I had some money to play around with I would actually be able to vote more of my time energy into this person or I would be able to partner with this other. Other thing and maybe I'm doing blood work now on top of what I'm already offering so the the None x thinking saying? Okay, what would you if we were to take 10 ah 10 times what you're currently charging what would that look like and on the flip side. There's also what would you offer. What could you offer for none of what you're charging. What would be $20 or $30 and now you start having all sorts of different ideas about and that's one way of breaking out of a pattern and it doesn't just apply to money it can apply to. |
| 02:38:00.56 | Max Shank | Totally yeah. |
| 02:38:31.20 | mikebledsoe | A lot of other things that the 10 x thinking or the None thinking if you had 10 times more time in the day you know what would you do or I really like having saying yeah you have yet 10 say there's 240 hours |
| 02:38:43.28 | Max Shank | Um, that's a good question 10 times more time in the day. |
| 02:39:08.40 | mikebledsoe | And the day that'd be That's more than a week. What if you what if you had a whole week to accomplish what and other people were just living a day. What would that look like. |
| 02:39:12.58 | Max Shank | I think I would. So if I if I knew I was going to live None times longer than them. |
| 02:39:33.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, that's ah, that's a good way of thinking about it. Let's just let's just imagine you're going to live to a thousand and everyone else is going to live to a None |
| 02:39:40.20 | Max Shank | Well so age isn't about the number of days you've been Alive. It's about the knowledge that you've accumulated in the experiences you've had right. Being alive lots of days doesn't mean shit if you spent your whole day just like living inside Watching. Ah. |
| 02:40:15.94 | mikebledsoe | Well let's just but we're measuring in days. That's the measure all right? Let's say in a month and um and in a month you lived um, you got as much done in six months and everyone else got. |
| 02:40:26.24 | Max Shank | What do you? So what's the question. |
| 02:40:39.78 | Max Shank | I mean. |
| 02:40:55.42 | mikebledsoe | Done in one month let's just look at it like that I think you do too which but most people don't like most people would what? what? what? What comes up leverage is 1 thing but also when we started thinking about time in this way I think. |
| 02:40:56.90 | Max Shank | I mean I already do that. |
| 02:41:10.50 | Max Shank | Right? It's about it's about leverage. It's all about leverage. |
| 02:41:32.28 | mikebledsoe | It's a really great way to get away from comparison because if I if I stop I can't compare myself to someone else if we're talking about a 10 X difference in time if I'm experiencing a 10 X difference in time than other people which I think you're one of those people that experience time different. Than other people. Most people are cramming their schedule with back to back to back to back and have no time to breathe and you're someone who is ah has a lot more leisure space. Yeah. |
| 02:42:31.78 | Max Shank | It's hard to get me on a calendar like this show actually is wild because I've never understood the fact that we've been so consistent I mean folks like it. It really just goes to show how much I enjoy the experience because I and everybody else. We do exactly what we want all the time. Ah, we do whatever we think is going to give us the best result this is a lot of fun. So I do it if it's not fun I don't really do it and the idea of cramming a day full of appointments sounds awful but having the ability. To connect with who I like sounds sounds amazing. |
| 02:43:48.76 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so we have that that. Ah, if if you could say hey I'm going to live 1000 years how would you behave? How would you? How would you live each day. It would probably you would probably do things differently and if I were to say that you experience. |
| 02:44:16.40 | Max Shank | I would. |
| 02:44:26.86 | mikebledsoe | You only have let's say 3 hours where everyone else has 24 hours in a day. How do you say you only have three what we call it three waking hours if you only had three waking hours well everyone else had a full you know 16 hour waking day and you only had 3 what would. |
| 02:44:33.30 | Max Shank | Um, yeah, right. Um, yeah now. |
| 02:45:06.56 | mikebledsoe | What would you do with your time and that's a really great way to find priorities because if you only have most people they look at their day and go I've got a 16 hour waking period of time and I don't have enough time in the day that's a problem. |
| 02:45:32.84 | Max Shank | Well I mean totally what you're talking about is the crux of success or power Even um, basically it's pressure or force per area or per. Distance right? Like how much effort or how much what can you? invest energy wise to get the largest return at the end. Basically ah if you could spend yeah and what you're doing basically is. |
| 02:46:29.10 | mikebledsoe | No. |
| 02:46:45.48 | Max Shank | 2 orders of magnitude mathematical thinking up and down so you have a None x swing in your ideas about that topic. So you're creating an upper and lower bound that are certainly further away than most people would naturally think which is why that ah framework or that. |
| 02:46:48.10 | mikebledsoe | Empty. |
| 02:47:22.38 | Max Shank | Ah, pattern to filter this idea through is so useful because it gets you to think how could I divide the membership by None how could I multiply it by 10 how could I get the cost. How could I increase the cost 10 x you know all that stuff. But it's. It comes back down to leverage ultimately because it's how much can you ah get out energy-wise for how much you put in and if we're using time as the limiting limiting factor because ah for us energy and time are. So closely linked. They might as well be the same thing for most for for the sake of most things but it ah it's still important to see like what gives you the biggest return on one hour of your time and just thinking about um. |
| 02:48:37.24 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 02:49:12.58 | Max Shank | What to do in terms of multiply by 10 divide by 10 very cool but it is ultimately about leverage. It is about how much you can get out for each one that you put in per unit of investment. |
| 02:49:36.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I said we wrap this up. My computer is giving me weird signals and let's bring it home. |
| 02:49:46.88 | Max Shank | Bring it bring it home bring it home I mean that's a see this is what I was worried about I feel like there's a lot left to discuss I feel like we didn't get into the different vibrations of very dense and. Porous materials and I we hardly got into computer programming at all but look I'm going to I'm going to keep it simple from my end all right when it comes to human beings today. Everything we have has been built off of the accumulation of these patterns. These patterns are our Dna. These patterns are the books that have sustained or the stories that have sustained the human programming. That has sustained and the programming or the code or the recipes for how to make really insanely awesome tools and I would say those are like the 3 practical things for human beings and then. I think it's fun to talk about crystals and metal and manufacturing and all that stuff but without the code without the instructions without the chain of events without knowing how to put all those links together in the proper sequence. You can't get a car. You can't get a cellphone. You can't even get a fucking good loaf of bread. The recipe's got to be done in order. The only way you'll know is with the pattern the code. |
| 02:53:07.20 | mikebledsoe | Excellent, yeah and look at your own Life. You're living out a pattern from day to day and if something's not going the way that you want it to go analyze that Pattern. That's what I call Dysfunction. Something's not going the way you want to go. There's a dysfunction in your pattern somewhere. And it's a fract.. It's fractal Nature. You may need to look really far back and mostly the patterns of behavior and the ways of thinking and your emotional patterns all stem from your childhood. So if you want to be able to to really look at that you might have to get into a really reflective space and maybe. Come to some hard truths and that may give you the opportunity to make new decisions moving forward and create New Patterns. Thanks for joining me max where where people finding you. What are we doing http://maxshaink.com. |
| 02:54:52.64 | Max Shank | http://maxshank.com at maxank. Ah, if you guys have any questions for the show or about the show I will I'll I'll answer him I think that would be fun like to connect with the audience a little bit more. So thanks for tuning in. Thank you Mike. |
| 02:55:15.22 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and I got a summit coming up this weekend for coaches out there. It starts on Thursday we're gonna go four to five hours a day and Thursday through Saturday and then if you're an academy member you you obviously get up extra access vi ipd on sunday. Ah, if you want to get it in on that it's a pay what you want go to shop dot http://thestrongcoach.com. Thanks y'all. That's a great deal. |
| 02:56:02.74 | Max Shank | That's a good deal. |
| 00:01.12 | Max Shank | Here's the deal. So there's a perfect, no intro this we're just here now you're here we're here I'm here you're here. We're all here the official show but this is for just the like inner club. But anyway I was going to say a case study. |
| 00:02.60 | mikebledsoe | It's the first one. |
| 00:16.94 | mikebledsoe | We'll do the intro when we start the official show. |
| 00:35.54 | Max Shank | On viewer engagement. One of the best I've ever seen was this Youtube channel called Ants Canada okay I think it's like a filipino dude. It's some asian guy who has this Youtube channel called Ants Canada and every fucking film. |
| 00:51.20 | mikebledsoe | Ahead. |
| 01:14.58 | Max Shank | Is about ants and ant colonies and he sells ant gear but basically he has this membership that he calls the Ac senate right? and so he basically has people pay to have a say in all kinds of weird stuff like. What are we gonna do with this new colony. What are we gonna name this thing and he gives them like preferential voting rights for what happens in the community. It's so crazy. How ah how much this guy connects with the audience. And's so it's a weird stuff ah because ants and ant colonies are pretty weird but talk about a case study for how to engage with an audience. This guy is dialed ants Canada case study ants st ants canada is a case study for. |
| 02:57.28 | mikebledsoe | Aunts Canada alright. |
| 03:07.76 | Max Shank | How to engage with your audience on multiple levels. He sells physical products. He has basically ah a membership where you get called? yeah like ants like the bug the insect. Yeah exactly it's incredible. |
| 03:28.28 | mikebledsoe | It's a and TS like like the like the insect to podcast. |
| 03:46.40 | Max Shank | No, it's video series Youtube thing. It's not a podcast but he sells ant colony plastic molded parts to people. He also has this this. It's the weirdest thing I've ever heard of like you would wonder like why is it that people would pay to get to make decisions but he has positioned the joy of naming a new ant colony or deciding what to do. In this like new video series as good as Tom Sawyer ah portraying the benefits of whitewashing offense. He's like wouldn't you guys like to make this decision for him like they are driving his content and paying to drive the content. It's. |
| 05:30.86 | mikebledsoe | It's really I mean it's as Facebook Twitter you know create the platform. Yeah create the platform and just let them let the let the people be the product was that the people will create the product. They'll be the product. |
| 05:32.38 | Max Shank | It's unbelievable Youtube oh my god what an acquisition. |
| 06:02.50 | mikebledsoe | And then you just sell advertising. |
| 06:08.32 | Max Shank | It's like ah what they did with was it Hong Kong or Singapore can't I remember 1 of them. It's like the guy's name was Lee coshing you ever hear that guy. Ah. |
| 06:30.90 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 06:41.24 | Max Shank | Rikash xing Hong Kong business magnate none richest guy in the world. His whole thing. He just like built up. Ah let's see hold on. I don't know his whole thing was about owning the port that that was the that was the ah whole story. Basically. |
| 07:24.20 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, it's kind of like the the gold rush. The people who made the most money were the ones selling the shovels I think that's where maybe Levi's came from the blue jeans is yeah I'm not 100% sure on this but I I think that ah that. |
| 07:38.16 | Max Shank | Right. Um, leave eyes. |
| 08:03.32 | mikebledsoe | That denim company or maybe another denim company Levi's make sense though. Ah made their fortune and their start by selling denim clothing to miners. It's really durable. |
| 08:25.20 | Max Shank | Like little kids or like go look for gold in the mines Now they probably send sell more to little kids I don't know I don't wear a lot of jeans. Do you wear a lot of jeans. |
| 08:36.64 | mikebledsoe | Look go look for golden mines. Yeah, yeah, off to I'd like to not anymore not with the not with the clothes that come out today I just discovered. Um. |
| 09:02.16 | Max Shank | I Hardly wear jeans. It's not that comfortable. |
| 09:15.54 | mikebledsoe | Viori made a new pant that is looks really clean, but dude great for travel because I can wear them in a hundred degree weather I might as well be wearing shorts they breathe So well, they look nice and you know I. |
| 09:24.24 | Max Shank | Ah. Are yeah. |
| 09:51.22 | mikebledsoe | I Don't even like to wear shorts I don't like to wear casual shorts I Either want to wear pants or athletic shorts and it might be something it might be like spillover from the the military because that's pretty much how it works there. But I think like casual shorts look silly on men. Ah. |
| 10:01.80 | Max Shank | A. |
| 10:17.60 | Max Shank | Right? right. Um, like what? what do you mean?? casual shorts like cargo pants. |
| 10:31.28 | mikebledsoe | That's just like you know like yeah like like cargo shorts or just like the shorts that are pants that are cut off. You know it's It's like those are kind of silly. It's like when I just wear athletic shorts I'm like an athletic shorts and fanny pack or I'm going to be wearing. |
| 10:49.96 | Max Shank | Ah, you know what. |
| 11:07.94 | mikebledsoe | You know some slacks. |
| 11:10.94 | Max Shank | You know what? I'm really into is like the like the ah Rei type of hiking pant and I and I want to get some that turn into shorts but I was thinking about it and I don't know if I would rather have them unzip all the way. |
| 11:22.78 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 11:47.58 | Max Shank | Or if I would want to have them roll up and clip on I haven't seen many like that there are some out there because I have I have a couple pairs totally but the utility I mean. |
| 11:51.50 | mikebledsoe | I think roll up and clip on makes more sense there. There are some out there I've seen some yeah the zip out I try to avoid moving parts as I try to. Until the zipper breaks plus rolling up just looks way cooler. That's that's the real Rob there they look cooler than having a zipper hanging off your shorts. |
| 12:26.52 | Max Shank | Is fantastic. So maybe maybe the roll up till the zipper breaks. Yeah, that's a good point. Those are my my favorite pants I got a couple at Costco they're just. |
| 12:57.00 | Max Shank | Yeah, that's a great point I went on a bike ride yesterday actually mountain bike ride for the None time in like years. Ah, all because I was learning about air compressors and how our compressors work. |
| 13:03.40 | mikebledsoe | I mean. |
| 13:34.56 | Max Shank | And so I was getting out my air compressor and I was like how how does my air compressor work. How powerful is this thing Really what kind of stuff because I bought one when I got my house because I was like every house needs an air compressor because I was ah like I didn't really know? Yeah, like yeah. |
| 13:59.32 | mikebledsoe | Oh like a proper air compressor one with a big tank. Yeah, not the kind that you carry around in your car. Yeah something you could use with tools and whatnot. Yeah yeah, I'm into those those. |
| 14:12.76 | Max Shank | Like a little pancake. No no I wouldn't It's a little too big and heavy for that. Yeah, like a nail gun staple gun that kind of thing and so those things are savage. |
| 14:36.38 | mikebledsoe | I've got some air compressor tools. If if you're gonna work on a car I don't know how I don't know how I worked on a car before I have that which I don't really work on cars much anymore. But I remember that being a major upgrade. |
| 15:04.26 | Max Shank | Yeah I think knowing how to put stuff together like that is such an underrated ability because I notice as I am problem solving in the garage with my hands. It makes me it makes it easier for me to visualize how to put other things together. Like Ideas. You know this attaches to this and you have to divide this. You have to sharpen this. You have to round off these edges. There are all these problem solving things that go on with how to put stuff together and it makes me even think of like mathematics how that factors in to. |
| 15:43.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well, there's um. |
| 16:20.62 | Max Shank | Putting stuff together and how much how much you just learn through the process of doing it. You know it's good to know arithmetic. But I have it. |
| 16:32.70 | mikebledsoe | There's a book. There's a book called the metaphors we live by and have you read it did you did you buy it on my recommendation or did you just happen to get it simultaneously. Wow Yeah I I hardly run in anyone who's read it. Ah. |
| 16:52.62 | Max Shank | I think I had I think I bought it before? Yeah yeah, ah yes, and like most books I've read I maybe retained like 10% |
| 17:08.18 | mikebledsoe | But have you read it. |
| 17:22.74 | mikebledsoe | Got it? Yeah so metaphors we live by really highlights how the mind works and that everything in the mind is a metaphor to something an objective reality and so ah so kind of like the. |
| 17:53.96 | Max Shank | Right now. |
| 18:00.98 | mikebledsoe | Projectile and project metaphor We talked about before yeah eyeballs. Um. |
| 18:06.94 | Max Shank | Eyeballs eyeballs are super reliable but they're not showing you objective reality because there are a lot of layers. |
| 18:19.88 | mikebledsoe | Well, they are but you're not filtering it. But anyways. |
| 18:32.44 | Max Shank | Well your eyes don't show you objective reality your eyes show you? How light is reacting with matter but there's a lot going on that is beyond. The visible spectrum is what I'm saying. |
| 18:44.12 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 18:55.10 | mikebledsoe | Totally. But so one of the things it talks about is ah like ontological metaphors and so one is how we refer to the mind. So the mind is a machine so there's all these examples of. |
| 19:26.90 | Max Shank | A. |
| 19:33.86 | mikebledsoe | Ah, that in in the English language the mind is a machine and it's also brittle and so when you look at the English language as a whole the majority of the references to the mind is that it's a mechanical thing that's brittle. |
| 19:48.36 | Max Shank | A. |
| 20:09.12 | Max Shank | Right? It sounds dangerous. Sounds like a dangerous belief to me like that that makes me a little queasy even based on how I see the mind or how I would try to define the mind or even just the brain. |
| 20:13.48 | mikebledsoe | And so ah, people believe that it yes and. |
| 20:44.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, but but you know and and it's common language is as people are talking are unconsciously talking about it in this way. So they're further embedding this thing is true and so they they they don't know how to treat their own own mind or organize it because they actually have an incorrect. |
| 20:48.30 | Max Shank | Like the organ because I think that's different. |
| 21:00.58 | Max Shank | Um, right right. |
| 21:23.92 | mikebledsoe | Or an inaccurate view of what it actually is ah so one of the things the book talks about is how we use objects to ah create Concepts so anything that's conceptual. We're having we need to. |
| 21:28.26 | Max Shank | He no. |
| 21:48.00 | Max Shank | E. |
| 21:58.28 | mikebledsoe | Associate it with an object out in physical space and so ah, one of the things that I've noticed I'm in total agreement with you I've been I've been meditating on this because I read that book about a year ago and I noticed that as I've been doing more physical tasks and building things that my ability to problem solving in the conceptual realm has gone way up and anytime I'm having a conceptual problem I go work on something that's on an object I go build something or fix something. Ah. |
| 22:45.12 | Max Shank | A. |
| 23:07.18 | mikebledsoe | All of a sudden the world makes more sense and I think part of that is if we spend too much time in the conceptual Realm without being in the objective Realm Then we end up. Ah, we end up way out in this place that doesn't make any sense. And and we become ungrounded and I know you and ah I are alike in this way because we love the mental Masturbation. We'll go off into some conceptual Realm and start changing. You know, ah physicists do this. They'll change one lot of physics to solve a problem and then they try to. Bring it back and so and then reapply to law and and it's one way of doing experimentation but the problem is a lot of people start doing that and they never come back to Earth and so I think having that balance between doing things and objective reality and conceptual. And conceptualizing things is really really beneficial. |
| 25:12.48 | Max Shank | Oh Yeah I was laughing so many times there because it makes me think about how enslaved people are by thinking certain things matter and the word matter is funny right? Because. Stuff matters. Ah you know water is matter air is matter and these ideas that we have. It's like we think too many things matter that aren't matter at all. |
| 25:51.44 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
| 26:02.36 | mikebledsoe | This bottle is matter. |
| 26:26.50 | mikebledsoe | Ah, well does just to make the statement that something is matter that isn't matter pulls you out of reality. You've become ungrounded. |
| 26:28.36 | Max Shank | And you are just more and more divorced from reality because hold right? of course look um these words and ideas are. Very useful and it's never the complete truth because they're just symbols right? but they are concrete enough to give us the plans to make a plane or a computer I mean that's all language derived and that's how the matter is directed. So. The ideas are like the pattern like Pattern Pattern father and the stuff the substance the matter the mother ma her modern is ah guided by our ideas. But if you don't have what's that yeah. |
| 28:09.34 | mikebledsoe | Oh man I'm loving these metaphors that that makes so much sense because that the father is is the structure of like the pattern structure and the matter is the stuff. |
| 28:23.80 | Max Shank | Yeah, if you don't yeah if you don't have the father's the pattern the Pattern the pattern right? mother is the matter. Yeah, the stuff and the ah the energy. |
| 28:47.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 28:55.84 | Max Shank | It's like kinetic and potential I mean there are a lot of ways that you can ah yin and young and dichotomize these ideas right? But ah my point is that we are made of matter you eat an orange. You actually are that orange is becoming you. And your body is able to break it down into its basic components and then that stuff becomes you and the stuff that doesn't become you becomes shit or sweat or something like I mean it's crazy, but it literally becomes you so this idea. That when you um, get your hands involved. You get so much of your brain involved and then it's rooted in a reality that is very easy to understand. It's very It's all about, um. God I guess it's all about power really when you get down to it because we're talking about ah force times distance ah or work over time is power ah, power is work over time work is force times distance. And that's that's a reality that's easy to track momentum things like that all this dark matter. Ah like black hole shit is mental masturbation. It's fine. It's mental masturbation though. But once you start getting in there and you can do macrame you can. Ah, make something out of wood. You could carve something out of Clay. Ah but building that connection between your creativity and your curiosity and this physical reality is critical and if you apply that same thing to fitness. Fitness is essentially ah how well you're able to deliver force how well you're able to deliver force into your right leg so you can run and take a step with your right leg and how well you can absorb. |
| 32:56.36 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 33:21.00 | Max Shank | And return Force I Mean That's why my latest training program is called elasticity because it's all about absorbing and returning forests without ah permanent deformation and that's that's like as close as you can get to the best longevity practice. And we all have our pet loves for ah what makes fitness good or what makes you live a long time. But if you ah you know have good friendships and family kind of ties if you have fun and if you. Ah, fast. So You just don't eat too Much. You'll live a really long time even if you're just like medium elastic Fitness you just need ah a basic level of how to interact with your environment with these alternating forces. |
| 34:48.74 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 35:06.26 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 35:11.64 | Max Shank | Ah, so it just it's very centering even climbing a tree go climb a tree and then you are like intimately associated with the forces required to lift you up off the ground and once you're in those situations you have room to explore and then this. Idea of like what matters or like what you should be fucking prideful of like I God I was just thinking the other day you know almost every holiday is about victimization that we have. Like almost every holiday is like it fucking kills me because we have like okay we have like memorial day that's ah, it's for the people who were killed like we are appreciating those poor victims but that's what they were. They were victims and of course we don't talk about like why they were victimized. |
| 36:44.78 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 37:07.34 | Max Shank | Because people don't really like that when you go in? Oh dude I'll be fucking kicked right out of the cemetery if I say these guys died for nothing but the fucking ambitions of old politicians with nothing better to do than tell other people how to live their fucking lives. |
| 37:07.66 | mikebledsoe | Of you start getting into that but people will get offended. |
| 37:46.40 | Max Shank | And so people don't like people don't like that no way because you know to generalize Bobby Joe went into that Vietnam and he did his country proud and that is a way better belief to take with you than he died for nothing. |
| 37:46.40 | mikebledsoe | Um, people don't like that. No no. |
| 38:08.42 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, you know what? um. |
| 38:25.90 | Max Shank | But some fuck fuckwit politicians who just think they know best right. |
| 38:32.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I um, my girlfriend and I are out. We do things around town and Texas is a very patriotic place and I which means I get a lot of discounts because I'm a veteran and. |
| 39:04.54 | Max Shank | The. |
| 39:09.66 | mikebledsoe | I get a 5% discount on my guns at Cabels. Ah, it's i't I can't get a discount on guns anywhere. Ah yeah, but I get in free at play at parks and stuff and in Texas where other people are paying to get in anyways. So I get. |
| 39:20.44 | Max Shank | That's pretty cool and. |
| 39:46.30 | mikebledsoe | Hit with thank you for your service pretty frequently and and Ashley my fiancee she she knows how I feel about every you know about a lot of things she goes. What's it like what's it like to hear that because you know I always just say oh yeah, you're welcome. You know that's what my. |
| 39:49.18 | Max Shank | If. |
| 40:05.30 | Max Shank | Um, ah a threat. |
| 40:24.30 | mikebledsoe | My my pleasure you know, whatever it is that comes to mind at the time you know whatever I'm just trying to make them feel good about them giving me a compliment or whatever. But and when I did join I did think I was going in to be of service to humanity that was. |
| 40:29.28 | Max Shank | Ah, thank you. |
| 40:42.14 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 41:01.94 | mikebledsoe | Impression I was under but the yeah where I stand now is like yeah I don't feel proud I don't feel ashamed I kind of just I'm very neutral about it. It's I've dealt with the fact that I got duped and like. |
| 41:19.78 | Max Shank | He no. |
| 41:36.18 | Max Shank | I Guess you could call that neutral. Ah. |
| 41:41.94 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I mean I got well I got duped and I've accepted it I'm at peace with it right? like we've all been duped. We've all been duped and you know what I'm I'm lucky because you know I did get some really great experiences out of that that made me a very resilient guy and. |
| 41:52.52 | Max Shank | Ah, ah, okay, right. |
| 42:08.80 | Max Shank | Yeah, and. |
| 42:17.24 | mikebledsoe | You know there's There's a lot of benefits I got from it most mostly the discounts but the. |
| 42:28.64 | Max Shank | I Just imagine if someone said take you for your service and he said yeah I was probably a mistake. Or or just like I wouldn't recommend I wouldn't recommend it. |
| 42:46.66 | mikebledsoe | Ah, you know I'm I'm trying that out. Well, it's bad enough that people are going to hear this on the show. Ah, but yeah, it's like ah that's all we know. But yeah, it's um. |
| 43:08.84 | Max Shank | Um, hey look it's not for everybody. It wasn't for you. That's all we know it wasn't for you. It wasn't for you. |
| 43:24.40 | mikebledsoe | But what you're saying is accurate because the the way Well the well we can go back to the holidays. But when I look at when I look at um, the government and military service and all these things is when I started looking at the government is just there's a book called the Sovereign individual and in that book they talk about how. |
| 43:28.98 | Max Shank | These holidays. |
| 44:04.14 | mikebledsoe | Formation of government and how they were there to protect farmers from people who would come and take their shit and if they didn't hire them. They were gonna take their shit and if they did hire them. They're gonna take a percentage of their shit and so ah. Basically when you. |
| 44:42.80 | Max Shank | Basically you got guys with the swords and you got guys with the hose right till in the field then you got a sword guy and you got a hoe guy I'm more of a hoe guy I think. |
| 44:46.40 | mikebledsoe | Exactly and some and yeah, some so like in the beginning it was just like who who is ah who's got the most brute force and then over time they accumulated armor horses like a ah Knight in armor. Can take out like 20 people on foot. You know like the this is yeah this is this is it and so true that yeah, but but here's the thing is before the and but. |
| 45:30.20 | Max Shank | This is grounded in reality too unless one of those guys on foot happens to have a really nice bow and arrow and then that guy's fucked speaking of projectiles. |
| 46:00.98 | mikebledsoe | Before the invention of the rifle to become skilled to be able to afford the time and the money to be a great soldier. It was it was rare and so only a select few had been in the position to do so and so. |
| 46:36.56 | Max Shank | Even ants do this. They divide up the labor into soldiers and the workers back to the ants again. |
| 46:39.00 | mikebledsoe | You it. Yeah, yeah, and so the so the whole formation of the idea government has been basically the same it's it's identical to the Mob. You know you're. |
| 47:13.84 | Max Shank | It's identical to any group. It's about specialization Ideally right. |
| 47:17.42 | mikebledsoe | I Know if any group but like but any group that uses the threat of Force violence and coercion. So not every organization does that and so. |
| 47:40.12 | Max Shank | Um, is there any group where everybody does the same thing I think it's always about specialization. |
| 47:48.78 | mikebledsoe | It is about specialization but what I'm saying is what makes these organizations special is that they ah they rule by violence and a threat of violence coercion. These things that that's how they get people to comply. |
| 48:25.26 | Max Shank | Um, without nonviolently with like words instead of Swords basically. |
| 48:27.50 | mikebledsoe | With their rules. Well they use words. But if you disobey those words you will then meet you know. |
| 48:46.80 | Max Shank | Well, that's leverage right? That's that's really, um, how control works because if you if you ah if you don't follow the words and they just have to sword everybody to death. It's.. It's like not very good for anybody like now all the farmers are now all the farmers are.. It's kind of like a strike.. Basically I mean all these all these parallels within the symbolism of language I I have this idea that words have evolved basically the same as anything else. |
| 49:25.76 | mikebledsoe | It's not good for anybody. Yeah, so they got to use the there's ah. |
| 50:01.92 | Max Shank | In Nature longer sharper Claws Stronger Armor Camouflage Decoy Venom you know people fucking hurt each other with words all the time and only sometimes do they hurt. |
| 50:25.80 | mikebledsoe | And. |
| 50:36.14 | Max Shank | Ah, people with actual like sticks or weapons or something like that and sometimes they turn them on themselves right? We we fucking think Shitty things about ourselves we put ourselves through these I mean ah I guess I'm a fitness guy so we put ourselves through these like ball bursting workouts. |
| 50:37.36 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, they've gotten so good at can most of the time. |
| 51:13.82 | Max Shank | That are only harming us because we're just like so desperate. Um for some pie in the sky vision that we have I mean it's crazy how much language causes harm and self-harm. But anyway my point is like it's too inefficient. To go fucking hit everybody with the sword. It's way more efficient to just threaten the sword. |
| 51:54.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, the the the evolution has been that we use these words and so it was the words were simple and the sword was strong and then over time while the Swords gotten stronger. But the the words have become. People have gotten very clever lawyers are some of the most clever people on the planet ah politicians are basically they're just Lawyers. So These people are creating these words. Yeah, they create these words and you know, um, there are certain people. |
| 52:40.40 | Max Shank | Oh yeah. |
| 52:52.18 | Max Shank | Um, the word Warriors the word warriors. |
| 53:10.96 | mikebledsoe | Who are there's a very small population of people who are pretty much I think you and I fall in this category kind of like yeah you know those are just words and you want me to do this but I'm not going to and then you have the majority of the population that are like you're going to defy those words and. |
| 53:44.18 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 53:46.84 | mikebledsoe | And they completely freak out and they don't know what to do? They think that you're a bad person because you're ignoring these words. Um that somebody else put together and in order to try to control you so. |
| 54:07.22 | Max Shank | Well because otherwise like you are ruining their paradigm. You're destroying their sense of reality because they're like well I can't do that and I'm like actually there there are just consequences to everything you do you know that. |
| 54:18.14 | mikebledsoe | Totally destroying it. |
| 54:35.42 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, you can do anything you want. You can do a lot of things. |
| 54:42.84 | Max Shank | That's it you could do whatever there are consequences like if you tie a noose around your neck whack off in the closet. There's a much higher chance that you will die from hanging. But there's also a decent chance. You'll have an orgasm that's like None or so of the usual 1 |
| 55:20.40 | mikebledsoe | There's otherwise to do that You hit me up on my private blog on on how to do that without choking yourself. But anyways. |
| 55:22.40 | Max Shank | So. |
| 55:32.68 | Max Shank | Fellas you hear that Mike is offering orgasm boosters free orgasm boosters. What kind of percentage can you offer increase 50% increase a 3 hold on. |
| 55:40.64 | mikebledsoe | Free orgasm boosters at least 50% now now I would say out. No no like 300 I mean yeah and yeah, with with just common common things you can pick up at the store. |
| 56:07.68 | Max Shank | Ah, 300% increase |
| 56:19.18 | Max Shank | Like cocaine. Ah. |
| 56:19.76 | mikebledsoe | Nothing you don't have to go see a drug dealer. But if you no, no, no like like over the counter things. But then um, yeah, over the counter and then um, you know if you want to get into the other I can guarantee like a None x but you know that's going to require some hard to get ahold of. |
| 56:30.20 | Max Shank | Over the counter. |
| 56:55.60 | Max Shank | Honestly I think ah I think I think this would be something that you you could probably do a one pager on this for our premium Inner Circle club. |
| 56:57.88 | mikebledsoe | Substances. |
| 57:20.56 | mikebledsoe | I Feel like this whole episode's going to be an inner Circle Club show. Ah you know this is the commercial This is this is actually it. This is this one. We're giving away for free. This is the one you get for free from now on the pre ship. This. |
| 57:23.38 | Max Shank | Like I would be interested in like a little that's all it is This is just for the this is this is it. We're gonna air this and and to be fair, we might be Fucked. We might be fucked because this might get us. Ah. Extradited or what's the excommunicated because of all the stuff we've said. |
| 58:01.30 | mikebledsoe | Well this is why I want everyone to go and get a ah podcasting 2.0 app on your phone instead of Spotify because Spotify itunes. They could just take us off anytime they want because some sjw employee gets pissed off. |
| 58:24.12 | Max Shank | Oh my God can you imagine? Holy God I Think that's I think the pendulum is swinging back I think people are craving uncensored Oh I Love it. |
| 58:36.96 | mikebledsoe | So ah. I think so I think so but not but not the employees of Apple and Spotify. They're gonna be the last ones you know and Twitter but I it will shake out it but we need. But. |
| 59:00.98 | Max Shank | Yeah, we'll we'll see how it all shakes out I mean ah Seasons change Seasons change. |
| 59:19.58 | mikebledsoe | Decentralization is what will force it and so using a podcasting 2.0 app is part of the decentralization movement. So I like ah podverse myself. So if you just go and download podverses. Our shit will never be taken off of that. But. |
| 59:54.40 | Max Shank | Bu ya. |
| 59:59.20 | mikebledsoe | But Spotify has taken down None I think over 70000 podcast episodes in the last year yeah based on the content. No now they remove certain content. They even pull down some of Rogan's content |
| 01:00:12.90 | Max Shank | Whoa Really I thought they were cool. Not cool. Bummer I Do know that by the way if there was ever something that. Ah. |
| 01:00:35.00 | mikebledsoe | But not all of it. |
| 01:00:45.96 | Max Shank | Was valuable but let's be able to say words other this is a core value. This is a core value here. Okay folks this is this. It's rooted in reality look. It's fine talkytackytacky ever Blah Blah Blah blah. But as soon as someone comes in with the stick. |
| 01:00:53.40 | mikebledsoe | Come on. Well this goes back to what you were just saying. |
| 01:01:24.88 | Max Shank | You got to like fucking face that reality and so if we can't resolve our differences with words. There's only None choice left and that's physical violence I think everybody should be versed in physical and verbal violence. Not necessarily so they can be violent toward other people. But so they can recognize it number None and defend it number None |
| 01:02:07.86 | mikebledsoe | Well I like that I like to Define violence as the person who initiates force so I would I would say ah be well versed in debate because ah or or diplomacy right? So like to me. |
| 01:02:36.76 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:02:43.20 | mikebledsoe | War is just an extension of Diplomacy You know we were like oh diplomacy failed I'm like no this is just we're still being diplomatic. It's just a very violent diplomacy and so the same thing with the words is you know we start off with disagreement. We're trying to work it out things escalate We can't. |
| 01:03:06.64 | Max Shank | Interesting. |
| 01:03:17.88 | Max Shank | Great. |
| 01:03:20.60 | mikebledsoe | Find agreement in the words because people aren't You're right, People are not trained in the ability to listen to understand and then communicate the wall just goes up and you've talked about rhetorical fallacies before the wall goes up and then now it just becomes a mudsling contest. |
| 01:03:56.66 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 01:03:58.60 | mikebledsoe | That that will result if that doesn't get resolved in some way it will result in physical force. This is why the None amendment's important because if only yeah and and because if only 1 group of people has access to violence. |
| 01:04:13.74 | Max Shank | The None and the second those are almost all that's important. But. |
| 01:04:35.10 | Max Shank | Um, oof because then you go. |
| 01:04:37.56 | mikebledsoe | Then then we're in big trouble which takes me back to the point I was making hang on the point I was making which is like the when I look at when I look at ah government. It's hard to tell the difference between government and the mom because they're basically saying give us. A certain amount of your profits give us a certain amount of your of your hard work and we'll make sure that your shop doesn't get burnt down. You know we'll make sure your kid doesn't get beat up in the alley and they're basically saying the mob is basically saying. Overtly, they're saying we'll protect you from other people. Yeah, covertly, they're saying pretty much if you don't pay us None of our thugs are going to come get you which is which is the same thing that happens with the Us government is they say. |
| 01:05:50.12 | Max Shank | It's called a protection ring. It's called a protection ring. It's been around for a long time. |
| 01:06:09.36 | Max Shank | Ah, right? yeah. |
| 01:06:23.82 | mikebledsoe | We're going to protect you from all these outside guys and we got police officers stationed in there. We're gonna protect you as long as you. But if you if you don't give us a None of your life then we're actually gonna come fuck you up and so that's the price of the club. Yeah tough shit. There's like no way out. |
| 01:06:26.48 | Max Shank | Move. |
| 01:06:41.98 | Max Shank | Right? That's the price of the club and if you don't like it well tough shit This is the only club in town. It's the only club in town. It's like ah you know there is a thing about power companies. You know when you have a single. |
| 01:07:03.56 | mikebledsoe | And so well hang on. So so so so when I started when I recognized this this extremely similar ah view of government and the mom. |
| 01:07:16.98 | Max Shank | Go go ahead? yeah. |
| 01:07:38.98 | mikebledsoe | And I just started looking at all these governments around the world as just mobs that are controlling different geographical locations by by which um are mainly dissected based on Language. So if the language changes that's where the border begins. When there's a different language because you can't control people anymore because they can't understand you and so ah government control happens and within the borders of language and then you basically just have you just have. |
| 01:08:35.50 | Max Shank | K case that's http://dciendocappassosenorexplicka me and espanio poque non anddo. |
| 01:08:50.98 | mikebledsoe | Exactly. So. So so when you start looking at the world as or the government as just mobsters that are ruling really large pieces of geography and they're all. You know, jocking for position. Everything makes a lot more sense like the Russia Ukraine thing makes way more sense if you just think about it as a couple of mobsters that are that are jocking for position and the United States has done a good job of like. United States has done an incredible job of being very strategic in the way that it's done things. It hasn't it hasn't necessarily ah won with brute force for instance with the Ukraine thing is if you think about mobsters are running Ukraine right now right. Because anyone who has a government is being There's a mob and so those mobsters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well the good the good mobsters of Ukraine are um, just you know the the us government is lending them. What None |
| 01:10:50.92 | Max Shank | No, but those are the good mobs. We like them. They're the good mobs. |
| 01:11:18.20 | mikebledsoe | Billion dollars a month or something like that that they're never going to be able to pay back all right? So if only someone would come tell me what to think? So so then ah. |
| 01:11:22.22 | Max Shank | Oh my God I Wish someone would tell me who the good guys are and who the bad guys are if only someone would come and let me know what to believe about this. |
| 01:11:56.32 | mikebledsoe | So then you got so the way I see it is the us government has done an incredible job at buying the people of Ukraine as slaves and so because they're under the control of the Ukraine mob the ukraine mob how are they going to pay back that money they can't pay back that money. So basically they're going to be in debt to the us and the Ukraine is the breadbasket of europe so they produce the the lion's share of the wheat and other things necessary for making a lot of food products and in Europe and so now. The way I see it is the us government. Everyone is everyone is going. You know? Yes for Ukraine I'm like I'm like the us government just enslaved the people of Ukraine and you cheered them along the whole way and is like yeah we are like you know and that is um, that's 0 comment on what. Putin's doing you know whatever you call him more criminal. Whatever the guy's not a good guy. The guy's not a good guy but but people miss that. |
| 01:13:56.16 | Max Shank | It's it's about relationships. It's about relations. It's about relationships. It's about relationships and it's about trying to understand what the connection is between those relationships and in order to really get it. You got to reduce the number of parties down, you got to put the words like none and None out of your mind and just say what is the relationship between these different entities or individuals and what you're saying about the us specifically is. They recognize the power of both words and swords because words, okay, nothing scales better than words because it requires no material transfer. It requires only a transfer of pressure waves basically on some level and and. Transfer of ah it's just it scales way easier than actual bullets and actual swords and and if you have both then then you're like King of the castle. Basically so we have crazy weapons and we also have. |
| 01:15:38.90 | mikebledsoe | Ah, especially with the internet and everything just repeats easily. |
| 01:16:13.92 | Max Shank | Ah, lawyers and bankers and politicians that use words the same way that we're using Bullets and missiles and shit like that and we have we have ah stuff that's happening behind closed doors I mean Okay, let's talk about language again just for a second because. |
| 01:16:25.28 | mikebledsoe | Totally. |
| 01:16:50.54 | Max Shank | Want to talk about the word conspiracy conspiracy happening all the time people are meeting in secret to discuss plans all the time we would have to be totally naive if we don't think that's going on basically everywhere like every every group is meeting in secret. |
| 01:17:24.88 | mikebledsoe | The Cia is ah is a series of conspiracies. |
| 01:17:29.90 | Max Shank | We meet in secret we meet? yeah and of course they can't tell everybody everything I mean how fucking schizophrenic do you have to be your level 1 clearance your level 10 clearance I'm a level 10 cia wizard. So I know like 90% of the secrets but only 10% of this I mean it's. |
| 01:17:42.24 | mikebledsoe | So it's a conspiracy. Yeah. |
| 01:18:09.70 | Max Shank | It's Insane. So ah, kind of tying it back to how we use language and use ideas bringing it back to reality Once again, just doing something with material objects that exist somewhat. Independently of Language. You know how you interact with a tree or the ground of course you have the word tree and ground in your mind but your movement and your creative expression through physical materials. Even if you don't think you have a knack for it. It's very grounding experience. |
| 01:19:37.32 | mikebledsoe | Back to physical materials. Yeah, well they? um well what's interesting is my friend Jesse Elder he he's been studying the law extensively the last couple years and um. |
| 01:19:42.80 | Max Shank | Um, that that's what I tried to bring us on back because. |
| 01:20:17.64 | mikebledsoe | Basically looking at like the foundation of law you know, not you know what are all these little laws that are floating around that are getting passed all the time and changing. But you know yeah, but like what is the the sole basis and we go back in history. What is law. |
| 01:20:33.00 | Max Shank | To contract. It's It's just a contract that's it. |
| 01:20:52.36 | mikebledsoe | You know how does it operate so he did that and if you can figure out the fundamental principles of how these things work a lot of things get real simple so he did that and one one of the it's what. |
| 01:21:11.92 | Max Shank | It's conditional phrases right? I mean I'm not trying to diminish but isn't it like it's conditional. Phrases. It's consequences like the code of Hamurabi was a system of laws but they are very simple if you steal. A woman then you get your eye plucked out and you have to marry her some shit like that. Basically and if you're talking about arbitration which is a little different than law. Basically you are just dealing with an arbitrur like a judge who is deciding. |
| 01:21:45.68 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:22:20.32 | Max Shank | Who's right when they present like the clay tablets or something like can you imagine being. Ah, you know an arbiter back then but that's what they would do so that guy gets to decide but you have it's just enforcing contracts I think and every every relationship you have. |
| 01:22:22.72 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 01:22:43.74 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, that's what it comes down to. |
| 01:22:59.30 | Max Shank | Because a contract is oh gosh. It's ah it's a projected relationship. How about that using the words that we've been thinking about so a contract is a a relationship projection or a relative projection between one or more. |
| 01:23:17.86 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:23:31.28 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, you're gonna do these things I'm gonna do these things if we don't follow through then it breaks down. There's the consequences. |
| 01:23:39.44 | Max Shank | Entities yeah, and it works with yourself too. It works with yourself too. You make a you make a to do list. Maybe you sign at the bottom so I'm going to do this by the end of today you made a contract with yourself. You break the contract but you're also the judge here and you go like what happened. You know should I should I go to jail should I be full of shame or something like that should I punish myself. Do I get 50 lashes? Yeah, um, but I think we do that. |
| 01:24:15.46 | mikebledsoe | Should I punish myself emotional jail ah, ah so so jet so Jesse started digging digging into like the principles of law. And None of the results that I've seen in his life is. He's become extremely analog. Ah he is like he he sees the matrix I mean when you look at I mean the law is the matrix and so ah, everything that. |
| 01:24:55.98 | Max Shank | Totally. Ah. |
| 01:25:18.14 | Max Shank | It's a matrix. |
| 01:25:20.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it's a matrix I would I would say it's probably like based one of the base layers of the matrix and then um like the media sits on top of that. But um, he he's gone extremely analog like he's living. He's got twenty acres he's living out on it. He doesn't deal with crypto he. Ah, you know tries that work primarily in gold and silver and like getting he's getting very analog. He's using technology like he's installing a solar farm. He's doing. He's doing some things to harness technology but he's become very analog and. |
| 01:26:28.14 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:26:37.76 | mikebledsoe | What is valuable and so and what he values is analog and so in a world where right now so much of the value is digital and which is which is somewhat of a physical manifestation of something conceptual and so. |
| 01:26:49.52 | Max Shank | So true. |
| 01:27:14.22 | mikebledsoe | Because we're talking about Energy. Ah Bitcoin is just energy and because it requires energy from the sun whether it come in the form of solar oil. Whatever it is ah it it comes in the form of energy that's being exchanged so there is a physical component to it. But. Which is actually way more tangible than say the Us dollar which has ah which is primarily ruled by what whatever somebody thinks or a group of people think instead of being ruled by actual physical world laws and. |
| 01:28:15.72 | Max Shank | Um, that well money is its own like ah shared. It's actually a conspiracy so money is a human conspiracy just like language. |
| 01:28:33.40 | mikebledsoe | It's yeah well fiat currency would be yeah, say more. |
| 01:28:53.50 | Max Shank | That's that's it money is a conspiracy just like language I mean the fact that. |
| 01:28:55.70 | mikebledsoe | Some people some people understand I mean you're right? because there are very. There's a there is a handful of select people who make decisions in secret about the money supply. |
| 01:29:23.52 | Max Shank | Oh I mean just like it's not ah like a like okay so steak is not a human conspiracy like a dog still understands. What steak is it might know it by a different name like maybe steak for a dog is like. |
| 01:29:49.14 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
| 01:29:58.00 | Max Shank | Wolf Af or something like that I don't I don't know exactly what it's like for a dog but like money is and language are purely human conspiracies like we made all this stuff up because it's useful so they're useful lies. Essentially words are useful symbols so that we can. |
| 01:30:09.82 | mikebledsoe | I'll go ask my buddies dog. |
| 01:30:35.78 | Max Shank | Project these ideas ah into ah interchangeable parts Basically and that's what we're looking for with money is it's the ultimate interchangeable part because it's like ah an I O you that everybody agrees on it's a. Ah, accepted anywhere right? So it's money's like God It's if you believe in it it it is ah infinite Power. It's total potential and it's such a useful tool. There's no I can't. |
| 01:31:31.92 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:31:49.52 | Max Shank | It's so difficult for me to envision a society where we didn't have a way to exchange goods modularly. You know people talk about the fungibility or non-fungibility of token. Sometimes the fact that a dollar is a dollar is a dollar is a dollar is a dollar and I mean it did used to be backed by gold which was cool but let's not be too wistful over the glory days. But in any case. The fact that we have it and that we can change it and move it so quickly means that I can you know ah work under a bridge given hand jobs send it back to my scientist grandpa in Hungary and he can use that money. To build a nuclear fusion reactor or something like that right? That's that's incredible that you don't have to but based on my hungarian physicist ah grandfather I was thinking of him every time I gave a hand job under the bridge. |
| 01:33:40.52 | mikebledsoe | That's based on a true story folks. |
| 01:34:04.94 | Max Shank | I was just thinking this is going to be unlimited energy for everybody I'm not going to let you down pop pop anyway, ah, but but that's that's what I mean is like you you can turn hand jobs into cold fusion potentially and that is why money is cool. Ah, so we wouldn't have these computers and microphones the ubiquity of the cell phone like all this stuff was done because we were able to transfer this um potential of human action and it just it kind of reminds me of this funky idea I had. When I was none learning about like the coins and the cryptos and things like that and I thought it'd be cool to have something called like a handycoin that was ah just based off of the value that a person placed on like 1 hour of labor. |
| 01:35:50.38 | mikebledsoe | I Thought you were gonna say hand jobs but handicoin and a yeah. |
| 01:35:59.34 | Max Shank | No, not not not hand that would be even better. None coin equals one hj full stop. That's actually a better idea now that I think about anyway, but the whole idea was like you know you can put a posting on Craigslist or you can. Ah, go out to home depot and you can find like ah, a laborer who will do sometimes skilled sometimes unskilled. No no, no, no, but but but that's what that would be for is just for unskilled labor. Every hour is equal and so. |
| 01:36:43.94 | mikebledsoe | Um, are you are you saying that every hour is equal in value. No no okay. |
| 01:37:05.52 | mikebledsoe | Ah, so you create a caste system. |
| 01:37:12.36 | Max Shank | The value of that coin the value of that coin would be related to what someone is willing to do for an hour like 1 hour of unskilled labor. Ah, but at least it's tied to like. |
| 01:37:37.54 | mikebledsoe | Isn't that how just capitalism works. |
| 01:37:50.30 | Max Shank | The floor of ah one of of labor per hour right? It's like it's like it sets the floor which it is a value. Yeah, but it's so it's different. It's only correlated to ah. |
| 01:37:51.24 | mikebledsoe | So there's a minimum. |
| 01:38:02.88 | mikebledsoe | Sounds like a minimum wage. |
| 01:38:23.40 | Max Shank | Like someone actually doing real work I don't know like I said it's not a night. It's not an idea that I've taken over the finish line. Ah, but it's ah this idea that it needs to be tied to something and right now it's tied to our belief and that works. |
| 01:38:32.00 | mikebledsoe | I'm not sure I'm following. |
| 01:39:02.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I I think the problem that people have with money right now is that? Ah, there are a handful of people who are controlling how it flows so ah, not necessarily. |
| 01:39:03.26 | Max Shank | Weirdly enough it. It's not great, but it's okay like if. |
| 01:39:29.48 | Max Shank | Has that always been the case. |
| 01:39:39.64 | mikebledsoe | Not not to this degree I would say that. Um, so for instance when when the dollar is tied to gold money. Well I'm I'm talking about primarily money so like um so on 1 hand you have. |
| 01:39:52.24 | Max Shank | Are we talking about money or wealth or both and. |
| 01:40:16.00 | Max Shank | Um, like not. |
| 01:40:17.52 | mikebledsoe | And organization that decides. Ah how much the interest rates are going to be like what's what's the debt going to be worth and then you and then they also control the amount of money that's in the system. So those are like really big picture things. So so of when you're. |
| 01:40:49.44 | Max Shank | Oh yeah, big time. |
| 01:40:56.00 | mikebledsoe | When you're working with gold which you know all governments have inflated there even when it was gold. They did things like shave off the edges and you know there's ah until people figured it out and they lost faith in it. Yeah, they have so you can't fake it and so then um, so. |
| 01:41:14.14 | Max Shank | That's why those coins have ridges right? That's why they put the ridges on the coins. Ah. |
| 01:41:31.34 | mikebledsoe | The money supply and then the cost of debt is 2 major things that are that are employed big picture and then you have taxes so that I think the tax code is 176000 pages something like that. Ah, it might be a little bit maybe 76 maybe oh there. There's a. |
| 01:41:56.40 | Max Shank | I think maybe only 76 but but but but None like you that should be simple. |
| 01:42:09.52 | mikebledsoe | There's a ton of there's all, there's but there's basically all these rule the whole point in the tax code is to incentivize people under a certain type of behavior and it's it's. |
| 01:42:32.34 | Max Shank | And hide and hide what's actually happening and create as much of a smokescreen as possible for what's actually going on. |
| 01:42:43.48 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's they they want to they want to confuse like the majority of people need to be confused about what's going on because if the majority of people knew exactly what was going on there'd be riots in the streets. But the. |
| 01:43:07.80 | Max Shank | We would sell a lot more guillotines if that were the case Guillotine sales. That's that's what I'm actually getting into right now you know pendulums and government swing I think we're like perfect time to invest in guillot in Guillotines I think ah. |
| 01:43:28.34 | mikebledsoe | Well, how let's look at the tax code I got to do this search on the tax code. |
| 01:43:44.46 | Max Shank | You know you can sell your ultimate Orgasm formula and then I'm going to sell guillotines for the coming revolutions. |
| 01:43:53.44 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, we got figure I got to figure out how this tax code thing. Um all right. There's the myth of the 70000 page federal tax code. |
| 01:44:10.78 | Max Shank | It's really long. |
| 01:44:19.60 | Max Shank | It has to do with um like references to it because there are amendments to the tax code and there are cases that have modified how it's interpreted. |
| 01:44:38.52 | mikebledsoe | So the tax code has nearly tripled is it ah the tax code has nearly tripled and linked over the last thirty years um 70000 is not true. The tax code was only 20 so so it's it's. It's like triple of the None pages. So I think it's anyways thirty years ago is 2600? Oh no, none the tax code was only about 20. It's so funny and this blog says it's only None pages long. Um, yeah, but the point so. |
| 01:45:47.60 | Max Shank | Ah, it shouldn't even be 2600 words long fuckers. Let alone pages. |
| 01:45:50.40 | mikebledsoe | So um, yeah, so the so the so you've got a small group of people controlling the supply of the money you got a small group of people controlling the ah cost of the debt and then you have a small I think between. Ah, the senate the congress and all the the the the top government I think is around None and something like None something people so None something people are controlling 350000000 people. |
| 01:46:55.92 | Max Shank | It's leverage. |
| 01:47:07.30 | mikebledsoe | With a 2600 page tax code that incentivizes certain types of purchases disincentivizes other types of purchases. Um it ah it does it does really incentivize investing in real estate which is interesting because you can. |
| 01:47:21.92 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:47:35.14 | Max Shank | Well let's also look at this because it's not ah like those politicians are only like fabricating these ideas in their own mind. They're having people come in and say like hey we're this ah business that does one ah 0 every month. |
| 01:48:07.94 | mikebledsoe | These politicians don't write these laws. These laws are being brought to them. |
| 01:48:14.22 | Max Shank | And and and right and like hey Joe blow politician um, you know I was thinking. Ah you know you could you could really help us out. Ah, but you know I don't want you to work too hard. So I I went I went ahead and prepared the law for you. |
| 01:48:49.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, which the law the which the law is like 10000 pages long. There's no way who the fuck reads those things. No one reads that shit. |
| 01:48:52.82 | Max Shank | I went ahead and had my lawyers prepare this law for you and I I left this spot at the it's about 10000 pages I sent a copy to all your colleagues already I put a place here for you to sign your name at the bottom and I think it's a really really good idea for you to do this. |
| 01:49:27.48 | mikebledsoe | And and we'll we'll pay your son like $10000000 a year for advisory. |
| 01:49:32.46 | Max Shank | And because like power. Oh dude that guy is that guy is fucking set but you know Hidden hidden in that fucking quagmire of verbal violence in that fucking law that's been written is. How um competition and free market is prevented right? It's not like going to be awesome for everybody. Ah, it's gone too far but it's just because we have set up the rules of the game. |
| 01:50:24.98 | mikebledsoe | Yep. |
| 01:50:46.98 | Max Shank | To allow for too much of ah human error. Basically. |
| 01:50:49.88 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and so this is where um so we have to believe in the money I'm talking about belief which means you got to trust it right? And so we're at a in my lifetime we're at a record breaking low of trust in. |
| 01:51:10.16 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 01:51:28.32 | mikebledsoe | Government or the record breaking low and trust in media I think that in since the emergence of crypto there has been a trickling of people in droves that don't trust the money that that trust ah 1 of the things that web 3 |
| 01:51:59.64 | Max Shank | A. |
| 01:52:07.38 | mikebledsoe | Really ah has brought about is it requires less trust because you can't fuck with it like it doesn't matter how much somebody wants to change something. It's not humanly possible to change some of these rules and how these crypto. |
| 01:52:46.54 | Max Shank | Question for you is web 3 basically trying to use blockchain technology to store web data and provide server. Ah for websites. |
| 01:52:47.00 | mikebledsoe | Cryptos work. Yeah. |
| 01:53:13.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's that's that's one that's so it's a ledger well blockchain is just a really advanced ledger system that's automatically updated in decentralized web 3 in blockchain everyone in the same. |
| 01:53:23.66 | Max Shank | It's like decentralized web servers. |
| 01:53:35.48 | Max Shank | No, but web 3 I'm asking. Okay, I'm okay. |
| 01:53:51.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, the the way I understand it. It's it's just web 3 is kind of you say blockchain and people get a little confused and go web 3 and they go oh like you know web one was we can send information from computer to computer web two was we have html and everything's visually we have visual graphics and. And we can. There's clickable things and and then social media and then Web 3 is blockchain mother of all demos. |
| 01:54:39.84 | Max Shank | You should see the mother look up the mother of all demos sometime it shows what it's fucking great I think it was in the 60 s we were able to do like ah word documents and video chat and all kinds of shit in like the 60 s. |
| 01:55:14.74 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 01:55:19.48 | Max Shank | Called the mother of all demos um wild what was capable way back then and then that wasn't ubiquitous for people that wasn't common for people until forty years later something like that not nuts. |
| 01:55:41.10 | mikebledsoe | Right? Yeah, there's that's it's fascinating. Um. |
| 01:55:54.74 | Max Shank | So that's the leverage though is how fast we can communicate a message a lot of ah censorship speaking of like the None amendment kind of. |
| 01:56:06.90 | mikebledsoe | Well, there's also you not just how fast can you communicate a message but can it actually get through the noise. How loud how loud is your message and how well received is it because there's there's a there's a level of skill that's involved in being heard. |
| 01:56:21.14 | Max Shank | Yeah, well and. Absolutely no question I mean I think that's why stand-up comedy is one of those places where the rubber meets the road on free speech a little bit because if you're allowed to say anything as long as it's a joke. Then you can still at least get that message into people's minds without having ah it be controlled and that's ultimately what drives a population if if suddenly it was the law like so that's that's what's kind of interesting. You know I don't think it's good to have. Like a lot of power in the hands of a few people. It's back to leverage same thing as a hammer right? It's physical leverage in different ways. Um, but if they suddenly made it like the law to kill None puppy every week like let's just say that became the law people would not do that. |
| 01:58:27.84 | mikebledsoe | Well, it's got to be Ah, it's got to be done in small bits I mean all right? So this may actually happen. Yeah this this may actually happen right? So they So there's the media's put out the yeah, the media has put out some notices that. |
| 01:58:29.80 | Max Shank | Because the collective consciousness of whether that's okay or not. |
| 01:58:44.64 | Max Shank | You're like talking Boiling Boiling Frog right? Yeah yeah, the puppy killing oh shit, you know what you're right? The puppy flew. |
| 01:59:07.84 | mikebledsoe | You know some people are getting getting. Ah yeah, they're getting Well they're getting coronavirus they're It's like oh statistically we find that people who are around dogs more get coronavirus. Whatever. |
| 01:59:17.52 | Max Shank | Copy flu. |
| 01:59:27.40 | Max Shank | Oh God Oh don't don't even put this out. It's so easily could happen. You could get people to kill puppies as long as you said puppies increased the no fucking way. Wow. |
| 01:59:35.98 | mikebledsoe | So so here's the thing there are cities in China where they've gone in and killed all the dogs. Yeah, and so it's already happened and so um, which. |
| 02:00:04.80 | Max Shank | Heavy heavy. |
| 02:00:12.90 | mikebledsoe | When we think about that happening in China we go. Yeah that's totally believable because they're under some weird you know they're they're under some like heavy mind control. But I think that people I think americans give themselves way too much credit on how ah how little. They they think they they're being exposed and are subject to way less propaganda I would say it's less propagandized in the United States like we're not as susceptible because there's so much competing information where there's not as much competition for information there. But the propaganda is real. |
| 02:01:04.92 | Max Shank | Overt. It's just yeah, ah. |
| 02:01:26.32 | mikebledsoe | And so all you gotta do? It's been proven in the last two years all you gotta do is make people think that they're gonna die if they don't do this thing and they'll fucking. Do it. They'll strap 3 masks on they'll put an experimental vaccine in their body and they'll they'll ah make statements like. |
| 02:01:56.76 | Max Shank | Oh god we just got flagged. That's us we're done. He's in Texas go get him I was never here. Ah. |
| 02:02:01.54 | mikebledsoe | We should throw people. We're done off Spotify. Ah I'm in Texas I'm in Texas good luck. So yeah, um. |
| 02:02:34.34 | Max Shank | Oh my gosh. So it's all it really is it all comes down to force right? It all comes down to how much of an impact you can make with words or with stuff it all comes and it's leverage. |
| 02:02:52.90 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, because with the words you can still like if if ah, a small group of people can convince the large group of people that I'm a bad guy. They don't even have to get their hands dirty and so they use mind control to create violence. |
| 02:03:21.18 | Max Shank | Totally, you're separated from it. |
| 02:03:32.34 | mikebledsoe | And that's another thing we've witnessed big time in the last two years is they don't have to fucking create violence. They'll all they got to do is leverage some media to get people really hot and bothered then put. |
| 02:03:50.38 | Max Shank | Nobody wants to get their hands dirty. |
| 02:04:08.20 | mikebledsoe | Certain Spokes holes out there to to tell people how they should think what they should think and next thing you know things are burning. Yeah. |
| 02:04:18.56 | Max Shank | Hurt people hurt people right? hurt people hurt people. Ah and the more removed you are from the impact the easier it is like imagine if ah. Kind of like in game of thrones. The one who passes the sentence or the one who passes the sentence should carry it out like if you're gonna sentence a guide to death. Yeah, that was a stark thing. Yeah, well, it's cause it's like really warm weather and there's. |
| 02:05:02.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I mean that that was ah and ah that was a stark thing as the the northerners believed in that but you know you go to the South a bunch of soft pussies. |
| 02:05:32.40 | Max Shank | Ah titties and asses everywhere on the beach like I I don't blame them I get it like I I wouldn't be too like I wouldn't be too Stern with duty if the beach was like full of naked chicks and coconuts like what are we fighting for. |
| 02:05:34.12 | mikebledsoe | Teddy's everywhere I I. |
| 02:06:07.20 | Max Shank | There's food and titties everywhere. Ah but I think that idea of if you're going to be the one who passes the sentence you should carry it out the corollary or the inverse of that is if you can pass judgment. |
| 02:06:06.20 | mikebledsoe | Ah, ah. |
| 02:06:44.66 | Max Shank | And be totally removed from the action if you can tell a guy to tell another guy to tell another guy to tell another guy to take a drone to this other guy so that guy can drone this fucking stranger to him like he doesn't know who it is. He doesn't Care. You're not going to even feel that. But if imagine if you had to personally choke every person that you wanted to kill that would be a really different type of connection. |
| 02:07:27.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well, it's it's well it's this disconnection from responsibility on both ends, you've got the guy passing the sentence who's disconnected from the reality of what it takes to do that and then the person who's executing can just say. |
| 02:07:45.32 | Max Shank | Totally. |
| 02:08:03.82 | mikebledsoe | You know I'm just following orders but at the end of the day who but eat. |
