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00:00.00 | mikebledsoe | I Think yeah I did one of those um inner Tube River Lazy River thing never done it before been Whitewater raft and canoeing always in Rivers never did the I'm not can hardly do shit as I let the water take me. |
00:00.00 | Max Shank | Sounds good to me. |
00:08.26 | Max Shank | The Lazy river. |
00:37.76 | Max Shank | Aha. |
00:39.42 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so it took a friend organizing it with a bunch of people who I actually like to spend time with to get me to do nothing on a river and I got out there I got out there and it was. Ah, there was a crowd it was it was like bumper boats for 4 hours in this river it's in Austin yeah south of off and Marcos and when we got there, we're like holy shit's busy and the people working there go oh hasn't gotten busy yet. So. |
01:28.44 | Max Shank | This is in Austin. Well yeah. |
01:58.72 | mikebledsoe | Anyways, yeah, that was ah that was my weekend that and barbecue and laughing with friends. |
02:05.46 | Max Shank | Lazy River is exciting. |
02:17.38 | Max Shank | I'll tell you what makes me laugh is your story about you having some very close friends give you permission to just float in a River it sounds ah like this joke about um, meditation and yoga. It's like. |
02:45.76 | mikebledsoe | Ah. |
02:51.56 | Max Shank | People in None world countries need someone from a None world country to remind them that it's okay to do nothing for 20 minutes it's like you get permission to do nothing for 20 minutes with meditation class or yoga or something like that. It's like. |
03:07.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
03:27.88 | Max Shank | You just do nothing. |
03:28.88 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, we had a friend of her for dinner on Friday night and we talked about that which was you know talking about you know oh I got a meditation practice and I got a visualization practice and I got qi gong and it's like all these practices and talked about just. The value of not you know, getting trapped in the in the practices and the value of just sitting on the side of a lake and staring at the water and doing absolutely nothing and not worried about your posture or anything like that in just that space. |
04:36.56 | Max Shank | Well, it's like not concerning yourself with the outcome right? Like you don't you don't care if you have produced more widgets or harvested more grains right. |
04:44.40 | mikebledsoe | You know. |
05:04.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it's kind of like play. |
05:09.82 | Max Shank | And that's what we're doing. That's that's like how we judge if if we're good in a lot of relationships because that's where we gain our judgments from is these relationships that we've had so we say it's good to do this. It's bad to do that and. What's interesting is how few people can balance out both and I'm speaking from my own experience as well. It's like None or the other typically and figuring out how to rive the natural cycles which is a wave. |
06:11.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
06:26.68 | Max Shank | Um, is super valuable. Skill no wind to float in the Lazy River and you know when it's time to climb up the mountain or dig out the gold mine or ah till the field you you go get that shit done with total focus and it. Kind of goes back to what we talked about with the the Jungle cats and the lions and predators of various kinds. It's like they they basically are in rest mode rest and recovery and form bonds with the family or focused. They're not.. They're not hurrying typically right? There's a difference between being hurried and being focused and that's what I try to do sometimes I even get it Sometimes I do it where I'm I'm just focused or relaxed and if I'm relaxed I'm. |
07:42.62 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
08:20.22 | Max Shank | I'm letting my focus diffuse into a soft glow like a lantern that you could look directly at it doesn't hurt your eyes or you can focus down like a laser pointer or a laser cutter and you can actually slice through metal with it so being able to. Lazy River or Whitewater Raft. You know that sort of thing or lantern versus laser. |
09:10.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, um I think back in my early days of all a not not understanding the value of the space of doing nothing and just playing with no outcome and and how much benefit that gives me on the day. Ah. When I do want to focus the ability to do so is there and I like we were saying about the the lantern and or the laser yesterday is a good example that is I did float on Saturday but yesterday my fiance. |
10:02.80 | Max Shank | Earth. |
10:20.94 | mikebledsoe | So I got says I I need a lot I got a lot of work to do and I said you know what I got a lot of work to do too because I've got a summit coming up and you know there's a I've got a long list and I've got a couple podcast episodes to record this week so there's some things I need to prep for but I'm not gonna. You know it's Sunday and I know that I've got I'm working till next Sunday I don't have a day off between now I'm next Sunday and I'm going to take it easy I probably was more productive and enjoyed my work more without worrying about how much I got done that day. |
11:33.44 | Max Shank | I mean. |
11:36.74 | mikebledsoe | And yeah, it's I find that especially when I was younger a lot of time spent a lot of times spent chugging coffee and overstimulating myself for the purpose of thinking that was going to help me do something better. |
11:56.46 | Max Shank | Totally power through baby well and you'll be more good as judged by all of your peers. It's all the program that's been installed and if everything is sacrificed for the outcome. |
12:21.24 | mikebledsoe | Right here. |
12:33.34 | Max Shank | The extreme example is someone who's going to blow themselves up because the programming was so effective That's crazy so being able to draw boundaries is really what it comes back to is can you draw a boundary for space for yourself. |
12:44.32 | mikebledsoe | No no. |
13:12.84 | Max Shank | And I actually remember a conversation I had with a member at my gym once and I watched this person transform over a period of time I learned about how their work and their life goes and things like that and they were you know real high performer Worker. And her her biggest challenge was to set clear boundaries for herself to do things that were for her I mean she was give give give essentially I'll I'll get all the work done and then just pile some more on and then I'll get that done too and. |
14:03.52 | mikebledsoe | A. |
14:29.96 | Max Shank | Always the last priority and I remember she was asking if she could drop the the personal training from her membership and just do the classes and I said look ah personal train do classes. Whatever you want to do but make an appointment for yourself every week. That you never miss Basically like you have to keep that as a priority and that's one of the reasons that personal training works is because the person is heavily invested to show up at the given time and once that billing and scheduling is all dialed in. |
15:11.62 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
15:44.54 | Max Shank | It makes it very easy to show up every time but if it's ah, a group membership and no one really is going to follow up if you aren't coming in there. It's a totally different Thing. So I think it comes back to drawing boundaries. Between those times where you are allowed or allowing yourself to do nothing. |
16:27.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, my None task on Monday mornings is to schedule out my rejuvenating activities for the rest of the week when am I going to work out when am I going to go song a cold plunge when am I going to hang out with my friends. |
16:46.86 | Max Shank | He. |
17:06.56 | mikebledsoe | All that scheduled out None thing Monday morning before I even look at what I need to do for work that week and yeah it for me it. It requires that level of of commitment to self in order to follow through on that stuff. |
17:13.81 | Max Shank | Oh. |
17:35.76 | Max Shank | Oh draw boundaries. That's why relationships don't work right? Well, that's why relationships go South is ah, people didn't draw boundaries quick enough. Basically. |
17:41.36 | mikebledsoe | But most people never do it. Yeah, didn't yeah, they just don't even consider the boundaries in the None place. Yeah, you know? Yeah, they're not even aware usually like the the boundary most people. |
18:12.96 | Max Shank | Right. |
18:20.32 | mikebledsoe | Discovered that the boundary even exists when they get mad like ah, a boundary getting crossed it it triggers anger and then a lot of times the the right? the right person to be angry at yourself. But. |
18:41.28 | Max Shank | Um, it's internalized like right. |
18:55.16 | mikebledsoe | It's projected out and blamed on someone else when you know my big thing is anytime I get angry with somebody else I check in with myself to say you know what boundary was crossed and did I communicate that boundary and most of the time I didn't and then I got. |
19:13.96 | Max Shank | Yeah, yeah. |
19:32.70 | mikebledsoe | Check out in myself. But then I go have the conversation about where my boundary is with that person and you know it's always things usually clear up after that. |
19:38.68 | Max Shank | Um, yeah, yeah, um I would I would agree I think people um often don't check their boundaries. Quick enough and hold true to those lines and it makes it very difficult. Ah, and it's kind of an ah accumulating Burden I think even and you don't really know how much you. |
20:16.74 | mikebledsoe | Now just. |
20:40.72 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
20:51.56 | Max Shank | Like resentment and blame you can start hanging onto just just because 100% your responsibility you should have drawn boundaries. That's why anytime like what you're saying oh I'm mad at this person. It's like well that's silly because. Whatever happened happened and that was possible from from back when you started that relationship right? That's that's fine. Whatever just ah, try to learn from it and this back to the thing about being focused versus hurried or. |
21:32.56 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. |
22:05.72 | Max Shank | Whatever there's a big difference between just putting all your focus onto something and being emotionally charged up about it. |
22:17.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so we want to talk about today. Yeah I think we've done boundaries before. |
22:25.10 | Max Shank | What do I want to talk about I want to talk about the well. Okay, last week we talked about stuff basically which was cool. We talked about stuff. Making stuff. |
23:01.80 | mikebledsoe | I Only remember what what stuff will we talk about. |
23:10.30 | Max Shank | Um, we were talking about how come on you we were yeah but you're supposed to treasure mine forever. Whatever I say I'm sure you have like a separate diary just for the conversations that you and I have. |
23:24.26 | mikebledsoe | I've had a lot of thoughts between last week and right now and it gets cluttered. Oh. |
23:50.24 | Max Shank | I mean I know like everyone can tell that you get really excited throwing a word the round throwing around the word fiance now. So I know you got a lot on your mind. You're you're going to be this new person. You're going to be like oh well, you know now that I'm married. |
24:08.94 | mikebledsoe | M. |
24:24.28 | Max Shank | And it's going to be just like last week when you said well now that I'm you know a little older a little wiser I think it's just going to play in to that that guru status that you've developed because now you'll be older wiser married get some kids going and then your avatar. Will be complete so you can you know really have some authority on these messages for the men who listen to us significantly long that we shouldn't even see the neck on that tank top. It should go down at least ten more inches gandalph style. |
25:12.22 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I need ah I need a longer beard too. |
25:30.18 | mikebledsoe | Now see what Ashley says about that. |
25:39.66 | Max Shank | No, we were talking about making stuff though last week like the the value of making stuff physically with your hands and there's and there's a lot of truth that is discovered when you do that because there and it kind of ties so I would tie back. |
25:49.84 | mikebledsoe | Oh oh yeah. |
26:04.98 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
26:18.26 | Max Shank | We talked about last week into the so that was the matter or the stuff and maybe we could go into the pattern of things so we could talk a little bit about vibration and rhythm and frequency if if you wanted to It's kind of a. Challenging topic to really follow, but it's um, the reason it reminded me is father's day. It was father's day and you know the word father comes from the word ah pattern and the word mother comes from the word matter. So there's. |
27:10.80 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
27:28.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, why say we go with that. Let's go with that. Yeah I'm I'm down to tackle the pattern conversation that sounds good. |
27:31.68 | Max Shank | Matter and pattern so it seems like a nice logical transition. |
27:53.38 | Max Shank | Yeah, so let's say we try to break it down into ah patterns of human beings which is kind of like programs of human beings. So we have that which is I would say that's the most practical level. Is the patterns of humans. Ah we also have ah Dna is a pattern and another synonym for pattern is code. |
28:57.40 | mikebledsoe | I think. |
28:59.20 | Max Shank | So you have Dna you got computer programming you got programming human beings. You got the different ah frequencies and wavelengths of things as it relates to the materials we make. |
29:28.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think it's gonna be a fun topic Actually the more the more you're talking I'm thinking and yeah, this will be a full. |
29:43.46 | Max Shank | Um, you could argue that matter and Pattern are the only topics that we could discuss. |
29:56.40 | mikebledsoe | I think so yeah, everything falls under those 2 categories. That's right. |
30:06.70 | Max Shank | Stuff and not stuff like okay here here's ah, an interesting example right? We have all these forces which is the way we describe. Okay, all right? No, we're Okay, we're we're kicked. |
30:23.88 | mikebledsoe | Hang on hang on. Let's kick the show off and then get into it. Yeah I think I think we're set are we clicked I wrote the date on the top of the page. Um. |
30:41.42 | Max Shank | Okay, you took some notes. |
30:55.12 | Max Shank | I have this I have this fantasy in my mind when I see you looking down and writing something that it's like oh these like excellent notes are like a mind map or something like that or maybe a checklist of things to cover. Really you've just written your name in the date in the corner. |
31:23.40 | mikebledsoe | Um, no half the time It's the date I'm practicing spelling my name. Yeah. |
31:38.76 | Max Shank | Okay, so we'll talk about Pattern for in honor of father's day. |
31:47.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah I said I say ah why don't you go ahead and do the intro and then we'll talk about the the membership site and then you can go into your explanation for. Father and pattern How about that and then we'll just go from there. |
32:31.50 | Max Shank | And the membership site just so I'm clear is in the beginning of the show I put my camera to expose the nipples and then when the public show starts I tilt it back up. So the nipples are ah not visible is that. |
33:03.86 | mikebledsoe | You got it. You got it? yeah. |
33:09.94 | Max Shank | Is that right? I'm a simple man I like a simple plan. My nips are only free to me but not to you. |
33:27.22 | mikebledsoe | All right? You want to kick off the intro today. All right? yep. |
33:32.94 | Max Shank | Yeah let's do it already. Ah None 2 None welcome back to Monday mornings with max and Mike Today we're gonna. Follow up what we talked about last week last week was a heck of a fun conversation about stuff matter substance working with your hands a little bit about manufacturing. It was a crazy excellent conversation. Go check it out Today. We're gonna talk about the other side. The pattern. I think it's very cool that the words mother and father are actually derived from matter and pattern and so that's what we're gonna talk about today. We're gonna talk about how pattern is present in your Dna your cell phone behaviors of human beings. And much much more and welcome welcome again. Mike thanks for sitting down with me I'm very excited and a little intimidated to tackle this topic today. |
35:20.58 | mikebledsoe | Well said. |
35:41.48 | mikebledsoe | Ah sorry I can make a bunch of bullshit up. Ah so for for those of you who who love this show. |
35:51.98 | Max Shank | I Don't like it for the record folks I don't like when he does that. |
36:04.22 | mikebledsoe | Ah, but for um, all we we decide to open up the membership site and we're gonna be posting exclusive content. There's a conversation that always happens previous to this show today's show we had 16 minutes and 55 seconds of content. Of us figuring out what we were going to talk about. But of course we can't help ourselves from delivering gold at every moment. So if you yep, None nipples on the preshow. So do that one. |
36:53.52 | Max Shank | There were also 2 nipples on the pre-show in case that matters I don't know why why should people do that one like what are they going to get out of that. Are they going to get some more interaction with us. |
37:17.16 | mikebledsoe | 1 maybe it's exclusive content for now we're going to see where it goes. Yeah well I had a guy. |
37:25.32 | Max Shank | Just exclusive content I Think yeah, we should see what people want though also because I could see ah I could see something really cool forming out of this So I just want to serve our our customers The best way I can. |
37:54.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I had a guy ah on Instagram Atx window tent and clean. He sent me message it and said he would donate for more podcasts with me and you so um, what I want to do is we're gonna set it up. It's not set up. As of today. But if you're listening to this what I'm Goingnna do is I'm going to create a link on the http://bloodsoio.com. So if you go to there. There's going to be a place where you can sign up for this and it's gonna be pay what you want so it's donation based anywhere between a dollar and $5000000 ah. |
38:58.12 | Max Shank | Love it. |
39:09.36 | mikebledsoe | And we'll set up a we'll make it a monthly subscription and as long as you're. |
39:13.16 | Max Shank | Are we sponsored by Austin Tint and window by the way atx tint and window. |
39:23.34 | mikebledsoe | You know we may mention him more depending on the size of his donation or her donation I'm not sure if it's a man or woman. So I the this. |
39:49.66 | Max Shank | So wait. So wait, you're telling me they can pay what they want and we don't even really know what they're going to get yet. We know they're going to get exclusive content. There's no question. You're going to hear words there that you won't hear anywhere else but there might be even more than that is what you're saying So it's like. |
40:14.90 | mikebledsoe | Yep. |
40:24.34 | mikebledsoe | Well well part of this yeah part part part of this. Well the thing is the people that are going to donate to the show. They're going to contribute funds to make sure that this show keeps happening because you know what it takes a couple hours out of max and I week |
40:29.48 | Max Shank | Ah, bonus price Mystery box That's incredible. |
41:02.62 | mikebledsoe | And you know we got to keep the lights on and all that. But ah yeah, so the people. |
41:09.12 | Max Shank | Well you vote with your dollars too I'm I'm a big fan of that. So if you like really want more of something then you know that's that's the only way you can really influence it I say that in your whole life too. You know, buy what you like. |
41:36.94 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, spend money where you want things to improve So Ah so for one if you enjoy the show and you just want to Contribute. It's a great way to do it. You're also going to get exclusive content And. Ah, you are going to have the loudest voice out of everyone who has an opinion about what we should be doing So We're more likely to listen to those who are donating the most amount of money So That's all that's all on that So we'll get that set up I've got a summit coming up this weekend. So. |
42:35.80 | Max Shank | Very exciting. |
42:48.40 | mikebledsoe | My team is completely distracted with things that they think is important so that I can do the show. But. |
42:59.82 | Max Shank | It must have taken a lot of ah instruction to organize all those people together for a summit. He segwayed perfectly because someone has to orchestrate. |
