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| 00:00.00 | mikebledsoe | Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're gonna be talking about how to make better decisions using using vision values and boundaries and I'll tell you what we've already gotten into some interesting conversation before we fired up the mics and that's why we decided we need to just get this show started right now because we were getting. Often to some interesting weeds because we'll probably talk about genetics as well. How you doing max. |
| 00:25.52 | Max Shank | I'm doing good man I'm excited to talk about this I think that the more wealth you get the more time you can spend and the less overall decisions. You must make. Ah, investing is a good example of that where you have a really high amount of Leverage. So Every decision is very significant and the precision. Ah and accuracy of those decisions is amplified because a small error one way or the other can really. Increase the cost and reduce the benefit. So all the way from deciding what to pull out of the fridge to eat and deciding which company to invest to and which partner to Choose. It's the most important thing ever and a lot of things influence your decision making. |
| 01:15.34 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, one of the things that brought this up for me is I I have this whole. Ah I have a lot of momentum in my life to travel and there's a lot of events and ah. I I started to notice that I desire to attend less and less things and spend more time at home and really honing in on what's really important and what's not important in getting into these conversations with my girlfriend and really noticing you know. You know if you have no vision and you're trying to make decisions then you're really doomed to the momentum of the past you're not gonna create anything new Consciously. So well, there's 2 factors here. You're you're gonna repeat the past and. And the patterns of the past. But also you're way more susceptible to other people's visions. So if somebody else is intentionally creating a vision and you're being impacted by that and you've created no vision whatsoever for yourself then you you probably won't even notice. That you they you may wonder how did I get to this place in my life. Well you it was a mixture of repeating your your historical patterns and the historical patterns of others and the intentional vision of others as well. |
| 02:45.94 | Max Shank | It doesn't sound good. That's for sure. ah ah I totally relate on the traveling thing as you know I traveled like an absolute maniac for many years |
| 02:51.43 | mikebledsoe | Ah, don't be a sucker. |
| 03:04.96 | Max Shank | I think I was like ah like a street cred Conquistador I would go to different cities around the world and I would teach the Holy Gospel of whatever I knew at the time and pretend like it was this. Massive Authority and people responded favorably to that which was so weird I can't I can't explain what that shift was like because I rose up so fast from being a personal trainer. Going to attend certifications to being only a couple years older and teaching those certifications and I was just trying to grab as much alphaness and street cred and want people to love Me. Maybe even Adoration I think. |
| 03:58.82 | mikebledsoe | I got there I think. |
| 04:00.43 | Max Shank | And right and that was what I saw as the best model the people who were the best in health and fitness industry were the ones who wrote the books and flew around the world teaching seminars and. I've always been one to ah hit the eject button really fast as soon as the appropriate catalyst is there so I went from 20 to 30 trips a year flying and teaching all over to 0 within one weekend. Just chose I was like wow I don't think I actually like this I just want people to like me more than other people. How greedy does that sound I want people to like me way more than other people. So I'm going to keep sacrificing whatever i. Actually want to do and might have fun with and might be ah sustainable or I can you know keep doing this thing where I I just hope people will love me if I do it good enough. |
| 05:11.55 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, oh what's your relationship to compliments. |
| 05:16.64 | Max Shank | Ah I would have to get one first but ah I would imagine if someone did give me a compliment I would deflect it I would deflect it humorously. |
| 05:27.62 | mikebledsoe | Max you're you're so you not. So would you say maybe you you started getting compliments and you you didn't like it. |
| 05:38.27 | Max Shank | Um I started feeling exposed ah like people would just it was so weird, almost everywhere I go people would recognize me like on the street or in a store and that was a. |
| 05:42.20 | mikebledsoe | Ah, by right? You're getting more attention and you felt exposed. |
| 05:53.95 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 05:58.50 | Max Shank | Was a total mind fuck and I'm I'm like in the big scheme of things compared to Bill Murray or something like that I'm nobody but just being recognized when you think you're a stranger in a crowd it. It was a total mind fuck I mean I didn't. |
| 06:16.23 | mikebledsoe | You're not yes. |
| 06:17.10 | Max Shank | It wasn't like harmful that part but I had to fortunately I had the luxury to reevaluate how I wanted to live my life and I realized I I didn't want to be hustling around on planes and in and out of hotels and so. |
| 06:33.57 | mikebledsoe | So yeah, what? what? ah was can you think of what what created that because usually there's sometime of real a birthday. |
| 06:36.18 | Max Shank | The boundary came up really fast and I've. |
| 06:43.49 | Max Shank | Is Birth Birth is birthday I do some good introspection around birthdays and I I went to the Bahamas with a good friend of mine and it was no I didn't work at all. And it was that was rare and I just hung out on the beach and I ran around and played games and went on water slides I was like wow this is this is really fun and it's not because ah you know later I'll get more if I do a good job. |
| 07:19.33 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 07:22.32 | Max Shank | It was just fun. Yeah, so. |
| 07:28.69 | Max Shank | You know what catalyst means something that causes or accelerates a reaction without changing and I thought that was really I just looked this up the other day. |
| 07:32.83 | mikebledsoe | No no. |
| 07:42.88 | mikebledsoe | Would that be like ah an enzyme that that would would cause the change but maintains its own attributes. Interesting. |
| 07:46.54 | Max Shank | Exactly. Yeah, and I had never known that before and it was such a cool thing because I realized that's what I would Ah, that's how I would like to do things ah from ah. I would say from a teaching perspective but that's not really the full story because actually one of the best things about teaching is that you do ah become changed quite a lot from the different variety of students that you interact with yeah. |
| 08:20.16 | mikebledsoe | But I've learned more teaching never did from sitting in a room. Yeah. |
| 08:25.63 | Max Shank | So it so it doesn't really make sense that way but I definitely think the concept of a catalyst is really cool. It's like you don't have to give some of yourself and diminish yourself so that you can create that reaction again. |
| 08:27.99 | mikebledsoe | I think I think being a. |
| 08:35.23 | mikebledsoe | Totally, there's ah, there's a conversation we have in my strong coach curriculum early on which is creating distinctions so you have you have definitions of words but you also have distinctions and that means that. And the reason we have those is because in in our society people tend to collapse the definitions of 2 words because they don't actually know the definitions and they don't create a distinction between the two and we talk about service and sacrifice and how that's a very common collapse distinction in the. |
| 08:59.46 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 09:09.83 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 09:13.33 | mikebledsoe | Entrepreneurial world. Um, it's it's ah if you look at the different cat The you know the the Us caste system. You know we got our different classes of people and so the the blue collar class which is what. |
| 09:29.31 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 09:31.88 | mikebledsoe | But I came from is the service and sacrifice are almost sine synonymous right? and they ah they get those words are interchanged. You know part of that's part of that's a. |
| 09:37.77 | Max Shank | And. |
| 09:51.30 | mikebledsoe | Probably due to christianity and you know Jesus Christ as as the servant that made the greatest sacrifice I imagine that's put together. Also, if also if. |
| 09:53.61 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 10:02.52 | Max Shank | It's a more compelling story. It's a more compelling So story if you sacrifice yourself. Um I don't think it's a healthy attitude. But I think a lot of people are under the impression that if you are wounded in some way in the service of others. Then you get a little bit more street cred and it it does make a more compelling story. |
| 10:23.56 | mikebledsoe | There's there's it's it's noble and you should be proud and that's yeah, so it this what I notice after working you know digging around at a bunch of people's minds. |
| 10:27.93 | Max Shank | A martyr. |
| 10:39.52 | mikebledsoe | And I've worked with people who ah, most of the people I've worked with come from a blue collar background or their parents were in some way and a handful of people who grew up in homes where you know, ah the relationship to money was very different. The the way they lived. Their lives were very different things were. |
| 10:57.89 | Max Shank | A. |
| 10:57.93 | mikebledsoe | Little easier and they don't have that collapse distinction. They they go Oh this is service and the sacrifice these are different things I've I've taught people this before and in a room and some people are like yeah duh. It's like oh tell me about how you grew up. Okay, oh someone who's. |
| 11:08.19 | Max Shank | Man. |
| 11:14.54 | Max Shank | No. |
| 11:17.36 | mikebledsoe | Who goes Oh my God that was a huge exercise for me. It's like oh how did you grow up interesting here and so also if you're if you're somebody who's in power. So say you're you're running a country or something like that if you can convince the lower class people that. Must sacrifice in order to be of service and if you're not being of service then you're a leech on society and you don't feel good about yourself If You're not sacrificing So It's a really good story to tell in order to get people to enlist in the military.. It's a really good story to tell. |
| 11:42.93 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 11:55.87 | mikebledsoe | People to sign up for all sorts of jobs where you may lose your life or a limb or is incredibly demanding of your time and energy. And yeah, it's the more I've dug into this the more. Disgusting. It seems in some ways. Um, if it's being used intentionally now if it's if this is just like the unintentional use of language over time and so on and so Forth. Then you know there's you know there's there's intentional use of it. |
| 12:15.73 | Max Shank | It is. |
| 12:24.80 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 12:32.90 | mikebledsoe | Which would be considered Evil There's the the ignorance. Maybe they're just being ignorant is ignorant use of it. Which means that you know ignorance and laziness go hand in hand because Ignorance is ah the activity of ignoring. So The the. Information is present but you choose to ignore it because it's uncomfortable and lazy people tend to avoid discomfort and then and then you yeah I mean well well, there's. |
| 12:52.93 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 13:03.87 | Max Shank | Doesn't everybody devoid Avoid discomfort though I mean I don't want people to have a complex if they feel lazy Lazy is the natural state lazy and ignorant are the instinctual states which I think we can talk about more later. |
| 13:10.96 | mikebledsoe | Well, there's well, there's well, there's I agree. Totally totally totally. So then you have so you have intentional. You have ignorant and then and then you have just nation. |
| 13:20.95 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 13:28.65 | mikebledsoe | Which means that you just have not been exposed to the information at all and so I like that create distinctions between nations and or nasance and and ignorance because ignorance is you've been presented with the information and you've ignored it. So. |
| 13:31.73 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 13:44.37 | Max Shank | Um, that's so interesting I bet a lot of people think of ignorant as they don't know which is different than ignore and like you're ignoring as an active choice I I think that's ah, really interesting. You bring that up. |
| 13:46.62 | mikebledsoe | Of. Yeah, yeah, or it. Yeah. Exactly. |
| 14:04.37 | Max Shank | I bet because I used to use ignorant that way too like oh I was ignorant like I didn't know but it's more that I knew and ignored it that is a huge shift in that word. Huge. |
| 14:08.77 | mikebledsoe | Well here's the other thing is ah huge huge difference and a lot of people are ignoring things that they'll claim their nation to like oh I just didn't know it's like no that that was sitting there. You know there was. |
| 14:21.25 | Max Shank | Got it I didn't know. Yeah. |
| 14:28.20 | mikebledsoe | So like it's like walking into a room and there's ah, there's an elephant in the corner and you're for some reason you just don't notice it. It's like no it. It's been sitting there. Yeah talking about the elephant in the room right? that some people are surprised. Yeah, people are surprised by it. |
| 14:37.37 | Max Shank | Right? And how do you choose? What information is significant because you have to yeah so you might be ignorant with the best of intentions right? thinking? Oh that's not important right? that's. |
| 14:48.50 | mikebledsoe | For instance, the last the last two years with the best of intentions. |
| 14:56.37 | Max Shank | Where you and I ah like we come across that word evil and so my guess is there are lots of people in the world. Ah, who are real busybodies and they think that if they can just kill 1000000000 they'll save the other 6000000000 or some some kind of fraction. |
| 14:59.19 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 15:15.12 | Max Shank | Like that I don't know look that seems and here's the thing here's that no, we'll just kill. Ah, one of them like an unceremonious random one because if you truly believe if you have the power and you truly believe. |
| 15:15.48 | mikebledsoe | Will we'll kill the 6 bad ones or the one bat about 1000000000 bad people. |
| 15:34.82 | Max Shank | That the world is totally fucked unless you do something you're going to feel a lot of pain all day every day until you resolve that problem and if you have in your mind only a couple choices you'll say do I Let all. |
| 15:52.67 | mikebledsoe | And I got I got multiple phone I got multiple phone calls. Let me let me pause this I got a potential emergency. |
| 15:53.29 | Max Shank | The whole planet die or do I kill 1000000000 people |
| 16:00.50 | Max Shank | Okay, all right? So basically we have this kind of a situation. We have people who are thinking that they must save the world because they really believe the world or all of humanity itself will be destroyed. They have the power to enact the changes that they think will make that difference and they are faced with a choice of let's say kill 1000000000 to save the other six I can understand why they would a do it and b. Not think themselves. Evil. |
| 16:39.82 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, this ah have you ever watched cloud atlas with Tom Hanks oh man 1 of my favorite movies of all time. Yeah, it's a long one. It's like three and half hours it it didn't get a lot of attention when it came out because. |
| 16:45.75 | Max Shank | No oh really, that's cool. Ah. |
| 16:59.90 | mikebledsoe | It's deeply philosophical and you have to pay attention to what's going on for a long period of time so you have to have an attention span which means that you know almost nobody saw it and ah yeah. Yeah there's just a part in the movie where it's it's all about like people controlling other groups of people and oppressing other people and it was highlighting and it's and it's many different timelines. It's like something that was happening five hundred years ago and something else that was happening. |
| 17:24.78 | Max Shank | That's human culture in a nutshell. |
| 17:33.65 | Max Shank | The. |
| 17:36.50 | mikebledsoe | You know something was happening in the 70 s something was happening currently. There's some and then it's the it's 300 years in the future and there's these different timelines that are all over like the the energy and the patterns were overlapping and basically there was a ah. |
| 17:41.55 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 17:55.28 | mikebledsoe | Period of time where they were looking at when there were slaves there was you know white people were enslaving black people and all that and you know there's a a part in the movie where you know it's like hey we should probably stop this and then but leading up to that The guys that believed him is like oh it's our it's our divine purpose. You know. |
| 18:13.30 | Max Shank | Oh yeah. |
| 18:14.81 | mikebledsoe | God has told us to go and conquer these people and the same thing happened when you know people come to America and you know it's like we're gonna take this land. It's like yeah, there's there's some brown people here. But you know we we could probably just take this land. You know there's they're paid for the greater. Good. |
| 18:21.57 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 18:30.10 | Max Shank | For the greater good by the grace of God for the greater good by the grace of God here we are give us your stuff God God Thanks you for your donation. It's like would you pit. |
| 18:34.57 | mikebledsoe | For the greater. Good. Yeah yeah, now now it's the greater good by the grace of science. You know it's the same thing. Yeah, yeah, and so. |
| 18:49.73 | Max Shank | Ah, Mercenaries against Missionaries That's the one I think of the the missionaries will be biting the heads off biting the faces off of the mercenaries to sacrifice to the blood god. |
| 18:53.91 | mikebledsoe | Ah. |
| 19:04.83 | Max Shank | All the mercenaries are high-tailing it out of there because the pay is just not good enough. |
| 19:10.47 | mikebledsoe | Ah, yeah, so you you're talking about. Yeah these people are bought in and I think that a lot of people like if you look at the media. For instance I Think most of these quote unquote journalists are are completely bought in that. |
| 19:11.52 | Max Shank | So you get these true believers. Any price. |
| 19:28.41 | mikebledsoe | What they're doing is for the greater good I saw a clip was I saw a clip of ah you know everyone's art pissed off about not everyone just just people on the left are pissed off about Elon Musk offering to buy Twitter did you hear about this. Are you following it all. |
| 19:28.74 | Max Shank | Absolutely. |
| 19:37.50 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 19:43.67 | Max Shank | Um, I'm actually still really upset about the George Floyd thing I haven't moved on since that 1 news point I haven't really made up my mind about it yet. So I can't move on to the any new any news points. |
| 19:54.13 | mikebledsoe | Oh you're stuck here have you watched any Tv since then. Okay, so so Elon Musk ah he purchases 9% of Twitter you know it's a public. |
| 20:00.62 | Max Shank | No no I'm just still trying to work out this mystery. |
| 20:09.15 | Max Shank | I did hear about it by the way I was just making a joke then he offers to buy the whole thing. |
| 20:12.93 | mikebledsoe | Okay, well fill people in he he purchases 9% of Twitter and well then and then ah you know if he owns 15 % 15% he can you know actually make some demands like he his voice must be hurt. So they offer him a board position like oh why don't you join the board and if you're on the board you can make suggestions but you can't make demands and but you can't own more than fifteen fourteen point nine five of the stocks and you go and he goes. |
| 20:44.13 | Max Shank | Right? As a board member. |
| 20:49.13 | mikebledsoe | I don't want to be a board member then and then he turns around offers $43000000000 for the entire company which is more than the value of the company that no one else is gonna purchase it for that amount and. |
| 20:52.74 | Max Shank | Incredible. |
| 20:58.77 | Max Shank | It it. It has to be Ah, it's really interesting situation because he um rightly understands that that is the the lead horse. On the winner take all of small instant public messages. |
| 21:15.62 | mikebledsoe | Yes, yeah, it's it's the it's you know I on I'm on. Yeah um. |
| 21:20.42 | Max Shank | They banned the president they they took they took free speech away from the president. That's supposed to be everybody gets free speech but because they became the platform. A new platform above the old platform of pen and paper and people talking to each other. They put a blanket of this new platform over everything and they're like this is where we talk now this is where the point gets across really quickly. Ah, it's not that different than. |
| 21:47.13 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 21:55.80 | Max Shank | These guys trying to buy newspapers. It's just a similar play to control the flow of information. It's basic. It's basic war out there and that's nature. Yeah conflict baby. |
| 22:03.91 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, oh it's definitely war. Yeah so ah, people a lot of people I was reading something this morning. It's pretty interesting is like it's like you know, yeah, a lot of people. There's primarily the left for. The political left people were saying they were they were defending Twitter as a private privately owned company that can do whatever it wants so censorship is okay, Elon Musk wants to buy it then they start freaking out that he's going to let everyone say whatever they want and. |
| 22:29.73 | Max Shank | Big. |
| 22:39.41 | mikebledsoe | That something that the government needs to step in and do something about Elon Musk buying Twitter it's like they want their cake and eat it too. They can't there's there's ah there's a foundational lack of fund of of a principle because it's it's whatever, whatever serves their. |
| 22:41.18 | Max Shank | The. |
| 22:52.21 | Max Shank | Um, it's pure Lizard man. Yeah. |
| 22:59.28 | mikebledsoe | Whatever they want in the moment they'll leverage. Whatever it takes to get there. The means justify the ends and. |
| 23:03.21 | Max Shank | Their identity is the tribe So whatever helps the tribe justifies the means basically it doesn't matter what it is as long as it's for the good of our tribe and we're good and those other guys way over there. They're bad. So if you censor the bad guys. |
| 23:09.72 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 23:22.48 | Max Shank | It's good. But if you censor nobody. It's bad by that very twisted logic. |
| 23:24.17 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, because yeah, very interesting. Yeah, so for the greater good. Um, you know I I do find it interesting that ah people really I mean I believe in Elon must having. Good intentions over somebody in government because he is actually contributing to society by his his behavior instead of just trying to take and redistribute. Um, so yeah, same. |
| 23:44.10 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 23:53.00 | Max Shank | On principle I like pie Makers more than pie slicers. Yeah, what do you? What do you bring into the table I think it's ah the difference between offers and orders. That's where the line is. |
| 24:01.52 | mikebledsoe | So How how did I. A a. |
| 24:11.13 | Max Shank | Line between an offer and an order where an order means do this or you are going to be punished with the stick or a fine or whatever and an offer is do this come on. You know you want to do this, do it. It'll be really good for you and. |
| 24:25.53 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 24:28.80 | Max Shank | You can get as persuasive as you want to get but there's no, there's no threat of direct violence or attack on your person with an offer. That's why I like that. |
| 24:38.31 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I saw this mean this morning I reposted on my Instagram it's got ah it's got 4 different things and it says what makes sex not rape consent choice consent. |
| 24:49.12 | Max Shank | Choice. Yeah yeah. |
| 24:55.77 | mikebledsoe | What makes a job not slavery consent. What makes a transaction not robbery consent. What makes taxation not theft magical fairy dust. |
| 24:58.57 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 25:04.20 | Max Shank | Um, yep. |
| 25:11.94 | Max Shank | Ah, and I knew we were going there. |
| 25:15.31 | mikebledsoe | Well today's tax day. So ah I always kept I have to post so taxing every every what's the eighteenth. But ah, ah, they made today the tax day since Friday was the fifteenth. |
| 25:17.71 | Max Shank | Yeah, well people just think that they're so clever. |
| 25:28.57 | Max Shank | It takes a special kind of person to think that they know best not only for themselves. But for everybody else and it takes an even more special kind of person to be unwilling to try to sell people on the idea that they have and instead force it upon them violently. |
| 25:45.52 | mikebledsoe | For your own good. You're greater. Well I think I think it it's It's a slippery. It's slippery because people I think that's a much easier argument to make is if I say Max I Know what's good for you. |
| 25:46.50 | Max Shank | But it's like it's like you don't believe in the product man. |
| 26:04.55 | mikebledsoe | That's very arguable. It's like I don't know if you know my entire situation. You don't you know you don't know about this. |
| 26:07.40 | Max Shank | Yeah, there are definitely situations where you might know better for me than me, no question. It's just we won't know when that is we just won't know when that is. |
| 26:14.67 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, some situations? Yeah, but but then what's good for the greater good is an extrapolation of that that I know what's good for you and then it becomes homogenized too. It's like. I know it's good for most of the people. So we're gonna do this and it's like yeah, it's 1 per 1 person has you know people give 1 person that power and it's it's really insane. |
| 26:47.67 | Max Shank | It's exactly about that control because the whole purpose of groups in the first place is chaos reduction or at least reducing the negative impact of chaos on the collective. So whether it's ah, a group of ah chimps or a nation state of some kind the the concept or the idea of it in the first place is to reduce the chaos. So homogenization is the logical. Ah. Endpoint of that where everybody's exactly the same. Ah totally fungible, interchangeable. We have. We have one billion we have 1000000000 persons they do this and this and this and they do this at this time and this at this time and this at this time. |
| 27:32.36 | mikebledsoe | You're just a number folks. |
| 27:41.15 | Max Shank | And we always know where exactly everybody is just like ah a dairy farm with a bunch of chipped animals. So. |
| 27:45.10 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and I think up until this point the Homogenation um Homogenation homogenization. Thank you? Ah, it has been the most efficient way of creating order out of chaos or disorder. |
| 27:54.21 | Max Shank | Homogenization. |
| 28:01.56 | Max Shank | By definition. It is by definition. Yeah. |
| 28:04.78 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, um, but then if if we look at the Homogen is it is a nation you have to tell me this work ah of chickens right? They've got ah I learned about this this past week and I was talking to some farmers and that's what I do. |
| 28:11.25 | Max Shank | Um, homogenization. Yeah. Course you are on ah on the weekend to just me and some farmers hanging out. |