| 02:08:09.54 | Max Shank | Ah, oh God there's a phrase I fuss just following all us now that's not fair. That's not fair that is not a cool thing to do what I just did because it's not like the germans. |
| 02:08:29.74 | mikebledsoe | A. |
| 02:08:38.36 | Max Shank | Are the only people who have done any horrible shit that is so unfair of me. The only reason that we use them as the poster boy. The only reason we use them as the poster boy is they just happen to target the group who is best at marketing and that's why that story is the most popular. |
| 02:08:48.26 | mikebledsoe | Oh I'll I'll say this. |
| 02:09:12.80 | mikebledsoe | Well now now you're now you're gonna now you're really stepping in it. |
| 02:09:16.64 | Max Shank | Of all the evil stories. Oh what Jews are bad at marketing mike. |
| 02:09:33.10 | mikebledsoe | Um, you're right? Um, yeah, there there's there's there's. |
| 02:09:37.26 | Max Shank | So some of my best friends in the world are Jews they're usually very smart. They're usually financially sound. They're usually pretty good at business I mean I hate to generalize. |
| 02:09:52.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's there's plenty of groups of people. Yeah, there's plenty of groups of people that have been exterminated and and more more mass that we're not nearly as good at marketing you right? Um, and but yeah, that's that's well. |
| 02:10:13.32 | Max Shank | Totally. |
| 02:10:25.92 | mikebledsoe | We have We have police officers and just ah, you know make it fair. We have police officers that are doing no knock warrants but are serving no knock warrants ah busting people for drugs that are not hurting anybody and and it harmed a fucking soul and. |
| 02:10:55.82 | Max Shank | Oh god. |
| 02:11:04.62 | mikebledsoe | There are really egregious things happening I mean your domain your your where you live is a sacred place. It is yeah 1 time out your house. But. |
| 02:11:09.68 | Max Shank | Totally. |
| 02:11:23.50 | Max Shank | I Live in fantasy Land I live in Fanta No No I mean literally like my house and my sense of the world is basically fantasy land because all this horrible Shit. We're talking about I Actually don't have to see most of it but there are slaves. In the world there. There are horrible things. There are that that's wild. How much did it cost I'm just kidding I'm just kidding. |
| 02:12:00.74 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I've seen I've seen I've seen Slavery Firsthand I I was shocked. Yeah oh I I What the slaves. Um. |
| 02:12:35.26 | Max Shank | I assume you would have gotten 1 Okay. |
| 02:12:39.18 | mikebledsoe | Now we we ended up being a rescue. |
| 02:12:51.20 | Max Shank | You mean I just thought of like you know you adopt a dog you like rescue a dog versus you buy 1 at the breeder. That's what I thought you went for some. |
| 02:13:04.00 | mikebledsoe | No, no, no, no, we we were. We were coming up I was in the navy we were coming up on what looked like a ship in distress and it was full of slaves being traded from Somalia to Yemen and so ah so that shit's that shit's. |
| 02:13:26.00 | Max Shank | Good God See That's what I'm talking about that stuff's happening all the time. Yeah, we're divorced from that reality and in some ways that's good because how much shit can you really pay attention to should I Really? okay. |
| 02:13:41.22 | mikebledsoe | Shit's happening all time. It's real. We just we just happen to come across them. Yeah. |
| 02:14:05.86 | Max Shank | Like I'm I'm not nice or bad I'm just whatever I am basically but should I really concern myself with with what's going on in like the Ivory coast right now or something like that when I could have like I mean. |
| 02:14:28.22 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 02:14:40.66 | Max Shank | I got None of room to improve my own life. The last thing I need to do is put my attention somewhere where I can't have any impact at all. That's true for so many of us. |
| 02:14:41.76 | mikebledsoe | Well. |
| 02:14:56.62 | mikebledsoe | But I agree with the the problem is is we people care so much about something that's happened in Ukraine but don't care about what's happening in other countries that well I would say in other countries and so what people aren't realizing is like look if you want to have like. |
| 02:15:17.60 | Max Shank | Um, in their own life in their own life. Oh yeah. |
| 02:15:36.94 | mikebledsoe | I've taken this on I like look I I do believe I I want to be exposed I want to be exposed to the reality of death I want to be exposed to the reality of the most atrocious things that are happening I want to know that those things are happening and so because I I think it's good I think it's good to. To be aware that these things are happening where people get in trouble is they aren't able to look at everything equally they're not able to look out and go oh there's these atrocities over here and there's atrocities over here. They're looking at the atrocities in Ukraine. They're not looking at the atrocities in and. |
| 02:16:15.54 | Max Shank | A. |
| 02:16:50.38 | mikebledsoe | In some places in Africa or the Middle East where we're bombing the shit out of people and and so if you're only focused on 1 atrocity and you're not willing to look at another. |
| 02:16:54.80 | Max Shank | Um, yes, totally. |
| 02:17:18.15 | mikebledsoe | You're not actually having an expanded view of reality you're being controlled by the media. |
| 02:17:22.83 | Max Shank | And you can't prioritize and you can't prioritize. It comes back to matter because if you think like whatever they say matters today matters most to you then you're just going to be spinning your wheels forever. You're like. Oh my god I'm just feeling so banged up about this thing. Oh this new thing I'm sad about and trannie's this and can we play sports and are you black like all this kind of stuff. It's like who gives a fuck like this is this this is the mind of a schizophrenic person. But if you're not connected. |
| 02:18:17.76 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, we have global schizophrenia. |
| 02:18:28.58 | Max Shank | Yeah, but how could you evaluate with how could you evaluate what matters most to you in any given moment if you're being fed this idea and buying it hook line and sinker that this new thing you just heard of suddenly matters the most and when you realize how many things you could care about you. I think you'll eventually come back to what can I do right now within my own life and then as far as like policy is concerned. There's only 2 things that matter and that's Authority who's in charge and jurisdiction when are they in charge. |
| 02:19:40.72 | mikebledsoe | Neither one of those things seem to be matter to me neither one of those things seem to be matter to me. |
| 02:19:42.25 | Max Shank | And that's it. What's that. But for policy that that's the only thing that does matter that's correct that is correct. That's correct hey look. |
| 02:19:56.72 | mikebledsoe | But it's not matter. It's just words. |
| 02:20:20.38 | Max Shank | Words can matter and words matter to you and they do matter to me but you can choose. |
| 02:20:30.86 | mikebledsoe | But they don't matter as much as matter I just want to get that point across. Yeah, they're just 1 step from matter I mean words are just metaphor for matter. So. |
| 02:20:39.24 | Max Shank | Certainly not how could they so anyway back Okay, fuck it I I go the other way I say words matter a lot I say words will fucking transform words are the pattern. |
| 02:21:03.14 | mikebledsoe | I. |
| 02:21:18.94 | Max Shank | That is going to change your matter. Okay, so when you when you well look. Let's take black lives matter for a example and I got something to say about this there. It is I said everything I can say. |
| 02:21:19.18 | mikebledsoe | I Agree it's great at manipulating matter. |
| 02:21:36.26 | mikebledsoe | Oh that's good 1 |
| 02:21:57.20 | Max Shank | Ah, no, no, but like all kidding aside this is this is like a ah weird racist idea like the only thing we should all want is for everybody to be treated Well man woman gay straight black white. Not purple people fuck those people but any anyone like normal colored we should treat the same so it it kind of like look I don't want to shit on anyone's cupcake either? Okay, but do we have like a national women's women's day or something like that. We we have these weird celebrations We have. |
| 02:22:46.94 | mikebledsoe | Um, I think you do. |
| 02:23:04.90 | Max Shank | Pride month and that's ah, that's a weird one like I I think being gay is really awesome. |
| 02:23:12.98 | mikebledsoe | Elon Elon Musk made a really good ah a controversial tweet. Basically he's pointing out how all these companies just all the sudden are are fucking leveraging and this this idea they don't give him a fuck. |
| 02:23:31.40 | Max Shank | Um, Oh yeah, well your I your identity is getting hijacked and ah worst off I mean look I think from my own direct Experience. Nothing has fucked me up as bad as my own pride. So. So so so it's like basically like volunteering to ruin someone's life for a whole month. It's like hey you know that deadly sin that we're all desperately trying to avoid. We think? ah. You would enjoy a whole month straight of it. No homosexuality is awesome. It looks really fun. In fact, I've never seen anyone who looked like they were having a better time than a couple of gay guys at a gay party right? Ah, that's that's. |
| 02:24:51.30 | mikebledsoe | He's talking about pride folks not homosexuality. |
| 02:25:13.28 | mikebledsoe | I agree I I'm I'm jealous I'm jealous. |
| 02:25:24.40 | Max Shank | Fully and that's fully uninhibited and I think ah you know the old school gays and trannies. They would not want to control language about what's going on like I I like the the like old school trannies. From like the 70 s and eighty s who were like really buff black dudes and who were like god damn I look fine and address and but but that's the old school type what I'm saying is these these bitches were wise you know and they were tough and if someone. |
| 02:26:07.82 | mikebledsoe | They're still around I've been I've been to the club. Yeah. |
| 02:26:32.12 | Max Shank | Was like you're not a real woman. They would be like suck my dick and then they would be like you know, brassy and tough and they would risk their lives to go dance in like ah a tranny Speakeay and I I respect that but this whole like you gotta. You got to call me this or you got to call me that or I'm going to call dad and they're going to hit you with a stick. It's like that sucks we need. We need these old school trannies to talk some sense into them about free speech because there's no reason that that should be but there's no reason that there. |
| 02:27:31.94 | mikebledsoe | Now now we're getting kicked off Spotify. Ah. |
| 02:27:47.34 | Max Shank | Okay, like those people also look fun like I think that's great, but this whole idea that we should treat any person different because of how they want to like mutilate their body or enhance it like I mean fake fake boobs Totally fine cut your dick off not fine I think they're both fine. |
| 02:28:10.22 | mikebledsoe | Well well. |
| 02:28:22.56 | mikebledsoe | I I think. |
| 02:28:26.82 | Max Shank | Personally, but I think any time you want to control the language of other people you have a mental disorder. Basically. |
| 02:28:39.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and and you're it is someone trying to force other people to participate in their identity and that is that's insane like was it a. |
| 02:28:59.20 | Max Shank | Right? That's like forcing someone to come to your party hey hey I'm throwing a party Friday I don't want to go. You're coming. |
| 02:29:18.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, you're racist if you don't come and I'm gonna call your boss and they're gonna fire you. |
| 02:29:32.68 | Max Shank | Ah, ah oh God pride go before a fall pride Pride's pride is not something that you really want to like emphasize in your life I think being open being able to express yourself. |
| 02:29:36.64 | mikebledsoe | It's like no I was well from time for myself. |
| 02:29:46.88 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 02:30:10.18 | Max Shank | Very good. It's just you know these words do influence our matter quite a lot. So this idea. Ah this idea that we yeah okay ah I don't know like I'm I'm so skeptical about joining groups. Anyway. |
| 02:30:18.34 | mikebledsoe | Bring here, bring it back up mic up. It keeps falling. |
| 02:30:46.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 02:30:48.82 | Max Shank | As you know, but like you lose you lose so much of ah that groundedness and reality when you're like I'm on team ah Republican or I'm on Team Trans or I'm on team Black I mean I think if I could be on team black that would be pretty cool though. In in my life. Black people were much cooler better at dancing I feel like I would get a lot of street cred if I was on team black actually as as a white guy but I don't think people should be ah I don't know forced to whatever other people's ah. |
| 02:31:39.64 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 02:31:59.42 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah I mean I think we you and I both just believe people should leave each other alone and some people are just nosy and and controlling. Yeah. |
| 02:32:04.18 | Max Shank | Lives. |
| 02:32:16.30 | Max Shank | Um, what a novel concept what a novel concept. So what are we trying to do here mike has this been our None secret episode is that what ah has gone on here. |
| 02:32:35.00 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, so this is ah you just got a taste of what happens during most pre-shows. Ah, although we went a little. |
| 02:32:59.70 | Max Shank | Max and Mike Raw |
| 02:33:03.86 | mikebledsoe | Um, that's definitely a porno. Um well. |
| 02:33:15.44 | Max Shank | Ah, at least we already have 1 filmed hey oh. |
| 02:33:25.62 | mikebledsoe | Ah, so um, say yeah, we're playing around with the idea. Maybe we'll do ah we tend to talk about 20 minutes we tend to talk about for about 20 minutes before we do shows and yeah ill I'll gonna talk to my tech team and see what. |
| 02:33:41.88 | Max Shank | We'll do a little pre-show. |
| 02:34:03.62 | mikebledsoe | And marketing teams see what they think cause I can't do anything would like some feedback from their audience. What I'm thinking right? now is maybe a pay what you want ah membership to get yeah, come get in the club hear The pre-show get some of the raw conversations that ah. |
| 02:34:09.62 | Max Shank | Let's get some feedback from the audience though too Huh I Want to. I Like it to join the club. |
| 02:34:38.52 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 02:34:40.46 | mikebledsoe | Come about and also witness the how we come up with the idea of what we're gonna do for the show that day So there's there's a lot. There's so many things that we discussed before the show starts that I wish was recorded that doesn't necessarily fall in line with the rest of the show but is still extremely valuable. |
| 02:34:50.20 | Max Shank | Um, I mean we could even do like a. Yeah, yeah, it'd be cool to give people a chance to participate too like maybe they could ah it depends like we could. Ah. Plug them into the call we could do like a live tweeting thing for them or like a little. Oh. No I mean we can just like um, get them involved. Ah. |
| 02:35:36.12 | mikebledsoe | I Don't think we can live stream out of our current system. |
| 02:35:57.38 | mikebledsoe | How would you like to be involved. That's it showing the name. Maybe we could do it. We could do it like a telegram group. We could do I don't fucking know and I say I'm gonna talk to my tech my tech and marketing team are good to talk to because I could tell them what we and then they. |
| 02:36:06.68 | Max Shank | Yeah, how would you like to be involved That's ah that's a good question like what would you like us to cover. Yeah I like these ah more human interactions. |
| 02:36:36.32 | mikebledsoe | Um, like hey there's what we're thinking about doing and they'll come back and say oh you should you could set it up like this this and this these guys look I'm 40 these guys are in their 30 s early 30 s they. |
| 02:36:40.28 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 02:36:51.24 | Max Shank | Age card look at that folks. He's trying to get clout by look how old I am look how fucking old I am what a thing to brag about you son of a bitch. |
| 02:37:07.26 | mikebledsoe | Oh humble brag Humble brack. No, but the the ah the all these guy I now I don't know that's that's not what I'm saying at all is I don't keep up with the shit that's popular right now I don't know what technology is out there. |
| 02:37:24.30 | Max Shank | I'm so old that I got smarter than you. |
| 02:37:35.80 | Max Shank | Um, that's. |
| 02:37:45.48 | mikebledsoe | Um, like I want to do this and then they tell me a dozen ways to do it some of which I are like Wow you can do that now. So that's why it's help talk to them now. |
| 02:37:58.34 | Max Shank | Yeah, let's talk about widgets next time, Let's talk about our favorite ah tech stuff. |
| 02:38:11.60 | mikebledsoe | We never. We never talk about the thing in the next show that we think we might talk about in the previous show I think so all right? we end it there give us your feedback if you want to reach me directly just hit me up on Instagram Mike Underscore Bloodso and now. |
| 02:38:23.12 | Max Shank | I Think we're going to talk about things on the next show it' going to happen. |
| 02:38:50.70 | mikebledsoe | And then you want them to do any hoops you want people to jump through max. |
| 02:38:56.42 | Max Shank | Ah, well thanks for tuning in my name is max shank. You can find me at http://maxshank.com and I hope you have a lovely rest of your day. |
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| 00:00.00 | Max Shank | Welcome back everybody to Monday and mornings with max and Mike Today we were chatting before we hit record and Mike wisely suggested we hit record before we talk for an hour. We're talking about tools. We were talking about skills. Had an interesting experience where I was building a box but it wasn't any kind of box. It was actually a strongman pinata for a friend of mine and so I hung up this box in a tree. And had a sledgehammer that he had to go find as part of this scavenger hunt and when a box a wood box is not wedged against the ground if it's just hanging. |
| 00:42.54 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 01:52.60 | Max Shank | You can hit that thing pretty much as hard as you want if it's wellmade with a sledgehammer and it's really hard because the forest dissipates throughout anyway, it was a fun ah thing for my friend's birthday shout out Anders. You're the man did a great scavenger hunt. But it made me realize how little I know about the principles of woodworking construction in general and it also made me start thinking about the tools required to do certain jobs and I was talking Mike I was talking with you just a second ago. About how I breezed right past using the simple tools. Well and I just in None fell swoop I bought a friend's full set of tools when I didn't know anything I had basically just purchased a home. And I had a drill from before but I didn't really have any any tools so I bought this whole ah batch of tools and half of them I didn't even know what they were a quarter of them I knew what they were but I didn't know when to use them and the other quarter. Actually have learned how to use and it makes me wish that I had gone back and just started with a drill and a hammer and a saw or a chisel or something like that and I think um, the same thing is true for all types of education. |
| 04:01.32 | mikebledsoe | Oh. |
| 05:06.28 | Max Shank | I Think we fly right through so quick to ah, some end result before really understanding the principles involved. Ah I found myself having to use a little math for these projects which was very exciting but what I realized is so. Ah, cool is when you build something the the math is important but all of the geometry and stuff is very incomplete because I remember in math Class. You usually don't account for the thickness of a material so there are all these. Minor adjustments that you have to make so I think ah yeah I would ah I am doing it now I'm going back in time and relearning the the simple principles of using a saw and a drill and fastening. Pieces of wood together and cutting different types of angles and slots and it's It's been.. It's been really fun. |
| 06:36.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, that that journey really resonates with me you were you were talking about the tools and ah everything that was happening over the weekend and and how you all this shit. You don't need and I had a very similar experience. Yeah I grew up I grew up in Construction. My dad had his own construction company and um, you know I witnessed him use a lot of tools that I didn't use that I never use because they were advanced So like I'd seen them and then I got a toolbox when I was a kid. I was like in my mid teens and that's that was my Christmas gift the most disappointing Christmas gift I ever received was a tool empty Toolbox I could put tools in it I would greatly appreciate that now at some it. He's like it's like like man. |
| 08:56.90 | Max Shank | Sounds like the best gift ever now. |
| 08:27.40 | mikebledsoe | My dad was just a little ahead of himself. Um, you know I think he was He did a good job of instilling the things that are important even if it wasn't the thing that was gonna make me the happiest in the moment. Ah, and yeah, what a good guide that guy was. |
| 09:30.76 | Max Shank | Um, right I think that's called parenting. |
| 09:06.60 | mikebledsoe | Ah, so um, but yeah I I spent years accumulating and losing tools and I moved around a lot so I didn't stay in one spot so something that did recently and you talked he said something you know about. |
| 10:07.00 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 09:42.50 | mikebledsoe | Being able to go back in time or go back and do it over again is I I basically did that because I got I got rid of all my personal belongings in 2018 and got down to 2 bags and traveled nomatically and ah there was like None little box of tools that were. That were like they're they're good for vehicles like they're everything you would need in a vehicle to is something were to go wrong. You know, just ah, a socket set and and a few wrenches. Nothing. |
| 11:10.40 | Max Shank | E. |
| 11:21.20 | Max Shank | Would you know what to do I I would not know what to do ah with the perfect speaking of skills if you gave me the perfect car tool set and a car that wasn't working forget it I would have no idea how to apply that tool set. |
| 11:09.44 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well I was fortunate because my dad in his all of his foresight. He made sure I had classic cars growing up and so he made me pay for them but he really encouraged me to get classic cars because they are. |
| 12:11.74 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 11:47.54 | mikebledsoe | Much easier to work on you know? Yeah, so if you anything before 1973 or 4 Yeah, everything is a hundred percent mechanical so right yeah the the electronics go as far as like the radio. |
| 12:34.48 | Max Shank | They're simpler machines. |
| 12:49.78 | Max Shank | No No electronics. The dash or something. Yeah. |
| 12:26.62 | mikebledsoe | The yeah the dash but like you don't you don't have fuel injection. There's nothing happening in the engine that's run electronically. There's no chips. |
| 13:25.20 | Max Shank | There's no power being adjusted to individual wheels during a turn via some computer making 60000 ah calculations per millisecond and you're like oh I'll just fix the computer. |
| 12:47.80 | mikebledsoe | Right? right. |
| 13:09.92 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, so there's um, ah I think it was 1974 it was due to the oil crisis at the time which there's a lot of similarities between the 1970 s and the 2020 s in regard to if you look at. |
| 14:20.20 | Max Shank | Me. |
| 13:44.62 | mikebledsoe | What's happening geopolitically and economically, there's exactly yeah yeah, a little bit of pushback is what we're starting to witness with that as well. Um, yeah, there's a lot of similarities. Ah but 1 of the things that happened was in 1973 or 4 |
| 14:34.34 | Max Shank | Psychedelic Resurgence currently too pretty cool. |
| 14:24.36 | mikebledsoe | They basically made they they wanted fuel. They wanted vehicles to become much more fuel efficient because the cost of oil was going up because of some opec shit that was going on so that's where fuel injectors came in now before that was mechanically driven fuel injection through Carburetors. So The the cool thing is is. My dad I don't know if he did this on purpose or not but with ah with a older vehicle. It is Simpler So It's easier to learn how to work on the other thing is is I'm confident now because I I rebuilt everything on cars I'm confident that if you gave me a carburet like a car that had a carburetor I could figure it out. |
| 16:24.78 | Max Shank | Qua. |
| 15:43.32 | mikebledsoe | And so um I'm not saying I would like figure it out like Macgyver in 10 seconds but I could I would eventually figure it out. It's been a long time but you start throwing all these electronics in and yeah, now you have to plug a computer into it just to know what's going on. So um. |
| 16:34.68 | Max Shank | Down. |
| 16:22.70 | mikebledsoe | So I know the basics. |
| 17:04.66 | Max Shank | It's a bit of an ego. It's a bit of an ego check too to go back and relearn the simple mechanics of things right? How how exact like how fluid passes through. Ah. |
| 16:36.20 | mikebledsoe | Things you think you should have learned or I should know by it as a man I should know this shit. |
| 17:37.88 | Max Shank | Pipe and what happens when it meets a junction and the pressure involved right? and the action of different things and just a really basic valve a very basic pump learning how these things work because I I realized I I mean I'm still not. Ah, educated in it. But you realize just what a tremendous amount of the world Around. You is only functioning because all of these parts are working exactly as they should and as soon as they would stop. You. At least I would at the time have no clue what's wrong or even how to ah track. Ah what might be wrong is wild. |
| 18:28.24 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I I find myself I want to get back to the tools but I like this track we're on because it makes me think about None thing I notice out in the world is um and again I think a lot of this has to do with. Ah. What a good job. My dad did raising me is I understand I didn't know that I understood how things worked better than most people and what I witness in the world now is people I watched them doing something I'm like don't do it like that you're going to fuck that thing up. |
| 20:21.78 | Max Shank | And it seems obvious to you it. It seems like I knew this when I was 8 But that's how I would be if I went to a farm the 10 year old kid would watch me doing something be like what are you? an idiot. That's not how you dig a trench like that's not how you drive a post. |
| 19:40.66 | mikebledsoe | And then it's gonna be broken or it's not gonna It's so obvious I'm like why would they do that. |
| 19:56.78 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well. |
| 20:13.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, but but when it comes down to and I look at something not not only was I taught how it's not just that I was taught how to do it. My dad did a good job in teaching me like end to end how it worked and why it worked like he was very big on the principles of like. |
| 20:59.28 | Max Shank | Dumb ass. |
| 20:50.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, when you do this at least this this is the end result we're looking for and so I think a lot of times people are so focused on the end result that they don't They don't take the time to understand the process of how it gets there and they don't appreciate it either. So There's like ah, a really great appreciation that I have for. Ah technology because I understand enough about the ins and outs of how this thing works that um that it's I appreciate more and I can fix it quickly if I needed if needed. Um, so something I got into young as well as I got into computers I got into building computers. |
| 22:30.32 | Max Shank | Oh my God yeah. |
| 22:04.60 | mikebledsoe | And I got into running networks and yeah I can see. |
| 22:49.22 | Max Shank | You can follow the flow of energy. Basically you understand the flow of energy which is about relationships like the thing that blows my mind is there's no such thing as a thing which sounds Silly. So I'm gonna say it Again. There's no such thing as a thing because it's. Only describable in relation to other things. So if you have all of these end results and you have no idea how to track the energy flow of what's going On. It's like you're just in an ocean of darkness where you have no Clue. You're just kind of being ah, bounced around. |
| 23:22.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's I've had us. Ah, my most recent experience of this is um, for 14 years of entrepreneurship I never did my books I always had a bookkeeper I I outsourced it heavily and one of the reasons. |
| 24:06.12 | Max Shank | By these forces. |
| 24:35.52 | Max Shank | Me too still. Do. |
| 23:59.26 | mikebledsoe | None of the reasons. Yeah what what? I stopped doing that recently one of the reasons I outsourced it heavily is because my none business partner ever what he had a ah master's in finance so he didn't even. He didn't even share I didn't even bother to look and he didn't share the profit loss the balance sheet like I really had no idea he would just tell me a thing. It was basically a thumbs up or thumbs down system and I was flying in the dark and um. |
| 25:20.12 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 25:34.32 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 25:47.36 | Max Shank | Um, which has its advantages I think has its advantages. Yeah. |
| 25:08.74 | mikebledsoe | At the end of the there were oh it. It allowed me to move really fast. So because of that business partner I was able to run barbell shrug with I didn't understand how I didn't understand the all the reporting but we were making millions of dollars a year. So. |
| 26:23.36 | Max Shank | The. |
| 25:46.70 | mikebledsoe | You know there there was a benefit now. The drawback was was when I no longer had that person and I found another I found another Cfo who also did an amazing job. But what I understood was when when that existing system ceased to be. |
| 26:40.28 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 27:07.98 | Max Shank | Her. |
| 26:25.62 | mikebledsoe | And I didn't have all the same people. It required me to understand learn things and I felt like and and this was accurate I had to go back and learn some really fundamental things about bookkeeping about accounting about ah cash flow cause really it comes down to cash flow and Cash Flow. Management and so I mean if you look at Accounting. It's I mean it's a big scam because the whole point of accounting is so you know how much to pay in taxes at the end of the day. But if you that's what that's what modern day accounting is yeah the majority of. |
| 28:06.26 | Max Shank | True True true. Yeah. |
| 27:40.34 | mikebledsoe | You know I wouldn't have to spend thousands of dollars a year on accounting if cut. Yeah, exactly yeah go. Um. |
| 28:26.16 | Max Shank | Is it counting kind of like cutting your switch for the Taxman You know you? you know if you're in trouble you have to like in your parents a real thug. They're like go cut a tree branch so I can beat you with it and that's what accounting is like. |
| 28:11.22 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, go go pick out. Go pick out your switch. Yeah, ah so ah, so the way I look at it now is look I gotta count I handle the tax ship but my job is cash flow management and the way I see it. |
| 29:14.22 | Max Shank | That's the. |
| 29:30.28 | Max Shank | Which is energy management right? which comes back to relationships you got to be able to track the energy flow and the relationship from 1 point to the next just the same way you got to be able to track the gasoline from the fuel tank. |
| 28:51.16 | mikebledsoe | Is if energy management and if I. |
| 29:11.92 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 30:09.76 | Max Shank | All the way to the exhaust can you track that gasoline all the way through you're probably going to have a decent idea of how this system is working together and actually cash is really good symbol for fuel or vice versa actually like fuel and cash. |
| 29:59.16 | mikebledsoe | I Think it's a great. Ah. |
| 30:49.80 | Max Shank | And a motor is like ah you you could also think of it like a cell instead of something man-made. But actually you know an organization can be looked at as a motor or as a cell or a creature or as an ecosystem I Think the motor analogy is a little bit more. Ah, tool-based and cold and the cell analogy or like a tree or something like that. But you're still tracking the flow of energy just the same Way. You could track the flow of gasoline through a car you could track the flow of Photon Photosynthesis. Ah, through a tree and you can understand the water and how the carbon dioxide from the air is converted into sugar through this process like you can understand the energy flow and transformation and cash flow is kind of the same thing you're understanding. How energy is transformed through that organism or organization which is your business. |
| 32:10.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and and um, you're spot on I mean I like the the classic car mechanical analogy because it is so much simpler and so that's a great place to start if you start with the complexity of a cell. You know, now there's ah it exactly? Yeah, not. That's that's advanced I mean I think that is a great analogy but in the beginning if you don't understand the cash flow which is. |
| 33:38.98 | Max Shank | Our sales team is the Mitochondria and it's like wait wait. What? no. |
| 33:29.11 | mikebledsoe | Can you look at your profit loss. Can you look at your bash your balance sheet and your cash flow reporting like if you can't look at those and those tell you a story that make that they go Oh I know now how to make it doesn't It won't inform you on how to make all the decisions in your business. It's not gonna. |
| 34:44.80 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 34:06.34 | mikebledsoe | Gonna tell you who to hire. But it's gonna tell you what position to hire for right? And so um and people at the highest levels are making most of the decisions based on the numbers the higher up you get in your in your thinking and your business is that now here's the thing about I've learned about money. Is that I am um I'm in charge of the cash flow of my own cash flow management and the better I can manage what I currently have the more I'll be able to manage in the future If You think that. Adding more Cash. Ah I think most people walk around and I used to I used to walk around thinking like this if I just had more money then I'd be able to save and invest and I'd be I'd be a better steward of the money I had if there were more pete. That's what people. |
| 36:36.54 | Max Shank | If only. |
| 36:00.58 | mikebledsoe | That's what people believe but the truth is is if you become what is. |
| 36:49.96 | Max Shank | It's a very protective phrase it if only I had something then I could do this other thing If only if only I Yeah, it's it's perfect. Yes, very protective. Yeah no I'm I'm good. |
| 36:19.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it's conditional and it's outside of yourself. You're not responsible for it. Yeah yeah. |
| 37:23.48 | Max Shank | I'm not I'm barely even related to this this dream here I have nothing to do with it. So it's related to something else. My my dream. My dream is related to the breeze. |
| 36:51.40 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yes, so this false belief is what keeps people in this this cycle of defeat in regard to to money is because. They don't understand how it flows because they're afraid to look at it. There's an emotional response to being present with the money. Step None is check your bank account every day now that doesn't tell you the whole story It's just a snapshot in time. But if you start doing that and then you learn about bookkeeping and you learn about. Ah. And you learn about cash flow management. You start getting to a more advanced conversation about cash flow. It is it can be in my experience. It's been incredibly painful in the short term. It's it's it can be frustrating. It takes way more time than I think it should take I sit down. |
| 39:15.80 | Max Shank | Like organizing the garage for me. But but once you get the the nuts and bolts in the same place and once you get the drill and the saw and the sandpaper and the grinders and the chisels all in their own like place. |
| 38:39.92 | mikebledsoe | Like organizing the garage. |
| 39:52.28 | Max Shank | Then you look at this organized grid and like I was telling you before we started this show. It's ah it's never been something ah that I have had as a work environment I have just thrived in chaos as soon as something urgent comes up I go into a. Hurricane of activity and I relentlessly pursue this thing ignoring everything else. But as you know I'm 34 now I'm appreciating more and more the clarity of having a clean. Space and a tightly organized Ah Toolbox ah tool shed garage workshop all that stuff and I think that understanding ah like we say you know as within so without same thing with the organization of. Your tools which are basically ah levers to amplify your energy or refocus your energy conversion same thing with the business. It's do you have everything tightly organized so you can really see what you need to see so you can know. When it's right to use which tool available to you? Um I Like to think of that energy flow also from a ah customer flow Standpoint. There's always this flow of customers who um. |
| 41:45.88 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 42:59.46 | Max Shank | You know you just capture their attention and that's the top layer of that funnel and the reason the funnel analogy works so well is because it has like gravity involved into it and there's this effortlessness where things just flow down into the funnel and it's this ah mathematical. |
| 42:17.84 | mikebledsoe | O. |
| 43:37.64 | Max Shank | Reduction to a focal point that um, it really describes um a nat a pretty natural probability curve too. But if you ah understand like how many people. You're capturing their attention. How many people you're keeping their attention because that's a form of energy your your attention is like I'm going to be bold here. Your attention is like Quantum energy because there is no math that can describe I mean maybe there is. There's no math that can really describe the potential power and force that can be driven ah through a person's Attention. So I think understanding how the flow of the attention of your customers and also eventually the cash of your customers is really important. For deciding which tools to use next. Do you hire a different marketing department. Do you need someone to work on ads. Do you need someone to ah improve the actual product itself because you get None of people who see it but then everyone hates it I mean it's so much easier to see. What to do next and I think uncertainty is really useful and of course the natural quality of life is uncertainty. We like to kid ourselves like we know what's going to happen next month. |
| 45:53.14 | mikebledsoe | The ah anything that's certain is ah is illusory. Yeah, the trick we plan ourselves to make ourselves feel safe so that we can actually get shit done If yeah. |
| 46:44.66 | Max Shank | Right? But but the more but but it does feel. Yeah and it does feel safer when we know more stuff like the illusion is useful. You know if we didn't have that illusion. We could not have this weekly appointment that I have found very. |
| 46:34.58 | mikebledsoe | Absolutely not? yeah. |
| 47:22.82 | Max Shank | That I have found very enriching We have to both believe the lie of next fucking monday. |
| 46:50.86 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well the live that there's days of the week for one wait. Not yeah, but um, but it's it's a useful to useful belief to use it very confident. |
| 47:43.96 | Max Shank | Right? And that there will be a next one I feel pretty confident that we will talk again next week but what's that confidence based on. It's not based on certainty. What's that. |
| 47:30.24 | mikebledsoe | Um, I mean I be ah well look I the way another something I find very useful is attention is the most important thing because I love what Tony Robbins says which is where your attention goes energy flows and. |
| 48:21.52 | Max Shank | Voodoo. |
| 48:46.94 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 48:09.52 | mikebledsoe | Incredibly accurate. Here's the thing your energy is flowing all the time. No matter what it is moving and flowing and your attention is dictating where it goes and so a lot of times the the hardest thing for someone to do the the highest amount of effort. To get something going is to make the choice to do it to change the inertia of the moment. Oh I'm lying in bed right now. But I I want to go for a walk I Want to go work out the hardest part of starting to work out is actually putting on. Your gym clothes and walking into the gym and doing the None movement. That's the hardest part after that working out's enjoyable sometimes going to bed is hard to do. But once you get in bed. You're glad you're there. It's because we are. |
| 50:31.96 | Max Shank | And then. |
| 49:57.28 | mikebledsoe | Constantly choosing where our tension is at the energy is moving. So I think that I didn't get. |
| 50:47.74 | Max Shank | Or or we're just scratching an itch like the the itch becomes enough that we get up and scratch it and that's that's really all it is is you're waiting for a painful enough catalyst and and and then you could argue that nothing is difficult. |
| 50:25.94 | mikebledsoe | It's painful enough enough pain. |
| 51:25.44 | Max Shank | It's just that you have this sensation of things you do want to do this sensation of things You don't want to do and if you don't want to do it. The pain has to be very significant and if you already want to do it. The pain could be almost nothing. |
| 51:13.68 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and you know we're surrounded by people who try to warn us about the the incoming pain they say you know if you keep doing things this way then the pain. The pain is gonna get really big but you don't you don't believe it. You don't believe it and then. |
| 52:18.22 | Max Shank | Oh my oh my god I hate that I hate that um it make okay Jesus oh god. |
| 51:52.80 | mikebledsoe | And then one day they're fucking right? They you're like oh the pain is really outrageous now Oh had I only listened and made a different choice a little bit sooner I'd experience less pain right now. It's a good teacher. |
| 52:58.34 | Max Shank | Regrets. But how do you? How do you? determine fact from fiction like like rightfully so rightfully so an orthopedic surgeon could say don't do jujitsu. The risk is not worth it. |
| 52:28.76 | mikebledsoe | What what you got it. We got it. |
| 52:45.24 | mikebledsoe | Totally totally. |
| 53:31.58 | Max Shank | You're going to hurt yourself and you could a ah like hurt yourself badly and be like oh I should've listened to that guy or or you might not, you might have you know 40 years of fun and family and camaraderie not hurt yourself. Or see a combination of both. You could have this community and family and quality that you love and totally fuck yourself up and go you know what? I think that was still worth it. I mean look people still do Crossfit Pretty aggressively beyond their capacity and frankly. |
| 53:43.56 | mikebledsoe | You still have. |
| 54:43.74 | Max Shank | Whatever Kinks you're into exercise-wise powerlifting Olympic lifting I'm a bit of a tennis nut at the moment. It doesn't matter your flavor. Um, but as long as you're willing to pay the price who am I to say that you shouldn't pay that price because if you're getting a lot more out of something. |
| 54:38.64 | mikebledsoe | Um, ah. |
| 55:22.52 | Max Shank | Community Family activity. Even if you're ah, harming yourself to some extent Maybe as long as you think it's worth the price. You know who am I to say. |
| 54:56.58 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well deciding who you're going to listen to who gives you the advice right? like like like an like an orthopedic surgeon telling you not to do jijitsu First you have to consider they're coming at you from an orthopedic surgeon perspective. |
| 55:51.84 | Max Shank | So tough. |
| 55:34.70 | mikebledsoe | Who probably doesn't do jujitsu and they're looking at you and going look I can I can tell you that this can be a ah poor choice in the ah in the realm of ah your bone and joint health you know and you go Okay, but what about all the other benefits. |
| 56:45.58 | Max Shank | Oh. Right? And you can't calculate. It. It's unknowable. That's why decision making is so tough. |
| 56:14.52 | mikebledsoe | You know that might come along with it and so so so so there's 2 ways that you can learn None is you can just wait for things to be so painful that you figure it out and you learn that way and or you could listen to other people now. We have and ah some people are yeah well you can also but here's the thing is it's not just you don't want to just listen to anybody right? you guys? What would you have is. |
| 57:37.38 | Max Shank | So through Belief or experience. |
| 57:54.40 | Max Shank | Ah, no, no, no, no, but but you can learn those two ways you can believe someone or you can experience it firsthand. |
| 57:24.56 | mikebledsoe | Totally totally and so you got to be careful about who you believe and you you got to go with their track record right? And so this is one of the things that I notice is that this is one of the this where wisdom is missing So wisdom can be passed down. |
| 58:16.56 | Max Shank | Yeah, no shit. |
| 58:03.80 | mikebledsoe | Or it can be developed by yourself and the problem is is that people are listening to people who have very poor track records and it's very fucking true and so a lot of times. Ah. |
| 58:49.52 | Max Shank | The. |
| 59:07.82 | Max Shank | Ah, yeah. |
| 58:38.96 | mikebledsoe | For instance, someone might listen to you know I won't get into anything that's too controversial. But yeah, the last couple years there was a lot of people giving advice from a place of authority that was that were obvious that they were not in alignment. |
| 59:26.48 | Max Shank | It's got to be a fable for that or something. |
| 59:45.36 | Max Shank | Bold claims. |
| 59:17.34 | mikebledsoe | Personally with the advice they were giving ah it was obvious that these were policies that were being passed down from a political perspective not due to science or or true ah medicine right? so. |
| 01:00:24.38 | Max Shank | Um, you mean Hypocrisy hypocrisy. |
| 59:54.90 | mikebledsoe | So but then I I look at a guy like Paul check and I go and ah, most people look at what Paul check says if they listen what he says a go that guy's fucking crazy I don't know how you could listen to that guy and I go. Ah. |
| 01:01:06.42 | Max Shank | Um, is that what most people say Ah, ah. |
| 01:00:32.62 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, if you introduce him to a mainstream person I'm talking about the mainstream people they they listen to them. They're like they're like man they may not say he's they may not say he's wrong, but they feel like he's extreme right? and and he is to you know he he's hes all in on the lifestyle. |
| 01:01:47.12 | Max Shank | He's he's beyond its extreme. It's incredible to see Actually you know the library and the the rocks and the the water charging and electric she and he is like this is what I'm doing I'm going to do this all day every day. |
| 01:01:31.74 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well he he's the. |
| 01:02:22.60 | Max Shank | And this is what I got and very unapologetic I think he's ah, a really, He's a really cool cat. You know he's He's all in on that thing. |
| 01:01:50.98 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and I'm not I'd say I'm on board with him for 98% of it and you know just every once when I'm like and not really for me. Not gonna fault him for. But yeah, like like who am I but um, but that's the guy listened to. |
| 01:02:52.84 | Max Shank | Um, yeah, he's a wizard. Right. |
| 01:02:30.48 | mikebledsoe | Like if I want health advice I listen to him I listen to Alex Rachinski he's one of ah Paul Chick's top guys. |
| 01:03:17.90 | Max Shank | So you got to be careful who you trust because you can make a ton of benefit trusting the right person like I got to trust you or someone like you to fix my car if you trust the wrong person to fix your car car's going to be fucked up. It's going to cost you a lot of money same thing with your body if someone's like hey. |
| 01:02:53.78 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
| 01:03:56.30 | Max Shank | You know, don't eat bananas because they have too much sugar. Maybe you believe that and you never have a banana and that's maybe not going to hurt you but you may be missing out so there it can be a negative. It can be just removing of a positive. |
| 01:03:24.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we got look Yeah, we look at be one ways is track records but the other thing is also a lot of times people I think people are searching for that perfect mentor like this person has everything that I want and that's probably not going to happen and. |
| 01:04:53.48 | Max Shank | Oo yeah, the perfect teacher I'm just waiting I'm gonna I'm gonna really get it together once I find the perfect teacher see the problem Mike is I don't have a good role model I got all these guys that are like 90% role models. But it's just not enough for me to try anything yet. But. |
| 01:04:28.74 | mikebledsoe | A. |
| 01:05:27.42 | Max Shank | I Know the right guy is out there when I find him. |
| 01:04:46.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so what I but I um I saw a a psychic once and she said stop looking for a mentor. There aren't any for you. You're gonna be your own and and I was like okay, whatever and um. |
| 01:05:54.32 | Max Shank | Oh yeah. |
| 01:05:26.12 | mikebledsoe | And and but it did get me thinking and I go you know there is no one person who really is living the lifestyle that I want to live like there's like if I really sit and dream about what's my ideal Lifestyle. No One's doing it now. There are people who have figured out the business stuff. Are people who figured out the health stuff they have figured out the things that I'm interested in but they I don't know anyone who's figured out the business side and the health side and the family side and all these things. Yeah except for max. Yeah, That's why you're here, but um, ah the. |
| 01:06:47.80 | Max Shank | It's very exciting. |
| 01:07:05.60 | Max Shank | Um, except for me except for me obviously. Is that is that a dig at both of us that we're that we're here Talking. He's like it's like you're such a loser. You're here talking to me. Ah. |
| 01:06:44.72 | mikebledsoe | Are. |
| 01:07:01.74 | mikebledsoe | So My my what I started doing I was like I was like look I'm gonna just learn about business from this guy I don't you know what? if he starts talking about anything that's not business grain assault it doesn't mean I'm gonna stop listening but I understand that he's the expert in this. And I'm gonna take from that he may be great. There's so many people who are really good at business and some of the health advice they give is really good for someone who's just obese and out of shape. But you know like they're not giving me health advice and someone who is some of the the top people in Health I mean you know you know this as well Like. Don't listen them for business advice at all and you want the relationships totally. |
| 01:09:06.38 | Max Shank | Or or relationship advice or you know language communication skills I mean you know you gotta separate the trait from the the persona like this mask that people like people just wear this mask and they're like I'm this guy I'm. |
| 01:08:47.58 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 01:09:45.84 | Max Shank | This is my character.. What do you think?? Ah, the last thing you want to do because then you get trapped two ways. Ah you'll dislike some people so ah, aggressively. That you'll ignore what they say even if they say something really wise that would be super helpful for you. So I think I'm actually quite good at this because I dislike so many. No I'm just kidding but you have to be able to separate the bit of information that is being. |
| 01:09:35.76 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, have the um. |
| 01:10:49.84 | Max Shank | Sent to you that you are receiving the message that you're receiving from the messenger. It's like don't kill the messenger but hey look don't glorify him either and that's maybe the the key to messaging in general is you don't want to glorify but you also don't want to kill the messenger and it should. |
| 01:10:21.26 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, um. |
| 01:11:26.14 | Max Shank | You want to try to separate it from how you feel about the ah the persona or the the mask um it it makes me think of ancient Egypt. Of course where they would do trials in the dark so you couldn't be swayed by knowing who was who ah so. |
| 01:11:14.80 | mikebledsoe | Move. |
| 01:12:04.20 | Max Shank | I Think that's really important but certainly ah. |
| 01:11:30.58 | mikebledsoe | It's a skill. It's a skill to develop is to not throw the baby out with the bathwater and I I um I ah yeah I was talking to Ashley the other day I was like I'm she's like. |
| 01:12:22.64 | Max Shank | It's like a ego release I don't like that guy So I'm gonna reject him. |
| 01:12:06.16 | mikebledsoe | Man you you tend to get a lot of hard cases like I'm I'm very good at dealing with difficult men men who tend to be you know? Ah,, there's something that's that's wounded or there's some like heavy. Ah, ego or whatever it is. They're real heavy and something and they they tend they um they tend to they tend to turn a lot of people off. But for some reason I have the patience to sit through some of the bullshit or. |
| 01:13:34.80 | Max Shank | Feels like I'm being attacked right now. |
| 01:13:19.54 | mikebledsoe | You know, a lot of the the what's guarded in order to get to the gold and I was like yeah think that like like I I'm not quick to and a lot of it just comes down to Judgment. It's like yeah I'm I'm really just always looking for the good and everybody and. And not that they're a good person but that they have something that is of value I look for the value in every single person because I know that every single person they know something deeply that I I don't know yet and ah everything about who they are is what has created that. |
| 01:15:01.72 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 01:14:34.60 | mikebledsoe | That possibility from that for them to have that Knowledge. So for me to judge all parts of them before I get to that nugget would it would keep me from finding it but also like coming from a place of appreciating like the reason a guy you know. But try to stay away from naming names. But the reason some of these people that they're they're kind of crazy in a lot of ways. They're not.. They're not mainstream, but the the gold is with the people who are so outside they're outliers that most people can't understand or get along with them. |
| 01:16:05.20 | Max Shank | Crazy compared to what I mean they're all relative terms. But I think that's. |
| 01:16:24.80 | Max Shank | The freaks the freaks the teslas you know the person the the ah marcones they're like hey what do you think if we like vibrate something through the air across the atlantic and they're like yeah that sounds that would be really nice if we could send messages. |
| 01:15:48.12 | mikebledsoe | But free. Yeah. |
| 01:17:03.82 | Max Shank | Across this gigantic Ocean. They're like yeah,, let's let's try it out like the freaks are where you get like the really juicy Gold. It's like we all get a shovel and if you dig one hole your entire Life. You're going to dig a lot deeper into that topic or you can dig a bunch of different holes. Like I'll dig a tennis hole over here I'll dig a fitness hole over here I'll dig a you know philosophy hole over here and like a nietzsche hole and a young and you know you're digging all these holes but the people who only dig one hole and they go all the way down they go as deep as they can. With this fucking topic I speak from personal experience because while I have a lot of diverse interests. It All does come back to energy transformation whether it's tennis where we're like I'm literally transforming the ah energy of my body. Transferring it into the ball when I'm playing music same thing I'm basically turning sausages into sound with my fingers. So I eat sausages I get the energy to move my fingers. It makes noise. It's incredible. But. I have spent such a tremendous amount of time in ah fitness and Health ah pain Mobility Strength athleticism that I feel a little crazy about it and you can't help Um, but. Feel compassion for people who are just barely into the Journey. You know you realize like are they bad? Are they good. It's like they're on a different path even if they're on the same path as you they're either ahead or behind or left or right it's um, it's It's all compassion related that allows you. To let people feel free and open to let that energy out because usually it's an energy blockage and that's what the ego is the ego is like an energy trap and it it captures some of the shit right? you and I have a conversation. And it's basically 1 plus 1 makes 3 because it's you and I and now there's this ah Harmony or resonance between us and it could be more dissonant or it could be more resonant and harmonious. But it's this third, it's this. Third thing that is the relationship between those entities and if you say something I like or you just say nice things about me. Maybe my ego filter will like capture those things I'll be like ah I'm gonna I'm gonna store this energy up now and it's usually not conscious. |
| 01:21:35.28 | mikebledsoe | A. |
| 01:22:35.68 | Max Shank | Which things we store and which things we don't but it can ah it can direct the flow and it can also plug the flow if you get too much ego in there. So the ego diverts the flow but it can also clog it up a little bit. |
| 01:22:25.38 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, agreed I want to shift back because I never finished one point that I got what is extremely practical for people and that is started saying that. |
| 01:23:11.92 | Max Shank | That's kind of how I think of it. |
| 01:23:02.20 | mikebledsoe | When you were talking about being able to go back and rebuild your toolset and I did that because I went nomadic didn't have anything and I've since purchased a house three months ago and I rented a house for twelve months in Austin Texas and. It was I still didn't a it didn't feel like home didn't I didn't feel very permanent I really couldn't do anything to the House. So I I didn't accumulate any new tools there but in the last three months of owning a home I have a i. |
| 01:24:37.30 | Max Shank | A. |
| 01:24:12.46 | mikebledsoe | I've been very selective about which tools I buy because I walk into home Depot now and I want to buy everything I'm like oh I know what this could be used for I Know what this could be used for. But I yeah but that's that's the um. |
| 01:25:09.52 | Max Shank | That's what I did I was like supermarket sweep I was like hustling around there with a shopping cart just throwing stuff in the thing. |
| 01:24:49.40 | mikebledsoe | That's that's the warrior energy. Um Paul check had this conversation with me Doug and anders and he talked yeah, the the warrior tries to fucking kill everything and and part of that is he tries to accumulate the the warrior doesn't isn't worried about boundaries. |
| 01:25:45.66 | Max Shank | Hoarding. |
| 01:25:25.80 | mikebledsoe | He wants to see how big he can build the empire. How much can I accomplish how much can I accumulate The warrior is trying to accumulate and accomplish as much as possible. Yeah, it's the end and then and then when you move into the King Archetype What? you. |
| 01:26:28.60 | Max Shank | It's like the inhale. |
| 01:26:01.42 | mikebledsoe | What you move into is you and you realize how much energy is needed to maintain. Ah all of those new those boundaries. It's like oh I could go weigh the fuck over there but do I want to build a wall that far out and then have to protect. |
| 01:27:15.96 | Max Shank | Manage it. |
| 01:26:38.94 | mikebledsoe | And manage everything inside that wall and so a good king when when Matures well goes. You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna draw a boundary that's inside of my ability to manage it and this goes back to money management too. It's like living within your means is a really good practical application of this. Spend less than you make and so the the War The the warrior will walk into home Depot and fill the basket with a bunch of stuff that he thinks he may need ah for some future project because there's an idea but when you when someone gets in the King Archetype which. |
| 01:28:04.60 | Max Shank | Seems simple. |
| 01:27:56.30 | mikebledsoe | Like it's funny because I I heard this and as I've you know in the last couple years I've I've felt myself moving into it and I think that especially especially in the the spiritual community right now people are like talking about Kings and queens and all this in in the woooo community. |
| 01:29:07.88 | Max Shank | I Prefer to be a thought of as a God King is a little lower I wanted to be like the emperor of exercise for a while but it didn't really satisfy my craving for divine power. So I'm skipping I was warrior for a long time Emperor king. |
| 01:28:34.94 | mikebledsoe | A. |
| 01:29:01.50 | mikebledsoe | Well I think what's important when we think about archetypes is you're you are able to ah cultivate the energy of that archetype you are not that archetype don't don't let the ego get confused and that you're not a King you're not. |
| 01:29:45.14 | Max Shank | Not really my speed. So. |
| 01:30:20.58 | Max Shank | It's like putting on a persona. |
| 01:29:40.96 | mikebledsoe | You're not a warrior you are you are inhabiting the energy of a warrior you are inhabiting and so I think that's it's you're playing a character. It's It's a really healthy place to approach psychologically because it allows you to be much more agile in your thinking and your ability to to. |
| 01:30:38.60 | Max Shank | You're playing a character almost. |
| 01:30:20.24 | mikebledsoe | Show up the way is needed for the the moment people who get stuck in 1 identity you know thing it works for a while and then it becomes troublesome but going back to the. |
| 01:31:19.44 | Max Shank | Well to be a good Tactician you need to be able to put yourself in the perspective of the other entities involved in your campaign. So let's say No yeah I mean. |
| 01:30:56.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, if you're ever gonna get to that point where you're actually working strategy like you're gonna get to the you're gonna be able to happen. Yeah, well this is why if you read a king warrior magician lover in order to get to the to a really well suited King Archetype and be able to. |
| 01:31:54.34 | Max Shank | Isn't all life that. |
| 01:31:36.60 | mikebledsoe | Energize that well is you have to have really explored the other archetypes because you have to understand how to have command over them. Um, and so um, so for for myself instead of walking in the home depot the last few months and |
| 01:32:35.56 | Max Shank | A he. |
| 01:32:12.94 | mikebledsoe | I've I wanted to there was the thought oh I could get this. This would be really good for this project I should get this for whatever I said no only and my girlfriend did the same that she was like she's like what don't you get the thing you know I can tell you want to get I'm like like yeah but I'm not gonna use it today and home depot is 5 minutes from my house. |
| 01:33:03.80 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:33:23.18 | Max Shank | Yeah, boom. |
| 01:32:49.96 | mikebledsoe | So it's not like you know and I know that there's there's a store near you too. It's not like you have to travel hours away to get your shit and now we got Amazon prime. Yeah, but yeah, and so now I just get I've been getting the tools that I really need. |
| 01:33:47.88 | Max Shank | You can order it online. Also you can order almost any tool. |
| 01:33:28.88 | mikebledsoe | For what I for that day that week. Whatever it is whatever project and only the ones I need and if I can borrow it and it's easy to get my hands on it I'll do that first because I may only need it once and so I've been slowly accumulating tools. So one of the things I've done is I've stuck with 1 brand for all my power tools. |
| 01:34:33.00 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 01:34:46.16 | Max Shank | I did the same ah, that's what I do I like the color it makes me feel cool. It makes me feel cool to have a drill that is like good enough for a contractor to use all day and I use it for 4 minutes every three weeks |
| 01:34:07.56 | mikebledsoe | Um, and I just I go with the wall and I oh sweet they and. |
| 01:34:36.00 | mikebledsoe | Exactly exactly. Ah. |
| 01:35:23.24 | Max Shank | You know I have this like heavy duty I have this heavy duty like Twisty gun with this five amp hour battery twenty is so aggressive for what I usually use it for but I love having like buy once cry once get like one good. |
| 01:35:04.92 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:35:59.12 | Max Shank | Tool especially for the core group. Ps yeah ah. |
| 01:35:18.14 | mikebledsoe | Well, that's what that's what I like about that's what I like about duwalt like my dad always taught him is like get craftsman hammers because if you break the if you break the the handle on it. They replace it for free. Lifetime warranties on those things and then de walt I looked at the guarantees I shopped around I had a couple who were like oh you should get Riob I'm like have but the guarantee is not nearly as good as de waltz. |
| 01:36:44.64 | Max Shank | And it depends on the person like if you go all riobi. You'll probably be fine. Um, if you want to go like see something really cool. There's actually a Youtube channel called project farm and he does these tests of tools and they're incredible. |
| 01:36:39.14 | mikebledsoe | Project Farm okay |
| 01:37:22.36 | Max Shank | He is really a project farm new video every Sunday guys the man he basically goes through a whole battery of tests. So. It's like a 10 to 20 minute long video. It looks like they take him ah like twenty forty hours to make per video. It's so. Brutal because he'll you know test different tools in like None different ways and really objective so he shows you what kind of wear and tear they can handle can they be left out in the rain for a week. What kind of rust if it really good so getting the right tool is a big point for this ah some some cheap ass tools are just as good if not better than the expensive ones so you don't always get what you pay for ah, the other thing I would say is even. |
| 01:37:52.48 | mikebledsoe | Down. |
| 01:38:03.82 | mikebledsoe | Um. Yeah. |
| 01:39:12.46 | Max Shank | Gosh Even if you don't think you're very craft mine minded or craft. Ah crafty I was trying to not say crafty I was like ah you know? ah. |
| 01:38:49.96 | mikebledsoe | Crafty. I I knew you wanted to say it I had to give you permission. |
| 01:39:49.48 | Max Shank | A little bit of that ah feels really nice. Um, and maybe it's just maybe it's just because I don't do it very often. But every time I go into the workshop and start building things. You just get into this flow and you know the creative force is. |
| 01:39:11.78 | mikebledsoe | Really good. |
| 01:40:27.38 | Max Shank | Is such a ah powerful Energy. So the connection with ah the work that you do and the attention that you put into something and the result is is really neat. It doesn't have to be Woodworking. You could build stuff out of clay you could. Ah, make stuff out of legos I mean they're all different ways you do macrame That's pretty fun. |
| 01:40:27.34 | mikebledsoe | Well, there's there's something primal about I think building something that has utility and that anytime I build something that that like woodworking man it just turns my my girlfriend on so much and that like and it's. |
| 01:41:40.20 | Max Shank | Then you take her to the woodshed. |
| 01:41:04.64 | mikebledsoe | That's right, but it's um, it The fact that ignites something in her. It's like and then that that then feeds back into me I'm like I'm like oh I did something fucking. You know, impressive and because I mean everything that we do is men is really for women you know women are. And are definitely in charge of this whole thing. Yeah. |
| 01:42:29.32 | Max Shank | It's all for sex the more I think about it the more I like what? why are we? Why are we trying to get food so we can have sex later. Why are we trying to run away from the tiger. So we can have sex later. That's it why? Why are we building this. |
| 01:42:09.58 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, yeah, was it supposed to Pat. |
| 01:43:02.64 | Max Shank | This big nest to attract a female so we can have sex. It's it's ah it's all about sex across the board. All the fighting is for sex. It's is crazy. Ah, but that's the how else could it be That's light and dark connecting. |
| 01:42:27.52 | mikebledsoe | Um, sex and it's crazy. Yeah. |
| 01:42:52.42 | mikebledsoe | What's ah, that's how we got here as ah, that's all a human human race continues on. |
| 01:43:35.24 | Max Shank | That's the vibration of everything. Evolution evolution is God's savage boredom playing out. Basically it's it's this this divine creation. Not divine necessarily but the force of creation who knows the Tao Darkness some some sort of thing. There. It's ah it's just it's just dancing on and offs at different levels and it's somehow perfectly Fair. You know what? I mean like the the forces are perfectly fair when you think about how different creatures have organized themselves some are spiky. |
| 01:43:54.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:45:02.26 | Max Shank | Some are armored some are venomous. It's all just about ah energy management right? Some are really fast. Some are really so like a tortoise versus ah I don't know like a Hummingbird tortoise lives way longer. |
| 01:44:31.44 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:44:56.90 | mikebledsoe | Yeah now. Yeah. |
| 01:45:40.64 | Max Shank | Relatively speaking is a very interesting thing but so it all comes back to energy management and tools are a way to gain leverage and focus that energy we can actually focus it in like ah like a pickaxe. Something like that. So we can focus energy down to a finer point or we can focus it on to ah a much larger area like a mallet or something like that and using the right tool for the job is is pretty big. |
| 01:46:01.60 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah I would find the same thing in the kitchen I witnessed people trying to cook something. They don't have the right type of pan. They don't have the right knives The knives aren't sharp the you know they don't have the right spatula like like people. |
| 01:47:16.10 | Max Shank | It's a hodgepodge. |
| 01:46:37.52 | mikebledsoe | People who don't like to cook usually don't have a great kitchen and if you put somebody if yeah if I put somebody who doesn't like to cook in my house for a month and we started cooking together I bet you they start liking to cook because they go. |
| 01:47:31.60 | Max Shank | Chicken or the egg right? ah. |
| 01:47:14.00 | mikebledsoe | Oh it's actually really easy. Yeah, you just do this and then you do this and then it's very low effort. Yeah, you can get exactly what you want and yeah have some music playing. Yeah. |
| 01:48:00.48 | Max Shank | Can always get exactly what you want easy to modify have a bunch of different sauces handy when when I cook. That's how I like to do it I like to give a few options make it really modular like I get the. Couple meats get a couple breads get a couple sauces mix and match Boom Boom Boom We're off track. Let's bring it. Let's bring it home. Okay, so the topic again was tools and skills. We talked about role models which is kind of a cool. Um. |
| 01:48:00.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah I think we nail the topics fairly. Well yeah I was bring a home tools and skills. |
| 01:49:15.26 | Max Shank | Way to bring it all together. Um not necessarily lumping the the practitioner with the skill that you're trying to learn right? That's that's a big that's a big one. |
| 01:48:57.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, like like ah, choosing who you learn from wisely. You know, understanding what they're an expert at what they're not an expert at. Um, sticking with just the things that an expert at and then also judging how much of an expert they are at that thing based on their track record and if you can find somebody has a track record that's decades old you're doing pretty fucking Good. So But yeah in regard that. |
| 01:50:31.94 | Max Shank | Yeah, it's good to be objective. Yeah, ah basically you're talking about who who to choosing who to trust which ah, that's a big one for any relationship right. |
| 01:49:56.40 | mikebledsoe | How to choose a ah wise elder. |
| 01:50:07.60 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. Yeah, so mentor Mentee so we're gonna pick up a lot. You know you could either fumble through and try to figure things out for yourself which you will do a lot of that. That's that's gonna be ever present in your life. You should always be you know. How much time did I in the last year did I spend in Quickbooks just fumbling around and doing things and then seeing the report and going and then realizing oh I should categorize this like this and because I want my report to look like this and it took a lot of fumbling around. While also having a mentor for the whole thing so it was a mix of the two is a mix of getting some instruction from someone who's got decades of experience that has proof in the pudding and then also fumbling around a lot myself and then realizing that this is one of the things that's like really great about being older. |
| 01:52:32.98 | Max Shank | The fumbling is fun. |
| 01:52:45.86 | Max Shank | Oh shit, he's older now appeal to authority old man I'm old listen to me I'm old. That's what you sound like Mike Trust trust me I'm old trust me I'm old. |