43:15.70 | mikebledsoe | Instruction. Um, yeah, yeah, there's a ah lot of direction. |
43:37.32 | Max Shank | Someone has to orchestrate the code for getting that job done and if you think about the Pattern. So the bread. The the dough is the stuff. The recipe is the pattern. The sperm is the pattern. The egg is the stuff. Matter mother Pattern father. So It sounds like you are the father of this event because you have determined the structure of its organization. |
44:36.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, we create this structure and then I brought in a lot of speakers who are going to contribute so they they bring a lot of stuff and I organize it and I time it I announce it I create a container. |
44:55.22 | Max Shank | Right. |
45:10.16 | Max Shank | Oh. |
45:13.70 | mikebledsoe | So it's a container of time so it starts at a certain time ends at a certain time we we do have a frequency of of time in between so this speaker starts here ends there. There's also a consideration for what type of content is gonna presented it. Be presented in what order to make the most sense so that we can stare step people through a series of understanding. So while I also have no idea what the speakers are going to say like I I know their topic but I and I know they're good because almost all of them been in the industry for twenty plus years |
46:09.48 | Max Shank | Right? right. |
46:27.00 | mikebledsoe | So I know it's going to be good I Just don't know what exactly that content's going to be and that's actually a lot of fun for me. |
46:40.28 | Max Shank | And that's the that's the practical side of patterns. That's the most practical side of patterns because most of our interactions are with people or or with stuff but usually with people I would say unless you're just specifically with materials and. |
47:04.92 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah art. |
47:18.36 | Max Shank | That's what teaching is it's basically ah, it's like the least substantial thing there is is pure instruction because there's no stuff being transferred. There's only code. Being transferred.. There's only the pattern that is being sent to another person. |
48:07.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
48:13.64 | Max Shank | But that's what drives people and the bible is a program. The constitution is a program these are patterns. These are these have their own ah force and vibration to them right. |
48:44.12 | mikebledsoe | What I'm glad you bring that up. |
48:49.16 | Max Shank | When it comes to the way that humans interact and behave and you take that plus it's like that plus Dna those are the None intersecting patterns that sort of weave together and you could I don't know I think the nature versus nurture argument is the wrong. Perspective I think it's nature and nurture and it's all the same kind of. |
49:33.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and and everything you were just saying right there and we look at the patterns that have had the longest staying power. So like we talk about the bible or christianity. It's a pattern that has had really long staying power a lot of other religions have fallen by the wayside. |
50:07.36 | Max Shank | Relative to other human religions. It's had incredible staying power. |
50:11.88 | mikebledsoe | And yeah, yeah, now the the patterns you talk about nature versus nurture. But what I one of the things that I've found to be ah, really powerful is studying the patterns of nature and then either mimicking that. |
50:37.32 | Max Shank | Then oh. |
50:50.84 | mikebledsoe | Or if we're going to be working with nature which we always are is how do we harness that if you try to create a structure that is not in alignment with nature. You're going to be. You're going to lose that battle and so there is and I think it creates some. |
50:55.86 | Max Shank | I will know. |
51:30.56 | mikebledsoe | Difficulty so one of the ways I like to think about patterns and frequencies and I think about frequencies specifically and I like to start at the macro and work our way down to the micro and then when we do that I think people really start getting an understanding of how the universe works. And this was pointed out to me by a guy named Daniel Schmackenberger he explained it to me and I go huh that act that that's in person in person. He explained it to me. |
52:18.34 | Max Shank | Um, did he explain it to you in person. What an interesting character that guy is I've listened to a few of his things and he's a very interesting cat. But. |
52:39.16 | mikebledsoe | He used to live down the street from us and I probably had a sit down with him every three months when I was living in Socal and we jammed and the guy. The guy is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. Um, but ah, we were talking about seasons and cycles and. |
52:54.60 | Max Shank | Um, about that. Yeah. |
53:18.70 | mikebledsoe | And lunar and solar and we look at the yeah we look at the pattern and we look at the patterns of nature. We look at patterns of the universe and the the None one the one that's easiest for us to all be aware of is probably the lunar cycle. So. |
53:24.66 | Max Shank | There's a pattern. |
53:53.90 | mikebledsoe | Or the 4 seasons. Um, these are both cycles the 4 seasons all happen in an annual basis. It gets hot it cools off. It gets really cold. It gets warm. It gets hot. It does that ah to. |
54:16.72 | Max Shank | So like the days and the moons. Ah, and the years are easy are like easy to notice. Outwardly. |
54:35.80 | mikebledsoe | They're easy to notice and so you have the lunar There's you know about thirteen lunar cycles in a year. Um some may ah some do argue that the fact that we have twelve months in the year and we have 13 lunar cycles is actually fighting nature a little bit. And we might be better off if we had a little bit different system. But this thing is pretty ingrained the gregorian calendar. Ah we have the lunar cycles which are which are monthly and then inside of that they're really the the weekly cycle Monday through Sunday is. |
55:21.94 | Max Shank | Oh man. Yeah, we. |
55:46.18 | mikebledsoe | I don't really see anything demonstrated in nature that seems like to me a very human construct to divide up those 28 ish days ah between lunar cycles and we want to like look all the way back through history. Yeah into weeks. |
56:10.26 | Max Shank | into into weeks um I don't know what the origin of the week is actually is kind of an interesting question. |
56:21.98 | mikebledsoe | And days are obvious the the daily cycle the sun comes up the sun goes down and I have no idea I mean somebody Dm me let me know and the. |
56:52.54 | Max Shank | We're just we're gonna trust your dude. Okay, this is why you are not in charge of the fucking research department I'll wait for the None direct message on Instagram to give me the answer and then I just get a fucking go with that you you lunatic speaking of moon. |
57:09.48 | mikebledsoe | Ah, no I need a starting point I need a. |
57:23.70 | Max Shank | That's where the luna lunatic comes from fucking lunatic. Yeah, so just Dm your effect that's like slightly less reliable than Wikipedia. |
57:26.78 | mikebledsoe | I. Well no I want to I want to I want the people in the audience to participate in the process of us finding information. They said it to me I'll I'll still verify it I'll look it up but I I'm gonna let someone initiate. So um. |
57:59.74 | Max Shank | Ah I'm just kidding I Love Wikipedia. Okay, so we have ah we have years we have moons so we have solar year we have moons. Let's forget about weeks. Let's go straight to heartbeats from there so we got year. |
58:13.68 | mikebledsoe | So about. |
58:34.60 | mikebledsoe | That's ah, that's where I was. That's where we're going is That's exactly what I've written down. Actually we're on the same page but it gets down to you get up and go to sleep. You have a Circadian rhythm you have a hormonal. |
58:38.74 | Max Shank | Moon day heartbeat. |
58:58.98 | mikebledsoe | Ah, rhythm throughout the day based on the sun coming up sun going down moon coming out all these things and then yeah it it comes down to heartbeat brain waves brainwave frequencies and so yeah. |
59:22.96 | Max Shank | Which is a lot faster because hertz is the way we measure frequency and hurts is calculated in cycles per second. So if something is it and I think we have the ability to hear things between oh gosh. Ah. 1 d-ish hurts to None something around there so we have a pretty big. There's ah, there's a great thing um to visualize the spectrum of frequencies but just remember that hurts is in cycles per second so your heart. Ah. |
01:00:11.98 | mikebledsoe | I should know that. |
01:00:40.80 | Max Shank | It beats once every second so cycles per second would be like 1 basically right. |
01:00:42.30 | mikebledsoe | Once a second. Yeah. |
01:00:56.26 | mikebledsoe | You know? Yeah, so we have all these different frequencies and None of the one of the ways reasons I like to think about frequencies in this way is because it allows. Me to see more clearly how I'm connected to the entire universe it. It reduces the amount of separation that I'm perceiving and whole with it. Yeah and I'm tuned into it once I learned this I I got a lot better about going down with the sun and coming up with the sun and. |
01:01:33.92 | Max Shank | You feel more whole with it. You feel more part of it. |
01:01:55.64 | Max Shank | Oh. |
01:02:01.20 | mikebledsoe | My health improved and all sorts of things. So I like that the idea of talking about the micro macro to the micro and the pattern is always present. There's nothing that we can observe that doesn't have it and it's not participating. |
01:02:33.60 | Max Shank | Yeah, there's a great little chart if you type in em spectrum into Google images you can find ah a really nice little visual aid I think it's really important. |
01:03:02.92 | mikebledsoe | Em spectrum. |
01:03:06.66 | Max Shank | Yeah, just type in em spectrum into Google and hit images and that'll show you ah you know on the 1 hand when you have ah something like the visible light spectrum and then. |
01:03:43.36 | mikebledsoe | E. |
01:03:43.60 | Max Shank | You go beyond above it. You have ultraviolet spectrum and then you have infrared so below what we can see and there's all this stuff happening and the way to tie it all together and simplify it in my mind is to say that vision. |
01:04:00.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
01:04:21.86 | Max Shank | Doesn't show you everything. That's there. It just shows you? What's important and there but there's so much stuff vibrating everywhere and everything's got its own um frequency to it and that goes all the way down like. Most watches are set with a quartz crystal actually because it vibrates at a certain frequency and I think ah the way an atomic clock works is with something like caesium. |
01:05:19.48 | mikebledsoe | Everyone's cell phone has a quartz crystal in it. |
01:05:40.34 | Max Shank | And so you think here's this this like bunch of stuff like a crystal but it's got this frequency that it's emitting from it all the time. |
01:06:01.68 | mikebledsoe | Man I spent hours talking about crystals on Saturday night with some friends. The I think we might open up a crystal shop here in Austin the next the next business venture. You think it'll be good I think we could we could pull. |
01:06:27.60 | Max Shank | I Think if you focus on it. It will be I think if you focus on it. It'll be awesome and if you ah, don't try that hard then it depends on who you partnered with. |
01:06:46.98 | mikebledsoe | All right? Yeah I'm I'm looking for solid partners for crystal shop here in Austin Texas. |
01:06:55.54 | Max Shank | I Like talking about crystals too but not with people who only know the esoteric side of Crystals I need someone to like bridge the gap between the physics and the more esoteric kind of philosophical Astro astrology because. |
01:07:14.66 | mikebledsoe | Boy Yeah I have a friend. |
01:07:35.28 | Max Shank | I'm I'm hip with it and I I like to know what's really going on in there. |
01:07:44.98 | mikebledsoe | Well, both sides are really nice I What are my buddies he used to be in the crystal business and and he can talk about how the crystal in your phone works and tie that into more of the esoteric as well and so he can He spans the whole thing I'm gonna have him on the show. |
01:07:54.82 | Max Shank | You gotta work them together. |
01:08:12.20 | Max Shank | Right. |
01:08:21.88 | mikebledsoe | Here in the next month or so and I don't know if we'll talk about Crystals because he's an expert in other things as well. But maybe we'll cover that for everybody. |
01:08:28.34 | Max Shank | Yeah I have a friend actually who I have a friend who his whole ah career. Basically right now is studying crystals so his his equipment that he has available in the lab is so tight that he can actually fire a neutron beam. To see really really tiny crystals of proteins to make for pharmaceuticals so his whole job is like trial and error. Let's let's throw some fucking heat and some of this over here and he's basically in a laboratory and then firing a little beam. Neutrons to look at the shapes to see if they're going to be able to bind or unite ah with other molecules in the body. It's it's really fascinating and you look at how all of those different interactions are things usually have a charge like positive or negative. And they often will also have a ah conforming shape and you can take that all the way down. It's it's easy to get lost with how many branches that you can take this down in terms of the energy transformation because that's really all we're doing is we're taking. Energy and we're transforming it into some other type of energy. That's really what family is about. You're taking energy from outside and then you're adding it to the family fungus is doing that we're doing that Orca are doing that. Basically you're trying to assimilate more energy and grow. Size of your empire ants fungus us and yeah and ah different creatures do it in different ways like ah in the life of a mycelium fungus that's slowly branching out a myceoleal network. |
01:11:46.14 | mikebledsoe | Simulate organize create a structure with that energy divert that energy. |
01:12:18.34 | Max Shank | They don't really budget time for ah like deviance and pleasure and vacations and things like that and we we do. We have all this crazy stuff Beyond grow the family but that's the that's the prevailing pattern because. |
01:12:43.68 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
01:12:56.64 | Max Shank | If you don't have that then that branch of the family tree cuts itself. So you you almost have it's why religions kind of follow the same thing Thou Shalt have no other gods before me because this has to be the foundation of your pattern of your programming. |
01:13:02.14 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
01:13:33.34 | Max Shank | Right? You can't like just pick and choose oh hey like you know you hindus. That's pretty cool but I like steak So I'm not going to go with this crew and you Christians are great but I want to eat pigs or you know whatever they don't like that doesn't it doesn't have the same um unity. It doesn't have the same. |
01:13:55.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
01:14:11.50 | Max Shank | Ah, resonance and harmony of the the the vibration there isn't it interesting that they also sing every Sunday that that's a big thing is singing together. We got to get back to that though. |
01:14:18.66 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I. Yeah, yeah I notice having interacted heavily with the new age spiritual Community and I I've never really considered myself new age. But the. The new age Spiritual Community is interesting because it does feel like a lot of the people in that community are adopting they're picking and choosing. They're cherry picking things from different religions and then creating their own little thing but it really does lack a foundation that I. |
01:15:30.88 | Max Shank | E. |
01:15:46.62 | mikebledsoe | I Think that the that community it feels very wishy-washy feels very too flowy to there's there's some people in in this community that are very popular and when they post things and when they talk about things. Sounds very flowery. But I don't know exactly what they mean and I don't think they know what they mean either. |
01:16:36.34 | Max Shank | Oh you mean like a flower like that thing that is designed to attract I'm not surprised.. The only thing we can possibly get is people being little flowers. There's no way. We you? you can't rise above the noise unless you make yourself into a pretty flower like you know you could tell people the truth is like look um there there are a lot of tools out there that we can use and you don't really know what the. |
01:17:13.68 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
01:17:46.26 | Max Shank | Potential benefit and potential cost of those tools is you? You don't really know how those tools can be used. You don't know the pattern or the code of how to put those tools to the best use and that's also what coaching and instruction is it's how to get the most out of those tools. So. The recipe for bread the recipe for making ah semiconductors and computers and automobiles. Ah what is that without the instructions. It's just stuff without the the instructions to put it all together. It's just stuff. Dna same thing. It actually determines where the protein is going to go where the collagen is going to get laid down. It's insane ah to try to like differentiate those 2 things because. |
01:19:38.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
01:19:43.90 | Max Shank | What is the stuff without the the movement of the stuff. What I mean there's there's nothing. That's perfectly still is kind of ah a weird ah trip to think about and I think a lot of that um can be described by like. Atomic structures as we understand it like the density of the packing of the atomic nuclei and the lattice work that they take ah see this. We're like way too far outside of my understanding but basically things are packed much tighter. When they are more denser so you have a ah gal you have ah an air compressor. You can compress the air and actually shove more into that same space and then as you get harder and harder Materials. There's less and less give that you can shove into that same space. |
01:21:03.28 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
01:21:35.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
01:21:40.20 | Max Shank | And that's also why in order to have a faraday cage which doesn't let ah electromagnetic radiation in it has to be made out of metal. It can't be made out of wood because it can get through because wood is less dent like how crazy is that when you think about it because the wood is still solid. |
01:22:17.42 | mikebledsoe | Yep. |
01:22:18.96 | Max Shank | But the reason you need it to be metal is because of the closeness of the lattice of those atoms. So. There's actually less space than usual and then with air with wood with metal. Tungsten Plutonium All that other stuff it's because it's more and more tightly packed and that's that's also um, how nature patterns itself pretty much if you look at a tree and a set of lungs. It starts out with a big pipe. And then it splits and splits and splits into little branches and ah leaves and branches branches little capillaries alviolles and things like that. So you're trying to maximize the ah surface area right? It's like giving yourself more. |
01:23:59.14 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
01:24:07.72 | Max Shank | Ah, relationships with the environment. |
01:24:10.60 | mikebledsoe | But that Pattern works best with the planet Earth for the exchange of of air of Oxygen carbon dioxide. Whatever it is whatever the exchange of these molecules are and when you're talking about Oxygen Carbon dioxide. It's no. A mystery why the lungs in the tree look very similar. It's just a shit works. Um, yeah. |
01:24:57.56 | Max Shank | Gas exchange happening all the time and that's a pattern that's a relationship between those 2 inhale exhale without algae and trees. We'd all be dead. |
01:25:22.40 | mikebledsoe | Very true. The I want to break this down and into and a 4 different quadrants. So I'm I'm a big fan I've I've talked about before of Ken Wilbur's a call map a qal so if you Google a cap a q a l space. Map then you'll get an idea of what I'm you'll get a visual of what I'm talking about here and so it's ah the upper quadrant is the individual the lower half of the quadrant is the collective. The left side of the quadrant is the interior or the inside and the. Right side of the quadrant is the exterior. So if we go to the upper left hand quadrant what we're looking at is the interior self. So if we want to look at I really like talking about this map because it allows us to break down a topic as big as something like patterns into something that. We can look at and step by step and talk about it so to really simplify what's happening in the upper left hand quadrant which is the interior of self I really think about that as like thoughts and feelings your thoughts and your feelings. It's your internal world and there's patterns there. And so we have emotional patterns we have thought patterns and we have psychoemotional patterns where the thoughts and emotions have a pattern between the 2 of them. You have an emotion then there's a pattern of making meaning of what that emotion means and then. That can cycle cycle cycle so we have psycho emotional patterns that we need to be aware of and the certain certain things trigger those different patterns and it could be something like father's day something could get someone thinks about father's day and. The pattern may be celebration feeling really good make it mean call your dad that day. So I like to think about no. |