| 28:21.89 | mikebledsoe | That's what I do at festivals I Hang out with farmers chicken out chicken it eating some of the meat Egg Grew Um, and you know they were talking about the the common chicken you find at the Gar Grot grocery store is the. |
| 28:35.23 | Max Shank | A. |
| 28:38.64 | mikebledsoe | The meat has gotten to the point where you're not actually digesting and getting the protein out of like a typical chicken breast and yeah, so there's they've they basically bread for this one particular chicken that can barely even walk right? because the chickens are bred for. |
| 28:44.00 | Max Shank | What. |
| 28:54.31 | Max Shank | But yeah, um. |
| 28:57.91 | mikebledsoe | Weight and I don't I'd learned this to they now are getting these chickens up to full weight for slaughter and 6 to eight weeks after they hatch so now. Basically these chickens you know. |
| 29:08.50 | Max Shank | Wow. |
| 29:14.99 | mikebledsoe | They stand up real well against feeding them soy and corn. They they get fat. Really they put on weight really fast but the meat is of really low quality and ah and. |
| 29:18.89 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 29:26.51 | Max Shank | Like the Amino acid profile or something you mean. |
| 29:30.76 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I know if it's they it was something about how the meat grows it almost turns into fiber versus protein like it should be protein but it's like a protein. |
| 29:37.30 | Max Shank | Okay, that's that's weird. They're changing protein to a carb somehow. |
| 29:42.48 | mikebledsoe | No, it's not a car but they're saying like it's it's it's not digestible. It's too fibrous like that. Yeah, the meat is too fibrous. So and the other thing is there are 2 I'm sure someone can let me know they they may know more details about this. |
| 29:49.28 | Max Shank | Indigestible protein weird. |
| 30:03.12 | mikebledsoe | They're down to like 2 types of chicken that are being grown so you get 1 type of aviary flu comes in and just wipes them all out now we're out of chicken. So like you know them being single pain of. |
| 30:15.78 | Max Shank | It goes back to the single point of failure thing we were talking about last week |
| 30:21.16 | mikebledsoe | So if you homogenize too much. It only takes one disaster and then and then you and then it's ultimate chaos which is you know devastation? Yeah that that could but unless I mean and. |
| 30:25.50 | Max Shank | Yeah, unless there's redundancy built into that central system right? but but it's like diversification right? The more you diversify the more um cushion you have. |
| 30:40.28 | mikebledsoe | But it's not good. |
| 30:44.77 | Max Shank | But the less of ah the less you diversify the further you can go in a single direction back to the comparative advantage example. |
| 30:48.71 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, absolutely yeah, so just it seems like to Mobgenize is is a good thing but there's also potential downfalls and so I mean we we already talked about decentralization versus centralization and and how things are moving and how. |
| 31:02.22 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 31:08.39 | mikebledsoe | Things in the future may not need to be so homogenized in order for to create order. We're talking about order and yeah through more complex technology I think I think we need less of that. |
| 31:22.90 | Max Shank | Well, when it comes to decision making having ah rules of the game is really important if you want to make a decision in a sport or a game of some kind the rules need to be consistent and they need to be understood by everybody. For the game to work So That's part of what makes conversation so challenging for people who have been raised any time in the current Era. There's a lot of contention and there's not a lot of collaboration. There's not a lot of ability to have an expansive and collaborative argument rather than a combative argument. You know you and I argue the validity of different points looking for a truth. Or a better representative of the truth rather than having a combative argument where I'm trying to prove that a is right? and you're trying to prove prove that B is right and we already talked about how people will go to any means necessary to support their point. Even wishing the censorship or possibly murder of other people if they don't believe the the truth the same truth that they believe so being able to have the rules of the game. The rules of discourse the rules of. The locale clear and simple enough to be understood and effectively used by all is a prerequisite for us to be able to play the game. Ah consistently and joyfully. |
| 33:06.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well I think there's there's 1 thing we agree on that allows for differing opinions to come in and we're able to work through it that is we we don't we're not confused about what's right? And what's wrong like we we have an agreement on that. |
| 33:22.90 | Max Shank | Well oh no I think they're I. |
| 33:26.35 | mikebledsoe | And so because you were saying your time Out. You know I think there's the right way to do or the wrong way. But I I think that we both agree that something that is right is something that doesn't impede on somebody else's life or Liberty and if any anything that isn't. Trampling on somebody else's ability to live their life and the way they wish is totally right? That's right and anything that is trampling on someone else's life and Liberty is wrong and so everything else? Well, That's that's trampling over someone's life and Liberty but that's wrong. |
| 33:49.25 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 33:54.89 | Max Shank | Um, unless they murder 10 people right? right? right. |
| 34:04.11 | mikebledsoe | So so I think that we you and I both have a pretty clear understanding about what is right and wrong and anything that's not wrong is right? and so the ah and not only is it right? but it is a right right? I Think that's where rights come from. |
| 34:19.86 | Max Shank | Right? right. |
| 34:23.85 | mikebledsoe | So if I'm not doing something wrong. That means I'm not stealing from you I'm not taking your property I'm not enslaving you and I'm not killing you then anything I do outside of that is a right and we both understand that that's where we have agreement and I think because of that. |
| 34:30.73 | Max Shank | Yeah. True. |
| 34:42.44 | mikebledsoe | We understand that everything outside of that is an opinion and I think a lot of people they confuse the morality of right and wrong with their opinions and I think you and I have both been able to be. |
| 34:53.48 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 35:00.66 | mikebledsoe | Clearly have that in our mind that yeah this is what I'm holding right now isn't about right and wrong. It's just about it's an opinion or if it is right or wrong then it's ah, there's a very solid foundation in which that conversation is existing on so it's very easy to work through. |
| 35:08.80 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 35:16.90 | Max Shank | The question is really do the ends justify the means is it is the juice worth the squeeze is the benefit greater than the cost and that's where it gets way harder to tell because you you could make a wrong choice. Ah, for yourself and not know that you're making it and I think that happens all the time so we need to find a way to harmonize the instinct and the intellect because I know I'd come back to this a lot. But. Usually when people are angry or sad or over emotional. It's It's some version of afraid and they're in that lizard Brain Mode. So they might react instinctively they might. Yell or fight or run or cry or something like that when they feel afraid but only because they're in Lizard Mode. So I think a lot of folks don't even give themselves a chance myself included at times in the past I I Remember. Aftermath of making choices that way but in the moment you're like somewhat unaware of the fact that you're making these choices that in normal Circumstances. You would intellectually know this is probably not going to give me a better result. |
| 36:48.54 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 36:51.10 | Max Shank | So finding a way to harmonize the intellect and the instinct and use the intellect to channel the instinctive drives rather than sporadic explosions of instinct. |
| 37:05.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, the I like the idea of channeling instinct because that when I think about Instinct I Think about um Instinct is something that you can't actually put words to. Because it's It's something that wells up inside of your body. It's preverbal these are and we look at animals they're operating we say they're operating on Instinct because there is no language for you know and that's not necessarily always True. We can listen to these wells and dolphins and. |
| 37:25.60 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 37:39.50 | Max Shank | It's like programmed desire basically because Hunger is a form of desire sex is a form of desire safety is a form of desire. So there's you know pain is a synonym for all those things but there's a genetic pre-programmed in all of us. |
| 37:40.99 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 37:56.92 | Max Shank | Common ground where there's no question about the origin of these things This is something that is shared by pretty much all living creatures and so how do you take that Raw instinct and. |
| 38:05.70 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 38:14.65 | Max Shank | Channel it with greater precision into a place that you want being able to project further into the future can be really a frightening experience for people I think. |
| 38:24.88 | mikebledsoe | Well yeah, so so the instinct instinct coming from the body from you know the the brain stem essentially not coming from the prefrontal cortex where the intellectual mind lives and where language is formed. |
| 38:41.51 | Max Shank | My instinct is in my root Chakra Mine's way lower. |
| 38:43.19 | mikebledsoe | Is the moment. It's way lower. Yeah and we'll say from your your throat shock or down is it will is that instinct. Yeah yeah. |
| 38:54.24 | Max Shank | His instinct Huh That's a good way to put it. |
| 39:01.11 | mikebledsoe | Once you you get the intellect in your third eye. So that's that's that's actually I haven't used those words to describe it when I think about all the energy that exists below My third eye is there you if you try to put language to it. You're gonna fail. So the. |
| 39:01.92 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 39:20.55 | mikebledsoe | The the mind the intellect must translate the instinct. So the instinct is to do this or that but the mind is what tells the body that there is time there was a yesterday and there's a tomorrow. And there's a separation between Mike and max. It's the mind that yeah, it's the mind that creates this so now what you have the instinct is is so primal and without words you know we're just animals and so when we when these. |
| 39:39.92 | Max Shank | The scorekeeper. |
| 39:53.22 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 39:57.42 | mikebledsoe | Words come online and we have these incredibly strong instincts. This energy is flowing and if we don't know how to use our words if our if our vocabulary is limited. |
| 40:03.71 | Max Shank | Oh. |
| 40:12.50 | mikebledsoe | If We have no practice in changing how we think by changing the language in which we think in and not mean English versus Spanish I'm saying using expanding the vocabulary using different words understanding. Actually what you're saying and do you understand. And all the words that you you use yourself most people I think are running around using words that they're confused about and because they're confused about it. They're confusing people around them. So There's a whole culture of people who don't really know what they're talking about. And I think that's the majority of Americans in the least. Um I Do it too. So. |
| 40:51.44 | Max Shank | I Do it all the time I would say unless I'm very specific and deliberate and I want to make a very distinct point I let the conversation flow. Normally and I use all kinds of words and metaphors where I don't have a crystal clear definition of what I'm saying like with the word ignorant I had never thought about ignorant as being an active ignore ignoring I always thought about it as just a ah passive not knowing. And that's monumentally different. |
| 41:31.74 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and the the take this further is the the mind is having to translate to the body to the to the instinct and even train the instinct to a bit because. The Instinct wants Instant gratification. It wants what it wants right now and the mind has to step in and go whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa If We get what we want right now we won't have We won't be able to have it tomorrow and we won't be able to have it. |
| 41:51.87 | Max Shank | Ah, right. |
| 42:05.84 | Max Shank | Right? So it's like putting a leash. It's like putting a leash on the instinct and the shorter and shorter the leash the less it's running wild but sometimes it can be pretty fun to let your instincts run wild. Especially if you can. |
| 42:10.44 | mikebledsoe | You got it? True Yeah, totally to. |
| 42:22.56 | Max Shank | Really turn it off because I think that is equal and opposite damaging to have your entire life tightly controlled by your intellect and you'll feel like the weight of the future is unrelenting. |
| 42:32.30 | mikebledsoe | Absolutely. |
| 42:39.50 | mikebledsoe | Absolutely yeah and I think there are ah really healthy ways of letting that Instinct run wild. There's you can create containers for that. Um I've had the experience of just going full animal. Ah. |
| 42:51.10 | Max Shank | O. |
| 42:58.17 | mikebledsoe | Down in Columbia on this really big piece of property where I drink a little bit of yaha which is this incredibly powerful Psychedelic medicine and then I basically stripped down Buckna and run around the Sat sun roaring in the and the jungle like that's about. But. |
| 43:15.88 | Max Shank | Everybody else got a clear picture of that I Sure do. |
| 43:16.61 | mikebledsoe | I Also know that I'm supposed to say yeah. |
| 43:21.59 | mikebledsoe | Um, so that so the ah so there was a clear boundary I knew that I was not supposed to leave the property but within that you know I was. |
| 43:34.28 | Max Shank | M. |
| 43:39.42 | mikebledsoe | Able to completely let loose and you know turn into a Jaguar and do all that shit. So ah I've had to that's like my peak instinct tapping into instinct experience that I've had and then reintegrating that's interesting. But it's the integration back into the mind and the mind now has to translate what the instinct is asking for into language which is an incredibly difficult task and so my opinion is. |
| 44:12.42 | Max Shank | M. |
| 44:15.90 | mikebledsoe | You would. You'll never be able to perfectly articulate to yourself or to somebody else the experience of Instinct and by yeah, but you can get more accurate over time. |
| 44:26.92 | Max Shank | It's like trying to walk a mile in someone else's shoes you you can't do it. |
| 44:34.45 | mikebledsoe | You can expand your vocabulary. You can have a longer conversation with someone you can get somebody closer to it and you can get yourself closer to it but to get to the absolute truth of what it is. It's not possible. But I think it's a worthy task to to do as good as as possible at doing that. And so because you're in my instincts are probably very much the same I mean instincts amongst species of animals are very Similar. We know that dogs do these dog things and it's out of Instinct Dear do these deer things out of Instinct fish so on and so forth. But what makes us different. I Think why why humans are live such diverse lifestyles and there's such diverse. Um expressions of the instinct is because it's each person is interpreting their instinct through this this mind and. The mind is you know trying to control the the instinct and direct it and all this stuff. Um, so. |
| 45:37.62 | Max Shank | The prediction protection machine comes in a lot of different ah models right? Still your parents teachers peers media culture. Whatever are like okay here's your intellectual filter and then you go from being this. |
| 45:42.38 | mikebledsoe | Exactly yeah. |
| 45:55.94 | Max Shank | Little creature that doesn't have any language at all that just grabs stuff and puts things in its mouth and you know rolls around and now suddenly you're talking and you're saying this is good and this is bad and so now your third eye is the scorekeeper and the rule maker. Based on whatever you've been taught. |
| 46:16.37 | mikebledsoe | yeah yeah yeah I don't know if that's a I know I said third eye don't know if it's the exact or your third eye is ah to me is is when all the energy comes into a single point and then you can direct you can direct your attention. So I don't see a third eye as a thinker. |
| 46:28.87 | Max Shank | Um, um, ah that's that's a little different. Ok so you're so your intellect your intellect then. |
| 46:36.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it's a little different. Yeah, but you got us around a shak room. So I was trying to make sense of it but I wanted to correct that for myself. Yeah, which is I think that's different so but I think that's that's 1 thing that that I think that separates. |
| 46:46.80 | Max Shank | Yeah, it's interesting to think about projection. |
| 46:54.91 | mikebledsoe | People from one another is. It's that intellectual mind because I can never explain you my experience then then I know that max will never understand me completely and I can tell you a story. |
| 46:58.30 | Max Shank | M. |
| 47:06.81 | Max Shank | Yeah, you can tell me a story though and the better the better you are at communicating that story and the better I am at clarifying. Ah my interpretation with questions. The. |
| 47:24.21 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 47:24.22 | Max Shank | Clearer The communication will be and it's the same thing for the stories that we tell ourselves not just other people right? Um, it's so easy to have different milestones. |
| 47:32.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 47:42.12 | Max Shank | In your story that are told in a way that makes you into a victor or a victim for example and I know it's not always binary. But I think everybody listening including you and I has. Recognized people who at every point in their life was a tragedy the way they retell the story at least and you've heard other people in life where everything was a victory. It was ah it was always coming up jackpot for this person and then you're with them and you're like this doesn't. |
| 48:06.39 | mikebledsoe | Hey. |
| 48:19.75 | Max Shank | Actually seem like the same story I was being told and so it's very interesting and I wonder how genetic predisposition is like that um like being gay is genetic right? no. |
| 48:21.67 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 48:37.95 | mikebledsoe | I I think it's I think genetic? What? ah. |
| 48:39.42 | Max Shank | Yeah, you oh god here we go Mike Mike Bled so thinks being gay as a choice send your hate mail to Mike Underscore Blesco Aty at Instagram. |
| 48:54.37 | mikebledsoe | Um, ah. |
| 48:55.71 | Max Shank | I Hope you're ready for your inbox to be destroyed you hateful Homophobic bastard. |
| 49:03.25 | mikebledsoe | Ah, oh man. |
| 49:05.53 | Max Shank | Ah, you are practically a nazi you're practically hitler I can't believe you said that I'm so sorry for Mike everybody ah dear god. |
| 49:18.93 | mikebledsoe | Oh man, you know I I don't know Well we talk about this before the show is like the semantics matter because because we've talked about this before the the. |
| 49:21.11 | Max Shank | Ah, so let's so. |
| 49:29.56 | Max Shank | Um, what is and what isn't what is and what isn't. |
| 49:37.58 | mikebledsoe | I was listening to a story from somebody the other day that said you know that our the Dna sequence of a human and the sea creature is more alike than you know a human in ah in a chimpanzee and that immediately clued me into everyone's mind went to like oh my god. We're more like sea creatures than we thought and my mind immediately goes to. We're studying the wrong shit like these scientists are they they've missed the boat on something because they're really focused on this Dna thing when obviously that's not what's causing the expression of of ah of our reality. |
| 50:14.65 | Max Shank | Like child soldier spelling Gee champion. Yeah. |
| 50:15.40 | mikebledsoe | And so you know that's why I pause with the genetics and there's there's way more variables contributing to how a person is being than genetics or training or you know the the nature versus nurture is like ah a very It's a very cool topic to. Talk about, but it's nature and nurture are the same thing and the end of the day. |
| 50:38.19 | Max Shank | Good God I've never heard anything so hateful before. |
| 50:49.28 | Max Shank | Um, it's interesting to think and let's just take because it's ah like gayness is a funny topic to me. Ah, and for the record. Ah most people I don't like. And whether they're gay or straight has nothing to do with it. But let's suppose that gayness has some element of genetics and some element of Nurture. So some nature and some nurture does that mean that there is a chance that like you and I were like. 3 uncomfortable locker room situations away from turning gay that's pretty interesting right? Or for the food thing like you have a predisposition to um, fearful mindset. |
| 51:30.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, I've um. |
| 51:44.98 | Max Shank | And you have a predisposition to rapid weight gain. But then you layer on some trauma on top of it and boom you have food is the medicine. |
| 51:52.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, um, yeah I'd be curious to see stats on you know, ah when it comes to homosexuality like people who identify really heavily based on sexual preference. I Think anyone who identifies heavily on sexual preference alone or identifies heavily based on a preference of any kind. Not even sexual is very.. It's a very dangerous place to put yourself because now you get into. |
| 52:12.99 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 52:18.27 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 52:27.59 | mikebledsoe | You become very easy to control through political means. So yeah. |
| 52:30.87 | Max Shank | It goes back to our talk about the tribe right? If it's for the greater good of the tribe we'll fuck over anybody. |
| 52:37.72 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so you end up with really? ah you know you end up, you know if if you if you identify as being a part of this group or as being this thing. Then you got to vote this Way. You got to behave this Way. You can't hang out with this people. You got to hate this person or that you have to hate this other group and so I get I think that just anything that that starts creating identity becomes very dangerous which people who do identify heavily with a group get very angry. |
| 53:07.97 | Max Shank | I got. |
| 53:14.60 | mikebledsoe | When I say these types of things I gotta watch myself but I know that I'm safe here on on the Monday morning show and probably not. Ah. |
| 53:20.20 | Max Shank | I Don't know after all that bigotry earlier I don't think there's a chance I got a little jingle to help us remember this um and a Noun is easily taken down but you cannot disturb a verb. |
| 53:27.80 | mikebledsoe | Okay. |
| 53:37.00 | mikebledsoe | Ah, ah. |
| 53:38.48 | Max Shank | So That's that's what I think about um, you know you become the task your your ego is irrelevant the whole the whole magic is in knowing that the here and now is all there is and when you're. Planning You got to think of that like a hunt where you're like really focusing your attention and you're you're actively doing something but you're not also consumed with some identity that is fraught with all kinds of. Inconsistencies and crying egos desire to be loved in a very specific Way. So It's much better to become the action and you'll be better off doing actions that make you feel in Tune or in Harmony with the Universe. Which is your perspective and relationship with your surroundings. Um then trying to be trying to like be happy like you're not going to get Happiness. You can be in a flow State. You can be in peace and presence in the present moment. But if you're. If you're stuck in Noun based identities rather than becoming the task and doing it's going to be really hard. |
| 54:59.97 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I like the Noun versus the verb conversation overall because if you think about I've had this conversation when I was working with and lifted which is you are a verb if you consider yourself to be a Noun then you're. A Noun is static. It doesn't Move. It's It's not very fluid. It just is and it makes it very hard to progress when you identify as a Noun, but if you if your identity is a verb then a verb is doing. It is Moving. It is progressing. There is. It's always changing which is way more in line with reality because the universe is moving in a very fluid nature. There's very few solid things and. |
| 55:45.46 | Max Shank | O. |
| 55:55.79 | mikebledsoe | There's some solid principles in which everything is is revolving around for sure but going back to the the gay conversation is in my life I've experienced sexually a very.. There's been times where I was very narrow in my preferences and there's been times where my my preferences expanded tremendously and then I've made adjustments now the band of my preferences is probably not as big as a lot of other people's um. And but I don't necessarily like I I found what I like and but I don't like and I don't necessarily think that that yeah had I identified as just a straight man 100% I'll never Touched another guy in any way I wouldn't have gotten to where I am now and which is very um, um, I'm much more happier and I know that I've experienced all these things and I know what I like and what I don't like and and that's okay, but I think most people. Even people who well maybe even especially people who identify as straight and they'll never try anything and they identify with that Noun you know they may be they may be missing out on some some interactions even with. Say you're a guy you may be missing out on some interactions with women in some interesting situations If you're terrified to see another man naked in a sexual environment. |
| 57:33.38 | Max Shank | Wow! So you're saying that gayness is a choice and you would not be the man you are today without doing some slightly gay things. |
| 57:42.46 | mikebledsoe | Um, Ah what I'm saying is ah I have I have watched my own mind change enough and without intention and with intention ah to to realize that. I I could tiptoe right into just about anything if I I public up. Um my mind to it. So Someone's intentional. So It's not intentional, but you know I think it's I think people just do whatever the fuck they want at the end of the day. Yeah. |
| 58:16.54 | Max Shank | That's great. So ah, that's really what it comes down to it comes down to consent I think the verb Noun thing is great way to ah clarify. |
| 58:19.57 | mikebledsoe | As long as you've got consent I don't give a fuck. |
| 58:34.49 | Max Shank | The the breaking the back of the ego that is required to make the best decisions possible and take the verb running or to run versus I'm a runner so I am running versus I am a runner. |
| 58:39.59 | mikebledsoe | And. |
| 58:50.96 | mikebledsoe | Here. |
| 58:53.67 | Max Shank | And granted, if you identify strongly with an activity. You will probably be better at it and if you strongly identify with that action and then that action goes Away. You will feel a great loss. Also. |
| 59:12.50 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, or if you're not the best at it. It may that that also creates a situation of comparative analysis. It's like oh I'm I'm a runner so is max. Oh he's better at it than me like he can run faster further. |
| 59:20.94 | Max Shank | Competitiveness Yeah, right, It's true faster further easier. It means you're worse means you're worse than me at at running. |
| 59:29.34 | mikebledsoe | You know what's that mean about me. Yeah, what's that mean about me I'm I'm not as I'm not ah I'm not worthy. Yeah, so the. |