| 01:52:05.44 | mikebledsoe | Is I now I now have a history of I have enough History. Ah. Ah, it's true though you should listen listen up listen up. Well you know there there are some people who are 40 that haven't really paid attention maybe shouldn't listen to them I think I've paid attention to about half of my life. So I'm doing okay, but. I Think that with age comes the perspective and that I now understand how long it takes to learn something to be actually skilled at it for me exactly and so and so like it used to I used to believe that I should be able. |
| 01:54:00.38 | Max Shank | For you? Yeah, totally. |
| 01:53:38.40 | mikebledsoe | This happens with athletes all the time they get in the gym I want to squat £500 like you do squat £300 right now. It's gonna take you maybe years to get to 500 and they're like no I'll get there faster like £5 a week times so many weeks and and maybe but but um, but what i. |
| 01:54:45.16 | Max Shank | Maybe yeah. |
| 01:54:16.34 | mikebledsoe | What I look at is I mean I miscalculate my progress constantly and in the wait room. |
| 01:55:06.22 | Max Shank | I Always calculate my progress perfectly. What do you think of that this is all working exactly as I planned talking to you. |
| 01:54:32.88 | mikebledsoe | Ah, so. So the so but I realize how how long it takes me to learn something and so I give myself so much more grace and which is interesting is because when I give myself grace and I give myself. A lot of time to learn something and even when I went through this financial course they were like you should be able to get through this in this amount of time and I I So came back to them within a couple weeks after looking at the content I go. It's gonna take me about twice as long and part of it is I Really like to get into the content I don't want to just pass over it. |
| 01:56:34.74 | Max Shank | People are different too I know exactly what you're talking about I am the same way and the the reaction the ego reaction when I try to learn something new. A lot of the time especially in the workshop is holy fuck I'm retarded I am so so. |
| 01:55:56.28 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 01:57:11.62 | Max Shank | I am so stupid I can't build a box. How am I going to build this fucking box and I'm drawing stuff on a piece of paper and I'm like I can't make 3 dimensions on a None dimensional paper I don't know how to fucking draw this thing and then so I'm here I'm like in my garage sweating suffering thinking. Um, how fucking stupid am I that I can't make a square I can't do it I can draw a square but the idea of manufacture. So what I ended up doing is I took a bunch of tiny planks and I learned about the relationship of pieces of wood. By thickness width and length and I made these boards that have a one ah for thickness to None to width and None to length and I learned how they fit together not thinking of the dimensions as um. Metrics that we normally use like ah imperial or metric I thought of them as ratios and figured out how to put stuff and it wasn't until I held these boards in my hands and actually glued some of them together these tiny little ah ratio. |
| 01:58:33.60 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, yeah. |
| 01:58:50.74 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 01:59:49.24 | Max Shank | Ah, tester board like I I want to like give the other retarded kids who might feel like me some of these boards because it wasn't until I made these that I was like oh that's how you can factor in the thickness to join stuff together. But I so resonate with you because I also like to go deep into a topic. And if I just kind of ah glance through it I just feel stupid I feel so far behind it's it's it's Crazy. It's crazy how how like dumb I feel but then this is where it's cool because what you said is awesome. That is what allows you to have. |
| 01:59:59.70 | mikebledsoe | Ah, accurate. Well. |
| 02:01:04.90 | Max Shank | Compassion for others is when you're fumbling around and you're like God if I'm like this like maybe it's It's differently hard for other people to to do other stuff because you know words are tools also and most people um, not only talk shit but they talk like shit. |
| 02:00:44.34 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 02:01:41.88 | Max Shank | Can't express themselves very well at all and should you like blame them and shame them or should you recognize that they've just had this working pattern for a really long time and it really changes the perspective. |
| 02:01:19.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. |
| 02:02:19.68 | Max Shank | That was a good one. |
| 02:01:38.88 | mikebledsoe | That was a good one. Yeah, so so you're gonna fumble around listen to listen to people who have good track records and yeah, really I think one of the key points you brought home was pay attention. |
| 02:02:30.16 | Max Shank | Ladies and gentlemen. |
| 02:02:14.22 | mikebledsoe | Energy ins and outs and everything in between so people normally see how that you know they know how to put gas in the gas tank and they know to push the pedal and steer the car and that's usually where the knowledge ends and if you want to have a ah. Ah, deeper understanding of it I think that's a good way to approach it when it comes to money when it comes to cars when it comes to the plumbing in your house. Um, yeah, yeah I had somebody. You know, screw some up with the plumbing in my house I'm like how did you get? How did you do that? It's like you know you shoot and put that. |
| 02:04:06.00 | Max Shank | There. |
| 02:03:30.34 | mikebledsoe | There and they're like why I go oh because they'll get stuck down the pipe to today then they're like oh I didn't think about that I was like oh I realized they didn't think about the entire system of plumbing. They've existed on the planet for 30 years and never thought about it. But now they will um but ah yeah I think I think we. That's a good Let's get a little cap on this. |
| 02:04:52.44 | Max Shank | Yeah I I love it man um you want to step one understand the flow of energy and the path and the components involved and step 2 is you want to learn how to manage. |
| 02:04:42.28 | mikebledsoe | Um, a is it is. |
| 02:05:28.98 | Max Shank | That energy flow cash flow conversation flow um managing the flow of energy using tools in the physical world like on a piece of wood or managing the flow of energy using the tools called words to direct the flow of attention which is perhaps the most. Ah, powerful energy because it is full on quantum as it relates to our human conspiracy called language and um, you know use the right tool for the job you can significantly amplify the output energy versus the input energy using. Leverage and that that's that's it folks that was awesome I had so much fun talking about that today I had so much fun building shit I I built this box. It was indestructible for my buddy oners I called a strong man pinata I made him climb up a tree. |
| 02:06:08.14 | mikebledsoe | Beautifully said beautifully said. Yeah yeah. |
| 02:06:30.54 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 02:07:26.76 | Max Shank | To grab a sledgehammer and then I locked this box that I built and this box was like bombproof. It was like one inch thick plywood on all sides with 2 by 4 s reinforcing the inside. It was so fucking na he hit it like a none times and that. It would not break so I had to ah take it off the chains and put it on the ground then he could finally hit it against something but it was it was so much fun. Another box. |
| 02:07:39.42 | mikebledsoe | What was inside. |
| 02:07:52.78 | mikebledsoe | Um, very clever. |
| 02:08:37.72 | Max Shank | Ah, and then ah and then a little piece of paper with a clue. There was nothing for him except go to the next step in the but it was awesome. Ah, anyway it was. It was so good. Um. |
| 02:08:09.48 | mikebledsoe | Ah, oh so it's just a piece of the scavenger hunt. Okay, got it. |
| 02:09:16.70 | Max Shank | Anyway, Mike thanks for the the chat that was awesome I loved the way that we managed our energy today. Thanks everybody for listening catch y'all next week Mike where can they find you. |
| 02:08:36.86 | mikebledsoe | Absolutely absolutely yeah and find me on Instagram Mike Underscore Bloodso and just keep tuning in to the blood. So show now. Um None thing. Oh. And I also have a summit coming up if you go to http://thestrongcoach.com or shop dot thes strongcoach dot com you can check that out. Got a lot of cool speakers coming in to talk at that. It's a pay what you want. And lastly, if you're interested in how to. Manage your cash flow better just shoot me a dm I've got a little course I can share with you. |
| 02:10:37.20 | Max Shank | Cool man later folks. |
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| 00:00.00 | mikebledsoe | Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're gonna be talking about order and chaos. You know I think that there's a place for both and society as a whole likes to swing really really hard and me as an individual I do the same thing max. Thanks for joining for another Monday as we discuss topics that seem highly abstract and somehow try to get it to become practical for the listeners. |
| 00:28.90 | Max Shank | Yeah I think order and chaos could be the name of our show because it's really quite a chaotic ride I think it's an excellent train of thought that gets frequently derailed. But that's part of what makes it fun and interesting and not only do I think order and chaos are ah definitive of each other they define each other i. I think what you said is perfect. We we swing back and forth really hard from more order to more chaos and we try to get tighter control and then more freedom and ah you know more openness or more boundary setting and that back and forth ah can be. Can be really exciting and in societies actually None of the things that's really important about playing and especially wrestling roughhousing that sort of thing is understanding the line between fighting and play fighting and ah. Being able to introduce chaos in a safe environment because the whole purpose of society is to create order reduce chaos as much as possible so you need something to dose you. With chaos. So you don't become um a a sissy and sad. |
| 04:01.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, that and it yeah said I mean the like for me creativity happens after things get shaken up I think about um, no structure is the structure forever. Um, we the human spirit desires for change because we also live in an environment. Ah, ah, ever present change and um, you know we got to if we want to have some stability. We do need to set up structures in society. We need to set up structures in our own life. But we also need to recognize when it's time to assess and reassess these things and I think creating those safe spaces like you're saying where we can't introduce chaos in small amounts or over a short period of time in ah and a confined space. Ah. Really allows us to not have to go through really big societal bits of chaos which I think we're experiencing right now. There's when I think about rites of passage for young men that has been. Ah, regularly conducted over Millennia and it hasn't really happened in american society in the last few generations and so nature comes along and says hey um. Noticed that you guys haven't introduced any of this planned chaos. Ah you know a rite of passage for a man usually involves being out of control and and being needing to submit to the universe and. And usually facing death in some way or the acknowledgement of death and it can feel It's a big pattern interrupt and pattern interrupts tend to be a little chaotic in nature and when a society or an individual. Has been comfortable for too long in their order then nature is going to come along and shake it up because everything's always changing and we may be fighting to keep it the same but at some point the environment's going to break the the individual or the culture. |
| 08:24.35 | Max Shank | Yes, and you also sacrifice some of the excitement of life if you imagine someone who was born in a castle isolated from most of the world. There's going to be None of order. None exposure to chaos and they may live their whole life in that environment and then have a child of their own that lives in that environment but eventually ah just like the seasons change and ah different. Creatures Rise up and overcome in different parts of the ecosystem. Ah the people in power never stay up there for long and the more you try to create order the more fragile that individual becomes because they're not dosed. With that chaos and that stimulus because our bodies and minds are always adapting via the said principle. So We're always adjusting to what's going on. So if you have no exposure to Chaos. You will be much more fragile. Ah. |
| 10:54.40 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 10:50.13 | Max Shank | By by definition. |
| 11:18.74 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I'm listening to a book by Ray Dalio right now I think it's called the rise of the rise of nation rise and fall of nations or something like that and he he he's talking about the 5 cycles through a society and. |
| 11:10.69 | Max Shank | M. |
| 11:24.51 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 11:58.14 | mikebledsoe | You know if you've read the fourth turning they they identify None cycles. He identifies 5 and these cycles last about 100 years or the the cycles last about 2025 years and there's 4 or 5 of them depending on which expert you ask? and basically what happens is it. Ah, you the society falls into ah each generation becomes more and more chaotic until it's unbearable and that everyone who's like and it usually ends in civil war and external war and then everybody says. Fuck it. We need. We need more order. You know the the economics are broken where everyone's fighting with each other It's it's highly disordered and then what you end up with is a whole yeah a whole generation comes comes along and is like starving for it. So they. |
| 13:04.10 | Max Shank | The big prick comes in. |
| 13:19.11 | Max Shank | Yeah, one and it's ah. |
| 13:52.30 | mikebledsoe | They're wanting I mean that that's basically how Hitler got the power right? Germany was experiencing an incredible amount of chaos and this guy says you know what? if you just do what I say then things will be better and and they were for a while. There's there's there's videos of like. |
| 13:33.19 | Max Shank | Exactly. |
| 13:52.97 | Max Shank | And it's frightening. |
| 14:31.72 | mikebledsoe | The the population gathering and arenas and exercising together. They were like very lockstep and everything was really good for a short period of time until the 1 person who was in charge decided to fucking go nuts and one of the thing. |
| 14:34.17 | Max Shank | Right? Where there's there's like a line where people are like you know we're really glad that this ah this dick really like got things under control. You know it was a little too chaotic I felt afraid there was pillaging and rioting and then that dictator. Crosses the line and everyone's like whoa, not like that and then and then it goes back to you know, just that did that to that to da today. |
| 15:47.14 | mikebledsoe | Um, well the the danger is is when you're when you're in ah and a highly ordered society like that the the amount of thinking by the individual is reduced because they don't have to make as many choices and so. They're less likely.. There's that slippery slope they're less likely to catch poor judgment from the top because it's been so good and just one value judgment at a time and next thing you know you're just killing a bunch of people. |
| 16:15.69 | Max Shank | Yo absolutely and you you can understand why that would attract people I remember watching this series. Excellent series. The dictator's playbook. The episode on Mussolini he's you know, given a speech from some balcony and he goes None italy None decision and everyone goes. Yeah, they are. |
| 17:51.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 17:24.61 | Max Shank | Onboard They want a so bad like None maybe hundreds. It's so many people and they were so excited that he's like look I will call the shots. You guys don't want to trouble yourselves with these minor details I will take care of everything and. If you've had a good lady or significant other in your life having someone make decisions for you effectively in ah is amazing like there are certain things like some. You have this comparative advantage where someone else now is responsible for stocking the kitchen stocking the bathrooms getting this taken care of like you know you have that division of management basically and it feels amazing. Like if you get the right person to make your decisions you are on Easy Street. It's just ah, absolute power right. |
| 19:55.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well I think I think the the happy medium with that because I agree is is you know when you have for instance in the United States you have if you had None person if we had a dictatorship you have None person making the. Decision for 350000000 people. It's not possible for the human mind to be able to grasp the actual impact of the decision on on the individuals and this makes me think about Dunbar's number you know was a. |
| 20:42.37 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 21:10.94 | mikebledsoe | Around None is about as many people as 1 person can keep up with in relationship after that you know people all kind of start looking the same. You don't make as much eye contact. You're not going to remember their names. You're you're not in community and this is why a lot of churches. |
| 21:07.45 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 21:49.94 | mikebledsoe | What they do is they break up after they get to about 150 members and then another church will open up. Ah yeah, and so these like that most churches do that. But in some churches become megachurches and have 10000 members or something like that. |
| 21:37.77 | Max Shank | It's like setting up little franchises with limits. |
| 21:56.53 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 22:28.92 | mikebledsoe | And that requires a higher level of leadership and hierarchy hierarchy has to be built into the system in order for that to happen. So when there's and the same thing for Crossfit Gyms all these crossfit gyms sprung up a decade ago and we all watched it happen. It. |
| 22:10.19 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 23:05.62 | mikebledsoe | It was a very community driven thing and when it got about 150 members 1 member goes I could do this better. They go open another gym and then they pull some of the gym members away and it's it's just like church and. |
| 22:53.27 | Max Shank | Ah, crossfits are like church well said I agree there are a lot of similarities there I'm on board. |
| 23:41.28 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, there's a lot of similarities. Yeah, but I think it's a really great demonstration of Dumbbar's number and that the person the person that I'm gonna trust to help. |
| 23:29.31 | Max Shank | O. |
| 24:13.36 | mikebledsoe | So make decisions for me right? There's somebody on my team and my company my girlfriend my close group of friends. You know, somebody's organizing a ah ah week long vacation I don't even ask me any questions. They just tell me how much money to throw in the pot and then I show up I'm okay with that. But when we start dealing with people I've never met before and have never met me and now they're making decisions on my behalf I think that becomes problematic. |
| 24:31.63 | Max Shank | Well, yeah I mean that's that's trust right there I mean who who you choose to trust is a really important choice choosing the right doctor instead of the wrong doctor. Choosing the right trainer instead of the wrong trainer right? Coach instead of the wrong coach and it's not that there it was an absolute good and an absolute bad.. It's just whether or not the resultant partnership or collaboration is gonna be constructive or not because. Some people respond really well to ah stick-based motivation and competitiveness and some people respond way better to carrot-based motivation and creativity and Non-competitiveness. So just finding the right? um. Partnership there like who do you trust with that area of your life is massive. |
| 26:59.62 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and going into trust I think one of the reasons we're we're in a massive amount of chaos in our society right now is because there is a lack of trust you know nobody like like the trust of the media is an all time low. |
| 26:43.99 | Max Shank | Um, well yeah. |
| 27:37.62 | mikebledsoe | Politicians is an all time low you you ask the average american and they'll just be like yeah the the news and the the politicians are all full of shit. You know there's probably twenty thirty percent think it's still good. But. |
| 27:25.71 | Max Shank | Which I think is which I think is good I think ah like a skeptical society will actually come up with better solutions but trust saves Calories. Ah the whole Concept. Of a group is built on trust the the whole the whole thing is trust based ah fiat currency all these different things you're trusting that the person in charge is going to do. What's best for You. You're trusting that. Um. You know if you help out with the hunt that you're going to get some of the bounty from that hunt and that we're all going to be part of this unit. We're going to look out for each other.. It's like you scratch my back I'll scratch yours and having those relationships. Is the most powerful thing there is like I think of one of the best survival tools as a radical Rolodex So Just having the right array of people that you can call experts in different fields. But more importantly people that you trust to give you. Real solid Answer. So our whole response to bringing order into chaos bringing order out of chaos is based on faith or Trust. Ah, even if you take it from a religious standpoint. You are putting your faith or trust in a supreme being that we cannot see so it's all it's all trust you could say that? yeah. |
| 31:12.48 | mikebledsoe | Know or or you could say that that supreme being is everything and everywhere and you see it all the time. But yeah, that's what I say. Ah. |
| 31:13.51 | Max Shank | I'm pretty sure God is a butterfly. It's the butterfly God Yeah, the other all the other ones are not true I mean I'm pretty religious but it's definitely the butterfly god. |
| 31:45.94 | mikebledsoe | The Butterfly god. |
| 32:04.78 | mikebledsoe | There you go. So I I think I think back to like personal experiences with order and chaos and I watch I look at my own life and I watch my own self I'm one of those people that the pendulum swings pretty hard. I Think for some people the pendulum kind of hangs out in the middle for me. It's I go really deep into chaos and then really deep into order and ah, there's not a lot of time spent in the middle. But for me I think that helps with ah. |
| 32:39.39 | Max Shank | Go. |
| 33:23.50 | mikebledsoe | More progress is it's definitely not the less least painful way of going about it. But I find it's not for everybody but when I'm but everyone does experience that everyone goes to these cycles of order and chaos and the when I go into. |
| 33:06.10 | Max Shank | It's not for everybody. |
| 33:59.68 | mikebledsoe | Times of order what I see is a destruction of the structures. Ah that I had set up in my life previously. Whatever rituals or routines that I had previously were swept away So a really good example of this is I went I sold all my things. |
| 33:32.25 | Max Shank | Length. |
| 34:39.80 | mikebledsoe | Got down to two bags and went nomadic for a few years I really didn't have much of anything I left my books with some friends. Yeah yeah, dude I I did some crazy shit Um, during that time it was it. |
| 34:20.60 | Max Shank | Speaking of a rite of passage right? feels like a rite of passage. |
| 35:15.32 | mikebledsoe | I destroyed everything like I I left the business I had spent years building I ended up getting divorced I was traveling didn't have a home the level of novelty that was always present was so high that getting making progress on any None thing was. Was close to impossible including taking care of my own health and but it was a really necessary time for me to reestablish a new structure so I needed to I desired a. |
| 35:29.75 | Max Shank | A. |
| 36:26.78 | mikebledsoe | New structure so much that I had to I had to really flatten the building I had to rebuild some people are just renovating their house all the time I needed to it was a teardown say my life is a Teardown. Let's just go back down to the slab. Let's go down to the slab and then rethink the floor plan. |
| 36:11.45 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 37:05.66 | mikebledsoe | And everything so the I think I think the reason yeah I think the reason people don't do that is because well when you've been living under 1 structure your whole life going back to the and rebuilding new floor plan. You have no idea what to do so there's there's the lack of. |
| 36:39.21 | Max Shank | Takes a lot more time to do that. Also. |
| 37:43.52 | mikebledsoe | Knowledge that can be scary for people to do that demolition plan and then the the knowing that man I I spent say None building this one house and now I'm just going to completely demolish it and start over I know that what I build next is going to be so much better. But. |
| 37:35.91 | Max Shank | Her. |
| 38:23.36 | mikebledsoe | That's a lot of work. |
| 37:56.33 | Max Shank | And absolutely and it's even ah, depending on. Ah how you're wired. It's more like choosing which limb to cut off because it's a part of you is like you're. |
| 38:54.38 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 38:30.73 | Max Shank | Your identity is wrapped up into whatever it is you have going on this marriage this business this habit this thing over here to like strip those away and start coming to the I I think. Crazy shocking realization that most of your like baggage and Bullshit was just thoughtlessly inherited just thoughtlessly and you you weren't like trying to inherit it. It was just Monkey See Monkey Do Bing Bam boom. |
| 39:58.54 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 39:48.63 | Max Shank | And you're like now I'm this and you get wrapped up into like I'm this and this is good cause I'm good and that's what I'm trying to say all the time. So why would you want to let that go in exchange for something that is unknown right? because that's what really scares people is like I'll take this from. |
| 40:44.56 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and. |
| 40:26.73 | Max Shank | Familiar pain to the unknown that is like I don't know if it's a devil's bargain or a fool's bargain but it doesn't sound like a good deal and yet that's what most of us make is we'll take the familiar pain I'll take familiar pain again. Thank you compared to the unknown. |
| 41:28.26 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, there's um I think in the landmark education they call it the winning strategy. So it's it's a strategy that you learn at a young age where you go Oh if I behave like this. |
| 41:03.49 | Max Shank | Ah, no yeah. |
| 41:17.77 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 41:29.70 | Max Shank | Um, ah yeah. |
| 42:04.72 | mikebledsoe | Then this happens or I get to avoid this by being like this I get to you know my dad got mad at me 1 time for doing this. You know I'll never do anything that resembles that ever again and now you become now that that becomes part of who you are and forms the personality and it becomes a winning strategy and. |
| 41:39.89 | Max Shank | Totally. |
| 42:15.71 | Max Shank | Oh man. |
| 42:44.80 | mikebledsoe | And you end up and you get the reward at a young age and then you start collecting evidence for that being a winning strategy. Yeah, you're like oh and you're unable to see where it's not working because it's the only thing that's present. So this is what creates the blind spots. |
| 42:27.79 | Max Shank | Um, it's like heroin. Oh my god. |
| 42:45.71 | Max Shank | Man. |
| 43:23.54 | mikebledsoe | And the the winning strategy is something that is very difficult to let go because it is usually very responsible for a lot of success in your life like somebody may their winning strategy may be shit talking themselves and that's and they overcome it like the beside Navy Seal's name. |
| 43:21.95 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 44:01.38 | mikebledsoe | Who are ah David Goggins yeah I mean he's he's highly accomplished but he seems miserable as fuck and so he he seems like it is like like he's a perfect example. David Goggins is a perfect example of somebody who. |
| 43:36.69 | Max Shank | Goggins. Yeah. |
| 44:41.32 | mikebledsoe | Has a winning strategy. It's getting him some type of reward. But it's costing him so much in his life that he's completely unaware of and doesn't he doesn't value it because he hasn't touched it yet and yet I've met I mean I went through this myself I went from becoming successful. |
| 44:37.30 | Max Shank | When. |
| 45:16.80 | mikebledsoe | Shit talking myself and what I was trying to avoid versus you know, ah talking to myself like I was a how would I talk to a None ar old. Well, that's probably how I should talk to myself and so anyways going back to the the people are afraid to give up that. Winning strategy because they're afraid that if they let go of that piece that that piece of their identity. They're not going to be good at something anymore and being good at something is what's earned them. Love. |
| 45:46.51 | Max Shank | Oh my God It's like a tool. It's It's like you're setting down your sword before you waltz into the Dragons Den It's like when I was a kid I learned about lying now. Okay, lying is a strategy. |
| 46:30.44 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 46:24.11 | Max Shank | That has almost no limits to it in terms of what you can get for Yourself. You can get out of trouble instantly so I was lying all the time growing up as soon as I was able to get away with it I mean what's a better rush than that and there are all kinds of behaviors like that. That they work so you just keep doing them. |
| 47:34.92 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, yeah, they work and then until they don't right? and this is this is where you know, um when we did when in psychology when when we look at like stages of development and. |
| 47:19.29 | Max Shank | Until they don't. |
| 48:13.72 | mikebledsoe | What ends up happening is the the things that that move you into one stage of development will end up being the things that hold you back from the next and in fact, when if you look at say the the model of spiral dynamics for psychology and and human development is you're actually moving from. Um. |
| 47:59.71 | Max Shank | A. |
| 48:52.36 | mikebledsoe | More of an eye oriented to a we oriented but there's also a bit of chaos and order on either side of that as well. So it's more of a spiral so you got we and I so some stages are more we oriented some stages more eye oriented but then it's it's not ah, it's not a straight line back and forth. It's ah it's a spiral. |
| 48:40.75 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 49:29.10 | mikebledsoe | And in between the eye and the we is is chaos and when you're making the transition and then you've got to bring the order back and so for people to want that chaos in their life. They usually have to be really unhappy with the way something's going on in their life. People when I think about this I think about ah people that have dysfunctional patterns of behavior and a lot of people I think think about oh I have anxiety or I have like some type of system a symptom that might show up in the Dsm um, Dsm whatever it is the. Psychology playbook of symptoms and diagnoses and they they think oh I've got this I'm suffering from this thing and that's the dysfunction. But it's not the best way to find dys function in your life is to just to see what's not working. What what do you desire to be different in your life but you can't seem to get there that to me that demonstrates that there's some type of dysfunction and usually people believe that there's nothing they can do about it. But once they get a hint. And they're just fucking sick and tired of this thing being true in their life. You're like you know I'm gonna do something about it fuck it and then they start digging deep and there's a lot of work to be done there but that that itself becomes chaotic because as you start making changes in your life. You basically have to start behaving differently for everyone else in your life. And they do not like that because they expect you to behave a certain way and that that creates relational chaos. |
| 52:14.97 | Max Shank | I Think of it in a very basic way which is you have momentum being a certain way and the easiest thing to do is just continue with that Momentum. That's the most effortless thing you can do. So your pain or discomfort needs to be proportional to the adjustment of your trajectory like you need to be dissatisfied or uncomfortable enough to overcome the momentum of living a certain way. And it's not until that happens that a person takes action. Otherwise why would they? it's pure law of least Action. We're going to do the minimum we can unless ah otherwise authorized from a higher order kind of function. And even that is going to be based on a ah big picture discomfort um with just letting things flow as they may. It's like ah I'm uncomfortable not doing this thing. It's it's too painful to not. Go to Mars anymore. It's too painful to not get a divorce anymore. It's too painful to not start a business anymore. Whatever it is. There's like it's different for everybody different pain threshold for different pain catalyst. |
| 55:40.30 | mikebledsoe | Everyone's got different rock bottom. Yeah, and that makes me think about our concept I I know I didn't create it. But um, the the feather I don't know where it came from the feather the break the Mac truck and if have I told you about this yet. |
| 55:46.10 | Max Shank | The feather the brick and the Mac truck. No no I told you this but why don't you go ahead and share it with everybody. |
| 56:28.20 | mikebledsoe | Are you. |
| 56:34.76 | mikebledsoe | Pretty out did I hear I didn't hear from you did you or did you are you the originator. |
| 56:15.21 | Max Shank | Go ahead. Just let let them know what it is. It's fine. Go ahead. |
| 56:55.98 | mikebledsoe | Um, so yeah, the the the feather the Breakke the mack truck. You always get the message very lightly in the beginning and most people ignore it then it comes a little harder and then it's a fucking mack truck and it runs you over. |
| 56:51.95 | Max Shank | Here. A e. |
| 57:31.96 | mikebledsoe | And think that the skill is learning to listen for feathers and so it's a it's a it's a it's about being more sensitive. Yeah. |
| 57:23.75 | Max Shank | Right? But you don't want to get startled every time you feel the wind either right? when there's nothing there. Yeah, you didn't get that for me for me. It's always been the wind the feather the brick and the Mac truck. |
| 58:04.28 | mikebledsoe | No, you gotta be you gotta be listening to the right thing. |
| 58:23.54 | mikebledsoe | The wind the feather oh shit oh shit, did you get it from somebody. Are you reading the same person or did you are you really an originator. Do you even know. |
| 58:12.97 | Max Shank | Now I just I just made the whole thing up I never heard of it until just now. But I thought it would be fun to ah, just throw that Monkey Wrench in there because because see for me. Ah I think. |
| 59:01.42 | mikebledsoe | Ah, the wind the fact. Okay, we'll throw in the wind now now we've got 4 levels. |
| 58:52.97 | Max Shank | It's it's like ah a hypochondriac. The hypochondriac is thinking. Everything is some health disaster and really they were just constipated or something like that and I think the line between Prudence and paranoia is a truly fascinating one. |
| 59:33.18 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, um. |
| 59:31.55 | Max Shank | Because everybody has a different idea of what is reasonable preparedness and responsibility like the ability to respond or not so it's It's really the same thing like what's the line between prudence and having like a very deep awareness. |
| 01:00:11.44 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:00:09.93 | Max Shank | Of what's going on around you and responding to the slightest stimulus so being a little I don't know hypersensitive versus like hyposensitive. It's ah it's an interesting thing. |
| 01:01:04.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:00:41.87 | Max Shank | So so like to kind of bring us back to that concept of the feather the brick and the Mac truck that what you're saying is change is or or like life. Let's say is giving you signals. |
| 01:01:43.28 | mikebledsoe | M. |
| 01:01:19.51 | Max Shank | And if you pay attention to the signal when it's really light. It's not going to cause you much harm. But if you if you wait the feather becomes a brick becomes a mac truck when it eventually just absolutely wrecks you. |
| 01:01:57.20 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
| 01:02:13.12 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, becomes more painful but also the amount of change that you're gonna have to make is probably more drastic so it's a double whammy you got extra pain and and additional work to do like I think about say somebody who is a. |
| 01:01:56.33 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 01:02:52.68 | mikebledsoe | A meth at it. You know if they're one weekend and they notice like oh I'm not getting good sleep I'm Jittery I you know I'm not paying attention at work or whatever and they and they go you know what? I've you know I'm gonna check myself into a clinic and I'm gonna kick this thing but then you got the person who's. |
| 01:02:25.25 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:02:38.41 | Max Shank | For her. |
| 01:03:31.22 | mikebledsoe | 10 years in you know they're missing their teeth like for them to be able to get their life back on track and get a job and all that is going to be monumentally more difficult. |
| 01:03:25.91 | Max Shank | Right? So going past the point of no return basically like how how hard it is. yeah yeah I mean David Goggins is a ah great example of ah. |
| 01:04:07.88 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's a point you cross where you never getting back? Yeah yeah. |
| 01:04:05.55 | Max Shank | Someone who has just made such an impression on so many people I think you know he he just flipped total extremes right? Big fat guy boom now I'm a Navy seal running millions of miles. Oh my foot's broken. |
| 01:04:55.40 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 01:04:45.43 | Max Shank | Who Cares stay hard and I think that now that Persona has gotten him speaking of winning strategies. So now even if he did say you know what I think a more gentle form of exercise is really the right choice for most people because. You know, Actually you're going to harm yourself long term by just running through these injuries. Ah, he almost can't do that now because he has got this winning strategy as this character and I think he. |
| 01:05:55.24 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. Well, you know. |
| 01:05:59.77 | Max Shank | Wants to be that character for himself and for everybody else I think he's got to be thinking. Wow This is an amazing thing that I am doing here and I'm this guy for myself and for these other folks. |
| 01:06:50.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think a lot of people are attracted to it because they yeah they're they're attracted to it and they want to do it. They want to be like it. But I think it's a it's. |
| 01:06:37.95 | Max Shank | Superhero shit. Of course it's attractive. |
| 01:07:27.40 | mikebledsoe | It's immature in a lot of ways you know there's there's somebody who I saw go through a transformation which was a gary banynerchuk and I don't know if he shifted I Never really heard him say hey I had a realization I'm changing the way that I'm speaking now. |
| 01:07:14.71 | Max Shank | He. |
| 01:08:05.50 | mikebledsoe | But I watched him shift over like a 5 year period of hustling rind. You know, get out of your mouth and maybe that his audience matured and he needed to shift his his message. |
| 01:07:47.10 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:08:00.99 | Max Shank | He. |
| 01:08:33.64 | mikebledsoe | But it became more of like hey let's work smarter not harder like be kind to yourself all these things Gary Vaynerchuk I mean if you go back and watch videos from ten years ago and him trying to motivate a crowd. He's telling him to like you know, buck up, you know quit being a little bitch and now he's. |
| 01:08:31.53 | Max Shank | In. |
| 01:09:09.56 | mikebledsoe | He's found a little more kindness in in his approach. So I think there's a that's something that was working for him but he also was able to to mature beyond that hopefully David Goggins experiences the same thing I mean for his sake because I mean if you got to keep that persona on. |
| 01:08:47.84 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:09:47.38 | mikebledsoe | For the rest of your life. It's just hard to. |
| 01:09:21.90 | Max Shank | But maybe that feels like good for him. Maybe that's that's exactly what he's looking for he he won't be happy unless there's a ah, big physical challenge and you know who can imagine what it's like to live that guy's life. |
| 01:10:22.44 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, who knows and there's a place for everybody right? like there's a reason that he's so prolific right now is because there are a lot of soft people that need to hear that message. They're probably sick and tired of being soft or like you know what I'm I'm fat too. |
| 01:09:57.85 | Max Shank | Is what I say. Ah. |
| 01:10:21.19 | Max Shank | Yes. |
| 01:11:00.82 | mikebledsoe | And I don't know what to do about this so you know what? like and I mean I am of the opinion that whatever, whatever the fuck gets you started go but my encouragement is it's never the whole thing get gets you started on being healthier. |
| 01:10:33.47 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:10:55.17 | Max Shank | Whatever gets you started on anything. Ah. |
| 01:11:40.46 | mikebledsoe | But you know it got fat shamed Now you're losing weight. Okay, but here's the thing is take it further yeah like take it get up take it further. You know I think people a lot of times. It's It's like. |
| 01:11:22.69 | Max Shank | You got fat shamed you got fat shamed. |
| 01:12:15.30 | mikebledsoe | The reason you're fat is not because it's not necessarily because you're not exercising enough or you didn't You're not I mean these are the the behaviors you're not exercising enough and you're and you're eating like shit but like there's an entire lifestyle that goes behind this that that needs to shift that doesn't need to be. Maniacal about food and exercise. |
| 01:12:35.29 | Max Shank | It's literally just using food as pleasure more than your activity will allow and the reason we do things like that is because we feel like there's something missing and we want to change our state salty sweet fatty cheesy bits. Will will pretty much resolve that immediately. It's not super long lasting but you know Obesity is just a drug addiction that has a really easy to see physical manifestation to it. |
| 01:14:15.22 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 01:13:47.35 | Max Shank | Right. Ah, it's It's like a lot of people are addicted to their phones but it doesn't make you £40 heavier. Oh you're you're addicted to your phone but this other person is addicted to ah like hostess cupcakes. That's we're not getting sponsored by them but just because. |
| 01:14:55.26 | mikebledsoe | Not yet max not yet. |
| 01:14:30.53 | Max Shank | Just because they're addicted to just God I Hope so sponsored by Twinkie. Ah, but yeah, if someone's addicted to hostess cupcakes instead of the telephone they get fat but it's you're still just. Pulling a pleasure lever to distract from being here and now basically right. |
| 01:15:46.26 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah I Um, definitely use food as a little bit of entertainment and but you know what I've I've figured out how to use my entertainment food. Like I can get really entertained by my food without it being just outlandishly terrible and that I think that's ah, that's a good like like. For instance I eat like ah, a keto ice cream that doesn't have It's like the cleanest one I could find mammoth It's mostly just fat. With a tiny bit of sweetener supposed to just cream and by the way I mean just eating frozen cream by itself is so good. Yeah, and then and then I put put strawberries on it I put strawberries on it and then I put. |
| 01:16:35.10 | Max Shank | Don't don't eat that bad sugar. Don't eat that bad sugar fat Only sugar is bad for you. Don't eat sugar Listen there's a killer out there. It's sugar. |
| 01:17:28.34 | mikebledsoe | Raw honey on it. Yeah yeah, and then that'll usually beat whatever fucking dessert that's sitting on the shelf somewhere or even at a restaurant like it's actually tastier. |
| 01:17:00.87 | Max Shank | Um, very fancy. |
| 01:17:20.81 | Max Shank | Well, you know that's great that you have found a strategy that that works for you. Um, for for your mouth pleasure. Although. |
| 01:18:03.82 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah I know it's not your your morning cheesecake that you like to start your day with. |
| 01:17:54.75 | Max Shank | I Do like to start with a cheesecake and mocha in the morning if the opportunity arises I'm definitely going to take it. Absolutely. |
| 01:18:46.22 | mikebledsoe | Ah, well ordering Chaos I. |
| 01:18:20.35 | Max Shank | So with the with the food is it about the mouth pleasure like the the flavor the chewing the swallowing the whole thing I mean that's what helped me like get a handle on the the food addiction I mean it's all good right. Is it that I like the flavor while I'm chewing. Is it like some deeper primal thing where I I just feel good that I'm putting stuff in my belly like there's this primal desire. That's like yeah food goes in this tube this way and then that's a good thing. |
| 01:19:52.64 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well I think I think for me it um like I'm a low appetite person. So yeah, yeah. |
| 01:19:39.73 | Max Shank | How nice someone the other day said to me he goes. Ah I've been trying he was at he was at our gym he goes I've been trying to eat more and the idea of someone who had to try to eat more. |
| 01:20:31.44 | mikebledsoe | You know? okay. |
| 01:20:17.41 | Max Shank | Was so foreign to me ah eating more is my absolute default. Ah the concept of eating less food than I need or even just the right amount that I need is insane like every time I'm eating food I Want more. I Want hometown Buffet I want all you can eat sushi I Want a gigantic porter house with mashed potatoes. |
| 01:21:34.54 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think I think what may be different between you and I is I've been obsessing over the nutrient density of my food since I was about 14 So it's um. |
| 01:21:28.17 | Max Shank | A. |
| 01:22:06.66 | mikebledsoe | Like yeah I'm in this constant search for the highest quality of what I'm what I'm eating now Super dens. It's a superfood and so the yeah. |
| 01:21:46.59 | Max Shank | That's why I just eat bullying cubes. |
| 01:22:03.33 | Max Shank | I Think we should try to make that a thing super concentrated beef essence. |
| 01:22:45.88 | mikebledsoe | Well, it's kind of like kale kale was like being sold as ah like a garnish for these buffets at Wendy's or whatever for for almost nothing and then it was listed as a super food. It was marketed properly and then ah. |
| 01:22:34.83 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:23:20.12 | mikebledsoe | The fucking price of it skyrocket. We can do the same thing for Bullyon Cubes I think is somehow you know hate. It's. |
| 01:23:01.79 | Max Shank | That would be such an exciting thing to get like all these high level athletes just snacking on bullion cubes. Everyone starts carrying around a little beef pouch salty. Yeah. |
| 01:23:43.38 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think it's a good hydration. It's more like a hydration tool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but ah yeah I think for me like I've always all I'm like this this quality freak about food and be and like I don't want it. |
| 01:23:46.70 | Max Shank | Here. |
| 01:24:21.96 | mikebledsoe | I could eat like a footlong Subway Club sandwich like I could do that like don't get me wrong I could do it but but it just it just doesn't like um, there's something about it I Just don't I don't feel satisfied in the same way and so. |
| 01:23:59.59 | Max Shank | That sounds good I like a good submarine sandwich. |
| 01:25:01.60 | mikebledsoe | When I'm eating higher quality foods like it does seem like it's harder to eat. It's like I get satisfied more quickly So I don't eat as many calories and then I'm also burning through a lot of calories in the day and then if I'm training which I am right now. Are you just the. |
| 01:25:00.83 | Max Shank | Then. |
| 01:25:40.30 | mikebledsoe | The appetite just skyrocket. But I don't I won't put down just anything So then I end up eating Keto ice cream with honey and strawberries at night. |
| 01:25:17.83 | Max Shank | A. |
| 01:25:28.93 | Max Shank | Yeah I'll I'll eat healthy food I'll just eat 3 times the volume of what I should eat. It's weird I'll be at a restaurant or something and they'll be like. Do you want any dessert and I'll look at the dessert menu. |
| 01:26:12.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think I just have a small stomach some you know. |
| 01:26:06.89 | Max Shank | And I'll be like no but I will get another entree instead when it's like roughly this I Really like savory foods so we'll be out. It'll be like sushi or something they'll be like oh you want dessert and I'm looking the desserts I'm go think I'll just have more rice and fish and avocado and that kind of thing. |
| 01:26:59.64 | mikebledsoe | A ah. |
| 01:26:42.61 | Max Shank | Um, food Huh How about that. |
| 01:27:13.82 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so going back to ordering chaos where we started. Ah I I think that what we're gonna be witnessing moving forward is a lot of people seeking order. There was I was listening ah to. |
| 01:26:55.61 | Max Shank | Order up. |
| 01:27:16.30 | Max Shank | A. |
| 01:27:52.76 | mikebledsoe | Gad sad god sad how do you say his name on Rogan the other day and it was talking about how some of the professors are starting to report that the that the new students in the college in the universities are. Really wanting a more conservative approach to things like they seem to be tired with you know all the the crazy shit around you know like they're being 72 different genders and and all that kind of stuff and so the ah. |
| 01:28:26.15 | Max Shank | All that shit is just all that shit doesn't matter. It's just about whether or not the discourse is violent or not I think. |
| 01:29:13.46 | mikebledsoe | Well I think that's part of the problem is it's it. You know it's obviously been violent people certain people aren't allowed to talk at universities because they get shouted out and basically forced out So that's chaos. That's that's people's emotional state. |
| 01:28:57.53 | Max Shank | Right? wild. |
| 01:29:51.40 | mikebledsoe | Overtaking their behavior becoming illogical and then are unable to you know have intepit discourse. So I yeah I think I mean if we look at if we look at what Ray Dalio says if we look at the fourth turning. We look at these things that these people who talk about. These cycles that are going on in the world and I think we're pretty getting pretty close to maxing out on chaos I mean I think the only thing that's more chaotic for for for the american public for for the. |
| 01:30:19.51 | Max Shank | Um, what whoa woa I don't know I'm still listening though but I don't know. |
| 01:31:05.40 | mikebledsoe | For the American Public's taste for things you think they can take more chaos. We'll see. Um, yeah I could see it going a little bit further I mean but the the only thing that's left is is now and. |
| 01:30:58.23 | Max Shank | Um I think of anarchy as chaos like anarchy is chaos that I mean that would be soak I Oh my God I think things like I don't think things are being run well. But. |
| 01:31:40.16 | mikebledsoe | No anarchy is different. So ah. |
| 01:32:01.30 | mikebledsoe | Boy here. |
| 01:31:36.77 | Max Shank | My gosh I think a lot of stuff is still running so smoothly so predictably in such an ordered fashion I mean I hope it doesn't get more chaotic and unpredictable. |
| 01:32:22.40 | mikebledsoe | Well well anarchy anarchy just means without a ruler and so it no without a ruler and so it has to do with. |
| 01:32:06.67 | Max Shank | Right? Well without without rule isn't it or just without a guy who enforces the rules then. |
| 01:32:59.34 | mikebledsoe | God. |
| 01:32:36.89 | Max Shank | No. |
| 01:33:08.42 | mikebledsoe | Ah, well if you define God by natural law like like gravity like like to me that is the the forces that have put been put in place to create physical order in the world which we don't need. Anyone to be in charge to do that right? like real laws are things that no person has to enforce and so you have natural law and then you have common law which is basically don't fuck with me and I'm not going to fuck with you right. |
| 01:33:47.53 | Max Shank | Right? But who's enforcing that is the question. That's what I'm saying So it's ah you know I think there would be a lot more people stealing each other shit if they didn't think there was some like repercussion. |
| 01:34:22.64 | mikebledsoe | Well people ultimately have to enforce it for themselves. Yeah. |
| 01:34:43.68 | mikebledsoe | Her maybe maybe well here here's wait. There is a reapercussion so here's an example San Francisco has riots how long do they last Minneapolis long fucking time. You know how long they lasted in Miami. |
| 01:34:25.51 | Max Shank | That the hired guns could lay in a long time. Yeah, not as long. |
| 01:35:20.78 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, about 36 hours and then it everyone went back to order and it's not because they put more police force out. It's because the the ah the police came out and said hey if you own a store on this street. You might want to come out with your gun. They basically encourage people to protect their own property because that's a state in which they honor property rights right? and then right and then but. |
| 01:35:43.30 | Max Shank | Which are the only reason we have all these rules in the None place. |
| 01:36:24.58 | mikebledsoe | But property rights aren't necessarily I don't think they necessarily have to be enforced by an outside entity whereas in California you have government officials that are impeding property rights so in 1 state you've got the encouragement of protecting your own property like we're not even going to do it. You do it. |
| 01:36:19.49 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:36:32.53 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:37:03.90 | mikebledsoe | And then in San Francisco they're saying whatever you do don't protect your own property or else we're gonna come after you, you know you can't have a gun if you shoot somebody on your property. We're gonna you're gonna be in trouble. So some people would say that San Francisco has got way more order or. |
| 01:36:46.10 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:37:42.64 | mikebledsoe | Whereas Florida seems a little more anarchist right? where they're encouraging when I think about anarchy it brings it down to there is a ruler and each person has to be their own ruler in which case. So we look at Miami and people would say oh we're just gonna let people kill each other but the the amount of damage that was done and the amount of deaths were really small because what happened was people came out with their guns. A couple writers got shot and killed and then everyone goes. Oh you can't do that or else you might get shot and killed and so they just don't do it anymore. So I think this is a good example of of the order being placed by. You know, an authoritative government is shown to be ineffective. So I think. |
| 01:38:32.51 | Max Shank | Um, well yeah. |
| 01:39:31.30 | mikebledsoe | Majority of order that's produced people generally want to be kind to each other people generally want to get along in all the research people avoid conflict. They don't They don't do these things they enter into conflict when they think they can be faceless and nameless and they're wearing a mask and and running through the streets. |
| 01:39:24.49 | Max Shank | Most people. |
| 01:39:38.77 | Max Shank | A. |
| 01:40:09.94 | mikebledsoe | With a thousand other people and they can blend in now they become that's chaos. That's that's that's the mob but that's not anarchy. That's ah anarchy would be everyone. There would be consequences. You're held liable for your personal stuff. |
| 01:39:48.30 | Max Shank | Um, a mob. |
| 01:40:44.12 | mikebledsoe | Just because everybody was doing It doesn't mean that you are um that it's okay to do it So There's a level of individual responsibility that I see that happens with anarchy and I think that this I think that anything that's not anarchy is actually a. It's an illusion because if we if we go up so we. |
| 01:40:58.49 | Max Shank | Well hold up every society is an illusion based on a unify unifying set of beliefs whether it's the tree spirit or an eye for an eye code of hamurabi or hey that guy with the big stick is in charge because he can beat up everyone else. |
| 01:41:50.46 | mikebledsoe | It's just it's a story. |
| 01:42:02.26 | mikebledsoe | Well well the big, the big stick guy is usually what people think about anything about anarchy is like it's like oh yeah, it's a power game right? It's like if everyone's just running around and. |
| 01:41:38.50 | Max Shank | Right? And we just do what he says. That's all. |
| 01:41:56.53 | Max Shank | Well it it is extra Well if there's no recourse if someone takes your stuff except for your own then everyone is going to have to arm themselves significantly more now I do think that would make a community. |
| 01:43:01.74 | mikebledsoe | I Think it would be a much more peaceful community as well. |
| 01:42:33.81 | Max Shank | Much much stronger been to Oklahoma I agree completely. Um, people would respect boundaries a little more I believe and if you think that you may get shot. You're less likely to go try to Rob someone unless it's really really desperate. |
| 01:43:32.78 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 01:43:12.31 | Max Shank | And even then you're more likely to go ask? What can you do you can beg borrow or steal if someone has something you want. You know you can work you can beg or you can take um so I think it has a lot to do with. |
| 01:43:52.82 | mikebledsoe | Now. |
| 01:44:05.90 | mikebledsoe | Or. |
| 01:43:51.67 | Max Shank | Fact that we can get our needs met relatively smoothly and I think if you had let's say a dis because I'm not a fan of how taxpayer dollars are managed at all because that's all government is it's all all of our pooled resources put to work by a few. Ah. Clever folks. But I think if you were to dissolve that whole system. Ah it would be a really shaky turbulent. Ah very chaotic adjustment period because the whole concept of. dollars and cents and retirements and everything would just completely collapse and all of these agreements based on that old system would also collapse so all of your existing contracts would basically be like I'm gonna just not. |
| 01:46:08.66 | mikebledsoe | Well, a lot of a lot of these structures are are corporate in nature and so these agreements and so any agreements you have with government I mean it's a corporate. It's an agreement between a corporation and an individual which is technically like unlawful. |
| 01:45:43.21 | Max Shank | Do that anymore. |
| 01:46:13.47 | Max Shank | Right? But those ah but those agreements are basically just for if you have to go to a court. |
| 01:46:46.74 | mikebledsoe | In a way. But. |
| 01:46:56.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah there I got a I got a show coming out with Jesse Elder where he covers the whole going to court thing but the which I think will be interesting but I want I want to take this back to the the idea that that do we live. My argument is we already live in anarchy right? And so the I was thinking about this the other day is so there's a war between well I'm about to explain it. So everyone everyone thinks that there's a rule of law right? like the United States is like it's it's not ruled by men. It's ruled by law. |
| 01:47:21.70 | Max Shank | Why do we live in anarchy. Okay. |
| 01:47:46.37 | Max Shank | Sometimes. |
| 01:48:14.78 | mikebledsoe | And so that's that was that's kind of the concept of the United States it's not necessarily how it's resulted, but that's the concept was to to keep us out of trouble. But if we get outside of the United States and we go global. We have global anarchy right? the. |
| 01:47:57.31 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:48:53.24 | mikebledsoe | There is no. There is no authority that makes the countries behave So some of these. |
| 01:48:32.10 | Max Shank | Maybe oligarchy maybe more like an oligarchy than total anarchy like I think there's a lot of power centers and unions and allegiances that guide the flow of the world. |
| 01:49:22.52 | mikebledsoe | There are there are the um that that are a lot less oligarchies. Well depends on the oligarch like what system you're using can be less violent. You mean you could say that like Elon Musk is probably None of the most powerful people on the planet. Not probably He's more powerful than most countries. Ah and ah, but all the interaction with him and his stuff is is voluntary. So it's it's a less. He may be he may be in charge of people's minds in a way because he's deciding you know what? they. |
| 01:49:54.17 | Max Shank | Which is amazing. Ah, right. |
| 01:50:38.78 | mikebledsoe | They may be seeing because he controls that way, but it's not.. It's not overtly coercive or or violent. Um, but if we if we extrapolate out and we go what keeps these nations like what supersedes the nation you know and some people might say Nato UN. Ah, have all these different organizations where these countries send representatives and they jerk each other off for a few days and then go back. Ah these that the truth is is the only thing that keeps anyone from fucking with anybody else is the possibility of total destruction. There's an entire global strategy going on by each country On. You have a few powers that are trying to dominate. But there's all these allies that are created and rules and and and they're generating all this stuff but generally like if you I think people. People are under this false premise of there is law and order that's produced by human beings. But it's completely inaccurate because if we keep going to a larger Magnitude. We start seeing that there's nothing other than brute force and power that is. That is in charge and so in which case I say that that's truly just Anarchy. We already exist under it. But the problem is is we suffer under a ah like ah this illusion because people don't ah. Because they put their trust in the illusion. They never take personal responsibility. They never become their own ruler. They never make their own decisions. They never learn to protect themselves feed themselves provide for themselves and so they're putting the trust in something illusory that can change at a moment's notice. And put them out in the cold. |
| 01:54:07.63 | Max Shank | Um, yeah I I tend to think that all ah Authority matters are resolved that way with the threat of total destruction on a micro level and on a macro level. You know the. |
| 01:55:06.22 | mikebledsoe | M. |
| 01:54:45.33 | Max Shank | Way that individuals are ruled the way that countries are ruled the way that countries rule over each other.. It's always the threat of total destruction and you know self-preservation is a very powerful instinct and I think that's probably what drives ah countries more than anything. Is the self-preservation Instinct of the rulers. |
| 01:55:59.64 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, gotta be I mean I think that's just everybody. |
| 01:55:39.27 | Max Shank | Keep the power get a little bit more keep the power get a little bit more because it never ends it very rarely ends well like the dictator doesn't like ride off into the sunset and be like hey guys I had fun oppressing the shit out of you. Thank you for letting me just go on. |
| 01:56:36.86 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well when was the last time there was a dictator that like died of natural causes and everybody all the your country. The country was like oh yeah, ah. |
| 01:56:14.47 | Max Shank | Down the dusty road dude North Korea North Korea one of my favorite front. None of my favorite stories ever I another plug for dictators playbook. Very good series. The story of ah Kim il-sung. And then ah Kim Jong -il and now kim jong un none generation dictatorship pretty good for the modern era he is repressing the shit out of those people's ability to see information and see what other life is like he's smeared the hell out of the fat americans it's incredible. |
| 01:57:29.64 | mikebledsoe | Now. Yeah. |
| 01:58:00.28 | mikebledsoe | I need to I need to watch this. It sounds. |
| 01:57:33.19 | Max Shank | Ah, anyway, Kim il-sung dot died of natural causes. Kim Jong -il also died of natural causes. Kim Jong un maybe eating himself to death. But that's still a natural cause basically like it's incredible. |
| 01:58:25.98 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well what I'm saying yeah but people aren't happy what I'm saying is like has anyone ah as a dictator ever like died and then everyone's like oh genuinely sad. |
| 01:58:17.75 | Max Shank | There is way less obesity in North Korea than the United States that's a fact that's a fact. |
| 01:58:57.48 | mikebledsoe | Did you did you listen to that? Ah interview Rogan did with um that North Korean woman who escaped at fucking crazy. Totally worth listening to. |
| 01:58:44.51 | Max Shank | Um, yeah I did it was wild. Loved it. Dude That's the history of the world is like awful awful stuff like that look at all the like torture shame the the um juxtaposition of. Art and war as ah, vessels for this oscillation between order and chaos is Incredible. We're making these beautiful pieces of art. We're you know, putting together quilts and nice things for people and medicines and then we have like these. Ah. Mechanical suppositories that expand up your anus as torture and you just have these like weird is such ah, an insane level of destruction and violent and then creation and cooperation and you know optimism. I Mean human beings are insane and then a few of them get really insane and are like I will lead these people and then and then I here's what I think happens I don't think this is going to be a very popular take but I think ah. Most of the most of the guys who went and did these insane things. It was really like the whispers of a lady that was driving him. You know what? I mean I think we we cannot. We cannot Blame. Ah. |
| 02:02:04.24 | mikebledsoe | Oh yeah. |
| 02:01:53.57 | Max Shank | White We We can't make white men the whipping boy of all the evil shit. That's ever been Done. You know ladies men of all colors of all creeds have oppressed people I'm sure that there were Queens who would tease their king about the size of his kingdom. And just nag nag nag him until he conquered the neighbors be like you call this a kingdom This is the tiniest Kingdom. That's what I think yeah. |
| 02:03:07.16 | mikebledsoe | I think that was like Alexander the great alexander the great. Yeah and what's her name or is it Ashley and I got this conversation the other day which was we we take we take like things that are really hot. Like unstable topics in society and then we debate them in the car and because she grew up in the bay where there's a very she grew up in a very left leaning view. So there's a lot of opportunity for me to ask her questions just had a curiosity is like okay how is. |
| 02:03:38.67 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 02:04:22.20 | mikebledsoe | Okay, this is how I understand this situation. What's the okay, what's going on over there and she tells me I'm like okay have are those people have they considered this so no, okay, cool and so it's like it ends up in a interesting conversation. So one was um, we were listening to a show. They're talking about. Um you know, ah, ah, equity like equity amongst men and women for pay right? who you know men men generally get paid more money than women and so the feminist movement has been. Incredibly focused on money in in regard to things not being fair and so and so that was my that was my so we got in this conversation. so so yeah yeah so Ashley's like you know it's unfair and. |
| 02:05:19.71 | Max Shank | They already spend all the money. There are so many reasons for there are so many reasons for this I mean. Okay. |
| 02:06:16.72 | mikebledsoe | And I was like I was like well have we talked about all the contributing factors to why it might be that way and then the number one? Well the None thing that I came up with not came up with but like the None stat that we looked at was ah okay. So men make how much more money on average and women for the same type of work. Okay, well, who spends the money who who spends more money. It's like well the women spend 70% of all the money on. |
| 02:06:44.45 | Max Shank | But there there are like 10 different reasons that things usually are this way if it was so clear cut as like the Twitter sized argument would have you believe then every smart businessman would just hire women I would save. |
| 02:07:45.74 | mikebledsoe | Totally. |
| 02:07:24.37 | Max Shank | I would save 25% on my ah payroll and I would be because if it's the same job for ah 25% less money. You would be a fool not to do it. You would have just factories. You would only have women employees. It would only be women working ah like why wouldn't you why wouldn't you no no, it's it's stupid. It's just another distraction. We have so much more in common. |
| 02:08:32.48 | mikebledsoe | That's that's a really good point or because of discrimination people are are misogynist What it's It's ah it's a. Well the thing the thing is is people people will they look at the result and then they they that that's the explanation. Oh. There's not this so it must be.. It must be that that person that men are generally bad at you know that are generally misogynistic. |
| 02:08:37.10 | Max Shank | Ah, then we have different. |
| 02:09:41.72 | mikebledsoe | So There's this like the proof for a lot of people. The proof is in the the lack of equity versus getting into all the little things that might contribute to that and you make a really good point because you know what? if if I could get away with that I do the same thing and. And then you could like claim to be nobles like oh I I Only hire women and and in the background you know you, you're making more money That's not necessarily I don't see in the conversations I yeah. |
| 02:09:53.91 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 02:10:09.43 | Max Shank | It's just like a different type of sexism I mean I don't think I think more than people being like pro-man or pro lady or anti-man or anti-lady people are just selfish understandably. So. You're the only None living your experience. You're the only one responsible for it if you can get a few extra points of street cred for talking shit. Why wouldn't you I mean we talked about how effective lying is talking shit is so effective I mean do you think Tom Sawyer painted the fence. No. Sweet talked the other kid and said hey wouldn't you like to paint this fence I will trade you the opportunity of painting this fence for that shiny red Apple you got and so he's there eating the Apple while this guy is so happy that he now has the opportunity to build a fence so people are just. Selfish and they realize that they can talk to get attention and energy and that kind of thing instead of work and there are so many I mean my god we could talk all day about this like alleged discrimination between men and women. But um. This is a contest that nobody wins there's no way to win this discussion because it's like hey did you know that men kill themselves 4 times more than women they're like no I didn't know that is like well can you just like fucking eat the quarter and like. Not worry I mean we're dying 4 times as much at our own hand like is it really? So amazing. Yeah. |
| 02:13:43.26 | mikebledsoe | Well 98% of workplace deaths are men as well like I it's like is what. |
| 02:13:27.69 | Max Shank | But but that's that's the whole point is like people just do what they want to do that's all and quite frankly, you know if you're a lady you can just get really hot and nice. But if you're a fella I mean I guess you could do that too like you could be a cabana boy. Type of ah life strategy I've considered it I've done the entrepreneurship thing for a while but I've also considered what if I put the same amount of dedication to being like a really like goodlooking Kabana boy right? and just like teach yoga classes by the pool of some like rich lady. And my whole responsibility is just like oh a little more suntann for you I'll whip up a little ah sandwich for you there like that's totally a strategy and maybe I would earn more doing that than what I'm currently doing so. It's fine, but it's just that usually the way that a guy shows. |
| 02:15:33.80 | mikebledsoe | Maybe maybe. |
| 02:15:21.39 | Max Shank | Ah, dominance in the hierarchy is by making lots of money That's usually how it is and then if you like get the gender roles confused sometimes you have people chasing things that don't even feel good to them. They just do it because they think they're supposed to and that's. |
| 02:15:54.00 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, yeah. |
| 02:16:21.18 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 02:15:59.83 | Max Shank | I think that is ah actually really scary spent a lot of energy getting something that you didn't even want in the None place. |
| 02:16:31.36 | mikebledsoe | You know. Yeah Jordan Peterson was talking about a ah ah a concept that women are just generally more intelligent than men they they are generally have more opportunities at. Through childhood and adolescence and because guys tend to only be really good at None thing and then they throw themselves completely into it and engineering might be a really good example of this is men are were sport men men. |
| 02:17:15.75 | Max Shank | Or sport. |
| 02:17:54.79 | mikebledsoe | We'll use engineers for as an example, why do engineers get paid more than women. Well most engineers didn't do. |
| 02:17:32.81 | Max Shank | Well not, they don't necessarily. It's just engineering people get paid more than nursing people typically. |