01:29:30.90 | Max Shank | I'm sure that's everybody's pattern. |
01:29:45.30 | Max Shank | Ah. |
01:29:45.32 | mikebledsoe | But but the ah but I like look what do what? you think about the Psycho emotional patterns. What have you noticed and learned about that. |
01:30:06.18 | Max Shank | So I think of it in a pretty simple way as people repeat what gives them a predictable result. Not even what gives them? ah an excellent result just a predictable one. So that's basically what a pattern is is. |
01:30:31.70 | mikebledsoe | M. |
01:30:43.56 | mikebledsoe | And people people do seek predictability. There's ah, there's a lot of people. They do ah a lot of. |
01:30:43.86 | Max Shank | There's predictability to it. So it's why people prefer people prefer the ah ah familiar pain to the unknown. |
01:31:07.52 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I've worked with a lot of people who they they came to me and there's something in their life. That's not working I mean that's that's really the the job of a coach is we work with people who they want something to be different in their life and. They want to change it and usually it's the the individual is trying to change something externally in order to create a different internal experience and a lot of times what we got to do. |
01:32:12.00 | Max Shank | Which can work. |
01:32:18.00 | mikebledsoe | Which can work but which does work which we can get into because we can talk about Environmental patterns. Ah. |
01:32:25.22 | Max Shank | Because a pattern is a relationship with your environment. There's a relationship within yourself which is kind of what you're talking about. But you're never in a vacuum. You know you take someone out of their existing environment and you put them into a different one and suddenly all their aches and pains go away. |
01:32:43.90 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
01:33:03.12 | Max Shank | Worked with this guy joint pain everywhere everything hurts ah instead of being in Boston at home. He goes down to Florida on vacation none of his shit hurts and it's like well why do you think that is like you have to explore what it is about that environment that you're that you have unresolved. |
01:33:39.90 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
01:33:41.46 | Max Shank | That your body is like essentially crying out because your ah pain is basically your brain saying ah not like this. That's all just not like this.. It's not ah, it's not. Ah, like bad.. It's not Shameful. It's not good. Sometimes it's incorrect where where you feel it isn't necessarily where the resolution is going to be Found. It's just a nonspecific signal that says not like this if you do it a different way. Maybe so. |
01:34:36.18 | mikebledsoe | Right? just. |
01:34:52.28 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, so people at that spot on it pain is just ah, always talk about pain as a teacher. It's it's trying to teach you something and most people just sit in the pain because it is ah familiar. |
01:34:54.20 | Max Shank | But not like this. |
01:35:24.30 | Max Shank | Um, familiar I. |
01:35:31.88 | mikebledsoe | And people feel safe even in when it's painful. They'd rather feel if they feel safe in pain. They'll take that over you know the uncertainty and freedom and the a lot of times people want. You know who have been focused on changing something in their external environment even that they're not even really willing to make too many external environment changes because of what's happening internally of what that might mean for them and so yeah chicken of the egg. Yeah, and so if. |
01:36:21.98 | Max Shank | Um, that's a chicken or the egg type of situation too. Um. |
01:36:37.40 | mikebledsoe | If you've been beating your head on 1 way of making change and changing a pattern you may want to look at something else. So if you've been trying to change something environmentally or you've been trying to change your physical body and it's not working. Maybe you need to look at the internal body or you need to look at your relationships with people instead of just the environment. |
01:37:11.94 | Max Shank | And some people thrive on incremental change and some people thrive on radical change and is different for everybody you know, ah a lot of a lot of times where you make a leap forward in what you might call progress. |
01:37:14.92 | mikebledsoe | And so. |
01:37:32.18 | mikebledsoe | That's that's very true. |
01:37:48.16 | Max Shank | Because you took a giant leap toward a different environment or a different ah day-to-day Pattern It can be incremental or it can be radical. |
01:38:02.56 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, so a lot of times these these internal patterns if we can shift those there might be ah emotions that we're making mean something with our thoughts and then that keeps us from maybe moving from Boston to Florida. |
01:38:39.32 | Max Shank | Right. |
01:38:41.28 | mikebledsoe | You know I I remember coaching one woman at this point and she she did not want to be working her job. She's like I do not like my job I want to get out of my industry I don't want to do this at all. But I'm not good at anything else. That was the story that she had. She had this internal story of yeah, that's the pattern. Yeah, and so it once we got to a point where she and she made really good money is is. |
01:39:20.92 | Max Shank | That's the pattern. That's some software. Yeah. |
01:39:40.84 | Max Shank | M. |
01:39:47.70 | mikebledsoe | We had to really sit down and and break down is it worth the you know is it worth possibly a lifestyle change downward which by the way is one of the people just don't do it once they hit a certain level of lifestyle coming back down that is incredibly difficult. Um, if you're used to living off $200000 a year and now I'm gonna ask you to live off $100000 a year people I I would I would have a very hard time with it people freak out wouldn't they just don't know how to do it. It's pretty much stuck there. But um. |
01:40:54.24 | Max Shank | Tell you? what though they would figure it out if they had to and I can I can guarantee that you know what I love speaking of patterns. So a prison that's that's a series of matter and patterns woven together to keep people inside. |
01:41:03.80 | mikebledsoe | They would fake Always do always do. |
01:41:29.12 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
01:41:33.60 | Max Shank | Designed by allegedly pretty smart people and guys still escape. So prison is full of the criminals who got caught so arguably the dumbest of the criminals because a smart criminal is still outside of the Jail That's what prisons do. |
01:42:01.84 | mikebledsoe | No. |
01:42:08.62 | Max Shank | They put all the dumb criminals in Jail to leave the really clever ones out of Jail so they can have the easier pick of what's left. But if you take the smart architects who are putting together this box those really smart guys. But the level of desire to be free of that Burden seems to supersede all of that technical Expertise All of the guards all of the stuff I mean it's what doesn't happen a lot but it still happens. |
01:43:05.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, there's I mean if if you just study what's happening in the prisons right now not even escape but Gangs drugs. There's basically there's nothing but illegal activity happening in the prisons and the you know. |
01:43:25.50 | Max Shank | Gangs gangs. |
01:43:40.20 | Max Shank | Yeah, how could you stop it. |
01:43:43.86 | mikebledsoe | Ah, the stated the stated intent is for them to not be to not experience that. But yeah, you're basically just concentrating a bunch of people who got caught and ah will continue to do things. |
01:44:08.26 | Max Shank | Well I mean the prison system is a bad pattern. Um, because it it maximizes for ah, shame and isolation but not actually for compensation to the fucking victim of the crime.. The only thing we should care About. It does nothing for.. Ah. |
01:44:50.12 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, I mean if if somebody violates. |
01:44:56.80 | Max Shank | It's like it's like it's like okay so a crime was Committed. What are we going to do are we going to help out the victim. No What we're going to do is we're going to take a little bit of everybody's money including the victims and then we're going to take the bad man to a bad place so he can. Get really isolated and angry at everybody and probably link up with a murderous gang. Ah, That's what we're going to do I'm waiting for the punchline but there it's there's nothing. There. Yeah. |
01:45:55.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, that's a very poor social pattern. So so I mean that's that's the that's the inside of you know of culture right? culture is the inside How we how we pattern our so our society. So. |
01:46:24.60 | Max Shank | Right? Well how you discipline how you discipline society right? because Rule rule is the threat and discipline is the act right? So if you if the culture. |
01:46:28.86 | mikebledsoe | The criminal Justice system. |
01:47:02.78 | Max Shank | Is in a bit of a dysfunctional abusive schizophrenic relationship with its policing of Behavior. Do you think that naturally a lot of people would do the same thing internally so that internal or pattern of how you ah Govern or police. Or discipline your own behavior whether you do it with blame and shame and isolation of that part of you versus acceptance and learning and reeducation of that party right? It's like you're putting the same experience through a very different. |
01:48:03.64 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
01:48:17.88 | Max Shank | Filter which I mean look the way we make Filters is really really tinier and tinier Meshes just like a net a water filter and a net that you catch fish with the the main difference is the size of the openings. |
01:48:49.26 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well, it's interesting when I think about these patterns I think about how they begun or began begun began and um these these patterns are fractal in nature so they usually started off as. They always start off as something small if we look at the pattern of humanity and um, there were not that many people on this planet five hundred years ago if you if you went to Paris France Five hundred years ago there weren't that many people there. I mean it was big for its time but compared to now it was just so tiny but all the rules all the ideas about how society should be governed stem from that time and. |
01:50:07.24 | Max Shank | M. |
01:50:29.82 | Max Shank | From France five hundred years ago or from the greeks like two thousand ish years ago like de ah when was democritus. |
01:50:38.58 | mikebledsoe | Well yeah, you keep going for their back but I'm just using people can I think people I think people can possibly like if we don't go too far back. But yeah you you keep going further and further back you go to the greeks you go to the hebrews you go to the Egyptians and you you follow the the thread. |
01:51:04.88 | Max Shank | Right? I for an eye you follow the thread which is interesting because it's like um how they did history for a while was through these tapestries and they would actually tell a story through the the chain. |
01:51:16.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
01:51:30.24 | mikebledsoe | A. |
01:51:44.20 | Max Shank | So it's it's really funny ah connection I made the other day and there are too many word puns to follow, but the funny connection I made is that a link is one connection and a chain is multiple connections in sequence Dna multiple connections in sequence. So that's a big difference. Um. In how those connections work together. Ah um, a chain is many connections. A matrix is also a different orientation of many connections and so different elements have different structures. That are more matrix-like or more chain-like like for example, long chain fatty acids that sort of thing so there are these um, different ways that we connect to things and a lot of it like you said tracing the thread. Back that's what we try to do. We're trying to go back and figure out where those connections started being made and the further back you go. It's none becomes None None becomes 2 None becomes 3 3 becomes all things that was in the dao two thousand years ago that's a pattern that a guy wrote down and we still can't ah absorb it. We can regurgitate it we can bounce it around. We can modify it but all those all those written things left a pattern and that is I think the story of. Human supremacy when you get right down to it. It's the fact that we were able to accumulate written knowledge and access it really quickly so you can take I mean right now on Youtube there's a thing learning about how materials are put together. Ah, Youtube channels called us auto industry and they take you through hydraulics and gears and aerodynamics and drag and they take you through all of these different things. The videos are super crystal clear simple and it's like you took that expert. His whole life and synthesized it into 10 minutes but those 10 minutes were based on generation after generation after generation of patterned ah accumulation of knowledge. So it's like ah, an external brain so we could. Ah, decode for later just very similar to Dna. It's basically a code for making a car or Dna is like a code for making proteins. But it's all it's all based on our ability to keep a record of it and a Dna of course is a living record. |
01:57:14.86 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well I think about what you were saying with written. Ah we have records written and up until what one hundred years ago most people were were illiterate and a small percentage of the population could even read. So only a small percentage of population had access to understanding and not only that the books that they had access to they usually existed in a university and so there was ah a highly It was a high concentration of knowledge that. People studied that were dictating society and then about one hundred years ago literacy started to really take hold and you know because they talked about the printing press but the printing the printing press it preceded literacy without the printing press. There wouldn't be literacy but the technology. Ah. Of there being an abundance of books caused the human mind to go be curious about that enough to study how to read to learn it and now we fast forward. |
01:59:36.12 | Max Shank | Printing press I think that was a big thing for the gutenberg bible right. |
01:59:39.38 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and I think the I think the benefit of back then was there was a limited amount of things that you could consider and you didn't have to look. You didn't have to sift through as much to go back to the beginning. Or as far back to the beginning as you could now we pull out our phone and there's videos and everything that have trapped us in what's happening right now. The the average American Yeah, the average. Yeah yeah, it's not right now right now it's it's they're sucked into. |
02:00:37.10 | Max Shank | Somewhere else though. |
02:00:55.80 | mikebledsoe | What's happening. Well no way that they're they're they're considering what's happening today. What is happening today that matters. |
02:01:11.20 | Max Shank | Ironically, it's a portal to anywhere else than here and now that's what's funny because you're saying it's like they're looking what's happening now elsewhere but ironic you're right? But it's also kind of ironic because you're looking for anything else. |
02:01:37.78 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, but the yeah my point is that time the time consideration is is so short like what happened last week doesn't matter anymore. It only all that matters is today and people are so people are so yeah. |
02:01:40.80 | Max Shank | But here and now. |
02:01:53.80 | Max Shank | Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay so that's insanity. That's insanity full on insanity. |
02:02:15.48 | mikebledsoe | People people are so engrossed they have so much data coming in about what matters today in the whole world that they think they should yeah they don't have boundaries but that person is totally ingrossed andgross in what's happening now doesn't have the opportunity to look back in history. |
02:02:29.48 | Max Shank | Because they can't draw boundaries. |
02:02:54.90 | mikebledsoe | To go back and say how was consciousness formed. How did we come to these considerations. What actually is science. There is. |
02:03:07.94 | Max Shank | Well think of the usefulness of code and the usefulness of 24 hour news it is antithetical so a book is code a person is the computer Basically that runs that code. And so if you want something to be organized. It should be organized by outcome or by subject or by material. But if you have it organized by what the fucking pricks are talking about on the Tv today. That's the worst organization possible and it's very difficult to get any kind of good information out of that and you're going to be basically putting out your own schizophrenic psychological fires because you're like oh my god didn't realize what was happening in Serbia and then the next week you're like oh my god I didn't realize what was happening in. South Africa and then you're like oh my god I didn't realize what was happening to the veterans and then pretty soon you're whipped up into this frenzy where you're upset about everything but you can't do anything about it and it makes you feel so disconnected because. What you're aware of your radius of awareness and your radius of control are so far apart and that goes back to why working with stuff with your hands even just moving stuff around like moving weights around with your hands that'll make a big difference. It'll connect you to reality. |
02:05:55.26 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
02:06:07.56 | Max Shank | Go climb a tree. Go take a walk Boom you're immediately connected into reality into moving your body locomotion or projectiles moving other stuff and if you are if you're just whipped into this frenzy because you know people are trying to program other people. It's all we do. In fact. |
02:06:24.40 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
02:06:46.70 | Max Shank | Pretty much as we try to program other people. Ah usually with the best of intentions too like I'm sure there are None of people who think school is like a good idea and and I just don't but that's fine. Yeah yeah, they they probably want people to like. |
02:07:08.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, their heart's in the right place You think it's best for the kids. Well people also think that it's um, ah just they they think I think a lot of people they go Well I did it so it must be good. So other people should do it I mean that's. |
02:07:21.12 | Max Shank | Behave themselves and like get married and like kept. |
02:07:41.16 | Max Shank | Um, well and that's even a different thing like it. It's like hazing. |
02:07:47.92 | mikebledsoe | That's big in the military of like I'm looking at the training and I go this doesn't really make sense. We're not really optimizing for getting better at our job. They're like well this we we went through it and no I'm like all whatever. |
02:08:14.64 | Max Shank | Sometimes things are done a certain way because it really is the best way and sometimes things are done a certain way literally just because that's how they've been doing it and no one can imagine a different no one even tries to imagine a different way. |
02:08:25.96 | mikebledsoe | Sometimes. |
02:08:54.30 | Max Shank | You know and that's why you don't want to fight things Anyway, speaking of patterns when you fight something you immediately create a counterforce even if you punch the shit out of that thing upon that connection of your fist and that fucker's face. There's a counter force going right back into your fist and then more. Metaphorically speaking you're going to create a counter response to your active opposing Force. So That's why it's always better to obsolete than to fight if you have the option. |