| 59:37.89 | Max Shank | Ah, oh man sounds so sad. Even even joking about it. But that's the inner monologue that most of us have for such a variety of reasons. |
| 59:43.39 | mikebledsoe | Totally that does and this one I'm a big fan of this conversation because ah there are so many things people are dealing with say being unhealthily competitive. And they're just trying to be less competitive when when we could be looking at something that's a much deeper conversation which is are you are you stuck in a noun-based identity or are you or are you moving with a verb based identity and if your identity is more fluid because ah being. Ah, associating more with being a verb creates identity fluidity which is which is which means that I can show up the best version of myself in every situation. No matter what because I'm not not over identifying with any 1 thing. You know when I'm in my office and I'm talking to you I'm a podcaster or I'm podcasting but when I leave here and I go hang on my girlfriend. You know I'm ah a romantic partner and all these things I think that there was a period of time where I started saying. Oh I'm like these 20 different identities. All these things that I do make up who I am and then one day I go this is just ridiculous. Why don't I just be like like just be completely fluid with the identity and I'll do what's. |
| 01:01:02.73 | Max Shank | Then. |
| 01:01:15.31 | mikebledsoe | Necessary for me the way the situation is demanding and me thinking about what label I want to put on myself so that I can try to seek some type of external validation. So I can feel good enough. That's just ridiculous. |
| 01:01:27.46 | Max Shank | And yet and yet that's what we mostly do I think entrepreneur is a very fluid identity in general because people are by definition willing to try a lot of different pursuits so you will attract that sort of personality. |
| 01:01:39.25 | mikebledsoe | It's broad. |
| 01:01:46.27 | Max Shank | Into entrepreneurship that is much more fluid. |
| 01:01:48.21 | mikebledsoe | No yeah, yeah, being on being an entrepreneur means so many things and such a broad term and I do I do like that when it it makes it easy to explain what I do I Tell you you know like I'm an entrepreneur a podcast coach. Whatever That's just me. |
| 01:01:55.84 | Max Shank | Yeah. Right? But then but then nobody knows if you're good right away? Yeah, right. |
| 01:02:08.20 | mikebledsoe | Just me relaying you know to other people so they they know how to talk to me. That's the other thing is I tell people when they ask me what I do or who I am I Um I don't tell the same and I don't tell different people the same thing if um, if I'm hanging out with a bunch of coaches I tell them you know I'm a coach. |
| 01:02:16.94 | Max Shank | Yeah. Ah. |
| 01:02:27.35 | mikebledsoe | Coming out somewhere most of the time I pull out the more recently and I've decided to start pulling out the podcaster card more because no matter who they are. They may want to come listen if I tell them that I coach coaches if they're not a coach. They don't give a fuck. |
| 01:02:35.32 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:02:43.36 | Max Shank | Um, maybe I'll start doing that I mean I don't know if that's I guess technically true I've done enough to be considered a podcaster. But if you're. |
| 01:02:46.92 | mikebledsoe | So yeah. |
| 01:02:52.38 | mikebledsoe | Well also if you tell people you're a coach then they start bringing their problems to you and the same thing happens with Ashley he's like oh you're a therapist you know I've been I've been dealing. It's like I get the fuck away from me. Ah. |
| 01:03:02.37 | Max Shank | Right? Very compassionate of you. Ah, no totally. It's about setting those boundaries but I think what's cool about saying I'm a podcaster is you are in a very subtle way saying my words are important my words are. |
| 01:03:17.96 | mikebledsoe | Oh really? Ah yeah, but anyone's got a podcast these days I feel to me being a podcaster's not a big deal deal at all because there's it's almost no barrier to entry. |
| 01:03:21.37 | Max Shank | My words are important. Yeah, of course it says that yeah I have a I have a radio show My my words are important. It's It's really interesting. It's not. It's not cool. No. |
| 01:03:37.26 | mikebledsoe | All you need is a phone and and a 10 Joe Regan yeah yeah well of course. Well it's there's going back to podcasting is decentralized media. You know. |
| 01:03:40.32 | Max Shank | But who has the biggest audience in the world people listening to podcaster. Yeah, that's wild. |
| 01:03:54.81 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:03:55.91 | mikebledsoe | He's got the biggest audience in the world for sure. But then there's 4000000 shows that are you know, almost no one listens to to those but but you can do it and anyone can do it in the period entry is super low. |
| 01:04:02.66 | Max Shank | Nobody listens to yeah yeah. Which is pretty cool. |
| 01:04:14.40 | mikebledsoe | And that's going to keep happening in every industry every industry that the barrier to entry is going to just keep getting lower and lower and lower unless the government layers on regulation then the barrier to entry gets high which is what they're trying. That's why Facebook and Twitter ah tried to. They've been very. |
| 01:04:24.70 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 01:04:33.50 | mikebledsoe | Um, encouraging of government regulations and people go oh there like it's a noble thing that Facebook wants there to be regulation where they're the only motherfuckers that can afford the lawyers to wait through the bureaucracy they're there. They're squeezing out their competition every time there's a new regulation like Facebook wants it. |
| 01:04:49.19 | Max Shank | Well, that's how lobbying works. Yeah paide. No it shows it shows the power of communication though I mean. |
| 01:04:52.74 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah I don't think we actually got to what we were originally talking to. But I think it's okay I'm I'm enjoying the content. |
| 01:05:06.46 | Max Shank | Refer to lawyers as word Warriors and they can they can manipulate they can manipulate look if you're a good lawyer. You can manipulate almost any situation to sound totally different than what physically happened. |
| 01:05:07.86 | mikebledsoe | I Love it. It's true. |
| 01:05:22.63 | mikebledsoe | Totally. |
| 01:05:25.26 | Max Shank | And it's storytelling. It comes it all comes full circle in the beginning. There was the word and whatever I say that's what's true and the more confident you are about that like what I say is good and what they say is bad. A lot of people just are wanting to believe that because also there are going to be more people who want to follow than people who want to lead So you're going to naturally have these groups right? It's like ah. Some people want to be whipped and some people want to do the whipping and I don't know what the percentage is on that and my guess that it varies significantly by Gender. Ah so it's very I Just mean in general. |
| 01:06:03.84 | mikebledsoe | And. |
| 01:06:15.37 | mikebledsoe | To I like bdsm situations. |
| 01:06:21.73 | Max Shank | Like yes also in that sort of a situation. Oh I was going to say ladies but are you going to have a different answer. They're more receiving and attractive. |
| 01:06:22.75 | mikebledsoe | Which gender. Do you think likes be whipmore. |
| 01:06:31.89 | mikebledsoe | I Find that the more dominant and day to day day to day. |
| 01:06:40.68 | Max Shank | That's what I mean so you oh I see what you're saying so they're ah they want to assume a different role to decompress from being an a tractor of force rather than a transmitter of force. |
| 01:06:49.84 | mikebledsoe | Yes, yeah, it can feel very powerful in a different way. So like a lot of times you create a container where there's ah where you can play a new role and. |
| 01:06:57.64 | Max Shank | Interesting. |
| 01:07:05.30 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:07:07.75 | mikebledsoe | And maybe someone who's normally on the more of a receiver gets to be someone who's delivering and it's ah it's a really fun experience and the same with Richard Branson is one of these. He's got a couple dominrix with them most of the time. |
| 01:07:12.98 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:07:22.66 | Max Shank | Loves to get whipped. Seriously, he's got a few dominatrixes with him all the time you heard it here first. |
| 01:07:24.56 | mikebledsoe | And he's a very powerful guy. He's the one giving orders all day. Yeah, still about all the time that that that's ah, maybe an over generalization. But ah my my my friends who have spent time with him have said that they're present. Um, so. |
| 01:07:39.70 | Max Shank | Wow. |
| 01:07:44.11 | mikebledsoe | The and I don't know if that's public information but I'll give a fuck because Richard Richard Branson is you know he's old. So. |
| 01:07:46.68 | Max Shank | It is now. A Monday morning original you heard it here for breaking news folks. |
| 01:07:57.51 | mikebledsoe | I think I think the guy's really great in some respects but anyone who came out and wanted mandates or pushing are the people to get vaccinated Richard Branson comes out and gives me some fucking medical advice. He can shove up his ass. So totally. |
| 01:08:11.38 | Max Shank | He thought he was doing the right thing Mike he was doing it for your own good. He thought he was doing good and yeah, yeah. |
| 01:08:17.13 | mikebledsoe | totally totally there there's a handful of people I looked up to before this whole debacle Schwarzenegger is another one you ever hear that screw your freedom clip. Yeah, the guy that came here from Austria and became. |
| 01:08:30.24 | Max Shank | Yeah I get I get sent ah a few things like that. Yeah, it's it. Well, it's like ah don't don't worship false idols you know or or that phrase never meet your heroes because then they'll just disappoint The fuck out of you. |
| 01:08:35.20 | mikebledsoe | And experience wilder success. |
| 01:08:40.51 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 01:08:49.67 | Max Shank | I think ah Richard Branson is actually the perfect ah way to bring this back full circle because reading that guy's book ah almost gave me stomach ulcers. |
| 01:08:56.77 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 01:09:05.31 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 01:09:07.89 | Max Shank | In terms of the way that he makes decisions because every chapter was a different variation of and then I bet it all on black and then I mortgaged the house and I bet it all on red and then I sold my music company to buy. |
| 01:09:19.52 | mikebledsoe | Right? right. |
| 01:09:27.18 | Max Shank | Ah, fucking jet engine and then I rolled the dice I mean this guy was just a fucking lucky animal just a lucky animal and all of the steps of the story were like. Bankrupt not bankrupt but up and down all around and look what is the result now. He's exactly where he is which some people would say is really good. We have no idea what that guy's life is like except for your hot tip on the. Ah, live in dominatrixes but that can work that that that could work that could work right? his his way of just being ah a bowl in a China Shop it seemed like. |
| 01:10:03.12 | mikebledsoe | I live in. Anyways, they're they're present. But yeah. |
| 01:10:15.77 | mikebledsoe | Why you know you only got to hit once or twice you only got it investing is not gambling because in gambling you're gonna you're gonna come in and start over the next day and investing. |
| 01:10:16.45 | Max Shank | On to the next thing on to the next thing onto the next thing on to the next thing It's true. |
| 01:10:26.78 | Max Shank | Um, kind of is m. |
| 01:10:35.43 | mikebledsoe | You hit once and you never have to work again. You may may win big at the casino. But you're you're gonna be back in the casino. |
| 01:10:41.48 | Max Shank | Um, interesting. Yeah I almost think of them as ah, just 2 versions of a similar thing because once you hit a jackpot on one business you're going to feel the itch to do another one probably. |
| 01:10:49.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 01:10:55.37 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, but you can if you're smart about it. You'll take a portion of it and diversify and things that are more stable. Yeah. |
| 01:11:06.42 | Max Shank | That's not the Branson way. That's what I like to do I like to take some of my money off the table because you know I don't want to give all the money back that I won I want to take some off. He just let it ride the whole time. How much money do I have. |
| 01:11:14.27 | mikebledsoe | Now now now. Are are how how would how would you like to wrap up this show. What's the how I don't know I just hear comment thread. |
| 01:11:23.80 | Max Shank | Bet it all bet it. It is impossible to wrap up this show I'm still thinking about all of the people who are going to send you angry messages that you said being gay. Is a choice that's incredible. Can we make that the title of the show being gay as a choice by Mike Blitz how um |
| 01:11:42.89 | mikebledsoe | Ah, you know what? I know how I I I Know how people's minds were go but I never said that go back and listen to the actual conversation. Ah, Max knows if he says it enough people will believe it repetition. Yeah, absolutely. |
| 01:12:05.37 | Max Shank | It's that's true with almost everything right now is it also true that you think it can be cured. |
| 01:12:15.39 | Max Shank | I Don't know if you provide a service or anything like that. Ah. |
| 01:12:16.63 | mikebledsoe | Ah, oh man I've ah I'm aware of some services like that I think it's a very interesting thing that exists in the world. So that's all of another show. |
| 01:12:35.42 | Max Shank | So how do we make good decisions Mike Vision values no that was how you start that was the very first sentence you said in the that was it the first sentence you said then. |
| 01:12:35.49 | mikebledsoe | That's all another show. |
| 01:12:42.30 | mikebledsoe | We we talk about vision values boundaries. That's how we started. Um, that's where I thought that's where I wanted to take it and then we got into a flow. |
| 01:12:55.23 | Max Shank | There was a little. There's a little sign marker at the very beginning sentence one and then we just took a hard u-turn in a completely different direction. We didn't I don't even remember what the third thing is now I knew was vision values in something else. Boundaries there you go maybe we'll do that next week. |
| 01:13:08.61 | mikebledsoe | Boundaries. Yeah, maybe next week we'll see we have to name the show though. So we have to come up with what the hell we talked about. Ah yeah, any any summaries since. I remember what we said. |
| 01:13:22.35 | Max Shank | I Think the concept of not getting hyper attached to an identity and a Noun ah like a fixed state versus a dynamic action and being a verb instead just trying to become the task. Really Good. We talked a little bit about communication I think that myself included we all talk too damn much and if you focus on doing things that are intrinsically enjoyable that you want to do just for the sake of doing. Then you are in the present moment and the ego is irrelevant. There. So then you aren't going to worry so much about you know how all these other ah stimuli affect you all these news stories and all this fear mongering because I think it's good to Remember. It's basically always been. Like this where a small group are trying to completely terrify a big group into falling in line. |
| 01:14:29.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, pretty much very accurate I like what you said I'm not going to I'm not going to add anything I think we had a good conversation. Ah, you can follow me on Instagram at Mike Underscore bloodso and keep paying attention to this channel I've got a lot more. Episodes posting of interviews that I am doing some other folks and max and I are going to continue to put Monday morning up every monday. |
| 01:14:57.98 | Max Shank | Sweet. You can find me at http://mashank.com or at mashank and I think there are a few spots available for the partner agility and strength system certification I believe that is June eleventh and there's a big discount if you sign up before the end of April so ah, that's it. Thanks Mike Love you man. |
| 01:15:26.23 | mikebledsoe | Excellent! Thanks Max! Love you. |
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| 00:00.00 | mikebledsoe | Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're going to be talking about decentralization now this is a word that's being thrown around quite a bit I don't think that people necessarily know what it means and when it's used. It's normally used specifically for. Currencies they're talking about decentralized currencies alternative currencies like bitcoin ethereum and a bunch of other shitcoins that are out there but the idea of decentralization is much bigger than that and when we look at technologies that allow us to decentralize. We can see how it disrupts. |
| 00:37.94 | mikebledsoe | Economics It Disrupts social constructs and it yeah entire societies. So we're gonna talk about as decentralization occurs what you can do to position yourself to be in the best place possible. Um, and not get completely screwed over like some people are gonna experience. |
| 00:58.54 | Max Shank | Well I think this is gonna be perfect for us to talk about because you and I have really different perspectives on this I'm not very schooled in cryptocurrency because I don't quite understand the stability of it. Um. But I am deeply interested in increasing the amount of freedom I have in my life as well as that of our listeners. So I'm excited to discuss it with you today. |
| 01:27.44 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, so let's start here the the decentralization um as a concept is that there's a smaller group of people that have absolute control over what's going on in their world. |
| 01:46.14 | Max Shank | Um, that's centralization. You mean. |
| 01:46.84 | mikebledsoe | So right now decentralization. Well there's ah what I mean is like you're grouped into a smaller group So there's greater responsibility for the individual in a decentralized society. |
| 01:58.88 | Max Shank | So the individual has more agency over their money their time their food that sort of thing. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. |
| 02:03.31 | mikebledsoe | Yes, yeah, yeah, more agency more autonomy more choice. Um in some cases so in ah and a centralized setup. |
| 02:15.43 | Max Shank | A. |
| 02:21.72 | mikebledsoe | Which is primarily what we're existing in right now if we have we have centralized money we have centralized food supplies. We have centralized energy systems. So when I talk about decentralization or centralization. This is a global conversation. Not necessarily. Talking only about cryptocurrencies or only about farming so with that being said is if you're we are being driven into a decentralized society because of ah you know this twofold one is people desire. It. Enough people desire it and that desire has helped people to generate technology which makes it possible and due to a lot of centralized power and a lot of money coming into a very small group people a lot of technology has been advanced. That used to only be available to a few that's now available to many an example of this is I remember when and you've probably noticed this max is Amazon um, and this is just a function of capitalism Amazon has. Always has better technology than the average ecommerce store. They have better tracking. They've got more data on their users. They've got ah their ability to sell at scale is just incredible and there's so many pieces of technology that. Only existed for http://amazon.com five years ago and now you and I have access to Facebook ads that targeting targeted ads that most people don't know much about ah because of Facebook and ah. A lot of this stuff that only really advanced marketers with a lot of money had access to special software. That's now been made available to all of us. So um I mention that because because of the way that things have been built up at this point is what actually creates the opportunity for a. Decentralized technology do exist now. So one's not better than another one just gives birth to another and the technology that's available will basically demand that you things be more decentralized and that each person takes more personal responsibility. And for those who don't take personal responsibility. It's gonna be a hard transition. |
| 04:56.23 | Max Shank | I think you brought up 1 of the big advantages of centralization which is called economies of scale. So one of the reasons that people we can feed more people and one of the reasons that we can get more people a cell phone. |
| 05:05.25 | mikebledsoe | Go. |
| 05:15.98 | Max Shank | Is because these companies are able to do it at a much lower cost because as the number of units goes up the cost per unit thanks to efficiency goes down so not just. Thinking centralization bad decentralization good is important and I would also agree that as long as the consumers are free to choose their product then that will yield the. Best efficiency as long as you can choose whether you want to go to Walmart or the farmer's market or something like that I think that's kind of inherently good and the more we are allowed to choose the better. The outcome is and the more people are forced to obey. the the worse the outcome is historically and presently. |
| 06:15.79 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, this conversation makes me think about Atlas shrugged. You've read the book. Yeah, okay, ah so in out. |
| 06:23.99 | Max Shank | People either really like that book or they really hate that book's guts don't they no no, one's like it's all right I guess. |
| 06:32.38 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well you know anytime I run it when I run into people that hate it it I've learned to to focus in on 1 thing in the conversation that will totally break them and that is did you finish it. |
| 06:50.33 | Max Shank | First. |
| 06:51.91 | mikebledsoe | Did you read the whole thing because I've yet to meet somebody who's actually read the whole thing that still hates it so you know usually people hate it because they read something that someone else wrote about it or they're part of a ah social group that. Thinks that ein Rand is the Devil. So ah, it makes me think about that because you know you're saying choice. But right now they're essential like so let's just forget forget that but the where things are going when decentralized decentralization becomes possible technologically possible I think is what's going to happen is what happened in atlas shrug which is the most productive people in society are going to choose decentralization now. Decentralization wasn't. Necessarily a concept in that book. But the concept in the book was that the people who were the most productive and the people who took the most responsibility for themselves and their companies and things like that once that once they were being taxed. And the government was demanding and and social groups were demanding that they be more like slaves than independent and people they basically burned down their factories and walked away from their jobs and shut down the railroads and all went hiding in a valley in Colorado. And a lot of and then people in society are going. You can't do that and goes I can do whatever I want I'm not a slave and so I think what's gonna happen is the the atlas shrug is happening but we're not gonna have to go hide in a valley in Colorado. And where we're we were you know able to hide from planes and radar and shit what's going to happen is we're me able to hide technologically or we're going to be able to opt out of the current system. Ah and technologically and then everyone who's productive goes there and the people who are mediocre at. Best will still subscribe to the to the centralized model and so when we start talking about choice. It's like yeah you do have a choice but the being a part of a centralized model in 2020 or 2019 or whatever was. Really probably the most convenient choice. It was you you ended up having a lot of luxury a lot of really cool things were available to you. But as time goes on if the best producers on the planet decentralize. They've now removed themselves from your economy. So you're not getting the best anymore. |
| 09:43.84 | mikebledsoe | And the the beauty of a centralized economy and a centralized society is you don't have to think so much because people can become much more specialized and they don't have to consider. You know where does my food come from. You know what's really going on with the currency people right now. For instance, you could take a computer programmer and they've gotten really good at computer programming. They don't know Jack shit about anything but computer programming and so that's because. They can pick up their phone and have their groceries delivered to their house. They can just automatically have their money. Ah go into an Ira that you know someone from their job told them it was a good idea and that could they're they're outsourcing their wealth. Their health. Just outsource all these things something goes wrong physically, they don't have to be aware of it. They just go to the doctor and they write him a prescription a pill to fix it and so. |
| 10:42.41 | Max Shank | Well, that's comparative advantage. You hunt the food I'll cook the food and this guy here will protect us in the night and this lady over here will take care of all the children. |
| 10:51.76 | mikebledsoe | Totally but in a world of centralization where we're dealing with hundreds of millions of people. We'll we'll talk about the United States specifically it's become. It's we've gone past the point of diminishing returns. There is a massive benefit to it. But now we're seeing the repercussions of it for instance, the average person unless you're a health expert your health is really poor. |
| 11:19.31 | Max Shank | That's true and we could think about the causality of that and to piggyback on this centralization theme I think it's really important to differentiate between which sectors. Of Centralization. We're talking about So I like to simply think of it as you have no choice of where to go you have to come to us basically right? and so there's education which I'm no fan of I think it's child abuse. |
| 11:42.50 | mikebledsoe | In a centralized model. |
| 11:54.28 | Max Shank | I Think it's a really bad investment I think it's yeah public school I think it's one of the worst things you could do to a child. It's a horrible investment I could it's obedience school. Let's keep a simple language obedience school listen to this guy at the front. |
| 11:54.41 | mikebledsoe | Government education. |
| 12:01.14 | mikebledsoe | We should just call them indoctrination system governmental indoctrination systems or something. |
| 12:13.23 | mikebledsoe | Did you you send your kid their obedience school today. He's been acting up. |
| 12:13.56 | Max Shank | Sit down shut up, ask permission to go to the bathroom god forbid it I ever have a kid I would never send it to school not in 1000000 years um under no circumstance. Yeah well, it's ah you know I don't want to assume it's gender. |
| 12:22.85 | mikebledsoe | If I won't have a kid as long as you start referring to as long as you refer to it as it. Um, you might get yourself in hot water there in California. |
| 12:33.55 | Max Shank | Ah, so I don't want to be 1 of those hateful people who used to think that genitals identified your gender. Ah I'm woke now. Ah so anyway, so. |
| 12:49.23 | mikebledsoe | Congratulations max. |
| 12:50.61 | Max Shank | Centralized education gets away worse result. Ah the bigger. The centralized government is the worse. The result is because it's the difference between the pie makers and the pie slicers and you have to Zoom way out and. And way in to really understand what's happening so zooming way out to what it's like to be a creature who's capable of doing things and surviving in the world is really difficult on your own. In fact, it's impossible on your own. So the whole purpose of our culture. Is to reduce chaos and that's why actually why games and play are so critical for building relationships and also building skills because if you have the chaos reduced through culture but you don't have any dosage of that excitement or chaos. You're going to be a really sad little monkey and then you also need to really zoom in on what I call rules of engagement so you have to consider the interactions between entities. And reduce it down to the fewest parts possible to really understand what's happening. You know if 3 people live on a cul-de-sac and 2 people vote that they should Rob. The third one is that okay and interestingly enough in democracy. Yes, that's. That's perfectly. Okay, in fact, that's exactly how it works as long as most people want to Rob the not most people then is totally fine. So all of this back and forth. |