| 02:18:13.58 | mikebledsoe | Well well why are there more male engineers than female engineers This was this was this was the question being talked about and now I'm gonna give it to you but but the the the thing that he was proposing is that. |
| 02:18:00.59 | Max Shank | Are you looking for an answer. Are you going to give it to me. Okay I have ideas. |
| 02:18:51.76 | mikebledsoe | Women have more opportunities through their youth because they're generally more intelligent and don't dedicate themselves wholly to None subject whereas men tend to be a little less intelligent and in a broad and a broad amount of subjects whereas. And it has less to do with like level of intelligence versus being able to be intelligent at a lot of things versus just None thing so men at for a lot of engineers. They they sucked at english history. All the stuff that wasn't mathematics. But then there's a lot of women who were pretty good at mathematics. But they were also really good at english and. History and all these other subjects so there wasn't this this force of focus in order to be become valuable. So I think that between between you know, if you look at just math mathematicians out in the world like the highest levels are men but. |
| 02:19:57.17 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 02:20:47.10 | mikebledsoe | Women are generally if you were to look at the averages. The average woman is better at it than the average man but men tend to to live more at the extremes when it comes to these things and so that person's more likely to get to become a high paid engineer than the average woman and so. |
| 02:20:34.29 | Max Shank | I see ah. |
| 02:20:48.79 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 02:21:26.68 | mikebledsoe | Um, because women have the argument he was making is because women have more opportunities than men they actually may not get completely focused into a ah vocation. That's gonna pay really really well and the other thing is to the point you were making earlier is. Men are generally generally ah judged on their their finances and their financial success and women are generally ah their status comes from being beautiful and so if you're a woman and and. |
| 02:22:05.31 | Max Shank | Or the or the niceness of the Shark cuttery board that they can lay out. |
| 02:22:45.48 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah for that that would be the case for me my girlfriend won me over with sharuery boards. |
| 02:22:24.29 | Max Shank | Like for a like party planning like that's ah that's a skill that among the other ladies I don't think I'm being crazy here. That's a skill where everyone else would be like man look at that meat and cheese plate. There are dried apricots on there that looks that looks amazing right. |
| 02:23:20.64 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, but but if you're a woman and you have many different interests and you don't dedicate yourself into a single field and then in the background. There's also this the majority of your focuses on status that involves beauty as well. So you have this social. |
| 02:23:26.97 | Max Shank | Oh right. |
| 02:23:58.20 | mikebledsoe | Social pressure being beautiful and then you also have a lot of opportunities academically and then you got guys are like you know I just got to get good at 1 thing and they just throw themselves at it and so that that's 1 explanation of like why there might be some discrepancy. |
| 02:23:51.85 | Max Shank | I Think it's I think it's even simpler I think that men and women generally get pushed a certain direction and guys who might naturally be more creative. Get funneled into something that is more utilitarian and women who might be more math and science and technology oriented might get diverted off toward like barbies and art and that kind of thing. Because I think that's just the the natural momentum of our culture is that girls do girly things and guys do manly things and so it's just when there's an intersection of your preference. However, that was derived and your ability. |
| 02:26:18.54 | mikebledsoe | I Mean that's generally true. |
| 02:25:55.17 | Max Shank | Yeah, and that's also why ah you know nurses are typically women and they're a little bit more nurturing and interestingly enough I think it's a really interesting. It's an interesting example because I think that is. Ah, much more difficult skill to replicate with technology this idea that you'll be Able. You'll be able to diagnose with a supercomputer with I would imagine tremendous accuracy but the. |
| 02:27:10.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, not possible. |
| 02:27:05.50 | Max Shank | The bedside care and the nursing and that sort of thing seems really hard to replicate with ah with tech I think Ais are gonna doctor it up and the nurses there's just gonna be a bunch of ladies doing a great job. Um, you know. |
| 02:27:46.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, the ai is going to do that anytime soon. |
| 02:28:10.94 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well there, there's um, well that. |
| 02:27:43.61 | Max Shank | Talking and listening chatting doing skills. It's a high so that's that's and some things just don't get rewarded very well like nursing holy fuck. Okay, that's the perfect example I think it seems like None of the hardest jobs around you're in a pretty scary place all the time. Working pretty tough hours with difficult people quite frankly, right? and and you're like getting okay money. It's like okay but talk about difficult. |
| 02:28:57.52 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 02:29:08.40 | mikebledsoe | Now Now incredibly yeah I wouldn't want to do it. It sounds terrible. |
| 02:28:59.53 | Max Shank | I Don't even like being in hospitals. It's like my one of my least favorite places. |
| 02:29:38.28 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, let's wrap this bad boy up where we. |
| 02:29:17.65 | Max Shank | Okay, so today's show was called chaos we tried to bring order to it but we just couldn't figure out a way to put it in there. Ah ah well they define each other. |
| 02:30:09.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, we didn't really talk about order much. |
| 02:29:57.50 | Max Shank | Right? We talked a lot about the hierarchies in society I think that order can bring a lot of peace to your life. Um, so maybe the the takeaway I would wrap up with is. Dose yourself with some chaos do some? Ah do some tough conversations with someone have like a heated debate and do some roughhousing and playing that is introducing chaos in ah in a safe environment and then you know bring. Bring order into your life by trying to automate as many things as you can to make your life easier. So maybe there's those None things what I would say keep it practical. |
| 02:31:54.12 | mikebledsoe | Know well sudden. Yeah, but both are necessary. Nothing to be Judged. You know having order and not good or bad chaos. Not good or bad. Both are necessary for the development of culture. It's necessary for the development of human beings we go through these phases. And I find that it's it brings a lot more peace when you're in when you can acknowledge what phase you're in and go oh it's a little chaotic if I want things to be different and you know what's the order I want to create and just being being aware of these things can help you move through things a lot more. Smoothly max where can they find you. |
| 02:32:55.55 | Max Shank | http://maxshank.com or at max shank. |
| 02:33:27.90 | mikebledsoe | Check me out Instagram at Mike Underscore Bletso and you can check out things at the http://bletsoshow.com I also got a summit for the coaches coming up in June if you want to check that out. Go to shop dot destrongcoach dot com. But y'all loving next. |
| 02:33:42.73 | Max Shank | Bye later. |
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He’s learned a lot about both along the way, and in this episode, he shares his best insights into how you can do both for yourself
| 00:00.00 | Max Shank | Welcome back to Monday mornings with max and Mike Today we're going to talk about the easiest way to improve your life and that is your environment your environment includes people. Your environment includes the physical space physical objects. The actual climate or weather and not only can you perfectly adapt to the environment you're in but actually 1 of the easiest ways to change is just to change your environment and that's one of the reasons that joining a community of. Healthy fit people is by far the easiest way to get healthy and fit yourself because I believe in the 5 monkey rule which is that you become most like the 5 people that you spend the most time with so let's talk about. Environment how to adapt to it. How others have adapted to it in the past and how you can also change it completely which is a very amazing talent. Mike thanks for joining me again. |
| 01:07.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, this is this is a fun topic topic because um I was at a talk couple weeks ago at an event and this guy was talking about the 3 things that that drive change and ah, you're. Changing your environment and the people you're around your community is by far the least stressful and the easiest to comebine and can have the you know, easiest long-term effects. The other two is people make change when the first one is when people make change when something. Horrible Happens. There's something traumatic that happens or like they they had a blind spot and then all something you know someone goes into the doctor and they got holy shit you got diabetes or you got cancer. It's like oh fuck and then you realize that your your you know your life is finite and oh I had better make a change. Ah, that one that finding change and creating change from that place. Not a lot of fun. Um, that one's yeah pain pain and suffering. Um and then the other one being the other one you could do is strategic. |
| 02:09.57 | Max Shank | Um, so that's like pain motivation the motivation of pain hunger pain desire Very synonymous. |
| 02:22.51 | mikebledsoe | You know someone might go hire a coach and then we create a strategy for maybe do some mindset training or whatever it is on how to get you to change your behavior or your lifestyle just by creating a strategy That's also very difficult. It takes some willpower which we'll say for later time. |
| 02:40.85 | Max Shank | Well, it takes proportional desire to the activity that they're willing to undertake I think having a more tactical approach that may include hiring a coach and coming up with a more concrete plan is a great way to go about it. Use your rational mind. |
| 02:41.78 | mikebledsoe | But. |
| 03:00.41 | Max Shank | I would say that the desire comes from kind of the same place. You feel a lack of health or a lack of community or a lack of confidence or a lack of something and there's some feeling there that makes you go You know what? Not only do I want more but I think it's possible that I could. |
| 03:19.18 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and so and changing your environment and your community. It's by far the easiest that's that's 1 reason that I run my coaching business the way I do and I suggest other coaches do the same which is make them community oriented have people going through the process together. |
| 03:20.23 | Max Shank | Get more. |
| 03:38.23 | mikebledsoe | Because it does normalize things. You know if you're hanging out with a bunch of people who are running triathlons. That's gonna become a normal thing for you to do if you're playing with hanging out with a bunch of tennis players you be playing tennis if you hang out with a bunch of musicians. You're probably gonna pick up an instrument and. It's going to be almost automatic in a lot of ways. So It's going to be easy. Super super easy. |
| 04:01.14 | Max Shank | It will be easy I Think that's an important point that I would like to I'd like to stop at the definition station real quick about the word easy because in. |
| 04:14.12 | mikebledsoe | But here we go again. |
| 04:21.14 | Max Shank | In practice. Ah easy is something that you that you want to do easy is something that doesn't require a lot of time perhaps but I think difficult and easy are more defined by whether you want to do it or not. I think people find it very easy to do something. They love pretty much all day long so they would be willing to spend a hundred times more effort because it doesn't feel like they have to force themselves to do it because the activity itself is intrinsically enjoyable. And if you join a community that is playful with their goal achieving like there's a lot of playfulness in some entrepreneurs and that is ah maybe a defining characteristic of the ones who do much much better is it's a fun exciting game. That they want to play not not just because they want to purchase a boat in the future but because that game is exciting to them so there's that intrinsic joy in the activity itself that makes something easy. I think I think that's what makes it easy is if you want to do it. |
| 05:34.90 | mikebledsoe | Absolutely absolutely yeah I think they as humans we tend to adopt the the desires of others when we're in a group or we choose the group based on our desires or at least we can I don't think that's what happens when we're young and growing up and we're. Pretty much forced to hang out with whoever's in our you know whoever our parents decide to put in our geographical you know sphere. But um, you know some of the some of the easiest changes I've ever made was when I moved locations. Um I. |
| 05:59.94 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 06:12.61 | mikebledsoe | You know there's so many benefits. Yeah I tell people all the time is if you're gonna if you if you're gonna be moving make a list if you're gonna move. Especially if you're moving to whole new New city. But even if you're moving to a new house or apartment or whatever it is. That's when. |
| 06:13.39 | Max Shank | It's a big shakeup. It's a big shakeup. |
| 06:29.60 | mikebledsoe | You can introduce new habits most easily because everything in your life is changing so I'll use up. The big thing is if you're moving to a new city. You're likely gonna be hanging out with a whole new social circle and ah, which means that you could either if you if you're not. Intentional about it. You probably end up hanging out with a lot of the same type of people you were hanging out with and you're gonna end up recreating. You know a similar lifestyle of wherever you were so that saying of no matter where you go or wherever you go, you will be there and so what i. What I've done intentionally is when I've landed it in a new town I know that those people they're not going to be judging me on my history because they don't even know it anyone? um anyone we ever interact with is seeing us for for the entirety of. The time we've known each other like when I when I see you max you know I think what we met probably six seven years ago maybe six years ago I'm thinking um I'm basically thinking of max over that entire period of time and probably the things that I was introduced to you initially are gonna stand out. |
| 07:32.97 | Max Shank | And. |
| 07:44.50 | mikebledsoe | The most and so as you can imagine. Yeah, if you if you live if you live with your you know with your family or near your family. Your family are they're gonna treat you like your a little kid because they knew you as a little kid and so that's. |
| 07:44.96 | Max Shank | Like a first impression. |
| 07:57.80 | Max Shank | And you'll probably act out that role just the same as you have always been acting out that role. |
| 08:01.92 | mikebledsoe | Totally totally. So every time I've moved I've had the opportunity to upgrade my identity I can I can then decide I'm gonna be someone who you know the person the next iteration of myself that I want to be and I can. |
| 08:10.77 | Max Shank | The. |
| 08:20.80 | mikebledsoe | Consciously choose to present myself to new people in that way and I can be careful about the people I surround myself with who are the people I surround myself with now and it's not same people same type of person that I surround myself with before now. It's not. Dramatically drastic changes. But there are some small changes I've noticed as I've gotten older I've I've shrunk The friend circle quite a bit and gotten more selective because I see you know how influenced how influenced I am by the people. |
| 08:39.53 | Max Shank | Further. |
| 08:57.19 | mikebledsoe | I surround myself with so if you want to make a change and you want to you know, moving to a new city that I don't think there's ah, a quicker faster easier way to do it Although that may sound like a big fucking deal to somebody because it is but I think that. |
| 09:07.57 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 09:15.44 | mikebledsoe | Moving to a new city is you know, logistically maybe difficult but from a making change perspective so much easier. |
| 09:22.61 | Max Shank | Yeah, it definitely will shake things up in a big way. Ah, one of the reasons I like talking to new people is exactly what you were talking about I Love talking to new people because I don't know what I'm going to say. And I try not to be too attached to the way I think about things So I I try to really take a conversation as it comes and what I find really interesting is sometimes I will surprise myself with what I say. To a person that I've never interacted with before and it's it's because it's just a different um Interaction. You know this person has no clue who I am I don't have any clue who they are and I'm only bringing what I think right now I'm not necessarily bringing what I thought. Last year. So I'm excited to see like oh this is a really different way that I'm answering this question than the way I used to answer this Question. So I think every time you meet somebody new at least in my case, it feels. It feels different because I'm in such a state of. |
| 10:26.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, no. |
| 10:38.30 | Max Shank | Ah, flux. |
| 10:39.13 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I agree with that. Yeah different people bring different parts of us out and I you know we're talking about the community. The people you surround yourself with but there's a lot of other environmental factors aside from the people we're surrounded by that impact. How we live our lives. Um. |
| 10:57.61 | Max Shank | Well hold hold on before we go on though. Let's let's hone in on the the people thing because I think you want to understand the difference between thinking there are like good and bad people versus there are complementary people. And there are ah mutually destructive pairings so there are like complementary pairings and there are mutually destructive pairings but I try not to think of it like oh this person is better or I'm better and they're worse I mean you could make that argument certainly that some people are better and worse. |
| 11:35.78 | mikebledsoe | I Think most will do. |
| 11:35.82 | Max Shank | And many people do. But I think of it more like yeah and ah, of course we don't really know what their experience was like so it's such a slippery slope because then you got to like what think their parents were bad or their parents' parents were bad. It's like where does the blame. Really end with the goodness and badness of our Fellows. So I Just think about the fact that there is a different interaction happening. You know, like musical notes you get this note and then this other note you play them together and you get. Ah. A certain frequency and then you meet someone slightly different and the whole interaction is completely Different. So I think the way people interact with each other ah really sets the tone for relationships in a. |
| 12:14.43 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 12:28.21 | Max Shank | In a monumental way so you can be ah playful in Conversation. You can be playful in movement and sport or you know I'm not sure what the opposite of playful is maybe like stiff or like. Hateful Almost I'm not sure I'm not sure what would the opposite of playful would be ah but you know what I'm saying like the interactions with other people are so big in how you evaluate and interpret your life that if they're if they're not playful if they're not loving then. |
| 12:50.57 | mikebledsoe | I'm trying to think of it. Now. |
| 13:07.75 | Max Shank | Ah, you you it. It can be a real problem and sometimes carving it out is really uncomfortable thought for people but it's not like the other person's bad and I'm good. It's just like this this pairing doesn't work together. |
| 13:15.87 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 13:22.67 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and and those pairings may not work. They may work together for a period of time and then they don't and it doesn't mean Yeah, ah I've definitely experienced that. Um, that with my my ex-wife even that was there was a period of time where that worked great and then there was a period of time. It stopped working. |
| 13:28.20 | Max Shank | Oh yeah, a lot of stuff works for a while. Um I mean if we're talking about. Love Yeah, if we're talking about love. Ah, if we're talking about love and romance I mean my lord. |
| 13:42.16 | mikebledsoe | And it served both of us to to walk away. Yeah, what are the antonyms for be sad. |
| 13:47.63 | Max Shank | Could be sad. |
| 13:54.00 | Max Shank | Be sad and work Those are good opposites so that's. |
| 13:55.89 | mikebledsoe | Be sad and work that makes sense. |
| 14:03.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 14:06.40 | Max Shank | That's big I think drawing clear boundaries about what kind of interactions you are going to participate in sometimes it is better to just like take your ball and go home play with yourself. |
| 14:14.52 | mikebledsoe | I like to I like to extrapolate on these types of things and that you know as above so below you know things that are happening at the smallest level are also happening at the largest level and when I look at say a relationship between 2 people. We can ah extrapolate that out to interactions between different cultures. We could say you know 2 different countries. You know you got a culture over here and that has certain values and you have a country over here. It has certain values and these countries may get along really well these two groups of people. |
| 14:37.49 | Max Shank | Um, so it. |
| 14:51.70 | mikebledsoe | Me say countries because I think the whole idea is going away but the yeah these two groups of people are either getting along or they have a lot of conflict and I really I think about this a lot and then also what. |
| 14:53.78 | Max Shank | At groups. |
| 15:08.32 | mikebledsoe | But I like about looking at culture more and large groups of people was I think it's ah easier to see what has created the way that they are as ah as a culture. So I really like to look at the Eu. The european union is a really good example of this and so. What you have ah is you have a lot of the countries in the north and you have a lot of countries in the south that have all they all said you know what we're gonna try to get along. You know we we haven't tried to kill each other in like you know a few decades. So maybe we should you know. All fall under the same currency and you know give each other a pass on the passport thing and all the things that happens with the european union but what happened in the last decade yeah I think was that the the euro was probably what a decade maybe 2 decades old I forget how long it's been around. |
| 15:49.80 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 16:07.86 | mikebledsoe | I Think it's been around like 20 maybe a little more than 20 years at this point nonetheless. Um, they basically took all these countries and they put them on the same currency and so some countries whose value of their currency was low automatically got propped up really quick. And in some countries whose value is really high got brought down really quick and what you ended up with was it tan be yeah oh yeah, yeah I thought you're talking about the discrepancy but the yeah. |
| 16:28.61 | Max Shank | Right? It's like a marriage it I mean it's like a union you know, know that that's what I'm saying that too I mean in a. Ah marriage or in a business partnership or a union of countries or big groups. Um, you know there's there's give and take and yeah. |
| 16:54.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so so I mean what? what ended ones up ends up happening this this really is a interesting study for me and what ends up happening is you have places like Portugal greece who especially Greece I think from what I understand. They went from being like ah you know, not that wealthy of a country to hopping on the euro and then all of a sudden people didn't have to work much anymore because they were instantly more wealthy and so there was a little less work that had to be done which in Greece there. |
| 17:22.13 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 17:30.80 | mikebledsoe | They're they're not. They don't work as hard as say the Germans So I think we can look at that's exact. That's what that's what yeah, that's what I'm getting at yeah is when you look at the northern countries in the European Union These countries are very good at planning. |
| 17:34.17 | Max Shank | Um, pretty different climate also interesting to think about? yeah. |
| 17:48.93 | mikebledsoe | They're very good at saving. Um and they're there's they're way more strategic in a lot of ways whereas when you look at the southern countries you look at italy you've got portugal. You've got greece all these countries life is good. 24 7 3 65 the necessity to think ahead is just so much lower like why would you? you have you have generations of people that didn't really have to think ahead more than a day or 2 and then yeah. |
| 18:16.68 | Max Shank | It's in. |
| 18:20.62 | Max Shank | Yeah, let's go fit. It's fine. Let's go fishing. We'll be all right? It's fine. Let's go fishing. |
| 18:24.91 | mikebledsoe | And exactly and then you have the swedes who if they don't you know it's It's winter is coming. Yeah, it's it's June and they're doing everything they can do to you know, prepare for something that's months and months away. |
| 18:31.48 | Max Shank | Winter is coming. |
| 18:41.56 | Max Shank | Well and you get the opposite side of the spectrum too when you go to the middle of the freaking desert where it circles back to now it's a different type of harshness of climate and you need a different set of wisdom that is still ah forward thinking. |
| 18:51.26 | mikebledsoe | In here. |
| 18:58.83 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, collecting water. |
| 19:01.50 | Max Shank | And I think it's so yeah, it's so fascinating to look at like the Island Lifestyle because that's what we think of when we think of chill vibes. We think of a beach with palm trees and people. |
| 19:17.51 | mikebledsoe | This shit happens near the equator. |
| 19:18.47 | Max Shank | Taking it easy that that but not in the middle of the desert very severe there. It's just where there's like a union of sunny weather and water and food and it doesn't require a lot of. |
| 19:25.55 | mikebledsoe | You're right. |
| 19:36.62 | Max Shank | Harsh planning. It doesn't require ah an insane amount of ah like shelter ah manufacturing elegance either. You know. |
| 19:44.58 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and so like but and this really gets my interest a lot because it really highlights how different groups of people can be and how different individuals can be and. You know when people talk about you know, global currencies or they talk about trying to bring everybody under a standard set of rules and I immediately go you I don't if you if you want to do that I don't think you really understand how this shit works because we. If we try to bring everyone on the same standard. We don't need everyone having the same architectural standards in Hawaii as we do in Maine these are different architectural standards. These are different currency standards. There's these are all very very different and the result in the year Eu was Germany had to come in and bail out Greece basically and there was there was a lot of people that had a lot of feelings about who really should belong in the eu and should they should they build these countries out because they really just had a lack of planning so in my opinion. |
| 20:53.60 | Max Shank | Little little more accurate agreement ahead of time a little more clear operating agreement to go on what if this happens what if this have you know some contingency plans right? And and I think yeah. |
| 20:59.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, but yeah, so this was a number of years ago, but it you know things have yeah I don't think things have gotten that much better. |
| 21:15.29 | Max Shank | Whenever whenever you're trying to solve something where you think it's really really urgent. You typically don't think forward as many consequences of that band-aid like the quicker you are to slap a solution on you're like okay, everybody drop everything. |
| 21:25.25 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
| 21:33.14 | Max Shank | Got a solution and they're like but what about what happens next month we can't we don't have time for that. We just have to do this thing right now and next month comes around. You're like hey that solution ah of eating all of our food and burning all the oil. Ah. Is really fucking us over now we we all agree it seemed like a good idea at the time. |
| 21:58.35 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, but but getting back to is you know? ah your environment where you where you grew up what culturally you know if you had parents to grew up in Russia that you might have an attitude of being a little more um, is it called. |
| 22:07.99 | Max Shank | Any. |
| 22:17.27 | Max Shank | Severe austere. Yeah. |
| 22:18.33 | mikebledsoe | Ah, austere. Yeah, you might have a little more austerity and built into your culture I I have a friend whose family's from the Ukraine and and he moved here when he was about 7 and you know he still has that that you could tell he's still got a little bit like you know we got it. We got to save up for winter type of thing even though we're in Austin Texas. |
| 22:39.80 | Max Shank | Tote Yeah and some people have that to a much greater degree and some people have that to a lesser degree. Some people. Ah you know don't have any food at home and feel totally fine and some people don't feel safe unless they have a multiple year. Supply of food at home at all times and that's that's a huge spectrum. |
| 22:58.70 | mikebledsoe | My my girlfriend thinks I have my girlfriend says I have food scarcity issues the ah but the more not and I never thought about it I never thought about it in the context of this conversation because now I'm going. Oh um, I'm extremely. |
| 23:04.40 | Max Shank | Yeah, um I don't know if she is. |
| 23:17.82 | mikebledsoe | Fair skin probably from the north where people had to plan for this. She's she's a quarter Nicaraguan half Mexican and has some European Eastern European in her but like she came from where the the water was flowing and the the sun was abundant. |
| 23:19.16 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 23:36.43 | Max Shank | Dude just tell her she has ah equatorial privilege or something like that and see how that goes over you'd be like. Okay, yeah, you guys you guys have a dance festival. We have a farm to tend to. |
| 23:41.00 | mikebledsoe | Um, I'll bring that up in the next conversation we get in about such topics. |
| 23:51.36 | Max Shank | And some silos that need stocking you guys enjoy the dance festival. So. |
| 23:54.37 | mikebledsoe | But ah, but I think a good example of this also is you ever watch game of thrones. So what was what was the attitude of the people from the north and lots of discipline you you do what you say and you say what you're gonna do and. |
| 23:59.66 | Max Shank | Oh yeah. |
| 24:05.44 | Max Shank | Um, is about as austere as you get is harsh. |
| 24:14.15 | mikebledsoe | There is a level of honesty that's necessary because life life was on the line all the time. |
| 24:18.42 | Max Shank | And then in the south. It's like orgies and you know just free wheeling and dealing kind of lifestyle down there right? and you know there's a lot of I mean it's a story right? But there's. |
| 24:28.62 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, yeah. |
| 24:37.98 | Max Shank | Ah, guile and lying and backstabbing in all climates. But the austerity of the frozen north versus the temperate tropics is is plain as day in the real world and also in Tv shows. |
| 24:41.40 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
| 24:51.91 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, you're hang out in Jamaica they're they're so relaxed. Well, that's a thing is like I I from hanging hanging out with people who are from the tropical regions and being living in San Diego for a while taught me how to relax I was like oh I just need to chill the fuck out or um. |
| 24:55.86 | Max Shank | Oh my god Bahamas is. |
| 25:12.23 | mikebledsoe | Stressing myself out. There's something to learn from both. |
| 25:15.10 | Max Shank | I Think it's ah wise to do it animal style which is you're either um, like resting or you're focused. You're just focused on what it is. You're doing So I think it's. |
| 25:27.50 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 25:32.82 | Max Shank | Really valuable to um work on a project and really devote yourself to something but all of the the feelings of. Your worthiness attached to your suffering ah that like puritanical shit is probably not very wise. So if you can really party ah like Carnival but then plan like a frozen ah farmer in the tundra then ah. I Think you'll probably find pretty good success and also um, a really enjoyable social life and lifestyle. |
| 26:15.34 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, you get the best of both worlds I mean and it's 2022 so really good to choose that. Even if you live somewhere that does get cold in the winter when you have a heater and you have cars with with heated seats and all this yeah. |
| 26:28.97 | Max Shank | Oh yeah, my God but you gotta shovel the walk. Maybe you got to scrape ice off your windshield like I went I went to the mountains. |
| 26:34.92 | mikebledsoe | Ah, there's still more austerity there. But what I'm saying is like overall things have become a choice kind of like being fit. Ah you you have the ability to be in the best best shape any human being could ever be in because of all the access to anything you ever wanted. But you can also be in the worst shape and you could. |
| 26:50.00 | Max Shank | And. |
| 26:54.43 | mikebledsoe | You could just completely waste your life away doing nothing and playing video games because life is so easy and there is abundance or you could or you could choose to use the tools that technology has has given us in order to really leverage. |
| 26:58.30 | Max Shank | The. |
| 27:13.25 | mikebledsoe | Strategy in a way that makes a really big impact and so the the amount of choice that we have in these things is way higher. So I think it requires a higher level of discipline If you're gonna I think that a lot I think a lot of people tend to.. They don't even really know what austerity is. |
| 27:29.50 | Max Shank | There's way more pleasure levers. Well there's so many pleasure levers like you can pull the coffee lever you can pull the Tiktok lever. You can get tits on the telephone you can get drugs delivered to your like I can get booze delivered to my door if I want to. Get drugs I can get all kinds of shit just delivered to me so there are pleasure levers everywhere. So ah, um, I'll bring it back to fasting because that's the most. Ah. |
| 27:51.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 28:02.77 | Max Shank | But apart from safety. That's the most significant consistent and primal desire that we work with hunger desire pain all synonyms. So if you can control that 1 thing with conscious ah thought then you have at least the foundation. |
| 28:21.26 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 28:21.44 | Max Shank | To control those other things and so um I don't know if there's it's different for everybody though. It obviously seems easier for some people to not eat tons of chocolates than it is for others. Some people. It seems really hard to not eat chocolates and popcorn all day. I find that a little bit challenging myself I would just snack all day long I'll I will just. |
| 28:47.40 | mikebledsoe | On' the other way I I'm like I for I'll forget to eat type of thing I've I've had to like stay on top of myself my whole life. |
| 28:52.20 | Max Shank | If you're really interested in something ah eating is irrelevant if you're really interested I'll I'll do that too but like I will I'll go a whole day without eating. Yeah. |
| 29:01.93 | mikebledsoe | I Think that's accurate. Yeah I'm a very curious person That's probably why I don't eat much. |
| 29:11.18 | Max Shank | And I'll do that too unless you put a sandwich in front of me like if I see the food if I see the food. It's It's very likely going to be eaten I mean I'll smell it first to make sure it's good just like any other animal but I'm going to eat that food if I see it. |
| 29:26.34 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 29:28.92 | Max Shank | And I can eat such a tremendous quantity of food. It is. It is outrageous like sometimes I will lift the bowl which is like a giant plate. It's like a twelve inch platter that's two feet deep two inches deep not two feet deep like a barrel two inches deep giant ah bowl and I'll fill it and sometimes I'll be carrying it from the kitchen to the table and I'll go holy fuck this this is heavy lifting lifting. This food is heavy to me. And it'll be like 3 to 5 eggs a couple of brotw worstst some rice and cheese and pesto and ricotta and it just becomes this mass of eggs and cheese and meat and and it's shocking. It's shocking. What's that dude are you kit. |
| 30:16.57 | mikebledsoe | On the wonder you got fat. Ah no wonder you got fat. |
| 30:25.52 | Max Shank | I will continue eating like a buffet is like a dream.. The only thing is like how much fried chicken versus fried fish am I going to eat at this thing a buffet is like such a perverted Extravagance. Of Human dominance over the food chain like we just have this cornucopia of different animals and plants that you can eat. It is so extravagant I Fucking Love it. |
| 30:52.30 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I mean look I'm not that much different if it's in the house I'm gonna fucking eat it like if there's chocolate in here if there's if there's a cake if there's anything that I'm oh. |
| 30:59.63 | Max Shank | The. I had cheesecake this morning with with coffee I had a slice of coffee ah cheesecake with a cup of mocha. Oh my Oh my God and. |
| 31:11.62 | mikebledsoe | Ah, my mouth is watering now. |
| 31:18.52 | Max Shank | It was so delicious and I was just thinking This is what balance really looks like. |
| 31:24.14 | mikebledsoe | The well for me I practice I don't have that kind of shit in my house I and and because I cause I practice because I'll eat it out I practice I practice my discipline when I'm shopping So I do my shopping online I try to shop when. |
| 31:30.46 | Max Shank | Well yeah. |
| 31:41.13 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 31:44.14 | mikebledsoe | I love shopping online for my food because it's not going to get here for 3 or 4 or 5 days like I'm on like a subscription thing and I I I have to have my order in by Tuesday so I write so it arrives on Saturday so I yeah. |
| 31:48.59 | Max Shank | You know this. |
| 31:56.95 | Max Shank | Ah, that's quite a lot of planning required. You must be from a cold climate. |
| 32:02.30 | mikebledsoe | I. Ah, well, ah, well, the company sets it up like that. So if I want to get this massive discount I get it's like 40% off the food because it's you know they're they're reduced the reducing Yeah food weight. Well it's those things they're they're pushing my buttons. Okay, our goal. |
| 32:09.11 | Max Shank | Moon. |
| 32:18.10 | Max Shank | Guaranteed. |
| 32:24.90 | mikebledsoe | This company's goal is to reduce food waste. Okay I like that they're going to take things that are in you know too much supply. Not enough demand and then they're going to package it and send it my door step before it goes bad, perfect and all really high quality organic food. |
| 32:25.85 | Max Shank | Love it. |
| 32:33.50 | Max Shank | Um, super um. |
| 32:39.34 | mikebledsoe | So it's pushing that button for me, it's like oh I want to you know help reduce food waste I'm a good person and then the and then it's it's all very high well I'm saving 40% off of stuff if I were to go to whole foods I'd spend twice as much as what I'm spending here. |
| 32:53.68 | Max Shank | So not only do you feel kind good but you feel smart good. Yeah oh yeah, superior Wow you're so you're you're saintly. |
| 32:58.67 | mikebledsoe | I feel superior and and good. Yeah yeah, superior and and smart. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, practically and then so so then. |
| 33:11.40 | Max Shank | You're practically feeding people. |
| 33:18.24 | mikebledsoe | I I really enjoy I didn't always I wasn't always like this but I I enjoy the routine of it as like oh I need to have my order in by I think it's Wednesday at noon I yeah, it's a ritual I got to you know Wednesday at noon and it pops up on my calendar. Oh time to put my misfit market order in and so. |
| 33:28.50 | Max Shank | It's like a ritual. |
| 33:37.77 | mikebledsoe | Ah, by the way everyone wants the code for that to shoot me a Dm and you'll save ten bucks after your next quarter. Ah I mean I've been trying to squeeze that ad in for like 3 shows. Yeah, so. |
| 33:42.43 | Max Shank | I Knew this was an infomercial for for groceries I knew it shoot better. Get paid. |
| 33:55.21 | mikebledsoe | The um, so yeah, the and 1 thing I noticed was I didn't order a bunch of bullshit every everyone someone because they do have some bullshit in there I could order some some snack food. Yeah and my impulsivity was greatly reduced knowing. |
| 34:02.94 | Max Shank | Um, it's less impulsive. Maybe. |
| 34:13.96 | mikebledsoe | I don't get this food until Saturday and I'm normally ordering the time of day that I'm ordering is usually after breakfast. So like I'm um I have energy my willpower is high I'm um my I'm fed so I'm not. |
| 34:14.54 | Max Shank | Right? I might not even want chocolates by then? no so you're fed. Wow. |
| 34:30.31 | mikebledsoe | Like the worst time you could go shoppings if you're hungry and stoned I mean what are you gonna buy at the grocery store when you're hungry and Stone. So I go in I'm I'm wide awake. Um I'm dialed in I'm fed I'm gonna make good choices. So Anyways, I have I don't remember how I got down that track. But I. I Hope it's helpful for somebody. |
| 34:49.71 | Max Shank | It's you know it's an environmental hack. That's what it is. We're we're talking about environment. We're talking about what kind of food makes it into the house because that's where the battle is That's the important battle is what gets past the front door. |
| 34:52.59 | mikebledsoe | Really is. |
| 35:06.56 | Max Shank | What gets in the house. So if you just have some good security at the gate you are going to have a much easier time and that reminds me of the most significant gate that requires security in your life which is your mouth. |
| 35:06.87 | mikebledsoe | That's true. That's true. |
| 35:25.77 | Max Shank | Both the things that you say and the things that you consume that that is that is where the ruin of many men really comes from is just weak security at the mouth. |
| 35:28.27 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 35:38.41 | mikebledsoe | True Dad True dad. Yeah, ah this makes me but so the concept of making poor decision making difficult or good decision making easy One of the things that I've done is. |
| 35:52.28 | Max Shank | Un. |
| 35:57.30 | mikebledsoe | I've invested in some crypto and for me to move crypto around or cash it out. It's ah it's a task I cannot without my iphone hit the app on my phone because most 99% of people holding crypto can just pull put in and pull out all willy- nily. |
| 36:14.96 | Max Shank | Does it make you more deliberate but less agile. |
| 36:16.74 | mikebledsoe | Whenever they feel like it. Absolutely yeah and for for long term investing why you don't need agility. You actually yeah, you want to sacrifice that for the purpose of yeah being deliberate. So. |
| 36:30.33 | Max Shank | Especially if you're a very inflammatory decision maker like oh my god it went down 5% I got to sell everything right. |
| 36:36.10 | mikebledsoe | Right? right? and um, like I don't even have I don't I can't even look at um, why don't have any apps on my phone to even track what's happening in the crypto markets I haven't looked at my crypto holdings in over a month |
| 36:48.10 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 36:54.50 | mikebledsoe | And people are like oh it's going down I'm like okay because I can't see it. It doesn't bother me and the thing is is I'm not gonna I wouldn't cash out anyway. But if I was watching it day to day I'd be experiencing the emotional distress. It's an environmental thing like. |
| 37:00.94 | Max Shank | Well, you yeah you. |
| 37:12.14 | mikebledsoe | The the apps on your phone is part of your environment the feed the trough I'm always wanted to get like ah I wanted to create a comic of of and maybe there's one out there where the feed is going into a trough and. |
| 37:13.80 | Max Shank | Um, maybe like the news perhaps or the feed I mean the feed this the fire hose pointed at your face huh. |
| 37:32.70 | mikebledsoe | People are just feeding on it. |
| 37:32.99 | Max Shank | Oh I'm sure you could find that comic right now. Ah, but that's a big part of your environment that's chosen I think it's probably rare that a person looks at a screen for less than 2 hours a day. So. |
| 37:36.48 | mikebledsoe | Now And um. |
| 37:52.77 | Max Shank | that's that's 2 hours of mostly receiving messages from ah a carefully curated environment to make you feel a certain way and you know we're always, we're always talking about mind control essentially because even the actions that you take. You got to use your mind and then outsource it to your legs to get up and run or kick or jump or whatever so looking at the direct influences on your mind that make you think or feel a certain way is huge. You know looking at your. Investments every single day can be fun if you're one of those people or it can be a stressor looking at the news every day can be fun if you're one of those people or it can be a tremendous stressor to you and it's all how you ah. |
| 38:44.77 | mikebledsoe | Um I don't know where fun. The news could be but. |
| 38:49.44 | Max Shank | I Think some people absolutely get off on it. Um, otherwise they wouldn't keep watching right? Um, there's it's like fear pornography. You know I'm I'm like okay okay horror a horror flick. |
| 38:54.78 | mikebledsoe | I Think they're addicted to the I mean it's all dopamine. Yeah yeah, it's the same people who like horror flicks I could care less about horror flick. |
| 39:08.96 | Max Shank | By the way have you ever seen a horror movie that was rated pg 13 and really fucking scary have you ever seen something like that. Okay, so have I and it makes me wonder what's so goddamn offensive about a pair of titties I mean if I see. |
| 39:15.47 | mikebledsoe | I have. |
| 39:27.71 | Max Shank | Okay, so titties are rated R but I can watch a fucking demon rip some like young child in half and then like eat their ah like guts on screen on screen and and I can't see ah an Aryola I mean are this is like. |
| 39:33.24 | mikebledsoe | Oh yeah, well totally. |
| 39:46.75 | mikebledsoe | Dude dude dude. So ah I'm I'm I'm at my this is like five or six years ago I'm at my ex wife's parents house and the ah. |
| 39:47.54 | Max Shank | Whose idea is this? What's more damaging. |
| 40:03.21 | mikebledsoe | You know it's a holiday and they're watching movies you know Tv's on all day and then he's a baptist preacher and so anything that involves sex at all is just a big. No. No, we're watching this horror flick and people are just getting murdered left and right it's like the most violent thing ever. And then there's this sex scene that comes on just for a minute he changes the channel and he's like why do they gotta put that in there and I'm sitting there yeah ah I'm sitting there I'm going I like my my brain was just melting in that. |
| 40:29.62 | Max Shank | No way. |
| 40:42.69 | mikebledsoe | Spot I I couldn't even say anything I just remember looking at my ex mean like what? what's happening like this was okay. So so the the demonstration the demonstration of destruction. |
| 40:42.97 | Max Shank | Wow. |
| 40:51.17 | Max Shank | That is that is like a caricature. That's so funny to me. That's what we're talking about. |
| 41:01.25 | mikebledsoe | And death and murder and violence totally fine, but the act of love is is the thing we want to avoid that's ah it's very interesting. |
| 41:14.31 | Max Shank | Ah, yeah, that's that's really weird. But I mean that is pretty much on brand for for religion to be okay with ah killing a lot of folks but not necessarily having orgies on the altar. |
| 41:30.30 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 41:33.52 | Max Shank | In fact, the the folks who did orgies on the altar the ah the bigger religions were the first ones to to to stop them doing that right woa. Okay, so you're you're so you're I'm. |
| 41:40.97 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, get a so it is back on track. |
| 41:53.40 | Max Shank | Um, bringing this train back on the tracks because we were talking about how the screens are a part of your environment and it's really important to be honest with yourself about how big of an impact they are on your environment from a percentage standpoint because whatever you. |
| 41:58.69 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 42:11.65 | Max Shank | Ah, pay attention to that's essentially what your universe is like it's your perspective of what's going On. So Whether you're watching horror films or pornography or the news which is basically like fear pornography. It's like the stakes are high and we're going to terrify you. But somehow if you had never heard about this thing. It wouldn't have made a difference.. That's what's so shocking to me. |
| 42:35.00 | mikebledsoe | You know what are some of the things that ah ah, some of the conscious choices you've made about your environment that help you live the the life that you really want to be living enhance the lifestyle. |
| 42:53.00 | Max Shank | Oh my god I do have a television in my house and it's huge. Just like my genitals. That's how that's how you measure right? I got a giant truck I have a giant Tv I'm here at a party. |
| 42:54.71 | mikebledsoe | You have a television in your house. Where's it position. |
| 43:06.17 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, that's pretty much all you need. |
| 43:12.30 | Max Shank | Um, no my my environment is amazing I have an environment that makes it so easy to play and to exercise my brother came over with his niece or my niece his daughter and son and there's a park. Across the street from my house and and I have every toy I have balls and frisbees and sticks and ropes and games and things like that and it's It's really just the most fun place to be ever and you don't you don't um. You don't play because it's like going to burn calories or because you're going to get some Ah I don't know some ulterior Motive. You just do it because it's fun. Like for its for its own Sake. So My my house is very much. |
| 44:05.51 | mikebledsoe | There's There's no, there's no necessity necessity for progress to be made. |
| 44:09.18 | Max Shank | Yeah I mean it's fun to play better at something but playing is by far the best I mean winning is great but playing is the best and once you get to that point then you'll see life a lot differently because you also won't tolerate. Encounters that are not playful and fun like the more you hold a high standard for the types of interactions you want to be in conversations can be kept playful ah activities and sport can be kept playful. It's like. Do you really want to talk with someone who's getting angry and yelling at the time. No Do you really want to play tennis with someone who is getting angry and yelling at the time on the tennis core. It's like no, you don't want to tolerate those sorts of um energies really. So My environment physically is amazing. It's practically cheating I have a pool hot tub I got the whole like spa here at home I Got an outdoor area for exercising I got all the fun Toys Tennis courts across the street. Ah, friends who live close by which is maybe even more important and then the gym is a giant playground really total unfair advantage. Great community, Great friends Once again, um. You You do stuff just because it is fun to do not because you you will get other benefits. No question but ah, just doing stuff that is intrinsically fun with people that you care about is is a huge. Unfair Advantage. So Both the physical spaces that I most occupy and the people that I engage with are very playful, lighthearted funny and I don't have to like filter myself like I can say ah like titties. If I want to and they won't get offended or change the station. So ah, the environment is very open for ah experimentation, exploration and falling or failing which is a big part of learning to I mean I could talk about this literally all day Because. Ah, that's the easiest way to provide a good ah gym environment is to create a community and a space where falling and failing is safe to do both ego wise. Ah so more like metaphorically and then also physically. |
| 46:57.42 | Max Shank | Like do you have crash pads. Can you teach people How to fall can you? um you know explore your limits without having to be afraid both verbally and physically so I think um I think it's invaluable. |
| 47:11.97 | mikebledsoe | Beautiful, beautiful. Um, yeah, yeah, well I'll speak about my situation and but I I moved to Austin Texas because I was looking for a new environment to live in I left intonnita is before. |
| 47:18.98 | Max Shank | That's the easy way. |
| 47:31.41 | mikebledsoe | Covid hit I think sometimes when I talk to people in Austin I'm like oh you're one of those people that flood California when covid hit. It's like well I left before I was looking for something new before all that mess. Um, and I I wasn't getting I wasn't getting what I needed there for some reason even though. |
| 47:39.50 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 47:50.68 | mikebledsoe | Where you live is basically heaven. Um. |
| 47:53.46 | Max Shank | Well, you had a lot of things that you were doing that you stopped doing there right? I mean correct me if I'm wrong but was that the time when you like switched businesses and relationships and locations pretty much all at the same time like you're like. |
| 48:07.16 | mikebledsoe | All the same time. |
| 48:11.10 | Max Shank | I Don't know what needs to change. So let's change all of it I get it. |
| 48:13.18 | mikebledsoe | Ah, pretty much pretty much I think I think um, nothing fit anymore and I ended up traveling around I chose Austin Texas because you know I didn't think I wanted to live near a city. But then I realized how much I love all the different amenities. |
| 48:32.16 | Max Shank | I am. |
| 48:32.28 | mikebledsoe | And what I realized also is community is the most important thing to me if I yeah my my girlfriend and I we we were I remember we were down in Columbia ah, not this past January about a year and a half ago and you know the world was being. |
| 48:37.73 | Max Shank | What. |
| 48:51.93 | mikebledsoe | Was fairly chaotic. We were in lockdowns half the time when we were there. We had the January sixth thing going on up here and I'm like man this is a very disappointing time I don't know what's going to happen next. It seems like this whole situation isn't getting better. It's only getting worse. Okay, if we were gonna get stuck in one because. We're basically stuck in 1 spot for four or five days at a time multiple times while we were there so I'm like all right if we get stuck somewhere for 5 years So let's just do the the thought experiment. Yeah, the thought experiment is you can't leave five mile radius for 5 years |
| 49:21.47 | Max Shank | 5 years |
| 49:29.75 | mikebledsoe | Where do you live and and that really got us thinking in a whole new set of terms and the result ended up being Austin Texas because we also realized that if we're gonna be 5 years say we can't leave a five mile mile race in 5 years thing that matters the most is who we're surrounded by so we looked to south for and we looked at Austin because we we had a lot of friends moved to both and and so we ended up here in Austin and made my my ah end up buying a house and the location I bought my house is. |
| 49:54.43 | Max Shank | Oh yeah, oh. |
| 50:07.31 | mikebledsoe | Ah, 15 minutes from this place called Kuyja where I saw it in cold plunge two 3 4 days a week and I used to have a son and cold plunge in my house and I and I was planning on getting my own but I realized that when I go do it in community cause I train at my my house I don't. I don't really do a lot of training outside of my house I don't have like that I'm not getting my community somewhere else. Um I'm doing a little more now I'm getting back into it now that? Ah yeah, I'm getting some shit aligned. |
| 50:29.18 | Max Shank | You don't really do a lot of training period right? You don't really do a lot of training at all. |
| 50:45.30 | mikebledsoe | But um, the. |
| 50:46.14 | Max Shank | Ah I'm I'm a fine one to talk. It's sometimes really hard to get me to do like strength exercise. |
| 50:52.78 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I I probably lived heavy once a week and then I'd fuck around the rest of the time so it is it is now. |
| 50:59.67 | Max Shank | That's good. It's hard when you're already really strong like I hardly am going to get that much more benefit and I know that's not a popular take for a fitness guy but but. |
| 51:12.17 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well the thing is when you got 20 years of fitness under your belt like my girlfriend's like you barely work out and how do you you got muscles and you're strong and I go I've been doing this for twenty years Twenty five years I've been lifting weights for 25 years I don't have to do a lot more. |
| 51:23.48 | Max Shank | Um, yeah, yeah, maintenance on a maintenance on a skyscraper is very different than building 1 |
| 51:31.95 | mikebledsoe | Yes, so but I chose to to live somewhere that's driving distance. That's easy to go to this place because that's where I get my community fix. So I go hang out if I have a sun and cold plunge in my house I found that I was doing about once a week when I spend. Couple hundred bucks a month to be a member at this place I'm invested partly because I'm paying for it. But that's part of it. But also it's actually overall cheaper than having a sana and cold plunge I mean that sana I had was like $18000 and. |
| 51:54.42 | Max Shank | You're invested. |
| 51:59.40 | Max Shank | The people. |
| 52:06.78 | mikebledsoe | Cold plunges run like 3 to $5000 yeah and I have but. |
| 52:08.10 | Max Shank | Well, you can get those both a lot cheaper, but okay, yeah, that is our 18 k for a sauna that is extravagant I know what saunnas cost that's like Johnny Rockefeller sauna over here. |
| 52:17.82 | mikebledsoe | Ah, ah yeah, ah and you had some bells and whistles. Um, but I go and I for the community. So like environment wise. |
| 52:28.88 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 52:35.44 | mikebledsoe | Like there's certain things I put in place that cause me to interact with people because I know myself in that I'm a very social person but unless there's a reason to see somebody I'll stay at home. Yeah I'll stay at home I'll make my own food I'll. |
| 52:47.66 | Max Shank | Feels frivolous if there's no reason for it. Yeah. |
| 52:53.33 | mikebledsoe | Train in my gym I'll work at the house I'll read. It'll be getting dark outside and I realize that I haven't seen anybody in three days and that that's just not good for my mental health and or my girlfriend either because she'll get caught up in the same thing. |
| 52:55.64 | Max Shank | Totally. |
| 53:01.37 | Max Shank | Totally and it's hard to it's hard to recognize from the first person perspective that you're that you're lacking that because you get in your head right? You're in your head you're in your head you're in your head. |
| 53:10.54 | mikebledsoe | Totally totally. |
| 53:19.17 | Max Shank | That's why it's so valuable to have people and activities where you get out of your head and you just are ah enjoying being with the community or in communion in communication with ah other people. It's It's really big so we have the places and the peoples basically. |
| 53:29.59 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, yeah. |
| 53:37.90 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 53:38.61 | Max Shank | Of environment and also the the stuff there are some. There are some things that make it way way easier. |
| 53:45.24 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, or what? ah ah I put little like things in place I make little rules for myself or I'll make something like I said earlier difficult or easy and one of the things is I desire to work on my garden in the backyard. So I got a new house. And I want to have a garden. You know there's a bit of a garden already going from the previous owner. So I hired someone to mow my lawn but there they only mow the front I have to do the back and if I don't go back there and do something in the garden area at least once a week |
| 54:05.50 | Max Shank | The. |
| 54:21.67 | Max Shank | It'll get gnarly. |
| 54:22.67 | mikebledsoe | It'll start getting gnarly. So and I'm gonna look at it every fucking day every day I walk through my living room and I'm gonna look in my backyard and go man that shit's getting gnarly so it causes me and and when I do get out there i' finished work. You know 4 5 six p m I get out there and I start gardening I love it. |
| 54:25.24 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 54:41.95 | mikebledsoe | Got my shirt off out in the sun feels good like it's the best way to end the day and you know if I had no if I if I ah had if I hired if I if I told the people. |
| 54:42.84 | Max Shank | F. Not really optimizing your exercise though with that. |
| 54:57.44 | mikebledsoe | Cutting my grass cost me twenty more dollars for them to do my backyard too. You know from a mathematical perspective. You're like wow the amount of time you'd save but it wouldn't it wouldn't cause me to go take action in the garden. So little things like that. Ah. |
| 54:59.83 | Max Shank | Well worth it. |
| 55:15.80 | mikebledsoe | You can you can set up for yourself make make it a little inconvenient to do to not do something. |
| 55:21.45 | Max Shank | And I think the idea of making everyday things into rituals can be really healing for some people and if you're not if you're not rushing through the gardening if you're just doing it at a comfortable pace. And you're really with the task I think that can be really beneficial for you. |
| 55:43.65 | mikebledsoe | That I just I um I noticed I've become way more process oriented less results oriented when I look at the what I what I love about the garden is it would never be done. You can't finish that project. |
| 55:52.28 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 55:59.68 | Max Shank | Yeah I mean can you ever ah that okay, so the idea of truly ever finishing a project because as soon as you finish 1 you think of things that you would do differently or want to change. |
| 56:12.47 | mikebledsoe | Totally. But if you were to build a cabinet right? or you build a dresser and then you put it in your room and it's complete project's done and a lot of people in a race to get it done or. |
| 56:20.98 | Max Shank | Yeah, the project's done but you might still feel some lingering thoughts. Yeah, that's it I think the the racing. |
| 56:31.67 | mikebledsoe | Brett I would love about the garden is because you know it you can't finish it. It's more about yeah I'll just be out here for an hour and I'll just do what I can do in an hour |
| 56:35.17 | Max Shank | Yeah, well, it's the difference I mean maintenance like that is very different than creation of something. Especially you know a living breathing thing like your yard versus. Let's say a cabinet. Which would require some maintenance depending on how it's built certain maintenance depending on how it's built but the garden is very different because there's no,, There's no finality to it because it's always growing right. |
| 56:56.21 | mikebledsoe | A. |
| 57:07.38 | mikebledsoe | No. |
| 57:12.97 | Max Shank | I think being ah in touch with dirt and grass and trees and water is really valuable and I don't have a specific study that I would like to cite to to prove that that is the case but I don't think it's too bold to say that ah Animals. Should touch the ground and the trees sometimes. |
| 57:34.23 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, ah I when I go to bed night if I if I've spent time in my yard barefoot on the ground moving some shit around whatever it is if I do that between being in the dirt and then. |
| 57:48.17 | Max Shank | And. |
| 57:53.42 | mikebledsoe | Being present while the sun is going down my ability to go to to bed that night the mind is relaxed. The body is relaxed. You know that you can look at the studies on what happens with sunsets and hormones. Maybe you're staring at a computer screen. |
| 57:55.11 | Max Shank | And. |
| 58:12.14 | mikebledsoe | Or television screen when the sun goes on outside you pretty much missed this your body's missing the signal that it was time to go to bed and that's why it? yeah you got to stop working. |
| 58:21.79 | Max Shank | That requires good planning. Well I think that's maybe the fourth dimension of environment I'm just riffing here. But if you I always come really prepared. |
| 58:33.40 | mikebledsoe | I Thought this show was nothing but a big riff. |
| 58:41.21 | Max Shank | I Don't know what I don't know what you do I don't maybe the audience can tell that difference too. But no I don't know. Ah I think time is is environmental also because time is like a container and it goes back to what we were talking about with when you turn it on. |
| 58:50.36 | mikebledsoe | Move. Um, well, it's definitely a structure. So yeah, it is container. |
| 58:59.38 | Max Shank | And focus. Yeah, and I know for myself. Ah, and people I've coached and known if there's ah a timer counting down things seem to happen a lot faster. And if there's not a timer counting down with an endpoint things happen. However, slow or fast they go. There's just no telling what's gonna happen. But if you set out if you set the stage right? and you say this half hour in this space so this environment of space this environment of time I'm going to do x and then you promise yourself that you're going to stop when the timer is done that is a really good way to. Balance that on off switch so you can really be on instead of just being like half on all the time I have a tendency to always be thinking about this kind of stuff that you and I are discussing on Mondays. How to do a better job coaching people. Ah, mentally physically how to do a better job creating books and videos for people how to make the gym run more smoothly. all all that stuff so it's good to just have a notebook close by if you think of something naturally, but. There's also a big advantage to having these time containers I'm going to sit down here. I'm not going to do anything except this one task and when the timer's up I'm done and of course you got to be flexible with that. But I think. |
| 01:00:46.93 | mikebledsoe | That's um, that's pretty much what I use for work is I use a software called Mardut method and it's got a program my entire business into it and some tasks. |
| 01:00:47.38 | Max Shank | That That's a really valuable way to hack the environment. |
| 01:00:58.26 | Max Shank | Here. |
| 01:01:02.28 | mikebledsoe | Related to projects. Some are one off tasks and there are other things called chores chores are the ones that repeat on a certain frequency and the frequency is completely customizable but I end up like I knew that when I logged into my to work today that I had 12 tasks to complete. Some of those tasks take a minute or 2 some them some of them will take 2 to 3 hours um well a couple of them will take 2 to 3 hours um and Mondays ah along like Mondays and Tuesdays are long and then the the rest of the week kind of dwindles down and you know fucking off. But. |
| 01:01:24.10 | Max Shank | It's pretty cool. |
| 01:01:39.91 | mikebledsoe | The ah but I I hit the play button on the task and all the other tasks disappear and a timer starts on that task and so it it over time. It starts predicting how much. |
| 01:01:40.54 | Max Shank | Sounds optimized for productivity folks. |
| 01:01:50.29 | Max Shank | On that task. Cool. |
| 01:01:58.99 | mikebledsoe | How much work you have ahead of you that day. So I logged in this morning goes you have 7.1 hours of work ahead of you today. It's like oh interesting by Friday it'll say like you know an hour and a half or half an hour but the ah just want to give people. |
| 01:02:13.70 | Max Shank | If my to do list good god if my if my to do list said you're going to work for 7 hours today I think I would just shoot myself. |
| 01:02:16.42 | mikebledsoe | Um, ah give people a realistic view of how much I work I don't want to think I work myself to death. |
| 01:02:28.56 | mikebledsoe | It's a long day what you know it's funny is I was I was working I was working like four or five hours a day five days a week and I and I ended up stacking my schedule I actually enjoy just spending two days plowing |
| 01:02:30.89 | Max Shank | Ah, not actually that's a little too morbid. Yeah. |
| 01:02:44.77 | Max Shank | Oh yeah. |
| 01:02:46.30 | mikebledsoe | And then the third day kind of a midday thing and then Thursday Fridays chill but but hitting that play button and knowing that I'm being timed on the task keeps me on task because I I want an accurate recording of what's happening because. |
| 01:02:54.14 | Max Shank | Um, Ah, yeah. Ice and ah. |
| 01:03:03.87 | mikebledsoe | But the more accurate it becomes the ah the quicker you know things happen in my business. It is more honest, yeah in a while. |
| 01:03:09.36 | Max Shank | It's more honest, It's more honest too I started doing timestamps even in my notebook just writing I just put the the time in brackets of when I when I stopped writing and when I started writing and. |
| 01:03:23.64 | mikebledsoe | Wow I Only do the date I Only have the date I write my notes in order of when they came to the ideas came to me too. |
| 01:03:26.78 | Max Shank | Ah, because I'll what's that yeah I like to look at how long I was. That's a smart organizational tool. And then what I'll do after is I'll be like okay, stop at Eleven Thirty nine but then I'll maybe jot like a few bullets of what I want to continue writing about for next time. So I can come back? um. |
| 01:03:53.67 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, nice. |
| 01:04:00.46 | Max Shank | I Think that's I think that's pretty good I think we covered a lot of important stuff. We didn't really riff too much on the specific differences between cultures and climates. But I think ah is pretty straightforward how that was fun. |
| 01:04:09.58 | mikebledsoe | Now we didn't get into I think people get it I think we used a couple examples and yeah, yeah, and I think we can appreciate. That's a big benefit of traveling are you and I have both traveled all over the world and. |
| 01:04:18.88 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 01:04:23.38 | Max Shank | Big time. |
| 01:04:27.49 | mikebledsoe | You get to see the value in all these different cultures and and get to see that everybody is at the core the same but also seeing all the differences and the beauty and that and. |
| 01:04:36.56 | Max Shank | M. |
| 01:04:43.37 | mikebledsoe | You know one place couldn't exist with the existence of the other like like the re yeah the reason the Canadians can have cheap health care is because the Americans are paying for all of it. You know and no, it's just. |
| 01:04:47.16 | Max Shank | Man Absolutely and. |
| 01:04:56.66 | Max Shank | Ah, there is a lot of stuff like that I think I think ultimately compassion is about perspective and compassion is sort of a superpower because the further you extend it the less resentful you become. Less ah prideful and superior and fearful you become and compassion ah is all about perspective. Can you can you understand just how different that other person may be you don't know what their environment's like you don't know what their parents were like you don't Know. What kind of stories they used to believe or currently believe and I think environment is a big part of that you know because then you can also have compassion for yourself and you can set up your environment as if you were a retarded chimp. That's what I do basically. I Just imagine that I am a full or half retarded chimp at my core and I'm looking for pleasure and I'm looking to go away from Pain. So if I set my telephone in the drawer out of sight out of mind if I put the cheesecake out of sight out of mind. |
| 01:06:02.59 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, um. |
| 01:06:13.48 | Max Shank | It's going to be a lot easier to avoid those things and if I'm doing it from a place of compassion then I'm a little more understanding of the decisions I've made in the past and I recognize that you know you're not going to do everything perfectly and neither is everybody else I think that's. |
| 01:06:30.22 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah I think the the traveling and seeing where everyone else where a lot of other people came from is is key in having compassion but also just going through a process of being compassionate for yourself because I think that anyone who has really dug deep and found. |
| 01:06:30.97 | Max Shank | Ah, big part of this too. |
| 01:06:35.45 | Max Shank | More more more big. |
| 01:06:49.83 | mikebledsoe | Where they they've judged themselves in you know we tend to judge our our previous self based on what we know now which if we can get out of that and really have compassion for what created the the being that we are right now I've found that. |
| 01:06:51.38 | Max Shank | Um, oh yeah. |
| 01:07:07.57 | mikebledsoe | That that's created the most amount of compassion for others because I go man I've been through some shit and you know what it's okay, I'm doing a great job and I'm gonna continue to do better and this and that and then the the more compassion I had for myself I look at other people and go who the fuck knows. What? what? they've been through like if if if I had to Deal. You know my life is pretty good and if I had to go through a lot of crazy stuff that that I needed to forgive myself for these other people they need to as Well. So I don't I don't need to come down on anybody. |