02:09:52.98 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I was reading a book yesterday that was talking about that is the the the people who are censoring are fighting. They're really fighting decentralization but censorship creates the necessity for decentralization and. You know Twitter Facebook Instagram they're trying to fight misinformation but the harder that they tried to fight misinformation with censorship the more prolific decentralization becomes because people start getting they start leaving the platform to go. |
02:11:07.18 | Max Shank | It's natural. It's like cat and mouse. It's like it's natural cat and mouse evolution. The cat evolves longer claws. The mouse gets smaller and more clever. Ah same kind of idea right? You have hackers and then you got people who work in. |
02:11:09.80 | mikebledsoe | To go to something That's not a platform. Yeah. |
02:11:42.86 | Max Shank | Ah, software security which of course are also hackers. But they're basically like 1 upping each other all the time just the way that creatures have seemed to ah grow and evolve and fork out into these different sort of test branches almost. |
02:12:13.96 | mikebledsoe | Now. Yeah. |
02:12:20.66 | Max Shank | So it's better to obsolete and speaking of the patterns like we were talking about. Ah, it's hard to recognize which of the programs coming in are important and not important a lot of the time I think that can be a real challenge. |
02:12:53.38 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, well that's a pattern too. The things that you're filtering what's important and not important so fast that it's it's built up over the years of life that you go. |
02:12:57.58 | Max Shank | Most everything is ah like not important that. |
02:13:31.62 | mikebledsoe | This is this is important. Not important people decide really quick and they miss opportunities really great opportunities all the time just pass right by them. There's there's this thing called the reticular activating system are familiar to ah Ras. Okay. |
02:13:41.52 | Max Shank | Oh. |
02:14:02.20 | Max Shank | No, but I'd like to be. |
02:14:09.30 | mikebledsoe | You probably are you just probably don't know by name and it's it's if I start if I go out and buy a red truck. What am I going to see on the road all the time a red truck. Yeah, we prime we primed the system. |
02:14:26.64 | Max Shank | Okay I do know what you're talking about. |
02:14:42.64 | mikebledsoe | For now seeing red trucks because red truck has become very important to me I just spent $50000 on a red truck and I love this thing and I have this emotional connection to it and so now I start seeing them everywhere so the same thing happens with ah. |
02:15:04.80 | Max Shank | Whoa. |
02:15:22.16 | mikebledsoe | People and their patterns is they they notice patterns and make things important only because that's always how it's been, but you can you can intentionally change the pattern of your mind through things like mantras or by by having a conversation with someone else who can create. Help create a possibility for you. You have a conversation you and I have a deep conversation about a topic and the next thing I know I'm meeting people who can help me with this opportunity. Maybe you and I have this business idea and all of a sudden people start coming through that can contribute to this business idea. And that's the that's the ah Ras and that's most people's ah Ras is really just running the same program all the time they're noticing the same things that no purple cows. Yeah, but if you can. |
02:17:00.86 | Max Shank | No purple cows. You're just seeing normal stuff. |
02:17:14.55 | mikebledsoe | Intentionally go in there and tinker with the pattern of how you think which is fairly easy then you can start seeing new opportunities. |
02:17:31.86 | Max Shank | You know what's wild is the only reason you can see anything at all is because of Pattern recognition your your eyes just giving you a very um surface level reflection of photons that have bounced back and each. |
02:17:44.45 | mikebledsoe | Now. |
02:18:11.62 | Max Shank | Color has a different ah frequency to it and you have different Organs rods and cones in your eye that decipher those and eventually it does create this image but the only reason that image means anything is because of Pattern Recognition. So if you um. Try to like if you kind of simplify it down if you see a wall of triangles and then one square in there, you're going to be like whoa. That's ah, that's a little weird. You're going to be like what's that square doing in this wall of triangles and vice versa and that's why as you get to be ah like to have more simple type of vision like a lizard. Ah, many Lizards at least they can't really see stuff unless it moves and that's why they say that the eye is attracted to movement and when you start getting into the neuroscience of Vision. It's It's a deep deep Rabbit hole. In understanding the patterns around you but it just shows you once again, what it's useful to show you so you can find the banana and not get eaten by a tiger or a hawk or something like that. |
02:20:29.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well is where something where psychedelics get really interesting. Take a couple hits of acid and you start noticing what it what acid one of the things it does lsd it. It starts creating new connections in the brain. Usually the neural connections are going between the None shortest points between the None and that's one of the things that creates the pattern of attention. Yeah, and mushrooms do this lsd does this but it starts the. |
02:21:16.80 | Max Shank | Um, just like fungus and most things most things yeah water. |
02:21:36.36 | mikebledsoe | It starts connecting parts of the brain that have never been connected before and even there's this thing called I think it's Synestasia where you can see colors or or taste sounds yeah see music and um, but yeah, yeah, bet. |
02:21:51.84 | Max Shank | He see music. Yeah sounds cool I've never experienced that myself I would love to see music I mean I've seen like us. |
02:22:14.40 | mikebledsoe | And you've never seen music. |
02:22:27.14 | Max Shank | Ah I've seen us use pretty cool tools to turn sound waves into vibrating Sand or lasers or sine waves or. |
02:22:35.26 | mikebledsoe | Um, there was a day I had I was on 2 hits ass and maybe 4 somewhere in there and um, sometimes I heard to tell what you took I was listening to music and I was looking at this picture. |
02:23:06.10 | Max Shank | It's another reason why you're not the research department hard to know if it was 2 or 4 Okay, so don't go to Mike for the recipe. Okay I'm not sure if it's one tablespoon of baking soda or one cup I don't know. |
02:23:22.94 | mikebledsoe | Ah. Whatever same thing. Ah so but I'm looking I'm looking at a painting and with each beat of the meat of the music. The colors are changing and the music and the painting are interacting and the painting's actually not that colorful. There was maybe. |
02:23:41.60 | Max Shank | It's not the same thing. |
02:24:09.88 | mikebledsoe | 3 or 4 colors total but colors were changing and then there were images that were they were appearing that I didn't notice before but you could also go hiking out nature and then it disrupts the patterns of what you already see because people walk they can go walk a trail or they go walk around their neighborhood and they don't. |
02:24:21.74 | Max Shank | That's cool. |
02:24:49.62 | mikebledsoe | They kind of notice the same things they don't notice the same things I mean people miss stuff all time if if you you know you've probably been hiking with people and you're noticing. It's like oh or they notice something you don't but if you're on something like Lsd you're gonna notice. So many other things and that's why a lot of times people really don't move much. They don't they're not going to travel a long distance when on that that medicine and they're going to because they're so busy noticing the palm of their hand and looking at oh my gosh look at all these lines and. |
02:25:30.82 | Max Shank | Let he. |
02:26:01.58 | mikebledsoe | And your ability to see is just is is so enhanced but that's a really good example of something that disrupts a pattern to where you really can't go about your daily life like if I if I'm on asset and you ask me to go to a cashier and make a purchase. It's It's not going to happen I Just can't do the. |
02:26:35.44 | Max Shank | Hey. |
02:26:39.98 | mikebledsoe | Those patterns that are so ingrained that I whip my card out normally don't even think about it. But if I have to buy a sandwich at a festival. Um I'm having a problem. |
02:26:46.32 | Max Shank | My. Yeah I mean when you overdo it on any kind of substance Beyond like capabilities. Ah I think ah. |
02:27:13.20 | mikebledsoe | That's true. Well the difference between that like alcohol like you're just you're like you're so depressed that you can't make sense of the world and with Lsd Everything is so loud that you can't filter it all. |
02:27:33.56 | Max Shank | I Just remember when I was in college I was really ah hammered I Drank like a small bottle of tequila on my own and I got into an argument with a ticketing machine on the trolley and we couldn't resolve our differences So I ultimately had to jump. Over the turnsile. But I mean I I literally couldn't figured out how to pay $2 at ah at a screen but thats because I was inebriated Beyond belief but ah you mentioned something cool which is you notice more and what? what is a pattern. |
02:28:15.00 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
02:28:47.52 | Max Shank | Or what is a frequency without a sensor to pick it up so people have different levels of sensitivity to different things like when you're when you're learning how to emf is one when you're learning how to do massage right? I mean. |
02:29:00.20 | mikebledsoe | Um, emf is 1 Yeah. |
02:29:27.32 | Max Shank | I'm guessing a lot of people have experienced a good massage and a bad one and it's really obvious when the person can't feel the structures of your body with precision. You know it's very obvious and so. |
02:29:57.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
02:30:06.46 | Max Shank | There are different levels of sensitivity to like let's say your fingertips like think about Braille. For example, if you if you dragged your hand across a bunch of bumps on a page you would have no idea what they mean, but someone who had finally tuned their sensory skills. Would pick that up right away and I think that's what the the substances some substances can do is they can open up your sensor. They basically turn you into this big radar dish that is capable of picking up way more signal than usual and I think why it's so. |
02:31:04.68 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
02:31:21.40 | Max Shank | Ah, overwhelming to go walk around is because instead of taking in. Let's say five gigabytes of visual information. Every step now you're taking five thousand gigabytes or five terabytes of visual visual ah input every step and. |
02:31:51.12 | mikebledsoe | It's a lot. It's a big difference. |
02:31:59.88 | Max Shank | You know if you don't have the right equipment. You can't sense those things. That's why we see ah rgb Basically and that's why the little tiny lights on your screen that you may be watching right now are red green and blue because that's. |
02:32:12.78 | mikebledsoe | Me. |
02:32:37.58 | Max Shank | How we see things and other animals have different ah structure in their eyes like sadly for asian deer they can't really see orange so that makes a tiger that is orange with black stripes nearly impossible to see in that environment. But. If you put that tiger in a different environment like I don't know Alaska or some shit where it's or or somewhere where it's white. It's not going to camouflage very well at all. So it's all about that specific relationship between the deer that can't see orange the environment. |
02:33:32.56 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
02:33:54.64 | Max Shank | And the color of the cat and the pattern on the Cat. So. It's is very fascinating. Um, how it's always that relationship. It's really important to think of it in terms of what relationship we would love for some things to be totally universal, but apart from the fact that. You know everything is jiggling around all the time there aren't too many ah fundamental truths that are always the Case. It's usually ah contextual. |
02:34:48.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I want I want to bring this to I want to get some ah practical things here. So um, other than taking lsd talking about breaking out of old patterns and into new patterns. Ah, one of the exercises I actually got from Dan Sullivan and it's the None x thinking I think it's what he calls it ten x and it's all right? You're creating an offer. You're you're creating say a coaching package. |
02:35:40.34 | Max Shank | Hit. |
02:35:58.26 | Max Shank | The. |
02:36:01.82 | mikebledsoe | And you know so many coaches have a hard time imagining being able to charge more than 2 or $300 a month or $400 a month and so and so it's good to sit down. Go well what if you were to sell something for 2 or $3000 a month. Let's add a 0 here. |
02:36:17.92 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
02:36:39.58 | mikebledsoe | What would that offer look like what would make it that valuable and all of a sudden all these ideas come flooding in was a well shit man if I had that kind of if it was of that much value and I had some money to play around with I would actually be able to vote more of my time energy into this person or I would be able to partner with this other. Other thing and maybe I'm doing blood work now on top of what I'm already offering so the the None x thinking saying? Okay, what would you if we were to take 10 ah 10 times what you're currently charging what would that look like and on the flip side. There's also what would you offer. What could you offer for none of what you're charging. What would be $20 or $30 and now you start having all sorts of different ideas about and that's one way of breaking out of a pattern and it doesn't just apply to money it can apply to. |
02:38:00.56 | Max Shank | Totally yeah. |
02:38:31.20 | mikebledsoe | A lot of other things that the 10 x thinking or the None thinking if you had 10 times more time in the day you know what would you do or I really like having saying yeah you have yet 10 say there's 240 hours |
02:38:43.28 | Max Shank | Um, that's a good question 10 times more time in the day. |
02:39:08.40 | mikebledsoe | And the day that'd be That's more than a week. What if you what if you had a whole week to accomplish what and other people were just living a day. What would that look like. |
02:39:12.58 | Max Shank | I think I would. So if I if I knew I was going to live None times longer than them. |
02:39:33.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, that's ah, that's a good way of thinking about it. Let's just let's just imagine you're going to live to a thousand and everyone else is going to live to a None |
02:39:40.20 | Max Shank | Well so age isn't about the number of days you've been Alive. It's about the knowledge that you've accumulated in the experiences you've had right. Being alive lots of days doesn't mean shit if you spent your whole day just like living inside Watching. Ah. |
02:40:15.94 | mikebledsoe | Well let's just but we're measuring in days. That's the measure all right? Let's say in a month and um and in a month you lived um, you got as much done in six months and everyone else got. |
02:40:26.24 | Max Shank | What do you? So what's the question. |
02:40:39.78 | Max Shank | I mean. |
02:40:55.42 | mikebledsoe | Done in one month let's just look at it like that I think you do too which but most people don't like most people would what? what? what? What comes up leverage is 1 thing but also when we started thinking about time in this way I think. |
02:40:56.90 | Max Shank | I mean I already do that. |
02:41:10.50 | Max Shank | Right? It's about it's about leverage. It's all about leverage. |
02:41:32.28 | mikebledsoe | It's a really great way to get away from comparison because if I if I stop I can't compare myself to someone else if we're talking about a 10 X difference in time if I'm experiencing a 10 X difference in time than other people which I think you're one of those people that experience time different. Than other people. Most people are cramming their schedule with back to back to back to back and have no time to breathe and you're someone who is ah has a lot more leisure space. Yeah. |
02:42:31.78 | Max Shank | It's hard to get me on a calendar like this show actually is wild because I've never understood the fact that we've been so consistent I mean folks like it. It really just goes to show how much I enjoy the experience because I and everybody else. We do exactly what we want all the time. Ah, we do whatever we think is going to give us the best result this is a lot of fun. So I do it if it's not fun I don't really do it and the idea of cramming a day full of appointments sounds awful but having the ability. To connect with who I like sounds sounds amazing. |
02:43:48.76 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so we have that that. Ah, if if you could say hey I'm going to live 1000 years how would you behave? How would you? How would you live each day. It would probably you would probably do things differently and if I were to say that you experience. |
02:44:16.40 | Max Shank | I would. |
02:44:26.86 | mikebledsoe | You only have let's say 3 hours where everyone else has 24 hours in a day. How do you say you only have three what we call it three waking hours if you only had three waking hours well everyone else had a full you know 16 hour waking day and you only had 3 what would. |
02:44:33.30 | Max Shank | Um, yeah, right. Um, yeah now. |
02:45:06.56 | mikebledsoe | What would you do with your time and that's a really great way to find priorities because if you only have most people they look at their day and go I've got a 16 hour waking period of time and I don't have enough time in the day that's a problem. |
02:45:32.84 | Max Shank | Well I mean totally what you're talking about is the crux of success or power Even um, basically it's pressure or force per area or per. Distance right? Like how much effort or how much what can you? invest energy wise to get the largest return at the end. Basically ah if you could spend yeah and what you're doing basically is. |
02:46:29.10 | mikebledsoe | No. |
02:46:45.48 | Max Shank | 2 orders of magnitude mathematical thinking up and down so you have a None x swing in your ideas about that topic. So you're creating an upper and lower bound that are certainly further away than most people would naturally think which is why that ah framework or that. |
02:46:48.10 | mikebledsoe | Empty. |
02:47:22.38 | Max Shank | Ah, pattern to filter this idea through is so useful because it gets you to think how could I divide the membership by None how could I multiply it by 10 how could I get the cost. How could I increase the cost 10 x you know all that stuff. But it's. It comes back down to leverage ultimately because it's how much can you ah get out energy-wise for how much you put in and if we're using time as the limiting limiting factor because ah for us energy and time are. So closely linked. They might as well be the same thing for most for for the sake of most things but it ah it's still important to see like what gives you the biggest return on one hour of your time and just thinking about um. |
02:48:37.24 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
02:49:12.58 | Max Shank | What to do in terms of multiply by 10 divide by 10 very cool but it is ultimately about leverage. It is about how much you can get out for each one that you put in per unit of investment. |
02:49:36.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I said we wrap this up. My computer is giving me weird signals and let's bring it home. |
02:49:46.88 | Max Shank | Bring it bring it home bring it home I mean that's a see this is what I was worried about I feel like there's a lot left to discuss I feel like we didn't get into the different vibrations of very dense and. Porous materials and I we hardly got into computer programming at all but look I'm going to I'm going to keep it simple from my end all right when it comes to human beings today. Everything we have has been built off of the accumulation of these patterns. These patterns are our Dna. These patterns are the books that have sustained or the stories that have sustained the human programming. That has sustained and the programming or the code or the recipes for how to make really insanely awesome tools and I would say those are like the 3 practical things for human beings and then. I think it's fun to talk about crystals and metal and manufacturing and all that stuff but without the code without the instructions without the chain of events without knowing how to put all those links together in the proper sequence. You can't get a car. You can't get a cellphone. You can't even get a fucking good loaf of bread. The recipe's got to be done in order. The only way you'll know is with the pattern the code. |