| 14:33.33 | mikebledsoe | It. It's interesting. How people people lose the concept of morality at scale it. What you? what you say makes no sense when it's a hundred people but the moment it's a 0 people it's |
| 14:43.50 | Max Shank | The. |
| 14:52.23 | mikebledsoe | Somehow has eluded people What what do you think that is. |
| 14:55.22 | Max Shank | The the greater good The fallacy of the greater good. Um, and it has to do with arrogance. Some people want to be saviors so they have a messianic complex of some kind and they want to be the guy who saves everyone some people are just sadists. And they want to dominate and control people and typically those are the only type of people who want ah positions of Authority like I I don't want a position of Authority over anyone but myself because I think I'm I'm a reasonable person. Ah, it's totally unreasonable. To want to be in charge of hundreds of millions of people. It's totally unreasonable. Um, but that's why. |
| 15:40.86 | mikebledsoe | There's a book about this There's a political pourology I I began it I've read about 20% and then I had to start it was one of those books where it started getting I was gonna have to invest more energy into it. When I want to put my energy somewhere else. I'm definitely going to come back to it but the concept I had gotten to that point was psychopaths make up 4% of the population. This is a so this is a known psychological statistic. |
| 15:59.26 | Max Shank | M. |
| 16:14.72 | mikebledsoe | And just like the rest of Society. The psychopaths tend to you know they the thing that makes a psychopath so powerful is not only are they not experiencing emotions the same way we are so we experience emotions and. Creates turbulence and it impacts our decision making and yeah, we just we just do really strange things to fit in and somebody who's a psychopath the the really good ones understand that other people. Are having a different emotional experience than they are. They know it and they know how to exploit it and so yeah, so not only not only do they, they're not experiencing the same emotional stuff so they actually become very apathet on a become I think they just are that sounds like they're born this way. |
| 16:55.20 | Max Shank | They leverage that perceived weakness. |
| 17:10.91 | mikebledsoe | They're very apathetic which is kind of a problem but then on top of that they understand how you can be manipulated with your emotions and so ah, just like any group of people they're the ones that are really smart and then they're the ones that are really dumb. The dumb ones end up in prison and the smart ones end up in Dc and the so there they are attracted to pout. So you tell about being unreasonable this book makes the um makes the case that ah. They're drawn to power over other people and so. |
| 17:48.40 | Max Shank | Exactly and like what you just said, it's rhetoric driven. It's tugging on people's emotions rather than focusing on fundamental rules of engagement. You know there really shouldn't be that many laws and every law should be in simple language. But of course. |
| 17:52.84 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 18:07.74 | Max Shank | That is not incentivized by the people who are writing up these laws. You know so. |
| 18:11.90 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I like what you're talking. Ah I want to go back a little bit because we're a little off track but the it was worth touching on the the as you were talking before I was thinking about incentives because when we think about people who are in in a centralized power structure. And you always mention this first we got to look at incentives so someone in a centralized power structure where is the incentive for them to make the decisions that they're making so what is the incentives of the news media. The centralized news media outlets Cnn ah Fox all these things a highly centralized stream of information because they're all reporting the same shit. They've got the same narrative. There's a centralized There's a centralization of information there and then. |
| 19:06.00 | Max Shank | I would say they're opposing narratives but they're about the same thing and that thing doesn't matter very much compared to the real situation which is jurisdiction and Authority who's in charge and when do they exercise that authority. |
| 19:08.30 | mikebledsoe | There. |
| 19:13.18 | mikebledsoe | Well. |
| 19:21.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and well that episode that you recommend to me last week Joe Rogan with Gavin De Becker he talked about how man that was one of the best Rogan shows I've ever heard. Ah, he talked about. |
| 19:29.55 | Max Shank | Is champ. |
| 19:38.50 | mikebledsoe | How all the news media outlets basically agreed to call Iver mechton horse paste and there wasn't a major news outlet that wasn't doing that and so what they got. |
| 19:42.80 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 19:49.96 | Max Shank | It's a coordinated assault on people's minds to maximize their attention and to maximize their fear because fear is deeper in the brain than anything else. So you have to recognize that that. You have to recognize that the news is a hostile entity and you must take precautions to protect yourself from this because of the incentives you know, um, the whole idea of good and evil. Is um I think it's a trap all on its own. You know, don't believe the red guys are evil the blue guys are evil whatever just recognize that they're um, traumatized animals just just like almost every person right? and they're just doing. What is in their best interest with no regard for you but rather than ah say this is evil this is good. This is what whatever you just have to recognize for yourself that that is a hostile attack. On your mind and it's not going to help you exist in the world better to pay attention and it might even feel ironically a little more scary at first to not like know what's going on in the world but when it distracts you from. |
| 21:16.30 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 21:22.60 | Max Shank | The fundamental. That's why I come back to rules of engagement if I have value that I can provide to you that you believe is truly valuable as long as I can communicate with you. You will take it. And it'll be a win-win situation. That's why I say the customer is always right? The coercer is always wrong and the more you focus on serving your customers something that they really value the more abundant your life will be and the more you focus on. Plugging in to a machine that is literally trying to destroy your mind and break you into thinking that you are alone and isolated and powerless and convince you that some asshole in a big chair. Knows what's best for everybody else because he suddenly like figured out his version of utopia How could utopia be the same thing for Everybody. We're so different. You know some people like having their nipples hooked up to car Batteries. Do I Want that guy deciding what utopia is no way. |
| 22:30.21 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah, ah, circle back. But the going back I wanted to finish on the incentives thing is is ah going back to the fear. The the media creating fear the incentive there is. The more fear they can create the more you're gonna consume their content and the more you consume their content the more you're gonna buy from their advertisers and their advertisers are going to send more money to the news agency and so you know. |
| 23:03.11 | Max Shank | And the more you'll trust what they say if you if you just expose yourself to it more you will start to trust what they say more and more and more and more and more and that's why you have right now, People who blindly Trust one outlet and blindly distrust another is the classic. |
| 23:07.31 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 23:11.54 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 23:22.71 | Max Shank | God and the devil situation. Blindly Trust whatever God says which is your favorite news outlet and blindly distrust whatever the devil says which is the fucking other guy. It's just it's us and them type of shit and you would think we would be past this but we're still just. Ah, half-retarded chimps looking for food and love. |
| 23:47.78 | mikebledsoe | There's um I want to point out you said something really important is the it's the repetition creates beliefs. So if you if you were consuming that news outlet every day. It's the repetition of something that makes it believable. We talk about the there's there's ah, a handful of ways that you learn something and if you want to ingrain something as ah as a skill and I think about skills and beliefs the same exact way is. Every skill you want to get better at hitting baseballs. You're gonna fucking swing that baseball bat a lot of times if you want to believe that something is true. You'll go to church every Sunday that way you get that repetition and so that you ingrain it. Whether it be good or bad I'm not saying either 1 is good or bad. But this idea of good and evil ah playing out and saying yeah red team bad blue team good whatever it is. It is is really. Great to look at through the lens of centralization versus decentralization because in a in a centralized model of society you can create groups of people and just say that entire group over there is bad or that entire group over there is good because not only is the information. There's um, there's so little deviation from one narrative about who's good or bad There's no opportunity. It. Yeah, it just creates very few options. It's like you're either like good bad or independent and you're kind of a dick for not you know. Deciding you're good or bad or not and so the decentralization of good and evil requires and here's the thing is decentralization requires people to think and that's why a lot of people are are resistant to it because you have to think. And if you have to apply moral law in your own mind to each individual that you come in contact with then instead of just being able to label them and not have to be curious about them and think about them and listen to them. It's it's a form of laziness. And people are ah again going back to repetition. People are repetitively ignoring information they're being ignorant by choice and they've done it so much that they they don't even think there's a way to consider and. |
| 26:31.91 | mikebledsoe | And make a moral judgment themselves on an individual instead of an entire group people because someone else did the thinking for them. |
| 26:37.79 | Max Shank | Well, there's a reason that um, we do that is because trust saves calories. It's really valuable to be able to trust other people that way you're not assessing every person you interact with and go oh is this guy going to attack me and steal my. |
| 26:44.70 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 26:57.78 | Max Shank | Will the beast meet or whatever it is I'm guessing be different now but trust saves calories so it can be a very powerful tool and if you trust nobody man life is extremely hard and it feels very isolated So it's. |
| 26:58.57 | mikebledsoe | Um, am. |
| 27:11.81 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 27:16.36 | Max Shank | No surprise that we want to trust somebody that we want to. It's all it's trust is pure efficiency it. It is like language faith Trust all this stuff if I can outsource my health to someone who knows better. |
| 27:28.32 | mikebledsoe | 5 blame. |
| 27:36.23 | Max Shank | And I can outsource my finances to someone who knows better and I'm saying legitimately. Also they legitimately know better that that's going to give me a much better outcome if I can trust a farmer who's much better at farming to make my food I'm going to end up. So. Crazy wealthy. It is like a superpower to have all of these different experts and that's the core of comparative advantage but you got to be careful who you put your faith into right? That's why I think um, The. The most flexible culture is one that is based on free choice because if trust is broken in one sector, there's another sector to soften that trauma basically. |
| 28:29.20 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 28:30.62 | Max Shank | You know what? I mean as long as there are multiple options for where you can go to school buy your food. Um that sort of thing. It's ah yeah, multiple places multiple doctors you can go to and of course everyone because of. |
| 28:41.60 | mikebledsoe | Well that this is where. |
| 28:49.60 | Max Shank | Power structures we want to go from survival up to supremacy. It's like survival sex and supremacy and sex and supremacy are so closely interrelated because that's how ladies choose the more ah exalted or elevated you are in the hierarchy the more. Ah, you are going to alert the sounds so weird alert The females to your viability genetically right? So you have to look at these. |
| 29:19.30 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 29:25.00 | Max Shank | Raw instincts underneath all of this stuff so because there are people who are looking to dominate and protect their authority. They're also going to stomp out other alternatives and maybe even with good intentions. Do some? Ah arguably evil stuff the greater good just anytime you like hear or even feel that sense of the greater good. Oh My God that person. |
| 29:49.30 | mikebledsoe | That's where book burning comes in hand comes in handy. |
| 30:02.45 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, that's ah, that's a slippery one. Um, why the ah book burning I mean the modern day book burning is getting banned from Twitter or Youtube or whatever it is um. |
| 30:02.86 | Max Shank | Come on get out of here. Good lord. |
| 30:14.78 | Max Shank | Yeah, that's pretty wild. |
| 30:19.42 | mikebledsoe | It's pretty fucking people people think are advocating for if they were actually burning books on the street they might freak out but they don't think they're not able to think and connect the dots that these the the way it's happening is the same thing or. |
| 30:34.68 | Max Shank | Censorship is an admission of guilt we should. We should be able to have we should be able to have ah a Martin Luther King guy and a hitler guy have a nice debate with each other that would be interesting to watch and like. |
| 30:36.97 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 30:45.32 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 30:49.94 | Max Shank | What you have so little faith in humanity that everyone's going to go like you know what after that crazy guy yelled for a while I think I am going to go for ethnic cleansing now. It's like what come on. |
| 30:58.35 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, oh man. Ah yeah, there's so much to talk about there. The I think that I want I Want to point out that decentral late decentralization is not isolation. It's quite the opposite and I think what's going to happen in the future is that. |
| 31:20.88 | Max Shank | It's of specific aspects to it's not absolute decentralization because that that wouldn't be very efficient at all I think you're mostly talking about currency I think you're mostly talking about currency. |
| 31:27.39 | mikebledsoe | Right? You can decentralized to right right? You're not, We're not decentralizing down to the individual all I'm talking about but no I'm talking about food I'm talking about energy all these things. Ah the the it's not. It's not well. |
| 31:37.30 | Max Shank | In most cases right. |
| 31:44.95 | Max Shank | Talk to me talk to me about him separately though. So I can understand better. |
| 31:46.49 | mikebledsoe | I say this because what? ah my isis. Okay well I suspect that the media in the future. The mainstream media is gonna start trying to talk about deset people who are doing decentralized things forming decentralized communities. They're gonna be considered isolationist and. You know they're gonna try to you know, burn them. But ah, they're racist. Yeah,, they're already doing it. You're racist if you don't want to participate in this this narrative that we have going On. You must be a racist trumper and you can't be Trusted. We're gonna have to. |
| 32:08.38 | Max Shank | They're racists. |
| 32:22.50 | mikebledsoe | You know, hold some trials at some point down the road because of you. |
| 32:26.69 | Max Shank | It's just ah, a new agey fancy way of saying you're the devil. We don't listen to that guy at all. It's it's an ad hommonym censorship I mean it's so obvious once you filter it down to the real meaning of what's going on and if you're not even willing to have a discussion. |
| 32:32.29 | mikebledsoe | A. |
| 32:43.53 | Max Shank | And sell somebody on an idea and you have to force an idea upon someone is it really that good of an idea I mean if you need to spend billions and billions of dollars marketing your drugs are they really like all that good. You know it has no marketing for it whatsoever. Cocaine. Ecstasy marijuana psilocybin guess what people do shitloads of with no marketing whatsoever. All those things so if something is really good. People will find out about it as long as they are free to communicate. |
| 33:20.58 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, what? what were you wanting I agree what were you wanting me to explain separately. You only said right out. |
| 33:20.92 | Max Shank | Freely with one another. |
| 33:25.83 | Max Shank | Ah, okay, so decentralization of currency and banking. Let's say versus or alongside decentralization of other aspects. So let's say food. Education maybe even governance because that's ah, that's a tricky thing right? How do you? really How do you live in America without participating in America. |
| 33:54.95 | mikebledsoe | But well governance is at the core of all decentralization. So That's the that is how are we going? What are we? What are we agreeing or how are we agreeing on the decisions we're going to make as a group. You know what are the rules that we're gonna abide by what are what are our values? um. |
| 34:16.31 | Max Shank | We already have a perfect method for that. We have lobbyists who pay the politicians to decide what kind of laws they want to exercise over the people and then. Over time. The people have less and less authority over their lives. It's perfect system. |
| 34:34.63 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it works. Yeah, just shut up and go home. Don't don't go outside. Ah so the but let's talk about this so you want me to talk about currency and then talk about food as examples of this I think I think currency. |
| 34:47.94 | Max Shank | Sure just just ah, make them separate. |
| 34:54.25 | mikebledsoe | Which one should I start with the food might be make the most sense I think it's people can put their eyes on it and so decentralizing your food I'm involved in a project that is decentralizing food at this point and so um, there both. |
| 35:07.69 | Max Shank | For yourself or for lots of people. |
| 35:13.59 | mikebledsoe | So so this is what decentralization is it's about me my my objective is to create as much. Um, value for myself as possible and that is true value being ah my lifestyle. You know my my ability to critically think is valuable having a roof over my head is valuable the community I hang out with is valuable. The things that are of true value is I want to create as much value in my life. Ah as possible and. If I do that? Well enough I can then distribute some of that value outside of myself and so ah in a decentralized food network. For instance I'm gonna just give some hypotheticals because this is this is happening around. Awesome Texas right now. So some of it's hypothetical because it's in the. Plan and it hasn't completely been executed yet. But these things these are things that are in the process. So say that there's a twenty acre farm over here a sixty acre farm over here 200 over here five over here. Everybody has the ability to ah grow all sorts of stuff and. What you do is is you grow enough to where if you couldn't leave your own farm. You're good. You may not have all the shit you want. You're not going to get you know I don't I I have lamb but I don't have any beef and so and a decentralized model with food is we would then exchange. Locally with other farms now then it extends beyond that even fewer items might get exchanged between regions and we're also sharing information so we're farming in Texas someone else might be farming in Louisiana or California and we're exchanging. Not just goods and services but information as well instantly on what's working. What's not working and so in this yeah I mean we're not going to talk about economics as you know as a part of it but ah it. |
| 37:12.33 | Max Shank | Um, so it's kind of like bartering. |
| 37:24.27 | mikebledsoe | There's an so this is where I was thinking about timing money into it which is now I'm I'm like interlacing the 2 already which I didn't want to do but I was trying to stay away from that so the but I think that the the way that currency is going the decentralization decentralization of currency is making this possible. The other thing that's making this possible is daws decentralized autonomous organizations so you mentioned earlier that people need to exercise trust in order to save calories and so that's actually that's one of the big reasons that there's centralized power right now and dows actually help. Decentralized governance so daws are are basically governance models that are executed with smart contracts if this then that so right now if you and I go into a contract with each other and I say I'm gonna give you. Money for this service or whatever and then you don't do it and or or maybe you do it and I don't pay you. What's your recourse you then need to go to a court and then you need to so on and so forth. So as technology is advancing. We don't need a court to verify that something was completed or not there is there is a smart machine that is watching I mean depends on the service but but to make it easy to understand because this will extrapolate out to like farming. Um, if. You complete a project that we can track on your computer and you do it and you hit the complete button now. Automatically, the money is sent if I want to dispute it. There's really nothing I can do and that's possible because we're not using banks anymore and I'm not going to go dispute it and create a legal issue out of this. It just is and so. In the early days of dows which we're in There's going to be some stuff where people set up some rules and then they regret setting up those rules and then they're like oh we need to think this further out we didn't consider this and they're going to have to update things as they go along. It's going to become very sophisticated. And these rules aren't being drafted by lawyers lawyers are pretty much the people that are running and governing the world right now and like you were saying earlier. They use all sorts of tricky language. It doesn't make any sense to the layperson. It's very confusing and you can pretty much if you're a good lawyer. You could. And trap anybody in anything kind of like the Irs can basically you know if you follow all the rules as you see fit. You're probably going to be wrong or they could make you wrong if they really wanted to so in. |
| 40:11.22 | mikebledsoe | With dow's decentralized autonomous organizations which are run on the blockchain trust becomes unnecessary. You don't have to trust what someone says it just is um so last you there a second. How long were you gone? Okay, not not long at all. Ah, so yeah, the doubt dows are beginning to They're not going to completely eradicate the necessity for trust, but the future we won't have operating agreements in the future. |
| 00:04.83 | Max Shank | I'm back um, 3 seconds yeah |
| 40:49.56 | mikebledsoe | It'll be your business will be a dow and. |
| 00:26.10 | Max Shank | Well, it will still be an operating agreement. It'll just be executed by computer software. So it's software as a service basically which is responsible for a ton of efficiency. |
| 40:59.79 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 41:07.28 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and with the blockchain software with Blockchain is basically recorded everywhere instantly and so you can't go fuck around with it and that's what makes it where it's it's like oh people are fallible. The legal system is prone to fuckery. But. |
| 00:44.58 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 41:27.20 | mikebledsoe | Over time. The dows are going to become more and more solid more and more useful and their use cases are going to expand and so um, what I see a future where the dows we talked about this. We have the farms. We talked about this like a year ago yeah and the. |
| 01:15.78 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 41:45.78 | mikebledsoe | The currency is decentralizing the same way if I buy if I buy bitcoin but I want ethereum or you have ethereum and we want to make an exchange I can quickly and easily convert my bitcoin to ethereum and then exchange with you and then I can take. You give me ethereum and I could exchange it over to bitcoin it was it used to be.. Yeah yeah, um, and so what I see is that people will join. They'll be using so particular currencies based on their values. |
| 01:40.38 | Max Shank | Provided someone else wants what we're selling right. |
| 42:23.50 | mikebledsoe | And if I want to exchange with somebody inside my value group. We all agree that we like to farm regeneratively and so on and so forth. Yeah let's just get on the same currency. We'll make it easy. Ah, each organization has their own dow each farm has its own dow that also can. Plug into another dao and so there there can become there can become hierarchy I think there will be really cool hierarchies that are designed with das and what's gonna happen is ah I'm gonna be making this food over here and you're making your food over there and or maybe. And then another guy has a solar farm down the road and he's delivering batteries to people who don't have space for solar so you know that's the decentralization of energy and so and all this is running on 1 cryptocurrency. That are multiple daalas plugged into a greater dao and if this happens then this happens someone is signaled. Oh this guy is low on energy that this guy delivers it and then there's ah the currency you can see the current start to work there and ah a current is always moving. And so the the system we're existing in right now it can take days for money to transfer. It's it's all these weird bureaucratic administrative steps that we got to go through in order for this or that to happen accountants. And bookkeepers those jobs those are jobs of the past. Those are not gonna be They're gonna they're gonna look very different or become unnecessary. They'll be It'll be more of like a reporting thing. Um, and so. |
| 03:43.91 | Max Shank | The. |
| 44:16.47 | mikebledsoe | Because what's going to happen is. |
| 03:50.36 | Max Shank | It seems like you have more ah control over what's going on but it it seems a little bit less efficient because you don't have the same economies of scale. |
| 44:27.75 | mikebledsoe | You're not going to have the same economies of scale. Ah and well and that's not that's not necessarily. Yeah, you're not going to accumulate. It's going to reduce the amount of of Deca billionaires. |
| 04:05.67 | Max Shank | Um, it's kind of like um self-reliance. Well so I like to think in extremes. |
| 04:17.76 | Max Shank | Well, it's just going to reduce your individual efficiency. So I like to reduce things to exaggerated Exc Extreme extremes. Ah for fun and for clarity and so I think of the ultimate decentralization like we've talked about is you run your own farm. |
| 44:50.25 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 04:37.51 | Max Shank | You run your own solar farm. You have ah a plot of land on a River all your own so you can make everything you need to make but the more you are relying on yourself. You have to have less. |