| 01:07:41.50 | Max Shank | Well, they're animals exactly you me them were animals within an environment and we're just trying to survive and some of us get past just trying to survive and we go ooh how about thriving. |
| 01:07:45.40 | mikebledsoe | They're they're doing it to themselves. |
| 01:07:57.59 | mikebledsoe | Now. |
| 01:07:59.85 | Max Shank | And we try to be like a little more of you know mating possibilities a little more legacy type of opportunities right? But ah, most most people are just trying to survive in the environment using what they know and. |
| 01:08:14.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:08:19.39 | Max Shank | Really easy to be compassionate for people if you recognize that. |
| 01:08:21.70 | mikebledsoe | You know you know what's ah, let's wrap this bad boy up what's where can people find you. |
| 01:08:31.99 | Max Shank | Http://maxshank.com you can find me and couple spots left for the the partner agility and strength system course June Eleventh ah maxshank dot Com slash pass first one ever. Ah I don't want to I don't want to exaggerate how good it is but it is by far better than any other personal training system in the history of time. So if you're interested. |
| 01:08:59.89 | mikebledsoe | I I would ah I haven't seen it but I believe you I believe you he's probably right? He's right about a lot of things folks. Ah for the. |
| 01:09:06.76 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. Save that clip. |
| 01:09:14.87 | mikebledsoe | For the for the coaches out there. I've got a virtual summit coming up at the end of June June Twenty third through twenty fifth if you go to shop I think if you go to shop http://dotthestrongcoach.com you'll you'll find it there. Um. We'll we'll definitely be taking signups in a week or so be on the lookout for it. It's a name your own price. You can pay anything between a dollar and two hundred and ninety seven dollars I just asked that you pay something that has you committed to the process three day event where I'm bringing in some great speakers that are gonna share how they built their coaching businesses. So. |
| 01:09:43.81 | Max Shank | Wow. |
| 01:09:51.70 | mikebledsoe | Have some heavy hitters there. You'll definitely want to make it and we're recording it. So even if you can't make it live super easy. My brother love you. |
| 01:09:57.59 | Max Shank | Sweet Love you brother take care. Thanks everybody. |
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| 00:00.00 | mikebledsoe | Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're gonna be talking about how to make better decisions using using vision values and boundaries and I'll tell you what we've already gotten into some interesting conversation before we fired up the mics and that's why we decided we need to just get this show started right now because we were getting. Often to some interesting weeds because we'll probably talk about genetics as well. How you doing max. |
| 00:25.52 | Max Shank | I'm doing good man I'm excited to talk about this I think that the more wealth you get the more time you can spend and the less overall decisions. You must make. Ah, investing is a good example of that where you have a really high amount of Leverage. So Every decision is very significant and the precision. Ah and accuracy of those decisions is amplified because a small error one way or the other can really. Increase the cost and reduce the benefit. So all the way from deciding what to pull out of the fridge to eat and deciding which company to invest to and which partner to Choose. It's the most important thing ever and a lot of things influence your decision making. |
| 01:15.34 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, one of the things that brought this up for me is I I have this whole. Ah I have a lot of momentum in my life to travel and there's a lot of events and ah. I I started to notice that I desire to attend less and less things and spend more time at home and really honing in on what's really important and what's not important in getting into these conversations with my girlfriend and really noticing you know. You know if you have no vision and you're trying to make decisions then you're really doomed to the momentum of the past you're not gonna create anything new Consciously. So well, there's 2 factors here. You're you're gonna repeat the past and. And the patterns of the past. But also you're way more susceptible to other people's visions. So if somebody else is intentionally creating a vision and you're being impacted by that and you've created no vision whatsoever for yourself then you you probably won't even notice. That you they you may wonder how did I get to this place in my life. Well you it was a mixture of repeating your your historical patterns and the historical patterns of others and the intentional vision of others as well. |
| 02:45.94 | Max Shank | It doesn't sound good. That's for sure. ah ah I totally relate on the traveling thing as you know I traveled like an absolute maniac for many years |
| 02:51.43 | mikebledsoe | Ah, don't be a sucker. |
| 03:04.96 | Max Shank | I think I was like ah like a street cred Conquistador I would go to different cities around the world and I would teach the Holy Gospel of whatever I knew at the time and pretend like it was this. Massive Authority and people responded favorably to that which was so weird I can't I can't explain what that shift was like because I rose up so fast from being a personal trainer. Going to attend certifications to being only a couple years older and teaching those certifications and I was just trying to grab as much alphaness and street cred and want people to love Me. Maybe even Adoration I think. |
| 03:58.82 | mikebledsoe | I got there I think. |
| 04:00.43 | Max Shank | And right and that was what I saw as the best model the people who were the best in health and fitness industry were the ones who wrote the books and flew around the world teaching seminars and. I've always been one to ah hit the eject button really fast as soon as the appropriate catalyst is there so I went from 20 to 30 trips a year flying and teaching all over to 0 within one weekend. Just chose I was like wow I don't think I actually like this I just want people to like me more than other people. How greedy does that sound I want people to like me way more than other people. So I'm going to keep sacrificing whatever i. Actually want to do and might have fun with and might be ah sustainable or I can you know keep doing this thing where I I just hope people will love me if I do it good enough. |
| 05:11.55 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, oh what's your relationship to compliments. |
| 05:16.64 | Max Shank | Ah I would have to get one first but ah I would imagine if someone did give me a compliment I would deflect it I would deflect it humorously. |
| 05:27.62 | mikebledsoe | Max you're you're so you not. So would you say maybe you you started getting compliments and you you didn't like it. |
| 05:38.27 | Max Shank | Um I started feeling exposed ah like people would just it was so weird, almost everywhere I go people would recognize me like on the street or in a store and that was a. |
| 05:42.20 | mikebledsoe | Ah, by right? You're getting more attention and you felt exposed. |
| 05:53.95 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 05:58.50 | Max Shank | Was a total mind fuck and I'm I'm like in the big scheme of things compared to Bill Murray or something like that I'm nobody but just being recognized when you think you're a stranger in a crowd it. It was a total mind fuck I mean I didn't. |
| 06:16.23 | mikebledsoe | You're not yes. |
| 06:17.10 | Max Shank | It wasn't like harmful that part but I had to fortunately I had the luxury to reevaluate how I wanted to live my life and I realized I I didn't want to be hustling around on planes and in and out of hotels and so. |
| 06:33.57 | mikebledsoe | So yeah, what? what? ah was can you think of what what created that because usually there's sometime of real a birthday. |
| 06:36.18 | Max Shank | The boundary came up really fast and I've. |
| 06:43.49 | Max Shank | Is Birth Birth is birthday I do some good introspection around birthdays and I I went to the Bahamas with a good friend of mine and it was no I didn't work at all. And it was that was rare and I just hung out on the beach and I ran around and played games and went on water slides I was like wow this is this is really fun and it's not because ah you know later I'll get more if I do a good job. |
| 07:19.33 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 07:22.32 | Max Shank | It was just fun. Yeah, so. |
| 07:28.69 | Max Shank | You know what catalyst means something that causes or accelerates a reaction without changing and I thought that was really I just looked this up the other day. |
| 07:32.83 | mikebledsoe | No no. |
| 07:42.88 | mikebledsoe | Would that be like ah an enzyme that that would would cause the change but maintains its own attributes. Interesting. |
| 07:46.54 | Max Shank | Exactly. Yeah, and I had never known that before and it was such a cool thing because I realized that's what I would Ah, that's how I would like to do things ah from ah. I would say from a teaching perspective but that's not really the full story because actually one of the best things about teaching is that you do ah become changed quite a lot from the different variety of students that you interact with yeah. |
| 08:20.16 | mikebledsoe | But I've learned more teaching never did from sitting in a room. Yeah. |
| 08:25.63 | Max Shank | So it so it doesn't really make sense that way but I definitely think the concept of a catalyst is really cool. It's like you don't have to give some of yourself and diminish yourself so that you can create that reaction again. |
| 08:27.99 | mikebledsoe | I think I think being a. |
| 08:35.23 | mikebledsoe | Totally, there's ah, there's a conversation we have in my strong coach curriculum early on which is creating distinctions so you have you have definitions of words but you also have distinctions and that means that. And the reason we have those is because in in our society people tend to collapse the definitions of 2 words because they don't actually know the definitions and they don't create a distinction between the two and we talk about service and sacrifice and how that's a very common collapse distinction in the. |
| 08:59.46 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 09:09.83 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 09:13.33 | mikebledsoe | Entrepreneurial world. Um, it's it's ah if you look at the different cat The you know the the Us caste system. You know we got our different classes of people and so the the blue collar class which is what. |
| 09:29.31 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 09:31.88 | mikebledsoe | But I came from is the service and sacrifice are almost sine synonymous right? and they ah they get those words are interchanged. You know part of that's part of that's a. |
| 09:37.77 | Max Shank | And. |
| 09:51.30 | mikebledsoe | Probably due to christianity and you know Jesus Christ as as the servant that made the greatest sacrifice I imagine that's put together. Also, if also if. |
| 09:53.61 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 10:02.52 | Max Shank | It's a more compelling story. It's a more compelling So story if you sacrifice yourself. Um I don't think it's a healthy attitude. But I think a lot of people are under the impression that if you are wounded in some way in the service of others. Then you get a little bit more street cred and it it does make a more compelling story. |
| 10:23.56 | mikebledsoe | There's there's it's it's noble and you should be proud and that's yeah, so it this what I notice after working you know digging around at a bunch of people's minds. |
| 10:27.93 | Max Shank | A martyr. |
| 10:39.52 | mikebledsoe | And I've worked with people who ah, most of the people I've worked with come from a blue collar background or their parents were in some way and a handful of people who grew up in homes where you know, ah the relationship to money was very different. The the way they lived. Their lives were very different things were. |
| 10:57.89 | Max Shank | A. |
| 10:57.93 | mikebledsoe | Little easier and they don't have that collapse distinction. They they go Oh this is service and the sacrifice these are different things I've I've taught people this before and in a room and some people are like yeah duh. It's like oh tell me about how you grew up. Okay, oh someone who's. |
| 11:08.19 | Max Shank | Man. |
| 11:14.54 | Max Shank | No. |
| 11:17.36 | mikebledsoe | Who goes Oh my God that was a huge exercise for me. It's like oh how did you grow up interesting here and so also if you're if you're somebody who's in power. So say you're you're running a country or something like that if you can convince the lower class people that. Must sacrifice in order to be of service and if you're not being of service then you're a leech on society and you don't feel good about yourself If You're not sacrificing So It's a really good story to tell in order to get people to enlist in the military.. It's a really good story to tell. |
| 11:42.93 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 11:55.87 | mikebledsoe | People to sign up for all sorts of jobs where you may lose your life or a limb or is incredibly demanding of your time and energy. And yeah, it's the more I've dug into this the more. Disgusting. It seems in some ways. Um, if it's being used intentionally now if it's if this is just like the unintentional use of language over time and so on and so Forth. Then you know there's you know there's there's intentional use of it. |
| 12:15.73 | Max Shank | It is. |
| 12:24.80 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 12:32.90 | mikebledsoe | Which would be considered Evil There's the the ignorance. Maybe they're just being ignorant is ignorant use of it. Which means that you know ignorance and laziness go hand in hand because Ignorance is ah the activity of ignoring. So The the. Information is present but you choose to ignore it because it's uncomfortable and lazy people tend to avoid discomfort and then and then you yeah I mean well well, there's. |
| 12:52.93 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 13:03.87 | Max Shank | Doesn't everybody devoid Avoid discomfort though I mean I don't want people to have a complex if they feel lazy Lazy is the natural state lazy and ignorant are the instinctual states which I think we can talk about more later. |
| 13:10.96 | mikebledsoe | Well, there's well, there's well, there's I agree. Totally totally totally. So then you have so you have intentional. You have ignorant and then and then you have just nation. |
| 13:20.95 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 13:28.65 | mikebledsoe | Which means that you just have not been exposed to the information at all and so I like that create distinctions between nations and or nasance and and ignorance because ignorance is you've been presented with the information and you've ignored it. So. |
| 13:31.73 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 13:44.37 | Max Shank | Um, that's so interesting I bet a lot of people think of ignorant as they don't know which is different than ignore and like you're ignoring as an active choice I I think that's ah, really interesting. You bring that up. |
| 13:46.62 | mikebledsoe | Of. Yeah, yeah, or it. Yeah. Exactly. |
| 14:04.37 | Max Shank | I bet because I used to use ignorant that way too like oh I was ignorant like I didn't know but it's more that I knew and ignored it that is a huge shift in that word. Huge. |
| 14:08.77 | mikebledsoe | Well here's the other thing is ah huge huge difference and a lot of people are ignoring things that they'll claim their nation to like oh I just didn't know it's like no that that was sitting there. You know there was. |
| 14:21.25 | Max Shank | Got it I didn't know. Yeah. |
| 14:28.20 | mikebledsoe | So like it's like walking into a room and there's ah, there's an elephant in the corner and you're for some reason you just don't notice it. It's like no it. It's been sitting there. Yeah talking about the elephant in the room right? that some people are surprised. Yeah, people are surprised by it. |
| 14:37.37 | Max Shank | Right? And how do you choose? What information is significant because you have to yeah so you might be ignorant with the best of intentions right? thinking? Oh that's not important right? that's. |
| 14:48.50 | mikebledsoe | For instance, the last the last two years with the best of intentions. |
| 14:56.37 | Max Shank | Where you and I ah like we come across that word evil and so my guess is there are lots of people in the world. Ah, who are real busybodies and they think that if they can just kill 1000000000 they'll save the other 6000000000 or some some kind of fraction. |
| 14:59.19 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 15:15.12 | Max Shank | Like that I don't know look that seems and here's the thing here's that no, we'll just kill. Ah, one of them like an unceremonious random one because if you truly believe if you have the power and you truly believe. |
| 15:15.48 | mikebledsoe | Will we'll kill the 6 bad ones or the one bat about 1000000000 bad people. |
| 15:34.82 | Max Shank | That the world is totally fucked unless you do something you're going to feel a lot of pain all day every day until you resolve that problem and if you have in your mind only a couple choices you'll say do I Let all. |
| 15:52.67 | mikebledsoe | And I got I got multiple phone I got multiple phone calls. Let me let me pause this I got a potential emergency. |
| 15:53.29 | Max Shank | The whole planet die or do I kill 1000000000 people |
| 16:00.50 | Max Shank | Okay, all right? So basically we have this kind of a situation. We have people who are thinking that they must save the world because they really believe the world or all of humanity itself will be destroyed. They have the power to enact the changes that they think will make that difference and they are faced with a choice of let's say kill 1000000000 to save the other six I can understand why they would a do it and b. Not think themselves. Evil. |
| 16:39.82 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, this ah have you ever watched cloud atlas with Tom Hanks oh man 1 of my favorite movies of all time. Yeah, it's a long one. It's like three and half hours it it didn't get a lot of attention when it came out because. |
| 16:45.75 | Max Shank | No oh really, that's cool. Ah. |
| 16:59.90 | mikebledsoe | It's deeply philosophical and you have to pay attention to what's going on for a long period of time so you have to have an attention span which means that you know almost nobody saw it and ah yeah. Yeah there's just a part in the movie where it's it's all about like people controlling other groups of people and oppressing other people and it was highlighting and it's and it's many different timelines. It's like something that was happening five hundred years ago and something else that was happening. |
| 17:24.78 | Max Shank | That's human culture in a nutshell. |
| 17:33.65 | Max Shank | The. |
| 17:36.50 | mikebledsoe | You know something was happening in the 70 s something was happening currently. There's some and then it's the it's 300 years in the future and there's these different timelines that are all over like the the energy and the patterns were overlapping and basically there was a ah. |
| 17:41.55 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 17:55.28 | mikebledsoe | Period of time where they were looking at when there were slaves there was you know white people were enslaving black people and all that and you know there's a a part in the movie where you know it's like hey we should probably stop this and then but leading up to that The guys that believed him is like oh it's our it's our divine purpose. You know. |
| 18:13.30 | Max Shank | Oh yeah. |
| 18:14.81 | mikebledsoe | God has told us to go and conquer these people and the same thing happened when you know people come to America and you know it's like we're gonna take this land. It's like yeah, there's there's some brown people here. But you know we we could probably just take this land. You know there's they're paid for the greater. Good. |
| 18:21.57 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 18:30.10 | Max Shank | For the greater good by the grace of God for the greater good by the grace of God here we are give us your stuff God God Thanks you for your donation. It's like would you pit. |
| 18:34.57 | mikebledsoe | For the greater. Good. Yeah yeah, now now it's the greater good by the grace of science. You know it's the same thing. Yeah, yeah, and so. |
| 18:49.73 | Max Shank | Ah, Mercenaries against Missionaries That's the one I think of the the missionaries will be biting the heads off biting the faces off of the mercenaries to sacrifice to the blood god. |
| 18:53.91 | mikebledsoe | Ah. |
| 19:04.83 | Max Shank | All the mercenaries are high-tailing it out of there because the pay is just not good enough. |
| 19:10.47 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, so you you're talking about. Yeah these people are bought in and I think that a lot of people like if you look at the media. For instance I Think most of these quote unquote journalists are are completely bought in that. |
| 19:11.52 | Max Shank | So you get these true believers. Any price. |
| 19:28.41 | mikebledsoe | What they're doing is for the greater good I saw a clip was I saw a clip of ah you know everyone's art pissed off about not everyone just just people on the left are pissed off about Elon Musk offering to buy Twitter did you hear about this. Are you following it all. |
| 19:28.74 | Max Shank | Absolutely. |
| 19:37.50 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 19:43.67 | Max Shank | Um, I'm actually still really upset about the George Floyd thing I haven't moved on since that 1 news point I haven't really made up my mind about it yet. So I can't move on to the any new any news points. |
| 19:54.13 | mikebledsoe | Oh you're stuck here have you watched any Tv since then. Okay, so so Elon Musk ah he purchases 9% of Twitter you know it's a public. |
| 20:00.62 | Max Shank | No no I'm just still trying to work out this mystery. |
| 20:09.15 | Max Shank | I did hear about it by the way I was just making a joke then he offers to buy the whole thing. |
| 20:12.93 | mikebledsoe | Okay, well fill people in he he purchases 9% of Twitter and well then and then ah you know if he owns 15 % 15% he can you know actually make some demands like he his voice must be hurt. So they offer him a board position like oh why don't you join the board and if you're on the board you can make suggestions but you can't make demands and but you can't own more than fifteen fourteen point nine five of the stocks and you go and he goes. |
| 20:44.13 | Max Shank | Right? As a board member. |
| 20:49.13 | mikebledsoe | I don't want to be a board member then and then he turns around offers $43000000000 for the entire company which is more than the value of the company that no one else is gonna purchase it for that amount and. |
| 20:52.74 | Max Shank | Incredible. |
| 20:58.77 | Max Shank | It it. It has to be Ah, it's really interesting situation because he um rightly understands that that is the the lead horse. On the winner take all of small instant public messages. |
| 21:15.62 | mikebledsoe | Yes, yeah, it's it's the it's you know I on I'm on. Yeah um. |
| 21:20.42 | Max Shank | They banned the president they they took they took free speech away from the president. That's supposed to be everybody gets free speech but because they became the platform. A new platform above the old platform of pen and paper and people talking to each other. They put a blanket of this new platform over everything and they're like this is where we talk now this is where the point gets across really quickly. Ah, it's not that different than. |
| 21:47.13 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 21:55.80 | Max Shank | These guys trying to buy newspapers. It's just a similar play to control the flow of information. It's basic. It's basic war out there and that's nature. Yeah conflict baby. |
| 22:03.91 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, oh it's definitely war. Yeah so ah, people a lot of people I was reading something this morning. It's pretty interesting is like it's like you know, yeah, a lot of people. There's primarily the left for. The political left people were saying they were they were defending Twitter as a private privately owned company that can do whatever it wants so censorship is okay, Elon Musk wants to buy it then they start freaking out that he's going to let everyone say whatever they want and. |
| 22:29.73 | Max Shank | Big. |
| 22:39.41 | mikebledsoe | That something that the government needs to step in and do something about Elon Musk buying Twitter it's like they want their cake and eat it too. They can't there's there's ah there's a foundational lack of fund of of a principle because it's it's whatever, whatever serves their. |
| 22:41.18 | Max Shank | The. |
| 22:52.21 | Max Shank | Um, it's pure Lizard man. Yeah. |
| 22:59.28 | mikebledsoe | Whatever they want in the moment they'll leverage. Whatever it takes to get there. The means justify the ends and. |
| 23:03.21 | Max Shank | Their identity is the tribe So whatever helps the tribe justifies the means basically it doesn't matter what it is as long as it's for the good of our tribe and we're good and those other guys way over there. They're bad. So if you censor the bad guys. |
| 23:09.72 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 23:22.48 | Max Shank | It's good. But if you censor nobody. It's bad by that very twisted logic. |
| 23:24.17 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, because yeah, very interesting. Yeah, so for the greater good. Um, you know I I do find it interesting that ah people really I mean I believe in Elon must having. Good intentions over somebody in government because he is actually contributing to society by his his behavior instead of just trying to take and redistribute. Um, so yeah, same. |
| 23:44.10 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 23:53.00 | Max Shank | On principle I like pie Makers more than pie slicers. Yeah, what do you? What do you bring into the table I think it's ah the difference between offers and orders. That's where the line is. |
| 24:01.52 | mikebledsoe | So How how did I. A a. |
| 24:11.13 | Max Shank | Line between an offer and an order where an order means do this or you are going to be punished with the stick or a fine or whatever and an offer is do this come on. You know you want to do this, do it. It'll be really good for you and. |
| 24:25.53 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 24:28.80 | Max Shank | You can get as persuasive as you want to get but there's no, there's no threat of direct violence or attack on your person with an offer. That's why I like that. |
| 24:38.31 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I saw this mean this morning I reposted on my Instagram it's got ah it's got 4 different things and it says what makes sex not rape consent choice consent. |
| 24:49.12 | Max Shank | Choice. Yeah yeah. |
| 24:55.77 | mikebledsoe | What makes a job not slavery consent. What makes a transaction not robbery consent. What makes taxation not theft magical fairy dust. |
| 24:58.57 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 25:04.20 | Max Shank | Um, yep. |
| 25:11.94 | Max Shank | Ah, and I knew we were going there. |
| 25:15.31 | mikebledsoe | Well today's tax day. So ah I always kept I have to post so taxing every every what's the eighteenth. But ah, ah, they made today the tax day since Friday was the fifteenth. |
| 25:17.71 | Max Shank | Yeah, well people just think that they're so clever. |
| 25:28.57 | Max Shank | It takes a special kind of person to think that they know best not only for themselves. But for everybody else and it takes an even more special kind of person to be unwilling to try to sell people on the idea that they have and instead force it upon them violently. |
| 25:45.52 | mikebledsoe | For your own good. You're greater. Well I think I think it it's It's a slippery. It's slippery because people I think that's a much easier argument to make is if I say Max I Know what's good for you. |
| 25:46.50 | Max Shank | But it's like it's like you don't believe in the product man. |
| 26:04.55 | mikebledsoe | That's very arguable. It's like I don't know if you know my entire situation. You don't you know you don't know about this. |
| 26:07.40 | Max Shank | Yeah, there are definitely situations where you might know better for me than me, no question. It's just we won't know when that is we just won't know when that is. |
| 26:14.67 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, some situations? Yeah, but but then what's good for the greater good is an extrapolation of that that I know what's good for you and then it becomes homogenized too. It's like. I know it's good for most of the people. So we're gonna do this and it's like yeah, it's 1 per 1 person has you know people give 1 person that power and it's it's really insane. |
| 26:47.67 | Max Shank | It's exactly about that control because the whole purpose of groups in the first place is chaos reduction or at least reducing the negative impact of chaos on the collective. So whether it's ah, a group of ah chimps or a nation state of some kind the the concept or the idea of it in the first place is to reduce the chaos. So homogenization is the logical. Ah. Endpoint of that where everybody's exactly the same. Ah totally fungible, interchangeable. We have. We have one billion we have 1000000000 persons they do this and this and this and they do this at this time and this at this time and this at this time. |
| 27:32.36 | mikebledsoe | You're just a number folks. |
| 27:41.15 | Max Shank | And we always know where exactly everybody is just like ah a dairy farm with a bunch of chipped animals. So. |
| 27:45.10 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and I think up until this point the Homogenation um Homogenation homogenization. Thank you? Ah, it has been the most efficient way of creating order out of chaos or disorder. |
| 27:54.21 | Max Shank | Homogenization. |
| 28:01.56 | Max Shank | By definition. It is by definition. Yeah. |
| 28:04.78 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, um, but then if if we look at the Homogen is it is a nation you have to tell me this work ah of chickens right? They've got ah I learned about this this past week and I was talking to some farmers and that's what I do. |
| 28:11.25 | Max Shank | Um, homogenization. Yeah. Course you are on ah on the weekend to just me and some farmers hanging out. |
| 28:21.89 | mikebledsoe | That's what I do at festivals I Hang out with farmers chicken out chicken it eating some of the meat Egg Grew Um, and you know they were talking about the the common chicken you find at the Gar Grot grocery store is the. |
| 28:35.23 | Max Shank | A. |
| 28:38.64 | mikebledsoe | The meat has gotten to the point where you're not actually digesting and getting the protein out of like a typical chicken breast and yeah, so there's they've they basically bread for this one particular chicken that can barely even walk right? because the chickens are bred for. |
| 28:44.00 | Max Shank | What. |
| 28:54.31 | Max Shank | But yeah, um. |
| 28:57.91 | mikebledsoe | Weight and I don't I'd learned this to they now are getting these chickens up to full weight for slaughter and 6 to eight weeks after they hatch so now. Basically these chickens you know. |
| 29:08.50 | Max Shank | Wow. |
| 29:14.99 | mikebledsoe | They stand up real well against feeding them soy and corn. They they get fat. Really they put on weight really fast but the meat is of really low quality and ah and. |
| 29:18.89 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 29:26.51 | Max Shank | Like the Amino acid profile or something you mean. |
| 29:30.76 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I know if it's they it was something about how the meat grows it almost turns into fiber versus protein like it should be protein but it's like a protein. |
| 29:37.30 | Max Shank | Okay, that's that's weird. They're changing protein to a carb somehow. |
| 29:42.48 | mikebledsoe | No, it's not a car but they're saying like it's it's it's not digestible. It's too fibrous like that. Yeah, the meat is too fibrous. So and the other thing is there are 2 I'm sure someone can let me know they they may know more details about this. |
| 29:49.28 | Max Shank | Indigestible protein weird. |
| 30:03.12 | mikebledsoe | They're down to like 2 types of chicken that are being grown so you get 1 type of aviary flu comes in and just wipes them all out now we're out of chicken. So like you know them being single pain of. |
| 30:15.78 | Max Shank | It goes back to the single point of failure thing we were talking about last week |
| 30:21.16 | mikebledsoe | So if you homogenize too much. It only takes one disaster and then and then you and then it's ultimate chaos which is you know devastation? Yeah that that could but unless I mean and. |
| 30:25.50 | Max Shank | Yeah, unless there's redundancy built into that central system right? but but it's like diversification right? The more you diversify the more um cushion you have. |
| 30:40.28 | mikebledsoe | But it's not good. |
| 30:44.77 | Max Shank | But the less of ah the less you diversify the further you can go in a single direction back to the comparative advantage example. |
| 30:48.71 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, absolutely yeah, so just it seems like to Mobgenize is is a good thing but there's also potential downfalls and so I mean we we already talked about decentralization versus centralization and and how things are moving and how. |
| 31:02.22 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 31:08.39 | mikebledsoe | Things in the future may not need to be so homogenized in order for to create order. We're talking about order and yeah through more complex technology I think I think we need less of that. |
| 31:22.90 | Max Shank | Well, when it comes to decision making having ah rules of the game is really important if you want to make a decision in a sport or a game of some kind the rules need to be consistent and they need to be understood by everybody. For the game to work So That's part of what makes conversation so challenging for people who have been raised any time in the current Era. There's a lot of contention and there's not a lot of collaboration. There's not a lot of ability to have an expansive and collaborative argument rather than a combative argument. You know you and I argue the validity of different points looking for a truth. Or a better representative of the truth rather than having a combative argument where I'm trying to prove that a is right? and you're trying to prove prove that B is right and we already talked about how people will go to any means necessary to support their point. Even wishing the censorship or possibly murder of other people if they don't believe the the truth the same truth that they believe so being able to have the rules of the game. The rules of discourse the rules of. The locale clear and simple enough to be understood and effectively used by all is a prerequisite for us to be able to play the game. Ah consistently and joyfully. |
| 33:06.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well I think there's there's 1 thing we agree on that allows for differing opinions to come in and we're able to work through it that is we we don't we're not confused about what's right? And what's wrong like we we have an agreement on that. |
| 33:22.90 | Max Shank | Well oh no I think they're I. |
| 33:26.35 | mikebledsoe | And so because you were saying your time Out. You know I think there's the right way to do or the wrong way. But I I think that we both agree that something that is right is something that doesn't impede on somebody else's life or Liberty and if any anything that isn't. Trampling on somebody else's ability to live their life and the way they wish is totally right? That's right and anything that is trampling on someone else's life and Liberty is wrong and so everything else? Well, That's that's trampling over someone's life and Liberty but that's wrong. |
| 33:49.25 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 33:54.89 | Max Shank | Um, unless they murder 10 people right? right? right. |
| 34:04.11 | mikebledsoe | So so I think that we you and I both have a pretty clear understanding about what is right and wrong and anything that's not wrong is right? and so the ah and not only is it right? but it is a right right? I Think that's where rights come from. |
| 34:19.86 | Max Shank | Right? right. |
| 34:23.85 | mikebledsoe | So if I'm not doing something wrong. That means I'm not stealing from you I'm not taking your property I'm not enslaving you and I'm not killing you then anything I do outside of that is a right and we both understand that that's where we have agreement and I think because of that. |
| 34:30.73 | Max Shank | Yeah. True. |
| 34:42.44 | mikebledsoe | We understand that everything outside of that is an opinion and I think a lot of people they confuse the morality of right and wrong with their opinions and I think you and I have both been able to be. |
| 34:53.48 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 35:00.66 | mikebledsoe | Clearly have that in our mind that yeah this is what I'm holding right now isn't about right and wrong. It's just about it's an opinion or if it is right or wrong then it's ah, there's a very solid foundation in which that conversation is existing on so it's very easy to work through. |
| 35:08.80 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 35:16.90 | Max Shank | The question is really do the ends justify the means is it is the juice worth the squeeze is the benefit greater than the cost and that's where it gets way harder to tell because you you could make a wrong choice. Ah, for yourself and not know that you're making it and I think that happens all the time so we need to find a way to harmonize the instinct and the intellect because I know I'd come back to this a lot. But. Usually when people are angry or sad or over emotional. It's It's some version of afraid and they're in that lizard Brain Mode. So they might react instinctively they might. Yell or fight or run or cry or something like that when they feel afraid but only because they're in Lizard Mode. So I think a lot of folks don't even give themselves a chance myself included at times in the past I I Remember. Aftermath of making choices that way but in the moment you're like somewhat unaware of the fact that you're making these choices that in normal Circumstances. You would intellectually know this is probably not going to give me a better result. |
| 36:48.54 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 36:51.10 | Max Shank | So finding a way to harmonize the intellect and the instinct and use the intellect to channel the instinctive drives rather than sporadic explosions of instinct. |
| 37:05.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, the I like the idea of channeling instinct because that when I think about Instinct I Think about um Instinct is something that you can't actually put words to. Because it's It's something that wells up inside of your body. It's preverbal these are and we look at animals they're operating we say they're operating on Instinct because there is no language for you know and that's not necessarily always True. We can listen to these wells and dolphins and. |
| 37:25.60 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 37:39.50 | Max Shank | It's like programmed desire basically because Hunger is a form of desire sex is a form of desire safety is a form of desire. So there's you know pain is a synonym for all those things but there's a genetic pre-programmed in all of us. |
| 37:40.99 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 37:56.92 | Max Shank | Common ground where there's no question about the origin of these things This is something that is shared by pretty much all living creatures and so how do you take that Raw instinct and. |
| 38:05.70 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 38:14.65 | Max Shank | Channel it with greater precision into a place that you want being able to project further into the future can be really a frightening experience for people I think. |
| 38:24.88 | mikebledsoe | Well yeah, so so the instinct instinct coming from the body from you know the the brain stem essentially not coming from the prefrontal cortex where the intellectual mind lives and where language is formed. |
| 38:41.51 | Max Shank | My instinct is in my root Chakra Mine's way lower. |
| 38:43.19 | mikebledsoe | Is the moment. It's way lower. Yeah and we'll say from your your throat shock or down is it will is that instinct. Yeah yeah. |
| 38:54.24 | Max Shank | His instinct Huh That's a good way to put it. |
| 39:01.11 | mikebledsoe | Once you you get the intellect in your third eye. So that's that's that's actually I haven't used those words to describe it when I think about all the energy that exists below My third eye is there you if you try to put language to it. You're gonna fail. So the. |
| 39:01.92 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 39:20.55 | mikebledsoe | The the mind the intellect must translate the instinct. So the instinct is to do this or that but the mind is what tells the body that there is time there was a yesterday and there's a tomorrow. And there's a separation between Mike and max. It's the mind that yeah, it's the mind that creates this so now what you have the instinct is is so primal and without words you know we're just animals and so when we when these. |
| 39:39.92 | Max Shank | The scorekeeper. |
| 39:53.22 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 39:57.42 | mikebledsoe | Words come online and we have these incredibly strong instincts. This energy is flowing and if we don't know how to use our words if our if our vocabulary is limited. |
| 40:03.71 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 40:12.50 | mikebledsoe | If We have no practice in changing how we think by changing the language in which we think in and not mean English versus Spanish I'm saying using expanding the vocabulary using different words understanding. Actually what you're saying and do you understand. And all the words that you you use yourself most people I think are running around using words that they're confused about and because they're confused about it. They're confusing people around them. So There's a whole culture of people who don't really know what they're talking about. And I think that's the majority of Americans in the least. Um I Do it too. So. |
| 40:51.44 | Max Shank | I Do it all the time I would say unless I'm very specific and deliberate and I want to make a very distinct point I let the conversation flow. Normally and I use all kinds of words and metaphors where I don't have a crystal clear definition of what I'm saying like with the word ignorant I had never thought about ignorant as being an active ignore ignoring I always thought about it as just a ah passive not knowing. And that's monumentally different. |
| 41:31.74 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and the the take this further is the the mind is having to translate to the body to the to the instinct and even train the instinct to a bit because. The Instinct wants Instant gratification. It wants what it wants right now and the mind has to step in and go whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa If We get what we want right now we won't have We won't be able to have it tomorrow and we won't be able to have it. |
| 41:51.87 | Max Shank | Ah, right. |
| 42:05.84 | Max Shank | Right? So it's like putting a leash. It's like putting a leash on the instinct and the shorter and shorter the leash the less it's running wild but sometimes it can be pretty fun to let your instincts run wild. Especially if you can. |
| 42:10.44 | mikebledsoe | You got it? True Yeah, totally to. |
| 42:22.56 | Max Shank | Really turn it off because I think that is equal and opposite damaging to have your entire life tightly controlled by your intellect and you'll feel like the weight of the future is unrelenting. |
| 42:32.30 | mikebledsoe | Absolutely. |
| 42:39.50 | mikebledsoe | Absolutely yeah and I think there are ah really healthy ways of letting that Instinct run wild. There's you can create containers for that. Um I've had the experience of just going full animal. Ah. |
| 42:51.10 | Max Shank | O. |
| 42:58.17 | mikebledsoe | Down in Columbia on this really big piece of property where I drink a little bit of yaha which is this incredibly powerful Psychedelic medicine and then I basically stripped down Buckna and run around the Sat sun roaring in the and the jungle like that's about. But. |
| 43:15.88 | Max Shank | Everybody else got a clear picture of that I Sure do. |
| 43:16.61 | mikebledsoe | I Also know that I'm supposed to say yeah. |
| 43:21.59 | mikebledsoe | Um, so that so the ah so there was a clear boundary I knew that I was not supposed to leave the property but within that you know I was. |
| 43:34.28 | Max Shank | M. |
| 43:39.42 | mikebledsoe | Able to completely let loose and you know turn into a Jaguar and do all that shit. So ah I've had to that's like my peak instinct tapping into instinct experience that I've had and then reintegrating that's interesting. But it's the integration back into the mind and the mind now has to translate what the instinct is asking for into language which is an incredibly difficult task and so my opinion is. |
| 44:12.42 | Max Shank | M. |
| 44:15.90 | mikebledsoe | You would. You'll never be able to perfectly articulate to yourself or to somebody else the experience of Instinct and by yeah, but you can get more accurate over time. |
| 44:26.92 | Max Shank | It's like trying to walk a mile in someone else's shoes you you can't do it. |
| 44:34.45 | mikebledsoe | You can expand your vocabulary. You can have a longer conversation with someone you can get somebody closer to it and you can get yourself closer to it but to get to the absolute truth of what it is. It's not possible. But I think it's a worthy task to to do as good as as possible at doing that. And so because you're in my instincts are probably very much the same I mean instincts amongst species of animals are very Similar. We know that dogs do these dog things and it's out of Instinct Dear do these deer things out of Instinct fish so on and so forth. But what makes us different. I Think why why humans are live such diverse lifestyles and there's such diverse. Um expressions of the instinct is because it's each person is interpreting their instinct through this this mind and. The mind is you know trying to control the the instinct and direct it and all this stuff. Um, so. |
| 45:37.62 | Max Shank | The prediction protection machine comes in a lot of different ah models right? Still your parents teachers peers media culture. Whatever are like okay here's your intellectual filter and then you go from being this. |
| 45:42.38 | mikebledsoe | Exactly yeah. |
| 45:55.94 | Max Shank | Little creature that doesn't have any language at all that just grabs stuff and puts things in its mouth and you know rolls around and now suddenly you're talking and you're saying this is good and this is bad and so now your third eye is the scorekeeper and the rule maker. Based on whatever you've been taught. |
| 46:16.37 | mikebledsoe | yeah yeah yeah I don't know if that's a I know I said third eye don't know if it's the exact or your third eye is ah to me is is when all the energy comes into a single point and then you can direct you can direct your attention. So I don't see a third eye as a thinker. |
| 46:28.87 | Max Shank | Um, um, ah that's that's a little different. Ok so you're so your intellect your intellect then. |
| 46:36.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it's a little different. Yeah, but you got us around a shak room. So I was trying to make sense of it but I wanted to correct that for myself. Yeah, which is I think that's different so but I think that's that's 1 thing that that I think that separates. |
| 46:46.80 | Max Shank | Yeah, it's interesting to think about projection. |
| 46:54.91 | mikebledsoe | People from one another is. It's that intellectual mind because I can never explain you my experience then then I know that max will never understand me completely and I can tell you a story. |
| 46:58.30 | Max Shank | M. |
| 47:06.81 | Max Shank | Yeah, you can tell me a story though and the better the better you are at communicating that story and the better I am at clarifying. Ah my interpretation with questions. The. |
| 47:24.21 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 47:24.22 | Max Shank | Clearer The communication will be and it's the same thing for the stories that we tell ourselves not just other people right? Um, it's so easy to have different milestones. |
| 47:32.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 47:42.12 | Max Shank | In your story that are told in a way that makes you into a victor or a victim for example and I know it's not always binary. But I think everybody listening including you and I has. Recognized people who at every point in their life was a tragedy the way they retell the story at least and you've heard other people in life where everything was a victory. It was ah it was always coming up jackpot for this person and then you're with them and you're like this doesn't. |
| 48:06.39 | mikebledsoe | Hey. |
| 48:19.75 | Max Shank | Actually seem like the same story I was being told and so it's very interesting and I wonder how genetic predisposition is like that um like being gay is genetic right? no. |
| 48:21.67 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 48:37.95 | mikebledsoe | I I think it's I think genetic? What? ah. |
| 48:39.42 | Max Shank | Yeah, you oh god here we go Mike Mike Bled so thinks being gay as a choice send your hate mail to Mike Underscore Blesco Aty at Instagram. |
| 48:54.37 | mikebledsoe | Um, ah. |
| 48:55.71 | Max Shank | I Hope you're ready for your inbox to be destroyed you hateful Homophobic bastard. |
| 49:03.25 | mikebledsoe | Ah, oh man. |
| 49:05.53 | Max Shank | Ah, you are practically a nazi you're practically hitler I can't believe you said that I'm so sorry for Mike everybody ah dear god. |
| 49:18.93 | mikebledsoe | Oh man, you know I I don't know Well we talk about this before the show is like the semantics matter because because we've talked about this before the the. |
| 49:21.11 | Max Shank | Ah, so let's so. |
| 49:29.56 | Max Shank | Um, what is and what isn't what is and what isn't. |
| 49:37.58 | mikebledsoe | I was listening to a story from somebody the other day that said you know that our the Dna sequence of a human and the sea creature is more alike than you know a human in ah in a chimpanzee and that immediately clued me into everyone's mind went to like oh my god. We're more like sea creatures than we thought and my mind immediately goes to. We're studying the wrong shit like these scientists are they they've missed the boat on something because they're really focused on this Dna thing when obviously that's not what's causing the expression of of ah of our reality. |
| 50:14.65 | Max Shank | Like child soldier spelling Gee champion. Yeah. |
| 50:15.40 | mikebledsoe | And so you know that's why I pause with the genetics and there's there's way more variables contributing to how a person is being than genetics or training or you know the the nature versus nurture is like ah a very It's a very cool topic to. Talk about, but it's nature and nurture are the same thing and the end of the day. |
| 50:38.19 | Max Shank | Good God I've never heard anything so hateful before. |
| 50:49.28 | Max Shank | Um, it's interesting to think and let's just take because it's ah like gayness is a funny topic to me. Ah, and for the record. Ah most people I don't like. And whether they're gay or straight has nothing to do with it. But let's suppose that gayness has some element of genetics and some element of Nurture. So some nature and some nurture does that mean that there is a chance that like you and I were like. 3 uncomfortable locker room situations away from turning gay that's pretty interesting right? Or for the food thing like you have a predisposition to um, fearful mindset. |
| 51:30.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, I've um. |
| 51:44.98 | Max Shank | And you have a predisposition to rapid weight gain. But then you layer on some trauma on top of it and boom you have food is the medicine. |
| 51:52.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, um, yeah I'd be curious to see stats on you know, ah when it comes to homosexuality like people who identify really heavily based on sexual preference. I Think anyone who identifies heavily on sexual preference alone or identifies heavily based on a preference of any kind. Not even sexual is very.. It's a very dangerous place to put yourself because now you get into. |
| 52:12.99 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 52:18.27 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 52:27.59 | mikebledsoe | You become very easy to control through political means. So yeah. |
| 52:30.87 | Max Shank | It goes back to our talk about the tribe right? If it's for the greater good of the tribe we'll fuck over anybody. |
| 52:37.72 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so you end up with really? ah you know you end up, you know if if you if you identify as being a part of this group or as being this thing. Then you got to vote this Way. You got to behave this Way. You can't hang out with this people. You got to hate this person or that you have to hate this other group and so I get I think that just anything that that starts creating identity becomes very dangerous which people who do identify heavily with a group get very angry. |
| 53:07.97 | Max Shank | I got. |
| 53:14.60 | mikebledsoe | When I say these types of things I gotta watch myself but I know that I'm safe here on on the Monday morning show and probably not. Ah. |
| 53:20.20 | Max Shank | I Don't know after all that bigotry earlier I don't think there's a chance I got a little jingle to help us remember this um and a Noun is easily taken down but you cannot disturb a verb. |
| 53:27.80 | mikebledsoe | Okay. |
| 53:37.00 | mikebledsoe | Ah, ah. |
| 53:38.48 | Max Shank | So That's that's what I think about um, you know you become the task your your ego is irrelevant the whole the whole magic is in knowing that the here and now is all there is and when you're. Planning You got to think of that like a hunt where you're like really focusing your attention and you're you're actively doing something but you're not also consumed with some identity that is fraught with all kinds of. Inconsistencies and crying egos desire to be loved in a very specific Way. So It's much better to become the action and you'll be better off doing actions that make you feel in Tune or in Harmony with the Universe. Which is your perspective and relationship with your surroundings. Um then trying to be trying to like be happy like you're not going to get Happiness. You can be in a flow State. You can be in peace and presence in the present moment. But if you're. If you're stuck in Noun based identities rather than becoming the task and doing it's going to be really hard. |
| 54:59.97 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I like the Noun versus the verb conversation overall because if you think about I've had this conversation when I was working with and lifted which is you are a verb if you consider yourself to be a Noun then you're. A Noun is static. It doesn't Move. It's It's not very fluid. It just is and it makes it very hard to progress when you identify as a Noun, but if you if your identity is a verb then a verb is doing. It is Moving. It is progressing. There is. It's always changing which is way more in line with reality because the universe is moving in a very fluid nature. There's very few solid things and. |
| 55:45.46 | Max Shank | O. |
| 55:55.79 | mikebledsoe | There's some solid principles in which everything is is revolving around for sure but going back to the the gay conversation is in my life I've experienced sexually a very.. There's been times where I was very narrow in my preferences and there's been times where my my preferences expanded tremendously and then I've made adjustments now the band of my preferences is probably not as big as a lot of other people's um. And but I don't necessarily like I I found what I like and but I don't like and I don't necessarily think that that yeah had I identified as just a straight man 100% I'll never Touched another guy in any way I wouldn't have gotten to where I am now and which is very um, um, I'm much more happier and I know that I've experienced all these things and I know what I like and what I don't like and and that's okay, but I think most people. Even people who well maybe even especially people who identify as straight and they'll never try anything and they identify with that Noun you know they may be they may be missing out on some some interactions even with. Say you're a guy you may be missing out on some interactions with women in some interesting situations If you're terrified to see another man naked in a sexual environment. |
| 57:33.38 | Max Shank | Wow! So you're saying that gayness is a choice and you would not be the man you are today without doing some slightly gay things. |
| 57:42.46 | mikebledsoe | Um, Ah what I'm saying is ah I have I have watched my own mind change enough and without intention and with intention ah to to realize that. I I could tiptoe right into just about anything if I I public up. Um my mind to it. So Someone's intentional. So It's not intentional, but you know I think it's I think people just do whatever the fuck they want at the end of the day. Yeah. |
| 58:16.54 | Max Shank | That's great. So ah, that's really what it comes down to it comes down to consent I think the verb Noun thing is great way to ah clarify. |
| 58:19.57 | mikebledsoe | As long as you've got consent I don't give a fuck. |
| 58:34.49 | Max Shank | The the breaking the back of the ego that is required to make the best decisions possible and take the verb running or to run versus I'm a runner so I am running versus I am a runner. |
| 58:39.59 | mikebledsoe | And. |
| 58:50.96 | mikebledsoe | Here. |
| 58:53.67 | Max Shank | And granted, if you identify strongly with an activity. You will probably be better at it and if you strongly identify with that action and then that action goes Away. You will feel a great loss. Also. |
| 59:12.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, or if you're not the best at it. It may that that also creates a situation of comparative analysis. It's like oh I'm I'm a runner so is max. Oh he's better at it than me like he can run faster further. |
| 59:20.94 | Max Shank | Competitiveness Yeah, right, It's true faster further easier. It means you're worse means you're worse than me at at running. |
| 59:29.34 | mikebledsoe | You know what's that mean about me. Yeah, what's that mean about me I'm I'm not as I'm not ah I'm not worthy. Yeah, so the. |
| 59:37.89 | Max Shank | Ah, oh man sounds so sad. Even even joking about it. But that's the inner monologue that most of us have for such a variety of reasons. |
| 59:43.39 | mikebledsoe | Totally that does and this one I'm a big fan of this conversation because ah there are so many things people are dealing with say being unhealthily competitive. And they're just trying to be less competitive when when we could be looking at something that's a much deeper conversation which is are you are you stuck in a noun-based identity or are you or are you moving with a verb based identity and if your identity is more fluid because ah being. Ah, associating more with being a verb creates identity fluidity which is which is which means that I can show up the best version of myself in every situation. No matter what because I'm not not over identifying with any 1 thing. You know when I'm in my office and I'm talking to you I'm a podcaster or I'm podcasting but when I leave here and I go hang on my girlfriend. You know I'm ah a romantic partner and all these things I think that there was a period of time where I started saying. Oh I'm like these 20 different identities. All these things that I do make up who I am and then one day I go this is just ridiculous. Why don't I just be like like just be completely fluid with the identity and I'll do what's. |
| 01:01:02.73 | Max Shank | Then. |
| 01:01:15.31 | mikebledsoe | Necessary for me the way the situation is demanding and me thinking about what label I want to put on myself so that I can try to seek some type of external validation. So I can feel good enough. That's just ridiculous. |
| 01:01:27.46 | Max Shank | And yet and yet that's what we mostly do I think entrepreneur is a very fluid identity in general because people are by definition willing to try a lot of different pursuits so you will attract that sort of personality. |
| 01:01:39.25 | mikebledsoe | It's broad. |
| 01:01:46.27 | Max Shank | Into entrepreneurship that is much more fluid. |
| 01:01:48.21 | mikebledsoe | No yeah, yeah, being on being an entrepreneur means so many things and such a broad term and I do I do like that when it it makes it easy to explain what I do I Tell you you know like I'm an entrepreneur a podcast coach. Whatever That's just me. |
| 01:01:55.84 | Max Shank | Yeah. Right? But then but then nobody knows if you're good right away? Yeah, right. |
| 01:02:08.20 | mikebledsoe | Just me relaying you know to other people so they they know how to talk to me. That's the other thing is I tell people when they ask me what I do or who I am I Um I don't tell the same and I don't tell different people the same thing if um, if I'm hanging out with a bunch of coaches I tell them you know I'm a coach. |
| 01:02:16.94 | Max Shank | Yeah. Ah. |
| 01:02:27.35 | mikebledsoe | Coming out somewhere most of the time I pull out the more recently and I've decided to start pulling out the podcaster card more because no matter who they are. They may want to come listen if I tell them that I coach coaches if they're not a coach. They don't give a fuck. |
| 01:02:35.32 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:02:43.36 | Max Shank | Um, maybe I'll start doing that I mean I don't know if that's I guess technically true I've done enough to be considered a podcaster. But if you're. |
| 01:02:46.92 | mikebledsoe | So yeah. |
| 01:02:52.38 | mikebledsoe | Well also if you tell people you're a coach then they start bringing their problems to you and the same thing happens with Ashley he's like oh you're a therapist you know I've been I've been dealing. It's like I get the fuck away from me. Ah. |
| 01:03:02.37 | Max Shank | Right? Very compassionate of you. Ah, no totally. It's about setting those boundaries but I think what's cool about saying I'm a podcaster is you are in a very subtle way saying my words are important my words are. |
| 01:03:17.96 | mikebledsoe | Oh really? Ah yeah, but anyone's got a podcast these days I feel to me being a podcaster's not a big deal deal at all because there's it's almost no barrier to entry. |
| 01:03:21.37 | Max Shank | My words are important. Yeah, of course it says that yeah I have a I have a radio show My my words are important. It's It's really interesting. It's not. It's not cool. No. |
| 01:03:37.26 | mikebledsoe | All you need is a phone and and a 10 Joe Regan yeah yeah well of course. Well it's there's going back to podcasting is decentralized media. You know. |
| 01:03:40.32 | Max Shank | But who has the biggest audience in the world people listening to podcaster. Yeah, that's wild. |
| 01:03:54.81 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:03:55.91 | mikebledsoe | He's got the biggest audience in the world for sure. But then there's 4000000 shows that are you know, almost no one listens to to those but but you can do it and anyone can do it in the period entry is super low. |
| 01:04:02.66 | Max Shank | Nobody listens to yeah yeah. Which is pretty cool. |
| 01:04:14.40 | mikebledsoe | And that's going to keep happening in every industry every industry that the barrier to entry is going to just keep getting lower and lower and lower unless the government layers on regulation then the barrier to entry gets high which is what they're trying. That's why Facebook and Twitter ah tried to. They've been very. |
| 01:04:24.70 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 01:04:33.50 | mikebledsoe | Um, encouraging of government regulations and people go oh there like it's a noble thing that Facebook wants there to be regulation where they're the only motherfuckers that can afford the lawyers to wait through the bureaucracy they're there. They're squeezing out their competition every time there's a new regulation like Facebook wants it. |
| 01:04:49.19 | Max Shank | Well, that's how lobbying works. Yeah paide. No it shows it shows the power of communication though I mean. |
| 01:04:52.74 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah I don't think we actually got to what we were originally talking to. But I think it's okay I'm I'm enjoying the content. |
| 01:05:06.46 | Max Shank | Refer to lawyers as word Warriors and they can they can manipulate they can manipulate look if you're a good lawyer. You can manipulate almost any situation to sound totally different than what physically happened. |
| 01:05:07.86 | mikebledsoe | I Love it. It's true. |
| 01:05:22.63 | mikebledsoe | Totally. |
| 01:05:25.26 | Max Shank | And it's storytelling. It comes it all comes full circle in the beginning. There was the word and whatever I say that's what's true and the more confident you are about that like what I say is good and what they say is bad. A lot of people just are wanting to believe that because also there are going to be more people who want to follow than people who want to lead So you're going to naturally have these groups right? It's like ah. Some people want to be whipped and some people want to do the whipping and I don't know what the percentage is on that and my guess that it varies significantly by Gender. Ah so it's very I Just mean in general. |
| 01:06:03.84 | mikebledsoe | And. |
| 01:06:15.37 | mikebledsoe | To I like bdsm situations. |
| 01:06:21.73 | Max Shank | Like yes also in that sort of a situation. Oh I was going to say ladies but are you going to have a different answer. They're more receiving and attractive. |
| 01:06:22.75 | mikebledsoe | Which gender. Do you think likes be whipmore. |
| 01:06:31.89 | mikebledsoe | I Find that the more dominant and day to day day to day. |
| 01:06:40.68 | Max Shank | That's what I mean so you oh I see what you're saying so they're ah they want to assume a different role to decompress from being an a tractor of force rather than a transmitter of force. |
| 01:06:49.84 | mikebledsoe | Yes, yeah, it can feel very powerful in a different way. So like a lot of times you create a container where there's ah where you can play a new role and. |
| 01:06:57.64 | Max Shank | Interesting. |
| 01:07:05.30 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:07:07.75 | mikebledsoe | And maybe someone who's normally on the more of a receiver gets to be someone who's delivering and it's ah it's a really fun experience and the same with Richard Branson is one of these. He's got a couple dominrix with them most of the time. |
| 01:07:12.98 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:07:22.66 | Max Shank | Loves to get whipped. Seriously, he's got a few dominatrixes with him all the time you heard it here first. |
| 01:07:24.56 | mikebledsoe | And he's a very powerful guy. He's the one giving orders all day. Yeah, still about all the time that that that's ah, maybe an over generalization. But ah my my my friends who have spent time with him have said that they're present. Um, so. |
| 01:07:39.70 | Max Shank | Wow. |
| 01:07:44.11 | mikebledsoe | The and I don't know if that's public information but I'll give a fuck because Richard Richard Branson is you know he's old. So. |
| 01:07:46.68 | Max Shank | It is now. A Monday morning original you heard it here for breaking news folks. |
| 01:07:57.51 | mikebledsoe | I think I think the guy's really great in some respects but anyone who came out and wanted mandates or pushing are the people to get vaccinated Richard Branson comes out and gives me some fucking medical advice. He can shove up his ass. So totally. |
| 01:08:11.38 | Max Shank | He thought he was doing the right thing Mike he was doing it for your own good. He thought he was doing good and yeah, yeah. |
| 01:08:17.13 | mikebledsoe | totally totally there there's a handful of people I looked up to before this whole debacle Schwarzenegger is another one you ever hear that screw your freedom clip. Yeah, the guy that came here from Austria and became. |
| 01:08:30.24 | Max Shank | Yeah I get I get sent ah a few things like that. Yeah, it's it. Well, it's like ah don't don't worship false idols you know or or that phrase never meet your heroes because then they'll just disappoint The fuck out of you. |
| 01:08:35.20 | mikebledsoe | And experience wilder success. |
| 01:08:40.51 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 01:08:49.67 | Max Shank | I think ah Richard Branson is actually the perfect ah way to bring this back full circle because reading that guy's book ah almost gave me stomach ulcers. |
| 01:08:56.77 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 01:09:05.31 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 01:09:07.89 | Max Shank | In terms of the way that he makes decisions because every chapter was a different variation of and then I bet it all on black and then I mortgaged the house and I bet it all on red and then I sold my music company to buy. |
| 01:09:19.52 | mikebledsoe | Right? right. |
| 01:09:27.18 | Max Shank | Ah, fucking jet engine and then I rolled the dice I mean this guy was just a fucking lucky animal just a lucky animal and all of the steps of the story were like. Bankrupt not bankrupt but up and down all around and look what is the result now. He's exactly where he is which some people would say is really good. We have no idea what that guy's life is like except for your hot tip on the. Ah, live in dominatrixes but that can work that that that could work that could work right? his his way of just being ah a bowl in a China Shop it seemed like. |
| 01:10:03.12 | mikebledsoe | I live in. Anyways, they're they're present. But yeah. |
| 01:10:15.77 | mikebledsoe | Why you know you only got to hit once or twice you only got it investing is not gambling because in gambling you're gonna you're gonna come in and start over the next day and investing. |
| 01:10:16.45 | Max Shank | On to the next thing on to the next thing onto the next thing on to the next thing It's true. |
| 01:10:26.78 | Max Shank | Um, kind of is m. |
| 01:10:35.43 | mikebledsoe | You hit once and you never have to work again. You may may win big at the casino. But you're you're gonna be back in the casino. |
| 01:10:41.48 | Max Shank | Um, interesting. Yeah I almost think of them as ah, just 2 versions of a similar thing because once you hit a jackpot on one business you're going to feel the itch to do another one probably. |
| 01:10:49.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:10:55.37 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, but you can if you're smart about it. You'll take a portion of it and diversify and things that are more stable. Yeah. |
| 01:11:06.42 | Max Shank | That's not the Branson way. That's what I like to do I like to take some of my money off the table because you know I don't want to give all the money back that I won I want to take some off. He just let it ride the whole time. How much money do I have. |
| 01:11:14.27 | mikebledsoe | Now now now. Are are how how would how would you like to wrap up this show. What's the how I don't know I just hear comment thread. |
| 01:11:23.80 | Max Shank | Bet it all bet it. It is impossible to wrap up this show I'm still thinking about all of the people who are going to send you angry messages that you said being gay. Is a choice that's incredible. Can we make that the title of the show being gay as a choice by Mike Blitz how um |
| 01:11:42.89 | mikebledsoe | Ah, you know what? I know how I I I Know how people's minds were go but I never said that go back and listen to the actual conversation. Ah, Max knows if he says it enough people will believe it repetition. Yeah, absolutely. |
| 01:12:05.37 | Max Shank | It's that's true with almost everything right now is it also true that you think it can be cured. |
| 01:12:15.39 | Max Shank | I Don't know if you provide a service or anything like that. Ah. |
| 01:12:16.63 | mikebledsoe | Ah, oh man I've ah I'm aware of some services like that I think it's a very interesting thing that exists in the world. So that's all of another show. |
| 01:12:35.42 | Max Shank | So how do we make good decisions Mike Vision values no that was how you start that was the very first sentence you said in the that was it the first sentence you said then. |
| 01:12:35.49 | mikebledsoe | That's all another show. |
| 01:12:42.30 | mikebledsoe | We we talk about vision values boundaries. That's how we started. Um, that's where I thought that's where I wanted to take it and then we got into a flow. |
| 01:12:55.23 | Max Shank | There was a little. There's a little sign marker at the very beginning sentence one and then we just took a hard u-turn in a completely different direction. We didn't I don't even remember what the third thing is now I knew was vision values in something else. Boundaries there you go maybe we'll do that next week. |
| 01:13:08.61 | mikebledsoe | Boundaries. Yeah, maybe next week we'll see we have to name the show though. So we have to come up with what the hell we talked about. Ah yeah, any any summaries since. I remember what we said. |
| 01:13:22.35 | Max Shank | I Think the concept of not getting hyper attached to an identity and a Noun ah like a fixed state versus a dynamic action and being a verb instead just trying to become the task. Really Good. We talked a little bit about communication I think that myself included we all talk too damn much and if you focus on doing things that are intrinsically enjoyable that you want to do just for the sake of doing. Then you are in the present moment and the ego is irrelevant. There. So then you aren't going to worry so much about you know how all these other ah stimuli affect you all these news stories and all this fear mongering because I think it's good to Remember. It's basically always been. Like this where a small group are trying to completely terrify a big group into falling in line. |
| 01:14:29.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, pretty much very accurate I like what you said I'm not going to I'm not going to add anything I think we had a good conversation. Ah, you can follow me on Instagram at Mike Underscore bloodso and keep paying attention to this channel I've got a lot more. Episodes posting of interviews that I am doing some other folks and max and I are going to continue to put Monday morning up every monday. |