02:53:07.20 | mikebledsoe | Excellent, yeah and look at your own Life. You're living out a pattern from day to day and if something's not going the way that you want it to go analyze that Pattern. That's what I call Dysfunction. Something's not going the way you want to go. There's a dysfunction in your pattern somewhere. And it's a fract.. It's fractal Nature. You may need to look really far back and mostly the patterns of behavior and the ways of thinking and your emotional patterns all stem from your childhood. So if you want to be able to to really look at that you might have to get into a really reflective space and maybe. Come to some hard truths and that may give you the opportunity to make new decisions moving forward and create New Patterns. Thanks for joining me max where where people finding you. What are we doing http://maxshaink.com. |
02:54:52.64 | Max Shank | http://maxshank.com at maxank. Ah, if you guys have any questions for the show or about the show I will I'll I'll answer him I think that would be fun like to connect with the audience a little bit more. So thanks for tuning in. Thank you Mike. |
02:55:15.22 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and I got a summit coming up this weekend for coaches out there. It starts on Thursday we're gonna go four to five hours a day and Thursday through Saturday and then if you're an academy member you you obviously get up extra access vi ipd on sunday. Ah, if you want to get it in on that it's a pay what you want go to shop dot http://thestrongcoach.com. Thanks y'all. That's a great deal. |
02:56:02.74 | Max Shank | That's a good deal. |
00:01.12 | Max Shank | Here's the deal. So there's a perfect, no intro this we're just here now you're here we're here I'm here you're here. We're all here the official show but this is for just the like inner club. But anyway I was going to say a case study. |
00:02.60 | mikebledsoe | It's the first one. |
00:16.94 | mikebledsoe | We'll do the intro when we start the official show. |
00:35.54 | Max Shank | On viewer engagement. One of the best I've ever seen was this Youtube channel called Ants Canada okay I think it's like a filipino dude. It's some asian guy who has this Youtube channel called Ants Canada and every fucking film. |
00:51.20 | mikebledsoe | Ahead. |
01:14.58 | Max Shank | Is about ants and ant colonies and he sells ant gear but basically he has this membership that he calls the Ac senate right? and so he basically has people pay to have a say in all kinds of weird stuff like. What are we gonna do with this new colony. What are we gonna name this thing and he gives them like preferential voting rights for what happens in the community. It's so crazy. How ah how much this guy connects with the audience. And's so it's a weird stuff ah because ants and ant colonies are pretty weird but talk about a case study for how to engage with an audience. This guy is dialed ants Canada case study ants st ants canada is a case study for. |
02:57.28 | mikebledsoe | Aunts Canada alright. |
03:07.76 | Max Shank | How to engage with your audience on multiple levels. He sells physical products. He has basically ah a membership where you get called? yeah like ants like the bug the insect. Yeah exactly it's incredible. |
03:28.28 | mikebledsoe | It's a and TS like like the like the insect to podcast. |
03:46.40 | Max Shank | No, it's video series Youtube thing. It's not a podcast but he sells ant colony plastic molded parts to people. He also has this this. It's the weirdest thing I've ever heard of like you would wonder like why is it that people would pay to get to make decisions but he has positioned the joy of naming a new ant colony or deciding what to do. In this like new video series as good as Tom Sawyer ah portraying the benefits of whitewashing offense. He's like wouldn't you guys like to make this decision for him like they are driving his content and paying to drive the content. It's. |
05:30.86 | mikebledsoe | It's really I mean it's as Facebook Twitter you know create the platform. Yeah create the platform and just let them let the let the people be the product was that the people will create the product. They'll be the product. |
05:32.38 | Max Shank | It's unbelievable Youtube oh my god what an acquisition. |
06:02.50 | mikebledsoe | And then you just sell advertising. |
06:08.32 | Max Shank | It's like ah what they did with was it Hong Kong or Singapore can't I remember 1 of them. It's like the guy's name was Lee coshing you ever hear that guy. Ah. |
06:30.90 | mikebledsoe | E. |
06:41.24 | Max Shank | Rikash xing Hong Kong business magnate none richest guy in the world. His whole thing. He just like built up. Ah let's see hold on. I don't know his whole thing was about owning the port that that was the that was the ah whole story. Basically. |
07:24.20 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, it's kind of like the the gold rush. The people who made the most money were the ones selling the shovels I think that's where maybe Levi's came from the blue jeans is yeah I'm not 100% sure on this but I I think that ah that. |
07:38.16 | Max Shank | Right. Um, leave eyes. |
08:03.32 | mikebledsoe | That denim company or maybe another denim company Levi's make sense though. Ah made their fortune and their start by selling denim clothing to miners. It's really durable. |
08:25.20 | Max Shank | Like little kids or like go look for gold in the mines Now they probably send sell more to little kids I don't know I don't wear a lot of jeans. Do you wear a lot of jeans. |
08:36.64 | mikebledsoe | Look go look for golden mines. Yeah, yeah, off to I'd like to not anymore not with the not with the clothes that come out today I just discovered. Um. |
09:02.16 | Max Shank | I Hardly wear jeans. It's not that comfortable. |
09:15.54 | mikebledsoe | Viori made a new pant that is looks really clean, but dude great for travel because I can wear them in a hundred degree weather I might as well be wearing shorts they breathe So well, they look nice and you know I. |
09:24.24 | Max Shank | Ah. Are yeah. |
09:51.22 | mikebledsoe | I Don't even like to wear shorts I don't like to wear casual shorts I Either want to wear pants or athletic shorts and it might be something it might be like spillover from the the military because that's pretty much how it works there. But I think like casual shorts look silly on men. Ah. |
10:01.80 | Max Shank | A. |
10:17.60 | Max Shank | Right? right. Um, like what? what do you mean?? casual shorts like cargo pants. |
10:31.28 | mikebledsoe | That's just like you know like yeah like like cargo shorts or just like the shorts that are pants that are cut off. You know it's It's like those are kind of silly. It's like when I just wear athletic shorts I'm like an athletic shorts and fanny pack or I'm going to be wearing. |
10:49.96 | Max Shank | Ah, you know what. |
11:07.94 | mikebledsoe | You know some slacks. |
11:10.94 | Max Shank | You know what? I'm really into is like the like the ah Rei type of hiking pant and I and I want to get some that turn into shorts but I was thinking about it and I don't know if I would rather have them unzip all the way. |
11:22.78 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
11:47.58 | Max Shank | Or if I would want to have them roll up and clip on I haven't seen many like that there are some out there because I have I have a couple pairs totally but the utility I mean. |
11:51.50 | mikebledsoe | I think roll up and clip on makes more sense there. There are some out there I've seen some yeah the zip out I try to avoid moving parts as I try to. Until the zipper breaks plus rolling up just looks way cooler. That's that's the real Rob there they look cooler than having a zipper hanging off your shorts. |
12:26.52 | Max Shank | Is fantastic. So maybe maybe the roll up till the zipper breaks. Yeah, that's a good point. Those are my my favorite pants I got a couple at Costco they're just. |
12:57.00 | Max Shank | Yeah, that's a great point I went on a bike ride yesterday actually mountain bike ride for the None time in like years. Ah, all because I was learning about air compressors and how our compressors work. |
13:03.40 | mikebledsoe | I mean. |
13:34.56 | Max Shank | And so I was getting out my air compressor and I was like how how does my air compressor work. How powerful is this thing Really what kind of stuff because I bought one when I got my house because I was like every house needs an air compressor because I was ah like I didn't really know? Yeah, like yeah. |
13:59.32 | mikebledsoe | Oh like a proper air compressor one with a big tank. Yeah, not the kind that you carry around in your car. Yeah something you could use with tools and whatnot. Yeah yeah, I'm into those those. |
14:12.76 | Max Shank | Like a little pancake. No no I wouldn't It's a little too big and heavy for that. Yeah, like a nail gun staple gun that kind of thing and so those things are savage. |
14:36.38 | mikebledsoe | I've got some air compressor tools. If if you're gonna work on a car I don't know how I don't know how I worked on a car before I have that which I don't really work on cars much anymore. But I remember that being a major upgrade. |
15:04.26 | Max Shank | Yeah I think knowing how to put stuff together like that is such an underrated ability because I notice as I am problem solving in the garage with my hands. It makes me it makes it easier for me to visualize how to put other things together. Like Ideas. You know this attaches to this and you have to divide this. You have to sharpen this. You have to round off these edges. There are all these problem solving things that go on with how to put stuff together and it makes me even think of like mathematics how that factors in to. |
15:43.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well, there's um. |
16:20.62 | Max Shank | Putting stuff together and how much how much you just learn through the process of doing it. You know it's good to know arithmetic. But I have it. |
16:32.70 | mikebledsoe | There's a book. There's a book called the metaphors we live by and have you read it did you did you buy it on my recommendation or did you just happen to get it simultaneously. Wow Yeah I I hardly run in anyone who's read it. Ah. |
16:52.62 | Max Shank | I think I had I think I bought it before? Yeah yeah, ah yes, and like most books I've read I maybe retained like 10% |
17:08.18 | mikebledsoe | But have you read it. |
17:22.74 | mikebledsoe | Got it? Yeah so metaphors we live by really highlights how the mind works and that everything in the mind is a metaphor to something an objective reality and so ah so kind of like the. |
17:53.96 | Max Shank | Right now. |
18:00.98 | mikebledsoe | Projectile and project metaphor We talked about before yeah eyeballs. Um. |
18:06.94 | Max Shank | Eyeballs eyeballs are super reliable but they're not showing you objective reality because there are a lot of layers. |
18:19.88 | mikebledsoe | Well, they are but you're not filtering it. But anyways. |
18:32.44 | Max Shank | Well your eyes don't show you objective reality your eyes show you? How light is reacting with matter but there's a lot going on that is beyond. The visible spectrum is what I'm saying. |
18:44.12 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
18:55.10 | mikebledsoe | Totally. But so one of the things it talks about is ah like ontological metaphors and so one is how we refer to the mind. So the mind is a machine so there's all these examples of. |
19:26.90 | Max Shank | A. |
19:33.86 | mikebledsoe | Ah, that in in the English language the mind is a machine and it's also brittle and so when you look at the English language as a whole the majority of the references to the mind is that it's a mechanical thing that's brittle. |
19:48.36 | Max Shank | A. |
20:09.12 | Max Shank | Right? It sounds dangerous. Sounds like a dangerous belief to me like that that makes me a little queasy even based on how I see the mind or how I would try to define the mind or even just the brain. |
20:13.48 | mikebledsoe | And so ah, people believe that it yes and. |
20:44.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, but but you know and and it's common language is as people are talking are unconsciously talking about it in this way. So they're further embedding this thing is true and so they they they don't know how to treat their own own mind or organize it because they actually have an incorrect. |
20:48.30 | Max Shank | Like the organ because I think that's different. |
21:00.58 | Max Shank | Um, right right. |
21:23.92 | mikebledsoe | Or an inaccurate view of what it actually is ah so one of the things the book talks about is how we use objects to ah create Concepts so anything that's conceptual. We're having we need to. |
21:28.26 | Max Shank | He no. |
21:48.00 | Max Shank | E. |
21:58.28 | mikebledsoe | Associate it with an object out in physical space and so ah, one of the things that I've noticed I'm in total agreement with you I've been I've been meditating on this because I read that book about a year ago and I noticed that as I've been doing more physical tasks and building things that my ability to problem solving in the conceptual realm has gone way up and anytime I'm having a conceptual problem I go work on something that's on an object I go build something or fix something. Ah. |
22:45.12 | Max Shank | A. |
23:07.18 | mikebledsoe | All of a sudden the world makes more sense and I think part of that is if we spend too much time in the conceptual Realm without being in the objective Realm Then we end up. Ah, we end up way out in this place that doesn't make any sense. And and we become ungrounded and I know you and ah I are alike in this way because we love the mental Masturbation. We'll go off into some conceptual Realm and start changing. You know, ah physicists do this. They'll change one lot of physics to solve a problem and then they try to. Bring it back and so and then reapply to law and and it's one way of doing experimentation but the problem is a lot of people start doing that and they never come back to Earth and so I think having that balance between doing things and objective reality and conceptual. And conceptualizing things is really really beneficial. |
25:12.48 | Max Shank | Oh Yeah I was laughing so many times there because it makes me think about how enslaved people are by thinking certain things matter and the word matter is funny right? Because. Stuff matters. Ah you know water is matter air is matter and these ideas that we have. It's like we think too many things matter that aren't matter at all. |
25:51.44 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
26:02.36 | mikebledsoe | This bottle is matter. |
26:26.50 | mikebledsoe | Ah, well does just to make the statement that something is matter that isn't matter pulls you out of reality. You've become ungrounded. |
26:28.36 | Max Shank | And you are just more and more divorced from reality because hold right? of course look um these words and ideas are. Very useful and it's never the complete truth because they're just symbols right? but they are concrete enough to give us the plans to make a plane or a computer I mean that's all language derived and that's how the matter is directed. So. The ideas are like the pattern like Pattern Pattern father and the stuff the substance the matter the mother ma her modern is ah guided by our ideas. But if you don't have what's that yeah. |
28:09.34 | mikebledsoe | Oh man I'm loving these metaphors that that makes so much sense because that the father is is the structure of like the pattern structure and the matter is the stuff. |
28:23.80 | Max Shank | Yeah, if you don't yeah if you don't have the father's the pattern the Pattern the pattern right? mother is the matter. Yeah, the stuff and the ah the energy. |
28:47.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
28:55.84 | Max Shank | It's like kinetic and potential I mean there are a lot of ways that you can ah yin and young and dichotomize these ideas right? But ah my point is that we are made of matter you eat an orange. You actually are that orange is becoming you. And your body is able to break it down into its basic components and then that stuff becomes you and the stuff that doesn't become you becomes shit or sweat or something like I mean it's crazy, but it literally becomes you so this idea. That when you um, get your hands involved. You get so much of your brain involved and then it's rooted in a reality that is very easy to understand. It's very It's all about, um. God I guess it's all about power really when you get down to it because we're talking about ah force times distance ah or work over time is power ah, power is work over time work is force times distance. And that's that's a reality that's easy to track momentum things like that all this dark matter. Ah like black hole shit is mental masturbation. It's fine. It's mental masturbation though. But once you start getting in there and you can do macrame you can. Ah, make something out of wood. You could carve something out of Clay. Ah but building that connection between your creativity and your curiosity and this physical reality is critical and if you apply that same thing to fitness. Fitness is essentially ah how well you're able to deliver force how well you're able to deliver force into your right leg so you can run and take a step with your right leg and how well you can absorb. |
32:56.36 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
33:21.00 | Max Shank | And return Force I Mean That's why my latest training program is called elasticity because it's all about absorbing and returning forests without ah permanent deformation and that's that's like as close as you can get to the best longevity practice. And we all have our pet loves for ah what makes fitness good or what makes you live a long time. But if you ah you know have good friendships and family kind of ties if you have fun and if you. Ah, fast. So You just don't eat too Much. You'll live a really long time even if you're just like medium elastic Fitness you just need ah a basic level of how to interact with your environment with these alternating forces. |
34:48.74 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
35:06.26 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
35:11.64 | Max Shank | Ah, so it just it's very centering even climbing a tree go climb a tree and then you are like intimately associated with the forces required to lift you up off the ground and once you're in those situations you have room to explore and then this. Idea of like what matters or like what you should be fucking prideful of like I God I was just thinking the other day you know almost every holiday is about victimization that we have. Like almost every holiday is like it fucking kills me because we have like okay we have like memorial day that's ah, it's for the people who were killed like we are appreciating those poor victims but that's what they were. They were victims and of course we don't talk about like why they were victimized. |
36:44.78 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
37:07.34 | Max Shank | Because people don't really like that when you go in? Oh dude I'll be fucking kicked right out of the cemetery if I say these guys died for nothing but the fucking ambitions of old politicians with nothing better to do than tell other people how to live their fucking lives. |
37:07.66 | mikebledsoe | Of you start getting into that but people will get offended. |
37:46.40 | Max Shank | And so people don't like people don't like that no way because you know to generalize Bobby Joe went into that Vietnam and he did his country proud and that is a way better belief to take with you than he died for nothing. |
37:46.40 | mikebledsoe | Um, people don't like that. No no. |
38:08.42 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, you know what? um. |
38:25.90 | Max Shank | But some fuck fuckwit politicians who just think they know best right. |
38:32.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I um, my girlfriend and I are out. We do things around town and Texas is a very patriotic place and I which means I get a lot of discounts because I'm a veteran and. |
39:04.54 | Max Shank | The. |
39:09.66 | mikebledsoe | I get a 5% discount on my guns at Cabels. Ah, it's i't I can't get a discount on guns anywhere. Ah yeah, but I get in free at play at parks and stuff and in Texas where other people are paying to get in anyways. So I get. |
39:20.44 | Max Shank | That's pretty cool and. |
39:46.30 | mikebledsoe | Hit with thank you for your service pretty frequently and and Ashley my fiancee she she knows how I feel about every you know about a lot of things she goes. What's it like what's it like to hear that because you know I always just say oh yeah, you're welcome. You know that's what my. |
39:49.18 | Max Shank | If. |
40:05.30 | Max Shank | Um, ah a threat. |
40:24.30 | mikebledsoe | My my pleasure you know, whatever it is that comes to mind at the time you know whatever I'm just trying to make them feel good about them giving me a compliment or whatever. But and when I did join I did think I was going in to be of service to humanity that was. |
40:29.28 | Max Shank | Ah, thank you. |
40:42.14 | Max Shank | Right. |