| 45:23.13 | mikebledsoe | M. |
| 04:56.34 | Max Shank | Um, sophistication and complexity right? if your computer breaks down and you don't know how to fix a computer you're screwed. So What's the solution is it to learn how to fix a computer in addition to being a farmer or is it to live without a computer which ah. Is probably good in some ways and in other ways it's it's far more difficult so you just have less efficiency and less overall power. Um, if you're reliant on a smaller group so you don't have the efficiency through economies of scale. |
| 45:49.83 | mikebledsoe | Well, a lot of those things are. |
| 45:56.68 | mikebledsoe | Well, and ah if you Google decentralized network. So the the idea of decentralization that that word was made you popular in the IT community so ah now I can install a network inside of my house. It's highly decentralized. |
| 05:37.18 | Max Shank | The here. |
| 46:15.82 | mikebledsoe | And everything just flows and I can be on one side of my house and I I get perfect connectivity and I don't have to hop from router to router and all that stuff so decentralized networks. Um, the way it works is 1 thing could go down and it doesn't impact everything else. |
| 05:58.68 | Max Shank | The. |
| 46:32.84 | mikebledsoe | But everything else can pick up the slack for that 1 thing that went down so in your in your case where you're talking about the farmer whose computer breaks or whatever. He's not isolated. There are still people who are going to specialize. There are people in his community that are specialists and computers down the road and then all he has to do is flash up the bat symbol. |
| 06:06.92 | Max Shank | And. |
| 46:52.27 | mikebledsoe | And says you know I have this issue and so that's something where like we're talking about different specializations there and so you. |
| 06:27.30 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 06:34.57 | Max Shank | But that's where we get our efficiency from is through that comparative advantage.. That's why the whole concept of money in the beginning was so damn Useful. Ah, some people say money is the root of all Evil I think it's probably more greed is ah the root of some. Evil stuff that happens but the advantage of money is if you are a baker and I'm a candlestick maker and I still want bread but you don't want any candlesticks I can still get bread. |
| 47:30.49 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and so decentralization doesn't make that that makes that even more possible look. We've got billions of people on the planet. We don't need 1 manufacturer of 1 thing in order for it to be really good. There's there could be many many and. |
| 07:20.15 | Max Shank | To and and I'm not advocating for that at all that there should be like 1 1 person who makes all the food. |
| 47:49.72 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so I'm not saying we should or shouldn't but a decentralization doesn't mean that what the the main thing the benefit of the decentralization that I see is in a centralized model. We have single points of failure so you know there's 3 just as ah, ah this isn't totally accurate, but there's there's in ah in a centralized model and a centralized model like let's just assume that there's very few Usda. |
| 07:46.44 | Max Shank | Do you mean multiple points of failure in a decentralized model in a sense. Okay, got it. |
| 48:28.52 | mikebledsoe | Butchering facilities. 1 guy gets covid in one facility and now it completely stops up all operations and it breaks down the entire supply chain to where the farmer has to start euthanizing pigs because and this is this actually happened yet. These farmers have to start euhanizing pigs because the cost of keeping them. Alive isn't worth it because they got to keep feeding them. Plus they got more pigs coming. They're being grown and when a pig gets a certain age. You don't want to eat that meat anyway. So like there's like this very specific. |
| 08:18.48 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 08:26.22 | Max Shank | Wild. |
| 49:01.57 | mikebledsoe | Way of doing things and there's single points of failure in a centralized model and a decentralized model that one farmer could get I've gotten Covid and kind of fucked up. You know say he gets some some type of weird plague thing going on and and then and then the rest of it doesn't ah impact the entire. |
| 08:47.12 | Max Shank | I Totally yeah I Totally understand that I think for like. |
| 49:20.42 | mikebledsoe | Global community it impacts a very small person 1 person or very small group of people and the ability for these other ah because you're never disconnected in ah in a decentralized model. There's always interaction with the outside. It's just. |
| 08:55.98 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 49:39.60 | mikebledsoe | Just not centralized I might have instead of I always I only have a you know one way to get in that of my neighborhood I now have 20 and it take it may take me longer to get from point a to point b but I'll never get stuck in traffic. |
| 09:32.44 | Max Shank | It's kind of like insurance. It costs you more money than not having insurance unless something happens yet. |
| 50:02.92 | mikebledsoe | Setting it up is expensive. You know it's it's a time it takes time energy. Um I'm doing things with decentralized currencies decentralized food. Ah, ah, I'm talking my buddy Jesse about doing decentralized energy. He's working on that. Um, I think that's also important and so really focusing on on on getting all these things done is a huge investment of time energy money right now. But when something goes wrong. When there is when steaks are at $100 I want to go get a stak. It's me a hundred dollars because russia's not exporting the ingredients we need for fertilizer right now. Ah then I'm not going to have to pay a hundred bucks for my steak I I just go over to the farm and I pick up my food. Because I already contributed already made my thing I'm already I yeah we yeah we could we could eat steak exactly and so um, yeah, it's not cheap, but it is. |
| 10:34.62 | Max Shank | Or maybe you start selling steak and you start eating something else. |
| 10:47.40 | Max Shank | That's why I like thinking of it like insurance. Well it makes sense to me. Yeah well and you have to assign some probability of risk in your mind. |
| 51:15.31 | mikebledsoe | It is valuable. It's ah it's a you have to think further out and ahead in the future than most people are willing to do. |
| 11:00.65 | Max Shank | Like what is the probability that x will happen. What is the probability that y will happen and we talked about this in our in an earlier episode too. You have to ask yourself like what is the probability that I won't have access to food for three months six months one year and um. Everybody has a different perspective on that That's why thinking of this like insurance is helpful for me because in when times are good. It's going to be less efficient. But if there's some ah risky occurrence that happens. |
| 52:04.34 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, if something terrible happens if something if supply chains get fucked up and all that then we're living like Kings right by comparison. But here's the thing but it is already happening. |
| 11:39.10 | Max Shank | Then it's going to be well worth it. |
| 11:44.90 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 11:50.80 | Max Shank | But when it's not happening. You're not working as efficiently as you could and you're outlaying more capital to set it up. Well I mean. |
| 52:24.30 | mikebledsoe | So Here's the thing is there's canaries in the coal mine and there's very few of there's very few of us that are picking up on it I've been picking up on it for a long time Decade I Read Omnivore's dilemma and you look at that and I and I look at what's happening with the farming and I go. Yeah, I'm willing to invest a lot of energy in a farming even if nothing ever happens to the supply chain stays exactly the same I Still want to do this because ah the food that we have access to right now is not very nutrient dense and it's not it. It's already Poor. So The thing if I'm going to invest in my health then I'm going to invest in the farm If things stay the same but we all know the experts all agree and this is widely agreed upon whether you're on the left right? Whatever is. Soil is being degraded. You know there's only what 50 or 60 crops left that can be farmed on the soil the way it's being done so that every day that goes by the average nutrient nutrient density of our food. Is going down. It's going down. It's going down so I look at that and I go look even if we don't have a huge fertilizer shortage which is going to lead to skyrocketing food prices and rights in the streets and all that even if that doesn't happen I Want to do this anyway. Ah, the idea that something like that might happen definitely has spurred a little more urgency around the matter because I've been thinking about this since 2011 and it's 2022 and I'm just now getting to it because before it there was no. |
| 13:29.32 | Max Shank | Um. |
| 54:14.50 | mikebledsoe | There was no potential danger like oh this is coming now. It's just a slow trip. You know we're frogs in the boiling water. You know, just. |
| 13:56.70 | Max Shank | I think we should talk about food next week because what you're telling me now is a very different reason for decentralizing your food or ah taking more control over the lifecycle of your food and I think it's extremely valid. |
| 54:39.40 | mikebledsoe | Well, that's the case with everything that's the case with energy. That's the same with currency. It's It's not like it's not like I'm buying bitcoin or other cryptos because the dollar might fail that might cause someone to like oh fuck I need to get some now. |
| 14:15.94 | Max Shank | Because you. |
| 54:57.45 | mikebledsoe | But the reality is is we've got we've had ah you know we came off the gold standard in the 70 s and the value of the dollar is slowly degraded. It's the same thing as the food. It's just slowly happening. We're just watching it. But it's so slow that you don't notice and you don't feel the sense of urgency to make change. And so I think that I don't think we need to cover food necessarily again, but your your view of it being insurance is is that's only part of the conversation of like the benefits of decentralization. Ah, because. |
| 15:06.53 | Max Shank | The. |
| 55:35.19 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it's just I think it creates a healthier system. Overall. |
| 15:14.32 | Max Shank | And maybe not as efficient but healthier. |
| 55:44.20 | mikebledsoe | Um, I Well when you say efficient I I think I think it'll be more energy efficient Overall like right now we've got food being shipped from chile and. |
| 15:24.99 | Max Shank | Energy in versus energy out. |
| 56:03.38 | mikebledsoe | Steaks from Australia New Zealand and we're having it to make an impossible burger. You're having to get some ingredients from 20 different countries. That's highly centralized and inefficient. It's only efficient financially. It's not efficient. It's not efficient use of. |
| 15:52.74 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 56:22.19 | mikebledsoe | Oil. It's not the efficient use of people's time and huh. |
| 15:59.82 | Max Shank | But it has to be Efficient. It has to be efficient use of all those things The idea is that the amount of energy to produce it locally including everything has to be more. Than it would be to import it from somewhere else unless there's like dirty dealings or something like that. But you know if you're a company you're going to try to maximize efficiency. |
| 56:42.90 | mikebledsoe | And well well well part of it's cultural right? and part of it's cultural like it. It would be more energy efficient to get your food all locally. Um but the thing is is. You're not going to get people to farm because they expect to get more money almost everyone use 95% and now and now we got like yeah computer programmers in the city and and whatever fucking jobs are happening in the city going. Keep going back to computer programmers. |
| 16:38.41 | Max Shank | Um, well almost everybody used to be farmers and but and and and poor. |
| 57:20.94 | mikebledsoe | Only because you before the show. Ah, that's ah, that's pretty much it they like the most like the most useful people to me I Do you make shit. |
| 16:55.57 | Max Shank | Um, in our in our in our community. There's only farmers and computer programmers. You can be a farmer or a computer programmer or get the fuck out. |
| 57:40.17 | mikebledsoe | You make awesome software and can you feed me then I'll be your friend. |
| 17:19.46 | Max Shank | That does cover a tremendous amount of bases. Actually you know plumber Electrician there are other things that are similar to but you need like a tech guy and a food guy. Basically. |
| 57:48.40 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 57:55.11 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, tech guy and a food guy is it right? because that's all technology. The plumbers are you know they're working with technology. You know. |
| 17:38.60 | Max Shank | But I wouldn't trust a computer software guy to do my plumbing or the or the electrical well and that's what I mean you could figure out anything. It's ah it's so. |
| 58:07.24 | mikebledsoe | No no could I figure it out. |
| 17:57.48 | Max Shank | Amazing to be able to exercise the benefit of comparative advantage in a community whether that community is large or small. The reason for currency is so you don't have to rely on the barter system which necessitates that you have something the other guy wants. |
| 58:41.37 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 18:17.80 | Max Shank | And you want something of his so I definitely agree with you. The quality of food is questionable in a lot of places and inflation is a very sinister tax that is hidden and really. Fucks The bottom percentage of the population the worst. Ah by far. So ah, you know I try not to think in good and evil but that shit's pretty fucking evil. |
| 59:03.23 | mikebledsoe | Totally, it's like the ah. Ah I saw was I saw a meme a few weeks ago that was like Biden saying we're not gonna tax the poor rolling in tax the rich and then they print off a shitload of money. It's like yeah a fucking snake. Um, but here's something we haven't talked about but. |
| 19:01.42 | Max Shank | Um, yeah, it's yeah, inflation's not good. |
| 59:30.78 | mikebledsoe | that I that I've begun to experience and I think we both kind of do this is neither one of us optimize for finances. We really value happiness and connection and. Like was it ah a year ago or more you took a lot of time off of Instagram you said? Yeah I'll make a little less money. Yeah I'll make a little less money but you know it's not worth my happiness. |
| 19:31.66 | Max Shank | Yeah, like 2 years but if I hadn't prioritized but if I hadn't prioritized wealth before that I wouldn't have been in that position to do it either. |
| 01:00:07.23 | mikebledsoe | Totally yeah you you thought I had Yeah, that's maybe to have I mean to have the same exact lifestyle you have then sure. But when I think about. |
| 19:51.20 | Max Shank | If money is the goal then I think you're missing the point I think if freedom is the goal then money is a good tool for that. Just like exercise and language are good tools that can facilitate freedom. |
| 01:00:30.71 | mikebledsoe | Well I think people people do get caught up on the money equals freedom piece and the truth is is that if I took away all your money could you still be free for sure. Yeah, but you it doesn't. |
| 20:18.16 | Max Shank | Yeah, free to sleep in the gutter until I figured things out. No, you'd figure it out. Yeah you I would figure it out I will say this though. Ah because I don't want to sound like ah super asinine I mean the reality is. |
| 01:00:49.30 | mikebledsoe | But not the same thing. Yeah freedom is freedom and money is money. |
| 20:38.80 | Max Shank | Money won't solve all your problems but it will solve many of them instantly that a poor person might agonize over. Ah you won't necessarily be happier. What's that. |
| 01:01:07.65 | mikebledsoe | totally totally I'm not saying I solve problems. Well they that they've they've done studies where more money this is I mean the studies over a decade old. So the numbers may seem a little small, especially with inflation. But they said that? Ah what they looked at was getting a pay raise making more money actually increased people's happiness up to $75000 after $75000 no change in happiness happiness didn't go up. But it it did actually tend to go down a little bit and so yeah, there's in seventy five Thousand ten fifteen years ago it's pretty much talking about Maslow's hierarchy of needs is you have all those things you're experiencing some safe you probably can afford a home in a place where you feel. Ah, somewhat safe. You have a shelter you're able to eat food and whatever so 75 hours after that no more but I bring up the happiness thing because do we really need to. Keep on going down the path of ah, having more and more specialization advancing technology and innovation and all this stuff that is happening at at a very fast rate with the centralization of power and by the way it actually might advance more quickly in a decentralized model. If we look at open source software. That's ah, that's a good example of of ah of a decentralized system where there are a lot of people contributing separately and doing their own experiments but like I use an operating system on my phone that is. Much more secure and a lot more advanced than ah than Android you know it it utilizes android but this company that created the operating system I use. It's open source people are contributing to it from all over the world for free and then Android then later adopts it. And then everyone else gets it because it was the the advancements are being made in ah in a decentralized model but going back to the happiness piece is you know I could have a shitload of money I could be flying in private jets to my 5 different homes around the world and all that but also which. |
| 22:57.26 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:03:41.20 | mikebledsoe | I Could still do in a decentralized model that type Lifestyle doesn't completely go away there. But if I say hey I'm gonna take a pay cut and I'm going to live more simply and I'm gonna spend more time on the farm and I'm gonna and I'm gonna do more varied Activities. So this past weekend I did a little bit of gardening I did some work on the house I did some home improvement stuff hung out with a friend of mine to do all of it and I felt incredibly happy and incredibly wealthy. Um in that space. But if I. |
| 23:48.29 | Max Shank | Sounds like that's going to really interfere with your hustling and grinding though and you're giving 110 I I think it's good. You bring that up too because not only are people poisoned by the news but they're poisoned by. |
| 01:04:22.21 | mikebledsoe | That's right. |
| 24:08.26 | Max Shank | The false idols of culture in general. So people chase things that they are made to believe will bring them satisfaction and and then I'll be happy if I if I get blank then I'll be happy if I do blank then I'll be happy. And the reality is people are are different I know that's an outlandish thing to say people are different but we are and people have different wants and desires for a lot of different reasons. We have different upbringings and who's to say. That you're better off working at something you hate for 20 years so you can retire before you're 40 or doing something that you just purely enjoyed doing because you would do it anyway and making enough money but working until you're 80 years old ah, and there's not a right answer to that we want to especially the guru types and the leader types they want to say this is this is the way but it's like is it really the way like I don't know for you. Man. |
| 01:05:44.31 | mikebledsoe | By the way max and I are coming out with a product. It's called the way. |
| 25:25.74 | Max Shank | This is called this is the way do it or else. |
| 01:05:53.49 | mikebledsoe | Ah I think you brought up an interesting thing is because a lot of what people desire is based on what they seen on media right? No one knew that they wanted that car or this or that and so I mean if we go far enough back and. |
| 25:45.74 | Max Shank | It's all about sex people look. It's food and survival and then it's sex and sex is directly proportional to your position in the hierarchy and Ferrari's and glittery tits are the new currency. |
| 01:06:26.63 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, totally now if we look at the influencer culture and so we go on Instagram and we look at ah, what's his name ty lopez and. |
| 26:00.63 | Max Shank | For your position in the hierarchy. It's all this stuff is deeper than language. |
| 26:09.98 | Max Shank | The. |
| 01:06:41.83 | mikebledsoe | You know he's got the lamborghinis and the books and he's got this lifestyle thing going on all the glitzing lamb a lot of that was a lot of that was based off of hollywood so like people saw hollywood stars and people wanted to be like the the actctors and actresses back when you know television. And movie stars were the only influencers you know the I think you heard about that on that that podcast that we both listened to you talked about? Ah, there was only like 5 influencers in the world that that back in the 50 s or whatever it was or 60 s. And then yeah, yeah, like there's only a handful people that are known by millions or billions of people and now there's a shitload of people that are known by so many people and the influencers have become decentralized one. |
| 26:54.66 | Max Shank | When we were talking about like Elvis I think right? Yeah right. |
| 01:07:38.70 | mikebledsoe | We added channels to the television. You know we went from print media to video media audio video then it was internet Instagram Youtube and now there's there's more influencers than we can count and so that's decentralized so I think that. In the centralization of influencer culture. There was only a few ways to live your life. You saw their lifestyle on you know the lifestyles of the rich and famous and you go oh I want to have that mansion in that pool and all this but now like I talk to a lot of people that are my age and younger. And they look at that kind of stuff and they just kind of go hey and there's definitely ah, a lot of young people that are doing the glitz and glam and all that. But it's it's becoming less popular and it's actually made fun of a whole lot. It's the. They become comical means it's like yeah that is true, but everything's decentralizing. So now I you know I may follow some influencers that I like that that share my own values and so I think we're gonna see um where I think we're gonna see a lot healthier. Social environment with the decentralization of the influencers as well because I think where I think we've had to go through a point where everyone realizes oh I can be an influencer and they become extremely egotistical and it becomes it's not. |
| 28:39.42 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:09:08.99 | mikebledsoe | It's such a weird thing and I I think that a lot of people got fucked up by that in the last decade but I think on the other side of that. It's growing pains on the other side of that everyone kind of goes. Oh yeah, everyone's connected to everybody and everybody's unique and I don't need to be like anybody else or. You know I want to I want to be a part of this crew over here I don't need to to try to kill myself to live up to some fake standard that I'm noticing over here. So I think that with with well with tech. Well but what one of the things that technology is really doing and ah. |
| 29:11.38 | Max Shank | I Hope people are thinking that way that sounds awesome. |
| 01:09:46.92 | mikebledsoe | Bitcoin's a good example of this is transparency is you can see all the transactions between all the wallets anytime you want and so the well I mean my only my email is tied to my my wallet. |
| 29:24.13 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 29:32.34 | Max Shank | Doesn't leave much for privacy though. But that's okay I guess. |
| 01:10:05.97 | mikebledsoe | So you wouldn't really be able to figure out who I was if I didn't want to be found Um, ah and you guessed it. Ah so but um. |
| 29:45.34 | Max Shank | Mike Underscore blood so at Gmail I wonder who this is. |
| 29:53.82 | Max Shank | Who could this possibly be. |
| 01:10:21.26 | mikebledsoe | The thing is is we've had an incredible level of transparency in our culture but it's been one-sided Only only intelligence agencies were allowed to have ultimate ah transparency you know there's anyone can go look at any my shit. |
| 30:10.19 | Max Shank | M. |
| 01:10:39.32 | mikebledsoe | I mean if they want to be in my computer and my phone right now they can do it and there's nothing I can do about it and they want to freeze my bank account they can freeze my bank account. They want to look at my books they can look at my but they can do whatever they want we already have it's ah I think it's a Peter Diamandas ah is like. |
| 30:17.90 | Max Shank | Um, amazing wild gnarly. The power of the stick. |
| 01:10:58.16 | mikebledsoe | Like the future is already here. It's just not widely distributed yet or maybe that's a occurs while and and the same thing happens with transparency transparent 100% pure transparency already exists. You're already being watched if they want to watch you. |
| 30:36.70 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 01:11:17.13 | mikebledsoe | They're already collecting the data the shit is there now it just needs to be widely distributed because the benefit of this massive transparency. That's coming is the transparency will start going both ways. So the. I think Snowden was one of these guys that that started this is people like oh I think we need more to have more transparency with the intelligence agencies. Let's see about that. Where's the money flowing. Well if they don't control the currency anymore we can start seeing where the money flows at a governmental level. Okay. Things all of a sudden become very unpopular when we can start seeing how money is flowing all over the world and it's not hidden or being mislabeled or whatever it is so it's it's one it's one of those things. It's kind of like. I really enjoy my privacy I'm gonna do my best to maintain it and I would rather live in a world where everything was 100% transparent than 100% ah than ah well I'd rather be in 100% private but we can't. We can't put pandawar back in the box right? and the yeah so it's like the the next best thing is for it to be a 2 wo-way street is that there's ultimate transparency. |
| 32:09.89 | Max Shank | In a lot of ways That's true. |
| 32:18.86 | Max Shank | I think that's an important thing to remember with everything that we're talking about is there is no ultimate final best solution except for except for live and let live and I don't mean final solution like final solution. Ah, that that phrase is not cool anymore after that 1 german guy. But just you you don't know ah hit Hitler. You remember that guy. |
| 01:13:07.87 | mikebledsoe | I Don't know what you're talking about no fill me in how yeah I heard about him. |
| 32:55.78 | Max Shank | Yeah, his final solution was to kill all the non Aryans now I never thought that was a good idea and fortunately a lot of other folks also did not think that was a good idea. But ah anyway, my point is. |
| 01:13:23.71 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 01:13:35.80 | mikebledsoe | How does have to do with live and let live. |
| 33:13.42 | Max Shank | There is not well what I'm saying is live and let live is a really good way to live but everything we're talking about. It's just searching for a marginally better way if you spend your whole life looking for the ultimate Best way to live. |
| 01:13:50.53 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 33:32.47 | Max Shank | You probably won't spend your life living and doing things that bring you joy I mean I'm a very contemplative guy. Personally I find it really fun to just sit and think about things and sketch stuff down. |
| 01:13:59.91 | mikebledsoe | Dude, it's gonna suck. |