| 01:14:57.98 | Max Shank | Sweet. You can find me at http://mashank.com or at mashank and I think there are a few spots available for the partner agility and strength system certification I believe that is June eleventh and there's a big discount if you sign up before the end of April so ah, that's it. Thanks Mike Love you man. |
| 01:15:26.23 | mikebledsoe | Excellent! Thanks Max! Love you. |
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| 00:00.00 | mikebledsoe | Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're going to be talking about decentralization now this is a word that's being thrown around quite a bit I don't think that people necessarily know what it means and when it's used. It's normally used specifically for. Currencies they're talking about decentralized currencies alternative currencies like bitcoin ethereum and a bunch of other shitcoins that are out there but the idea of decentralization is much bigger than that and when we look at technologies that allow us to decentralize. We can see how it disrupts. |
| 00:37.94 | mikebledsoe | Economics It Disrupts social constructs and it yeah entire societies. So we're gonna talk about as decentralization occurs what you can do to position yourself to be in the best place possible. Um, and not get completely screwed over like some people are gonna experience. |
| 00:58.54 | Max Shank | Well I think this is gonna be perfect for us to talk about because you and I have really different perspectives on this I'm not very schooled in cryptocurrency because I don't quite understand the stability of it. Um. But I am deeply interested in increasing the amount of freedom I have in my life as well as that of our listeners. So I'm excited to discuss it with you today. |
| 01:27.44 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, so let's start here the the decentralization um as a concept is that there's a smaller group of people that have absolute control over what's going on in their world. |
| 01:46.14 | Max Shank | Um, that's centralization. You mean. |
| 01:46.84 | mikebledsoe | So right now decentralization. Well there's ah what I mean is like you're grouped into a smaller group So there's greater responsibility for the individual in a decentralized society. |
| 01:58.88 | Max Shank | So the individual has more agency over their money their time their food that sort of thing. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. |
| 02:03.31 | mikebledsoe | Yes, yeah, yeah, more agency more autonomy more choice. Um in some cases so in ah and a centralized setup. |
| 02:15.43 | Max Shank | A. |
| 02:21.72 | mikebledsoe | Which is primarily what we're existing in right now if we have we have centralized money we have centralized food supplies. We have centralized energy systems. So when I talk about decentralization or centralization. This is a global conversation. Not necessarily. Talking only about cryptocurrencies or only about farming so with that being said is if you're we are being driven into a decentralized society because of ah you know this twofold one is people desire. It. Enough people desire it and that desire has helped people to generate technology which makes it possible and due to a lot of centralized power and a lot of money coming into a very small group people a lot of technology has been advanced. That used to only be available to a few that's now available to many an example of this is I remember when and you've probably noticed this max is Amazon um, and this is just a function of capitalism Amazon has. Always has better technology than the average ecommerce store. They have better tracking. They've got more data on their users. They've got ah their ability to sell at scale is just incredible and there's so many pieces of technology that. Only existed for http://amazon.com five years ago and now you and I have access to Facebook ads that targeting targeted ads that most people don't know much about ah because of Facebook and ah. A lot of this stuff that only really advanced marketers with a lot of money had access to special software. That's now been made available to all of us. So um I mention that because because of the way that things have been built up at this point is what actually creates the opportunity for a. Decentralized technology do exist now. So one's not better than another one just gives birth to another and the technology that's available will basically demand that you things be more decentralized and that each person takes more personal responsibility. And for those who don't take personal responsibility. It's gonna be a hard transition. |
| 04:56.23 | Max Shank | I think you brought up 1 of the big advantages of centralization which is called economies of scale. So one of the reasons that people we can feed more people and one of the reasons that we can get more people a cell phone. |
| 05:05.25 | mikebledsoe | Go. |
| 05:15.98 | Max Shank | Is because these companies are able to do it at a much lower cost because as the number of units goes up the cost per unit thanks to efficiency goes down so not just. Thinking centralization bad decentralization good is important and I would also agree that as long as the consumers are free to choose their product then that will yield the. Best efficiency as long as you can choose whether you want to go to Walmart or the farmer's market or something like that I think that's kind of inherently good and the more we are allowed to choose the better. The outcome is and the more people are forced to obey. the the worse the outcome is historically and presently. |
| 06:15.79 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, this conversation makes me think about Atlas shrugged. You've read the book. Yeah, okay, ah so in out. |
| 06:23.99 | Max Shank | People either really like that book or they really hate that book's guts don't they no no, one's like it's all right I guess. |
| 06:32.38 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well you know anytime I run it when I run into people that hate it it I've learned to to focus in on 1 thing in the conversation that will totally break them and that is did you finish it. |
| 06:50.33 | Max Shank | First. |
| 06:51.91 | mikebledsoe | Did you read the whole thing because I've yet to meet somebody who's actually read the whole thing that still hates it so you know usually people hate it because they read something that someone else wrote about it or they're part of a ah social group that. Thinks that ein Rand is the Devil. So ah, it makes me think about that because you know you're saying choice. But right now they're essential like so let's just forget forget that but the where things are going when decentralized decentralization becomes possible technologically possible I think is what's going to happen is what happened in atlas shrug which is the most productive people in society are going to choose decentralization now. Decentralization wasn't. Necessarily a concept in that book. But the concept in the book was that the people who were the most productive and the people who took the most responsibility for themselves and their companies and things like that once that once they were being taxed. And the government was demanding and and social groups were demanding that they be more like slaves than independent and people they basically burned down their factories and walked away from their jobs and shut down the railroads and all went hiding in a valley in Colorado. And a lot of and then people in society are going. You can't do that and goes I can do whatever I want I'm not a slave and so I think what's gonna happen is the the atlas shrug is happening but we're not gonna have to go hide in a valley in Colorado. And where we're we were you know able to hide from planes and radar and shit what's going to happen is we're me able to hide technologically or we're going to be able to opt out of the current system. Ah and technologically and then everyone who's productive goes there and the people who are mediocre at. Best will still subscribe to the to the centralized model and so when we start talking about choice. It's like yeah you do have a choice but the being a part of a centralized model in 2020 or 2019 or whatever was. Really probably the most convenient choice. It was you you ended up having a lot of luxury a lot of really cool things were available to you. But as time goes on if the best producers on the planet decentralize. They've now removed themselves from your economy. So you're not getting the best anymore. |
| 09:43.84 | mikebledsoe | And the the beauty of a centralized economy and a centralized society is you don't have to think so much because people can become much more specialized and they don't have to consider. You know where does my food come from. You know what's really going on with the currency people right now. For instance, you could take a computer programmer and they've gotten really good at computer programming. They don't know Jack shit about anything but computer programming and so that's because. They can pick up their phone and have their groceries delivered to their house. They can just automatically have their money. Ah go into an Ira that you know someone from their job told them it was a good idea and that could they're they're outsourcing their wealth. Their health. Just outsource all these things something goes wrong physically, they don't have to be aware of it. They just go to the doctor and they write him a prescription a pill to fix it and so. |
| 10:42.41 | Max Shank | Well, that's comparative advantage. You hunt the food I'll cook the food and this guy here will protect us in the night and this lady over here will take care of all the children. |
| 10:51.76 | mikebledsoe | Totally but in a world of centralization where we're dealing with hundreds of millions of people. We'll we'll talk about the United States specifically it's become. It's we've gone past the point of diminishing returns. There is a massive benefit to it. But now we're seeing the repercussions of it for instance, the average person unless you're a health expert your health is really poor. |
| 11:19.31 | Max Shank | That's true and we could think about the causality of that and to piggyback on this centralization theme I think it's really important to differentiate between which sectors. Of Centralization. We're talking about So I like to simply think of it as you have no choice of where to go you have to come to us basically right? and so there's education which I'm no fan of I think it's child abuse. |
| 11:42.50 | mikebledsoe | In a centralized model. |
| 11:54.28 | Max Shank | I Think it's a really bad investment I think it's yeah public school I think it's one of the worst things you could do to a child. It's a horrible investment I could it's obedience school. Let's keep a simple language obedience school listen to this guy at the front. |
| 11:54.41 | mikebledsoe | Government education. |
| 12:01.14 | mikebledsoe | We should just call them indoctrination system governmental indoctrination systems or something. |
| 12:13.23 | mikebledsoe | Did you you send your kid their obedience school today. He's been acting up. |
| 12:13.56 | Max Shank | Sit down shut up, ask permission to go to the bathroom god forbid it I ever have a kid I would never send it to school not in 1000000 years um under no circumstance. Yeah well, it's ah you know I don't want to assume it's gender. |
| 12:22.85 | mikebledsoe | If I won't have a kid as long as you start referring to as long as you refer to it as it. Um, you might get yourself in hot water there in California. |
| 12:33.55 | Max Shank | Ah, so I don't want to be 1 of those hateful people who used to think that genitals identified your gender. Ah I'm woke now. Ah so anyway, so. |
| 12:49.23 | mikebledsoe | Congratulations max. |
| 12:50.61 | Max Shank | Centralized education gets away worse result. Ah the bigger. The centralized government is the worse. The result is because it's the difference between the pie makers and the pie slicers and you have to Zoom way out and. And way in to really understand what's happening so zooming way out to what it's like to be a creature who's capable of doing things and surviving in the world is really difficult on your own. In fact, it's impossible on your own. So the whole purpose of our culture. Is to reduce chaos and that's why actually why games and play are so critical for building relationships and also building skills because if you have the chaos reduced through culture but you don't have any dosage of that excitement or chaos. You're going to be a really sad little monkey and then you also need to really zoom in on what I call rules of engagement so you have to consider the interactions between entities. And reduce it down to the fewest parts possible to really understand what's happening. You know if 3 people live on a cul-de-sac and 2 people vote that they should Rob. The third one is that okay and interestingly enough in democracy. Yes, that's. That's perfectly. Okay, in fact, that's exactly how it works as long as most people want to Rob the not most people then is totally fine. So all of this back and forth. |
| 14:33.33 | mikebledsoe | It. It's interesting. How people people lose the concept of morality at scale it. What you? what you say makes no sense when it's a hundred people but the moment it's a 0 people it's |
| 14:43.50 | Max Shank | The. |
| 14:52.23 | mikebledsoe | Somehow has eluded people What what do you think that is. |
| 14:55.22 | Max Shank | The the greater good The fallacy of the greater good. Um, and it has to do with arrogance. Some people want to be saviors so they have a messianic complex of some kind and they want to be the guy who saves everyone some people are just sadists. And they want to dominate and control people and typically those are the only type of people who want ah positions of Authority like I I don't want a position of Authority over anyone but myself because I think I'm I'm a reasonable person. Ah, it's totally unreasonable. To want to be in charge of hundreds of millions of people. It's totally unreasonable. Um, but that's why. |
| 15:40.86 | mikebledsoe | There's a book about this There's a political pourology I I began it I've read about 20% and then I had to start it was one of those books where it started getting I was gonna have to invest more energy into it. When I want to put my energy somewhere else. I'm definitely going to come back to it but the concept I had gotten to that point was psychopaths make up 4% of the population. This is a so this is a known psychological statistic. |
| 15:59.26 | Max Shank | M. |
| 16:14.72 | mikebledsoe | And just like the rest of Society. The psychopaths tend to you know they the thing that makes a psychopath so powerful is not only are they not experiencing emotions the same way we are so we experience emotions and. Creates turbulence and it impacts our decision making and yeah, we just we just do really strange things to fit in and somebody who's a psychopath the the really good ones understand that other people. Are having a different emotional experience than they are. They know it and they know how to exploit it and so yeah, so not only not only do they, they're not experiencing the same emotional stuff so they actually become very apathet on a become I think they just are that sounds like they're born this way. |
| 16:55.20 | Max Shank | They leverage that perceived weakness. |
| 17:10.91 | mikebledsoe | They're very apathetic which is kind of a problem but then on top of that they understand how you can be manipulated with your emotions and so ah, just like any group of people they're the ones that are really smart and then they're the ones that are really dumb. The dumb ones end up in prison and the smart ones end up in Dc and the so there they are attracted to pout. So you tell about being unreasonable this book makes the um makes the case that ah. They're drawn to power over other people and so. |
| 17:48.40 | Max Shank | Exactly and like what you just said, it's rhetoric driven. It's tugging on people's emotions rather than focusing on fundamental rules of engagement. You know there really shouldn't be that many laws and every law should be in simple language. But of course. |
| 17:52.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 18:07.74 | Max Shank | That is not incentivized by the people who are writing up these laws. You know so. |
| 18:11.90 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I like what you're talking. Ah I want to go back a little bit because we're a little off track but the it was worth touching on the the as you were talking before I was thinking about incentives because when we think about people who are in in a centralized power structure. And you always mention this first we got to look at incentives so someone in a centralized power structure where is the incentive for them to make the decisions that they're making so what is the incentives of the news media. The centralized news media outlets Cnn ah Fox all these things a highly centralized stream of information because they're all reporting the same shit. They've got the same narrative. There's a centralized There's a centralization of information there and then. |
| 19:06.00 | Max Shank | I would say they're opposing narratives but they're about the same thing and that thing doesn't matter very much compared to the real situation which is jurisdiction and Authority who's in charge and when do they exercise that authority. |
| 19:08.30 | mikebledsoe | There. |
| 19:13.18 | mikebledsoe | Well. |
| 19:21.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and well that episode that you recommend to me last week Joe Rogan with Gavin De Becker he talked about how man that was one of the best Rogan shows I've ever heard. Ah, he talked about. |
| 19:29.55 | Max Shank | Is champ. |
| 19:38.50 | mikebledsoe | How all the news media outlets basically agreed to call Iver mechton horse paste and there wasn't a major news outlet that wasn't doing that and so what they got. |
| 19:42.80 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 19:49.96 | Max Shank | It's a coordinated assault on people's minds to maximize their attention and to maximize their fear because fear is deeper in the brain than anything else. So you have to recognize that that. You have to recognize that the news is a hostile entity and you must take precautions to protect yourself from this because of the incentives you know, um, the whole idea of good and evil. Is um I think it's a trap all on its own. You know, don't believe the red guys are evil the blue guys are evil whatever just recognize that they're um, traumatized animals just just like almost every person right? and they're just doing. What is in their best interest with no regard for you but rather than ah say this is evil this is good. This is what whatever you just have to recognize for yourself that that is a hostile attack. On your mind and it's not going to help you exist in the world better to pay attention and it might even feel ironically a little more scary at first to not like know what's going on in the world but when it distracts you from. |
| 21:16.30 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 21:22.60 | Max Shank | The fundamental. That's why I come back to rules of engagement if I have value that I can provide to you that you believe is truly valuable as long as I can communicate with you. You will take it. And it'll be a win-win situation. That's why I say the customer is always right? The coercer is always wrong and the more you focus on serving your customers something that they really value the more abundant your life will be and the more you focus on. Plugging in to a machine that is literally trying to destroy your mind and break you into thinking that you are alone and isolated and powerless and convince you that some asshole in a big chair. Knows what's best for everybody else because he suddenly like figured out his version of utopia How could utopia be the same thing for Everybody. We're so different. You know some people like having their nipples hooked up to car Batteries. Do I Want that guy deciding what utopia is no way. |
| 22:30.21 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, ah, circle back. But the going back I wanted to finish on the incentives thing is is ah going back to the fear. The the media creating fear the incentive there is. The more fear they can create the more you're gonna consume their content and the more you consume their content the more you're gonna buy from their advertisers and their advertisers are going to send more money to the news agency and so you know. |
| 23:03.11 | Max Shank | And the more you'll trust what they say if you if you just expose yourself to it more you will start to trust what they say more and more and more and more and more and that's why you have right now, People who blindly Trust one outlet and blindly distrust another is the classic. |
| 23:07.31 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 23:11.54 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 23:22.71 | Max Shank | God and the devil situation. Blindly Trust whatever God says which is your favorite news outlet and blindly distrust whatever the devil says which is the fucking other guy. It's just it's us and them type of shit and you would think we would be past this but we're still just. Ah, half-retarded chimps looking for food and love. |
| 23:47.78 | mikebledsoe | There's um I want to point out you said something really important is the it's the repetition creates beliefs. So if you if you were consuming that news outlet every day. It's the repetition of something that makes it believable. We talk about the there's there's ah, a handful of ways that you learn something and if you want to ingrain something as ah as a skill and I think about skills and beliefs the same exact way is. Every skill you want to get better at hitting baseballs. You're gonna fucking swing that baseball bat a lot of times if you want to believe that something is true. You'll go to church every Sunday that way you get that repetition and so that you ingrain it. Whether it be good or bad I'm not saying either 1 is good or bad. But this idea of good and evil ah playing out and saying yeah red team bad blue team good whatever it is. It is is really. Great to look at through the lens of centralization versus decentralization because in a in a centralized model of society you can create groups of people and just say that entire group over there is bad or that entire group over there is good because not only is the information. There's um, there's so little deviation from one narrative about who's good or bad There's no opportunity. It. Yeah, it just creates very few options. It's like you're either like good bad or independent and you're kind of a dick for not you know. Deciding you're good or bad or not and so the decentralization of good and evil requires and here's the thing is decentralization requires people to think and that's why a lot of people are are resistant to it because you have to think. And if you have to apply moral law in your own mind to each individual that you come in contact with then instead of just being able to label them and not have to be curious about them and think about them and listen to them. It's it's a form of laziness. And people are ah again going back to repetition. People are repetitively ignoring information they're being ignorant by choice and they've done it so much that they they don't even think there's a way to consider and. |
| 26:31.91 | mikebledsoe | And make a moral judgment themselves on an individual instead of an entire group people because someone else did the thinking for them. |
| 26:37.79 | Max Shank | Well, there's a reason that um, we do that is because trust saves calories. It's really valuable to be able to trust other people that way you're not assessing every person you interact with and go oh is this guy going to attack me and steal my. |
| 26:44.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 26:57.78 | Max Shank | Will the beast meet or whatever it is I'm guessing be different now but trust saves calories so it can be a very powerful tool and if you trust nobody man life is extremely hard and it feels very isolated So it's. |
| 26:58.57 | mikebledsoe | Um, am. |
| 27:11.81 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 27:16.36 | Max Shank | No surprise that we want to trust somebody that we want to. It's all it's trust is pure efficiency it. It is like language faith Trust all this stuff if I can outsource my health to someone who knows better. |
| 27:28.32 | mikebledsoe | 5 blame. |
| 27:36.23 | Max Shank | And I can outsource my finances to someone who knows better and I'm saying legitimately. Also they legitimately know better that that's going to give me a much better outcome if I can trust a farmer who's much better at farming to make my food I'm going to end up. So. Crazy wealthy. It is like a superpower to have all of these different experts and that's the core of comparative advantage but you got to be careful who you put your faith into right? That's why I think um, The. The most flexible culture is one that is based on free choice because if trust is broken in one sector, there's another sector to soften that trauma basically. |
| 28:29.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 28:30.62 | Max Shank | You know what? I mean as long as there are multiple options for where you can go to school buy your food. Um that sort of thing. It's ah yeah, multiple places multiple doctors you can go to and of course everyone because of. |
| 28:41.60 | mikebledsoe | Well that this is where. |
| 28:49.60 | Max Shank | Power structures we want to go from survival up to supremacy. It's like survival sex and supremacy and sex and supremacy are so closely interrelated because that's how ladies choose the more ah exalted or elevated you are in the hierarchy the more. Ah, you are going to alert the sounds so weird alert The females to your viability genetically right? So you have to look at these. |
| 29:19.30 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 29:25.00 | Max Shank | Raw instincts underneath all of this stuff so because there are people who are looking to dominate and protect their authority. They're also going to stomp out other alternatives and maybe even with good intentions. Do some? Ah arguably evil stuff the greater good just anytime you like hear or even feel that sense of the greater good. Oh My God that person. |
| 29:49.30 | mikebledsoe | That's where book burning comes in hand comes in handy. |
| 30:02.45 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, that's ah, that's a slippery one. Um, why the ah book burning I mean the modern day book burning is getting banned from Twitter or Youtube or whatever it is um. |
| 30:02.86 | Max Shank | Come on get out of here. Good lord. |
| 30:14.78 | Max Shank | Yeah, that's pretty wild. |
| 30:19.42 | mikebledsoe | It's pretty fucking people people think are advocating for if they were actually burning books on the street they might freak out but they don't think they're not able to think and connect the dots that these the the way it's happening is the same thing or. |
| 30:34.68 | Max Shank | Censorship is an admission of guilt we should. We should be able to have we should be able to have ah a Martin Luther King guy and a hitler guy have a nice debate with each other that would be interesting to watch and like. |
| 30:36.97 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 30:45.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 30:49.94 | Max Shank | What you have so little faith in humanity that everyone's going to go like you know what after that crazy guy yelled for a while I think I am going to go for ethnic cleansing now. It's like what come on. |
| 30:58.35 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, oh man. Ah yeah, there's so much to talk about there. The I think that I want I Want to point out that decentral late decentralization is not isolation. It's quite the opposite and I think what's going to happen in the future is that. |
| 31:20.88 | Max Shank | It's of specific aspects to it's not absolute decentralization because that that wouldn't be very efficient at all I think you're mostly talking about currency I think you're mostly talking about currency. |
| 31:27.39 | mikebledsoe | Right? You can decentralized to right right? You're not, We're not decentralizing down to the individual all I'm talking about but no I'm talking about food I'm talking about energy all these things. Ah the the it's not. It's not well. |
| 31:37.30 | Max Shank | In most cases right. |
| 31:44.95 | Max Shank | Talk to me talk to me about him separately though. So I can understand better. |
| 31:46.49 | mikebledsoe | I say this because what? ah my isis. Okay well I suspect that the media in the future. The mainstream media is gonna start trying to talk about deset people who are doing decentralized things forming decentralized communities. They're gonna be considered isolationist and. You know they're gonna try to you know, burn them. But ah, they're racist. Yeah,, they're already doing it. You're racist if you don't want to participate in this this narrative that we have going On. You must be a racist trumper and you can't be Trusted. We're gonna have to. |
| 32:08.38 | Max Shank | They're racists. |
| 32:22.50 | mikebledsoe | You know, hold some trials at some point down the road because of you. |
| 32:26.69 | Max Shank | It's just ah, a new agey fancy way of saying you're the devil. We don't listen to that guy at all. It's it's an ad hommonym censorship I mean it's so obvious once you filter it down to the real meaning of what's going on and if you're not even willing to have a discussion. |
| 32:32.29 | mikebledsoe | A. |
| 32:43.53 | Max Shank | And sell somebody on an idea and you have to force an idea upon someone is it really that good of an idea I mean if you need to spend billions and billions of dollars marketing your drugs are they really like all that good. You know it has no marketing for it whatsoever. Cocaine. Ecstasy marijuana psilocybin guess what people do shitloads of with no marketing whatsoever. All those things so if something is really good. People will find out about it as long as they are free to communicate. |
| 33:20.58 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, what? what were you wanting I agree what were you wanting me to explain separately. You only said right out. |
| 33:20.92 | Max Shank | Freely with one another. |
| 33:25.83 | Max Shank | Ah, okay, so decentralization of currency and banking. Let's say versus or alongside decentralization of other aspects. So let's say food. Education maybe even governance because that's ah, that's a tricky thing right? How do you? really How do you live in America without participating in America. |
| 33:54.95 | mikebledsoe | But well governance is at the core of all decentralization. So That's the that is how are we going? What are we? What are we agreeing or how are we agreeing on the decisions we're going to make as a group. You know what are the rules that we're gonna abide by what are what are our values? um. |
| 34:16.31 | Max Shank | We already have a perfect method for that. We have lobbyists who pay the politicians to decide what kind of laws they want to exercise over the people and then. Over time. The people have less and less authority over their lives. It's perfect system. |
| 34:34.63 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it works. Yeah, just shut up and go home. Don't don't go outside. Ah so the but let's talk about this so you want me to talk about currency and then talk about food as examples of this I think I think currency. |
| 34:47.94 | Max Shank | Sure just just ah, make them separate. |
| 34:54.25 | mikebledsoe | Which one should I start with the food might be make the most sense I think it's people can put their eyes on it and so decentralizing your food I'm involved in a project that is decentralizing food at this point and so um, there both. |
| 35:07.69 | Max Shank | For yourself or for lots of people. |
| 35:13.59 | mikebledsoe | So so this is what decentralization is it's about me my my objective is to create as much. Um, value for myself as possible and that is true value being ah my lifestyle. You know my my ability to critically think is valuable having a roof over my head is valuable the community I hang out with is valuable. The things that are of true value is I want to create as much value in my life. Ah as possible and. If I do that? Well enough I can then distribute some of that value outside of myself and so ah in a decentralized food network. For instance I'm gonna just give some hypotheticals because this is this is happening around. Awesome Texas right now. So some of it's hypothetical because it's in the. Plan and it hasn't completely been executed yet. But these things these are things that are in the process. So say that there's a twenty acre farm over here a sixty acre farm over here 200 over here five over here. Everybody has the ability to ah grow all sorts of stuff and. What you do is is you grow enough to where if you couldn't leave your own farm. You're good. You may not have all the shit you want. You're not going to get you know I don't I I have lamb but I don't have any beef and so and a decentralized model with food is we would then exchange. Locally with other farms now then it extends beyond that even fewer items might get exchanged between regions and we're also sharing information so we're farming in Texas someone else might be farming in Louisiana or California and we're exchanging. Not just goods and services but information as well instantly on what's working. What's not working and so in this yeah I mean we're not going to talk about economics as you know as a part of it but ah it. |
| 37:12.33 | Max Shank | Um, so it's kind of like bartering. |
| 37:24.27 | mikebledsoe | There's an so this is where I was thinking about timing money into it which is now I'm I'm like interlacing the 2 already which I didn't want to do but I was trying to stay away from that so the but I think that the the way that currency is going the decentralization decentralization of currency is making this possible. The other thing that's making this possible is daws decentralized autonomous organizations so you mentioned earlier that people need to exercise trust in order to save calories and so that's actually that's one of the big reasons that there's centralized power right now and dows actually help. Decentralized governance so daws are are basically governance models that are executed with smart contracts if this then that so right now if you and I go into a contract with each other and I say I'm gonna give you. Money for this service or whatever and then you don't do it and or or maybe you do it and I don't pay you. What's your recourse you then need to go to a court and then you need to so on and so forth. So as technology is advancing. We don't need a court to verify that something was completed or not there is there is a smart machine that is watching I mean depends on the service but but to make it easy to understand because this will extrapolate out to like farming. Um, if. You complete a project that we can track on your computer and you do it and you hit the complete button now. Automatically, the money is sent if I want to dispute it. There's really nothing I can do and that's possible because we're not using banks anymore and I'm not going to go dispute it and create a legal issue out of this. It just is and so. In the early days of dows which we're in There's going to be some stuff where people set up some rules and then they regret setting up those rules and then they're like oh we need to think this further out we didn't consider this and they're going to have to update things as they go along. It's going to become very sophisticated. And these rules aren't being drafted by lawyers lawyers are pretty much the people that are running and governing the world right now and like you were saying earlier. They use all sorts of tricky language. It doesn't make any sense to the layperson. It's very confusing and you can pretty much if you're a good lawyer. You could. And trap anybody in anything kind of like the Irs can basically you know if you follow all the rules as you see fit. You're probably going to be wrong or they could make you wrong if they really wanted to so in. |
| 40:11.22 | mikebledsoe | With dow's decentralized autonomous organizations which are run on the blockchain trust becomes unnecessary. You don't have to trust what someone says it just is um so last you there a second. How long were you gone? Okay, not not long at all. Ah, so yeah, the doubt dows are beginning to They're not going to completely eradicate the necessity for trust, but the future we won't have operating agreements in the future. |
| 00:04.83 | Max Shank | I'm back um, 3 seconds yeah |
| 40:49.56 | mikebledsoe | It'll be your business will be a dow and. |
| 00:26.10 | Max Shank | Well, it will still be an operating agreement. It'll just be executed by computer software. So it's software as a service basically which is responsible for a ton of efficiency. |
| 40:59.79 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 41:07.28 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and with the blockchain software with Blockchain is basically recorded everywhere instantly and so you can't go fuck around with it and that's what makes it where it's it's like oh people are fallible. The legal system is prone to fuckery. But. |
| 00:44.58 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 41:27.20 | mikebledsoe | Over time. The dows are going to become more and more solid more and more useful and their use cases are going to expand and so um, what I see a future where the dows we talked about this. We have the farms. We talked about this like a year ago yeah and the. |
| 01:15.78 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 41:45.78 | mikebledsoe | The currency is decentralizing the same way if I buy if I buy bitcoin but I want ethereum or you have ethereum and we want to make an exchange I can quickly and easily convert my bitcoin to ethereum and then exchange with you and then I can take. You give me ethereum and I could exchange it over to bitcoin it was it used to be.. Yeah yeah, um, and so what I see is that people will join. They'll be using so particular currencies based on their values. |
| 01:40.38 | Max Shank | Provided someone else wants what we're selling right. |
| 42:23.50 | mikebledsoe | And if I want to exchange with somebody inside my value group. We all agree that we like to farm regeneratively and so on and so forth. Yeah let's just get on the same currency. We'll make it easy. Ah, each organization has their own dow each farm has its own dow that also can. Plug into another dao and so there there can become there can become hierarchy I think there will be really cool hierarchies that are designed with das and what's gonna happen is ah I'm gonna be making this food over here and you're making your food over there and or maybe. And then another guy has a solar farm down the road and he's delivering batteries to people who don't have space for solar so you know that's the decentralization of energy and so and all this is running on 1 cryptocurrency. That are multiple daalas plugged into a greater dao and if this happens then this happens someone is signaled. Oh this guy is low on energy that this guy delivers it and then there's ah the currency you can see the current start to work there and ah a current is always moving. And so the the system we're existing in right now it can take days for money to transfer. It's it's all these weird bureaucratic administrative steps that we got to go through in order for this or that to happen accountants. And bookkeepers those jobs those are jobs of the past. Those are not gonna be They're gonna they're gonna look very different or become unnecessary. They'll be It'll be more of like a reporting thing. Um, and so. |
| 03:43.91 | Max Shank | The. |
| 44:16.47 | mikebledsoe | Because what's going to happen is. |
| 03:50.36 | Max Shank | It seems like you have more ah control over what's going on but it it seems a little bit less efficient because you don't have the same economies of scale. |
| 44:27.75 | mikebledsoe | You're not going to have the same economies of scale. Ah and well and that's not that's not necessarily. Yeah, you're not going to accumulate. It's going to reduce the amount of of Deca billionaires. |
| 04:05.67 | Max Shank | Um, it's kind of like um self-reliance. Well so I like to think in extremes. |
| 04:17.76 | Max Shank | Well, it's just going to reduce your individual efficiency. So I like to reduce things to exaggerated Exc Extreme extremes. Ah for fun and for clarity and so I think of the ultimate decentralization like we've talked about is you run your own farm. |
| 44:50.25 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 04:37.51 | Max Shank | You run your own solar farm. You have ah a plot of land on a River all your own so you can make everything you need to make but the more you are relying on yourself. You have to have less. |
| 45:23.13 | mikebledsoe | M. |
| 04:56.34 | Max Shank | Um, sophistication and complexity right? if your computer breaks down and you don't know how to fix a computer you're screwed. So What's the solution is it to learn how to fix a computer in addition to being a farmer or is it to live without a computer which ah. Is probably good in some ways and in other ways it's it's far more difficult so you just have less efficiency and less overall power. Um, if you're reliant on a smaller group so you don't have the efficiency through economies of scale. |
| 45:49.83 | mikebledsoe | Well, a lot of those things are. |
| 45:56.68 | mikebledsoe | Well, and ah if you Google decentralized network. So the the idea of decentralization that that word was made you popular in the IT community so ah now I can install a network inside of my house. It's highly decentralized. |
| 05:37.18 | Max Shank | The here. |
| 46:15.82 | mikebledsoe | And everything just flows and I can be on one side of my house and I I get perfect connectivity and I don't have to hop from router to router and all that stuff so decentralized networks. Um, the way it works is 1 thing could go down and it doesn't impact everything else. |
| 05:58.68 | Max Shank | The. |
| 46:32.84 | mikebledsoe | But everything else can pick up the slack for that 1 thing that went down so in your in your case where you're talking about the farmer whose computer breaks or whatever. He's not isolated. There are still people who are going to specialize. There are people in his community that are specialists and computers down the road and then all he has to do is flash up the bat symbol. |
| 06:06.92 | Max Shank | And. |
| 46:52.27 | mikebledsoe | And says you know I have this issue and so that's something where like we're talking about different specializations there and so you. |
| 06:27.30 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 06:34.57 | Max Shank | But that's where we get our efficiency from is through that comparative advantage.. That's why the whole concept of money in the beginning was so damn Useful. Ah, some people say money is the root of all Evil I think it's probably more greed is ah the root of some. Evil stuff that happens but the advantage of money is if you are a baker and I'm a candlestick maker and I still want bread but you don't want any candlesticks I can still get bread. |
| 47:30.49 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and so decentralization doesn't make that that makes that even more possible look. We've got billions of people on the planet. We don't need 1 manufacturer of 1 thing in order for it to be really good. There's there could be many many and. |
| 07:20.15 | Max Shank | To and and I'm not advocating for that at all that there should be like 1 1 person who makes all the food. |
| 47:49.72 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so I'm not saying we should or shouldn't but a decentralization doesn't mean that what the the main thing the benefit of the decentralization that I see is in a centralized model. We have single points of failure so you know there's 3 just as ah, ah this isn't totally accurate, but there's there's in ah in a centralized model and a centralized model like let's just assume that there's very few Usda. |
| 07:46.44 | Max Shank | Do you mean multiple points of failure in a decentralized model in a sense. Okay, got it. |
| 48:28.52 | mikebledsoe | Butchering facilities. 1 guy gets covid in one facility and now it completely stops up all operations and it breaks down the entire supply chain to where the farmer has to start euthanizing pigs because and this is this actually happened yet. These farmers have to start euhanizing pigs because the cost of keeping them. Alive isn't worth it because they got to keep feeding them. Plus they got more pigs coming. They're being grown and when a pig gets a certain age. You don't want to eat that meat anyway. So like there's like this very specific. |
| 08:18.48 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 08:26.22 | Max Shank | Wild. |
| 49:01.57 | mikebledsoe | Way of doing things and there's single points of failure in a centralized model and a decentralized model that one farmer could get I've gotten Covid and kind of fucked up. You know say he gets some some type of weird plague thing going on and and then and then the rest of it doesn't ah impact the entire. |
| 08:47.12 | Max Shank | I Totally yeah I Totally understand that I think for like. |
| 49:20.42 | mikebledsoe | Global community it impacts a very small person 1 person or very small group of people and the ability for these other ah because you're never disconnected in ah in a decentralized model. There's always interaction with the outside. It's just. |
| 08:55.98 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 49:39.60 | mikebledsoe | Just not centralized I might have instead of I always I only have a you know one way to get in that of my neighborhood I now have 20 and it take it may take me longer to get from point a to point b but I'll never get stuck in traffic. |
| 09:32.44 | Max Shank | It's kind of like insurance. It costs you more money than not having insurance unless something happens yet. |
| 50:02.92 | mikebledsoe | Setting it up is expensive. You know it's it's a time it takes time energy. Um I'm doing things with decentralized currencies decentralized food. Ah, ah, I'm talking my buddy Jesse about doing decentralized energy. He's working on that. Um, I think that's also important and so really focusing on on on getting all these things done is a huge investment of time energy money right now. But when something goes wrong. When there is when steaks are at $100 I want to go get a stak. It's me a hundred dollars because russia's not exporting the ingredients we need for fertilizer right now. Ah then I'm not going to have to pay a hundred bucks for my steak I I just go over to the farm and I pick up my food. Because I already contributed already made my thing I'm already I yeah we yeah we could we could eat steak exactly and so um, yeah, it's not cheap, but it is. |
| 10:34.62 | Max Shank | Or maybe you start selling steak and you start eating something else. |
| 10:47.40 | Max Shank | That's why I like thinking of it like insurance. Well it makes sense to me. Yeah well and you have to assign some probability of risk in your mind. |
| 51:15.31 | mikebledsoe | It is valuable. It's ah it's a you have to think further out and ahead in the future than most people are willing to do. |
| 11:00.65 | Max Shank | Like what is the probability that x will happen. What is the probability that y will happen and we talked about this in our in an earlier episode too. You have to ask yourself like what is the probability that I won't have access to food for three months six months one year and um. Everybody has a different perspective on that That's why thinking of this like insurance is helpful for me because in when times are good. It's going to be less efficient. But if there's some ah risky occurrence that happens. |
| 52:04.34 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, if something terrible happens if something if supply chains get fucked up and all that then we're living like Kings right by comparison. But here's the thing but it is already happening. |
| 11:39.10 | Max Shank | Then it's going to be well worth it. |
| 11:44.90 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 11:50.80 | Max Shank | But when it's not happening. You're not working as efficiently as you could and you're outlaying more capital to set it up. Well I mean. |
| 52:24.30 | mikebledsoe | So Here's the thing is there's canaries in the coal mine and there's very few of there's very few of us that are picking up on it I've been picking up on it for a long time Decade I Read Omnivore's dilemma and you look at that and I and I look at what's happening with the farming and I go. Yeah, I'm willing to invest a lot of energy in a farming even if nothing ever happens to the supply chain stays exactly the same I Still want to do this because ah the food that we have access to right now is not very nutrient dense and it's not it. It's already Poor. So The thing if I'm going to invest in my health then I'm going to invest in the farm If things stay the same but we all know the experts all agree and this is widely agreed upon whether you're on the left right? Whatever is. Soil is being degraded. You know there's only what 50 or 60 crops left that can be farmed on the soil the way it's being done so that every day that goes by the average nutrient nutrient density of our food. Is going down. It's going down. It's going down so I look at that and I go look even if we don't have a huge fertilizer shortage which is going to lead to skyrocketing food prices and rights in the streets and all that even if that doesn't happen I Want to do this anyway. Ah, the idea that something like that might happen definitely has spurred a little more urgency around the matter because I've been thinking about this since 2011 and it's 2022 and I'm just now getting to it because before it there was no. |
| 13:29.32 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 54:14.50 | mikebledsoe | There was no potential danger like oh this is coming now. It's just a slow trip. You know we're frogs in the boiling water. You know, just. |
| 13:56.70 | Max Shank | I think we should talk about food next week because what you're telling me now is a very different reason for decentralizing your food or ah taking more control over the lifecycle of your food and I think it's extremely valid. |
| 54:39.40 | mikebledsoe | Well, that's the case with everything that's the case with energy. That's the same with currency. It's It's not like it's not like I'm buying bitcoin or other cryptos because the dollar might fail that might cause someone to like oh fuck I need to get some now. |
| 14:15.94 | Max Shank | Because you. |
| 54:57.45 | mikebledsoe | But the reality is is we've got we've had ah you know we came off the gold standard in the 70 s and the value of the dollar is slowly degraded. It's the same thing as the food. It's just slowly happening. We're just watching it. But it's so slow that you don't notice and you don't feel the sense of urgency to make change. And so I think that I don't think we need to cover food necessarily again, but your your view of it being insurance is is that's only part of the conversation of like the benefits of decentralization. Ah, because. |
| 15:06.53 | Max Shank | The. |
| 55:35.19 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it's just I think it creates a healthier system. Overall. |
| 15:14.32 | Max Shank | And maybe not as efficient but healthier. |
| 55:44.20 | mikebledsoe | Um, I Well when you say efficient I I think I think it'll be more energy efficient Overall like right now we've got food being shipped from chile and. |
| 15:24.99 | Max Shank | Energy in versus energy out. |
| 56:03.38 | mikebledsoe | Steaks from Australia New Zealand and we're having it to make an impossible burger. You're having to get some ingredients from 20 different countries. That's highly centralized and inefficient. It's only efficient financially. It's not efficient. It's not efficient use of. |
| 15:52.74 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 56:22.19 | mikebledsoe | Oil. It's not the efficient use of people's time and huh. |
| 15:59.82 | Max Shank | But it has to be Efficient. It has to be efficient use of all those things The idea is that the amount of energy to produce it locally including everything has to be more. Than it would be to import it from somewhere else unless there's like dirty dealings or something like that. But you know if you're a company you're going to try to maximize efficiency. |
| 56:42.90 | mikebledsoe | And well well well part of it's cultural right? and part of it's cultural like it. It would be more energy efficient to get your food all locally. Um but the thing is is. You're not going to get people to farm because they expect to get more money almost everyone use 95% and now and now we got like yeah computer programmers in the city and and whatever fucking jobs are happening in the city going. Keep going back to computer programmers. |
| 16:38.41 | Max Shank | Um, well almost everybody used to be farmers and but and and and poor. |
| 57:20.94 | mikebledsoe | Only because you before the show. Ah, that's ah, that's pretty much it they like the most like the most useful people to me I Do you make shit. |
| 16:55.57 | Max Shank | Um, in our in our in our community. There's only farmers and computer programmers. You can be a farmer or a computer programmer or get the fuck out. |
| 57:40.17 | mikebledsoe | You make awesome software and can you feed me then I'll be your friend. |
| 17:19.46 | Max Shank | That does cover a tremendous amount of bases. Actually you know plumber Electrician there are other things that are similar to but you need like a tech guy and a food guy. Basically. |
| 57:48.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 57:55.11 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, tech guy and a food guy is it right? because that's all technology. The plumbers are you know they're working with technology. You know. |
| 17:38.60 | Max Shank | But I wouldn't trust a computer software guy to do my plumbing or the or the electrical well and that's what I mean you could figure out anything. It's ah it's so. |
| 58:07.24 | mikebledsoe | No no could I figure it out. |
| 17:57.48 | Max Shank | Amazing to be able to exercise the benefit of comparative advantage in a community whether that community is large or small. The reason for currency is so you don't have to rely on the barter system which necessitates that you have something the other guy wants. |
| 58:41.37 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 18:17.80 | Max Shank | And you want something of his so I definitely agree with you. The quality of food is questionable in a lot of places and inflation is a very sinister tax that is hidden and really. Fucks The bottom percentage of the population the worst. Ah by far. So ah, you know I try not to think in good and evil but that shit's pretty fucking evil. |
| 59:03.23 | mikebledsoe | Totally, it's like the ah. Ah I saw was I saw a meme a few weeks ago that was like Biden saying we're not gonna tax the poor rolling in tax the rich and then they print off a shitload of money. It's like yeah a fucking snake. Um, but here's something we haven't talked about but. |
| 19:01.42 | Max Shank | Um, yeah, it's yeah, inflation's not good. |
| 59:30.78 | mikebledsoe | that I that I've begun to experience and I think we both kind of do this is neither one of us optimize for finances. We really value happiness and connection and. Like was it ah a year ago or more you took a lot of time off of Instagram you said? Yeah I'll make a little less money. Yeah I'll make a little less money but you know it's not worth my happiness. |
| 19:31.66 | Max Shank | Yeah, like 2 years but if I hadn't prioritized but if I hadn't prioritized wealth before that I wouldn't have been in that position to do it either. |
| 01:00:07.23 | mikebledsoe | Totally yeah you you thought I had Yeah, that's maybe to have I mean to have the same exact lifestyle you have then sure. But when I think about. |
| 19:51.20 | Max Shank | If money is the goal then I think you're missing the point I think if freedom is the goal then money is a good tool for that. Just like exercise and language are good tools that can facilitate freedom. |
| 01:00:30.71 | mikebledsoe | Well I think people people do get caught up on the money equals freedom piece and the truth is is that if I took away all your money could you still be free for sure. Yeah, but you it doesn't. |
| 20:18.16 | Max Shank | Yeah, free to sleep in the gutter until I figured things out. No, you'd figure it out. Yeah you I would figure it out I will say this though. Ah because I don't want to sound like ah super asinine I mean the reality is. |
| 01:00:49.30 | mikebledsoe | But not the same thing. Yeah freedom is freedom and money is money. |
| 20:38.80 | Max Shank | Money won't solve all your problems but it will solve many of them instantly that a poor person might agonize over. Ah you won't necessarily be happier. What's that. |
| 01:01:07.65 | mikebledsoe | totally totally I'm not saying I solve problems. Well they that they've they've done studies where more money this is I mean the studies over a decade old. So the numbers may seem a little small, especially with inflation. But they said that? Ah what they looked at was getting a pay raise making more money actually increased people's happiness up to $75000 after $75000 no change in happiness happiness didn't go up. But it it did actually tend to go down a little bit and so yeah, there's in seventy five Thousand ten fifteen years ago it's pretty much talking about Maslow's hierarchy of needs is you have all those things you're experiencing some safe you probably can afford a home in a place where you feel. Ah, somewhat safe. You have a shelter you're able to eat food and whatever so 75 hours after that no more but I bring up the happiness thing because do we really need to. Keep on going down the path of ah, having more and more specialization advancing technology and innovation and all this stuff that is happening at at a very fast rate with the centralization of power and by the way it actually might advance more quickly in a decentralized model. If we look at open source software. That's ah, that's a good example of of ah of a decentralized system where there are a lot of people contributing separately and doing their own experiments but like I use an operating system on my phone that is. Much more secure and a lot more advanced than ah than Android you know it it utilizes android but this company that created the operating system I use. It's open source people are contributing to it from all over the world for free and then Android then later adopts it. And then everyone else gets it because it was the the advancements are being made in ah in a decentralized model but going back to the happiness piece is you know I could have a shitload of money I could be flying in private jets to my 5 different homes around the world and all that but also which. |
| 22:57.26 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:03:41.20 | mikebledsoe | I Could still do in a decentralized model that type Lifestyle doesn't completely go away there. But if I say hey I'm gonna take a pay cut and I'm going to live more simply and I'm gonna spend more time on the farm and I'm gonna and I'm gonna do more varied Activities. So this past weekend I did a little bit of gardening I did some work on the house I did some home improvement stuff hung out with a friend of mine to do all of it and I felt incredibly happy and incredibly wealthy. Um in that space. But if I. |
| 23:48.29 | Max Shank | Sounds like that's going to really interfere with your hustling and grinding though and you're giving 110 I I think it's good. You bring that up too because not only are people poisoned by the news but they're poisoned by. |
| 01:04:22.21 | mikebledsoe | That's right. |
| 24:08.26 | Max Shank | The false idols of culture in general. So people chase things that they are made to believe will bring them satisfaction and and then I'll be happy if I if I get blank then I'll be happy if I do blank then I'll be happy. And the reality is people are are different I know that's an outlandish thing to say people are different but we are and people have different wants and desires for a lot of different reasons. We have different upbringings and who's to say. That you're better off working at something you hate for 20 years so you can retire before you're 40 or doing something that you just purely enjoyed doing because you would do it anyway and making enough money but working until you're 80 years old ah, and there's not a right answer to that we want to especially the guru types and the leader types they want to say this is this is the way but it's like is it really the way like I don't know for you. Man. |
| 01:05:44.31 | mikebledsoe | By the way max and I are coming out with a product. It's called the way. |
| 25:25.74 | Max Shank | This is called this is the way do it or else. |
| 01:05:53.49 | mikebledsoe | Ah I think you brought up an interesting thing is because a lot of what people desire is based on what they seen on media right? No one knew that they wanted that car or this or that and so I mean if we go far enough back and. |
| 25:45.74 | Max Shank | It's all about sex people look. It's food and survival and then it's sex and sex is directly proportional to your position in the hierarchy and Ferrari's and glittery tits are the new currency. |
| 01:06:26.63 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, totally now if we look at the influencer culture and so we go on Instagram and we look at ah, what's his name ty lopez and. |
| 26:00.63 | Max Shank | For your position in the hierarchy. It's all this stuff is deeper than language. |
| 26:09.98 | Max Shank | The. |
| 01:06:41.83 | mikebledsoe | You know he's got the lamborghinis and the books and he's got this lifestyle thing going on all the glitzing lamb a lot of that was a lot of that was based off of hollywood so like people saw hollywood stars and people wanted to be like the the actctors and actresses back when you know television. And movie stars were the only influencers you know the I think you heard about that on that that podcast that we both listened to you talked about? Ah, there was only like 5 influencers in the world that that back in the 50 s or whatever it was or 60 s. And then yeah, yeah, like there's only a handful people that are known by millions or billions of people and now there's a shitload of people that are known by so many people and the influencers have become decentralized one. |
| 26:54.66 | Max Shank | When we were talking about like Elvis I think right? Yeah right. |
| 01:07:38.70 | mikebledsoe | We added channels to the television. You know we went from print media to video media audio video then it was internet Instagram Youtube and now there's there's more influencers than we can count and so that's decentralized so I think that. In the centralization of influencer culture. There was only a few ways to live your life. You saw their lifestyle on you know the lifestyles of the rich and famous and you go oh I want to have that mansion in that pool and all this but now like I talk to a lot of people that are my age and younger. And they look at that kind of stuff and they just kind of go hey and there's definitely ah, a lot of young people that are doing the glitz and glam and all that. But it's it's becoming less popular and it's actually made fun of a whole lot. It's the. They become comical means it's like yeah that is true, but everything's decentralizing. So now I you know I may follow some influencers that I like that that share my own values and so I think we're gonna see um where I think we're gonna see a lot healthier. Social environment with the decentralization of the influencers as well because I think where I think we've had to go through a point where everyone realizes oh I can be an influencer and they become extremely egotistical and it becomes it's not. |
| 28:39.42 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:09:08.99 | mikebledsoe | It's such a weird thing and I I think that a lot of people got fucked up by that in the last decade but I think on the other side of that. It's growing pains on the other side of that everyone kind of goes. Oh yeah, everyone's connected to everybody and everybody's unique and I don't need to be like anybody else or. You know I want to I want to be a part of this crew over here I don't need to to try to kill myself to live up to some fake standard that I'm noticing over here. So I think that with with well with tech. Well but what one of the things that technology is really doing and ah. |
| 29:11.38 | Max Shank | I Hope people are thinking that way that sounds awesome. |
| 01:09:46.92 | mikebledsoe | Bitcoin's a good example of this is transparency is you can see all the transactions between all the wallets anytime you want and so the well I mean my only my email is tied to my my wallet. |
| 29:24.13 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 29:32.34 | Max Shank | Doesn't leave much for privacy though. But that's okay I guess. |
| 01:10:05.97 | mikebledsoe | So you wouldn't really be able to figure out who I was if I didn't want to be found Um, ah and you guessed it. Ah so but um. |
| 29:45.34 | Max Shank | Mike Underscore blood so at Gmail I wonder who this is. |
| 29:53.82 | Max Shank | Who could this possibly be. |
| 01:10:21.26 | mikebledsoe | The thing is is we've had an incredible level of transparency in our culture but it's been one-sided Only only intelligence agencies were allowed to have ultimate ah transparency you know there's anyone can go look at any my shit. |
| 30:10.19 | Max Shank | M. |
| 01:10:39.32 | mikebledsoe | I mean if they want to be in my computer and my phone right now they can do it and there's nothing I can do about it and they want to freeze my bank account they can freeze my bank account. They want to look at my books they can look at my but they can do whatever they want we already have it's ah I think it's a Peter Diamandas ah is like. |
| 30:17.90 | Max Shank | Um, amazing wild gnarly. The power of the stick. |
| 01:10:58.16 | mikebledsoe | Like the future is already here. It's just not widely distributed yet or maybe that's a occurs while and and the same thing happens with transparency transparent 100% pure transparency already exists. You're already being watched if they want to watch you. |
| 30:36.70 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 01:11:17.13 | mikebledsoe | They're already collecting the data the shit is there now it just needs to be widely distributed because the benefit of this massive transparency. That's coming is the transparency will start going both ways. So the. I think Snowden was one of these guys that that started this is people like oh I think we need more to have more transparency with the intelligence agencies. Let's see about that. Where's the money flowing. Well if they don't control the currency anymore we can start seeing where the money flows at a governmental level. Okay. Things all of a sudden become very unpopular when we can start seeing how money is flowing all over the world and it's not hidden or being mislabeled or whatever it is so it's it's one it's one of those things. It's kind of like. I really enjoy my privacy I'm gonna do my best to maintain it and I would rather live in a world where everything was 100% transparent than 100% ah than ah well I'd rather be in 100% private but we can't. We can't put pandawar back in the box right? and the yeah so it's like the the next best thing is for it to be a 2 wo-way street is that there's ultimate transparency. |
| 32:09.89 | Max Shank | In a lot of ways That's true. |
| 32:18.86 | Max Shank | I think that's an important thing to remember with everything that we're talking about is there is no ultimate final best solution except for except for live and let live and I don't mean final solution like final solution. Ah, that that phrase is not cool anymore after that 1 german guy. But just you you don't know ah hit Hitler. You remember that guy. |
| 01:13:07.87 | mikebledsoe | I Don't know what you're talking about no fill me in how yeah I heard about him. |
| 32:55.78 | Max Shank | Yeah, his final solution was to kill all the non Aryans now I never thought that was a good idea and fortunately a lot of other folks also did not think that was a good idea. But ah anyway, my point is. |
| 01:13:23.71 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 01:13:35.80 | mikebledsoe | How does have to do with live and let live. |
| 33:13.42 | Max Shank | There is not well what I'm saying is live and let live is a really good way to live but everything we're talking about. It's just searching for a marginally better way if you spend your whole life looking for the ultimate Best way to live. |
| 01:13:50.53 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 33:32.47 | Max Shank | You probably won't spend your life living and doing things that bring you joy I mean I'm a very contemplative guy. Personally I find it really fun to just sit and think about things and sketch stuff down. |
| 01:13:59.91 | mikebledsoe | Dude, it's gonna suck. |
| 33:51.68 | Max Shank | That no other human will ever see because it's way too outrageous and I find I find that I find that super interesting. It's It's a fun game. Ah I also like to play tennis and dojujitsu and things like that where I'm not living in my head and I'm just in that flow state. |
| 01:14:25.00 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 34:11.38 | Max Shank | Um, but if you spend all time analyzing like am I living the best way possible am I living the most secure way possible. That's it's kind of like buying fire insurance. But then agonizing over whether or not your house is going to burn every single day. |
| 01:14:53.14 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 34:30.79 | Max Shank | It's like checking the value of your home every day. It's like checking the value I mean it's just like ah it's ah, electing to give yourself some sort of schizophrenia. Basically it's It's not a really healthy way to live The reason we're talking about this stuff is. I Think to give you some sort of understanding of how things are and maybe how things are becoming and how to make yourself as free as possible as these things change. You know I. Have enjoyed this conversation so far a lot because I'm ah kind of an Assholeish Devil's advocate if I don't understand something I will just ask the most poignant autistic question Possible. So It's a lot of fun because I know that. |
| 01:15:46.12 | mikebledsoe | Perfect. |
| 35:26.63 | Max Shank | You won't take it personally and it's also a topic that I I really haven't been able to grasp very well. Um I understand how you can I don't know actually because um. |
| 01:15:59.99 | mikebledsoe | You do you understand it better today. |
| 35:46.31 | Max Shank | The the main thing I don't understand is what the staying power of different cryptocurrencies is I understand the value of ah autonomous contracts. Basically. |
| 01:16:19.28 | mikebledsoe | I Got you. |
| 01:16:27.29 | mikebledsoe | Oh. |
| 36:05.10 | Max Shank | So like basically you have software and an escrow account like you know I lend you ah x amount of dollars you put y amount of dollars in an escrow account if you don't pay your payment I automatically draw on your thing that part makes sense. It's. Kind of like software as a service. what ah what I don't understand is how to value a cryptocurrency relative to another cryptocurrency or relative to the dollar. Um, but I also ah don't like the idea that. More can be printed any old time. So that's why so far I've focused on investing in companies that create a profit because it it doesn't really matter what currency they're dealing in. As long as there's more energy coming out than there is coming in and that's easier for me to understand whereas if you ask me how much f will be worth in two years I don't know if the answer is 20000 or or 0. |
| 01:17:41.47 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 37:18.80 | Max Shank | Quite frankly and and I can't understand how someone would be able to know that. |
| 01:17:46.24 | mikebledsoe | Man, there's um, there's a lot there I'm glad I'm glad that I'm glad you explained all that. So. Um, so the idea that that our entire lives from the earliest memory that we can before we understood value. We had made. We made something mean about money and for us american and probably people around the world I mean even if you're born in Mexico it's the dollar you know like the peso versus the dollar but our entire reality has formed around the dollar. So the dollar has behaved a very specific way. It's had its It's been consistent in our consciousness you know in different ways for different people. But I think that what we're gonna end up experiencing is it's a paradigm shift and so there's ah in in like all good paradigm shifts explaining. It is practically impossible. It's something that. I I think that for me. Ah what I've had to do is I've dug so much into all the different information I I look at how it works I've seen how it's behaved I look at the patterns and my I've loosened up my mind around the dollar being. The thing that everything else is compared against and it is um I mean I think we talked about this in the last year or 2 is like I've had a hard time going. Okay, we're not comparing things if we don't have a standard currency then man it's just going to be chaos. Really won't work. People are looking for stability. Um, so I think there's an opportunity for a paradigm shift around there being a single currency. Um, there's also people who were trying to There's a there's a gold backed cryptocurrency like ah you know a coin. Is an ounce isn't you know that's what it is it just is and when you when when you trade it there are your reserves of gold are somewhere and if you want it in your hand you can you know you could figure that out so there are things like that happening um a lot of people think and i. I tend to agree that bitcoin may end up being the like the reserve currency. Um, it's definitely a currency that now there's times that I believe that it won't be able to exchange in high volumes and that. |
| 40:00.40 | Max Shank | Definitely maybe. |
| 01:20:28.51 | mikebledsoe | It's expensive to trade and so only the wealthy will hold it so like like the classes of people will actually divide up based on part of it. It would would be like you know it's it's expensive to buy an Nft with ethereum compared to Mineero. For instance because the gas fees are higher so they basically train like ah like a transaction fee and so um, people will kind of like put themselves. They'll use currency that makes sense to them and they'll. |
| 40:28.70 | Max Shank | A. |