41:01.94 | mikebledsoe | Impression I was under but the yeah where I stand now is like yeah I don't feel proud I don't feel ashamed I kind of just I'm very neutral about it. It's I've dealt with the fact that I got duped and like. |
41:19.78 | Max Shank | He no. |
41:36.18 | Max Shank | I Guess you could call that neutral. Ah. |
41:41.94 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I mean I got well I got duped and I've accepted it I'm at peace with it right? like we've all been duped. We've all been duped and you know what I'm I'm lucky because you know I did get some really great experiences out of that that made me a very resilient guy and. |
41:52.52 | Max Shank | Ah, ah, okay, right. |
42:08.80 | Max Shank | Yeah, and. |
42:17.24 | mikebledsoe | You know there's There's a lot of benefits I got from it most mostly the discounts but the. |
42:28.64 | Max Shank | I Just imagine if someone said take you for your service and he said yeah I was probably a mistake. Or or just like I wouldn't recommend I wouldn't recommend it. |
42:46.66 | mikebledsoe | Ah, you know I'm I'm trying that out. Well, it's bad enough that people are going to hear this on the show. Ah, but yeah, it's like ah that's all we know. But yeah, it's um. |
43:08.84 | Max Shank | Um, hey look it's not for everybody. It wasn't for you. That's all we know it wasn't for you. It wasn't for you. |
43:24.40 | mikebledsoe | But what you're saying is accurate because the the way Well the well we can go back to the holidays. But when I look at when I look at um, the government and military service and all these things is when I started looking at the government is just there's a book called the Sovereign individual and in that book they talk about how. |
43:28.98 | Max Shank | These holidays. |
44:04.14 | mikebledsoe | Formation of government and how they were there to protect farmers from people who would come and take their shit and if they didn't hire them. They were gonna take their shit and if they did hire them. They're gonna take a percentage of their shit and so ah. Basically when you. |
44:42.80 | Max Shank | Basically you got guys with the swords and you got guys with the hose right till in the field then you got a sword guy and you got a hoe guy I'm more of a hoe guy I think. |
44:46.40 | mikebledsoe | Exactly and some and yeah, some so like in the beginning it was just like who who is ah who's got the most brute force and then over time they accumulated armor horses like a ah Knight in armor. Can take out like 20 people on foot. You know like the this is yeah this is this is it and so true that yeah, but but here's the thing is before the and but. |
45:30.20 | Max Shank | This is grounded in reality too unless one of those guys on foot happens to have a really nice bow and arrow and then that guy's fucked speaking of projectiles. |
46:00.98 | mikebledsoe | Before the invention of the rifle to become skilled to be able to afford the time and the money to be a great soldier. It was it was rare and so only a select few had been in the position to do so and so. |
46:36.56 | Max Shank | Even ants do this. They divide up the labor into soldiers and the workers back to the ants again. |
46:39.00 | mikebledsoe | You it. Yeah, yeah, and so the so the whole formation of the idea government has been basically the same it's it's identical to the Mob. You know you're. |
47:13.84 | Max Shank | It's identical to any group. It's about specialization Ideally right. |
47:17.42 | mikebledsoe | I Know if any group but like but any group that uses the threat of Force violence and coercion. So not every organization does that and so. |
47:40.12 | Max Shank | Um, is there any group where everybody does the same thing I think it's always about specialization. |
47:48.78 | mikebledsoe | It is about specialization but what I'm saying is what makes these organizations special is that they ah they rule by violence and a threat of violence coercion. These things that that's how they get people to comply. |
48:25.26 | Max Shank | Um, without nonviolently with like words instead of Swords basically. |
48:27.50 | mikebledsoe | With their rules. Well they use words. But if you disobey those words you will then meet you know. |
48:46.80 | Max Shank | Well, that's leverage right? That's that's really, um, how control works because if you if you ah if you don't follow the words and they just have to sword everybody to death. It's.. It's like not very good for anybody like now all the farmers are now all the farmers are.. It's kind of like a strike.. Basically I mean all these all these parallels within the symbolism of language I I have this idea that words have evolved basically the same as anything else. |
49:25.76 | mikebledsoe | It's not good for anybody. Yeah, so they got to use the there's ah. |
50:01.92 | Max Shank | In Nature longer sharper Claws Stronger Armor Camouflage Decoy Venom you know people fucking hurt each other with words all the time and only sometimes do they hurt. |
50:25.80 | mikebledsoe | And. |
50:36.14 | Max Shank | Ah, people with actual like sticks or weapons or something like that and sometimes they turn them on themselves right? We we fucking think Shitty things about ourselves we put ourselves through these I mean ah I guess I'm a fitness guy so we put ourselves through these like ball bursting workouts. |
50:37.36 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, they've gotten so good at can most of the time. |
51:13.82 | Max Shank | That are only harming us because we're just like so desperate. Um for some pie in the sky vision that we have I mean it's crazy how much language causes harm and self-harm. But anyway my point is like it's too inefficient. To go fucking hit everybody with the sword. It's way more efficient to just threaten the sword. |
51:54.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, the the the evolution has been that we use these words and so it was the words were simple and the sword was strong and then over time while the Swords gotten stronger. But the the words have become. People have gotten very clever lawyers are some of the most clever people on the planet ah politicians are basically they're just Lawyers. So These people are creating these words. Yeah, they create these words and you know, um, there are certain people. |
52:40.40 | Max Shank | Oh yeah. |
52:52.18 | Max Shank | Um, the word Warriors the word warriors. |
53:10.96 | mikebledsoe | Who are there's a very small population of people who are pretty much I think you and I fall in this category kind of like yeah you know those are just words and you want me to do this but I'm not going to and then you have the majority of the population that are like you're going to defy those words and. |
53:44.18 | Max Shank | Right. |
53:46.84 | mikebledsoe | And they completely freak out and they don't know what to do? They think that you're a bad person because you're ignoring these words. Um that somebody else put together and in order to try to control you so. |
54:07.22 | Max Shank | Well because otherwise like you are ruining their paradigm. You're destroying their sense of reality because they're like well I can't do that and I'm like actually there there are just consequences to everything you do you know that. |
54:18.14 | mikebledsoe | Totally destroying it. |
54:35.42 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, you can do anything you want. You can do a lot of things. |
54:42.84 | Max Shank | That's it you could do whatever there are consequences like if you tie a noose around your neck whack off in the closet. There's a much higher chance that you will die from hanging. But there's also a decent chance. You'll have an orgasm that's like None or so of the usual 1 |
55:20.40 | mikebledsoe | There's otherwise to do that You hit me up on my private blog on on how to do that without choking yourself. But anyways. |
55:22.40 | Max Shank | So. |
55:32.68 | Max Shank | Fellas you hear that Mike is offering orgasm boosters free orgasm boosters. What kind of percentage can you offer increase 50% increase a 3 hold on. |
55:40.64 | mikebledsoe | Free orgasm boosters at least 50% now now I would say out. No no like 300 I mean yeah and yeah, with with just common common things you can pick up at the store. |
56:07.68 | Max Shank | Ah, 300% increase |
56:19.18 | Max Shank | Like cocaine. Ah. |
56:19.76 | mikebledsoe | Nothing you don't have to go see a drug dealer. But if you no, no, no like like over the counter things. But then um, yeah, over the counter and then um, you know if you want to get into the other I can guarantee like a None x but you know that's going to require some hard to get ahold of. |
56:30.20 | Max Shank | Over the counter. |
56:55.60 | Max Shank | Honestly I think ah I think I think this would be something that you you could probably do a one pager on this for our premium Inner Circle club. |
56:57.88 | mikebledsoe | Substances. |
57:20.56 | mikebledsoe | I Feel like this whole episode's going to be an inner Circle Club show. Ah you know this is the commercial This is this is actually it. This is this one. We're giving away for free. This is the one you get for free from now on the pre ship. This. |
57:23.38 | Max Shank | Like I would be interested in like a little that's all it is This is just for the this is this is it. We're gonna air this and and to be fair, we might be Fucked. We might be fucked because this might get us. Ah. Extradited or what's the excommunicated because of all the stuff we've said. |
58:01.30 | mikebledsoe | Well this is why I want everyone to go and get a ah podcasting 2.0 app on your phone instead of Spotify because Spotify itunes. They could just take us off anytime they want because some sjw employee gets pissed off. |
58:24.12 | Max Shank | Oh my God can you imagine? Holy God I Think that's I think the pendulum is swinging back I think people are craving uncensored Oh I Love it. |
58:36.96 | mikebledsoe | So ah. I think so I think so but not but not the employees of Apple and Spotify. They're gonna be the last ones you know and Twitter but I it will shake out it but we need. But. |
59:00.98 | Max Shank | Yeah, we'll we'll see how it all shakes out I mean ah Seasons change Seasons change. |
59:19.58 | mikebledsoe | Decentralization is what will force it and so using a podcasting 2.0 app is part of the decentralization movement. So I like ah podverse myself. So if you just go and download podverses. Our shit will never be taken off of that. But. |
59:54.40 | Max Shank | Bu ya. |
59:59.20 | mikebledsoe | But Spotify has taken down None I think over 70000 podcast episodes in the last year yeah based on the content. No now they remove certain content. They even pull down some of Rogan's content |
01:00:12.90 | Max Shank | Whoa Really I thought they were cool. Not cool. Bummer I Do know that by the way if there was ever something that. Ah. |
01:00:35.00 | mikebledsoe | But not all of it. |
01:00:45.96 | Max Shank | Was valuable but let's be able to say words other this is a core value. This is a core value here. Okay folks this is this. It's rooted in reality look. It's fine talkytackytacky ever Blah Blah Blah blah. But as soon as someone comes in with the stick. |
01:00:53.40 | mikebledsoe | Come on. Well this goes back to what you were just saying. |
01:01:24.88 | Max Shank | You got to like fucking face that reality and so if we can't resolve our differences with words. There's only None choice left and that's physical violence I think everybody should be versed in physical and verbal violence. Not necessarily so they can be violent toward other people. But so they can recognize it number None and defend it number None |
01:02:07.86 | mikebledsoe | Well I like that I like to Define violence as the person who initiates force so I would I would say ah be well versed in debate because ah or or diplomacy right? So like to me. |
01:02:36.76 | Max Shank | Right. |
01:02:43.20 | mikebledsoe | War is just an extension of Diplomacy You know we were like oh diplomacy failed I'm like no this is just we're still being diplomatic. It's just a very violent diplomacy and so the same thing with the words is you know we start off with disagreement. We're trying to work it out things escalate We can't. |
01:03:06.64 | Max Shank | Interesting. |
01:03:17.88 | Max Shank | Great. |
01:03:20.60 | mikebledsoe | Find agreement in the words because people aren't You're right, People are not trained in the ability to listen to understand and then communicate the wall just goes up and you've talked about rhetorical fallacies before the wall goes up and then now it just becomes a mudsling contest. |
01:03:56.66 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
01:03:58.60 | mikebledsoe | That that will result if that doesn't get resolved in some way it will result in physical force. This is why the None amendment's important because if only yeah and and because if only 1 group of people has access to violence. |
01:04:13.74 | Max Shank | The None and the second those are almost all that's important. But. |
01:04:35.10 | Max Shank | Um, oof because then you go. |
01:04:37.56 | mikebledsoe | Then then we're in big trouble which takes me back to the point I was making hang on the point I was making which is like the when I look at when I look at ah government. It's hard to tell the difference between government and the mom because they're basically saying give us. A certain amount of your profits give us a certain amount of your of your hard work and we'll make sure that your shop doesn't get burnt down. You know we'll make sure your kid doesn't get beat up in the alley and they're basically saying the mob is basically saying. Overtly, they're saying we'll protect you from other people. Yeah, covertly, they're saying pretty much if you don't pay us None of our thugs are going to come get you which is which is the same thing that happens with the Us government is they say. |
01:05:50.12 | Max Shank | It's called a protection ring. It's called a protection ring. It's been around for a long time. |
01:06:09.36 | Max Shank | Ah, right? yeah. |
01:06:23.82 | mikebledsoe | We're going to protect you from all these outside guys and we got police officers stationed in there. We're gonna protect you as long as you. But if you if you don't give us a None of your life then we're actually gonna come fuck you up and so that's the price of the club. Yeah tough shit. There's like no way out. |
01:06:26.48 | Max Shank | Move. |
01:06:41.98 | Max Shank | Right? That's the price of the club and if you don't like it well tough shit This is the only club in town. It's the only club in town. It's like ah you know there is a thing about power companies. You know when you have a single. |
01:07:03.56 | mikebledsoe | And so well hang on. So so so so when I started when I recognized this this extremely similar ah view of government and the mom. |
01:07:16.98 | Max Shank | Go go ahead? yeah. |
01:07:38.98 | mikebledsoe | And I just started looking at all these governments around the world as just mobs that are controlling different geographical locations by by which um are mainly dissected based on Language. So if the language changes that's where the border begins. When there's a different language because you can't control people anymore because they can't understand you and so ah government control happens and within the borders of language and then you basically just have you just have. |
01:08:35.50 | Max Shank | K case that's http://dciendocappassosenorexplicka me and espanio poque non anddo. |
01:08:50.98 | mikebledsoe | Exactly. So. So so when you start looking at the world as or the government as just mobsters that are ruling really large pieces of geography and they're all. You know, jocking for position. Everything makes a lot more sense like the Russia Ukraine thing makes way more sense if you just think about it as a couple of mobsters that are that are jocking for position and the United States has done a good job of like. United States has done an incredible job of being very strategic in the way that it's done things. It hasn't it hasn't necessarily ah won with brute force for instance with the Ukraine thing is if you think about mobsters are running Ukraine right now right. Because anyone who has a government is being There's a mob and so those mobsters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well the good the good mobsters of Ukraine are um, just you know the the us government is lending them. What None |
01:10:50.92 | Max Shank | No, but those are the good mobs. We like them. They're the good mobs. |
01:11:18.20 | mikebledsoe | Billion dollars a month or something like that that they're never going to be able to pay back all right? So if only someone would come tell me what to think? So so then ah. |
01:11:22.22 | Max Shank | Oh my God I Wish someone would tell me who the good guys are and who the bad guys are if only someone would come and let me know what to believe about this. |
01:11:56.32 | mikebledsoe | So then you got so the way I see it is the us government has done an incredible job at buying the people of Ukraine as slaves and so because they're under the control of the Ukraine mob the ukraine mob how are they going to pay back that money they can't pay back that money. So basically they're going to be in debt to the us and the Ukraine is the breadbasket of europe so they produce the the lion's share of the wheat and other things necessary for making a lot of food products and in Europe and so now. The way I see it is the us government. Everyone is everyone is going. You know? Yes for Ukraine I'm like I'm like the us government just enslaved the people of Ukraine and you cheered them along the whole way and is like yeah we are like you know and that is um, that's 0 comment on what. Putin's doing you know whatever you call him more criminal. Whatever the guy's not a good guy. The guy's not a good guy but but people miss that. |
01:13:56.16 | Max Shank | It's it's about relationships. It's about relations. It's about relationships. It's about relationships and it's about trying to understand what the connection is between those relationships and in order to really get it. You got to reduce the number of parties down, you got to put the words like none and None out of your mind and just say what is the relationship between these different entities or individuals and what you're saying about the us specifically is. They recognize the power of both words and swords because words, okay, nothing scales better than words because it requires no material transfer. It requires only a transfer of pressure waves basically on some level and and. Transfer of ah it's just it scales way easier than actual bullets and actual swords and and if you have both then then you're like King of the castle. Basically so we have crazy weapons and we also have. |
01:15:38.90 | mikebledsoe | Ah, especially with the internet and everything just repeats easily. |
01:16:13.92 | Max Shank | Ah, lawyers and bankers and politicians that use words the same way that we're using Bullets and missiles and shit like that and we have we have ah stuff that's happening behind closed doors I mean Okay, let's talk about language again just for a second because. |
01:16:25.28 | mikebledsoe | Totally. |
01:16:50.54 | Max Shank | Want to talk about the word conspiracy conspiracy happening all the time people are meeting in secret to discuss plans all the time we would have to be totally naive if we don't think that's going on basically everywhere like every every group is meeting in secret. |
01:17:24.88 | mikebledsoe | The Cia is ah is a series of conspiracies. |
01:17:29.90 | Max Shank | We meet in secret we meet? yeah and of course they can't tell everybody everything I mean how fucking schizophrenic do you have to be your level 1 clearance your level 10 clearance I'm a level 10 cia wizard. So I know like 90% of the secrets but only 10% of this I mean it's. |
01:17:42.24 | mikebledsoe | So it's a conspiracy. Yeah. |
01:18:09.70 | Max Shank | It's Insane. So ah, kind of tying it back to how we use language and use ideas bringing it back to reality Once again, just doing something with material objects that exist somewhat. Independently of Language. You know how you interact with a tree or the ground of course you have the word tree and ground in your mind but your movement and your creative expression through physical materials. Even if you don't think you have a knack for it. It's very grounding experience. |
01:19:37.32 | mikebledsoe | Back to physical materials. Yeah, well they? um well what's interesting is my friend Jesse Elder he he's been studying the law extensively the last couple years and um. |
01:19:42.80 | Max Shank | Um, that that's what I tried to bring us on back because. |
01:20:17.64 | mikebledsoe | Basically looking at like the foundation of law you know, not you know what are all these little laws that are floating around that are getting passed all the time and changing. But you know yeah, but like what is the the sole basis and we go back in history. What is law. |
01:20:33.00 | Max Shank | To contract. It's It's just a contract that's it. |
01:20:52.36 | mikebledsoe | You know how does it operate so he did that and if you can figure out the fundamental principles of how these things work a lot of things get real simple so he did that and one one of the it's what. |