| 33:51.68 | Max Shank | That no other human will ever see because it's way too outrageous and I find I find that I find that super interesting. It's It's a fun game. Ah I also like to play tennis and dojujitsu and things like that where I'm not living in my head and I'm just in that flow state. |
| 01:14:25.00 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 34:11.38 | Max Shank | Um, but if you spend all time analyzing like am I living the best way possible am I living the most secure way possible. That's it's kind of like buying fire insurance. But then agonizing over whether or not your house is going to burn every single day. |
| 01:14:53.14 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 34:30.79 | Max Shank | It's like checking the value of your home every day. It's like checking the value I mean it's just like ah it's ah, electing to give yourself some sort of schizophrenia. Basically it's It's not a really healthy way to live The reason we're talking about this stuff is. I Think to give you some sort of understanding of how things are and maybe how things are becoming and how to make yourself as free as possible as these things change. You know I. Have enjoyed this conversation so far a lot because I'm ah kind of an Assholeish Devil's advocate if I don't understand something I will just ask the most poignant autistic question Possible. So It's a lot of fun because I know that. |
| 01:15:46.12 | mikebledsoe | Perfect. |
| 35:26.63 | Max Shank | You won't take it personally and it's also a topic that I I really haven't been able to grasp very well. Um I understand how you can I don't know actually because um. |
| 01:15:59.99 | mikebledsoe | You do you understand it better today. |
| 35:46.31 | Max Shank | The the main thing I don't understand is what the staying power of different cryptocurrencies is I understand the value of ah autonomous contracts. Basically. |
| 01:16:19.28 | mikebledsoe | I Got you. |
| 01:16:27.29 | mikebledsoe | Oh. |
| 36:05.10 | Max Shank | So like basically you have software and an escrow account like you know I lend you ah x amount of dollars you put y amount of dollars in an escrow account if you don't pay your payment I automatically draw on your thing that part makes sense. It's. Kind of like software as a service. what ah what I don't understand is how to value a cryptocurrency relative to another cryptocurrency or relative to the dollar. Um, but I also ah don't like the idea that. More can be printed any old time. So that's why so far I've focused on investing in companies that create a profit because it it doesn't really matter what currency they're dealing in. As long as there's more energy coming out than there is coming in and that's easier for me to understand whereas if you ask me how much f will be worth in two years I don't know if the answer is 20000 or or 0. |
| 01:17:41.47 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 37:18.80 | Max Shank | Quite frankly and and I can't understand how someone would be able to know that. |
| 01:17:46.24 | mikebledsoe | Man, there's um, there's a lot there I'm glad I'm glad that I'm glad you explained all that. So. Um, so the idea that that our entire lives from the earliest memory that we can before we understood value. We had made. We made something mean about money and for us american and probably people around the world I mean even if you're born in Mexico it's the dollar you know like the peso versus the dollar but our entire reality has formed around the dollar. So the dollar has behaved a very specific way. It's had its It's been consistent in our consciousness you know in different ways for different people. But I think that what we're gonna end up experiencing is it's a paradigm shift and so there's ah in in like all good paradigm shifts explaining. It is practically impossible. It's something that. I I think that for me. Ah what I've had to do is I've dug so much into all the different information I I look at how it works I've seen how it's behaved I look at the patterns and my I've loosened up my mind around the dollar being. The thing that everything else is compared against and it is um I mean I think we talked about this in the last year or 2 is like I've had a hard time going. Okay, we're not comparing things if we don't have a standard currency then man it's just going to be chaos. Really won't work. People are looking for stability. Um, so I think there's an opportunity for a paradigm shift around there being a single currency. Um, there's also people who were trying to There's a there's a gold backed cryptocurrency like ah you know a coin. Is an ounce isn't you know that's what it is it just is and when you when when you trade it there are your reserves of gold are somewhere and if you want it in your hand you can you know you could figure that out so there are things like that happening um a lot of people think and i. I tend to agree that bitcoin may end up being the like the reserve currency. Um, it's definitely a currency that now there's times that I believe that it won't be able to exchange in high volumes and that. |
| 40:00.40 | Max Shank | Definitely maybe. |
| 01:20:28.51 | mikebledsoe | It's expensive to trade and so only the wealthy will hold it so like like the classes of people will actually divide up based on part of it. It would would be like you know it's it's expensive to buy an Nft with ethereum compared to Mineero. For instance because the gas fees are higher so they basically train like ah like a transaction fee and so um, people will kind of like put themselves. They'll use currency that makes sense to them and they'll. |
| 40:28.70 | Max Shank | A. |
| 01:21:05.57 | mikebledsoe | Be a little bit of a hierarchy that starts there. Um, but I mean in the end the the law of economic like when the primary laws of economics with supply and demand is really how it's going to go is what's the supply of it and what's the demand of it and enough people agree to be using a particular currency. It's going to cause it to do that and. I think it's going to take some Ai technology for us to that's the paradigm shift is it more likely is it's there's going to be a machine that can compute at high enough speeds that just kind of says that this much bitcoin is worth this much. Ethereum is. This much monro and whatever you're holding and you want to make an exchange it. We're gonna we're gonna make it work and I know that there's companies that are already working on that. Um, and you know there's this really cool sign here in Austin because I'm in like. Crypto land here right? So it's well they just had the bitcoin conference last weekend I had a few friends there and other yeah. |
| 41:38.32 | Max Shank | Here. It's even crazier in Miami and Florida yeah, don't get me wrong I love I love the idea of a decentralized currency that's based on demand and not based on. Ah. |
| 01:22:22.79 | mikebledsoe | Right? Yeah I mean as long as the authorities control that as long as people put their faith in the authorities more than they do and people then we have problems but there's a sign in Austin. |
| 41:58.29 | Max Shank | Blind faith in an Authority's ability to control their money printing and their grubby hands. |
| 42:14.29 | Max Shank | Ideologically I'm like a hundred but percent bought in already with that idea. |
| 01:22:43.79 | mikebledsoe | there's there's well There's this there's this one company that keeps on putting up signs in Austin they're black signs with white letters. It's always I I forget the name of the website but 1 is bitcoin bitcoin is a revolution. Ah. |
| 42:28.22 | Max Shank | Bad marketing. |
| 01:22:59.74 | mikebledsoe | Hiding in plain sight. There's another one that's ah ah bitcoin isn't and is not an investment. It's a vote and then um. |
| 42:45.30 | Max Shank | Now that that part I understand because one of my strongest beliefs is that you vote with your dollars and you vote with your attention. Basically. |
| 01:23:18.68 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and then another sign is ah cryptocurrencies are ah is a rev cryptocurrencies something like that is a revolution disguised as a casino and so yeah. |
| 43:09.64 | Max Shank | Ah, that's one. |
| 01:23:37.48 | mikebledsoe | And so and and I think that all of those are clever and accurate. You know people are in there trading and getting in there and and they're excited about it's new technology. There's an opportunity to make shit tons of money if you want and not necessary. Well. |
| 43:26.44 | Max Shank | As long as you're in there early. |
| 01:23:56.13 | mikebledsoe | But earlier the better 100% about that. You know the best time to grow you know plant a tree was twenty years ago might as well hop in now and ah and and currencies is just one piece of this we have dows we have Nftts I've been learning a little more about Nftts recently. |
| 43:31.63 | Max Shank | There. Okay. |
| 01:24:15.91 | mikebledsoe | And well the Nft world is really you know what's getting a lot of the attention is the art but I can Nft my property and so now the the government so the the government ah holds the deed to the house right? They they. |
| 43:50.97 | Max Shank | Oh god. |
| 01:24:35.85 | mikebledsoe | Keep the the ledger and all that shit somewhere and they give me a copy of my deed and then ah but the Catholic Church used to do that and then the government took over that function because someone had to do it and they they have more power and now it's gonna become. Ah. It's because the deed and the recording of of assets is usually handled by the government if you buy a car they want your title if you own you know they give you your registration. They're going to handle the deed to your house I can nft my property. |
| 44:41.96 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 01:25:14.35 | mikebledsoe | And I can sell it to you and the smart contract says well when max sends this money here then this triggers that he gets this nft there and then it's recorded on the blockchain and it's inarguable and so the we just killed a ton of. Administrative load I mean it took me thirty days to close on my fucking house. It should take 1 and or maybe 5 you know you want to get your inspections and all that shit. But the majority of those. Yeah no shit. |
| 45:15.22 | Max Shank | Um, well look otherwise what are what are those realtors going to do otherwise though come on what about the poor realtors Mike that's not cool. Dude if they could. |
| 01:25:51.50 | mikebledsoe | Ah, ah, the realtors is oh the realtors are still be employed. No you think so I know I know I know a handful of realtors. They love their shit. They love putting people on homes. |
| 45:32.10 | Max Shank | Do something else. They would be doing that I don't know I just like to make fun of realtors. No being a realtor is an amazing gig in terms of the ridiculous commission that you can get on a house it. It makes no sense whatsoever. Um. |
| 01:26:10.46 | mikebledsoe | Oh yeah. |
| 45:52.10 | Max Shank | But just to clarify I think the idea of voting with your dollars resonates with me the most and that's why I like to let markets decide instead of people that's that's why I don't like the way democracy works because. It's basically glorified mob rule right? If 51 % of us vote to rape the other forty nine then it's perfectly legal but voting with your dollars requires that both parties of every transaction gain a profit from it. And there's no coercion involved so in that regard I think vote with your dollars and then investing in a certain currency because you ah believe in it like you vote with your dollars by investing into this currency because you believe in it I think that's totally valid. Still don't know how to value it relative to other things. But I think just fundamentally and philosophically voting with your dollars and voting with your attention is maybe the best advice to give anyone because then you also won't get caught. |
| 01:27:20.81 | mikebledsoe | Um, I think if you were to. |
| 47:08.46 | Max Shank | And this idea where you think like oh this is a good Politician and this is a bad politician. It's like no forget about it vote with your dollars invest in yourself and invest your attention in things that you ah want to absorb because you will be absorbing them kind of like you said you follow. |
| 01:27:40.24 | mikebledsoe | Um, yeah. |
| 47:28.12 | Max Shank | Certain Gurus Um, the internet is a tool cell phone is a tool social media can be a tool or it can be a poison and whatever you're paying attention to you're gonna. Absorb that you're basically downloading information into your brain So be really mindful of how you're investing your dollars and attention. |
| 01:28:15.49 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, and go check out. Um, if you one of the things that things started stopped being so mysterious when I went and read some white papers. You know, pick out a few different. Cryptocurrencies If if you want to look at something that is somewhat difficult to buy you have to jump through some hoops. Um, you know I would say Theta is something that's extremely useful that is that not only will your. |
| 48:08.80 | Max Shank | And. |
| 01:28:50.26 | mikebledsoe | You have an opportunity for the coins you hold to increase in value but will actually give you cash flow as well. The more that the service is used so the current all these currencies are tied to real business services. Most of them are actually um and so. Ah, theta being one of these is it's a video streaming service and they're getting companies like Youtube netflix a lot all these streaming services are getting on board. |
| 48:57.10 | Max Shank | Is it like buying shares in that company basically but using the coins as an avenue to do that. |
| 01:29:27.23 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so you could do that or you could do ah you could also run a node which would then earn you fuel. Yeah kind of like a miner so you'd be contributing to the network with your own resources and there's there's. |
| 49:11.32 | Max Shank | Like being a minor. Yeah. |
| 01:29:46.35 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's ways to be involved and yeah, part of it is like owning stock like it's the future stock market you know Apple should have a coin. You know you want to. It's just just new rules. New rules are that same same game and which does change the game cause. |
| 49:22.35 | Max Shank | F. |
| 49:33.60 | Max Shank | Um, yeah. |
| 01:30:04.78 | mikebledsoe | Game is pretty much defined by the rules. But. |
| 49:40.44 | Max Shank | Well, you got me convinced I just invested my retirement into Nfts is that what I was supposed to do. |
| 01:30:11.55 | mikebledsoe | I wouldn't take all of it and do that. But um I I did just I cashed out the last of my stocks last week I hold nothing but ah, the only thing I'm interested is crypto real estate and startups. So I. |
| 49:50.71 | Max Shank | I can't help poking fun because I just don't understand well enough. Oh. |
| 01:30:31.30 | mikebledsoe | I own stock I own stock in a few companies that are startups I don't not stock market. So I basically pulled my money out of the stock market 100% so I don't have a retirement fund anymore. Um, and because I mean the only benefit retirement funds is I mean there's a couple of benefits depending on which way have but like. |
| 50:09.90 | Max Shank | E O E E. |
| 50:22.73 | Max Shank | Taxes Primarily who. |
| 01:30:50.59 | mikebledsoe | Taxes is the main thing and and there is a reduction if you're doing like a life insurance policy on you know how much loss you might endear. But the. |
| 50:35.86 | Max Shank | Just a reminder to our listeners. This is not financial advice in any way. |
| 01:31:04.33 | mikebledsoe | No, not none whatsoever. We're not financial experts we ah you know I just I have fun with my money. But yeah I've I've made I've invested. That's why I buy fun. |
| 50:55.75 | Max Shank | That's why you buy funny money. |
| 01:31:23.99 | mikebledsoe | But yeah I like startups in crypto the most and then you know real estate's the least sexy but I think the most important asset anyone could ever own. |
| 51:10.72 | Max Shank | Yeah, you gotta live somewhere and there's built in scarcity just follow the 3 rules of real estate location, location location and someone's always gonna want to live there. |
| 01:31:45.30 | mikebledsoe | True that true dot let's wrap this bad boy up and we we went hard today. The final thoughts max were you aggressive or was high aggressive or were we aggressive. |
| 51:30.54 | Max Shank | Ah, it was aggressive. Um. No, the topic is um, very uncertain and because I don't understand it I feel like I just kept asking a lot of questions which is is cool. Ah, but I still. |
| 01:32:08.19 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 51:55.59 | Max Shank | You know there's a difference between understanding and explanation versus having conviction in the idea enough to bet and I think that's something um that you learn I mean life is a bunch of bets Poker is bets investing is making bets. |
| 01:32:24.64 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 52:15.49 | Max Shank | And if you don't have the conviction to bet you really don't have any conviction at All. So The proof is in the pudding for you because clearly you are putting your money where your mouth is and that's why all these phrases have lasted the test of time right? So I think you got to vote with your dollars. You got to put your money where your mouth is and ideally you want to invest in things that you understand. So if you understand them. Ah just because I don't that that doesn't matter. |
| 01:33:08.80 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, and I think the the one of the thing when I think about you're talking about conviction and the word that I was thinking of was like oh maybe you know I think this is how I see it is groking it that is I ah. When I grok a topic is I surround it I look at it from as many angles as possible. There's a shitload of data collection going on tons of research and it's just question question question question and then when I grok something one day it occurs to me I go. |
| 53:08.13 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 01:33:46.63 | mikebledsoe | And this happened to me in 2017 it's like oh we want you to talk on a panel about decentralization I was like well I guess I'd better. Go learn about crypto so early Twenty seventeen before that when I caught a really big upswing I started researching it in a few months into researching and I go it hit me I got the. |
| 53:26.54 | Max Shank | So. |
| 01:34:04.78 | mikebledsoe | Hit that grot point where I go I get this as like oh this is the future I should buy some now but and I did and I ended up making like $30000 in less than a year from like ah. |
| 53:40.54 | Max Shank | The. |
| 01:34:23.53 | mikebledsoe | Mean I think I may put like four or $5000 in total and the. |
| 54:02.91 | Max Shank | 6 x in a year is historically an incredible investment. |
| 01:34:31.72 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah I couldn't get that anywhere else I'm like I'm looking around I'm like I didn't do that in my own business. |
| 54:12.78 | Max Shank | Well, you could you could get it somewhere else, but it's just hard to know ahead of time. That's the thing there are lots of places you could get it Well I mean there are companies you can invest in that will do that. But it's just hard to know ahead of time. |
| 01:34:43.40 | mikebledsoe | Um, you can get it at the casino. Yeah, but totally totally totally. So um, so yeah I I like to when when something piques my interest. |
| 54:30.72 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 01:35:02.12 | mikebledsoe | I Like to just say I want to Grot this and that means that I can I can stabilize a perspective around this I don't actually need to know everything about it because I understand the the philosophy I Understand. The the big picture how it works and then as I learn more information and I just get more and more confirmation like oh I learned this small detail about this cryptocurrency. You know that validates how I understand crypto and I keep getting upgrades to that that understanding something comes in I go. Oh you know what I didn't even know that that was possible but in the thing is the I've collected a lot of evidence. Of course you know we're all subject to the particular activating system and so. |
| 55:30.32 | Max Shank | Is that confirmation bias that you're talking about okay reticular activating system I learned so many new words when I talk with you new many new words and phrases. |
| 01:35:58.00 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, kind of yeah so you buy a red car and now you see red cars everywhere. Um, yeah, a s.. Ah yeah, there's been yeah. |
| 55:48.24 | Max Shank | I Think you hit something really good there though which was you're interested and if you're interested in some I mean look I've done pretty well for myself. But the reality is I was just more interested in the topic than almost anybody else. It's kind of like cheating it's like ah the idea of what's what's difficult. |
| 01:36:25.75 | mikebledsoe | That's true. |
| 01:36:33.72 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 56:08.10 | Max Shank | Well difficult is anything I don't want to do. But if I'm if I'm willing to happily spend hours and hour hours and hour hours a day learning ah about movement and exercise and psychology and copywriting then I'm going to. |
| 01:36:53.94 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, that makes me think about ah is it not being fair people look at other people and go. They're so good at thing it's not fair. It's like you're just not as interested. What are you interested in. You need to go be unfair somewhere else. |
| 56:27.25 | Max Shank | Completely dominate someone who is just trying to do that to earn a buck. It's not fair. So if you're interested follow that. |
| 56:41.85 | Max Shank | Um, yeah, right? Yeah I when I'm playing games I like to I like to play games where the odds are stacked against me. But when I'm in real life. |
| 01:37:11.83 | mikebledsoe | Or maybe they've just been out the thing you're interested in longer that could also be. |
| 01:37:25.88 | mikebledsoe | Totally yeah I was talking to a regenerative farmer. He says ah just always trying to increase hammock time. But if I can make my garden grove I can make the farm work for me. |
| 56:59.93 | Max Shank | I try to only play games where I have an unfair advantage because you you can You can do that. |
| 01:37:45.70 | mikebledsoe | Where you know I think a lot of people think look at something like that and they think about all the hard work That's gonna have to go into It's like now you set it up and you hamicck time permaculture. You know certain farming methods are built that way. Alright, ah the only thing I've gotta say to wrap this bad boy up. |
| 57:28.18 | Max Shank | E. |
| 01:38:04.76 | mikebledsoe | Is invest your attention into things that are decentralizing and learn about it because I think this is my belief and so you can just if you want to adopt my beliefs which you know when people do good things happen. Ah. The I. |
| 58:00.21 | Max Shank | You seem so down man I feel like I broke you what happened here. He's like I guess just ah, invest in things you like? ah. |
| 01:38:30.10 | mikebledsoe | Ah I'm um'm um well I'm is well this is my way of like not trying to be overly influential is my way of like it's kind of it's my energetic way of going you know, take it or leave it but it is a good idea looking at what. |
| 58:20.41 | Max Shank | Um, ah. |
| 01:38:49.60 | mikebledsoe | What's happening in decentralization when it comes to food energy money and governance and when you look at all these things and you can understand them if you get in on you if you catch the wave that's coming then life's gonna be pretty good for you. You have opportunity to. For it to be pretty awesome if you resist it and you don't want to be a part of it and you just want to keep watching the news and you want to just and put as much money into the Ira as possible so that your company matches it doing the job you hate then. |
| 58:43.83 | Max Shank | All right. |
| 01:39:26.86 | mikebledsoe | You know I think I think life's gonna suck. But you know I'm just trying to convince you to do things from a perspective I'm holding. |
| 59:12.40 | Max Shank | All right? Well I'm gonna go the exact opposite way I'm not goingnna be not going to be wishywashy about it at all I'm gonna say that if you go to http://macank.com/pass I have a new course coming out. |
| 01:39:42.76 | mikebledsoe | Are a. |
| 59:29.72 | Max Shank | Specifically for coaches. But Also if you want to be the best training partner possible been working on this for a couple years I think it's a real revolution in personal training and just movement coaching and communication in General. Ah. Limited space available http://macshank.com/pass.. It'll be more than worth money more than worth your time and if you are a fitness professional. It's a way better investment than anything Else. You could make. |
| 01:40:27.75 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I heard that I heard that your program is like the it's basically the the decentralized training system. You know so definitely go check it out. Folks. Ah, one thing I do want to mention is I will be at paleo effects at the end of the month they have not run their event in 2 years and every year that I've been before it feels like a family reunion. It's just so sweet. So I'll be there I'll be speaking on stage I'll be on a couple of panels I got a booth there. We're gonna be hanging out. There's parties every night I highly recommend. Go to I got a link somewhere if you want it if you want me to make money off this thing shoot me a Dm and then I'll send you a link if you don't give a fuck about this and and you just want to buy your ticket then just go to http://paleofx.com and get a ticket and then I'll give you a high 5 either way. Later Max love you |
| 01:01:00.49 | Max Shank | Love you bye. |
| 00:00.00 | mikebledsoe | Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're gonna be talking about ancient wisdom with modern technology because if you don't hold both of these at the same time really well in the year Twenty Twenty Two you're probably gonna have a hard. Time thanks for joining us max. |
| 00:22.25 | Max Shank | Well, thanks for having me in the year Twenty Twenty two since we started counting because if you look at how long homo sapiens have been in this current form. We've been around a really long time and depend to you ask. Roughly two hundred thousand years does that sound correct to you I believe as homo sapiens. Okay, so it's ah it's really hard to actually imagine timelines that long it's. |
| 00:46.53 | mikebledsoe | Ah sure why not? That's what they said on Discovery channel. |
| 00:59.40 | Max Shank | Almost impossible to truly hold in your mind. The fact that ancient egypt was 3 to eight thousand years ago 3 to seven thousand years ago and what's interesting is a lot of the questions that people ask today and a lot of the. Ideas that people feel are unique Today have been asked and answered thousands and thousands of times both spoken and written over the years and I think considering a the fact that we are animals. Who basically look for survival sex and supremacy more or less in that order even without the spoken and written word is an important foundational point for this so human nature which is really animal nature has not. |
| 01:50.34 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 01:55.91 | Max Shank | Changed really at all in thousands and thousands tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of years but the technology has changed dramatically in that amount of time. |