| 01:21:05.57 | mikebledsoe | Be a little bit of a hierarchy that starts there. Um, but I mean in the end the the law of economic like when the primary laws of economics with supply and demand is really how it's going to go is what's the supply of it and what's the demand of it and enough people agree to be using a particular currency. It's going to cause it to do that and. I think it's going to take some Ai technology for us to that's the paradigm shift is it more likely is it's there's going to be a machine that can compute at high enough speeds that just kind of says that this much bitcoin is worth this much. Ethereum is. This much monro and whatever you're holding and you want to make an exchange it. We're gonna we're gonna make it work and I know that there's companies that are already working on that. Um, and you know there's this really cool sign here in Austin because I'm in like. Crypto land here right? So it's well they just had the bitcoin conference last weekend I had a few friends there and other yeah. |
| 41:38.32 | Max Shank | Here. It's even crazier in Miami and Florida yeah, don't get me wrong I love I love the idea of a decentralized currency that's based on demand and not based on. Ah. |
| 01:22:22.79 | mikebledsoe | Right? Yeah I mean as long as the authorities control that as long as people put their faith in the authorities more than they do and people then we have problems but there's a sign in Austin. |
| 41:58.29 | Max Shank | Blind faith in an Authority's ability to control their money printing and their grubby hands. |
| 42:14.29 | Max Shank | Ideologically I'm like a hundred but percent bought in already with that idea. |
| 01:22:43.79 | mikebledsoe | there's there's well There's this there's this one company that keeps on putting up signs in Austin they're black signs with white letters. It's always I I forget the name of the website but 1 is bitcoin bitcoin is a revolution. Ah. |
| 42:28.22 | Max Shank | Bad marketing. |
| 01:22:59.74 | mikebledsoe | Hiding in plain sight. There's another one that's ah ah bitcoin isn't and is not an investment. It's a vote and then um. |
| 42:45.30 | Max Shank | Now that that part I understand because one of my strongest beliefs is that you vote with your dollars and you vote with your attention. Basically. |
| 01:23:18.68 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and then another sign is ah cryptocurrencies are ah is a rev cryptocurrencies something like that is a revolution disguised as a casino and so yeah. |
| 43:09.64 | Max Shank | Ah, that's one. |
| 01:23:37.48 | mikebledsoe | And so and and I think that all of those are clever and accurate. You know people are in there trading and getting in there and and they're excited about it's new technology. There's an opportunity to make shit tons of money if you want and not necessary. Well. |
| 43:26.44 | Max Shank | As long as you're in there early. |
| 01:23:56.13 | mikebledsoe | But earlier the better 100% about that. You know the best time to grow you know plant a tree was twenty years ago might as well hop in now and ah and and currencies is just one piece of this we have dows we have Nftts I've been learning a little more about Nftts recently. |
| 43:31.63 | Max Shank | There. Okay. |
| 01:24:15.91 | mikebledsoe | And well the Nft world is really you know what's getting a lot of the attention is the art but I can Nft my property and so now the the government so the the government ah holds the deed to the house right? They they. |
| 43:50.97 | Max Shank | Oh god. |
| 01:24:35.85 | mikebledsoe | Keep the the ledger and all that shit somewhere and they give me a copy of my deed and then ah but the Catholic Church used to do that and then the government took over that function because someone had to do it and they they have more power and now it's gonna become. Ah. It's because the deed and the recording of of assets is usually handled by the government if you buy a car they want your title if you own you know they give you your registration. They're going to handle the deed to your house I can nft my property. |
| 44:41.96 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:25:14.35 | mikebledsoe | And I can sell it to you and the smart contract says well when max sends this money here then this triggers that he gets this nft there and then it's recorded on the blockchain and it's inarguable and so the we just killed a ton of. Administrative load I mean it took me thirty days to close on my fucking house. It should take 1 and or maybe 5 you know you want to get your inspections and all that shit. But the majority of those. Yeah no shit. |
| 45:15.22 | Max Shank | Um, well look otherwise what are what are those realtors going to do otherwise though come on what about the poor realtors Mike that's not cool. Dude if they could. |
| 01:25:51.50 | mikebledsoe | Ah, ah, the realtors is oh the realtors are still be employed. No you think so I know I know I know a handful of realtors. They love their shit. They love putting people on homes. |
| 45:32.10 | Max Shank | Do something else. They would be doing that I don't know I just like to make fun of realtors. No being a realtor is an amazing gig in terms of the ridiculous commission that you can get on a house it. It makes no sense whatsoever. Um. |
| 01:26:10.46 | mikebledsoe | Oh yeah. |
| 45:52.10 | Max Shank | But just to clarify I think the idea of voting with your dollars resonates with me the most and that's why I like to let markets decide instead of people that's that's why I don't like the way democracy works because. It's basically glorified mob rule right? If 51 % of us vote to rape the other forty nine then it's perfectly legal but voting with your dollars requires that both parties of every transaction gain a profit from it. And there's no coercion involved so in that regard I think vote with your dollars and then investing in a certain currency because you ah believe in it like you vote with your dollars by investing into this currency because you believe in it I think that's totally valid. Still don't know how to value it relative to other things. But I think just fundamentally and philosophically voting with your dollars and voting with your attention is maybe the best advice to give anyone because then you also won't get caught. |
| 01:27:20.81 | mikebledsoe | Um, I think if you were to. |
| 47:08.46 | Max Shank | And this idea where you think like oh this is a good Politician and this is a bad politician. It's like no forget about it vote with your dollars invest in yourself and invest your attention in things that you ah want to absorb because you will be absorbing them kind of like you said you follow. |
| 01:27:40.24 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 47:28.12 | Max Shank | Certain Gurus Um, the internet is a tool cell phone is a tool social media can be a tool or it can be a poison and whatever you're paying attention to you're gonna. Absorb that you're basically downloading information into your brain So be really mindful of how you're investing your dollars and attention. |
| 01:28:15.49 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and go check out. Um, if you one of the things that things started stopped being so mysterious when I went and read some white papers. You know, pick out a few different. Cryptocurrencies If if you want to look at something that is somewhat difficult to buy you have to jump through some hoops. Um, you know I would say Theta is something that's extremely useful that is that not only will your. |
| 48:08.80 | Max Shank | And. |
| 01:28:50.26 | mikebledsoe | You have an opportunity for the coins you hold to increase in value but will actually give you cash flow as well. The more that the service is used so the current all these currencies are tied to real business services. Most of them are actually um and so. Ah, theta being one of these is it's a video streaming service and they're getting companies like Youtube netflix a lot all these streaming services are getting on board. |
| 48:57.10 | Max Shank | Is it like buying shares in that company basically but using the coins as an avenue to do that. |
| 01:29:27.23 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so you could do that or you could do ah you could also run a node which would then earn you fuel. Yeah kind of like a miner so you'd be contributing to the network with your own resources and there's there's. |
| 49:11.32 | Max Shank | Like being a minor. Yeah. |
| 01:29:46.35 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's ways to be involved and yeah, part of it is like owning stock like it's the future stock market you know Apple should have a coin. You know you want to. It's just just new rules. New rules are that same same game and which does change the game cause. |
| 49:22.35 | Max Shank | F. |
| 49:33.60 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 01:30:04.78 | mikebledsoe | Game is pretty much defined by the rules. But. |
| 49:40.44 | Max Shank | Well, you got me convinced I just invested my retirement into Nfts is that what I was supposed to do. |
| 01:30:11.55 | mikebledsoe | I wouldn't take all of it and do that. But um I I did just I cashed out the last of my stocks last week I hold nothing but ah, the only thing I'm interested is crypto real estate and startups. So I. |
| 49:50.71 | Max Shank | I can't help poking fun because I just don't understand well enough. Oh. |
| 01:30:31.30 | mikebledsoe | I own stock I own stock in a few companies that are startups I don't not stock market. So I basically pulled my money out of the stock market 100% so I don't have a retirement fund anymore. Um, and because I mean the only benefit retirement funds is I mean there's a couple of benefits depending on which way have but like. |
| 50:09.90 | Max Shank | E O E E. |
| 50:22.73 | Max Shank | Taxes Primarily who. |
| 01:30:50.59 | mikebledsoe | Taxes is the main thing and and there is a reduction if you're doing like a life insurance policy on you know how much loss you might endear. But the. |
| 50:35.86 | Max Shank | Just a reminder to our listeners. This is not financial advice in any way. |
| 01:31:04.33 | mikebledsoe | No, not none whatsoever. We're not financial experts we ah you know I just I have fun with my money. But yeah I've I've made I've invested. That's why I buy fun. |
| 50:55.75 | Max Shank | That's why you buy funny money. |
| 01:31:23.99 | mikebledsoe | But yeah I like startups in crypto the most and then you know real estate's the least sexy but I think the most important asset anyone could ever own. |
| 51:10.72 | Max Shank | Yeah, you gotta live somewhere and there's built in scarcity just follow the 3 rules of real estate location, location location and someone's always gonna want to live there. |
| 01:31:45.30 | mikebledsoe | True that true dot let's wrap this bad boy up and we we went hard today. The final thoughts max were you aggressive or was high aggressive or were we aggressive. |
| 51:30.54 | Max Shank | Ah, it was aggressive. Um. No, the topic is um, very uncertain and because I don't understand it I feel like I just kept asking a lot of questions which is is cool. Ah, but I still. |
| 01:32:08.19 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 51:55.59 | Max Shank | You know there's a difference between understanding and explanation versus having conviction in the idea enough to bet and I think that's something um that you learn I mean life is a bunch of bets Poker is bets investing is making bets. |
| 01:32:24.64 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 52:15.49 | Max Shank | And if you don't have the conviction to bet you really don't have any conviction at All. So The proof is in the pudding for you because clearly you are putting your money where your mouth is and that's why all these phrases have lasted the test of time right? So I think you got to vote with your dollars. You got to put your money where your mouth is and ideally you want to invest in things that you understand. So if you understand them. Ah just because I don't that that doesn't matter. |
| 01:33:08.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and I think the the one of the thing when I think about you're talking about conviction and the word that I was thinking of was like oh maybe you know I think this is how I see it is groking it that is I ah. When I grok a topic is I surround it I look at it from as many angles as possible. There's a shitload of data collection going on tons of research and it's just question question question question and then when I grok something one day it occurs to me I go. |
| 53:08.13 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 01:33:46.63 | mikebledsoe | And this happened to me in 2017 it's like oh we want you to talk on a panel about decentralization I was like well I guess I'd better. Go learn about crypto so early Twenty seventeen before that when I caught a really big upswing I started researching it in a few months into researching and I go it hit me I got the. |
| 53:26.54 | Max Shank | So. |
| 01:34:04.78 | mikebledsoe | Hit that grot point where I go I get this as like oh this is the future I should buy some now but and I did and I ended up making like $30000 in less than a year from like ah. |
| 53:40.54 | Max Shank | The. |
| 01:34:23.53 | mikebledsoe | Mean I think I may put like four or $5000 in total and the. |
| 54:02.91 | Max Shank | 6 x in a year is historically an incredible investment. |
| 01:34:31.72 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah I couldn't get that anywhere else I'm like I'm looking around I'm like I didn't do that in my own business. |
| 54:12.78 | Max Shank | Well, you could you could get it somewhere else, but it's just hard to know ahead of time. That's the thing there are lots of places you could get it Well I mean there are companies you can invest in that will do that. But it's just hard to know ahead of time. |
| 01:34:43.40 | mikebledsoe | Um, you can get it at the casino. Yeah, but totally totally totally. So um, so yeah I I like to when when something piques my interest. |
| 54:30.72 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:35:02.12 | mikebledsoe | I Like to just say I want to Grot this and that means that I can I can stabilize a perspective around this I don't actually need to know everything about it because I understand the the philosophy I Understand. The the big picture how it works and then as I learn more information and I just get more and more confirmation like oh I learned this small detail about this cryptocurrency. You know that validates how I understand crypto and I keep getting upgrades to that that understanding something comes in I go. Oh you know what I didn't even know that that was possible but in the thing is the I've collected a lot of evidence. Of course you know we're all subject to the particular activating system and so. |
| 55:30.32 | Max Shank | Is that confirmation bias that you're talking about okay reticular activating system I learned so many new words when I talk with you new many new words and phrases. |
| 01:35:58.00 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, kind of yeah so you buy a red car and now you see red cars everywhere. Um, yeah, a s.. Ah yeah, there's been yeah. |
| 55:48.24 | Max Shank | I Think you hit something really good there though which was you're interested and if you're interested in some I mean look I've done pretty well for myself. But the reality is I was just more interested in the topic than almost anybody else. It's kind of like cheating it's like ah the idea of what's what's difficult. |
| 01:36:25.75 | mikebledsoe | That's true. |
| 01:36:33.72 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 56:08.10 | Max Shank | Well difficult is anything I don't want to do. But if I'm if I'm willing to happily spend hours and hour hours and hour hours a day learning ah about movement and exercise and psychology and copywriting then I'm going to. |
| 01:36:53.94 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, that makes me think about ah is it not being fair people look at other people and go. They're so good at thing it's not fair. It's like you're just not as interested. What are you interested in. You need to go be unfair somewhere else. |
| 56:27.25 | Max Shank | Completely dominate someone who is just trying to do that to earn a buck. It's not fair. So if you're interested follow that. |
| 56:41.85 | Max Shank | Um, yeah, right? Yeah I when I'm playing games I like to I like to play games where the odds are stacked against me. But when I'm in real life. |
| 01:37:11.83 | mikebledsoe | Or maybe they've just been out the thing you're interested in longer that could also be. |
| 01:37:25.88 | mikebledsoe | Totally yeah I was talking to a regenerative farmer. He says ah just always trying to increase hammock time. But if I can make my garden grove I can make the farm work for me. |
| 56:59.93 | Max Shank | I try to only play games where I have an unfair advantage because you you can You can do that. |
| 01:37:45.70 | mikebledsoe | Where you know I think a lot of people think look at something like that and they think about all the hard work That's gonna have to go into It's like now you set it up and you hamicck time permaculture. You know certain farming methods are built that way. Alright, ah the only thing I've gotta say to wrap this bad boy up. |
| 57:28.18 | Max Shank | E. |
| 01:38:04.76 | mikebledsoe | Is invest your attention into things that are decentralizing and learn about it because I think this is my belief and so you can just if you want to adopt my beliefs which you know when people do good things happen. Ah. The I. |
| 58:00.21 | Max Shank | You seem so down man I feel like I broke you what happened here. He's like I guess just ah, invest in things you like? ah. |
| 01:38:30.10 | mikebledsoe | Ah I'm um'm um well I'm is well this is my way of like not trying to be overly influential is my way of like it's kind of it's my energetic way of going you know, take it or leave it but it is a good idea looking at what. |
| 58:20.41 | Max Shank | Um, ah. |
| 01:38:49.60 | mikebledsoe | What's happening in decentralization when it comes to food energy money and governance and when you look at all these things and you can understand them if you get in on you if you catch the wave that's coming then life's gonna be pretty good for you. You have opportunity to. For it to be pretty awesome if you resist it and you don't want to be a part of it and you just want to keep watching the news and you want to just and put as much money into the Ira as possible so that your company matches it doing the job you hate then. |
| 58:43.83 | Max Shank | All right. |
| 01:39:26.86 | mikebledsoe | You know I think I think life's gonna suck. But you know I'm just trying to convince you to do things from a perspective I'm holding. |
| 59:12.40 | Max Shank | All right? Well I'm gonna go the exact opposite way I'm not goingnna be not going to be wishywashy about it at all I'm gonna say that if you go to http://macank.com/pass I have a new course coming out. |
| 01:39:42.76 | mikebledsoe | Are a. |
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| 01:40:27.75 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I heard that I heard that your program is like the it's basically the the decentralized training system. You know so definitely go check it out. Folks. Ah, one thing I do want to mention is I will be at paleo effects at the end of the month they have not run their event in 2 years and every year that I've been before it feels like a family reunion. It's just so sweet. So I'll be there I'll be speaking on stage I'll be on a couple of panels I got a booth there. We're gonna be hanging out. There's parties every night I highly recommend. Go to I got a link somewhere if you want it if you want me to make money off this thing shoot me a Dm and then I'll send you a link if you don't give a fuck about this and and you just want to buy your ticket then just go to http://paleofx.com and get a ticket and then I'll give you a high 5 either way. Later Max love you |
| 01:01:00.49 | Max Shank | Love you bye. |
| 00:00.00 | mikebledsoe | Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're gonna be talking about ancient wisdom with modern technology because if you don't hold both of these at the same time really well in the year Twenty Twenty Two you're probably gonna have a hard. Time thanks for joining us max. |
| 00:22.25 | Max Shank | Well, thanks for having me in the year Twenty Twenty two since we started counting because if you look at how long homo sapiens have been in this current form. We've been around a really long time and depend to you ask. Roughly two hundred thousand years does that sound correct to you I believe as homo sapiens. Okay, so it's ah it's really hard to actually imagine timelines that long it's. |
| 00:46.53 | mikebledsoe | Ah sure why not? That's what they said on Discovery channel. |
| 00:59.40 | Max Shank | Almost impossible to truly hold in your mind. The fact that ancient egypt was 3 to eight thousand years ago 3 to seven thousand years ago and what's interesting is a lot of the questions that people ask today and a lot of the. Ideas that people feel are unique Today have been asked and answered thousands and thousands of times both spoken and written over the years and I think considering a the fact that we are animals. Who basically look for survival sex and supremacy more or less in that order even without the spoken and written word is an important foundational point for this so human nature which is really animal nature has not. |
| 01:50.34 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 01:55.91 | Max Shank | Changed really at all in thousands and thousands tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of years but the technology has changed dramatically in that amount of time. |
| 02:09.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it's um I as we start talking about this I think about there's a ah 30 hour presentation on Youtube by John Vervaki Dr. john vervaki and it's called awakening from the meaning crisis Highly recommend it if you're a philosophical nerd. You're going to love it. Um, and so what he does is he walks you through the stages of human consciousness and really ah you know. Our written history is very short compared to that 200000 year span that max is just talking about and he basically is able to start ah a in-depth conversation about the development of consciousness with the jewish people. Hebrew people and then how it then makes it over to the greeks and the the way the greeks start making sense of things and I but I believe there was either socrates or aristotle who started talking about what makes us. Human is our ability to use logic and to be able to plan ahead of time to be human is to be rational and that is to have that self-awareness and then ask questions and to develop. Wisdom your job as a human being if you want to become more human he talks about developing wisdom which we're going to get into and also getting in greater touch greater contact with reality and in order to develop wisdom. You have to get into greater contact. With reality and so ah in in order to get in greater contact. We have to become more accurate with what is and this is why max and I get really likely notice that we get really deep into semantics because. Words matter because ah, each word creates a distinction of reality you know and if you have a limited vocabulary your ability to interact with other humans in a way and and with your own mind in a way that puts you in touch with reality can become very very difficult. So um. |
| 04:38.86 | Max Shank | Well not only that not only that but the content of your thoughts determines your reality big time. |
| 04:40.41 | mikebledsoe | I Think about. |
| 04:46.19 | mikebledsoe | Absolutely yeah, you're you're projecting most of what's going on in what you would consider your reality as a projection of of the mind. Um, that's why 2 people can be sitting at the same event and. Have a completely different reporting of those events happens all the time in courtrooms and and then if we're if we're talking about anything beyond the current moment if we're talking about the past there has been a lot of research to show that people. Remember things. Not only do they remember things differently from person to person but they remember them differently over time and one of the studies that really stand out to me in regard to this is they did ah they researched people's ability to what did they report to the police. Ah, right? after a crime versus what did they say once they got on the stand and and then also what kind of impact did the questions that the police officers were asking the people how does that impact their memory of it and so. |
| 05:53.99 | Max Shank | The. |
| 06:02.50 | mikebledsoe | Um, I'm very wary of relying on my own memory or other people's memories to ah in order to be in contact with reality because I know that that simply may not be the case. Um, and so. Man Why am I talking about memories. Yeah, your your perception does does create a reality and how you remember things in the past paint how you're gonna behave now and so ah. |
| 06:32.81 | Max Shank | Well I meant from a very practical standpoint. It started with it. It started with semantics right? And the reason we go through these semantics so much is if you hold the word depressed. |
| 06:39.30 | mikebledsoe | Yes, yes. |
| 06:50.10 | Max Shank | In your mind as meaning a certain thing or even worse as something with a very nebulous meaning you might attach a certain word to your identity and there will be a domino effect to your entire psyche which is going to have a domino effect to your entire life and so just. Being able to ah clean, the slate and have ah an emptiness that you can put stuff back into rather than being saddled down with all of these destructive half ideas. That aren't really fully formed so you don't have a grasp of what's going on in your own mind and it's this very circular destructive cycle if you're not very conscious about the words that you use with yourself and with other people. |
| 07:40.38 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well let's dig into because we're talking about ancient wisdom and and modern technology and in speaking of semantics. Let's Define wisdom max. What's your definition. |
| 07:55.55 | Max Shank | Knowing yourself and acting accordingly. |
| 08:00.30 | mikebledsoe | I Like that the um, the way I think about wisdom is that you um, you, you're aware of cause and effect you're watching when I do this. This happens when when other people do this this happens. You don't wisdom doesn't necessarily have to be all based on your own mistakes of her Failures. You can watch other people's mistakes and Failures. So I think that wisdom is largely. Um. |
| 08:29.10 | Max Shank | Then. |
| 08:37.80 | mikebledsoe | Built upon taking personal responsibility for the things that are going on in your world and because if you are if you ever look out at the world and or you look at your own life and you blame somebody else for the way something is turned out in your life. You're robbing yourself of wisdom and you're robbing your ability to see how the impact of your actions thoughts all these behaviors how they have created the current situation and so somebody who is wise typically people who are wise you look at them and go wow they made a lot of mistakes earlier in their lut in there. And their life and now they they now know what? like yeah you got the old guy in the corner going hey little Johnny you may not want to do that and I was like why not and then does it anyway and then gets fucked up. You go? Oh ah so the the wisdom is. A lot of times people will associate age with wisdom but it really has to do with you know where are you paying attention and were you were you looking for? What was my role in creating any situation that's happening so when I think about wisdom I look at it like that. There's. Individual wisdom that's developed and then obviously the the collective wisdom and looking at ah yeah, and this is where like these buddhist monks that get together and they all meditate together and and they're very scientific in a way they're studying you know. |
| 09:56.62 | Max Shank | The. |
| 10:10.97 | mikebledsoe | But when we do this? What's the result we get happens in yoga as well and there the collective wisdom is when you get a lot of agreement. It's like oh we all did this 1 thing together and we all got this result and there's ah, there's ah, a collaboration and then we write it down in a book. And that gets passed down and so this is this is where I I really do enjoy reading what would be considered ancient wisdom ancient text because there's so much. Um, there is a lot of wisdom in there and it can help you avoid a lot of painful mistakes. |
| 10:48.49 | Max Shank | Yeah I think when you say wisdom to me that's knowledge because I think knowledge is knowing what to do and wisdom is doing what you know pretty much so the way I see it. There's a slight difference. But. |
| 10:49.48 | mikebledsoe | As you move forward. |
| 11:05.60 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 11:07.81 | Max Shank | I Can also perfectly understand the logic to your definition too. |
| 11:10.30 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, so so we've got wisdom. We got a couple to you know knowledge Wisdom Ah, let's define. |
| 11:20.60 | Max Shank | They all, they're answering ancient questions. Let's just put it that way a lot of questions have been asked since the beginning of human history where did we come from that's creation. What do we do while we're here. How do we balance out life and live life and then what happens after life death or destruction and basically every culture in the world has different myths or different stories. Ah, it's Funny. A myth is just ah. The the news a long time ago, right? So we asked the question hey where did we come From. How did we get here? How did everything get here. There are all these creation myths and there are a lot of similarities and differences we have How does how is balance. |
| 11:59.35 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 12:16.60 | Max Shank | Ah maintained. How should we live our lives and then what happens after we die and usually the way balance is maintained in our lives is there's a carrot or a stick upon our death that says if you lived a good life. You go to heaven if you lived a bad life. You go to? hell. And that is a very common thread in many different cultural fabrics so to speak you have the traditional heaven and hell you have ancient Egypt you have your heart weighed against a feather to see if you get to go. Ah, to the good place or suffer a second death. So a lot of these questions have been asked for many thousands of years of what to do with your life and what do you think? Mike? What should we do with our lives. |
| 13:11.10 | mikebledsoe | I think it's I think we should I think one of the pieces of wisdom that I've adopted over the years is looking at what's useful versus true and i. |
| 13:13.51 | Max Shank | According to wisdom. |
| 13:27.81 | mikebledsoe | When we talked about oh where did we come from what was the origin of the the world where what happens after you die and of course every tradition has their stories and I think what you're getting at you got the the heaven and health Piece. What is the Utility. Of believing that you're there's ah, a heaven or a hell at the end of the lifetime and that is to get people to behave a certain way and and so the utility for society to adopt a religion is to to help create order. |
| 13:55.20 | Max Shank | No doubt. |
| 14:06.71 | mikebledsoe | And ah this is where a lot of Western spirituality goes is you know? Well we're preparing for something later. Not right now and so which does create order and then if you go to the east and you look at. |
| 14:17.20 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 14:25.41 | mikebledsoe | A lot of those traditions and how they came about which um, ah, a bigger I think both have their their utility and in the east it's more of yeah, you're creating your own heaven or hell and in every moment and. Everything that's happening is a complete There's no progress so in western philosophy spirituality there's a beginning and an end and in eastern philosophy it tends to be circular like now there's no beginning and an end. It's just it's there's seasons and cycles. It's winter spring summer fall. They call that some sorrow and the ah I mean the truth is that that both exist. Yes, there is a progression of humanity over time. Ah, if you look at the universe. It's spiraling in a direction. There's an expansion happening. But it's also moving in a spiral. It's moving. There are seasons and cycles. So there are aspects of it that are predictable and then there are aspects of it that are not predictable so when I think about what's true if you talk to an eastern philosopher. They go. Well, you know it's just a season and cycle. It's not that important what's important is that you just maintain the quality of your own mind in this moment and create heaven on earth in this moment and then yeah, the the west says who gives a fuck about what's happening right? now go blow yourself up. For for allah and you'll get 72 virgins and so these these are extreme. Yeah, well, it's it's ah yeah, ah Hebrew um, yeah, well, it's it's not necessarily. |
| 16:00.82 | Max Shank | They're they're they're from the west. Um I believe Middle East not to be a stickler for geography. |
| 16:14.51 | mikebledsoe | It's east us. But when we but well when we look at. |
| 16:16.90 | Max Shank | It's all relative right? There are different cultures and they have different ideas of how you achieve some sort of Nirvana or happiness or peace or fulfillment right. |
| 16:21.40 | mikebledsoe | Or the. Yeah, well the origin of these philosophies that christianity came from which is what our culture is largely based off of based off judaism which is the same thing as based off of Islam. They're all come from. They're all considered western ah philosophy is is where it spring from so it went from. Ah, judaism hebrew to Greece and then came over whereas you had a completely different track going on in the east and that's why I talk about these 2 things. But then yeah, there's utility to both. So um, I really think about let's not get too attached to what's true or not. Because that is what happens as people get way too caught up on what's true instead of recognizing what's useful and so what I find to be useful is to say yeah, both of these things are true like we have no idea what's going to happen when we die and we. Have an opportunity to ah to create heaven on earth in this very moment. So why don't we just do both. Why don't we have a nice life while we're here in this moment and do well and help each other out and find peace in our own mind and let's also make some progress and see if we can. Make a better tomorrow than than what we have today. So I have no idea how I got to that point. What's that. |
| 17:49.21 | Max Shank | So so productivity pretty much do so Productivity is the is the way to live. It doesn't matter what is true just do what is productive and make up your own goals. |
| 17:58.99 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well you look at I think it was up was it socrates you know, true, good and beautiful if you pursue those 3 things life is gonna be pretty good. Do what's true. Do what's good and do what's beautiful and i. |
| 18:10.32 | Max Shank | That's a great way to go. |
| 18:17.24 | mikebledsoe | When I hear true I think of being in contact with reality not necessarily like a and I when I think about the Capital T truth I Think about that. That's my simple. That's what I in my own but personal wisdom says the Capital T truth is. Simply what is is right here reality right? now anything outside of that is got a ah degree of bullshit in it. |
| 18:43.73 | Max Shank | Man we could go down that rabbit hole big time. But I'm gonna for once. Keep this ship steered in the singular direction because you you decide for yourself. What's important in life. Unless you get it from somewhere else and I think that's where intuition can come into play a lot now. Intuition is a little different than instinctual desire for pleasure because. You can go down the path of 7 deadly sins total excess that sort of deal and you may not find the joy or fulfillment that you're looking for and in fact, more likely than going to actual hell. When you die for overindulging in these 7 deadly sins. It's more likely that it's a metaphor for creating a hell or an uncomfortable experience within your own life by overindulging in certain things. So I think. Coming back to intuition is very valuable and that's how the scientific method starts anyway is with observation and intuition you you go with your intuition to determine what kind of experiment you'd like to carry out. In the first place to see how that feels for you and this is how I like to connect it with the idea of identity because people get so trapped in different identities. It's like oh I'm a red t-shirt but guy I'm a blue t-shirt guy I'm a. But. I'm a white or I'm a black or I'm a man or I'm a woman and it's very it's very limiting when you're a creative creator so you have all of this potential to create things as a creature but we limit ourselves with this identity. When in fact, we would be so much better off using our intuition and our powers of observation to see what we find intrinsically enjoyable beyond some external result. It's sort of like putting the cart before the horse. If you do something just because you absolutely love doing it. The result is going to be way better and way more fulfilling than if you do something just because of the result that you may get so I think starting with intuition. |
| 21:37.20 | Max Shank | And observation to I guess observation and then intuition to figure out what feels intrinsically good that gives you an unfair advantage about any against anyone who's gonna do the same thing as you because you're gonna love every second of it and it's not gonna feel. Difficult at all because the whole concept of easy and difficult to me is you know there are things that are difficult like doing 10 backflips off of a cliff and landing on your feet but more practically difficult just means anything you don't want to do. |
| 22:13.86 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I Think that's a that's a really. Yeah,, there's there's doing something you don't want to do or or doing something that you may want to do that gets you a poor result that's also worth worth Noting. We won't go down that we talked about the marshmallow test before ah but ah, but. |
| 22:34.70 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 22:38.56 | mikebledsoe | But I what I think of when you're talking about that is the the 2 modes that people may operate from when when seeking happiness and 1 is having and the other one is being and if if you're caught up in the having mode. Of being and in creating happiness. There's never enough and you're gonna run out of runway and some days there's gonna be plenty and other days there won't and ah there there will never be enough and then the being which is thing if we look at. |
| 23:02.10 | Max Shank | There's never enough. |
| 23:18.90 | mikebledsoe | A lot of the new age Community. At this point, a lot of them. You know one of the things they do well is there is this focus on how are you being and then that attracting all these other things. Um the the pitfall with that is if you are trying to change your being so that you can have. Already fucked up. It's like oh I want I'm going to use the secret I'm going to use the law of attraction to get that lamborghini. Yeah, and you'll see how enlightened I am by the size of my house and at the beach. |
| 23:45.49 | Max Shank | To win an enlightenment contest. |
| 23:53.20 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 23:56.46 | mikebledsoe | And so the ah because I'll be able to attract more whatever and so. |
| 24:00.99 | Max Shank | That goes back to our earlier thing of survival sex and status right? and status is really about sex. Anyway, we were talking about the very beginning Beyond language or even deeper than language even other animals. |
| 24:08.76 | mikebledsoe | Remind me. |
| 24:19.64 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 24:20.13 | Max Shank | They're going for survival first and foremost then they're going for sex which is typically a factor of your status and so the way we explore status now is glittery tits and ferrari's more more or less. |
| 24:28.26 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 24:36.40 | mikebledsoe | Through. |
| 24:37.90 | Max Shank | I mean I don't want to put too fine a point on it. There are other ways to gain status some people like to gain actual power over other people like having political clout. But you know largely it has to do with a man's ability to provide. Into the future because women have gotten more and more intelligent or calculated with their discernment So now. Ah you know a mongo type of giant man who's dumb can't provide as well as a frail nerd who. Knows how to create value and wealth and security long-term. |
| 25:19.31 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, absolutely so going going back to having versus being modes. Um I think that what what you were alluding to before is if you if you don't. Have the being part nailed down, you're gonna be It's gonna be easy to convince you to do a bunch of shit. You don't actually want to do so you can have all the stuff that you think is gonna create happiness and if you're operating from that place and then we introduce. Technology these technology is yeah, it's tools and it's ways of leveraging our own minds and bodies to be able to accomplish more with less effort and so if you're adding a lot of you know if you're if you're on a ship and. All of a sudden I you know we're going the wrong way. But we're going fifty knots if we're going really fast then you know some people are so excited that you're going fast but have no idea what direction they're going in and ah. That's what happens with technology. It's like oh I've got this iphone in front of me and I've got this laptop and I've got you know a 4 our-wheel drive truck that can go anywhere you you give these things you give these ah you give these things guns. |
| 26:45.57 | Max Shank | I Feel attacked. |
| 26:55.39 | mikebledsoe | Guns are a great technology. Um Blockchain is ah is a fantastic technology that's emerged ah all of these things in the wrong hands in the in the hands of idiots will cause death destruction and and. It's it's not ah, a good look. But you put this in the hands of people who are you know who've already figured their own shit out and they can create some really cool stuff. You can live a really good life. You can you can do a lot of good for other people. And you you also get to fucking enjoy it which is very very rare I I hang out with a lot of the entrepreneurial community people that have money and are very successful and yada yada yada and I don't think there are any more. Um, a lot of them are any more happy than than someone who's working a tip old 9 to 5 making you know a quarter of the money. |
| 27:58.75 | Max Shank | I Think there's a big distinction I would like to make between you mentioned the being and the having and I think there's also the doing which is a little different than being. |
| 28:09.40 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 28:15.10 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 28:17.70 | Max Shank | And clearing your being so that you're as empty as space as fluid as water not to sound too. Ah fruity language over here is X I. |
| 28:31.93 | mikebledsoe | He's a fruit cake folks. |
| 28:36.77 | Max Shank | Um, definitely I have some homosexual tendencies when it comes to just I don't know I like nice things I like to use flowery language sometimes I don't know I'm a simple creature. No. |
| 28:49.15 | mikebledsoe | You you heard you heard it here first folks? um. |
| 28:55.35 | Max Shank | No one's a hundred percent straight I mean back when I was watching pornography I I liked there to be at least 1 penis in there even if there were 2 ladies so I guess I was like 33% homosexual in my preference there. |
| 29:13.21 | mikebledsoe | Welllthough this are you is ah I mean the whole it's ah it's a manmade concept. Ah the that there's a really cool mental model that everybody every everybody. |
| 29:21.80 | Max Shank | I know you think I'm sexy Mike you can just come right out and say it. |
| 29:29.46 | mikebledsoe | Why do you think I was over at your house all the time. Ah,, there's this really cool mental model that everybody uses. It's used early on in textbooks. It's hard to miss and it's the spectrum. It's There's this thing on the left and there's this the opposite of it is on the right. And ah, you can be somewhere in the middle and you go from left to right? and ah, it's It's so and interesting to watch people put things like sexual preference on this scale. |
| 30:06.48 | Max Shank | Where it's binary. |
| 30:07.57 | mikebledsoe | Of Ah, yeah, it's binary exactly and so it's It's really really interesting to watch people do that I mean I've done it I Still do I I Love the spectrum it. |
| 30:19.89 | Max Shank | Spectrums Spectrums make labeling difficult which is what our whole culture is in love with we love putting a very precise label on something and that's why we often miss the nuance. |
| 30:34.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so I mean so you have the linear spectrum but I like to think about a more 3 dimensional spectrum which would be let's let's have a ball. Let's have a sphere and and there's a lot of things in the middle. Um. |
| 30:34.89 | Max Shank | And the context. |
| 30:44.70 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 30:50.91 | mikebledsoe | Why am I bringing that up man I'm bringing up a lot of show on the show that I'm losing track of where I was at I cut back My new tropics Max What's the problem. |
| 30:53.24 | Max Shank | Well I think it's important I think it's important to understand that the problem you're having right now in this conversation is the same problem of focusing too much. On the definition of your being. The last thing you want to do is be proud to be a man or proud to be white or proud to be a woman or proud to be a you know fairy godmother. Whatever it really is so silly and you don't want to get stuck too much. |
| 31:11.77 | mikebledsoe | You know. |
| 31:29.68 | Max Shank | In trying to define your being being should just be enjoying where you're at it shouldn't be thinking about who you are too much. It should be recognizing that you are not a fixed State. You are a dynamic changing growth. It's classic. Growth Mindset versus Fix Mindset and even though the the book flow is really a challenging read for the reader. It's got some good information in there and that is where I come in with the idea of the doing. Rather than just the being like if you spend too much time in the being it can be entertaining to wax philosophical. But if you spend too much time there you become like a prisoner in your own mind instead of enjoying the emptiness. Of your being and focusing on the intrinsic joy of doing and getting into that flow state and that's where you become like an animal traversing the terrain or a big cat hunting their prey you become focused. You become the task. Instead of being focused on yourself I can't think of a worse psychological prison than being focused on the definition of yourself so much and that's one of the biggest emphases of our very sick culture right now is what are you.? Are you a blue t-shirt guy. Are you a red t-shirt guy. Are you a lady? are you you a she are you a they are.. It's what's a worse prison than that. So I say instead of that. Go back to the intuition and the observation to figure out the doing. Where you become the task and that is something that we've known about for a long time. That's chopwood Carry water. That's um, you know the yeah Boom tying it all back. |
| 33:25.82 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, ancient. Wisdom yeah that there's um I brought up this this video I saw on Instagram yesterday I followed a lot of the teachings of a Christian and Murty are you familiar. |
| 33:42.41 | Max Shank | So one of Bruce Lee's main influences. |
| 33:46.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think so and he he was talking about when you when you identify with an organization a group a religion or a race or a gender when you identify with any of these things. You are isolating yourself and a lot of time he was saying you know what? if you lived a life where you did not identify with any particular group whatsoever and at the first thought of that a lot of people would respond to him with. You know? Well, you'd be I You would be checking out of Society. You would not be participating and he would say no, it's the Opposite. You're open to the the all of humanity the moment that you identify with a group. |
| 34:31.63 | Max Shank | You have a more open connection with everybody. |
| 34:43.23 | mikebledsoe | You have just cut yourself off from and and you've isolated yourself to a very ah small small portion of humanity and ah and and the truth and and you're even isolating yourselves from people in that group because you're all in agreement about. |
| 34:52.96 | Max Shank | It's horrible. |
| 35:02.46 | mikebledsoe | 1 aspect of the entire universe and can potentially miss who that person is outside of that 1 thing and so you know I get some conversations with people around. You know, ah race and gender and the victimhood and and all of these things and I get frustrated at times and they're like are you frustrated because that ah that and I got I'm frustrated because the only I'm I'm trying to help you and. You're not even willing to help yourself. You're so caught up in this argument I can't there's nothing that I can do I can't I can't hand you any amount of money I can't include you any more than you're already included in and to participate in whatever it is that we're doing until you let go of the identity. As long as you hold on to that identity. It's it's you're inflicting this on yourself all the way now if you give that up and then you're being inflicted upon then now we have violence. There's a there's a real problem with that. But when we look at society as a whole right now. What I think. What most of us are witnessing is this this heavy identification with an organization group. Whatever it is and it's ah it yeah, it's creating massive isolation and isolation creates suffering. |
| 36:30.44 | Max Shank | And it's just ah, perpetuating this us and them mentality that this this whole idea that you should define yourself by 1 variable of your being is insane. You know. White pride black pride. These are just racist ideas. They're stupid like why would you? Why would you be proud of that. It's because you're so desperate to be part of a group because you can get status within that group. It's like a kid joining a gang because they have no family right. And if you don't have anything to offer yourself as an individual. You'll think oh gosh I can get some status even if I provide no value by just saying like I'm I'm part of this crew essentially so it's a part of our deep desire for community. |
| 37:18.92 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 37:26.88 | Max Shank | And when you have someone isolated like that It is much easier to get them jump in to some ah sick fractured part of a community. Oh big time. |
| 37:36.57 | mikebledsoe | Very easy to control very easy. Can I mean you I mean it's very easy to I like using politics as ah as just ah, an example because ah, no matter what political party you're looking at there is a. Oh are you? This are you? This are you? This have you checked these boxes. Well you you would be you would you wouldn't really be that if you didn't do this that you're not with how many um how many black leaders have been called white supremacists in the last couple years. |
| 37:56.92 | Max Shank | Us and them. |
| 38:13.99 | Max Shank | That That's a pretty funny one. That's that's a pretty that is a pretty funny one I mean some of the stuff I see is so outrageous. That's one of the things where I'm like this black guy is the black face of white supremacy and I was like huh. |
| 38:14.94 | mikebledsoe | Because they didn't go with. They didn't agree with Blm um, and it the. |
| 38:29.70 | mikebledsoe | Well I remember it happened it happened 1 time it happened with the guy that was running for the governor of ah ah of ah California and well well and and I and I was like oh that's interesting. But then I watched it happen over and i. |
| 38:32.22 | Max Shank | Okay. |
| 38:36.77 | Max Shank | Oh God here we go. |
| 38:49.40 | mikebledsoe | I think I've witnessed it over a dozen times at this point it's it's kind of like the boy who cried wolf though. Yeah I. |
| 38:55.20 | Max Shank | It's rhetoric and it's effective rhetoric if you know remember if I ever run for office. All my opponents are racist pedophiles. That's all I Got to say they're bad I'm good and they're bad I help nuns cross the street I work at the orphanage I. |
| 39:04.21 | mikebledsoe | I. |
| 39:12.91 | Max Shank | Have a rainbow flag in my front yard and those guys are racist pedophiles. It's It's such a classic ah appeal to Authority ad Hominem attack which takes us right back to heaven and hell God The Devil These are not new ideas. There's a bad guy and there's a good guy. And if you can make people believe that a guy is bad. They will blindly ignore any rational thing that person might say and if you can make people believe. That one guy is good or God then they will blindly trust anything that guy says this is not new stuff and that's why it's so important to start with your gut and then you were talking about Aristotleian logic. It's really important. To have the tools to determine if something is reasonable, rational and true and it is difficult because most things the answer is not enough information and in fact, that's a ah, really valuable thing to. Notice is that when you have a true false question. There are usually 3 answers True false or not enough information to answer the question and most of the time there's not enough information to answer the question. |
| 40:42.29 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think you said something really brilliant there and I I want to I want to zero in on just one piece of it which is the I think the the. Primary technology that needs to be mastered in order to use all other technology in a very useful way that's going to benefit yourself and others is the technology of language and you're you're talking about rhetorical fallacies and. Understanding language to a degree in which you can see when people are being manipulative with their language when I when I watch ah politics when I watch ah when I'm at the airport and I look at a Tv and I see. Advertising and commercials and I for for different goods and services and when I stumble across stuff on the internet I I get a good chuckle out of it because I can see the the Nlp the neuralistic programming I can see the manipulation. It's ah and it's interesting and and I think I have ah a very a somewhat unique perspective to be able to spot these things for a while I I thought it was insane that everyone couldn't see these things but there's there's 2 things that I've identified that I've done that that uniquely. Qualifies me and I bet there's hundreds of other people that that have done these 2 things and 1 is I used to have a top secret clearance in the Navy and I saw and I worked in communications and I saw an incredible amount of message traffic coming through ah about some. Secret shit and what I witnessed 12 hours later on the news is that all these different news agencies would be reporting on the thing where I saw the the reports we had were you know it was bullet point this happened then this happened this is how this is how we responded because. You create us. It's called a sit rep you create a situational report so that we can learn from it and make better decisions in the future. It's a life or death situation on creating these sit reps. You would not create one and then put a bunch of flowery language in it or or put anything that. Might not be true to make yourself look better. You don't do that because right? So you don't do that and then so I'm looking at at what I would trust to be very factual information. |
| 43:16.00 | Max Shank | Um, you don't hide it within 10 pages of prose. |
| 43:30.17 | mikebledsoe | Then turn around 12 hours later and I'm watching the news and I see Msnbc reporting it 1 way Fox reporting it another way Cnn reporting it another way and I just remember one day after being just. Months and months of sifting and looking and and being exposed to these 2 things happening at the same time and I go holy shit they're they're manipulating the the public at large and then I and then I I leave the navy. |
| 43:55.63 | Max Shank | Ah, the. |
| 44:01.13 | mikebledsoe | And I start studying years later I study marketing and then I get deepened up into marketing I'm studying things like and Nlp I'm studying hypnosis I'm studying how language is used to to 1 influence yourself and influence others because you're you're influencing other. Yourself with every word that comes out of your mouth and through your mind is influencing you and which and the words that come through your mind include the ones that come from outside enter your ears and then go through your mind and so there are. Combinations of words and certain words when used in a certain way are have greater weight for influence with an individual so watching seeing the objective data come through watching how it's manipulated seeing how much bullshit. Actually does exist there and then learning how it actually works ah does put me in this very interesting position and part of me wants to stay on the rooftops and be like hey this is what like can't you know that this what it is but but. |
| 44:59.82 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 45:13.75 | Max Shank | And. |
| 45:14.94 | mikebledsoe | People are fish in water who don't know that they're in water and if you in my experience I talk to certain people who are very intelligent and they are plugged into Twitter all day and they know who said what? And. What's going on in Ukraine and they understand like war policy and all this stuff and I go I'm looking like it's like all your information is bad. You don't have any good data points. So it's like if if we assume that what you. |
| 45:45.30 | Max Shank | The. |
| 45:51.80 | mikebledsoe | No is actually true then you're right? But the problem is is the premise for which you're making your argument is actually wrong and so the. |
| 46:02.90 | Max Shank | That's a big distinction is to know that you could have a valid thought process very logical and correct. But if the premise is false. The result is still false. |
| 46:14.28 | mikebledsoe | And this is this is a conversation that I I have some friends that are you know buried pretty deep and in these in some narratives and anytime I bring this type of stuff up. There's a. You can see the emotional reaction and the and the immediate rejection of of a of a statement I'm like you know what there's and my girlfriend I Go Why don't you like tell them about this or this or this I'm like they're not they they stop hearing me as soon as they. You saw that physical reaction. They didn't hear anything after that. Yeah I immediately got categorized as some crazy asshole. Ah yeah. |
| 46:53.88 | Max Shank | You're on, you're on the other team is the thing right? You're the devil. You're the devil. You're on the other. No seriously, you're on the other team and everything you say will be ignored or misrepresented or just. Blindly mistrusted. It's better to not have any opinions that are too strong. Actually there was a really good conversation. Um Gavin Debecker who wrote a gift of fear he was on Joe Rogan's podcast the other day and. Joe Rogan changed his mind about something in real time and it was really nice to see because Gavin Debecker is a good communicator and he's patient. Guy. You could tell in the conversation. It was worth. It was worth a listen I really enjoyed it and they were talking. |
| 47:33.92 | mikebledsoe | A. |
| 47:42.56 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go look that up right now? What? um. |
| 47:49.41 | Max Shank | Were talking about ah model mugging I think it was called and Gavin Debecker was saying it's awesome and it's ah you know a 6 hour course 1 hour a week for six weeks and Joe Rogan um at one point was like oh I totally disagree. You got to learn martial arts for a long time. In order to make any of those ah make any progress because otherwise you'll have this false sense of confidence and you know as a martial arts teacher in this and that and he was like that and Gavin De Becker said wow you have ah a really strong opinion about this and Rogan was like yeah I do and he's like well. Let me tell you something that you don't know and he talked about the 23000 people who had gone through the program and had had better results in violent encounters and explained more about the program was and. Hundred percent credit to Rogan because I've seen him do this a few times and it's one of the more admirable traits in a human being is he goes gosh I really didn't understand it was like that and that that makes a lot of sense and he completely changed his mind within minutes and it's so rare to see something like that. And it's really encouraging any time I do and you're much better off not having such strong opinions really about anything because those are those are the hardest holes to dig yourself out of because you dug those holes yourself. By having too strong of an opinion the ability to change your mind is the sign of an agile and flexible mind and we've talked many times how adaptability is the chief survival characteristic. So if you get caught in these fixed mindsets and opinions that. Really aren't based on true premises and valid thought processes. It's like an extra prison that you have attached onto your being and if you think of one of the ways to greater mental and physical peace. As relieving yourself of the psychological burdens of the ego and breaking the back of the ego so that you can dance and you know drum to the rhythm of the universe not to raja style then it makes sense that you would not want to engage. In having such strong opinions because they are really more burdens and they're not very practical most of the time either. It's not like you get anything out of it and we can tie it back to the way that we use technology people are so desperate to. |
| 50:36.50 | Max Shank | To wave their own little flag and just say hey everyone I'm smart I know what's going on. Hey hey everyone I'm smart I know what's going on, please please like me give me some sort of positive feedback positive attention and that's what I see um happen a lot is it's. Fishing for compliments from the people who are already your side and alienating the people on the other side even more so it makes no sense to me what you're doing that for except to make yourself feel better. You might as you would be much more honest to just say. Hey hey everyone could you give me a few compliments I'm I'm looking for some validation Today. Can you tell me I'm smart and good but people don't want to do that because it sounds ridiculous, but they're perfectly willing to par it out the narrative of their team. Without having done any kind of searching for whether this is true or valid. So you're safer to just not have too strong of an opinion about things. It's very burdensome. |
| 51:47.13 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, if your if your ego can withstand it. There's are you familiar with ah Byron Katie okay yeah she's um, she came up with something called the work and she. |
| 51:56.20 | Max Shank | That name sounds familiar. |
| 52:04.68 | mikebledsoe | She also wrote I think one of her books I've got it somewhere around here. It's called ah, 1000 names for joy and ah she her background is very very interesting and that she's not a psychologist. She didn't study spirituality. Anything like that and yet she became one of the most profound ah speakers and you know like you quote unquote therapists that ever lived and if you really want to be impressed with her. She does something called. |
| 52:31.46 | Max Shank | And. |
| 52:39.47 | mikebledsoe | Ah, the work and the turnaround and she has a 4 step process that she takes people through you can just Youtube Byron Katie the work and you'll be able to witness it and the the idea of the work is the premise of it is that. People are creating suffering in their own life. Oh I want to talk about this first. The way she got to where she is now is she lost her fucking mind she lost her. Ah she went through down this really negative. Rabbit hole ended up like walking through the desert and she was gone. |
| 53:14.14 | Max Shank | Well, how did we get here? How did we get here. Didn't We do roughly the same thing I mean you and I lost our minds at least once E trent. |
| 53:15.75 | mikebledsoe | Back in the 80 s huh what do you mean. Oh for sure for sure. Um, but I don't think we were suicidal I only I wasn't suicidal when I when I lost it was one of sick. |
| 53:31.65 | Max Shank | We weren't so far gone maybe does suicidal mean you're like really going to do it or you just thinking about what it would be like because who doesn't think about who doesn't think about what it would be like. |
| 53:41.36 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's suicidal ideation. Yeah well of course there's suicidal ideation and then there's suicid all um. |
| 53:53.60 | Max Shank | I mean I have it all planned out like you you want to do it. You want to but I'm a perfectionist that that's why I haven't done it. |
| 53:57.87 | mikebledsoe | I Just want to I just go skydiving and not not pull the cord man just go skydiving I don't pull the cord. That's that's my mask you know if I'm ever gonna go. It's probably I'll do it. |
| 54:08.62 | Max Shank | The problem is I'm a perfectionist I'm still planning out the perfect suicide which is the only thing that's saving me. |
| 54:11.96 | mikebledsoe | Ah, ah. So ah, anyways, she she basically had ah a major mental breakdown and ah, you know there's something. Ah, there's a few people out there. Jeed Mckenna is another person who basically went through a mental breakdown took about 2 years to get through it. |
| 54:35.61 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 54:37.12 | mikebledsoe | Which is what what they have in common is they stop believing their thoughts and they got down to they were able to stabilize the perspective of truth which is just a constant presence with reality without the. |
| 54:42.32 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 54:54.33 | mikebledsoe | Ah, without stories narratives things like that getting a fixed and attached to so she has a 4 step process for any narrative you might have to pry your identity from it and so ah, the the. |
| 54:57.89 | Max Shank | M. |
| 55:06.54 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 55:12.99 | mikebledsoe | The key issue is that people believe their thoughts and when you believe your thought to be true. You then identify for it with it. It becomes part of who you are and if you try to wrestle the belief out of somebody's ego. The ego is gonna fight back and say no, no, no Motherfucker. If I Let go of this then I'm gonna die going back to being accepted by the tribe because yeah, and so and so I need to be accepted by the tribe if I let this go. It's a very deep. Ah you know. |
| 55:35.61 | Max Shank | Right permanence. |
| 55:50.26 | mikebledsoe | Deep thing in your psyche. It's not something where you just hear me talk about it and go Okay I'm good with it I've been I've been hip to this conversation for a decade and I'm still you know wrestling with constantly questioning is this a belief or is this what I'm noticing or you know like there's a constant. Ah. |
| 55:54.28 | Max Shank | Are. |
| 56:09.99 | mikebledsoe | Questioning going on which I think is very very healthy if. You're not doing that if you haven't stabilized reality which I think almost you know, probably a handful of people alive on the planet have actually achieved that the rest of us are walking around with some type of narrative. Some people are so bought into it. They don't. Don't even know their beliefs might not be true and then to to be operating from a place where you're actually questioning your beliefs as and being based in something that's not reality is ah is ah I think a really healthy place to be and and that means that the ego has to you have to have a relationship to the ego. That is ah that is not so attached you know and if anyone is if anyone really wants to get to the core of beliefs and language and all that I think Byron Katie is likely the best. Practical resource There's some other really cool resources out there if you're really into the conceptual shit but she has got one of those practical tools I've seen out there. |
| 57:17.61 | Max Shank | So it all comes back to trying to ease suffering basically right because suffering is resistance and the opposite of resistance is acceptance so you accept the death of the ego which. |
| 57:24.56 | mikebledsoe | Now. |
| 57:37.10 | Max Shank | The reason people fear death of their body is because the story ends I I like to phrase it that way at least makes sense to me I would be willing to hear any argument to the contrary because I like a good argument, especially a civil. |
| 57:41.61 | mikebledsoe | That's right. |
| 57:52.11 | mikebledsoe | Um, I'm afraid of the horns and the pitchfork fellow. Yeah. |
| 57:55.76 | Max Shank | Argument. We're afraid of the devil that makes sense. Ah he seems pretty sinister. Guy seems like he would enjoy torturing you for a really long time. But anyway so jokes on him I dig it. |
| 58:05.78 | mikebledsoe | I Might like it though start jokes on him. Um. |
| 58:14.70 | Max Shank | Give it to me Diablo Man. Ah so we're talking about how to ease suffering pretty much and allow us to live with more peace more prosperity more productivity and. More productivity That's where technology comes into play and a tool is just a tool. It is in fact, ah more about how you use it So a scalpel in the hands of a child is very dangerous but a scalpel in the hands of a surgeon can. Save your life so understanding what you're trying to do with the tools you have available and is it more mindfulness is it more intentioned is it more deliberate. These are all Synonyms. Of course. But look computers are such crazy leverage machines but most of the time we're just floating stuff out there um to get validation which is an external trap rather than an intrinsic joy of doing and being. So recognizing what tools are most important in your life is a good place to start kind of embracing a minimalist attitude toward the tools that you possess and. Not necessarily does it Spark joy. But what is the real use of this can I get along without it and the same way. A computer can totally trap you on the internet if you don't have wisdom and you have a computer with internet Connection. You are fucked. Your your soul will be gone if you're going on Pure instinct and you have a computer with internet Connection. You're Gone. You need to have some wisdom to control these very powerful tools. It's the same with the refrigerator. Wow. What an amazing Concept. A refrigerator can store all this food. But if I have unregulated gluttony instead of wisdom which you know there are ancient proverbs that say eat until you're 80% full. It's It's the simplest thing. But that's why knowledge is easy but wisdom is really the practice of Knowledge. It's knowledge applied to your specific Situation. So I think having ah an appreciation for technology is maybe a good first step. |
| 01:01:00.26 | Max Shank | And recognizing how fortunate we are to have access to the goods that we have access to and to put yourself in a scenario where you don't have access to these tools and what life is like and then reintroduce them back. Into your existence. You'll have a greater appreciation for them and they'll you'll use them a lot more deliberately I think. |
| 01:01:28.48 | mikebledsoe | Well sir that that feels like an end of show synnosis. Yeah yeah, yeah, same. |
| 01:01:34.19 | Max Shank | Boom I Love it. Yeah so I think the I think the modern technology is way Easier. We don't need to talk about it too much and I think the the ancient wisdom has a lot of facets to it. It. It does primarily center around questions people have been asking for a long time and how do you find peace in your being joy in your doing and gratitude in your having. |
| 01:02:07.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, beautiful, well said? Yeah I think about um, a really good example is you know how do you for those who use Instagram how do you use it are you are you a pure consumer that's just scrolling through that's. Being used by technology or are you are you using technology are you are you creating with it and not only are you creating but are you creating something that that brings you joy and brings other people joy and so I think about technology is simply an amplifier of it's going to amplify what is if. If if your life is full of destruction. You're gonna be able to amplify that destruction if your life is full of creative creative energy. You're gonna be able to create unlike you were be able to you were able to create before so be aware of that and the number 1 technology. That we all have access to is language. So what? what was that noise. |
| 01:03:13.23 | Max Shank | Dude I was gonna say the same thing I'm I'm right there with you. There's no, there's no more valuable technology than language. That's why you and I harp on it so much is because it is ah other than getting comfortable sitting quietly and just. |
| 01:03:14.52 | mikebledsoe | I. |
| 01:03:30.40 | Max Shank | Doing things in silence it. It is the the key to unlocking and relieving yourself of these burdens. |
| 01:03:34.78 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, if you can master that you can be the creator of your world and if you don't master that you will be the slave to other people who have mastered language. So ah, ah. |
| 01:03:48.44 | Max Shank | Pooh. We. |
| 01:03:52.78 | Max Shank | Ah, it reminds me. It reminds me of this thing I was reading about ancient Egypt where the the priest or the leader had ah a temple that no one else could go into and they would bring him gold and food and women and shit like that. |
| 01:03:57.39 | mikebledsoe | Ah. |
| 01:04:11.82 | Max Shank | And he told them that every night he had to negotiate Mott M a at which is balance with the equal and opposite world on the other side but of course no one could ah confirm this but I was just thinking what a powerful. Language swindle that is to say hey listen every single day I'm going to negotiate with essentially the other world or the underworld to make sure there's balance in all of our lives as long as you bring me all your gold and food and all this Stuff. While I go into that private room and handle this negotiation. It's it's crazy that you can get people to do things just by making noises with your mouth speaking of marketing and sales I mean it's Crazy. It's Crazy. It's Crazy. It's not Fair. It's not Fair. It's basically cheating because your relation with your relationship with yourself basically language related in a lot of cases understanding the definition of things your relationships with other people largely language related and then your relationship with your customers. You are setting the tone. |
| 01:05:10.67 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, go. |