01:21:11.92 | Max Shank | It's conditional phrases right? I mean I'm not trying to diminish but isn't it like it's conditional. Phrases. It's consequences like the code of Hamurabi was a system of laws but they are very simple if you steal. A woman then you get your eye plucked out and you have to marry her some shit like that. Basically and if you're talking about arbitration which is a little different than law. Basically you are just dealing with an arbitrur like a judge who is deciding. |
01:21:45.68 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
01:22:20.32 | Max Shank | Who's right when they present like the clay tablets or something like can you imagine being. Ah, you know an arbiter back then but that's what they would do so that guy gets to decide but you have it's just enforcing contracts I think and every every relationship you have. |
01:22:22.72 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
01:22:43.74 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, that's what it comes down to. |
01:22:59.30 | Max Shank | Because a contract is oh gosh. It's ah it's a projected relationship. How about that using the words that we've been thinking about so a contract is a a relationship projection or a relative projection between one or more. |
01:23:17.86 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
01:23:31.28 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, you're gonna do these things I'm gonna do these things if we don't follow through then it breaks down. There's the consequences. |
01:23:39.44 | Max Shank | Entities yeah, and it works with yourself too. It works with yourself too. You make a you make a to do list. Maybe you sign at the bottom so I'm going to do this by the end of today you made a contract with yourself. You break the contract but you're also the judge here and you go like what happened. You know should I should I go to jail should I be full of shame or something like that should I punish myself. Do I get 50 lashes? Yeah, um, but I think we do that. |
01:24:15.46 | mikebledsoe | Should I punish myself emotional jail ah, ah so so jet so Jesse started digging digging into like the principles of law. And None of the results that I've seen in his life is. He's become extremely analog. Ah he is like he he sees the matrix I mean when you look at I mean the law is the matrix and so ah, everything that. |
01:24:55.98 | Max Shank | Totally. Ah. |
01:25:18.14 | Max Shank | It's a matrix. |
01:25:20.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it's a matrix I would I would say it's probably like based one of the base layers of the matrix and then um like the media sits on top of that. But um, he he's gone extremely analog like he's living. He's got twenty acres he's living out on it. He doesn't deal with crypto he. Ah, you know tries that work primarily in gold and silver and like getting he's getting very analog. He's using technology like he's installing a solar farm. He's doing. He's doing some things to harness technology but he's become very analog and. |
01:26:28.14 | Max Shank | Right. |
01:26:37.76 | mikebledsoe | What is valuable and so and what he values is analog and so in a world where right now so much of the value is digital and which is which is somewhat of a physical manifestation of something conceptual and so. |
01:26:49.52 | Max Shank | So true. |
01:27:14.22 | mikebledsoe | Because we're talking about Energy. Ah Bitcoin is just energy and because it requires energy from the sun whether it come in the form of solar oil. Whatever it is ah it it comes in the form of energy that's being exchanged so there is a physical component to it. But. Which is actually way more tangible than say the Us dollar which has ah which is primarily ruled by what whatever somebody thinks or a group of people think instead of being ruled by actual physical world laws and. |
01:28:15.72 | Max Shank | Um, that well money is its own like ah shared. It's actually a conspiracy so money is a human conspiracy just like language. |
01:28:33.40 | mikebledsoe | It's yeah well fiat currency would be yeah, say more. |
01:28:53.50 | Max Shank | That's that's it money is a conspiracy just like language I mean the fact that. |
01:28:55.70 | mikebledsoe | Some people some people understand I mean you're right? because there are very. There's a there is a handful of select people who make decisions in secret about the money supply. |
01:29:23.52 | Max Shank | Oh I mean just like it's not ah like a like okay so steak is not a human conspiracy like a dog still understands. What steak is it might know it by a different name like maybe steak for a dog is like. |
01:29:49.14 | mikebledsoe | Right. |
01:29:58.00 | Max Shank | Wolf Af or something like that I don't I don't know exactly what it's like for a dog but like money is and language are purely human conspiracies like we made all this stuff up because it's useful so they're useful lies. Essentially words are useful symbols so that we can. |
01:30:09.82 | mikebledsoe | I'll go ask my buddies dog. |
01:30:35.78 | Max Shank | Project these ideas ah into ah interchangeable parts Basically and that's what we're looking for with money is it's the ultimate interchangeable part because it's like ah an I O you that everybody agrees on it's a. Ah, accepted anywhere right? So it's money's like God It's if you believe in it it it is ah infinite Power. It's total potential and it's such a useful tool. There's no I can't. |
01:31:31.92 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
01:31:49.52 | Max Shank | It's so difficult for me to envision a society where we didn't have a way to exchange goods modularly. You know people talk about the fungibility or non-fungibility of token. Sometimes the fact that a dollar is a dollar is a dollar is a dollar is a dollar and I mean it did used to be backed by gold which was cool but let's not be too wistful over the glory days. But in any case. The fact that we have it and that we can change it and move it so quickly means that I can you know ah work under a bridge given hand jobs send it back to my scientist grandpa in Hungary and he can use that money. To build a nuclear fusion reactor or something like that right? That's that's incredible that you don't have to but based on my hungarian physicist ah grandfather I was thinking of him every time I gave a hand job under the bridge. |
01:33:40.52 | mikebledsoe | That's based on a true story folks. |
01:34:04.94 | Max Shank | I was just thinking this is going to be unlimited energy for everybody I'm not going to let you down pop pop anyway, ah, but but that's that's what I mean is like you you can turn hand jobs into cold fusion potentially and that is why money is cool. Ah, so we wouldn't have these computers and microphones the ubiquity of the cell phone like all this stuff was done because we were able to transfer this um potential of human action and it just it kind of reminds me of this funky idea I had. When I was none learning about like the coins and the cryptos and things like that and I thought it'd be cool to have something called like a handycoin that was ah just based off of the value that a person placed on like 1 hour of labor. |
01:35:50.38 | mikebledsoe | I Thought you were gonna say hand jobs but handicoin and a yeah. |
01:35:59.34 | Max Shank | No, not not not hand that would be even better. None coin equals one hj full stop. That's actually a better idea now that I think about anyway, but the whole idea was like you know you can put a posting on Craigslist or you can. Ah, go out to home depot and you can find like ah, a laborer who will do sometimes skilled sometimes unskilled. No no, no, no, but but but that's what that would be for is just for unskilled labor. Every hour is equal and so. |
01:36:43.94 | mikebledsoe | Um, are you are you saying that every hour is equal in value. No no okay. |
01:37:05.52 | mikebledsoe | Ah, so you create a caste system. |
01:37:12.36 | Max Shank | The value of that coin the value of that coin would be related to what someone is willing to do for an hour like 1 hour of unskilled labor. Ah, but at least it's tied to like. |
01:37:37.54 | mikebledsoe | Isn't that how just capitalism works. |
01:37:50.30 | Max Shank | The floor of ah one of of labor per hour right? It's like it's like it sets the floor which it is a value. Yeah, but it's so it's different. It's only correlated to ah. |
01:37:51.24 | mikebledsoe | So there's a minimum. |
01:38:02.88 | mikebledsoe | Sounds like a minimum wage. |
01:38:23.40 | Max Shank | Like someone actually doing real work I don't know like I said it's not a night. It's not an idea that I've taken over the finish line. Ah, but it's ah this idea that it needs to be tied to something and right now it's tied to our belief and that works. |
01:38:32.00 | mikebledsoe | I'm not sure I'm following. |
01:39:02.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I I think the problem that people have with money right now is that? Ah, there are a handful of people who are controlling how it flows so ah, not necessarily. |
01:39:03.26 | Max Shank | Weirdly enough it. It's not great, but it's okay like if. |
01:39:29.48 | Max Shank | Has that always been the case. |
01:39:39.64 | mikebledsoe | Not not to this degree I would say that. Um, so for instance when when the dollar is tied to gold money. Well I'm I'm talking about primarily money so like um so on 1 hand you have. |
01:39:52.24 | Max Shank | Are we talking about money or wealth or both and. |
01:40:16.00 | Max Shank | Um, like not. |
01:40:17.52 | mikebledsoe | And organization that decides. Ah how much the interest rates are going to be like what's what's the debt going to be worth and then you and then they also control the amount of money that's in the system. So those are like really big picture things. So so of when you're. |
01:40:49.44 | Max Shank | Oh yeah, big time. |
01:40:56.00 | mikebledsoe | When you're working with gold which you know all governments have inflated there even when it was gold. They did things like shave off the edges and you know there's ah until people figured it out and they lost faith in it. Yeah, they have so you can't fake it and so then um, so. |
01:41:14.14 | Max Shank | That's why those coins have ridges right? That's why they put the ridges on the coins. Ah. |
01:41:31.34 | mikebledsoe | The money supply and then the cost of debt is 2 major things that are that are employed big picture and then you have taxes so that I think the tax code is 176000 pages something like that. Ah, it might be a little bit maybe 76 maybe oh there. There's a. |
01:41:56.40 | Max Shank | I think maybe only 76 but but but but None like you that should be simple. |
01:42:09.52 | mikebledsoe | There's a ton of there's all, there's but there's basically all these rule the whole point in the tax code is to incentivize people under a certain type of behavior and it's it's. |
01:42:32.34 | Max Shank | And hide and hide what's actually happening and create as much of a smokescreen as possible for what's actually going on. |
01:42:43.48 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's they they want to they want to confuse like the majority of people need to be confused about what's going on because if the majority of people knew exactly what was going on there'd be riots in the streets. But the. |
01:43:07.80 | Max Shank | We would sell a lot more guillotines if that were the case Guillotine sales. That's that's what I'm actually getting into right now you know pendulums and government swing I think we're like perfect time to invest in guillot in Guillotines I think ah. |
01:43:28.34 | mikebledsoe | Well, how let's look at the tax code I got to do this search on the tax code. |
01:43:44.46 | Max Shank | You know you can sell your ultimate Orgasm formula and then I'm going to sell guillotines for the coming revolutions. |
01:43:53.44 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, we got figure I got to figure out how this tax code thing. Um all right. There's the myth of the 70000 page federal tax code. |
01:44:10.78 | Max Shank | It's really long. |
01:44:19.60 | Max Shank | It has to do with um like references to it because there are amendments to the tax code and there are cases that have modified how it's interpreted. |
01:44:38.52 | mikebledsoe | So the tax code has nearly tripled is it ah the tax code has nearly tripled and linked over the last thirty years um 70000 is not true. The tax code was only 20 so so it's it's. It's like triple of the None pages. So I think it's anyways thirty years ago is 2600? Oh no, none the tax code was only about 20. It's so funny and this blog says it's only None pages long. Um, yeah, but the point so. |
01:45:47.60 | Max Shank | Ah, it shouldn't even be 2600 words long fuckers. Let alone pages. |
01:45:50.40 | mikebledsoe | So um, yeah, so the so the so you've got a small group of people controlling the supply of the money you got a small group of people controlling the ah cost of the debt and then you have a small I think between. Ah, the senate the congress and all the the the the top government I think is around None and something like None something people so None something people are controlling 350000000 people. |
01:46:55.92 | Max Shank | It's leverage. |
01:47:07.30 | mikebledsoe | With a 2600 page tax code that incentivizes certain types of purchases disincentivizes other types of purchases. Um it ah it does it does really incentivize investing in real estate which is interesting because you can. |
01:47:21.92 | Max Shank | Right. |
01:47:35.14 | Max Shank | Well let's also look at this because it's not ah like those politicians are only like fabricating these ideas in their own mind. They're having people come in and say like hey we're this ah business that does one ah 0 every month. |
01:48:07.94 | mikebledsoe | These politicians don't write these laws. These laws are being brought to them. |
01:48:14.22 | Max Shank | And and and right and like hey Joe blow politician um, you know I was thinking. Ah you know you could you could really help us out. Ah, but you know I don't want you to work too hard. So I I went I went ahead and prepared the law for you. |
01:48:49.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, which the law the which the law is like 10000 pages long. There's no way who the fuck reads those things. No one reads that shit. |
01:48:52.82 | Max Shank | I went ahead and had my lawyers prepare this law for you and I I left this spot at the it's about 10000 pages I sent a copy to all your colleagues already I put a place here for you to sign your name at the bottom and I think it's a really really good idea for you to do this. |
01:49:27.48 | mikebledsoe | And and we'll we'll pay your son like $10000000 a year for advisory. |
01:49:32.46 | Max Shank | And because like power. Oh dude that guy is that guy is fucking set but you know Hidden hidden in that fucking quagmire of verbal violence in that fucking law that's been written is. How um competition and free market is prevented right? It's not like going to be awesome for everybody. Ah, it's gone too far but it's just because we have set up the rules of the game. |
01:50:24.98 | mikebledsoe | Yep. |
01:50:46.98 | Max Shank | To allow for too much of ah human error. Basically. |
01:50:49.88 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and so this is where um so we have to believe in the money I'm talking about belief which means you got to trust it right? And so we're at a in my lifetime we're at a record breaking low of trust in. |
01:51:10.16 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
01:51:28.32 | mikebledsoe | Government or the record breaking low and trust in media I think that in since the emergence of crypto there has been a trickling of people in droves that don't trust the money that that trust ah 1 of the things that web 3 |
01:51:59.64 | Max Shank | A. |
01:52:07.38 | mikebledsoe | Really ah has brought about is it requires less trust because you can't fuck with it like it doesn't matter how much somebody wants to change something. It's not humanly possible to change some of these rules and how these crypto. |
01:52:46.54 | Max Shank | Question for you is web 3 basically trying to use blockchain technology to store web data and provide server. Ah for websites. |
01:52:47.00 | mikebledsoe | Cryptos work. Yeah. |
01:53:13.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's that's that's one that's so it's a ledger well blockchain is just a really advanced ledger system that's automatically updated in decentralized web 3 in blockchain everyone in the same. |
01:53:23.66 | Max Shank | It's like decentralized web servers. |
01:53:35.48 | Max Shank | No, but web 3 I'm asking. Okay, I'm okay. |
01:53:51.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, the the way I understand it. It's it's just web 3 is kind of you say blockchain and people get a little confused and go web 3 and they go oh like you know web one was we can send information from computer to computer web two was we have html and everything's visually we have visual graphics and. And we can. There's clickable things and and then social media and then Web 3 is blockchain mother of all demos. |
01:54:39.84 | Max Shank | You should see the mother look up the mother of all demos sometime it shows what it's fucking great I think it was in the 60 s we were able to do like ah word documents and video chat and all kinds of shit in like the 60 s. |
01:55:14.74 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. |
01:55:19.48 | Max Shank | Called the mother of all demos um wild what was capable way back then and then that wasn't ubiquitous for people that wasn't common for people until forty years later something like that not nuts. |
01:55:41.10 | mikebledsoe | Right? Yeah, there's that's it's fascinating. Um. |
01:55:54.74 | Max Shank | So that's the leverage though is how fast we can communicate a message a lot of ah censorship speaking of like the None amendment kind of. |
01:56:06.90 | mikebledsoe | Well, there's also you not just how fast can you communicate a message but can it actually get through the noise. How loud how loud is your message and how well received is it because there's there's a there's a level of skill that's involved in being heard. |
01:56:21.14 | Max Shank | Yeah, well and. Absolutely no question I mean I think that's why stand-up comedy is one of those places where the rubber meets the road on free speech a little bit because if you're allowed to say anything as long as it's a joke. Then you can still at least get that message into people's minds without having ah it be controlled and that's ultimately what drives a population if if suddenly it was the law like so that's that's what's kind of interesting. You know I don't think it's good to have. Like a lot of power in the hands of a few people. It's back to leverage same thing as a hammer right? It's physical leverage in different ways. Um, but if they suddenly made it like the law to kill None puppy every week like let's just say that became the law people would not do that. |
01:58:27.84 | mikebledsoe | Well, it's got to be Ah, it's got to be done in small bits I mean all right? So this may actually happen. Yeah this this may actually happen right? So they So there's the media's put out the yeah, the media has put out some notices that. |
01:58:29.80 | Max Shank | Because the collective consciousness of whether that's okay or not. |
01:58:44.64 | Max Shank | You're like talking Boiling Boiling Frog right? Yeah yeah, the puppy killing oh shit, you know what you're right? The puppy flew. |
01:59:07.84 | mikebledsoe | You know some people are getting getting. Ah yeah, they're getting Well they're getting coronavirus they're It's like oh statistically we find that people who are around dogs more get coronavirus. Whatever. |
01:59:17.52 | Max Shank | Copy flu. |
01:59:27.40 | Max Shank | Oh God Oh don't don't even put this out. It's so easily could happen. You could get people to kill puppies as long as you said puppies increased the no fucking way. Wow. |
01:59:35.98 | mikebledsoe | So so here's the thing there are cities in China where they've gone in and killed all the dogs. Yeah, and so it's already happened and so um, which. |
02:00:04.80 | Max Shank | Heavy heavy. |
02:00:12.90 | mikebledsoe | When we think about that happening in China we go. Yeah that's totally believable because they're under some weird you know they're they're under some like heavy mind control. But I think that people I think americans give themselves way too much credit on how ah how little. They they think they they're being exposed and are subject to way less propaganda I would say it's less propagandized in the United States like we're not as susceptible because there's so much competing information where there's not as much competition for information there. But the propaganda is real. |
02:01:04.92 | Max Shank | Overt. It's just yeah, ah. |
02:01:26.32 | mikebledsoe | And so all you gotta do? It's been proven in the last two years all you gotta do is make people think that they're gonna die if they don't do this thing and they'll fucking. Do it. They'll strap 3 masks on they'll put an experimental vaccine in their body and they'll they'll ah make statements like. |