| 02:09.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, it's um I as we start talking about this I think about there's a ah 30 hour presentation on Youtube by John Vervaki Dr. john vervaki and it's called awakening from the meaning crisis Highly recommend it if you're a philosophical nerd. You're going to love it. Um, and so what he does is he walks you through the stages of human consciousness and really ah you know. Our written history is very short compared to that 200000 year span that max is just talking about and he basically is able to start ah a in-depth conversation about the development of consciousness with the jewish people. Hebrew people and then how it then makes it over to the greeks and the the way the greeks start making sense of things and I but I believe there was either socrates or aristotle who started talking about what makes us. Human is our ability to use logic and to be able to plan ahead of time to be human is to be rational and that is to have that self-awareness and then ask questions and to develop. Wisdom your job as a human being if you want to become more human he talks about developing wisdom which we're going to get into and also getting in greater touch greater contact with reality and in order to develop wisdom. You have to get into greater contact. With reality and so ah in in order to get in greater contact. We have to become more accurate with what is and this is why max and I get really likely notice that we get really deep into semantics because. Words matter because ah, each word creates a distinction of reality you know and if you have a limited vocabulary your ability to interact with other humans in a way and and with your own mind in a way that puts you in touch with reality can become very very difficult. So um. |
| 04:38.86 | Max Shank | Well not only that not only that but the content of your thoughts determines your reality big time. |
| 04:40.41 | mikebledsoe | I Think about. |
| 04:46.19 | mikebledsoe | Absolutely yeah, you're you're projecting most of what's going on in what you would consider your reality as a projection of of the mind. Um, that's why 2 people can be sitting at the same event and. Have a completely different reporting of those events happens all the time in courtrooms and and then if we're if we're talking about anything beyond the current moment if we're talking about the past there has been a lot of research to show that people. Remember things. Not only do they remember things differently from person to person but they remember them differently over time and one of the studies that really stand out to me in regard to this is they did ah they researched people's ability to what did they report to the police. Ah, right? after a crime versus what did they say once they got on the stand and and then also what kind of impact did the questions that the police officers were asking the people how does that impact their memory of it and so. |
| 05:53.99 | Max Shank | The. |
| 06:02.50 | mikebledsoe | Um, I'm very wary of relying on my own memory or other people's memories to ah in order to be in contact with reality because I know that that simply may not be the case. Um, and so. Man Why am I talking about memories. Yeah, your your perception does does create a reality and how you remember things in the past paint how you're gonna behave now and so ah. |
| 06:32.81 | Max Shank | Well I meant from a very practical standpoint. It started with it. It started with semantics right? And the reason we go through these semantics so much is if you hold the word depressed. |
| 06:39.30 | mikebledsoe | Yes, yes. |
| 06:50.10 | Max Shank | In your mind as meaning a certain thing or even worse as something with a very nebulous meaning you might attach a certain word to your identity and there will be a domino effect to your entire psyche which is going to have a domino effect to your entire life and so just. Being able to ah clean, the slate and have ah an emptiness that you can put stuff back into rather than being saddled down with all of these destructive half ideas. That aren't really fully formed so you don't have a grasp of what's going on in your own mind and it's this very circular destructive cycle if you're not very conscious about the words that you use with yourself and with other people. |
| 07:40.38 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well let's dig into because we're talking about ancient wisdom and and modern technology and in speaking of semantics. Let's Define wisdom max. What's your definition. |
| 07:55.55 | Max Shank | Knowing yourself and acting accordingly. |
| 08:00.30 | mikebledsoe | I Like that the um, the way I think about wisdom is that you um, you, you're aware of cause and effect you're watching when I do this. This happens when when other people do this this happens. You don't wisdom doesn't necessarily have to be all based on your own mistakes of her Failures. You can watch other people's mistakes and Failures. So I think that wisdom is largely. Um. |
| 08:29.10 | Max Shank | Then. |
| 08:37.80 | mikebledsoe | Built upon taking personal responsibility for the things that are going on in your world and because if you are if you ever look out at the world and or you look at your own life and you blame somebody else for the way something is turned out in your life. You're robbing yourself of wisdom and you're robbing your ability to see how the impact of your actions thoughts all these behaviors how they have created the current situation and so somebody who is wise typically people who are wise you look at them and go wow they made a lot of mistakes earlier in their lut in there. And their life and now they they now know what? like yeah you got the old guy in the corner going hey little Johnny you may not want to do that and I was like why not and then does it anyway and then gets fucked up. You go? Oh ah so the the wisdom is. A lot of times people will associate age with wisdom but it really has to do with you know where are you paying attention and were you were you looking for? What was my role in creating any situation that's happening so when I think about wisdom I look at it like that. There's. Individual wisdom that's developed and then obviously the the collective wisdom and looking at ah yeah, and this is where like these buddhist monks that get together and they all meditate together and and they're very scientific in a way they're studying you know. |
| 09:56.62 | Max Shank | The. |
| 10:10.97 | mikebledsoe | But when we do this? What's the result we get happens in yoga as well and there the collective wisdom is when you get a lot of agreement. It's like oh we all did this 1 thing together and we all got this result and there's ah, there's ah, a collaboration and then we write it down in a book. And that gets passed down and so this is this is where I I really do enjoy reading what would be considered ancient wisdom ancient text because there's so much. Um, there is a lot of wisdom in there and it can help you avoid a lot of painful mistakes. |
| 10:48.49 | Max Shank | Yeah I think when you say wisdom to me that's knowledge because I think knowledge is knowing what to do and wisdom is doing what you know pretty much so the way I see it. There's a slight difference. But. |
| 10:49.48 | mikebledsoe | As you move forward. |
| 11:05.60 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 11:07.81 | Max Shank | I Can also perfectly understand the logic to your definition too. |
| 11:10.30 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, so so we've got wisdom. We got a couple to you know knowledge Wisdom Ah, let's define. |
| 11:20.60 | Max Shank | They all, they're answering ancient questions. Let's just put it that way a lot of questions have been asked since the beginning of human history where did we come from that's creation. What do we do while we're here. How do we balance out life and live life and then what happens after life death or destruction and basically every culture in the world has different myths or different stories. Ah, it's Funny. A myth is just ah. The the news a long time ago, right? So we asked the question hey where did we come From. How did we get here? How did everything get here. There are all these creation myths and there are a lot of similarities and differences we have How does how is balance. |
| 11:59.35 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 12:16.60 | Max Shank | Ah maintained. How should we live our lives and then what happens after we die and usually the way balance is maintained in our lives is there's a carrot or a stick upon our death that says if you lived a good life. You go to heaven if you lived a bad life. You go to? hell. And that is a very common thread in many different cultural fabrics so to speak you have the traditional heaven and hell you have ancient Egypt you have your heart weighed against a feather to see if you get to go. Ah, to the good place or suffer a second death. So a lot of these questions have been asked for many thousands of years of what to do with your life and what do you think? Mike? What should we do with our lives. |
| 13:11.10 | mikebledsoe | I think it's I think we should I think one of the pieces of wisdom that I've adopted over the years is looking at what's useful versus true and i. |
| 13:13.51 | Max Shank | According to wisdom. |
| 13:27.81 | mikebledsoe | When we talked about oh where did we come from what was the origin of the the world where what happens after you die and of course every tradition has their stories and I think what you're getting at you got the the heaven and health Piece. What is the Utility. Of believing that you're there's ah, a heaven or a hell at the end of the lifetime and that is to get people to behave a certain way and and so the utility for society to adopt a religion is to to help create order. |
| 13:55.20 | Max Shank | No doubt. |
| 14:06.71 | mikebledsoe | And ah this is where a lot of Western spirituality goes is you know? Well we're preparing for something later. Not right now and so which does create order and then if you go to the east and you look at. |
| 14:17.20 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 14:25.41 | mikebledsoe | A lot of those traditions and how they came about which um, ah, a bigger I think both have their their utility and in the east it's more of yeah, you're creating your own heaven or hell and in every moment and. Everything that's happening is a complete There's no progress so in western philosophy spirituality there's a beginning and an end and in eastern philosophy it tends to be circular like now there's no beginning and an end. It's just it's there's seasons and cycles. It's winter spring summer fall. They call that some sorrow and the ah I mean the truth is that that both exist. Yes, there is a progression of humanity over time. Ah, if you look at the universe. It's spiraling in a direction. There's an expansion happening. But it's also moving in a spiral. It's moving. There are seasons and cycles. So there are aspects of it that are predictable and then there are aspects of it that are not predictable so when I think about what's true if you talk to an eastern philosopher. They go. Well, you know it's just a season and cycle. It's not that important what's important is that you just maintain the quality of your own mind in this moment and create heaven on earth in this moment and then yeah, the the west says who gives a fuck about what's happening right? now go blow yourself up. For for allah and you'll get 72 virgins and so these these are extreme. Yeah, well, it's it's ah yeah, ah Hebrew um, yeah, well, it's it's not necessarily. |
| 16:00.82 | Max Shank | They're they're they're from the west. Um I believe Middle East not to be a stickler for geography. |
| 16:14.51 | mikebledsoe | It's east us. But when we but well when we look at. |
| 16:16.90 | Max Shank | It's all relative right? There are different cultures and they have different ideas of how you achieve some sort of Nirvana or happiness or peace or fulfillment right. |
| 16:21.40 | mikebledsoe | Or the. Yeah, well the origin of these philosophies that christianity came from which is what our culture is largely based off of based off judaism which is the same thing as based off of Islam. They're all come from. They're all considered western ah philosophy is is where it spring from so it went from. Ah, judaism hebrew to Greece and then came over whereas you had a completely different track going on in the east and that's why I talk about these 2 things. But then yeah, there's utility to both. So um, I really think about let's not get too attached to what's true or not. Because that is what happens as people get way too caught up on what's true instead of recognizing what's useful and so what I find to be useful is to say yeah, both of these things are true like we have no idea what's going to happen when we die and we. Have an opportunity to ah to create heaven on earth in this very moment. So why don't we just do both. Why don't we have a nice life while we're here in this moment and do well and help each other out and find peace in our own mind and let's also make some progress and see if we can. Make a better tomorrow than than what we have today. So I have no idea how I got to that point. What's that. |
| 17:49.21 | Max Shank | So so productivity pretty much do so Productivity is the is the way to live. It doesn't matter what is true just do what is productive and make up your own goals. |
| 17:58.99 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, well you look at I think it was up was it socrates you know, true, good and beautiful if you pursue those 3 things life is gonna be pretty good. Do what's true. Do what's good and do what's beautiful and i. |
| 18:10.32 | Max Shank | That's a great way to go. |
| 18:17.24 | mikebledsoe | When I hear true I think of being in contact with reality not necessarily like a and I when I think about the Capital T truth I Think about that. That's my simple. That's what I in my own but personal wisdom says the Capital T truth is. Simply what is is right here reality right? now anything outside of that is got a ah degree of bullshit in it. |
| 18:43.73 | Max Shank | Man we could go down that rabbit hole big time. But I'm gonna for once. Keep this ship steered in the singular direction because you you decide for yourself. What's important in life. Unless you get it from somewhere else and I think that's where intuition can come into play a lot now. Intuition is a little different than instinctual desire for pleasure because. You can go down the path of 7 deadly sins total excess that sort of deal and you may not find the joy or fulfillment that you're looking for and in fact, more likely than going to actual hell. When you die for overindulging in these 7 deadly sins. It's more likely that it's a metaphor for creating a hell or an uncomfortable experience within your own life by overindulging in certain things. So I think. Coming back to intuition is very valuable and that's how the scientific method starts anyway is with observation and intuition you you go with your intuition to determine what kind of experiment you'd like to carry out. In the first place to see how that feels for you and this is how I like to connect it with the idea of identity because people get so trapped in different identities. It's like oh I'm a red t-shirt but guy I'm a blue t-shirt guy I'm a. But. I'm a white or I'm a black or I'm a man or I'm a woman and it's very it's very limiting when you're a creative creator so you have all of this potential to create things as a creature but we limit ourselves with this identity. When in fact, we would be so much better off using our intuition and our powers of observation to see what we find intrinsically enjoyable beyond some external result. It's sort of like putting the cart before the horse. If you do something just because you absolutely love doing it. The result is going to be way better and way more fulfilling than if you do something just because of the result that you may get so I think starting with intuition. |
| 21:37.20 | Max Shank | And observation to I guess observation and then intuition to figure out what feels intrinsically good that gives you an unfair advantage about any against anyone who's gonna do the same thing as you because you're gonna love every second of it and it's not gonna feel. Difficult at all because the whole concept of easy and difficult to me is you know there are things that are difficult like doing 10 backflips off of a cliff and landing on your feet but more practically difficult just means anything you don't want to do. |
| 22:13.86 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I Think that's a that's a really. Yeah,, there's there's doing something you don't want to do or or doing something that you may want to do that gets you a poor result that's also worth worth Noting. We won't go down that we talked about the marshmallow test before ah but ah, but. |
| 22:34.70 | Max Shank | Yeah. |
| 22:38.56 | mikebledsoe | But I what I think of when you're talking about that is the the 2 modes that people may operate from when when seeking happiness and 1 is having and the other one is being and if if you're caught up in the having mode. Of being and in creating happiness. There's never enough and you're gonna run out of runway and some days there's gonna be plenty and other days there won't and ah there there will never be enough and then the being which is thing if we look at. |
| 23:02.10 | Max Shank | There's never enough. |
| 23:18.90 | mikebledsoe | A lot of the new age Community. At this point, a lot of them. You know one of the things they do well is there is this focus on how are you being and then that attracting all these other things. Um the the pitfall with that is if you are trying to change your being so that you can have. Already fucked up. It's like oh I want I'm going to use the secret I'm going to use the law of attraction to get that lamborghini. Yeah, and you'll see how enlightened I am by the size of my house and at the beach. |
| 23:45.49 | Max Shank | To win an enlightenment contest. |
| 23:53.20 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 23:56.46 | mikebledsoe | And so the ah because I'll be able to attract more whatever and so. |
| 24:00.99 | Max Shank | That goes back to our earlier thing of survival sex and status right? and status is really about sex. Anyway, we were talking about the very beginning Beyond language or even deeper than language even other animals. |
| 24:08.76 | mikebledsoe | Remind me. |
| 24:19.64 | mikebledsoe | E. |
| 24:20.13 | Max Shank | They're going for survival first and foremost then they're going for sex which is typically a factor of your status and so the way we explore status now is glittery tits and ferrari's more more or less. |
| 24:28.26 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 24:36.40 | mikebledsoe | Through. |
| 24:37.90 | Max Shank | I mean I don't want to put too fine a point on it. There are other ways to gain status some people like to gain actual power over other people like having political clout. But you know largely it has to do with a man's ability to provide. Into the future because women have gotten more and more intelligent or calculated with their discernment So now. Ah you know a mongo type of giant man who's dumb can't provide as well as a frail nerd who. Knows how to create value and wealth and security long-term. |
| 25:19.31 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, absolutely so going going back to having versus being modes. Um I think that what what you were alluding to before is if you if you don't. Have the being part nailed down, you're gonna be It's gonna be easy to convince you to do a bunch of shit. You don't actually want to do so you can have all the stuff that you think is gonna create happiness and if you're operating from that place and then we introduce. Technology these technology is yeah, it's tools and it's ways of leveraging our own minds and bodies to be able to accomplish more with less effort and so if you're adding a lot of you know if you're if you're on a ship and. All of a sudden I you know we're going the wrong way. But we're going fifty knots if we're going really fast then you know some people are so excited that you're going fast but have no idea what direction they're going in and ah. That's what happens with technology. It's like oh I've got this iphone in front of me and I've got this laptop and I've got you know a 4 our-wheel drive truck that can go anywhere you you give these things you give these ah you give these things guns. |
| 26:45.57 | Max Shank | I Feel attacked. |
| 26:55.39 | mikebledsoe | Guns are a great technology. Um Blockchain is ah is a fantastic technology that's emerged ah all of these things in the wrong hands in the in the hands of idiots will cause death destruction and and. It's it's not ah, a good look. But you put this in the hands of people who are you know who've already figured their own shit out and they can create some really cool stuff. You can live a really good life. You can you can do a lot of good for other people. And you you also get to fucking enjoy it which is very very rare I I hang out with a lot of the entrepreneurial community people that have money and are very successful and yada yada yada and I don't think there are any more. Um, a lot of them are any more happy than than someone who's working a tip old 9 to 5 making you know a quarter of the money. |
| 27:58.75 | Max Shank | I Think there's a big distinction I would like to make between you mentioned the being and the having and I think there's also the doing which is a little different than being. |
| 28:09.40 | mikebledsoe | Um. |
| 28:15.10 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 28:17.70 | Max Shank | And clearing your being so that you're as empty as space as fluid as water not to sound too. Ah fruity language over here is X I. |
| 28:31.93 | mikebledsoe | He's a fruit cake folks. |
| 28:36.77 | Max Shank | Um, definitely I have some homosexual tendencies when it comes to just I don't know I like nice things I like to use flowery language sometimes I don't know I'm a simple creature. No. |
| 28:49.15 | mikebledsoe | You you heard you heard it here first folks? um. |
| 28:55.35 | Max Shank | No one's a hundred percent straight I mean back when I was watching pornography I I liked there to be at least 1 penis in there even if there were 2 ladies so I guess I was like 33% homosexual in my preference there. |
| 29:13.21 | mikebledsoe | Welllthough this are you is ah I mean the whole it's ah it's a manmade concept. Ah the that there's a really cool mental model that everybody every everybody. |
| 29:21.80 | Max Shank | I know you think I'm sexy Mike you can just come right out and say it. |
| 29:29.46 | mikebledsoe | Why do you think I was over at your house all the time. Ah,, there's this really cool mental model that everybody uses. It's used early on in textbooks. It's hard to miss and it's the spectrum. It's There's this thing on the left and there's this the opposite of it is on the right. And ah, you can be somewhere in the middle and you go from left to right? and ah, it's It's so and interesting to watch people put things like sexual preference on this scale. |
| 30:06.48 | Max Shank | Where it's binary. |
| 30:07.57 | mikebledsoe | Of Ah, yeah, it's binary exactly and so it's It's really really interesting to watch people do that I mean I've done it I Still do I I Love the spectrum it. |
| 30:19.89 | Max Shank | Spectrums Spectrums make labeling difficult which is what our whole culture is in love with we love putting a very precise label on something and that's why we often miss the nuance. |
| 30:34.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, so I mean so you have the linear spectrum but I like to think about a more 3 dimensional spectrum which would be let's let's have a ball. Let's have a sphere and and there's a lot of things in the middle. Um. |
| 30:34.89 | Max Shank | And the context. |
| 30:44.70 | Max Shank | Right. |
| 30:50.91 | mikebledsoe | Why am I bringing that up man I'm bringing up a lot of show on the show that I'm losing track of where I was at I cut back My new tropics Max What's the problem. |
| 30:53.24 | Max Shank | Well I think it's important I think it's important to understand that the problem you're having right now in this conversation is the same problem of focusing too much. On the definition of your being. The last thing you want to do is be proud to be a man or proud to be white or proud to be a woman or proud to be a you know fairy godmother. Whatever it really is so silly and you don't want to get stuck too much. |
| 31:11.77 | mikebledsoe | You know. |
| 31:29.68 | Max Shank | In trying to define your being being should just be enjoying where you're at it shouldn't be thinking about who you are too much. It should be recognizing that you are not a fixed State. You are a dynamic changing growth. It's classic. Growth Mindset versus Fix Mindset and even though the the book flow is really a challenging read for the reader. It's got some good information in there and that is where I come in with the idea of the doing. Rather than just the being like if you spend too much time in the being it can be entertaining to wax philosophical. But if you spend too much time there you become like a prisoner in your own mind instead of enjoying the emptiness. Of your being and focusing on the intrinsic joy of doing and getting into that flow state and that's where you become like an animal traversing the terrain or a big cat hunting their prey you become focused. You become the task. Instead of being focused on yourself I can't think of a worse psychological prison than being focused on the definition of yourself so much and that's one of the biggest emphases of our very sick culture right now is what are you.? Are you a blue t-shirt guy. Are you a red t-shirt guy. Are you a lady? are you you a she are you a they are.. It's what's a worse prison than that. So I say instead of that. Go back to the intuition and the observation to figure out the doing. Where you become the task and that is something that we've known about for a long time. That's chopwood Carry water. That's um, you know the yeah Boom tying it all back. |
| 33:25.82 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, ancient. Wisdom yeah that there's um I brought up this this video I saw on Instagram yesterday I followed a lot of the teachings of a Christian and Murty are you familiar. |
| 33:42.41 | Max Shank | So one of Bruce Lee's main influences. |
| 33:46.16 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think so and he he was talking about when you when you identify with an organization a group a religion or a race or a gender when you identify with any of these things. You are isolating yourself and a lot of time he was saying you know what? if you lived a life where you did not identify with any particular group whatsoever and at the first thought of that a lot of people would respond to him with. You know? Well, you'd be I You would be checking out of Society. You would not be participating and he would say no, it's the Opposite. You're open to the the all of humanity the moment that you identify with a group. |
| 34:31.63 | Max Shank | You have a more open connection with everybody. |
| 34:43.23 | mikebledsoe | You have just cut yourself off from and and you've isolated yourself to a very ah small small portion of humanity and ah and and the truth and and you're even isolating yourselves from people in that group because you're all in agreement about. |
| 34:52.96 | Max Shank | It's horrible. |
| 35:02.46 | mikebledsoe | 1 aspect of the entire universe and can potentially miss who that person is outside of that 1 thing and so you know I get some conversations with people around. You know, ah race and gender and the victimhood and and all of these things and I get frustrated at times and they're like are you frustrated because that ah that and I got I'm frustrated because the only I'm I'm trying to help you and. You're not even willing to help yourself. You're so caught up in this argument I can't there's nothing that I can do I can't I can't hand you any amount of money I can't include you any more than you're already included in and to participate in whatever it is that we're doing until you let go of the identity. As long as you hold on to that identity. It's it's you're inflicting this on yourself all the way now if you give that up and then you're being inflicted upon then now we have violence. There's a there's a real problem with that. But when we look at society as a whole right now. What I think. What most of us are witnessing is this this heavy identification with an organization group. Whatever it is and it's ah it yeah, it's creating massive isolation and isolation creates suffering. |
| 36:30.44 | Max Shank | And it's just ah, perpetuating this us and them mentality that this this whole idea that you should define yourself by 1 variable of your being is insane. You know. White pride black pride. These are just racist ideas. They're stupid like why would you? Why would you be proud of that. It's because you're so desperate to be part of a group because you can get status within that group. It's like a kid joining a gang because they have no family right. And if you don't have anything to offer yourself as an individual. You'll think oh gosh I can get some status even if I provide no value by just saying like I'm I'm part of this crew essentially so it's a part of our deep desire for community. |