| 01:05:24.51 | Max Shank | With every word you say it's It's not Fair. It's not fair that it's such an unfair advantage that if you can speak and communicate in a way that is both clear and inspiring. You can exponentially. Amplify. Whatever it is. You're slinging if you're slinging carpet cleaning or fitness products like myself. It is fully an unfair advantage and I can speak from experience. |
| 01:05:45.14 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:05:55.80 | mikebledsoe | Absolutely and an overlooked thing around language I think most people when they hear using language especially in the way we've been talking about it is in regard to marketing or Pr Politics Media they're thinking about the outside language. Well there's also the internal dialogue you're having with yourself mastering that will help you master yourself and then the next layer inside of that is the the thoughts that are made up of words that are operating in your subconscious. And I I believe that everybody has witnessed this whether they recognize it or not they witness something that's been living in the subconscious pop up into the conscious realm of their mind and they go where whered that thought come from that was fucking weird that thought's been in there. For a long time more than likely and ah, you're just now you just now have awareness of it and it's likely been causing your your personality. It's been causing behavior for you and you didn't even know it. So I think it's safe to say if you. This is one of those useful beliefs that I have which is 95% and I I say 95% to get people a little more credit but I think it's probably closer to 98 or 99% of what's operating in your mind is subconscious, unconscious and ah. We we give ourselves a lot more credit for thinking that we're we're doing things on purpose when most of what we're doing is is an autopilot function and ah for me it. It's really cool to do conscious programming where I am. |
| 01:07:37.10 | Max Shank | The. |
| 01:07:48.44 | mikebledsoe | Intentionally bringing thoughts into my mind that are going to move me where I want to go but I find even more power and subconscious programming if you learn how to hypnotize yourself and embed codes that you want to operate without any conscious effort. Throughout the day. There's ways to do that as well and maybe I should put together a course or something I told somebody recently at a mastermind that they go well what thing could you bring to the group that would benefit them well I could teach you how to hypnotize yourself. Everybody's heads turn. Never heard of that before I've heard of hypnotizing other people. Yeah, you can hypnotize yourself but you know what show is wrapping up so I to save that little trick for later later it. It's really simple so hit hit me up on Instagram if you want to know about it oll ah send you a free Pdf or something. Have to make it up. |
| 01:08:44.62 | Max Shank | Cool modern technology. |
| 01:08:49.89 | mikebledsoe | All right max it out where where are people finding you these days. |
| 01:08:56.77 | Max Shank | Well I'm currently at the top of a very tall mountain studying with a monk who is 500 years old to figure out the meaning of life and he says in another couple hundred years. We just might figure it out. |
| 01:09:11.80 | mikebledsoe | Nice, nice looking forward to hearing the answer to that I'm gonna be using all the new biotech that's available to live to for another 200 years so I think we're gonna be good to go. Ah, you can find me on Instagram at Mike Underscore blood so and yeah check out the blood so show for more content interviews go to http://matchschk.com. He's not gonna toot his own horn today for whatever reason so go to http://maschank.com and check out. Courses on how to do cool stuff with your body and I'll see you next time Levy Max |
| 01:09:50.67 | Max Shank | Love you buddy! Thank you. |
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| 00:00.00 | Max Shank | Welcome back everybody to Monday morning with max and Mike Today we are going to talk about arguably the most important topic in your life because it is your life. It's about securing your future. Both. From a fitness standpoint a financial standpoint and a friendship standpoint so we are gonna talk about what is going to happen in the near and possibly distant future and what you should do about it. This is gonna be really fun. Mike thanks for joining me today. |
| 00:34.83 | mikebledsoe | Thanks! Man. Ah yeah, I'm excited to talk about this because we were just chatting before as we always do we we get a good fifteen twenty minute chat on before we do the show and I was walking max through all the steps that I've been. I've been getting walked through by a friend of mine on how to secure crypto finances and what it really takes to make sure that those things stay safe and why does that interest me well that interests me because. I look at the future and I see a lot of uncertainty which I think everybody does and if you're somebody who thinks that the future is certain then you have really fooled yourself and because we have no idea what will happen so the lot of ah. |
| 01:25.67 | Max Shank | I Think a certain future has to be kind of a sad one The the more certainty in your future. The more sad it's going to be and that's the paradox of what we're talking about is the more you secure something the more you trap that something. |
| 01:30.12 | mikebledsoe | Set Yeah a certain future is boring. |
| 01:44.85 | Max Shank | Because there are really only two ways forward. There's exposure and avoidance and if you only use avoidance as a strategy you will have greater security but you also have a much lower quality of life in your world Your universe your unique perspective. |
| 02:03.69 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well, this also makes me think about the was it Nicholas Taleb nasim his approach in the book anti-fragile anytime I think about securing the future or investing or health and fitness I gravitate towards his philosophy. |
| 02:03.89 | Max Shank | Will shrink. |
| 02:23.41 | mikebledsoe | And his his first really well-known book that came out was the black swan and black swan was about black swan events those are events that are unpredictable and black swan is is a reference to ah europeans that thought that only swans could be white. And they never considered that there'd be a swan that was any other color and then some of these europeans hopped on boats and traveled to other parts of the world and one day they see a black swan and it was mind-bending because it was never considered that. That could ever be true anyway and so the future and well the the past is is littered with black swan events. We think we know what's going to happen or we think we can prepare for every eventuality but the truth is is you can't actually prepare for every eventuality. And I find that anytime I start trying to set up an avoidance system for every potential problem that might come up I actually end up getting really bogged down and creativity goes down and it becomes very difficult to move forward and so ah. In his book. Black Swan he starts getting into the anti-fragile conversation then he goes into anti-fragile conversation and in that book and he ah basically says that most humans think about systems as either being. Ah, fragile or robust they're on the spectrum of fragility to robustness and so I have a Toyota Tacoma. It's considered a very robust vehicle but over time it will become more fragile. It. It will not make improvements and the same with my computer. These are systems that are truly fragile systems but the human body and he also talks about he makes a lot of comparisons between the human body and the economy is there are certain types of systems that do well with some uncertainty. So if you. If you expose your body to in exercise to novelty in small doses. You will actually see improvements and the system improves. Overall if you if you throw ah too much novelty all at once then then you start breaking the system down of course. But really separating out. How do you What's the difference between a fragile to robust system that spectrum versus something that exists outside of that which is anti-fragile system and so that's how I like to think about. |
| 05:10.34 | mikebledsoe | When I think about my finances when I think about my business when I think about my health when I think about a lot of these systems some people if they're trying to prepare for every eventuality actually end up building a fragile system instead of. Thinking about it as how do I build an anti-fragile system and when they do that having a hiccup in the system may be a little uncomfortable in the short term but in the long term It turns out being a really good one so just bringing that to the forefront as I. When I think about securing my future I think about those things. |
| 05:48.90 | Max Shank | Yeah I like to think of adaptability as the Chief characteristic of survival and Thrival which is not a word but I like to use it Anyway. Ah from a fitness perspective. Adding chaos to your training is really valuable. In fact, culture the whole purpose of culture is to reduce unpredictability and to reduce chaos and if you do not. Do something to compensate for that. You get really sad human beings. That's why you need to have games where you introduce chaos in a relatively safe environment like I don't know if you're familiar with pushing hands from TaiChi. |
| 06:43.69 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 06:45.99 | Max Shank | There's couple different types. But basically you and your friend try to push the other one or pull the other one so that they have to take a step and your feed are firmly planted and this chaos is like a more appropriate version of wrestling. For the average person. So the ability to adapt and react to an external force is really the chief characteristic of survivability. So I think adaptability number one culture is to reduce. Chaos and unpredictability so we need games and we need to dose ourselves with chaos if we want to really thrive and then just in terms of the the systems let's say there's ah, a fine line between prudence. And paranoia right? because the most the most robust system really would be to live with maybe 1 other person or a family on a farm by the river in a bomb shelter. And only leave when it's absolutely necessary so you increase your predictability but you also decrease your openness. That's probably why the further you go down that rabbit hole of securing and protecting the less creative and open and expansive. You are right. |
| 08:17.73 | mikebledsoe | Well Also Chaos is still going to find its way in going back to the black swan event is you when you create I think when people create a high level predicted Predictability. There is this inability to deal with the the chaotic and. Environment that that will come no matter what the black swan event's gonna show up no matter what and the more predictable you've been trying to make it the harder it is to adapt to that situation. |
| 08:49.54 | Max Shank | I don't think they're mutually exclusive but I understand what you're saying I think the more cards you have in your hand. The better off you are I think the benefit of living in a culture is that there's a lot of redundancy built into the system. Where I live. There are a lot of people who are electricians and plumbers and auto mechanics. So if one of them goes down I can go on to the next one if 2 of them go down I can go on to the next one and if you're relying only on yourself. You have to. Gain a ton of skills or you have to live in a very primitive way where you're not really able to use technology I just had my laptop sent in to get the battery fixed and before I sent it in. |
| 09:39.38 | mikebledsoe | Drew um, did you remove all the videos of you with hookers smoking crack. |
| 09:44.65 | Max Shank | Oh no no I just have it in a secret folder. Why would I get rid of those hookers love crack some of them do ah but I looked online first before I sent it in to get fixed. And it was 75 steps to replace the battery and you can buy a kit and do all those and it was 75 steps and I was like oh my god if I mess up one of these steps I can totally destroy my whole computer. So I ended up getting it sent in and. Especially with technology you have to recognize that no man is an island and that's why you really want to have kind of a segue here a little bit you want to have a social network ah a radical rolodex. Of. Not only service people but also friends that you can count on so there's that safety net we talked about a little bit before the 3 safety nets financial fitness and friendships basically and it's so valuable. Have those relationships with different providers of service and different providers of products and it really does increase your security and survivability. |
| 11:09.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well I think about what's happening what I'm witnessing happening that continually which is ah the decentralization of things and the the format of of our our current economy. Being very capitalist I think it's going to just become more capitalist but the capitalism has allowed for a lot of that redundancy a lot of that the natural configuration if somebody goes down somebody will fill that spot and it doesn't have to be ah. Decided to buy a person's like oh we need to change this thing the system pretty much just adapts to whatever's going on in the environment in a capitalist society and as things decentralized more right now. It's like everybody is trading with everybody. But if we have a currency that is no. That not everyone agrees on in the future if if the dollar loses its value to a point where now we're going into decentralized currencies then there's this potential for a more tribalist type of society where you may not be conducting commerce. With certain groups of people and I think there's going to be an opportunity for these groups to segment and now I'm only go do business with people who are using these four currencies which I also use because the people that use these currencies share the same values and so whereas. Previously things were done geographically or by nationality things are now split up by individual values and and can be distributed throughout the entire world instantaneously and so I think that as far as the friendship goes and. Ah, social goes and economics go is having um you know if things deteriorate socially in in society as as it seems they they may go right now. It's good to make those friends have that person on board. You know have. 3 electricians on board have a few farmers that you're in contact with because the way that things have been done right now is there's a lot of single points of failure. For instance, you know through regulation Usda. You know you have to have a Usda butcher butchering the meat for it to be shipped across state lines and now you have these states that have almost no ability to birch butcher animals and distribute food and so ah, there's gonna be I think that there's gonna be a time where we. |
| 13:56.25 | mikebledsoe | We actually have to create our own network instead of just relying on I'll just go to the grocery store and pick this shit up and I've already begun doing that I've been on the phone with a woman just last week where we she she's in contact with regenerative farms and and it's helping distribute those goods locally. So. It's I think that yeah being able to just go online and pull up a technician to do this or that may become more difficult in the future and I think that the level of responsibility for having to create those connections yourself may go up. |
| 14:33.99 | Max Shank | Yeah I mean unfortunately the closer you get to the barter system the less comparative advantage you have because you have to have an agreed upon currency. That's the whole advantage of money. |
| 14:49.46 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 14:52.87 | Max Shank | Is that it makes it so easy to trade Things. We would never have been able to produce computers and yachts and trucks and all these crazy things like if you think about it I'm in shock when I. Drive my truck around because of how impossible it would be for me to make anything like that. Even if I knew exactly how to make it and what that's that's what I'm That's what I'm saying it would be. |
| 15:21.40 | mikebledsoe | I would totally not make it I could have every step laid out and be given all the parts still not doing it. Yeah. |
| 15:29.63 | Max Shank | It would be impossible just to gather. The materials would be Impossible. So The fact that we figured out how to trade with each other in such a hyper efficient way is the only thing that has allowed us to do all that so you know it. It's frustrating sometimes because the only thing a leader really needs to do is not fuck up the money and not get into any ah Wars or conflicts. That's actually the only thing a leader really needs to do ah and if you do those things though. |
| 15:58.47 | mikebledsoe | Ah. |
| 16:07.37 | Max Shank | It gets really bad so preparing for those eventualities is valuable I think gosh you know we can start getting into the nuts and bolts of preparedness. Certainly it's good to own at least. 1 property because you got to live somewhere and as the money devalues because we don't know if it'll be hyperinflation or stagflation or we we can't predict those sorts of things. |
| 16:43.68 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, the the the variables that are currently present have never been present before we we are in a black swan event. So we have no idea what the result will be. |
| 16:44.26 | Max Shank | But rents. |
| 16:53.11 | Max Shank | Yeah, we don't know what's going to happen next exactly. But it's good to have an Id in your mind just have your best guess because I think we've talked about it once before it's like buying Insurance. You don't ah buy insurance for. Everything you just buy insurance based on what is legally required or based on what probability you assign to a certain thing happening right? So What is the probability that the value of a dollar or you know let's say that just a. Keep it simple suddenly a gallon of gas is $200 and you're like whoa. This is really bad but then you have to in your mind assign a probability to that. Oh and a certain timeframe and it gets very difficult to do those things. So. |
| 17:43.75 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 17:50.99 | Max Shank | Barring that which is unknowable. What do we know for sure that will not change and that is human nature will not change and so if you are productive yourself and you provide a skill or a service or a product that people will always want. That's always going to be very valuable so that's like your your functional safety net. What function do you perform. |
| 18:15.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I I think about the 2 things that that I am I do I was talking to Ashley about this Saturday which is I secure my future by continually creating value and investing in emerging economies or emerging. Technologies and if I do those 2 things I'm not really that worried about my financial future now the other the other the 2 other f's we were talking about It's not relevant as relevant to that I mean the creating value is pretty relevant to the the. The friendships the social piece because if you're valuable people will want to be your friend. |
| 18:53.24 | Max Shank | Is. |
| 18:59.80 | Max Shank | No question I think that having a group of people that you can be open and honest with who have your back and you have their back. You can't really put a price on that. So. It's good to nurture those things on a regular basis. That's really not natural for me to do I tend to be more in my own head working on projects and not really think to just reach out to people but it's something that I've gotten a little bit better with and it makes a difference. You know invite a friend out to lunch or throw a frisbee around and it can go a really long way, especially given what's going on right now where people have probably been socializing less than ever in Maybe any society for a very long Time. You know. I Guess ah neighboring Hunter gatherers probably socialized with ah their neighbors less than we do, but it's It's not a lot so reinforcing Those relationships is huge. |
| 20:04.52 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and they didn't have ah well what? what's interesting is in the last couple years. The amount of actual social interactions gone way down, but the but the we'll call it the the fast food of. |
| 20:19.55 | Max Shank | Basement. |
| 20:24.36 | mikebledsoe | Social engagement has gone up. You know the Facebook instagram all the social media platforms. So I remember I was listening to a thing that what's his name. The guy the dilbert guy. What's his name Scott Adams he was talking a guy anyways. Um. |
| 20:34.87 | Max Shank | Scott Adams |
| 20:43.28 | mikebledsoe | Brilliant in some ways not in others but he he was talking. Yeah come on now I Well he would. |
| 20:46.30 | Max Shank | Not like you. You're brilliant in every way wait but real quick though he has an excellent Youtube video on writing just and the reason I'm plugging. It is. It's free. It's maybe a half hour long and writing. Or communication is one of the most high yield skills. There is so give give that a look in terms of securing your future. |
| 21:08.12 | mikebledsoe | It is yeah writing copywriting if you can write copy that is just you're able to write things that cause people to buy shit then you'll never go hungry. Ah yeah, so. |
| 21:23.89 | Max Shank | No way. |
| 21:28.40 | mikebledsoe | So Scott Adams was talking about somebody was challenged saying you know social interaction has gone down. He was like really seems like you know social interaction is higher than ever online and and that's why I say maybe he's not all that smart because he was making an argument for. Being we have more social interaction we ever have which is being dictated by algorithms and and you know of course humans tend to to create their own bubbles for sure like I surround myself with light-minded people where there's not a high level of disagreement. Ah, but the. |
| 21:48.92 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 21:57.50 | Max Shank | Oh yeah. |
| 22:04.55 | mikebledsoe | When there is disagreement. We can actually have a conversation and work our way through it whereas online that doesn't really happen. It just further divide is what happens and so um, you know a lot some people even people who are considered to be really brilliant like Scott Adams who who is brilliant in a lot of ways. You know he challenges that and I don't know what kind of world he lives in where he think and he may not have experienced that at all. He may have been surrounded by friends this whole time. Um, but. |
| 22:30.70 | Max Shank | Well, it also is a personality type difference and you know I've read a bunch of his books and they're very good. He's a hyper Introvert So this situation for him is almost perfect. |
| 22:41.31 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 22:47.10 | mikebledsoe | Probably been calming. He's probably been able to chill out. |
| 22:49.20 | Max Shank | He gets to he gets to hang out at home more. There are a lot less social obligations that you have to fulfill. Um, it's never been a better time for introverts and ugly people because you can stay home all day and put a mask over your face. |
| 23:05.86 | mikebledsoe | Um, well there was a did you see the study that people people now find other people more generally more attractive when wearing a mask. |
| 23:08.89 | Max Shank | Ugly introverts have never lived so good. Ah. |
| 23:18.64 | Max Shank | I mean it works in ah Saudi Arabia oh very mysterious. Ah, but you know someone like that. |
| 23:22.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I mean to that point I've been in the Middle East and I I was on a deployment I hadn't seen hardly any women for months and then I arrived somewhere where they're wearing the. Full facial covering all I can see with their eyes. So sexy. My imagination just fucking went wild. It didn't take very long at all couple months. No women and then full on Bura and that was it's true and I've seen I've seen some people where I've been on the airplane. |
| 23:43.89 | Max Shank | Now we're talking totally yeah, totally. |
| 23:59.66 | mikebledsoe | Like oh that girl looks pretty good. She pulls her mask down like ah. |
| 24:00.42 | Max Shank | Right? Well, it's like why guys grow beards so we can hide the bottom half of our face. It's like you don't know if I have a chin. Maybe I have a really strong chin. Ah. |
| 24:14.53 | mikebledsoe | That's right. |
| 24:16.99 | Max Shank | There are a lot of examples of what you're talking about with Scott Adams there and I think ah nasim Nicholas Teleleb is another good example where you have people who are really intelligent in 1 regard and then they just are so far off the mark in another regard and. We're so locked into this cause-effect relationship for health and we're trapped by the way that we do experiments and who runs the experiments and who pays for the experiment. So if you're. Taking everything very literally. You're only doing what is proven ah proven quote by science quote again, you're not going to recognize the value of sharing the same physical space with another person. You know you and i. Have explored that realm quite a lot where even just being in the same room as someone if you're not saying anything can be a really rewarding experience and it can bring you a lot of joy. And calmness and peace and resonance. There's a harmonization of 2 living beings and if you are caught up in the explicit and more material. Sort of thing you're going to discount the value of that and so in a sense you're right? It's it's easier to socialize now than ever through a screen ah through the telephone and it's better than nothing but it's not the same. |
| 26:07.51 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I'll go back to what you're saying like the the quote unquote proven for people who aren't seeing the video of us is anytime anyone starts talking about something's being proven to me. That's an immediate red flag. Someone goes. Oh. It's proven that that I go immediately I I Dis If if they got a Ph D beside their name or they consider themselves a scientist I in my from my perspective they just discredited themselves because any good scientists look saying the word proven. Is a marketing term. It's not a scientific term.. There are very few Proofs in Science. There's the only time you would talk about Proofs in Science is it's It's a mathematical equation. It's a it's hardcore physics. There are laws involved anything else. |
| 26:46.96 | Max Shank | Totally. |
| 27:03.00 | mikebledsoe | What I want to hear from somebody who's a scientist I Want to hear is there is evidence to suggest that http://dot.dot the problem is it's not a very good marketing.. It's not a good way to convince people of taking your side So just want to throw that out there. So as you're listening to. Quote unquote scientists out there talking about what's being proven and what's not usually if they're a bureaucrat in some way and they've got a Ph D and they start saying that I I immediately you know start questioning. Whatever it is. They're saying. |
| 27:35.54 | Max Shank | Well, it's like ah the phrase caused by cells way more than correlates with correlates with doesn't sell shit and if we don't know. |
| 27:45.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 27:53.81 | Max Shank | The best diet for people which we can't know because I don't know if you know this but people are different this whole idea that we should all eat the same stuff is freaking Insane yeah you and I we should all We should all take the same medication. Ah, you know. |
| 27:57.57 | mikebledsoe | Ah, no should we should We take the same medications to globally you know. |
| 28:12.16 | Max Shank | We should. We should all eat soybeans for the greater good too. Probably yeah, no correlation versus causation is probably my biggest gripe and it has to do with essentially gang mentality people are trying to protect their authority. And make these claims that x causes y when really it's just that x correlates with y and it would be a lot easier to have a conversation about that if there wasn't such a fanaticism around these things. Let's have an open conversation about correlation. Versus causation and god it's it's hard to see if you're not in the industry yourself, but the amount of people throwing $10 words around is like so unnecessary. Maybe that just irks me because. I I know what those words mean but I also know that it just makes it harder for the individual to understand and when you say something like post brandial forward ambulation. Why don't you just say go for a walk after you eat. So so it's like so ridiculous to me? well but that's just yeah, that's just it. It sounds much fancier if you use these fancy terms and that that is what sells and um. |
| 29:29.30 | mikebledsoe | Ah, well I won't I won't sound smart to the other scientists I won't be able to impress people. |
| 29:46.73 | Max Shank | You have to protect yourself from that speaking of securing your future I think making sure you can't make sure all the way but making sure you don't get swindled by the popularity paradox and the popularity paradox is something I use to describe. The fact that um things that are popular are usually only so because they're striking or different.. It's like a purple cow is going to be more attention grabbing but you probably shouldn't eat. It. |
| 30:23.29 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, that the more popular something is the more I I question it something that like I just look at Mainstream and I've had people ask me and they go. Why are you? Why are you so extreme and. So alternative in every area of your life. It seems like if I if I uncover an aspect in my Life. You will go Wow. You're so extreme or whatever and I go look if it's mainstream if everybody is agreeing on it I start asking questions. And I start looking the opposite way because I'm just looking at the results of the mainstream if the results of the mainstream were you know, ah beautifully healthy bodies financially secure and everything was going really great I would pay attention to what the mainstream is. |
| 30:58.74 | Max Shank | The. |
| 31:05.94 | Max Shank | Totally. |
| 31:16.55 | mikebledsoe | Doing and and follow suit. But when I look at the mainstream I go the results of what's happening in the mainstream are so poor that to listen to any of those people giving advice on how to live life or to do things their way. And it would just be sad and for people who understand Health and fitness the the food pyramid's a great example of of that or the most the most predominant food in the grocery store is corn and there's all these there's there's. |
| 31:39.27 | Max Shank | For. |
| 31:46.90 | Max Shank | A. |
| 31:51.54 | mikebledsoe | There are these things like the food pyramid and and the predominance of corn that bring into question is like oh should I be eating corn if that's what everyone else is eating and they look like shit and ah and should I be eating like the food pyramid because the average person. They've been exposed. That's the only information they've really been exposed to on how to eat and they look and feel like shit. So let's look at something else. So the same thing with with economics and with investing you know if everyone's doing an ira. Everyone's doing an Ira and doing ah a. This and that and s and p five hundred I I look you might be able to have your investment match inflation. Hopefully probably not this year but in previous years you you probably outperformed it just kind of depends on here and there. But. You know the average person is not making that kind of investment but even out of the people who are investing the mainstream is that and there returns the amount of money you have to to invest in order to retire if you're gonna put it into a typical ira or something like that is ridiculous. You have to start investing in your twenty s and hopefully you'll be able to take some out in your 60 s. And it just it that to me does not make any sense so I look at alternative investing strategies as well and so and to me that's where I was talking about investing in in emerging technology. So web 3.0 to me right now is the emerging technology anything that's web 3 o is interesting to me tesla stock is interesting to me there. There. Ah, there's a new. Ah there's a new. Strategy for mining bitcoin that Exxon Mobileil has put into place but there's also some small companies that have ah partnered with some some oil drilling companies that the flair. So. There's a lot of methane gas that's produced when drilling for oil and that's where you see those fire stacks and they're just letting that air out well burning up that methane and creating a lot of co 2 in fact, and they're being taxed on that co 2 but they figured out how to capture that methane. And use that as a fuel for servers to mine cryptocurrencies and so now they're going to save 50% on their taxes and they're now mining cryptocurrencies. So to me I look at that and go that's a very clever emerging technology that's based on. |
| 34:21.73 | Max Shank | There you go. |
| 34:37.71 | mikebledsoe | What's happening and and blockchain and web 3.0 and so I'm looking at all this and I go that's where I want to put my attention. Ah the majority of it for me and of course I'm I'm someone who's who's always trying to stay ahead of the curve and not be in the mainstream. |
| 34:54.63 | Max Shank | Investment Strategy can look a lot of different ways. You can get very rich selling wood pellets. Ah I I tend to do kind of the opposite of what you're talking about which is more more to look at things that are. |
| 34:56.40 | mikebledsoe | So. |
| 35:08.22 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 35:14.39 | Max Shank | Generating cash and creating real profit right now that has a bad public perception If we're talking about individual companies to invest in something that people need something that is delivered at a profit. Something that isn't going to change in the future but there are a lot of things that get publicly beaten down because they're not. They don't sound as cool. Um, so it's tricky. The truth is though if you don't know. |
| 35:41.00 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 35:50.90 | Max Shank | Ah, you can spend the time to teach yourself, but you probably would be better off investing in growing your own business I Assume most of the people listening to this own their own business. So um, investing into your own ability to generate income and then investing into a single. Property that you can live in so you're not just spending money on rent every month before you worry about investing into other companies because you can get a way better return betting on yourself. |
| 36:17.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 36:23.36 | mikebledsoe | Well that that's a predominant view and which which I held for a long time which is if I'm going to reinvest in my business What's what's a better place to reinvest the problem is I I lacked diversity. And my portfolio basically and so my business didn't do well which is not always in my control then now I'm fucked to so the the frame that I've I've adopted in the last year is I treat my business as an income producing asset. |
| 36:40.56 | Max Shank | Right? right? totally. |
| 36:59.67 | mikebledsoe | It's not a place to build Wealth Wealth is built by other high leverage income producing Income Producing assets and what I'm looking for is the highest leverage that means it requires the least amount of effort for me to get the highest returns possible. |
| 37:18.58 | Max Shank | So investing. Basically. |
| 37:18.97 | mikebledsoe | And so if I'm investing my own. Yeah, but if I'm investing in my own business and I'm still working in my business. It's actually not a very high leverage. But if I become a a true. Yeah, well you want to become a I don't think anything is passive. But. |
| 37:26.14 | Max Shank | Right? I see so you're talking about passive investing right. |
| 37:37.38 | mikebledsoe | Some is more active than others and so like even in the stock market. |
| 37:41.29 | Max Shank | Passive meaning you're not doing any work or management. You know you can trade certainly but right, but okay so you could hire you could hire a fund manager you could hire a fund manager I suppose would be the the. |
| 37:45.11 | mikebledsoe | Um, that's still managing though you're stopping a you're giving it energy. Yeah, you do it all the politicians do yeah so and they can claim that they they oh I didn't know I was investing in Lockheed Martin 24 hours before the war with Russia was announced. |
| 37:56.92 | Max Shank | Least effort. What's that what. |
| 38:11.39 | Max Shank | Ah, well. |
| 38:13.51 | mikebledsoe | There's ah that you Nancy Pelosi you know one of the the biggest offenders of taking advantage of inside knowledge for the purpose of investing there was a Twitter account that tweeted every one of her trades. |
| 38:19.55 | Max Shank | Um, oh yeah, yeah, what a surprise. |
| 38:30.81 | mikebledsoe | And then Twitter bandit which is a very interesting thing. Yeah, but going back to I really like to put money I think you're right invest in your own ability to create value so that you can continue to have income that produces income initial income. And then ah you know own a home so that you're not just paying rent because she does hit the fan and look my mortgage is set I'm paying the same amount. The the dollar could lose half its value which it may and. Which basically means I got a cheaper house and what good for me. But if I was paying rent. What what do you think? Rent's going to do rent's gonna go. It's gonna skyrocket. It has to so actually if you're a homeowner you almost want and and most of your stuff's in real estate inflation. |
| 39:10.96 | Max Shank | You're locked in. |
| 39:16.74 | Max Shank | Um, it has to. |
| 39:27.76 | mikebledsoe | Could be seen as ah as a positive thing hyperinflation is not because that's just disrupts the entire economy. But yeah, so and then the third one is so invest in your own ability to create value and get your property and then invest in high leverage assets things that just produce income which I think is what you were saying what you want to. Investment things that are throwing off cash now not something where I'm going to put money in and hopefully it goes up in value and I'll be able to take some out the future is that accurate. |
| 39:55.80 | Max Shank | Yeah, yes, and it's tricky too because um, if there was an investment that didn't follow the rules of risk and reward everyone would invest into it so risk and reward are proportional and. |
| 40:07.88 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 40:13.95 | Max Shank | If you buy I don't know let's say Tesla right now you're probably not going to hundred x your money over the next few years I don't see how it could happen I'm already stunned that that company is worth so much. It makes no sense is divorced. |
| 40:21.21 | mikebledsoe | No. |
| 40:33.60 | Max Shank | It's divorced from reality. Um, so we could have a separate conversation about that. But there are companies that you could purchase that can hundred x over the next couple years but they can also go to 0 |
| 40:45.19 | mikebledsoe | Um, um. |
| 40:51.39 | Max Shank | So The risk is much higher and the reward is much higher. So If you're looking to diversify your wealth then it would make sense to be really clear on that risk reward. You can. Only gain more if you risk more generally speaking if it's going to be a passive investment because you're not in control of what a cryptocurrency is going to do. You're not in control of what a company's going to do and usually the the more secure it is the less volatile it is. |
| 41:26.41 | mikebledsoe | yeah yeah I I this is where you and I differ because you you tend to go more on the conservative route and so that the 2 things I invest the 2 things I've invested in so far. Ah. |
| 41:28.55 | Max Shank | The less It has the potential to grow. So. |
| 41:36.55 | Max Shank | Is true. |
| 41:44.20 | mikebledsoe | The most heavily has been startups and the second would be crypto and I've 2 of the 3 are winners and the but 1 of them which was my biggest investment ah went to 0 in a month |
| 41:51.11 | Max Shank | M. |
| 42:01.10 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 42:02.50 | mikebledsoe | So I was just I basically just took money put it in the toilet and flushed it that one hurt and I I learned to I yeah I learned I learned to vet a little better. Um and then cryptocurrencies. |
| 42:06.45 | Max Shank | Might as well have bought a boat. |
| 42:13.37 | Max Shank | Well, you have a different skill set too. You have a different skill set too. So your investment style matches your personality type it matches your skill set. You have a lot of experience with startups I've got almost. |
| 42:21.19 | mikebledsoe | E a. Um, I Also spot Trends in the Market. Um I'm very good at seeing patterns in the market and I can tell when people are going to be interested in something. |
| 42:35.33 | Max Shank | Can you can you let me know next time you have one of these predictions nostra Daic Theta a crypt the cryptocurrency which could certainly go to 0 right. |
| 42:42.18 | mikebledsoe | Theta Theta Yeah, yeah, it's got utility. Um I doubt it because a lot.. It's a video streaming. It's got a video streaming utility and a lot of it. Big video streaming companies have already adopted it it it ah it reduces the amount of Bandwidth necessary to exchange more data I don't know how the fuck it works but it works Um, and. |
| 43:12.73 | Max Shank | Sounds like the the the company from that show Silicon Valley pied piper like takes your data and makes it smaller. That's one of the greatest shows ever as hilarious. |
| 43:20.75 | mikebledsoe | That's right I Love that show. Ah, it's a good show. Oh man. Yeah, if you if you're in the entrepreneurial world or ever been around startup ah in the startup world. It's It's ah pretty good. |
| 43:35.41 | Max Shank | You can win more by not diversifying all the richest people the fastest didn't diversify Zuckerberg no diversity. Ah Elon Musk not they're not diversifying. It's like a a spike. There's no. |
| 43:37.29 | mikebledsoe | Ah. |
| 43:42.82 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 43:53.52 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, no. |
| 43:53.68 | Max Shank | Well-roundedness to the investment. There's no there's no pyramid of like I have some here and some here and some here and some here and you can go further and you can earn more and you can also lose everything so you just have to find the appetite for risk reward that will. Allow you to sleep at night because if you earn a little bit less but you sleep soundly every night. It's probably a good idea and there's a good phrase to be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy. And if you can avoid being too greedy. You won't be ah you know having heart palpitations when you're thirty years old because you're worried that you know all your investments are gonna go to 0 so you just gotta you gotta to match that. |
| 44:44.76 | mikebledsoe | Oh yeah, what? but. |
| 44:49.68 | Max Shank | Mentality and what kind of Lifestyle you want to live and I feel like the advantage with investing and with insurance and if you want to stockpile food and cash and gold and that kind of thing. It's ah set it and forget it. You don't want to be. Thinking about it all the time that defeats the purpose of buying Insurance. You know. |
| 45:10.64 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, but this whole thing reminds me of my girlfriend and I about we had been dating for about five or six months and you know I I was heavily investing in crypto and and. She had some money to invest in something. Yeah, you might want to look at crypto I can't tell you what to invest in I'm not you know I'm just saying hey I I like my returns have been pretty fucking. Good. This is the an example of what can happen and I've been pretty conservative so in the crypto world I'm conservative. Ah. I'm not looking for I'm not looking for the unicorns right? So there's you know, really solid fundamentals and all this because well part of it is because I I look at the dot com era and I see a lot of. |
| 45:48.41 | Max Shank | Blows blows my mind. Um, yeah. |
| 46:05.97 | mikebledsoe | Similarities between web 3.0 and and http://the.comboom bust and which means that 99% of the your invest of of these companies these coins all these these nfts they're all going to go to nothing ah but 1% is going to become. You know Google Youtube Twitter Facebook you know these these new things will emerge so pay attention and invest in things and you don't have to get in that early if you want to make if you want to turn you know $10000 into a b. Then yeah, you might have to get in and when something's selling at ¢3 ah per per coin. But I'll get in when it's 10 or fifteen I don't give a shit because it's going to 500 I mean I'm gonna get a ah hundred x out of it. So um, yeah, that. Um, I'm fairly conservative. My girlfriend gets into the market and she is checking it every day and you know it's going up and she's so excited it goes down. She's she's like what the fuck freaking out and I go stop looking at that shit the only the only time you should look at it is if it's not going to. |
| 47:06.57 | Max Shank | Is it. |
| 47:15.90 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 47:21.46 | mikebledsoe | Either You have the the constitution to where it's not going to bother you. You're not getting an emotional swing out of it being good or bad or you like what you were saying is set and forget it buy a bunch of cryptocurrencies and then put it on a decentralized wallet somewhere folks not not an exchange. |
| 47:26.28 | Max Shank | Home. |
| 47:41.32 | mikebledsoe | Not on coinbase not on Voyager get on a decentralized wallet like trust wallet and or exodus. |
| 47:50.50 | Max Shank | I'm I'm waiting for Mike's investing handbook. It sounds like you have a figured out man. |
| 47:53.69 | mikebledsoe | I Ah my I'm gonna be working with my buddy he he built a course I'm trying to get him I want to interview him and then promo the course because I the the information I've gotten from him has been incredibly valuable. |
| 48:11.30 | Max Shank | Nice there you go. |
| 48:12.54 | mikebledsoe | And he knows what the fuck he's talking about he comes from the financial background so he used to be in in bait he used to be in banking and then he's and and so you know he he worked in debt and then he got into crypto so the guy the guy's been thinking about money for twenty plus years in ways that we haven't. And but yeah, set it and forget it. |
| 48:34.22 | Max Shank | You know what you were saying what you were saying earlier about your girlfriend there checking it all the time you know you wouldn't check the value of your house every single day if you owned a house. Oh my god. |
| 48:45.68 | mikebledsoe | Oh she does that too. We just bought a house. She's like checking the value the homes in the area because because because the market is actually moving really fast where we live. It's like oh we probably already made like $50000 like maybe. |
| 49:01.33 | Max Shank | Well yeah, maybe and you know, checking something like that all the time can can be good if if you're a trader if you're looking to move stuff around quickly and when you have a smaller account. It's easier to move more of your. |
| 49:12.69 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 49:20.62 | Max Shank | Percentage of your portfolio more quickly so you have more agility and you could be more nimble but it kind of reminds me, you were talking about the pelosi trading thing earlier and I was just thinking about how. We have technology like never before just based on technology Alone. We should all be working less and earning more and living healthier and living longer. But we don't and there are all these traps out there. |
| 49:46.15 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 49:56.28 | Max Shank | And people check every day like oh what's going on in the world and it's probably it's It's probably the biggest trap there is because it takes you out of the here and now the flow which is the only thing that's going to. |
| 50:01.48 | mikebledsoe | Um, that's the same thing right? Yeah yeah. |
| 50:14.94 | Max Shank | Really bring you fulfillment when you become the task. Whatever it is. You're doing um people who retire early they gotta find something to do ah sometimes the only thing they find to do is drinking themselves to an early grave. So. You get these people. Maybe they owned a chain of dental offices retire at 40 They got to go out on the golf course or learn carpentry or start a band with their other old friends at the country Club. You got to do something and you got to do something that takes you into the here and now and into that flow. And the worst thing you can do is try to stay abreast of things that have no ah that you have no chance of influencing your life in a positive way as a result of knowing these things So when I think about. The Ah Friend safety Net which is really like a psychological safety net because you should be your own. Best friend Hopefully ah, you're you're abusing yourself mentally by trying to stay on top of what's going on and oh this.? Ah. Dude is winning at swimming against the ladies and I'm outraged about it and what the fuck it's like who cares? are you gonna do something about it. No then like just live your life and it's hard because it's very entertaining I think getting trapped. |
| 51:33.67 | mikebledsoe | A. |
| 51:49.40 | Max Shank | Into a tribal identity is like 1 of the worst things you can do you're like oh I identify as he him or she her or I identify as trans or maybe I I could identify as black or whatever. |
| 52:05.57 | mikebledsoe | Or even liberal or conservative. |
| 52:07.50 | Max Shank | Ah, well God Yeah, why would you want to like wear their logo on your t-shirt like are you out of your mind. They don't care about you? Um, so I think about that as being one of the biggest traps there is I think. |
| 52:23.43 | mikebledsoe | Well you you you don't have to ah those traps work because. |
| 52:25.70 | Max Shank | If Your identity is if your identity is based on. Ah if your identity is based on a group it means that your individual character is Worthless. You're like looking for something Oh I'm part of this group. Not. I'm me and I can do this this that or the other thing is just I'm on this team if that's all you have to offer is I'm on this Team. You suck as a person probably. |
| 52:54.10 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well, it's easy you you can stop thinking for yourself and adopt whatever somebody is telling you you should be mad about or what you should care about because you now fit into this this group identity and it's um. |
| 52:59.38 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 53:13.71 | mikebledsoe | It's really really sad. Yeah, it's really really sad, but and it's hard for us to tell people this because I've told people this before and they're like well it's easy. You're a white guy and I was like I was like yeah what did you see? did you see ah somebody posted the other day. |
| 53:13.87 | Max Shank | It's mental illness. It's mental illness. It's like it's like if you. |
| 53:26.20 | Max Shank | I'm a black lady How dare you assume my race or gender. |
| 53:33.20 | mikebledsoe | About ah the if you identify as a woman as ah as a woman owned business. So if your business is owned by a woman then you have all this access to these government grants and all this all this stuff and I was like oh this is brilliant I can just. |
| 53:44.70 | Max Shank | Amazing. |
| 53:49.94 | mikebledsoe | Identify as a woman because it obviously doesn't seem to be a problem right now and some people were posting like oh then you would get you know that would be fraud I'm like okay so do we have men and women or or are we going to reward some people for. Being born a certain way. |
| 54:08.40 | Max Shank | You know it's kind of like these otherwise healthy people are electing to participate in Schizophrenia every day by the way they're using their computers. Like plugging into the hive mind to have all these voices yelling at them of they should be this way or they should be this way and then they're yelling back into the void. No, you should be this way fucker and it's like whoa my God and look we have. |
| 54:33.26 | mikebledsoe | Ah. |
| 54:40.49 | Max Shank | Such crazy technology. We have so much leverage potential at our fingertips and we're using it to yell at a stranger about something We don't have any nuanced opinion of we're just carrying water for someone else who's trying to blind us all to the fact that. |
| 54:52.25 | mikebledsoe | No. |
| 54:57.51 | mikebledsoe | Um, are you carrying water for Putin Oh my gosh. Um. |
| 55:00.37 | Max Shank | Ah I don't carry water for anybody. But I recognize but I recognize but I recognize that carrying water blindly for Ukraine isn't necessarily a good idea either and I have the confidence to admit that I don't know a god damn thing about North Asian Fucking Politics you know what? I'm saying it's it's crazy that everyone has such a strong opinion about these things but all it does is distract all it does is distract from you know I feel like a ah a record that's just on repeats like the only thing that really matters is jurisdiction. |
| 55:20.54 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well, it's it's funny because if you come out with no opinion. |
| 55:39.44 | Max Shank | And Authority who's in charge and when do do they get to police that authority of theirs and if you're a leader. The only thing you shouldn't do is fuck up the money or get into Wars and that's what's happening and we're all just like but what about this guy swimming. |
| 55:43.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 55:58.92 | mikebledsoe | Um, ah it's incredible. |
| 56:01.50 | Max Shank | It's like yes it Yes, it's stupid. Yes, it's stupid. Okay, but also there's there's not like a healthy priority list. You know I'm saying it's it's insane. |
| 56:09.91 | mikebledsoe | Oh I totally get it why why does why was that the most talked about thing for 2 or 3 days last week when. |
| 56:19.20 | Max Shank | Because it's hiding other stuff that was way more sinister. No question and look if it bleeds it leads I get it. But you don't have to participate in it. You will definitely live more angrily. If you are constantly plugging into that thing and I get really excited about it because I've coached a lot of people both ah business wise coaching training wise and as soon as you realize that the biggest limiting factor in getting what you want is you. |
| 56:39.15 | mikebledsoe | Are. |
| 56:52.74 | Max Shank | Then your whole perspective changes about everything because that's also the only thing that you have control over. Yeah I think ah. |
| 56:53.97 | mikebledsoe | But but it's much easier to blame other people for my lack come on. How am I supposed to use my scapegoats to feel better about myself for not doing shit. |
| 57:06.62 | Max Shank | You know what that makes sense I I would be so much better off if that guy wasn't swimming against the ladies. It's I think that's where the most of my problems are being caused good God man. Okay, so. |
| 57:16.65 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah. |
| 57:24.88 | Max Shank | What do we got here. We have. Um, we have a culture the the culture is sick but the technology is awesome. So if you can avoid participating in the culture at large and create a group a family ah of friends and relationships that engage in. Healthy Behavior. You essentially have the keys to the Kingdom psychologically if if you pretty much avoid the media ah and focus on improving your own life. That's also the best way to lead is. By example, you know you just live your life The way you want to on your terms. And you'll be way better off and you'll find that you have lots more time. Everyone's like oh I'm so busy I'm so busy, but the the truth is it's more of ah, a verbal tick to let people know that you're not Lazy. It's not I don't have time I'm so Busy. You're basically just telling them I'm not lazy I'm not lazy I'm not lazy right? but. |
| 58:23.93 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, or I have a I have a terrible method for setting priorities. |
| 58:30.42 | Max Shank | I Can't prioritize my life even with space age technology I can't prioritize my life even with space age technology I'm so busy I'm so busy I have no time I have no time I have no time. It's ridiculous. So ah, ah. |
| 58:41.62 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I've had I've had students come through. It's It's hilarious students come through and they're like I don't have time to do the program and they're single and living with their mom I go. |
| 58:50.64 | Max Shank | And. |
| 58:59.28 | mikebledsoe | You don't have time to do the pro. What what are you doing like you're 23 like what do you? You think you don't have time right now this is gonna be a rough one. There's gonna be a rough life for you. |
| 59:10.40 | Max Shank | It feel like we got a little off the rails there I think I I think I I think I took us I think I took us right off the rails. You know I get all fired up sometimes. |
| 59:14.18 | mikebledsoe | We did all right? Let's go Back. It's definitely all your fault. Um, so all right? So securing your future fitness we'll we'll ah we'll start wrapping here. Securing your future fitness How tos. |
| 59:31.78 | Max Shank | Walk a lot. Um, learn how to prevent falling which is stepping and lunging and learn how to prepare for falling which is rolling and falling. Is a really good example of risk and reward because the probability that you will fall is basically 100%. You're not going to live your life without falling now given a fall There's maybe a less than 1% chance that you will die or maybe a 1 % chance that you will die but a 1 % chance of death should be plenty of motivation to learn how to fall well and learn how to lunge so that you can prevent falling and that's because even though the risk ah probability wise is very low. You will kill yourself in a fall the cost of that error is total death total annihilation so because the cost is so high even if the probability is low. You want to prepare yourself for falling and then the last. |
| 01:00:39.45 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, you know what it might have been I want to interject here because it might have been you. It might have been another coach that I've been interacting with over the last decade who knows but they talked about a relationship to the ground and ah was a you that use that terminology. Okay. |
| 01:00:44.55 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 01:00:52.91 | Max Shank | Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. |
| 01:00:59.31 | mikebledsoe | And and I remember talking to you about that and I really when I started holding that frame my training shifted and I became ah I prioritized my relationship to the ground and then I anytime I came across like my. Ah, like older people in my family I would talk to their their. Yeah they well they fall into bed So The bed is about hip height so they can just like roll into bed. They can roll out and then they. |
| 01:01:22.59 | Max Shank | They're afraid of the ground they're afraid of the ground a lot of time they're afraid Chest high. |
| 01:01:35.77 | mikebledsoe | They they fall back into the recliner they fall into their car. They get out. They sit in their office chair. They fall into their office chair. It's all it's got to be cushy and they have no practice whatsoever. Getting up and down off the ground. So a lot of like older family members and things like that they asked me about how to be in better shape because I walk in they're like wow you're 40 so got a 6 pack. Yeah so how do you do that I go well at first I work on my relationship to the ground and then I teach them how to. Get up and down off the ground which basically means like let's get all the way down and then you'll figure it out but practice that and I I put my you're the same way cause I've seen your bed. The bed is on the floor because I know that if I practice if I sleep on the floor that's guaranteed. |
| 01:02:09.60 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 01:02:23.47 | mikebledsoe | I'm gonna get up and I'm gonna get down at least once that entire day off the ground if I do that for the rest of my life. It's not gonna be a problem for me whereas for most people it is so I just wanna throw that in there because that was so valuable. |
| 01:02:32.33 | Max Shank | A. |
| 01:02:39.51 | mikebledsoe | Ah, such a valuable frame for me to adopt. |
| 01:02:40.74 | Max Shank | I Think our listeners are just wondering why you've seen my bed. |
| 01:02:50.26 | mikebledsoe | I've seen his steam room too. |
| 01:02:50.63 | Max Shank | Hey now it wasn't steamy before you got in there. Ah I couldn't I can't help myself. Ah and also ah bone density being being able to support ah heavy-ish. |
| 01:02:57.40 | mikebledsoe | I Hope what else in. |
| 01:03:10.22 | Max Shank | Amount of force with your skeleton being able to carry stuff very um, important skills. Um, that's actually what my primal athleticism program is all about it's a daily practice primarily for longevity. You're not going to be. Deadlifting £600 you're not going to be cranking out 20 handstand pushups but you're going to learn how to skip and bounce and roll and crawl and fall and climb and carry things and those are some of the most important skills I think. Just because we're in the fitness industry people overemphasize certain things because it's the brand of their cult. You know people are like oh muscle wasting you got to be careful muscle wasting and it's because we're in essentially the muscle business if you're a dude right? ah. |
| 01:04:03.64 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, pretty. |
| 01:04:07.23 | Max Shank | But a lot of skinny people live a really long time. So It's really more important that you are strong and you are able to use your muscles in an adaptable way kind of back to what we talked about before the Chief attribute is elasticity which is really. About adaptability to a wide range of forces at a wide range of angles at a wide range of positions and that's what my elasticity program is all about and it doesn't have to be complicated. Um, you could probably just do TaiChi every day go for walks and. Not eat too much and have friends and live a really long time. Yeah. |
| 01:04:49.30 | mikebledsoe | Love it. So the things I would add on the fitness side is master your breath so learn learn how to breathe well into every part of your body I Like to think about my. |
| 01:04:57.73 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 01:05:07.19 | mikebledsoe | About I'm breathing through a sphere and I'm breathing into the bottom I'm breathing into my back I'm breathing into the top all of that equally I can I can breathe just into the bottom I can breathe just into the top I have control over where the air flows and I do things like tape my mouth shut. At night to make sure that I'm only nose breathing and game changer and I don't have to take my mouth shut for it to stay shut. But I Still do it just to you know, be sure and so ah for. |
| 01:05:29.25 | Max Shank | Breathe through that nose Hell yeah, that's game changer for a lot of folks. |
| 01:05:41.41 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:05:46.42 | mikebledsoe | For that if if your breath isn't handled then you know everything else will fall apart and put in a lot of emphasis. Ah after Breath Spine being able to feel and articulate at each Vertebrae I Found to be extremely useful and I found that once I. Put my attention there. My athleticism overall went up my hand-eye coordination improved all that happened when I started putting attention on the spine and I have no you know Spine pain anymore whereas I used to have a lot of core issues and. |
| 01:06:21.20 | Max Shank | Plus your chakers. We all lined up to line the chakris. |
| 01:06:25.39 | mikebledsoe | Gotta gotta align no chakra's baby and and yeah it ah it helps so those are my 2 big things in regard to movement and then obviously you just got to learn how to eat you got learn what works for you experiment. |
| 01:06:36.11 | Max Shank | The fitness side. |
| 01:06:43.50 | Max Shank | We could do a whole thing on the fitness side of longevity because you know all the moving parts are so important you know your feet taking care of your feet I don't want to drag out this conclusion too long, but there's an old Chinese proverb that says we age from the roots up and I don't necessarily. |
| 01:06:44.91 | mikebledsoe | I'm a big. Yeah. |
| 01:07:03.50 | Max Shank | Live my life by Proverbs I don't know the origin of but I think it is still good to take care of your feet. |
| 01:07:10.28 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, so ah, we're just hitting the top ones all right? Yeah, we could go on and on on that so in regard to finance and the money. What's ah overall securing your future. |
| 01:07:28.40 | Max Shank | Number 1 thing number. Yeah, we sure did I think you gave us a little mini crypto master class there ah teaser it's coming soon. Ah, get get comfortable with less. |
| 01:07:28.91 | mikebledsoe | We we I think we talked primarily about that. But yeah, just quick synopsis. |
| 01:07:47.37 | Max Shank | To start out with you know, you're not gonna find a lot of fulfillment from buying yourself a bunch of toys and being fancy. It's way better to start hungry and stay hungry. Ah eat until you're 80% full, go ahead and defer gratification. You can work for money or you can put money to work for you and people put themselves in debt trying to keep up with the joneses and it's all status games. It's totally not worth It should ah start with a very spartan lifestyle if you're already kind of in. And extravagant mode. But you're not really comfortable with your finances like you know it's a mistake you got to be able to defer gratification for later and those are the people who earn the most is the ones who can. Be a little bit more patient so that's probably the first that's probably the first thing deferred gratification. Don't get into debt. |
| 01:08:46.74 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, ah debt debt is mainstream. So ah, it's incentivized right now. Um I'm not gonna say all debt is bad I carry some debt which I would consider be good debt. |
| 01:09:04.79 | Max Shank | Like a house. |
| 01:09:05.75 | mikebledsoe | But um, like a house something that's low interest. It allows me to free up cash to put into things that are higher return, but my debt is optional if I wanted to clear out my debt right now I could do it. It's just not a financially intelligent move. Um, because where the money's at otherwise is is creating way more earnings than than what I would save on my debt payments on the on the interest. So yeah, kill the debt create Value. So always be. And what I mean by create value is be in touch with the things that other people value. So We we talked about writing as being one of the most valuable things I agree with that learn how to communicate Well ah one of my previous mentors. He wrote a book. Called last safe investment and categorized labor in the 4 categories one was physical labor technical labor creative labor and interpersonal labor and with each one of those the value goes up so labor is physical. Labor is the lowest value technical labor is the second lowest value. And then Creative labor is the next one up and the highest value labor is Interpersonal. So ah, you know writing being Creative. There's technical aspects to it of course but leadership sales things like that being interpersonal copywriting is something that bridges the creative and interpersonal. So. When you're thinking about which what type of labor you want to improve on unless you're going to be a professional athlete. Ah, you're going to probably see the biggest return on developing yourself as a leader or in your creative abilities and then last. Money for me is invest in emerging technology pay attention to what technologies are emerging that's going to be a good wave to catch. But as we talked about you know with emerging Technologies A lot of those will go to nothing. So. Choose wisely. |
| 01:11:16.97 | Max Shank | I I like it you and I have different investing strategies and and it's good I would add to the labor set well enough at all at all what you compare to um. |
| 01:11:24.96 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think we both do we both do? well. So it's neither 1 or wrong. Yeah. |
| 01:11:35.78 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I mean compare. |
| 01:11:36.89 | Max Shank | You know, ah compared to compared to dwayne the rock johnson I'm fat and broke. So it's all it's all the way you compare to but I would add to the labor side of things find at least 1 thing that has an expent. |
| 01:11:43.33 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah. |
| 01:11:55.56 | Max Shank | An exponential return on your time ah write a book make a video course do something where you can invest a lot upfront and it can continue selling forever. Um, that has been. Like a cheat code for me personally the fact that you can make something 1 time and sell it thousands and thousands and thousands of times it is crazy. No no postage required I can so like I can send electrons through the air. Basically. |
| 01:12:24.35 | mikebledsoe | It's pretty cool. That's right that that was the first thing that attracted me to doing anything digital product I go oh I don't have to the inventory is going to cost me the same amount every month. No matter what? which. You know say I I'm paying for a membership site. It's a hundred dollars a month to be able to run the site and and run my email and all that hundred bucks a month. So if I sell 1 or I sell 10000 it cost me the same exact amount of money. Perfect. |
| 01:12:44.77 | Max Shank | Right? wild. |
| 01:12:58.15 | Max Shank | It's so wild to think about what people went through before you know they would mail letters with a return envelope postage paid that sort of thing and hope that people responded and then they would have to ship them something physical afterward. It's a lot of steps. |
| 01:13:05.66 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of stuff all right Friendships social relationships. |
| 01:13:15.93 | Max Shank | So oh you should be your own best friend and don't engage in mind poisoning groups schizophrenia if you can avoid it I know it's interesting and kind of exciting to get angry. Certainly ah use this podcast as an outlet for that. Sometimes I think they just start yelling and Mike's over there like what is going on with this guy I love it. Ah so you you should. You should be your own best friend and. |
| 01:13:38.20 | mikebledsoe | Ah, sorry folks. |
| 01:13:51.54 | Max Shank | Not engaged in things that are harmful for you. You should reach out to people who are the way that you would like to be and genuinely show interest in their lives and ask how you can help them. And it's so Cliche but giving what feels way better than getting actually especially once you've already got a bunch so I would say ah be very selective in who you are friends with because you will become like them and. And reach out even if you don't have a specific reason that's been a hard lesson for me because I haven't done that most of my life unless I have a concrete reason for calling somebody I Never just call to see how they're doing but it can be good if you want to nurture a relationship. It's It's like a garden and. Fuck Man what is life without friends. |
| 01:14:49.95 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, totally agree. Um, yeah on the on the social side on the friends you know I I've had a lot different groups of friends I've lived in different places and you know what if you move cities. You have a huge opportunity to. Make sure that you surround yourself with the right people if you're living in the same place and participating in the same things and going to the same gyms and bars or whatever. It's very hard to change that friend group I've found that every time I moved I I improved my quality of of circle. And I do stay in contact max is one of these I met in San Diego and we still stay in contact even though I moved so you did you did not everyone made it. Ah I did like an irish goodbye for the whole city of San Diego |
| 01:15:36.95 | Max Shank | Survived the mass Breakup You just you just you? you just skip town so you can like ghost. Ah yeah, ah. |
| 01:15:49.16 | mikebledsoe | Just like people were like did you leave town I was like yeah man I moved out six months ago but ah but I ah yeah I have since really gone with how I feel with people versus trying to basic think. Who do I want to surround myself with people I want to be like all that I still do that. It's very nice. It's good to do when I choose to go to an event I go to events I don't go to a hundred dollar event anymore because it's gonna be full of $100 people I want to spend at least 2 3 grand because if it's a. Business related event because I know who I'm gonna be surrounded by people who are willing to drop that kind of cash. So I do think about it in that way but also my my personal friend group here in austin iss really like these are people I feel comfortable with when I lead the conversations. I'm I'm put in a much more positive mood. Ah you know I the the people I hang out with most since I've been here I either I either walk away from hanging out with them with weight with. Almost like it's automatic, subconscious programming that improves my health my wealth or or my relationships in some way like 1 of my friends my my crypto trading friend I hang out with him and the way he talks about money and investing and the energy he holds with that. I soak it up and I become way more positive about it and I start thinking about things differently and a lot of it has to do with how he feels and how he transmits that feeling in a group and so yeah I encourage people pay attention to how you feel when you're with people and after you've been with them. |
| 01:17:22.52 | Max Shank | Ready. |
| 01:17:39.60 | mikebledsoe | And that's going to make a huge difference. |
| 01:17:41.89 | Max Shank | I Think that's a great way to close it out. You gotta trust your gut and see how you feel before during and after you're around certain people. You could say the same thing about food. You gotta trust your gut because no one else is gonna know what you should be eating only your gut knows. |
| 01:17:51.18 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 01:18:01.84 | Max Shank | So sorry I can't tell you exactly how many almonds to eat at nine thirty every morning but you're just gonna have to ah try try it out. Try it out and see how you feel and I think those are the 2 best examples of when to. |
| 01:18:08.94 | mikebledsoe | 18 |
| 01:18:20.29 | Max Shank | Really trust your gut So that's great. Awesome dude. Love you Thanks for listening everybody. |
| 01:18:20.43 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, easy my brother love you have fun today. |