02:01:56.76 | Max Shank | Oh god we just got flagged. That's us we're done. He's in Texas go get him I was never here. Ah. |
02:02:01.54 | mikebledsoe | We should throw people. We're done off Spotify. Ah I'm in Texas I'm in Texas good luck. So yeah, um. |
02:02:34.34 | Max Shank | Oh my gosh. So it's all it really is it all comes down to force right? It all comes down to how much of an impact you can make with words or with stuff it all comes and it's leverage. |
02:02:52.90 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, because with the words you can still like if if ah, a small group of people can convince the large group of people that I'm a bad guy. They don't even have to get their hands dirty and so they use mind control to create violence. |
02:03:21.18 | Max Shank | Totally, you're separated from it. |
02:03:32.34 | mikebledsoe | And that's another thing we've witnessed big time in the last two years is they don't have to fucking create violence. They'll all they got to do is leverage some media to get people really hot and bothered then put. |
02:03:50.38 | Max Shank | Nobody wants to get their hands dirty. |
02:04:08.20 | mikebledsoe | Certain Spokes holes out there to to tell people how they should think what they should think and next thing you know things are burning. Yeah. |
02:04:18.56 | Max Shank | Hurt people hurt people right? hurt people hurt people. Ah and the more removed you are from the impact the easier it is like imagine if ah. Kind of like in game of thrones. The one who passes the sentence or the one who passes the sentence should carry it out like if you're gonna sentence a guide to death. Yeah, that was a stark thing. Yeah, well, it's cause it's like really warm weather and there's. |
02:05:02.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I mean that that was ah and ah that was a stark thing as the the northerners believed in that but you know you go to the South a bunch of soft pussies. |
02:05:32.40 | Max Shank | Ah titties and asses everywhere on the beach like I I don't blame them I get it like I I wouldn't be too like I wouldn't be too Stern with duty if the beach was like full of naked chicks and coconuts like what are we fighting for. |
02:05:34.12 | mikebledsoe | Teddy's everywhere I I. |
02:06:07.20 | Max Shank | There's food and titties everywhere. Ah but I think that idea of if you're going to be the one who passes the sentence you should carry it out the corollary or the inverse of that is if you can pass judgment. |
02:06:06.20 | mikebledsoe | Ah, ah. |
02:06:44.66 | Max Shank | And be totally removed from the action if you can tell a guy to tell another guy to tell another guy to tell another guy to take a drone to this other guy so that guy can drone this fucking stranger to him like he doesn't know who it is. He doesn't Care. You're not going to even feel that. But if imagine if you had to personally choke every person that you wanted to kill that would be a really different type of connection. |
02:07:27.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well, it's it's well it's this disconnection from responsibility on both ends, you've got the guy passing the sentence who's disconnected from the reality of what it takes to do that and then the person who's executing can just say. |
02:07:45.32 | Max Shank | Totally. |
02:08:03.82 | mikebledsoe | You know I'm just following orders but at the end of the day who but eat. |
02:08:09.54 | Max Shank | Ah, oh God there's a phrase I fuss just following all us now that's not fair. That's not fair that is not a cool thing to do what I just did because it's not like the germans. |
02:08:29.74 | mikebledsoe | A. |
02:08:38.36 | Max Shank | Are the only people who have done any horrible shit that is so unfair of me. The only reason that we use them as the poster boy. The only reason we use them as the poster boy is they just happen to target the group who is best at marketing and that's why that story is the most popular. |
02:08:48.26 | mikebledsoe | Oh I'll I'll say this. |
02:09:12.80 | mikebledsoe | Well now now you're now you're gonna now you're really stepping in it. |
02:09:16.64 | Max Shank | Of all the evil stories. Oh what Jews are bad at marketing mike. |
02:09:33.10 | mikebledsoe | Um, you're right? Um, yeah, there there's there's there's. |
02:09:37.26 | Max Shank | So some of my best friends in the world are Jews they're usually very smart. They're usually financially sound. They're usually pretty good at business I mean I hate to generalize. |
02:09:52.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's there's plenty of groups of people. Yeah, there's plenty of groups of people that have been exterminated and and more more mass that we're not nearly as good at marketing you right? Um, and but yeah, that's that's well. |
02:10:13.32 | Max Shank | Totally. |
02:10:25.92 | mikebledsoe | We have We have police officers and just ah, you know make it fair. We have police officers that are doing no knock warrants but are serving no knock warrants ah busting people for drugs that are not hurting anybody and and it harmed a fucking soul and. |
02:10:55.82 | Max Shank | Oh god. |
02:11:04.62 | mikebledsoe | There are really egregious things happening I mean your domain your your where you live is a sacred place. It is yeah 1 time out your house. But. |
02:11:09.68 | Max Shank | Totally. |
02:11:23.50 | Max Shank | I Live in fantasy Land I live in Fanta No No I mean literally like my house and my sense of the world is basically fantasy land because all this horrible Shit. We're talking about I Actually don't have to see most of it but there are slaves. In the world there. There are horrible things. There are that that's wild. How much did it cost I'm just kidding I'm just kidding. |
02:12:00.74 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I've seen I've seen I've seen Slavery Firsthand I I was shocked. Yeah oh I I What the slaves. Um. |
02:12:35.26 | Max Shank | I assume you would have gotten 1 Okay. |
02:12:39.18 | mikebledsoe | Now we we ended up being a rescue. |
02:12:51.20 | Max Shank | You mean I just thought of like you know you adopt a dog you like rescue a dog versus you buy 1 at the breeder. That's what I thought you went for some. |
02:13:04.00 | mikebledsoe | No, no, no, no, we we were. We were coming up I was in the navy we were coming up on what looked like a ship in distress and it was full of slaves being traded from Somalia to Yemen and so ah so that shit's that shit's. |
02:13:26.00 | Max Shank | Good God See That's what I'm talking about that stuff's happening all the time. Yeah, we're divorced from that reality and in some ways that's good because how much shit can you really pay attention to should I Really? okay. |
02:13:41.22 | mikebledsoe | Shit's happening all time. It's real. We just we just happen to come across them. Yeah. |
02:14:05.86 | Max Shank | Like I'm I'm not nice or bad I'm just whatever I am basically but should I really concern myself with with what's going on in like the Ivory coast right now or something like that when I could have like I mean. |
02:14:28.22 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
02:14:40.66 | Max Shank | I got None of room to improve my own life. The last thing I need to do is put my attention somewhere where I can't have any impact at all. That's true for so many of us. |
02:14:41.76 | mikebledsoe | Well. |
02:14:56.62 | mikebledsoe | But I agree with the the problem is is we people care so much about something that's happened in Ukraine but don't care about what's happening in other countries that well I would say in other countries and so what people aren't realizing is like look if you want to have like. |
02:15:17.60 | Max Shank | Um, in their own life in their own life. Oh yeah. |
02:15:36.94 | mikebledsoe | I've taken this on I like look I I do believe I I want to be exposed I want to be exposed to the reality of death I want to be exposed to the reality of the most atrocious things that are happening I want to know that those things are happening and so because I I think it's good I think it's good to. To be aware that these things are happening where people get in trouble is they aren't able to look at everything equally they're not able to look out and go oh there's these atrocities over here and there's atrocities over here. They're looking at the atrocities in Ukraine. They're not looking at the atrocities in and. |
02:16:15.54 | Max Shank | A. |
02:16:50.38 | mikebledsoe | In some places in Africa or the Middle East where we're bombing the shit out of people and and so if you're only focused on 1 atrocity and you're not willing to look at another. |
02:16:54.80 | Max Shank | Um, yes, totally. |
02:17:18.15 | mikebledsoe | You're not actually having an expanded view of reality you're being controlled by the media. |
02:17:22.83 | Max Shank | And you can't prioritize and you can't prioritize. It comes back to matter because if you think like whatever they say matters today matters most to you then you're just going to be spinning your wheels forever. You're like. Oh my god I'm just feeling so banged up about this thing. Oh this new thing I'm sad about and trannie's this and can we play sports and are you black like all this kind of stuff. It's like who gives a fuck like this is this this is the mind of a schizophrenic person. But if you're not connected. |
02:18:17.76 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, we have global schizophrenia. |
02:18:28.58 | Max Shank | Yeah, but how could you evaluate with how could you evaluate what matters most to you in any given moment if you're being fed this idea and buying it hook line and sinker that this new thing you just heard of suddenly matters the most and when you realize how many things you could care about you. I think you'll eventually come back to what can I do right now within my own life and then as far as like policy is concerned. There's only 2 things that matter and that's Authority who's in charge and jurisdiction when are they in charge. |
02:19:40.72 | mikebledsoe | Neither one of those things seem to be matter to me neither one of those things seem to be matter to me. |
02:19:42.25 | Max Shank | And that's it. What's that. But for policy that that's the only thing that does matter that's correct that is correct. That's correct hey look. |
02:19:56.72 | mikebledsoe | But it's not matter. It's just words. |
02:20:20.38 | Max Shank | Words can matter and words matter to you and they do matter to me but you can choose. |
02:20:30.86 | mikebledsoe | But they don't matter as much as matter I just want to get that point across. Yeah, they're just 1 step from matter I mean words are just metaphor for matter. So. |
02:20:39.24 | Max Shank | Certainly not how could they so anyway back Okay, fuck it I I go the other way I say words matter a lot I say words will fucking transform words are the pattern. |
02:21:03.14 | mikebledsoe | I. |
02:21:18.94 | Max Shank | That is going to change your matter. Okay, so when you when you well look. Let's take black lives matter for a example and I got something to say about this there. It is I said everything I can say. |
02:21:19.18 | mikebledsoe | I Agree it's great at manipulating matter. |
02:21:36.26 | mikebledsoe | Oh that's good 1 |
02:21:57.20 | Max Shank | Ah, no, no, but like all kidding aside this is this is like a ah weird racist idea like the only thing we should all want is for everybody to be treated Well man woman gay straight black white. Not purple people fuck those people but any anyone like normal colored we should treat the same so it it kind of like look I don't want to shit on anyone's cupcake either? Okay, but do we have like a national women's women's day or something like that. We we have these weird celebrations We have. |
02:22:46.94 | mikebledsoe | Um, I think you do. |
02:23:04.90 | Max Shank | Pride month and that's ah, that's a weird one like I I think being gay is really awesome. |
02:23:12.98 | mikebledsoe | Elon Elon Musk made a really good ah a controversial tweet. Basically he's pointing out how all these companies just all the sudden are are fucking leveraging and this this idea they don't give him a fuck. |
02:23:31.40 | Max Shank | Um, Oh yeah, well your I your identity is getting hijacked and ah worst off I mean look I think from my own direct Experience. Nothing has fucked me up as bad as my own pride. So. So so so it's like basically like volunteering to ruin someone's life for a whole month. It's like hey you know that deadly sin that we're all desperately trying to avoid. We think? ah. You would enjoy a whole month straight of it. No homosexuality is awesome. It looks really fun. In fact, I've never seen anyone who looked like they were having a better time than a couple of gay guys at a gay party right? Ah, that's that's. |
02:24:51.30 | mikebledsoe | He's talking about pride folks not homosexuality. |
02:25:13.28 | mikebledsoe | I agree I I'm I'm jealous I'm jealous. |
02:25:24.40 | Max Shank | Fully and that's fully uninhibited and I think ah you know the old school gays and trannies. They would not want to control language about what's going on like I I like the the like old school trannies. From like the 70 s and eighty s who were like really buff black dudes and who were like god damn I look fine and address and but but that's the old school type what I'm saying is these these bitches were wise you know and they were tough and if someone. |
02:26:07.82 | mikebledsoe | They're still around I've been I've been to the club. Yeah. |
02:26:32.12 | Max Shank | Was like you're not a real woman. They would be like suck my dick and then they would be like you know, brassy and tough and they would risk their lives to go dance in like ah a tranny Speakeay and I I respect that but this whole like you gotta. You got to call me this or you got to call me that or I'm going to call dad and they're going to hit you with a stick. It's like that sucks we need. We need these old school trannies to talk some sense into them about free speech because there's no reason that that should be but there's no reason that there. |
02:27:31.94 | mikebledsoe | Now now we're getting kicked off Spotify. Ah. |
02:27:47.34 | Max Shank | Okay, like those people also look fun like I think that's great, but this whole idea that we should treat any person different because of how they want to like mutilate their body or enhance it like I mean fake fake boobs Totally fine cut your dick off not fine I think they're both fine. |
02:28:10.22 | mikebledsoe | Well well. |
02:28:22.56 | mikebledsoe | I I think. |
02:28:26.82 | Max Shank | Personally, but I think any time you want to control the language of other people you have a mental disorder. Basically. |
02:28:39.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and and you're it is someone trying to force other people to participate in their identity and that is that's insane like was it a. |
02:28:59.20 | Max Shank | Right? That's like forcing someone to come to your party hey hey I'm throwing a party Friday I don't want to go. You're coming. |
02:29:18.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, you're racist if you don't come and I'm gonna call your boss and they're gonna fire you. |
02:29:32.68 | Max Shank | Ah, ah oh God pride go before a fall pride Pride's pride is not something that you really want to like emphasize in your life I think being open being able to express yourself. |
02:29:36.64 | mikebledsoe | It's like no I was well from time for myself. |
02:29:46.88 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
02:30:10.18 | Max Shank | Very good. It's just you know these words do influence our matter quite a lot. So this idea. Ah this idea that we yeah okay ah I don't know like I'm I'm so skeptical about joining groups. Anyway. |
02:30:18.34 | mikebledsoe | Bring here, bring it back up mic up. It keeps falling. |
02:30:46.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
02:30:48.82 | Max Shank | As you know, but like you lose you lose so much of ah that groundedness and reality when you're like I'm on team ah Republican or I'm on Team Trans or I'm on team Black I mean I think if I could be on team black that would be pretty cool though. In in my life. Black people were much cooler better at dancing I feel like I would get a lot of street cred if I was on team black actually as as a white guy but I don't think people should be ah I don't know forced to whatever other people's ah. |
02:31:39.64 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. |
02:31:59.42 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah I mean I think we you and I both just believe people should leave each other alone and some people are just nosy and and controlling. Yeah. |
02:32:04.18 | Max Shank | Lives. |
02:32:16.30 | Max Shank | Um, what a novel concept what a novel concept. So what are we trying to do here mike has this been our None secret episode is that what ah has gone on here. |
02:32:35.00 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, so this is ah you just got a taste of what happens during most pre-shows. Ah, although we went a little. |
02:32:59.70 | Max Shank | Max and Mike Raw |
02:33:03.86 | mikebledsoe | Um, that's definitely a porno. Um well. |
02:33:15.44 | Max Shank | Ah, at least we already have 1 filmed hey oh. |
02:33:25.62 | mikebledsoe | Ah, so um, say yeah, we're playing around with the idea. Maybe we'll do ah we tend to talk about 20 minutes we tend to talk about for about 20 minutes before we do shows and yeah ill I'll gonna talk to my tech team and see what. |
02:33:41.88 | Max Shank | We'll do a little pre-show. |
02:34:03.62 | mikebledsoe | And marketing teams see what they think cause I can't do anything would like some feedback from their audience. What I'm thinking right? now is maybe a pay what you want ah membership to get yeah, come get in the club hear The pre-show get some of the raw conversations that ah. |
02:34:09.62 | Max Shank | Let's get some feedback from the audience though too Huh I Want to. I Like it to join the club. |
02:34:38.52 | Max Shank | Ah. |
02:34:40.46 | mikebledsoe | Come about and also witness the how we come up with the idea of what we're gonna do for the show that day So there's there's a lot. There's so many things that we discussed before the show starts that I wish was recorded that doesn't necessarily fall in line with the rest of the show but is still extremely valuable. |
02:34:50.20 | Max Shank | Um, I mean we could even do like a. Yeah, yeah, it'd be cool to give people a chance to participate too like maybe they could ah it depends like we could. Ah. Plug them into the call we could do like a live tweeting thing for them or like a little. Oh. No I mean we can just like um, get them involved. Ah. |
02:35:36.12 | mikebledsoe | I Don't think we can live stream out of our current system. |
02:35:57.38 | mikebledsoe | How would you like to be involved. That's it showing the name. Maybe we could do it. We could do it like a telegram group. We could do I don't fucking know and I say I'm gonna talk to my tech my tech and marketing team are good to talk to because I could tell them what we and then they. |
02:36:06.68 | Max Shank | Yeah, how would you like to be involved That's ah that's a good question like what would you like us to cover. Yeah I like these ah more human interactions. |
02:36:36.32 | mikebledsoe | Um, like hey there's what we're thinking about doing and they'll come back and say oh you should you could set it up like this this and this these guys look I'm 40 these guys are in their 30 s early 30 s they. |
02:36:40.28 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
02:36:51.24 | Max Shank | Age card look at that folks. He's trying to get clout by look how old I am look how fucking old I am what a thing to brag about you son of a bitch. |
02:37:07.26 | mikebledsoe | Oh humble brag Humble brack. No, but the the ah the all these guy I now I don't know that's that's not what I'm saying at all is I don't keep up with the shit that's popular right now I don't know what technology is out there. |
02:37:24.30 | Max Shank | I'm so old that I got smarter than you. |
02:37:35.80 | Max Shank | Um, that's. |
02:37:45.48 | mikebledsoe | Um, like I want to do this and then they tell me a dozen ways to do it some of which I are like Wow you can do that now. So that's why it's help talk to them now. |
02:37:58.34 | Max Shank | Yeah, let's talk about widgets next time, Let's talk about our favorite ah tech stuff. |
02:38:11.60 | mikebledsoe | We never. We never talk about the thing in the next show that we think we might talk about in the previous show I think so all right? we end it there give us your feedback if you want to reach me directly just hit me up on Instagram Mike Underscore Bloodso and now. |
02:38:23.12 | Max Shank | I Think we're going to talk about things on the next show it' going to happen. |
02:38:50.70 | mikebledsoe | And then you want them to do any hoops you want people to jump through max. |
02:38:56.42 | Max Shank | Ah, well thanks for tuning in my name is max shank. You can find me at http://maxshank.com and I hope you have a lovely rest of your day. |
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