| 37:18.92 | mikebledsoe | Yeah. |
| 37:26.88 | Max Shank | And when you have someone isolated like that It is much easier to get them jump in to some ah sick fractured part of a community. Oh big time. |
| 37:36.57 | mikebledsoe | Very easy to control very easy. Can I mean you I mean it's very easy to I like using politics as ah as just ah, an example because ah, no matter what political party you're looking at there is a. Oh are you? This are you? This are you? This have you checked these boxes. Well you you would be you would you wouldn't really be that if you didn't do this that you're not with how many um how many black leaders have been called white supremacists in the last couple years. |
| 37:56.92 | Max Shank | Us and them. |
| 38:13.99 | Max Shank | That That's a pretty funny one. That's that's a pretty that is a pretty funny one I mean some of the stuff I see is so outrageous. That's one of the things where I'm like this black guy is the black face of white supremacy and I was like huh. |
| 38:14.94 | mikebledsoe | Because they didn't go with. They didn't agree with Blm um, and it the. |
| 38:29.70 | mikebledsoe | Well I remember it happened it happened 1 time it happened with the guy that was running for the governor of ah ah of ah California and well well and and I and I was like oh that's interesting. But then I watched it happen over and i. |
| 38:32.22 | Max Shank | Okay. |
| 38:36.77 | Max Shank | Oh God here we go. |
| 38:49.40 | mikebledsoe | I think I've witnessed it over a dozen times at this point it's it's kind of like the boy who cried wolf though. Yeah I. |
| 38:55.20 | Max Shank | It's rhetoric and it's effective rhetoric if you know remember if I ever run for office. All my opponents are racist pedophiles. That's all I Got to say they're bad I'm good and they're bad I help nuns cross the street I work at the orphanage I. |
| 39:04.21 | mikebledsoe | I. |
| 39:12.91 | Max Shank | Have a rainbow flag in my front yard and those guys are racist pedophiles. It's It's such a classic ah appeal to Authority ad Hominem attack which takes us right back to heaven and hell God The Devil These are not new ideas. There's a bad guy and there's a good guy. And if you can make people believe that a guy is bad. They will blindly ignore any rational thing that person might say and if you can make people believe. That one guy is good or God then they will blindly trust anything that guy says this is not new stuff and that's why it's so important to start with your gut and then you were talking about Aristotleian logic. It's really important. To have the tools to determine if something is reasonable, rational and true and it is difficult because most things the answer is not enough information and in fact, that's a ah, really valuable thing to. Notice is that when you have a true false question. There are usually 3 answers True false or not enough information to answer the question and most of the time there's not enough information to answer the question. |
| 40:42.29 | mikebledsoe | Yeah I think you said something really brilliant there and I I want to I want to zero in on just one piece of it which is the I think the the. Primary technology that needs to be mastered in order to use all other technology in a very useful way that's going to benefit yourself and others is the technology of language and you're you're talking about rhetorical fallacies and. Understanding language to a degree in which you can see when people are being manipulative with their language when I when I watch ah politics when I watch ah when I'm at the airport and I look at a Tv and I see. Advertising and commercials and I for for different goods and services and when I stumble across stuff on the internet I I get a good chuckle out of it because I can see the the Nlp the neuralistic programming I can see the manipulation. It's ah and it's interesting and and I think I have ah a very a somewhat unique perspective to be able to spot these things for a while I I thought it was insane that everyone couldn't see these things but there's there's 2 things that I've identified that I've done that that uniquely. Qualifies me and I bet there's hundreds of other people that that have done these 2 things and 1 is I used to have a top secret clearance in the Navy and I saw and I worked in communications and I saw an incredible amount of message traffic coming through ah about some. Secret shit and what I witnessed 12 hours later on the news is that all these different news agencies would be reporting on the thing where I saw the the reports we had were you know it was bullet point this happened then this happened this is how this is how we responded because. You create us. It's called a sit rep you create a situational report so that we can learn from it and make better decisions in the future. It's a life or death situation on creating these sit reps. You would not create one and then put a bunch of flowery language in it or or put anything that. Might not be true to make yourself look better. You don't do that because right? So you don't do that and then so I'm looking at at what I would trust to be very factual information. |
| 43:16.00 | Max Shank | Um, you don't hide it within 10 pages of prose. |
| 43:30.17 | mikebledsoe | Then turn around 12 hours later and I'm watching the news and I see Msnbc reporting it 1 way Fox reporting it another way Cnn reporting it another way and I just remember one day after being just. Months and months of sifting and looking and and being exposed to these 2 things happening at the same time and I go holy shit they're they're manipulating the the public at large and then I and then I I leave the navy. |
| 43:55.63 | Max Shank | Ah, the. |
| 44:01.13 | mikebledsoe | And I start studying years later I study marketing and then I get deepened up into marketing I'm studying things like and Nlp I'm studying hypnosis I'm studying how language is used to to 1 influence yourself and influence others because you're you're influencing other. Yourself with every word that comes out of your mouth and through your mind is influencing you and which and the words that come through your mind include the ones that come from outside enter your ears and then go through your mind and so there are. Combinations of words and certain words when used in a certain way are have greater weight for influence with an individual so watching seeing the objective data come through watching how it's manipulated seeing how much bullshit. Actually does exist there and then learning how it actually works ah does put me in this very interesting position and part of me wants to stay on the rooftops and be like hey this is what like can't you know that this what it is but but. |
| 44:59.82 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 45:13.75 | Max Shank | And. |
| 45:14.94 | mikebledsoe | People are fish in water who don't know that they're in water and if you in my experience I talk to certain people who are very intelligent and they are plugged into Twitter all day and they know who said what? And. What's going on in Ukraine and they understand like war policy and all this stuff and I go I'm looking like it's like all your information is bad. You don't have any good data points. So it's like if if we assume that what you. |
| 45:45.30 | Max Shank | The. |
| 45:51.80 | mikebledsoe | No is actually true then you're right? But the problem is is the premise for which you're making your argument is actually wrong and so the. |
| 46:02.90 | Max Shank | That's a big distinction is to know that you could have a valid thought process very logical and correct. But if the premise is false. The result is still false. |
| 46:14.28 | mikebledsoe | And this is this is a conversation that I I have some friends that are you know buried pretty deep and in these in some narratives and anytime I bring this type of stuff up. There's a. You can see the emotional reaction and the and the immediate rejection of of a of a statement I'm like you know what there's and my girlfriend I Go Why don't you like tell them about this or this or this I'm like they're not they they stop hearing me as soon as they. You saw that physical reaction. They didn't hear anything after that. Yeah I immediately got categorized as some crazy asshole. Ah yeah. |
| 46:53.88 | Max Shank | You're on, you're on the other team is the thing right? You're the devil. You're the devil. You're on the other. No seriously, you're on the other team and everything you say will be ignored or misrepresented or just. Blindly mistrusted. It's better to not have any opinions that are too strong. Actually there was a really good conversation. Um Gavin Debecker who wrote a gift of fear he was on Joe Rogan's podcast the other day and. Joe Rogan changed his mind about something in real time and it was really nice to see because Gavin Debecker is a good communicator and he's patient. Guy. You could tell in the conversation. It was worth. It was worth a listen I really enjoyed it and they were talking. |
| 47:33.92 | mikebledsoe | A. |
| 47:42.56 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go look that up right now? What? um. |
| 47:49.41 | Max Shank | Were talking about ah model mugging I think it was called and Gavin Debecker was saying it's awesome and it's ah you know a 6 hour course 1 hour a week for six weeks and Joe Rogan um at one point was like oh I totally disagree. You got to learn martial arts for a long time. In order to make any of those ah make any progress because otherwise you'll have this false sense of confidence and you know as a martial arts teacher in this and that and he was like that and Gavin De Becker said wow you have ah a really strong opinion about this and Rogan was like yeah I do and he's like well. Let me tell you something that you don't know and he talked about the 23000 people who had gone through the program and had had better results in violent encounters and explained more about the program was and. Hundred percent credit to Rogan because I've seen him do this a few times and it's one of the more admirable traits in a human being is he goes gosh I really didn't understand it was like that and that that makes a lot of sense and he completely changed his mind within minutes and it's so rare to see something like that. And it's really encouraging any time I do and you're much better off not having such strong opinions really about anything because those are those are the hardest holes to dig yourself out of because you dug those holes yourself. By having too strong of an opinion the ability to change your mind is the sign of an agile and flexible mind and we've talked many times how adaptability is the chief survival characteristic. So if you get caught in these fixed mindsets and opinions that. Really aren't based on true premises and valid thought processes. It's like an extra prison that you have attached onto your being and if you think of one of the ways to greater mental and physical peace. As relieving yourself of the psychological burdens of the ego and breaking the back of the ego so that you can dance and you know drum to the rhythm of the universe not to raja style then it makes sense that you would not want to engage. In having such strong opinions because they are really more burdens and they're not very practical most of the time either. It's not like you get anything out of it and we can tie it back to the way that we use technology people are so desperate to. |
| 50:36.50 | Max Shank | To wave their own little flag and just say hey everyone I'm smart I know what's going on. Hey hey everyone I'm smart I know what's going on, please please like me give me some sort of positive feedback positive attention and that's what I see um happen a lot is it's. Fishing for compliments from the people who are already your side and alienating the people on the other side even more so it makes no sense to me what you're doing that for except to make yourself feel better. You might as you would be much more honest to just say. Hey hey everyone could you give me a few compliments I'm I'm looking for some validation Today. Can you tell me I'm smart and good but people don't want to do that because it sounds ridiculous, but they're perfectly willing to par it out the narrative of their team. Without having done any kind of searching for whether this is true or valid. So you're safer to just not have too strong of an opinion about things. It's very burdensome. |
| 51:47.13 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, if your if your ego can withstand it. There's are you familiar with ah Byron Katie okay yeah she's um, she came up with something called the work and she. |
| 51:56.20 | Max Shank | That name sounds familiar. |
| 52:04.68 | mikebledsoe | She also wrote I think one of her books I've got it somewhere around here. It's called ah, 1000 names for joy and ah she her background is very very interesting and that she's not a psychologist. She didn't study spirituality. Anything like that and yet she became one of the most profound ah speakers and you know like you quote unquote therapists that ever lived and if you really want to be impressed with her. She does something called. |
| 52:31.46 | Max Shank | And. |
| 52:39.47 | mikebledsoe | Ah, the work and the turnaround and she has a 4 step process that she takes people through you can just Youtube Byron Katie the work and you'll be able to witness it and the the idea of the work is the premise of it is that. People are creating suffering in their own life. Oh I want to talk about this first. The way she got to where she is now is she lost her fucking mind she lost her. Ah she went through down this really negative. Rabbit hole ended up like walking through the desert and she was gone. |
| 53:14.14 | Max Shank | Well, how did we get here? How did we get here. Didn't We do roughly the same thing I mean you and I lost our minds at least once E trent. |
| 53:15.75 | mikebledsoe | Back in the 80 s huh what do you mean. Oh for sure for sure. Um, but I don't think we were suicidal I only I wasn't suicidal when I when I lost it was one of sick. |
| 53:31.65 | Max Shank | We weren't so far gone maybe does suicidal mean you're like really going to do it or you just thinking about what it would be like because who doesn't think about who doesn't think about what it would be like. |
| 53:41.36 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, there's suicidal ideation. Yeah well of course there's suicidal ideation and then there's suicid all um. |
| 53:53.60 | Max Shank | I mean I have it all planned out like you you want to do it. You want to but I'm a perfectionist that that's why I haven't done it. |
| 53:57.87 | mikebledsoe | I Just want to I just go skydiving and not not pull the cord man just go skydiving I don't pull the cord. That's that's my mask you know if I'm ever gonna go. It's probably I'll do it. |
| 54:08.62 | Max Shank | The problem is I'm a perfectionist I'm still planning out the perfect suicide which is the only thing that's saving me. |
| 54:11.96 | mikebledsoe | Ah, ah. So ah, anyways, she she basically had ah a major mental breakdown and ah, you know there's something. Ah, there's a few people out there. Jeed Mckenna is another person who basically went through a mental breakdown took about 2 years to get through it. |
| 54:35.61 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 54:37.12 | mikebledsoe | Which is what what they have in common is they stop believing their thoughts and they got down to they were able to stabilize the perspective of truth which is just a constant presence with reality without the. |
| 54:42.32 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 54:54.33 | mikebledsoe | Ah, without stories narratives things like that getting a fixed and attached to so she has a 4 step process for any narrative you might have to pry your identity from it and so ah, the the. |
| 54:57.89 | Max Shank | M. |
| 55:06.54 | Max Shank | Ah. |
| 55:12.99 | mikebledsoe | The key issue is that people believe their thoughts and when you believe your thought to be true. You then identify for it with it. It becomes part of who you are and if you try to wrestle the belief out of somebody's ego. The ego is gonna fight back and say no, no, no Motherfucker. If I Let go of this then I'm gonna die going back to being accepted by the tribe because yeah, and so and so I need to be accepted by the tribe if I let this go. It's a very deep. Ah you know. |
| 55:35.61 | Max Shank | Right permanence. |
| 55:50.26 | mikebledsoe | Deep thing in your psyche. It's not something where you just hear me talk about it and go Okay I'm good with it I've been I've been hip to this conversation for a decade and I'm still you know wrestling with constantly questioning is this a belief or is this what I'm noticing or you know like there's a constant. Ah. |
| 55:54.28 | Max Shank | Are. |
| 56:09.99 | mikebledsoe | Questioning going on which I think is very very healthy if. You're not doing that if you haven't stabilized reality which I think almost you know, probably a handful of people alive on the planet have actually achieved that the rest of us are walking around with some type of narrative. Some people are so bought into it. They don't. Don't even know their beliefs might not be true and then to to be operating from a place where you're actually questioning your beliefs as and being based in something that's not reality is ah is ah I think a really healthy place to be and and that means that the ego has to you have to have a relationship to the ego. That is ah that is not so attached you know and if anyone is if anyone really wants to get to the core of beliefs and language and all that I think Byron Katie is likely the best. Practical resource There's some other really cool resources out there if you're really into the conceptual shit but she has got one of those practical tools I've seen out there. |
| 57:17.61 | Max Shank | So it all comes back to trying to ease suffering basically right because suffering is resistance and the opposite of resistance is acceptance so you accept the death of the ego which. |
| 57:24.56 | mikebledsoe | Now. |
| 57:37.10 | Max Shank | The reason people fear death of their body is because the story ends I I like to phrase it that way at least makes sense to me I would be willing to hear any argument to the contrary because I like a good argument, especially a civil. |
| 57:41.61 | mikebledsoe | That's right. |
| 57:52.11 | mikebledsoe | Um, I'm afraid of the horns and the pitchfork fellow. Yeah. |
| 57:55.76 | Max Shank | Argument. We're afraid of the devil that makes sense. Ah he seems pretty sinister. Guy seems like he would enjoy torturing you for a really long time. But anyway so jokes on him I dig it. |
| 58:05.78 | mikebledsoe | I Might like it though start jokes on him. Um. |
| 58:14.70 | Max Shank | Give it to me Diablo Man. Ah so we're talking about how to ease suffering pretty much and allow us to live with more peace more prosperity more productivity and. More productivity That's where technology comes into play and a tool is just a tool. It is in fact, ah more about how you use it So a scalpel in the hands of a child is very dangerous but a scalpel in the hands of a surgeon can. Save your life so understanding what you're trying to do with the tools you have available and is it more mindfulness is it more intentioned is it more deliberate. These are all Synonyms. Of course. But look computers are such crazy leverage machines but most of the time we're just floating stuff out there um to get validation which is an external trap rather than an intrinsic joy of doing and being. So recognizing what tools are most important in your life is a good place to start kind of embracing a minimalist attitude toward the tools that you possess and. Not necessarily does it Spark joy. But what is the real use of this can I get along without it and the same way. A computer can totally trap you on the internet if you don't have wisdom and you have a computer with internet Connection. You are fucked. Your your soul will be gone if you're going on Pure instinct and you have a computer with internet Connection. You're Gone. You need to have some wisdom to control these very powerful tools. It's the same with the refrigerator. Wow. What an amazing Concept. A refrigerator can store all this food. But if I have unregulated gluttony instead of wisdom which you know there are ancient proverbs that say eat until you're 80% full. It's It's the simplest thing. But that's why knowledge is easy but wisdom is really the practice of Knowledge. It's knowledge applied to your specific Situation. So I think having ah an appreciation for technology is maybe a good first step. |
| 01:01:00.26 | Max Shank | And recognizing how fortunate we are to have access to the goods that we have access to and to put yourself in a scenario where you don't have access to these tools and what life is like and then reintroduce them back. Into your existence. You'll have a greater appreciation for them and they'll you'll use them a lot more deliberately I think. |
| 01:01:28.48 | mikebledsoe | Well sir that that feels like an end of show synnosis. Yeah yeah, yeah, same. |
| 01:01:34.19 | Max Shank | Boom I Love it. Yeah so I think the I think the modern technology is way Easier. We don't need to talk about it too much and I think the the ancient wisdom has a lot of facets to it. It. It does primarily center around questions people have been asking for a long time and how do you find peace in your being joy in your doing and gratitude in your having. |
| 01:02:07.60 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, beautiful, well said? Yeah I think about um, a really good example is you know how do you for those who use Instagram how do you use it are you are you a pure consumer that's just scrolling through that's. Being used by technology or are you are you using technology are you are you creating with it and not only are you creating but are you creating something that that brings you joy and brings other people joy and so I think about technology is simply an amplifier of it's going to amplify what is if. If if your life is full of destruction. You're gonna be able to amplify that destruction if your life is full of creative creative energy. You're gonna be able to create unlike you were be able to you were able to create before so be aware of that and the number 1 technology. That we all have access to is language. So what? what was that noise. |
| 01:03:13.23 | Max Shank | Dude I was gonna say the same thing I'm I'm right there with you. There's no, there's no more valuable technology than language. That's why you and I harp on it so much is because it is ah other than getting comfortable sitting quietly and just. |
| 01:03:14.52 | mikebledsoe | I. |
| 01:03:30.40 | Max Shank | Doing things in silence it. It is the the key to unlocking and relieving yourself of these burdens. |
| 01:03:34.78 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, if you can master that you can be the creator of your world and if you don't master that you will be the slave to other people who have mastered language. So ah, ah. |
| 01:03:48.44 | Max Shank | Pooh. We. |
| 01:03:52.78 | Max Shank | Ah, it reminds me. It reminds me of this thing I was reading about ancient Egypt where the the priest or the leader had ah a temple that no one else could go into and they would bring him gold and food and women and shit like that. |
| 01:03:57.39 | mikebledsoe | Ah. |
| 01:04:11.82 | Max Shank | And he told them that every night he had to negotiate Mott M a at which is balance with the equal and opposite world on the other side but of course no one could ah confirm this but I was just thinking what a powerful. Language swindle that is to say hey listen every single day I'm going to negotiate with essentially the other world or the underworld to make sure there's balance in all of our lives as long as you bring me all your gold and food and all this Stuff. While I go into that private room and handle this negotiation. It's it's crazy that you can get people to do things just by making noises with your mouth speaking of marketing and sales I mean it's Crazy. It's Crazy. It's Crazy. It's not Fair. It's not Fair. It's basically cheating because your relation with your relationship with yourself basically language related in a lot of cases understanding the definition of things your relationships with other people largely language related and then your relationship with your customers. You are setting the tone. |
| 01:05:10.67 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, go. |
| 01:05:24.51 | Max Shank | With every word you say it's It's not Fair. It's not fair that it's such an unfair advantage that if you can speak and communicate in a way that is both clear and inspiring. You can exponentially. Amplify. Whatever it is. You're slinging if you're slinging carpet cleaning or fitness products like myself. It is fully an unfair advantage and I can speak from experience. |
| 01:05:45.14 | mikebledsoe | Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:05:55.80 | mikebledsoe | Absolutely and an overlooked thing around language I think most people when they hear using language especially in the way we've been talking about it is in regard to marketing or Pr Politics Media they're thinking about the outside language. Well there's also the internal dialogue you're having with yourself mastering that will help you master yourself and then the next layer inside of that is the the thoughts that are made up of words that are operating in your subconscious. And I I believe that everybody has witnessed this whether they recognize it or not they witness something that's been living in the subconscious pop up into the conscious realm of their mind and they go where whered that thought come from that was fucking weird that thought's been in there. For a long time more than likely and ah, you're just now you just now have awareness of it and it's likely been causing your your personality. It's been causing behavior for you and you didn't even know it. So I think it's safe to say if you. This is one of those useful beliefs that I have which is 95% and I I say 95% to get people a little more credit but I think it's probably closer to 98 or 99% of what's operating in your mind is subconscious, unconscious and ah. We we give ourselves a lot more credit for thinking that we're we're doing things on purpose when most of what we're doing is is an autopilot function and ah for me it. It's really cool to do conscious programming where I am. |
| 01:07:37.10 | Max Shank | The. |
| 01:07:48.44 | mikebledsoe | Intentionally bringing thoughts into my mind that are going to move me where I want to go but I find even more power and subconscious programming if you learn how to hypnotize yourself and embed codes that you want to operate without any conscious effort. Throughout the day. There's ways to do that as well and maybe I should put together a course or something I told somebody recently at a mastermind that they go well what thing could you bring to the group that would benefit them well I could teach you how to hypnotize yourself. Everybody's heads turn. Never heard of that before I've heard of hypnotizing other people. Yeah, you can hypnotize yourself but you know what show is wrapping up so I to save that little trick for later later it. It's really simple so hit hit me up on Instagram if you want to know about it oll ah send you a free Pdf or something. Have to make it up. |
| 01:08:44.62 | Max Shank | Cool modern technology. |
| 01:08:49.89 | mikebledsoe | All right max it out where where are people finding you these days. |
| 01:08:56.77 | Max Shank | Well I'm currently at the top of a very tall mountain studying with a monk who is 500 years old to figure out the meaning of life and he says in another couple hundred years. We just might figure it out. |
| 01:09:11.80 | mikebledsoe | Nice, nice looking forward to hearing the answer to that I'm gonna be using all the new biotech that's available to live to for another 200 years so I think we're gonna be good to go. Ah, you can find me on Instagram at Mike Underscore blood so and yeah check out the blood so show for more content interviews go to http://matchschk.com. He's not gonna toot his own horn today for whatever reason so go to http://maschank.com and check out. Courses on how to do cool stuff with your body and I'll see you next time Levy Max |
| 01:09:50.67 | Max Shank | Love you buddy! Thank you. |
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